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milomorris:
--- Quote from: serious crayons on March 03, 2018, 12:52:24 pm ---Far be it from me to say anything good about Donald Trump, but has he been homophobic? I've heard of him insulting just about every other marginalized group, and in doing so I'm sure he encourages and gives permission to bigots of every variety, including homophobes. I just can't recall hearing Trump himself say anything negative about gay people per se.
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Whether President Trump has insulted or encouraged any groups of people is a matter of perception. I am not aware of any comments he has made that brought accusations of homophobia. I do know that there have been some policy moves that the gay mainstream doesn't like, and claim are driven by homophobia. I also know that many mainstream gays have complained about things that Pence has done in the past, as well as statements made by Trump appointees in Washington.
So the identitarians seem to have some nail to hammer in his coffin for every group out there, including sexual minorities.
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: serious crayons on March 03, 2018, 12:52:24 pm ---Far be it from me to say anything good about Donald Trump, but has he been homophobic? I've heard of him insulting just about every other marginalized group, and in doing so I'm sure he encourages and gives permission to bigots of every variety, including homophobes. I just can't recall hearing Trump himself say anything negative about gay people per se.
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Taking the question strictly as to whether or not he has said anything, I can't remember. I do know he's tried to turn back the clock and kick sexual minorities out of the military. I think he issued an order (probably to appeal/satisfy his Christian right base), but I think a court blocked it.
Regardless whether or not he's said anything, that's close enough for me.
milomorris:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on March 03, 2018, 02:38:09 pm ---Taking the question strictly as to whether or not he has said anything, I can't remember. I do know he's tried to turn back the clock and kick sexual minorities out of the military. I think he issued an order (probably to appeal/satisfy his Christian right base), but I think a court blocked it.
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That was specifically transgenders. And nobody would have been kicked out, they were trying to find a way to keep more from joining. The idea has since died because there were more military leaders opposed to it than in favor of it.
CellarDweller:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on March 03, 2018, 11:34:57 am ---This doesn't really have anything to do with the topic of this thread, but I'll tell you what. This morning I saw a mention of RuPaul somewhere else, and I remembered that RuPaul married (legally) a Wyoming rancher. I remembered FRiend Lee's comment here, and it made me wonder: What do the neighbors of RuPaul's husband think of that? Did they know before that their neighbor was partnered up with RuPaul? What do they think of RuPaul? Do they get a "pass" (from rural homophobia) because RuPaul is a celebrity?
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I'd be curious to know the answers. :)
CellarDweller:
Not to draw the thread off topic any further, I can't recall any quotes from Trump regarding gay people.
He has thrown Michael Pence under the bus on this, if you believe "anonymous sources"
The story, citing two anonymous sources, said Trump enjoys needling the conservative former Indiana governor about his views on abortion and homosexuality and, when a conversation with an unnamed legal scholar turned to gay rights, the president motioned to Pence and allegedly joked, "Don't ask that guy — he wants to hang them all!"
Pence has never said he wants to hang all gays, but his voting record towards LGBT people is pretty well known as anti-gay.
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