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Our BetterMost Community => The Polling Place => Topic started by: mvansand76 on August 29, 2006, 04:27:30 am
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So we all know that Jake and Heath have great chemistry, but what do you think is the best example of their chemistry in the movie.... apart from the love scenes? :D
You can also mention another one that is not in the poll of course... :)
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"You'll run them sheep off again if you don't quiet down"
I think I might have chose this because I just can't get over that smile Ennis flashes to Jack when he says it.
But then, that smile might just be the epitome of their relationship.
Hey, my choice made sense after all! :)
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"You'll run them sheep off again if you don't quiet down"
I think I might have chose this because I just can't get over that smile Ennis flashes to Jack when he says it.
But then, that smile might just be the epitome of their relationship.
Hey, my choice made sense after all! :)
I chose the same one! Yeeeeeh! ;)
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Me three! Both of them relaxed and enjoying each other. Yes-that little smile of Ennis's.
O0
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I chose, "anything interesting happening up there in heaven", because they were so relaxed and happy, and didnt need words to express how they were feeling.....
The motel scene, when Ennis laid back in Jacks arms, and Jack talked about red lining it all the way, shows great chemistry too......and of course the reunion kiss.....now words were needed then, just pure chemistry........
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My two favorite parts were not listed! :(
Jack (inside the tent): ENNIS!
Ennis (freezing outside the tent): WHUT?
and
After nosebleed
Jack: C'mere. You're alright, you're alright.
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My two favorite parts were not listed! :(
Jack (inside the tent): ENNIS!
Enis (freezing outside the tent): WHUT?
and
After nosebleed
Jack: C'mere. You're alright, you're alright.
Oh yes, you are soooo right, especially that first one, there is something about that that is not easy to grasp....
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My two favorite parts were not listed! :(
Jack (inside the tent): ENNIS!
Enis (freezing outside the tent): WHUT?
and
After nosebleed
Jack: C'mere. You're alright, you're alright.
Isn't it amazing how simple and informal words such as these can be so powerful?
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i voted for "You'll run them sheep off again if you don't quiet down." Ennis's smile is just wonderful, so at ease with himself and his life with Jack.
but there's also great chemistry in the "tent don't look right" scene. So endearing.
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It's ALL good.
And as I said to someone just last night, I could watch them clutching at each other's beautiful faces all day. And have been known to (off and on) in times past. It's all in the hands and in the eyes, but mostly in the eyes.
This thought occurred to me last night thinking about this very subject (go figure): When actors like each other for real, it shows. When they don't, that shows, too. I don't care how good you are - if you can't stand that person opposite you, you cannot hold a gaze with him or her for any length of time. Not in a sympathetic way, anyway.
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It's ALL good.
And as I said to someone just last night, I could watch them clutching at each other's beautiful faces all day. And have been known to (off and on) in times past. It's all in the hands and in the eyes, but mostly in the eyes.
This thought occurred to me last night thinking about this very subject (go figure): When actors like each other for real, it shows. When they don't, that shows, too. I don't care how good you are - if you can't stand that person opposite you, you cannot hold a gaze with him or her for any length of time. Not in a sympathetic way, anyway.
I agree, I think it really helped for them that they became friends.
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Isn't it amazing how simple and informal words such as these can be so powerful?
And some of the most powerful chemistry occurs in the parts with no words at all! :-*
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Chemistry off-screen too...damn, love this pic! ;)
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i285/Lucise/Jake/A_C/d124377d.jpg)
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I couldn't choose at all. They both look so good and happy together in this movie--like buddies who're so into each other. I do like "You'll run them sheep of again if you don't quiet down."
I love that off-screen picture too, Lucise. They look so comfortable and happy together don't they?
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Chemistry off-screen too...damn, love this pic! ;)
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i285/Lucise/Jake/A_C/d124377d.jpg)
great picture Lucise
although Heath needs to tuck his shirt back in ::)
and then who know what might happen? :o
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Of course Heaths hand is on Jacks ass! Jack is smiling and saying : Be careful buddy, michelle said no threesomes remember?"
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It's ALL good.
And as I said to someone just last night, I could watch them clutching at each other's beautiful faces all day. And have been known to (off and on) in times past. It's all in the hands and in the eyes, but mostly in the eyes.
This thought occurred to me last night thinking about this very subject (go figure): When actors like each other for real, it shows. When they don't, that shows, too. I don't care how good you are - if you can't stand that person opposite you, you cannot hold a gaze with him or her for any length of time. Not in a sympathetic way, anyway.
And lets face it......after a kiss like the reunion kiss......that would be something that will live in their memory forever, and bond them forever.......
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chose "more words than the past 2 weeks" cause Ennis is now able to open up and Jack realize that. can't get enough with Jack's look waiting for Ennis to finish his whole paragraph.
LOVE THEM LOVE THEM
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Heath and Jake definitely have amazing chemistry. I think this is one of the things that makes the movie work so well. I also sort of wonder if even they were/ are surprised by how much natural chemistry they seem to have with one another.
I think all the examples in the poll are good ones. I voted for the "most I've spoke" scene, because it's so subtle and there's soooooo much going on between the two of them that can only be comprehended through "vibes," "looks," and sort of undefinable things (i.e. chemistry).
But, I think hands down the best example is the reunion kiss. One of the best and most palpable screen kisses every.
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I haven't seen this before, great question!
For me it was a hard choice between "you'll run the sheep of again...."
I think Heath/Ennis's smile at that moment was so sweet and full of real true affection or real love, and
"Anything interesting up there in heaven..."
Which was the one I decided to go with because it was a rare moment of such true peace and feeling between them.
I don't think any other single moment was so pure and relaxed, except for the Dozy Embrace, probably my most favorite moment, but so much sadder in a way.
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Heath and Jake definitely have amazing chemistry. I think this is one of the things that makes the movie work so well. I also sort of wonder if even they were/ are surprised by how much natural chemistry they seem to have with one another.
I think all the examples in the poll are good ones. I voted for the "most I've spoke" scene, because it's so subtle and there's soooooo much going on between the two of them that can only be comprehended through "vibes," "looks," and sort of undefinable things (i.e. chemistry).
But, I think hands down the best example is the reunion kiss. One of the best and most palpable screen kisses every.
Totally agree. And the reunion kiss *still* gives me the sensation. After all this time (and all these viewings). It's the hands. And the nuzzling. And the ferocity with which Ennis knocks Jack's hat off. Meowwwwr.
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I don't think any other single moment was so pure and relaxed, except for the Dozy Embrace, probably my most favorite moment, but so much sadder in a way.
Mmmmmm. My second-favorite scene in the film. And second only because it is so sad.
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Totally agree. And the reunion kiss *still* gives me the sensation. After all this time (and all these viewings). It's the hands. And the nuzzling. And the ferocity with which Ennis knocks Jack's hat off. Meowwwwr.
Ennis knocking Jack's hat off
*faints*
*crawls back up*
The hands on each other's faces
*faints*
*crawls back up*
The kisses
*faints*
*crawls back up*
The nuzzling indeed...
*faints*
*crawls back up*
Meowwwwr indeed!!!!!
What is it about this scene?
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Ennis knocking Jack's hat off
*faints*
*crawls back up*
The hands on each other's faces
*faints*
*crawls back up*
The kisses
*faints*
*crawls back up*
The nuzzling indeed...
*faints*
*crawls back up*
Meowwwwr indeed!!!!!
What is it about this scene?
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It sounds like you spend more time fainting than watching the movie, Melissa! ;) :D
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"Friend, that's more words then you've spoke in the past 2 weeks."
That's when they bonded, that's when Jack fell in love, right in that instant.
It MELTS me.
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"Friend, that's more words then you've spoke in the past 2 weeks."
That's when they bonded, that's when Jack fell in love, right in that instant.
It MELTS me.
Oh I def agree that he fell in love then...just look at his face.... *melts too*
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
It sounds like you spend more time fainting than watching the movie, Melissa! ;) :D
Could be... could be.... ;D
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Hard to pick a favourite (I love 'em all), but if pressed, I am particularly fond of the scene where they're both smashed and Jack sings Water Walkin' Jesus (so badly, it makes distant coyotes yip). Because Ennis loves Jack so much and doesn't want to hurt his feelings, he applauds his efforts(by tapping his stick) and tells him his singing is "Very good." I love that scene. Sigh.
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I've read all previous posts and with everyone I think: that's it, that is THE scene. Then I read the next suggestion and think the same ::) :laugh:
They're all so good and they make me melt *sigh*
I guess I'll vote for "you'll run them sheep off again". That smile.... *sighs again*
And what about when Ennis introduces Jack to Alma? He looks as if to say "Ain't he a catch?"
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Just bumping because this was a nice topic. Especially in light of recent tragic events. :'(
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Just bumping because this was a nice topic. Especially in light of recent tragic events. :'(
{{{{Amanda}}}}
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{{Mel}}
Actually, looking at the options in this poll, I think I would change my earlier response. Now, I think I'd pick "Damn. Four years." After watching BBM recently, following Heath's death, the intimacy of the motel scene strikes me as more powerful than I think I'd perceived it in the past. My original answer was "Friend, that's more words than you've spoke in the past two weeks" (which of course I still think is a great illustration of chemistry).
It's very interesting to me to see how our reactions and interpretations keep evolving over these last two years.
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My best scene is not in the poll; it's when they're speaking about their respective "loving life".Jack tells Ennis he has an affair and jokes about the possibility Lureen or "the husband" shoot him if they discover.The look Ennis gives him while he says "you'd deserve it",speaks volumes about his feelings.Specially for a man of too few words and no "I love yous".
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Heaven...
and much more...
with such enduring hugs too!!
Hugs to all too and to our brave amiable actors and actresses!!
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They had so much chemistry I have no idea where to even BEGIN!
I liked their first discussion in the bar: Ennis discussing his family, Jack's obvious empathy, and obvious awkwardness.
Water Walkin Jesus: if that isn't chemistry, nothing is!
The scene where Ennis never shuts up, where he says more then he had in two weeks.
The scene where Jack yells, 'You're late' as he puts corn into the pot....
The scene where ...hell, why go on?? there is chemistry everywhere in the film!
They had it between themselves as ACTORS, and also as MEN . That lovely story about Jake on the set of Zodiac has always moved me a great deal. Some of the techies were showing each other photos of 'their sweethearts'. Jake joined in and asked, 'Do you guys want to see a picture of MY sweetheart???'
They said of course, sure, let's see....
He showed them a picture of himself and Heath Ledger.
That's chemistry. That's friendship.
It is everywhere in the film, and it was between them in real life.
You can't fake this; no matter how good an actor you are, chemistry either exists or it doesn't.
And it makes the last few weeks even harder.....
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They had so much chemistry I have no idea where to even BEGIN!
I liked their first discussion in the bar: Ennis discussing his family, Jack's obvious empathy, and obvious awkwardness.
Water Walkin Jesus: if that isn't chemistry, nothing is!
The scene where Ennis never shuts up, where he says more then he had in two weeks.
The scene where Jack yells, 'You're late' as he puts corn into the pot....
The scene where ...hell, why go on?? there is chemistry everywhere in the film!
They had it between themselves as ACTORS, and also as MEN . That lovely story about Jake on the set of Zodiac has always moved me a great deal. Some of the techies were showing each other photos of 'their sweethearts'. Jake joined in and asked, 'Do you guys want to see a picture of MY sweetheart???'
They said of course, sure, let's see....
He showed them a picture of himself and Heath Ledger.
That's chemistry. That's friendship.
It is everywhere in the film, and it was between them in real life.
You can't fake this; no matter how good an actor you are, chemistry either exists or it doesn't.
And it makes the last few weeks even harder.....
You're right in everything you say,Brokebackjack,and mainly in this:You can't fake this; no matter how good an actor you are, chemistry either exists or it doesn't.And their chemistry as an actors were undeniable,but even more as a persons. I really think there was something very special between them that surpassed the screen and their good acting on it;a friend told me that he had read a reporting in which they speak about their relationship,saying that when they're between family or commun friends,even before Michelle herself,they didn't stop to show mutual affection,with caresses,hugs,continuous jokes...And that they did it without being concerned about what could think the others;but,obviously,between close people,in order not to giving reasons to paparazzi and vultures in general... :) That when they went to a Jake's parents property,they used to go alone for excursion,walking during hours in the forest or taking a bath in the river-more Brokeback,impossible...-And that when Heath and Michelle decided to split,one of the first persons who knew it was Jake,who tried to convince them not to do it.
With all this,I'm not speaking for a morbid sensation or for gossip-if you know me personally,you'd know I'm not the gossip kind at all...-; and neither I'm suggesting that there was sex between them,no way.But there surely was a strong love relationship,let's say brotherly love or a loved based in an emotional attraction,but there was love...Could there be anything more tender,sweeter and nicer?I see them as two "little" Ennis and Jack,in their mountain when they were to the forest or in their private Brokeback every time they saw each other,even among a lot of other persons.I feel now a great regret for this beautiful truncated friendship,a bond that only death has broken.Life can be very cruel sometimes.
P.S.=I hope all this has made sense,since English is really my fourth language and I have some difficulties in explaining myself.Sometimes I don't understand what you're saying and sometimes I don't understand what I'm writing myself... ??? But,please,if it can offend somebody,edit it.
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myprivatejack...I wish I could use English as well as you do! Your fourth language?? Hell , all i speak is a little English, and it's my NATIVE language lol. All the languages i studied>>> Italian and French, have been forgotten. Yes, if we spent time in Quebec or Metropole it would come back, but...all I speak is a little English!
A year was spent in Turkey. After a very short time I could UNDERSTAND what people were saying very well, yet only speak a bit of it. That's odd, isn't it? After barely 6 weeks I'd listen to Turkish sitcoms, listen to my friends speak and know exactly what they said, but speak it myself? Nope.
I admire your ability. Someday before I die I want to learn how to speak Latin [ but speak with WHOM lol, the Vatican?? lol], and RE-learn my French....
Meanwhile thank you.
There are a lot of people who want to hear Jake mourn in public for his friend.
Well, why should he? It was private. The public has no rights to Jake Gyllenhaal's emotions at all: he owes us nothing but a good performance when we pay for a ticket. Period.
He obviously takes his role of Godfather to Matilda very seriously, very seriously indeed. I can see him quietly, privately, doing what Heath would have done if he had not died, can see him doing everything possible to fill the void. You know, I met Jake's father and liked Stephen enormously. Jake is a lot like his father, I've no doubt at all as to his decency or anything else. Hopefully, the press will leave him alone, leave him in peace to do what he promised to do for that child...
Hopefully, they will just let them be...
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myprivatejack...I wish I could use English as well as you do! Your fourth language?? Hell , all i speak is a little English, and it's my NATIVE language lol. All the languages i studied>>> Italian and French, have been forgotten. Yes, if we spent time in Quebec or Metropole it would come back, but...all I speak is a little English!
A year was spent in Turkey. After a very short time I could UNDERSTAND what people were saying very well, yet only speak a bit of it. That's odd, isn't it? After barely 6 weeks I'd listen to Turkish sitcoms, listen to my friends speak and know exactly what they said, but speak it myself? Nope.
I admire your ability. Someday before I die I want to learn how to speak Latin [ but speak with WHOM lol, the Vatican?? lol], and RE-learn my French....
Meanwhile thank you.
There are a lot of people who want to hear Jake mourn in public for his friend.
Well, why should he? It was private. The public has no rights to Jake Gyllenhaal's emotions at all: he owes us nothing but a good performance when we pay for a ticket. Period.
He obviously takes his role of Godfather to Matilda very seriously, very seriously indeed. I can see him quietly, privately, doing what Heath would have done if he had not died, can see him doing everything possible to fill the void. You know, I met Jake's father and liked Stephen enormously. Jake is a lot like his father, I've no doubt at all as to his decency or anything else. Hopefully, the press will leave him alone, leave him in peace to do what he promised to do for that child...
Hopefully, they will just let them be...
Thank you very much,Brokebackjack,for your kind words to my ability¡OMG¡ You know,dictionaries make miracles and you bet I must consult them...And I make a lot of grammar mistakes and I don't understand several phrases,moreover... :-\ But I like languages,indeed.I guess you're good at them,but you only need for a little practise.Why don't you learn Spanish,huh? ;D
Coming back to Jake's grief,I think He's in a very difficult place now,not only for having lost a friend.But because if he shows too much grief in public,it could produce some gossips about his feelings and their relationship; and he doesn't show it in the quantity they expect him to feel,someone can say he's not a good friend or even a good person...Solution: let him be alone with his grief and let speculations for these ones who live from gossips-for job or for way of being-It´s sad to see how dirt human mind can be; many of the people who think it was love what they shared,you can be sure aren't saying with the same "innocence" than me."Innocence" or let's say,"Live and let live". :)