oops - wrong place - I'm rewriting this in Open Forum (where I thought I was - will be deleting this thread in a few minutes)
wellllll...I always thought that Junior knew that Ennis was gay. So to me it was always an unfinished sentence...I can almost hear the ending..."You are good enough but my father is gay...so no matter how good you are, he is looking for what you can not give him"
Sorry Jess, maybe I didn't ask the right question. Cassie seems to understand what Junior says: ("You get your point accross") If the "point" is that her daddy's gay, then what "point" is Casie confirming to have have undertood? - Don't think that "my daddy is gay" is the message that Cassie caught...No becase later she says "I don't get you Ennis Del Mar"
man...I just had an out of body experience...
where am I??
*Jess clicking her heels together*There's no place like home...there's no place like home...
re: "There's no place like home...there's no place like home"
Jess! You fibber!! - you spend a lot of time on other forums (admin for one, not to mention ALL the time you spend checking out the images on that little "Anything Goes" forum)
Will anyone ever believe you ever again *chorkle* *nasty larf* ** tee-hee-hee! :laugh:
"You are good enough but my father is gay...so no matter how good you are, he is looking for what you can not give him"
Back on topic...being told "You're good enough" is sort of like getting a C in school. Not an outright insult, but it isn't going to make anybody feel very confident in their abilities/attributes. So, Jr. gets her point across, basically saying like Aguirre did, "You're wasting your time here." She gets her point across but Cassie, with no better prospects, doesn't accept it.
I feel like we can see Alma Jr.'s face and demeanor change when she sees Cassie in the truck when Ennis comes to pick her up. Alma Jr. knows that she won't be getting Ennis's un-divided attention during this visit. I think the "good enough" comment might be infused with a little bit of all these issues.
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All of this is part of that pesky "space"... between what we know and believe.
And for the record, I do think that Alma Jr. knew about Ennis... but I'm not sure when she figured it out. I feel sure she knows by the end, but it's certainly not clear to me how old she was when she first understood. All of this is part of that pesky "space"... between what we know and believe.
:-\
I am of the camp that the girls could hear it all from the living room on Thanksgiving. They were only about 15 feet away, and their mom and dad were out there alone together, yet overhearable. What kids of divorce wouldn't be listening as best they could? And then afterward, "Mom, what were you and Daddy so upset about?" "Jack Nasty..."Geez I LOVE this Board
wellllll...I always thought that Junior knew that Ennis was gay. So to me it was always an unfinished sentence...I can almost hear the ending..."You are good enough but my father is gay...so no matter how good you are, he is looking for what you can not give him"
I don't think Junior ( or Cassie) knew Ennis was gay.
Often family members are blind to the thought because they love the person so much. As a gay Teen, I spent alot of time with my Aunt on vacations. She was a lesbian but I never knew it. It was only after her funeral that all these other lesbians showed up that I was shocked! How could I of all people miss that? Denial?
My parents had suspected all these years. But I didn't despite all the clues. I loved her for who she was. Her being single all her life was not unusual to me. To me she was just this non-feminine, athletic, lonely spinster living with 30 or 40 cats. Go figure.
So I think it is possible that Junior didn't know. Perhaps she was clinging to the idea her Dad and Mom would get back together eventually? A lot of kids of divorces wish that. After she married Monroe however, that hope was dashed. Then Cassie was just "good enough" yet still in the way of her time with Ennis.
Cassies "I don't get you Ennis DelMar" certainly confirms that she had no clue. Alot of girls who suspect a boyfriend is gay will dismiss the idea because the guy is having sex with them. They figure :"If he was gay he wouldn't want sex right?" Trust me, I have heard that exclaimed from girls before!
By the way, did you notice how Cassie seems to get, hmmm, more drab or something as time goes on? I mean, Cassie's incredibly gorgeous and vivaceous the first time we see her, and she's got this spring to her (or maybe that's just the work she puts into her hair). But later on, her hair gets less curly, and she gradually looks less and less perky.