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Title: Dream Interpretation
Post by: delalluvia on July 28, 2007, 02:05:46 pm
Anyone good at it?

I rarely remember my dreams, so that is why these dreams are rather surprising because not only do I remember them, they're also what is called repetitive dreams.  I'm dreaming of the same thing.

The first series - one I've dreamt of once a year off and on my entire life - is about snakes.  Usually I'm alone in some wilderness place, climbing a cliff or walking through a rocky field when suddenly - despite no warning - I realize I'm surrounded by snakes.  Not Indiana Jones style, but one here and there as far as the eye can see all around me.

I don't have a phobia about snakes, but if I can go my whole life and not see them in the wild, it would be OK with me.

For an instant, I'm scared and I freeze.  But the fear passes.  I know if I am cautious, the snakes won't bother me and I go on.

The next series is stranger, IMO.

First of all, I'm not married and have never much wanted to be except in an abstract way when I was much younger.  I'm not very domestic and pretty independent of my family (e.g. the thought of calling my mother or sister daily just to 'talk' or 'check in' is alien to me).

Last year I went through a month where I dreamed - at least once a week - that I was at my own wedding.  It was an arranged wedding, meaning I didn't know who I was marrying and I hadn't planned any of it and it was a complete surprise to me.

But my family was there and had taken care of all the details.  I was literally at the church, looking at all the arrangements and people gathering in a slow kind of panic.  Protesting all the way, I was put into a gown, handed some flowers and dragged to the church aisle and then...I woke up.

This year, last week and now this week, I've dreamed again that I am getting ready for my own wedding.  Again, it's unexpected and unplanned, but this time, my family is nowhere in sight, I've my friends (people in my dream that I recognize as 'friends' but who aren't my friends in real life) around and I'm in some grand place - not a church - a place like some European country estate.  Again, I don't know my groom personally, but throughout these dreams, I'm trying to get some private time to talk to him and get to know him because this time, I don't seem to mind getting married despite the suddenness of the event.  I'm not going 'yes yes yes I want to be married!' I'm just passively going along.

But I never get any time alone with my groom to talk to him.  Again, the wedding is all arranged, people are attending festivities, but the deed never gets done.

Another difference is I actually see my groom in these dreams and they're both Hollywood hunks.  I can't recall my first dream groom, but tonight's dream groom was Hugh Jackman.  :-*

Most dream interpretation books either discuss marriages or weddings where the bride is an active willing participant, but say nothing about weddings where the bride is unwilling or impassive.

Anyone willing to take a stab at these?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: mvansand76 on July 28, 2007, 02:08:38 pm
Hey!
This seems like a great thread for the new forum How We Live! Can I move it there?
Mel
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: delalluvia on July 28, 2007, 02:33:35 pm
Hey!
This seems like a great thread for the new forum How We Live! Can I move it there?
Mel

Go right ahead.  I didn't know where to put this.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kelda on July 28, 2007, 05:08:55 pm
Anyone good at it?

I rarely remember my dreams, so that is why these dreams are rather surprising because not only do I remember them, they're also what is called repetitive dreams.  I'm dreaming of the same thing.

The first series - one I've dreamt of once a year off and on my entire life - is about snakes.  Usually I'm alone in some wilderness place, climbing a cliff or walking through a rocky field when suddenly - despite no warning - I realize I'm surrounded by snakes.  Not Indiana Jones style, but one here and there as far as the eye can see all around me.

I don't have a phobia about snakes, but if I can go my whole life and not see them in the wild, it would be OK with me.

For an instant, I'm scared and I freeze.  But the fear passes.  I know if I am cautious, the snakes won't bother me and I go on.

The next series is stranger, IMO.

First of all, I'm not married and have never much wanted to be except in an abstract way when I was much younger.  I'm not very domestic and pretty independent of my family (e.g. the thought of calling my mother or sister daily just to 'talk' or 'check in' is alien to me).

Last year I went through a month where I dreamed - at least once a week - that I was at my own wedding.  It was an arranged wedding, meaning I didn't know who I was marrying and I hadn't planned any of it and it was a complete surprise to me.

But my family was there and had taken care of all the details.  I was literally at the church, looking at all the arrangements and people gathering in a slow kind of panic.  Protesting all the way, I was put into a gown, handed some flowers and dragged to the church aisle and then...I woke up.

This year, last week and now this week, I've dreamed again that I am getting ready for my own wedding.  Again, it's unexpected and unplanned, but this time, my family is nowhere in sight, I've my friends (people in my dream that I recognize as 'friends' but who aren't my friends in real life) around and I'm in some grand place - not a church - a place like some European country estate.  Again, I don't know my groom personally, but throughout these dreams, I'm trying to get some private time to talk to him and get to know him because this time, I don't seem to mind getting married despite the suddenness of the event.  I'm not going 'yes yes yes I want to be married!' I'm just passively going along.

But I never get any time alone with my groom to talk to him.  Again, the wedding is all arranged, people are attending festivities, but the deed never gets done.

Another difference is I actually see my groom in these dreams and they're both Hollywood hunks.  I can't recall my first dream groom, but tonight's dream groom was Hugh Jackman.  :-*

Most dream interpretation books either discuss marriages or weddings where the bride is an active willing participant, but say nothing about weddings where the bride is unwilling or impassive.

Anyone willing to take a stab at these?

You know I have no idea about this one but I sure wish I had kept the website address I had for a dream site I came across over a year ago.

I had this extremely vivid dream about my ex boyfriend - I was giving birth in hospital - and he was called from work to come to the hospital. He arrived wearing a suit.

Now he was and is still a postman so I think in the almost 6 years I was with him I saw him in a suit about twice - so this was pretty unusual and so something that stood out in the dream. 

I found this site I was talking about and it was pretty accurate actually.

Obviously giving birth is about a new beginning..

Seperately it said seeing an ex in a hospital was about letting go to the relationship. And there was also some quite accurate relevance about him wearing a suit too.

I will do a reckie and see if I can find it.

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kelda on July 28, 2007, 05:28:38 pm
haha!

I googled "dream suit hospital ex boyfriend" and the website was the first hit! Thanks google!!!

http://www.dreammoods.com/dreamdictionary/e2.htm (http://www.dreammoods.com/dreamdictionary/e2.htm)

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To dream that you see your ex-boyfriend dressed in a suit at a hospital, suggests that you have come to terms with that relationship and have completed the healing process.


I typed in marriage to the same website - you can have a look yourself, but some relevant things it did say was.....

http://www.dreammoods.com (http://www.dreammoods.com)

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To dream that you are planning your own wedding to someone you never met, is a metaphor symbolizing the union of your masculine and feminine side. It represents a transitional phase where you are seeking some sort of balance between your aggressive side and emotional side.

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To see a wedding in your dream, symbolizes a new beginning or transition in your current life.� Dreams involving weddings are generally negative and highlight some anxiety or fear. It often refers to feelings of bitterness, sorrow, or death.� Alternatively, wedding dreams reflect your issues about commitment and independence�

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To see a marriage in your dream, signifies commitment, harmony or transitional period. You are undergoing an important developmental phase in your life. The dream may also represent the unification of formerly separate or opposite aspects of yourself. In particular, it is the union of masculine or feminine aspects of yourself.�Consider the qualities and characteristics of the person that you are marrying. These are the qualities that you need to look at incorporating within yourself.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: MaineWriter on July 28, 2007, 05:39:03 pm

Another difference is I actually see my groom in these dreams and they're both Hollywood hunks.  I can't recall my first dream groom, but tonight's dream groom was Hugh Jackman.  :-*



This would be a dream I wouldn't mind having over and over again! LOL

L
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: delalluvia on July 28, 2007, 07:35:12 pm
This would be a dream I wouldn't mind having over and over again! LOL

L

It would have been had I been able to get a second alone with him!!  Throughout the dream, it was him at a distance or surrounded by other people during the festivities, riding to hounds, taking last minute fittings, waving and smiling at me, "Hello darling!", but me never getting within a hand's breadth of him, dammitall!  :P

 :D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: delalluvia on July 28, 2007, 07:38:05 pm
haha!

I googled "dream suit hospital ex boyfriend" and the website was the first hit! Thanks google!!!

Jeez, it must have been a strange dream for google to snatch it up the first time!


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I typed in marriage to the same website - you can have a look yourself, but some relevant things it did say was.....

http://www.dreammoods.com (http://www.dreammoods.com)


Thanks Kelda, I'll go look.  Again, I think what is happening in my dreams is a significant difference from what most sites tell you

e.g.

 I'm NOT planning the wedding and it's a wedding that's happening, not a marriage and the ceremony never actually takes place.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: moremojo on July 28, 2007, 07:51:47 pm
I had an interesting dream last night. Perhaps inspired by the recent talk of a musical version of BBM starring Hugh Jackman and James Marsden, I dreamt that I was rewatching the film, but instead of ending as it does in real life, the concluding scene showed Ennis reunited with Jack in death, with Jack welcoming his beloved with a song of love. He sang, in a smooth and melodious voice, a song many would recognize (I did myself), but whose artist and title elude me now. He sang of how Ennis had been what he had been waiting for "all of my life". And then the men embraced in a tender kiss framed by a glowing red sunset.

As I wrote to a friend earlier, it sounds awfully trite, but it seemed, felt so right in my dream. As if this was the way it was supposed to happen, did happen.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on July 28, 2007, 07:54:58 pm



        very interesting!!!!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: MaineWriter on July 28, 2007, 08:28:34 pm
It would have been had I been able to get a second alone with him!!  Throughout the dream, it was him at a distance or surrounded by other people during the festivities, riding to hounds, taking last minute fittings, waving and smiling at me, "Hello darling!", but me never getting within a hand's breadth of him, dammitall!  :P

 :D

He's saying "Hello darling!" but you never get in a hand's breadth....sounds like a nightmare, not a dream! LOL
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kelda on July 29, 2007, 06:35:46 am

Thanks Kelda, I'll go look.  Again, I think what is happening in my dreams is a significant difference from what most sites tell you

e.g.

 I'm NOT planning the wedding and it's a wedding that's happening, not a marriage and the ceremony never actually takes place.

ah well, perhsaps wedding is better to put in - i tried to put arranged marriage in but it didn't come up with anything.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: MaineWriter on July 29, 2007, 08:31:59 am
I had this crazy dream last night where I was floating down a river with my daughter on some sort of a raft (it actually looked like a thin mattress covered in white plastic). At one point, I was looking over at the bank of the river and the water was lapping up and making waves. I said to my daughter, "Oh, that's what a bore looks like. I'll have to tell Kelda, now I can picture it!"

LOL

L
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kelda on July 29, 2007, 09:56:08 am
I had this crazy dream last night where I was floating down a river with my daughter on some sort of a raft (it actually looked like a thin mattress covered in white plastic). At one point, I was looking over at the bank of the river and the water was lapping up and making waves. I said to my daughter, "Oh, that's what a bore looks like. I'll have to tell Kelda, now I can picture it!"

LOL

L

 :laugh:  ;D Awww.. I was in your dream - how cool!

Did it look like this??

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[youtube=425,350]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4KoGhha5klM[/youtube]

42 secs
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jiHopZl5sHo[/youtube]

I had a dream about getting married & only giving people a days notice last night - I don't think it meant anything other that i read and posted to this thread just before I went to bed!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: mvansand76 on July 29, 2007, 03:20:05 pm
I had an interesting dream last night. Perhaps inspired by the recent talk of a musical version of BBM starring Hugh Jackman and James Marsden, I dreamt that I was rewatching the film, but instead of ending as it does in real life, the concluding scene showed Ennis reunited with Jack in death, with Jack welcoming his beloved with a song of love. He sang, in a smooth and melodious voice, a song many would recognize (I did myself), but whose artist and title elude me now. He sang of how Ennis had been what he had been waiting for "all of my life". And then the men embraced in a tender kiss framed by a glowing red sunset.

As I wrote to a friend earlier, it sounds awfully trite, but it seemed, felt so right in my dream. As if this was the way it was supposed to happen, did happen.

What I wouldn't do for a dream like that, moremojo! It sounds beautiful...
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: moremojo on August 13, 2007, 02:03:20 am
He sang, in a smooth and melodious voice, a song many would recognize (I did myself), but whose artist and title elude me now.
I found the song and artist (many out there will recognize this one). Read more at the following post:

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,903.msg236729.html#msg236729 (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,903.msg236729.html#msg236729)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kelda on August 13, 2007, 04:14:27 am
I had a very vivvid dream last night which scared the begebus outta me.

Callum had died (don't know how) I was at his funeral. I was crying and sobbing & dry heaving (as you would) - and we had got to the funeral by private bus and the coffin was in the bus. My sister was arguing with someone as she felt noone was listening to her pain over his death. And I was just ignoring her as I couldn't deal with her as well as myself.


The sister bit was just cos she was annoying me yesterday about something similar - thinking of herself before others or my thoughts on something that directly involved me.

The funeral bit.. hmm.. did a google search this morning. Not meaningful in any way I can think of from this interpreation!

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Dreaming about funerals does not necessarily symbolize physical death for you or anyone else. It could instead symbolize an ending of a different kind. You may be burying relationships, conditions or even emotions that you no longer need and that are no longer conducive to your personal growth. On the other hand, this dream may symbolize the burying of sensitivities and emotions that are too difficult to cope with. It may reflect numbness or a feeling that is the opposite of aliveness, such as depression and emptiness. Either way, burying a person that is alive suggests some emotional turmoil. Please consider all of the details in this dream to find the appropriate message. Old dream interpretation books say that dreaming about funerals is a dream of the contrary. Instead of sadness, the dreamer will experience happiness and go to celebrations, such as weddings. See Also: Coffin, Death


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Coffin
To see a coffin in your dream, symbolizes the womb. If the coffin is empty, then it suggests that you are having some irreconcilable differences.

To see a body in a coffin, signifies that you will be going through a period of depression. You may feel confined, restricted and lack personal freedom. There may be a dead or decaying situation or issue in your life and this dream is calling attention to it. It is time to end this situation or relationship.




Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 21, 2007, 08:28:19 pm
Last night I dreamed about a library book I checked out a long time ago. I forgot to take it back to the library, and even now it is sitting in some corner gathering dust, but I've lost track of it. By now, I must owe about $40,000 in overdue charges. The book is a collection of recipes, so old and historic that they are called "receipts" instead of recipes. Some of them include "Recipe for a Small Dish of Happiness," "A Pudding for Passion," and "Humble Pie." Someday if I ever have time, I'm going to go in search of this book and hope bookworms haven't eaten its pages. And when I do, I'm going to do more than just browse the pages. I'm actually going to go in the kitchen and whip up one of the recipes. Some day, when I find the time. . . .

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: delalluvia on October 29, 2007, 09:51:41 pm
Last night I dreamed about a library book I checked out a long time ago. I forgot to take it back to the library, and even now it is sitting in some corner gathering dust, but I've lost track of it. By now, I must owe about $40,000 in overdue charges. The book is a collection of recipes, so old and historic that they are called "receipts" instead of recipes. Some of them include "Recipe for a Small Dish of Happiness," "A Pudding for Passion," and "Humble Pie." Someday if I ever have time, I'm going to go in search of this book and hope bookworms haven't eaten its pages. And when I do, I'm going to do more than just browse the pages. I'm actually going to go in the kitchen and whip up one of the recipes. Some day, when I find the time. . . .



Reminds me of that movie that came out this summer Waitress with Keri Russell, where she makes pies like "I hate my husband" pie.  ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kelda on November 13, 2007, 04:51:51 am
Well I had an odd but cool dream last night.

I think is all the holiday talk on the holidays forum!!

I was visiting a cross between Clarissa (Ellemeno) and Leslie (Mainwriter) at their house for Christmas. It swapped from Leslie to Clarissa it wasn't some sort of hybrid...! ... but there was a daughter - who was minimeno's age but I think she was called Hannah. So she was a kind of hybrid!

Anyway, I was having a lovely time and experience a very american xmas 9although it wasmn't xmas day just the lead up to it), and Leslie/Clarissa were being the perfect host and I was walking along the street and I saw the end of a Robbery in progress in a jewleery shop and and i saw someone running away - who was an innocent bystander that had tried to foil the proceedings - which I later found out was Shakestheground (Truman) - and the robber turned me into a cat.

My new-ish girlfriend (!?!) - who was a cross between Atz75 (Amanda) and Melissa (snavel del snarker snork) was worried about me being a cat.. and tracked down Truman who was able to find out info on the robbers and find a spell to bring me back round to being a person.

All the time I was hiding in clarissa/leslie's bedroom telling their family (but not Calrissa/leslie - she knew) that i had a cold and so was staying in bed.

Wierd!!



Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 13, 2007, 12:29:22 pm
He, he, this reminds me of the dream your countrywoman Becky had one time:

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,571.0.html (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,571.0.html)


Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kelda on November 13, 2007, 07:25:36 pm
heh both are certainly equally as odd!!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: injest on November 13, 2007, 10:10:35 pm
Well I had an odd but cool dream last night.

I think is all the holiday talk on the holidays forum!!

I was visiting a cross between Clarissa (Ellemeno) and Leslie (Mainwriter) at their house for Christmas. It swapped from Leslie to Clarissa it wasn't some sort of hybrid...! ... but there was a daughter - who was minimeno's age but I think she was called Hannah. So she was a kind of hybrid!

Anyway, I was having a lovely time and experience a very american xmas 9although it wasmn't xmas day just the lead up to it), and Leslie/Clarissa were being the perfect host and I was walking along the street and I saw the end of a Robbery in progress in a jewleery shop and and i saw someone running away - who was an innocent bystander that had tried to foil the proceedings - which I later found out was Shakestheground (Truman) - and the robber turned me into a cat.

My new-ish girlfriend (!?!) - who was a cross between Atz75 (Amanda) and Melissa (snavel del snarker snork) was worried about me being a cat.. and tracked down Truman who was able to find out info on the robbers and find a spell to bring me back round to being a person.

All the time I was hiding in clarissa/leslie's bedroom telling their family (but not Calrissa/leslie - she knew) that i had a cold and so was staying in bed.

Wierd!!





meeooorrrrrwww!!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kelda on November 14, 2007, 04:34:26 am
heh MIEOW to you too!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on November 14, 2007, 04:39:41 am



      Wow Jess, that was unbelievable...And did you know that Leslie's daughters name is Hannah...?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kelda on November 14, 2007, 04:45:22 am
Janice

(it was me that had the dream) - yes I did, and in the Holidays forum she had been talking about her house and had posted a pciture so i think it all stemmed from there!!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on November 14, 2007, 10:12:24 am
which I later found out was Shakestheground (Truman) - and the robber turned me into a cat.

My new-ish girlfriend (!?!) - who was a cross between Atz75 (Amanda) and Melissa (snavel del snarker snork) was worried about me being a cat.. and tracked down Truman who was able to find out info on the robbers and find a spell to bring me back round to being a person.


Wierd!!





Wow, that was strange, and then I saw you in a dream last night, there was just a lot of activity going on, I cant't remember what it was about.

But yesterday a gun shop in my town got robbed. I am not sure if a cat was involved. But I also remember Scott posting something about purring..... :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: McNell on November 16, 2007, 05:46:36 pm
Hi....I'm new here,trying to find my way around...found this thread to be very interesting since I LOVE reading about dreams and what they really mean...

thanks  ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: injest on November 16, 2007, 06:09:01 pm
Hi....I'm new here,trying to find my way around...found this thread to be very interesting since I LOVE reading about dreams and what they really mean...

thanks  ;D

Howdy AquadaGirl!!!

welcome to Bettermost!

you like dreams?? Tell us one of yours!

we will look in our crystal balls and interpret for you!  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: McNell on November 16, 2007, 06:46:50 pm
Howdy AquadaGirl!!!

welcome to Bettermost!

you like dreams?? Tell us one of yours!

we will look in our crystal balls and interpret for you!  ;) ;)

OMG.....haven't had one in days....some of mine usually come true...good,bad...all depends

But I'll make sure that the next one I'll come in here and tell... ;)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: injest on November 16, 2007, 07:03:45 pm
OMG.....haven't had one in days....some of mine usually come true...good,bad...all depends

But I'll make sure that the next one I'll come in here and tell... ;)

my father had dreams like that....they are a bit spooky aren't they?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: McNell on November 16, 2007, 07:10:41 pm
my father had dreams like that....they are a bit spooky aren't they?

I seem to have more good dreams though..so i concentrate on that..  the scarier one's just may mean that someone is going to talk bad about me or it may mean a bad day at work,avoid certain people  ...blah,blah,blah...nothing about death or anything...God, I hope to never find out
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: delalluvia on November 16, 2007, 10:11:44 pm
I seem to have more good dreams though..so i concentrate on that..  the scarier one's just may mean that someone is going to talk bad about me or it may mean a bad day at work,avoid certain people  ...blah,blah,blah...nothing about death or anything...God, I hope to never find out

I wouldn't worry about that, though.  I think several of us on this thread have 'died' or had someone die in their dreams, but nothing much ever happens.  I've died several times in my dreams over the years.

Still here.  ;D  And so are other people I've dreamed that died.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kerry on November 16, 2007, 11:17:17 pm
OMG.....haven't had one in days....some of mine usually come true...good,bad...all depends

But I'll make sure that the next one I'll come in here and tell... ;)

Many years ago, I worked with a woman whose dreams would come true. But only a particular sort of dream - aircraft crash dreams. Every now and then she would arrive at work absolutely ashen-faced and solemnly pronounce that an horrendous aircraft crash was about to occur - because she dreamt about it the night before.

A cynic would say that aircraft crashes aren't unusual. Small and large planes fall from the sky with regular monotony. However, Shirley could describe details of "her" crash beforehand. Such things as location and other particulars.

Spooky.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kelda on November 17, 2007, 10:56:55 am
I seem to have more good dreams though..so i concentrate on that..  the scarier one's just may mean that someone is going to talk bad about me or it may mean a bad day at work,avoid certain people  ...blah,blah,blah...nothing about death or anything...God, I hope to never find out

Yeah death normally signifies the death of one era of your life and the birth of another...


seems like you know a bit about dream interpritation - look forward to hearing yours and you explaining ours!!!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: McNell on November 17, 2007, 04:43:58 pm
Yeah death normally signifies the death of one era of your life and the birth of another...


seems like you know a bit about dream interpritation - look forward to hearing yours and you explaining ours!!!

Well,I've always had "feelings"....some come true,some I can't explain of just don't have a clue. I went to a fortune teller a few years back...she stared into my eyes and said I have that gift,just need to learn how to use it...very spooky. So I've been paying more attention to stuff now. It's always amazed me.

But you're right...death means just that..doesn't necessarily mean "dying"..death actually means a hardship....troubles,something of that sort

What kills me is waking up knowing you've dreamt of something and can't remember too much of it..I wonder why that is?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kelda on November 17, 2007, 05:38:20 pm
What kills me is waking up knowing you've dreamt of something and can't remember too much of it..I wonder why that is?

Oh I hate that!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 17, 2007, 05:55:29 pm
This happens a lot...the Tibetan Buddhists say that when you're dreaming/sleeping, you're in the "between place" between lives that is. You can actually get a hint of what the death state is like when dreaming. But when you wake, life rushes back in and your living consciousness takes over, a state that is in some ways the opposite of your dreaming state. I would advise you to get in the habit of thinking about your dreams as soon as you wake, and you can keep a notebook by your bed to jot down the basic ideas, keywords, etc.

This is no idle pursuit. By remembering your dreams, you can learn a lot about yourself and improve your waking life. Your subconscious knows more about you than your conscious mind does, and can express your hopes and fears in a very inspiring way.

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: BelAir on November 17, 2007, 06:10:14 pm
I once dreamed that Heath Ledger cured me of cancer (my dream self that is)... pretty much just the site of him.  I had cancer, I caught site of him, and then I didn't have cancer.  (It was a long time ago, so I don't remember the specifics...)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: delalluvia on November 21, 2007, 08:24:02 pm
Many years ago, I worked with a woman whose dreams would come true. But only a particular sort of dream - aircraft crash dreams. Every now and then she would arrive at work absolutely ashen-faced and solemnly pronounce that an horrendous aircraft crash was about to occur - because she dreamt about it the night before.

A cynic would say that aircraft crashes aren't unusual. Small and large planes fall from the sky with regular monotony. However, Shirley could describe details of "her" crash beforehand. Such things as location and other particulars.

Spooky.

Not to get all Scully Skeptical on your old friend Shirley, but if she knew particulars, what did she do to try to stop them?  After all they're airplanes.  They're on a schedule.  If she knows which one is going to crash and when, she could easily stop the flight. 
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: injest on November 21, 2007, 10:06:26 pm
Not to get all Scully Skeptical on your old friend Shirley, but if she knew particulars, what did she do to try to stop them?  After all they're airplanes.  They're on a schedule.  If she knows which one is going to crash and when, she could easily stop the flight. 

sure! she could call the plane company

*ring ring*

"Hi thanks for calling SuperCheap Air, how may I help you?"

"I dreamed one of your planes crashed. The 3:10 to Tuskeedoo!"

"YOU DID!!? We will cancel it right away! THANK YOU so much for caring enough to call"

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

(just kidding!!)

I don't think they would cancel the flight...

(Hi Del!! Haven't seen you in a while...we must be missing each other)

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: delalluvia on November 22, 2007, 12:07:18 am
sure! she could call the plane company

*ring ring*

"Hi thanks for calling SuperCheap Air, how may I help you?"

"I dreamed one of your planes crashed. The 3:10 to Tuskeedoo!"

"YOU DID!!? We will cancel it right away! THANK YOU so much for caring enough to call"

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

(just kidding!!)

I don't think they would cancel the flight...

 ;D

Nope, seriously the phone call would go more like:

*Ring ring*

"Hi thanks for calling SuperCheap Air, how may I help you?"

"I've planted a bomb on Flight EZ3..."

Or she could literally drive onto the airfield at the proper time, shutting down the airport.

If you've ever read Stephen King's book The Dead Zone

SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
















The main character can see the future.  His talent has been proven beyond all doubt.  He ponders why he doesn't stop things from happening.  In one situation, he knows a teenage hangout is a fire trap.  Everyone is going there after the prom and he sees that a fire is going to break out and kill a bunch of celebrating teenagers.  What does he do?  He and other characters call the club to try to get them to shut down for the night.  ::)  Of course the owners refuse - it's a big money night!  Instead, the main character's friends plan their own party and invite as many people as possible to keep them from going to the club.

Inevitably, the night goes on, the club opens its doors...and a fire breaks out and the tragedy costs a lot of teenagers their lives.

The character realizes he could have done more than phone.  He could have gone there the night before the prom - when everyone is asleep - and burn the place down himself.  Or he could have driven his car into the club, destroying the doorway and foyer and the club would have to close down for repairs.  He realizes he could have done a lot of mundane things to stop things from happening that had nothing to do with dramatically announcing that he could see the future.

Same with Kerry's friend.  There are quite a few things Shirley could have done to stop or delay the flights.

I was just wondering - like the Stephen King character and like Penn and Teller - why she did not.

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(Hi Del!! Haven't seen you in a while...we must be missing each other)

I've been here.  Miss you, too.  Have a Happy Turkey Day!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: injest on November 22, 2007, 12:17:32 am
I always wonder how come phsyics don't just go and buy lotto tickets and retire?

and I am not dismissing dreams of the future...or of events. I remember being about nine? I think, and I woke up to find my father pacing thru the house saying "Uncle John is dead...laying out there in his front yard" over and over...we didn't have a phone and my mother persuaded him to go back to bed.

and it was true 
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: delalluvia on November 22, 2007, 12:53:55 am
I always wonder how come phsyics don't just go and buy lotto tickets and retire?

and I am not dismissing dreams of the future...or of events. I remember being about nine? I think, and I woke up to find my father pacing thru the house saying "Uncle John is dead...laying out there in his front yard" over and over...we didn't have a phone and my mother persuaded him to go back to bed.

and it was true 

I'm not denigrating people who have oracular dreams or visions.  In your father's case, he saw/felt Uncle John's death after the fact.  I just have my doubts about people who claim they see things ahead of the event and have specific information on a regular basis.

Like you said, if that's the case then they should buy a lotto ticket.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kerry on November 22, 2007, 08:05:21 am
Not to get all Scully Skeptical on your old friend Shirley, but if she knew particulars, what did she do to try to stop them?  After all they're airplanes.  They're on a schedule.  If she knows which one is going to crash and when, she could easily stop the flight.   

Haha!  :laugh: Shirley was good, but she wasn't that good lol!!!  ::)

When I say she knew particulars, I mean she would be able to say such things as (describing her dream), "it was a little plane" or "it was a big plane," and "it was somewhere in Asia" or "it was somewhere in Africa" and other such chilling particulars like "I heard many people screaming." Given the gazillions of flights every day, the sketchy particulars she came up with were invariable close to the mark. Alas, she could never provide the name of the airline or the flight number.  :-\

What I remember most about this was the look on Shirley's face. For her, it was a very real and horrifying experience.  :o

Shirley was one of those people who did not want to have this capacity. She would have gladly given it away to someone else if she could. She no longer works with me and we've lost touch, but I dare say she is still having her air crash dreams. I don't envy her.  :'(
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: delalluvia on November 22, 2007, 12:43:30 pm
Haha!  :laugh: Shirley was good, but she wasn't that good lol!!!  ::)

When I say she knew particulars, I mean she would be able to say such things as (describing her dream), "it was a little plane" or "it was a big plane," and "it was somewhere in Asia" or "it was somewhere in Africa" and other such chilling particulars like "I heard many people screaming." Given the gazillions of flights every day, the sketchy particulars she came up with were invariable close to the mark. Alas, she could never provide the name of the airline or the flight number.  :-\

What I remember most about this was the look on Shirley's face. For her, it was a very real and horrifying experience.  :o

Shirley was one of those people who did not want to have this capacity. She would have gladly given it away to someone else if she could. She no longer works with me and we've lost touch, but I dare say she is still having her air crash dreams. I don't envy her.  :'(

OK, that clears that up.   ;D  I was just wondering.  One guy has been on several documentaries.  I'm not sure if he's legit or not, but he lived near the Chicago area and said he foresaw the crash of Flight 191 back in '79.  I believe I recall him saying he was actually in touch with the airline, since he recognized the markings on the plane and was trying to narrow down the flight with his vision - he had the dream every single night leading up to the crash - but failed to find the exact flight.

After the plane crashed, his dreams about it stopped.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: injest on November 22, 2007, 12:46:41 pm
I dreamed I was looking at buying a new house....someone told me about this house for sale...I went to look at it. It was GORGEOUS!! brand new...two story, decks, the whole nine yards.

and it was right in the middle of a trailer park. A bad seedy looking trailer park.

hmmm wonder what in the world that means...
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: delalluvia on November 22, 2007, 01:08:15 pm
I dreamed I was looking at buying a new house....someone told me about this house for sale...I went to look at it. It was GORGEOUS!! brand new...two story, decks, the whole nine yards.

and it was right in the middle of a trailer park. A bad seedy looking trailer park.

hmmm wonder what in the world that means...

Heh, I'll take a swipe -

You have Champagne dreams on a Beer budget?
There's a reason the house is for sale?   :laugh: :laugh:

I had another soap-opera dream - where I dream some big English "Dynasty" soap opera, full of beautiful rich people with problems plot, fully hashed out and literally as the plot is climaxing and one character charges back into the family gathering to kill another - a shot rings out, a window breaks, people scream, everyone looks to see who was shot -

My phone rings and wakes me up.  A friend is calling to wish me a happy Thanksgiving.   >:(

Tried to go back to the dream, but it was too late.

The timing of the call was uncanny.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Lumière on November 22, 2007, 01:10:15 pm
I dream frequently and I usually get very vivid, intricate dreams with lots of twists and turns and complications.  If I could harness that part of my sub-conscious in the physical world, I could use it to write amazing novels and make a ton of money (or not..) but I am amazed (and sometimes frightened) when I wake up after such dreams.

One of my recent dreams -
I dreamt that I got into a fist fight with a bus driver and actually killed him and made off with his bus!  :o
When I woke up and told my girlfriend about it, she kinda freaked out and said, "You mean, you actually killed him?!" lol.. Scary, funny...
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: BelAir on November 22, 2007, 05:09:03 pm
I dream frequently and I usually get very vivid, intricate dreams with lots of twists and turns and complications.  If I could harness that part of my sub-conscious in the physical world, I could use it to write amazing novels and make a ton of money (or not..) but I am amazed (and sometimes frightened) when I wake up after such dreams.

One of my recent dreams -
I dreamt that I got into a fist fight with a bus driver and actually killed him and made off with his bus!  :o
When I woke up and told my girlfriend about it, she kinda freaked out and said, "You mean, you actually killed him?!" lol.. Scary, funny...

Hmmnn...  do you remember why you got in a fight with the bus driver?

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Lumière on November 22, 2007, 05:58:06 pm
Hmmnn...  do you remember why you got in a fight with the bus driver?


All I remember now was that he got off the bus and started arguing with me.  He grabbed hold of me and I threw a punch his way and he fell down and never woke up again.   So I concluded that he was dead.  :-\
That was the first time I'd ever had a dream of that sort.  It was scary, yet funny in a way 'cause it was like a bad Hollywood action movie.. ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: BelAir on November 22, 2007, 06:02:23 pm
All I remember now was that he got off the bus and started arguing with me.  He grabbed hold of me and I threw a punch his way and he fell down and never woke up again.   So I concluded that he was dead.  :-\
That was the first time I'd ever had a dream of that sort.  It was scary, yet funny in a way 'cause it was like a bad Hollywood action movie.. ;D

Well, maybe your subconscious was worried that you had overreacted to something?  (i.e. you wanted him to stop arguing with you, but not drop over dead...)

 ::)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Lumière on November 22, 2007, 07:48:07 pm
Well, maybe your subconscious was worried that you had overreacted to something?  (i.e. you wanted him to stop arguing with you, but not drop over dead...)
 ::)


I never looked at it that way...
I'll have to think back and try to recall my 'state of affairs' when I had the dream.

It does seem that the entire dream was an 'overreaction' because... Well, after he didn't wake up, I found myself on a sort of hill, except it had steps from the top to the bottom.  I physically dragged his bus from the top to the road at the bottom and then tried to make my escape..  ::)  I think in the end, I woke up when I was about to be arrested or something.. lol
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: David In Indy on November 22, 2007, 08:58:50 pm
I had a terrible dream the other night. I was leaving on a trip to see some friends and when I boarded the plane I  didn't have any clothes on. I was standing there stark naked and they wouldn't let me back off the aircraft so I could go put something on.

It was awful.  >:(

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: David In Indy on November 22, 2007, 09:23:49 pm
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To dream that you are naked, denotes the fear of being found out and exposed about your activities and misjudgment.

To dream that you suddenly discover your nudity and are trying to cover up, signifies your vulnerability to a situation.


Oy vay!!

Hmmmm.....  :-\

I wonder what it could be. I'll have to think about this. Thanks for that info, Susie!  :D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: injest on November 22, 2007, 09:44:14 pm
I had a terrible dream the other night. I was leaving on a trip to see some friends and when I boarded the plane I  didn't have any clothes on. I was standing there stark naked and they wouldn't let me back off the aircraft so I could go put something on.

It was awful.  >:(



was Alex on the plane??

 8) 8) 8)

 :-X :-X
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: David In Indy on November 22, 2007, 10:09:25 pm
was Alex on the plane??

 8) 8) 8)

 :-X :-X

No, it was just me I think. Alex definately wasn't in the dream. The plane was full of passengers I remember.

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kerry on November 24, 2007, 07:17:43 am
I dreamed I was looking at buying a new house....someone told me about this house for sale...I went to look at it. It was GORGEOUS!! brand new...two story, decks, the whole nine yards.

and it was right in the middle of a trailer park. A bad seedy looking trailer park.

hmmm wonder what in the world that means...

I've given your dream a great deal of thought, Jess. I'm guessing that if I had that dream, I would wonder if it was maybe telling me to be content and happy with what I already have. That the other side of the fence often appears perfect, "the whole nine yards," but there is always a twist in the tail when it comes to perfection, which is often right in your own back yard in the first place.

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kelda on November 24, 2007, 11:56:40 am
I've given your dream a great deal of thought, Jess. I'm guessing that if I had that dream, I would wonder if it was maybe telling me to be content and happy with what I already have. That the other side of the fence often appears perfect, "the whole nine yards," but there is always a twist in the tail when it comes to perfection, which is often right in your own back yard in the first place.



sounds a pretty good explanation Kerry!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 24, 2007, 12:01:04 pm
I have read that when you dream about a house or a building, it signifies that you are ready to start something new or to create a new life for yourself. The fact that you have found a nice house for yourself in the middle of a slum indicates that you want to build a new life for yourself that is to your own standards, not those of others. Go for it, Jess!!

I often dream about houses and now that I know what it means, I have a great time going through the house in my dreams and looking at every detail because it all means something once I think about it.

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: injest on December 09, 2007, 01:26:47 pm
ok, second time in two weeks I have dreamed of having my leg amputated....think my subconscious is trying to tell me to get my behind to the doctor and check out that lump??

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

(macabre: they gave me my foot...it was skinned and under the skin they had found a layer of fur...long fur like a bear or something... :P :P :P )
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kerry on December 09, 2007, 05:39:17 pm
ok, second time in two weeks I have dreamed of having my leg amputated....think my subconscious is trying to tell me to get my behind to the doctor and check out that lump??

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

(macabre: they gave me my foot...it was skinned and under the skin they had found a layer of fur...long fur like a bear or something... :P :P :P )

From dreammoods.com:

"To dream that your limbs are amputated, signifies abandoned talents and serious, permanent loss. It indicates your feelings of frustration, powerlessness and helplessness. Sometimes amputation may also represent a situation that you have been ignoring and has finally reached a crisis point. In particular, to dream that your arms are amputated, suggests that you lack motivation. Dreaming that you legs are amputated suggests that you are limited in movements and where you want to go in life."  

"To see furs in your dream, represents prosperity. You are shielded from poverty. The dream may also be symbolic of your animalistic and instinctual nature."  

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kelda on December 09, 2007, 05:47:44 pm
interesting!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: injest on December 09, 2007, 09:45:30 pm
From dreammoods.com:

"To dream that your limbs are amputated, signifies abandoned talents and serious, permanent loss. It indicates your feelings of frustration, powerlessness and helplessness. Sometimes amputation may also represent a situation that you have been ignoring and has finally reached a crisis point. In particular, to dream that your arms are amputated, suggests that you lack motivation. Dreaming that you legs are amputated suggests that you are limited in movements and where you want to go in life."  

"To see furs in your dream, represents prosperity. You are shielded from poverty. The dream may also be symbolic of your animalistic and instinctual nature."  



hmmm...well the part about frustration and loss makes sense...

but I don't see no prosperity around HERE!

well that
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: delalluvia on January 01, 2008, 02:07:39 pm
Not sure where to put this.

This is not a dream interpretation, but of signs.  For those who believe in divination and such things.

I was reading a religious magazine a few weeks back and found this website:

http://www.gravenimagesoracle.com/

It offers a free reading so I took it.  The card reading nailed me right off.  It wasn't anything bad but just very insightful.  So after reviewing the deck, I went ahead and purchased it.

Note the theme of the deck - symbols from graveyards.

On Thurday - after I ordered the deck - a close co-worker's husband died suddenly.

The deck arrived in the mail to me, the day I came back from his funeral on the last day of the year.  At the club I went to last night to celebrate the New Year, I met a woman who worked at a funeral home.

Not that I'm nervous or anything, but the universe seems to be screaming at me right now and I don't know what if anything I can or should be doing or what to expect.   :-\

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: injest on January 01, 2008, 05:32:13 pm
Not sure where to put this.

This is not a dream interpretation, but of signs.  For those who believe in divination and such things.

I was reading a religious magazine a few weeks back and found this website:

http://www.gravenimagesoracle.com/

It offers a free reading so I took it.  The card reading nailed me right off.  It wasn't anything bad but just very insightful.  So after reviewing the deck, I went ahead and purchased it.

Note the theme of the deck - symbols from graveyards.

On Thurday - after I ordered the deck - a close co-worker's husband died suddenly.

The deck arrived in the mail to me, the day I came back from his funeral on the last day of the year.  At the club I went to last night to celebrate the New Year, I met a woman who worked at a funeral home.

Not that I'm nervous or anything, but the universe seems to be screaming at me right now and I don't know what if anything I can or should be doing or what to expect.   :-\



first thing...get rid of the cards!!!

 :o :o
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Daniel on January 01, 2008, 06:30:50 pm
Thank you for that link... I was having some concerns over what I should do about this new-found talent I seem to have. Although now that I look at it for what it is I am beginning to see that it was a talent I always had. I had always been intrigued by the idea of story-telling. Using ideas, plot, and the power of performance to communicate genuinely human and emotionally significant themes and presence. And wanted to know if I should more actively pursue a career in soap opera writing.

Time is rather critical for soap opera writing right now, as the writers strike is beginning to make it more difficult to keep up the daily performance of such shows. But here is the response I got from the website.

Card #1: Root of the Question
Doorway (Divine #10)

The Doorway is a 'lucky break,' a possibility for advancement, the potential for partnerships, love, wealth, discovery. Unfortunately, it is easy to overlook such a doorway, seeing merely pillars instead. The warning is: Look around. You are not seeing the entranceway to something better. See beyond the obvious--stretch the mind, and more will be revealed!

Card #2: Immediate Past
Ivy (Mental #8)

The subject of the reading or the questioner is desperately clinging for survival. There is a fear of independence at work. By sinking roots in borrowed soil, others in the situation are being weakened. Ivy, while it grabs on for support, eventually destroys its host. Tiny roots can break apart even the strongest stone and mortar. Blunt honesty is required from those being so compromised. They need to stand apart from those who cling, although this should be done with compassion. If you are the one who is using others as a crutch, it's time to be brave and innovative, to risk failure, or success.

Card #3: Immediate Future
Amity (Social #1)

Amity means friendship, and it is to friends and family members that the you must now turn to for advice and guidance. Amity is a card of light; this seeking out of others can be a positive experience. Not only will you gain much needed information on your current project or situation, but it can strengthen the bond of amity by demonstrating a trust of your friend and respect for their insights. Don't hesitate to utilize those closest to you as a resource; they will feel necessary and welcomed in your life. Can also mean new contacts, friends or backers.

Card #4: Outside Forces
Haven (Social #10)

This card is a harbinger of false hopes. There is an unfounded sense of security at work here, a self delusion that has to be rectified before its too late. You may believe that the worst is over. You have weathered the storm. However, this is merely the eye of the tempest. The worst is yet to come. Do not be caught unaware lest disaster befall you.

Card #5: Hopes and Fears.
Karma (Emotion #4)

This is a card of balance and Karma. All the injustices that have plagued the situation are on the verge of rectification. Persons involved will be reaping what they have sewn, for good or ill. This can also be a card of favorable court decisions, fair settlements, and the positive resolution of other legal matters. In everyday situations, individuals finally receive their fair share of recognition, assistance, attention or praise. As balance is restored, be prepared for good things taking wing.


   

 
Graven Images Oracle Reading
Doorway (Divine 10)
Ivy (Mental 8)
Amity (Social 1)
Haven (Social 10)
Karma (Emotion 4)
Sacrifice (Emotion 11)
Card #1: Root of the Question
Doorway (Divine #10)

The Doorway is a 'lucky break,' a possibility for advancement, the potential for partnerships, love, wealth, discovery. Unfortunately, it is easy to overlook such a doorway, seeing merely pillars instead. The warning is: Look around. You are not seeing the entranceway to something better. See beyond the obvious--stretch the mind, and more will be revealed!


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Card #2: Immediate Past
Ivy (Mental #8)

The subject of the reading or the questioner is desperately clinging for survival. There is a fear of independence at work. By sinking roots in borrowed soil, others in the situation are being weakened. Ivy, while it grabs on for support, eventually destroys its host. Tiny roots can break apart even the strongest stone and mortar. Blunt honesty is required from those being so compromised. They need to stand apart from those who cling, although this should be done with compassion. If you are the one who is using others as a crutch, it's time to be brave and innovative, to risk failure, or success.


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Card #3: Immediate Future
Amity (Social #1)

Amity means friendship, and it is to friends and family members that the you must now turn to for advice and guidance. Amity is a card of light; this seeking out of others can be a positive experience. Not only will you gain much needed information on your current project or situation, but it can strengthen the bond of amity by demonstrating a trust of your friend and respect for their insights. Don't hesitate to utilize those closest to you as a resource; they will feel necessary and welcomed in your life. Can also mean new contacts, friends or backers.


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Card #4: Outside Forces
Haven (Social #10)

This card is a harbinger of false hopes. There is an unfounded sense of security at work here, a self delusion that has to be rectified before its too late. You may believe that the worst is over. You have weathered the storm. However, this is merely the eye of the tempest. The worst is yet to come. Do not be caught unaware lest disaster befall you.


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Card #5: Hopes and Fears.
Karma (Emotion #4)

This is a card of balance and Karma. All the injustices that have plagued the situation are on the verge of rectification. Persons involved will be reaping what they have sewn, for good or ill. This can also be a card of favorable court decisions, fair settlements, and the positive resolution of other legal matters. In everyday situations, individuals finally receive their fair share of recognition, assistance, attention or praise. As balance is restored, be prepared for good things taking wing.

Card #6: Final Outcome
Sacrifice (Emotion #11)

Sacrifice is a card of martyrdom. You have taken things to the extreme and are now a prisoner of your own drama. Whether you have actually given everything to 'the cause' or to others, or whether you've merely convinced yourself that you have, you are now caught in the loop of self-absorption and self-pity. Beware: better to give less with a happy heart than to give everything begrudgingly or purely out of a sense of duty. May also indicate an individual with bi-polar tendencies. Counseling (mental or spiritual) may be a necessary avenue to regain balance and perspective. In extremes, Sacrifice can be a sign of fanaticism.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: loneleeb3 on February 11, 2008, 11:41:12 am
This is my first post here but I had a strange dream and thought I would see what Y'all think.
So I haven't discussed this online cause it still hurts, but last Thursday I had to put my dog down.
I had her for 15yrs. It is one of the hardest things I have ever had to do. I know it was best as she was old and was losing her sight, her hearing and her ability to walk among other things.
About a year ago in December, I had to have our cat put to sleep. She was my ex wifes cat that she had for 18yrs.
That was difficult but not as hard as this.
Anyway, as you can imagine I have been a bit bummed about it.
Last night I dreamed I was in my childhood home. it was summer and all the windows were opened and it was bright and sunny. I dreamed Casey, my dog, came running into the Kitchen and she brought me a Squirrell she had caught. She was al happy and healthy and spry. She was so happy witht he gift she brought me.
About the time I was getting the Squirrell off the kitchen floor, the cat walked by.
I'm assuming that it was their way of telling me everything was ok and they were happy.
Just wondered what y'all think.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 11, 2008, 06:19:22 pm
Last night I dreamed I was in my childhood home. it was summer and all the windows were opened and it was bright and sunny. I dreamed Casey, my dog, came running into the Kitchen and she brought me a Squirrell she had caught. She was al happy and healthy and spry. She was so happy witht he gift she brought me.
About the time I was getting the Squirrell off the kitchen floor, the cat walked by.
I'm assuming that it was their way of telling me everything was ok and they were happy.
Just wondered what y'all think.
What a great dream, Lee! You are definitely moving along in the grieving process. When you dream that you are in a home or enclosure, that means that you are ready and building for something new, a new life. The details about your home show that you are ready and feeling good about this new life.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kelda on February 11, 2008, 06:25:48 pm
I'm assuming that it was their way of telling me everything was ok and they were happy.
Just wondered what y'all think.

I think you're right. Sorry about your dog Richard....  :-*
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: delalluvia on February 11, 2008, 08:06:05 pm
Your interpretation sounds perfect.  Seems like they cared enough for you to visit and let you know they were OK.   ;D

Still, am very sorry for your losses.  :'(

My elderly cats died a few years apart from each other.  I was spared having to put them down by their dying at home.  Despite the grief, whicih never quite goes away, I take comfort knowing they had lived long healthy happy lives and as much as we would like them to live forever, they can't, and we couldn't ask much more for them or from them.

May the dream bring you peace.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: injest on February 11, 2008, 08:18:42 pm
aww Rich I am sorry about your dog. Pets can really get into your heart can't they? I tell people we have livestock...and we  have pets...there is a difference. My cats mean the world to me. (those durn cows? they can go straight to...well...you know) dogs? they are pets, chickens? I dont' know about the chickens...and horses can be either or....

I have had to bury two cats in my life...I wish I had had the strength to have the first one put down. I couldn't do it. The second one died from a massive clot....he was in so much pain there was no question.

I have never dreamed about either. I envy you your dream..
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: NavyVet on February 11, 2008, 11:42:34 pm
I had the strangest dream last night, I mean really weird.
In the dream, Heath and I were hanging out together, while waiting for the results of my father's surgery.
(I should mention at this point my father is scheduled for major lung surgery tomorrow.)
I guess my Dad and Heath both have apparently been on my mind a lot lately.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: delalluvia on February 11, 2008, 11:48:10 pm
I had the strangest dream last night, I mean really weird.
In the dream, Heath and I were hanging out together, while waiting for the results of my father's surgery.
(I should mention at this point my father is scheduled for major lung surgery tomorrow.)
I guess my Dad and Heath both have apparently been on my mind a lot lately.


You're not alone.  I also had a dream that combined Heath and some sort of medical issue...unfortunately, I rarely remember my dreams and this was one of them. That's pretty much all I remember.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: injest on February 12, 2008, 12:04:09 am
I had the strangest dream last night, I mean really weird.
In the dream, Heath and I were hanging out together, while waiting for the results of my father's surgery.
(I should mention at this point my father is scheduled for major lung surgery tomorrow.)
I guess my Dad and Heath both have apparently been on my mind a lot lately.


Navyvet, I hope your dad comes thru ok.

{{Navyvet}}

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kelda on February 12, 2008, 03:05:38 pm
Navyvet, I hope your dad comes thru ok.

{{Navyvet}}



so do I!

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: David In Indy on February 13, 2008, 03:28:14 pm
Lots of positive energy from me to your Dad Navyvet!! :)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 15, 2008, 01:54:17 pm
I had a dream last nite where I was going on a cruise on a big big ship with my family. But I needed to get off the ship in order to go pack for the trip. There was a big party going on on the ship and on the dock with bands, food booths, a festival, confetti, parades, etc. and I had to wade through all the people to get home and pack. I kept getting waylaid and started to get rather anxioius (Maybe I've been hanging around with Jeff Wrangler too much!) Finally tho I made it home and threw my suitcases on the bed and started filling them up. I found out that I had two hours to pack--plenty of time. Whew!!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 03, 2008, 12:58:40 am
A very jarring dream last nite that woke me up. I dreamed that the traffic became so bad in Denver that, in order to get to work on Monday, I had to start out on Sunday morning! Now, that would be a GBOAUS indeed!!

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kelda on March 03, 2008, 03:20:56 pm
That would be!!!

(and I love that comment about Jeff and packing bags!)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Shasta542 on April 13, 2009, 06:53:50 am
Life may be just a dream, but how do we interpret it? What we dream at night can give us clues about what is important to us in waking life. Dreams help us to process our conscious thoughts and can give us new and important insights into the problems and challenges we face in the world. Although we may have strange and unusual dreams, there are a number of common dreams that many of us experience over and over again. Read the interpretations below for an explanation of symbols that seem to appear frequently in dreams.

http://astrocenter.astrology.msn.com/msn/ArticleAstrologyHomeV2.aspx?sd=20090414&GT1=21001 (http://astrocenter.astrology.msn.com/msn/ArticleAstrologyHomeV2.aspx?sd=20090414&GT1=21001)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: mariez on April 13, 2009, 12:33:32 pm
3. You find yourself back in the classroom, or you've failed a test.

5. Being chased.

8. Falling, flying, or sinking.


These are definitely recurrent dreams for me - especially #3.  I've had so many versions of that one.  Usually I'm suddenly back in high school or college and I'm aware that I haven't been there in ages and I'm unprepared for the huge test that day!   Being chased is fairly common, but when I wake up I can't remember who or what was chasing me.  And I've had dreams where I'm falling or sinking, but I don't remember having a "flying" dream, although I know those are pretty common.  I had no idea dreams about teeth were common - I don't remember ever having one!  Interesting stuff.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 13, 2009, 01:54:59 pm
This is all very interesting, Shasta! As most people know around here, I am a dream interpretation enthusiast. There are lots of interesting dream sites, and the Tarot holds more info as well. One book I use to help interpret my dreams is The Dream Game by Ann Faraday. And of course there is Man and His Symbols by Carl Jung. I am quoting from the link you gave us for more info:

Quote
1. Keep a dream journal near your bed to record your dreams.
2. Read through your journal once a week and underline repeating dream symbols, terms, people, and themes that arise.
3. Use the guide above to track your current emotional state and life issues, and notice the patterns and timing of their evolution.
4. Try to identify any dream symbols (cars, teeth, water) that appear in your waking life, noticing which appear with greater frequency and the nature of your interaction with these symbols. Is there any overlap between your waking and dreaming life?

There are also quite a few dream symbols in Brokeback Mountain. Can anyone name one of their favorites and what they think it means?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Shasta542 on April 13, 2009, 05:15:27 pm
This is all very interesting, Shasta! As most people know around here, I am a dream interpretation enthusiast. There are lots of interesting dream sites, and the Tarot holds more info as well. One book I use to help interpret my dreams is The Dream Game by Ann Faraday. And of course there is Man and His Symbols by Carl Jung. I am quoting from the link you gave us for more info:

There are also quite a few dream symbols in Brokeback Mountain. Can anyone name one of their favorites and what they think it means?

Like Marie, one of my most common dreams was the falling one. I hardly ever dream anymore for some reason. When I was younger, my recurring dream was Indians circling my house. I had that one many times. I always woke up afraid before anything too scary happened. Maybe it was from watching too many westerns.  :P :-\

I know there are a lot of water symbols in the movie. Not sure about the meanings---I'd be interested to hear tho.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: delalluvia on April 13, 2009, 06:16:37 pm
Interesting, thanks for posting.

Fore me, 3 recurrent dream themes - all spelling bad news.  :P
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 18, 2009, 06:40:04 pm
My most common dream is that I'm in a house, which is a new house I've just moved into or a dfferent house than in real life. I've learned to explore this new house and look at everything in it for clues to my real life challenges. These houses have ranged from mansions to trailers to little hovels made of dirt, but they are all very interesting and I always feel comfortable in them. One was a lot like the "Falling Water" house designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. The house that appears most often in my dream is a three-story structure with an almost empty first floor, a very cluttered and crowded second floor, and a third floor attic that is like a haven. One time I was on the second floor, trying to get to the top floor and found out that I could not. I had to go down to the first floor and get on an escalator that took me through the second floor and up. My husband and I argued about it because he insisted that I could get to the top from the second floor. So I said, "Hey, it's MY dream!" Another feature of this house is a separate pool house that has an indoor and an outdoor pool, with many tropical plants. One time I dreamed that I went into the pool house, and all the plants were dying. But I have not felt that way for a long time. In back of this house are some rooms that are rented out, like the places I stayed when I was in college.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Shasta542 on April 18, 2009, 06:50:12 pm
Those sound like really fun dreams, Front-Ranger!

Did you ever see the little hobbit houses in Lord of the Rings? I love those!  ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Shasta542 on April 18, 2009, 06:52:40 pm
They are built into the sides of hills and all the doors are round.  

(http://www.bradcarlson.com/drawingtable/ft/research/HobbitHouseInside.jpg)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 18, 2009, 07:03:03 pm
Thanks for the pictures from the shire, friend!! I haven't seen those for years!! Oddly enuff, my actual real life house has a couple of round windows and also a couple of half-round windows. I'll take some pics and post them here. My house also has a bank of clerestory windows in the master and guest bedrooms. These windows face south, and the moon can be seen out of them when it is full. At night, I lay bathed in moonlight which must affect my dreams. Another thing I love about my house is a shaft window in the master bathroom ceiling. When the moon is full at a certain time of night, it throws a light right into the bathtub and it seems like the bathtub is filled with an ethereal light.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Shasta542 on April 18, 2009, 07:07:20 pm
Thanks for the pictures from the shire, friend!! I haven't seen those for years!! Oddly enuff, my actual real life house has a couple of round windows and also a couple of half-round windows. I'll take some pics and post them here. My house also has a bank of clerestory windows in the master and guest bedrooms. These windows face south, and the moon can be seen out of them when it is full. At night, I lay bathed in moonlight which must affect my dreams. Another thing I love about my house is a shaft window in the master bathroom ceiling. When the moon is full at a certain time of night, it throws a light right into the bathtub and it seems like the bathtub is filled with an ethereal light.

It sounds very unique and pretty. Like a getaway---but you get to be there all the time!  
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 20, 2010, 10:22:57 am
There has been a lot of talk about dreams because of the recent film Inception. So, I'm reviving this thread! Let's resolve to remember at least one dream we have this week. It's easy to forget your dream unless you review it as soon as you wake up. Even five minutes later, the dream may fade.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 20, 2010, 11:07:28 pm
I rarely remember my dreams, but I have been having a recurring dream recently. In it I find myself walking through my family home where I grew-up as a child. It is always night and there are no lights on in the house. In the dream, I walk throughout the house, from room to room, in the dark, without turning on the lights. I am aware people are asleep in the bedrooms I visit, but I don't disturb their sleep. It's like I'm a ghost, floating through the house. I even visit my own bedroom, which was a verandah, partly built-in, but with the end facing the ocean open to the elements. I recognise it in the dream. ... Had she lived, last Friday would have been Mum's 99th birthday (she was 80 when she died in 1991). I'm wondering if her birthday is bringing about this unusual dream?  

Quite possibly, friend. An article in today's Wall Street Journal says that dreams are the brain's way of sorting through the emotional business of the day. Quite often, I have dreams about homes or structures...various places where I've lived in the past, or metaphorical homes. For instance, a recurring dream has me visiting a three-level structure. It is obviously my past (basement), present (ground floor) and future (top floor). The WSJ article says to "be aware that they (dreams) are highly metaphorical." Your dream indicates that you are open to reconnecting with people from your past and that you are in a very open ended state, willing to commit and reconnect. You are ready for new directions in your life.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 27, 2010, 09:10:26 am
People are raving about the movie Inception but I haven't seen it yet.

I had a significant dream last night...I was in my house, the three-story one I keep telling you about, but every once in a while it would change to a tiny starter home in the suburbs. It was quite crowded, because three families were visiting. The children were all very tiny and you had to be careful not to step on them. There were three men, fathers or older brothers of the children. I don't know where the mothers were...safely ensconced in a back room chatting and drinking coffee, I guess. I was just trying to keep things from devolving into utter chaos. Also I was tidying up because I was afraid someone would trip over something or knock something over. My house was quite a mess, but it seemed to have been caused by others, so it didn't cause me much distress. Except one thing...Christmas lights draped on a potted plant, and lying all over the floor in a corner. I picked those up immediately and put them on the landing to the basement, noticing that there was a pile of dirty wet clothes and dripping water there. Then I also noticed in the middle of the living room a large potted plant with dinner platter sized leaves. It was top heavy and wobbly. I straightened it out, took off some of the leaves, and moved it to the side. I also remember seeing a radio hanging on the wall with some earbuds as though someone enjoyed sitting in the easy chair below it and listening to the radio. It was an old fashioned radio but with some new white ipod earbuds. The last thing was that I noticed all the men had some wounds on their faces. One had a black eye, another a bruise on the neck, and another's face was all black and blue. When they saw my horror, they looked at me sheepishly. Apparently these men all acquired their injuries in separate accidents at their homes. Yeah, sure!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kelda on July 27, 2010, 01:33:48 pm
Wierd!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 28, 2010, 10:12:43 am
Yes, I have been scratching my head at this one. I'm thinking the banged-up men have something to do with the lumps I've taken, both literally and figuratively. ANd the children are the opposite, the little delights in my life, the moments of happiness or the blessings that I have received. My life is obviously a mess, as can be determined easily from the dream. But what fascinates me is the radio, I can't figure that one out. Even while I was dreaming, I kept looking at it and going over to it, examining it, to try to figure out why it was there and who it belonged to. Quite possibly it was a dream message from Eric!! Eric, what were you doing in my dream?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: jstephens9 on August 01, 2010, 04:06:09 pm
That is a weird dream Lee!!! I know I have some really bizarre ones myself.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 02, 2010, 10:33:36 am
Do tell, friend! We're all ears, er, eyes!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 19, 2010, 10:22:04 pm
...There were three men, fathers or older brothers of the children. I don't know where the mothers were...safely ensconced in a back room chatting and drinking coffee, I guess. I was just trying to keep things from devolving into utter chaos. Also I was tidying up because I was afraid someone would trip over something or knock something over. ...I also remember seeing a radio hanging on the wall with some earbuds as though someone enjoyed sitting in the easy chair below it and listening to the radio. It was an old fashioned radio but with some new white ipod earbuds. The last thing was that I noticed all the men had some wounds on their faces. One had a black eye, another a bruise on the neck, and another's face was all black and blue. When they saw my horror, they looked at me sheepishly. ...

I can't believe I had this dream just the day before (?) Rich had his accident...  :'(
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kelda on August 20, 2010, 04:27:40 am
 :-\
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 23, 2010, 07:12:10 pm
There are a lot of triads in my dreams, three men, three floors to the house, etc. A friend who had a Celtic tattoo explained that three is the perfect number, representing all aspects of something, such as the heighth, width, and depth. That's why you see so many triangles in Celtic art.

There is a lot of triangle imagery in Brokeback Mountain, starting with the mountain itself.

Some people interpret the story as taking place all in a flashback, or in a dream that Ennis had when Jack appeared to him.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 17, 2012, 12:12:12 am
It is especially nice to have a good dream on the eve of Martin Luther King Day. So, here is the one I had. Any ideas what it might mean?

 I dreamed that I was on a hiking outing with a group of people and, as we were standing around resting, I looked up at a ridge and saw the profile of a little animal, which I could see was a domestic cat. It was so unusual a sight that I walked up to the ridge, about 20 feet, to have a closer look. This little kitty was very friendly and was purring, so I started petting it. Then the cat lay down and rolled over on its back, stretching and enjoying my touch. It stretched out so much that it lost its balance and slipped over the other side of the ridge. I looked over the edge and saw it slipping down the slope. There was something slippery that the cat was sliding down on, maybe some wet grass. I was concerned, so I stepped over the ridge and down the other side, and I was looking around in the underbrush for a sign of the cat. I looked to my right and saw the portal of a big cave with a serene pond and stream coming out of it. The sunbeams were slanting over the water lending a golden glow to everything. A shaft of sunlight pierced the calm water and I looked down into its depths. I could see two animals under the water, walking along on the stream bed. One was like a sheep and the other was a beautiful antelope type creature with beautiful striations in tan, white and reddish brown. They were just walking along underneath the water as if it weren't there. Then I saw, on the far bank of the stream, above the animals, two guardians or shepherds walking along with staffs or guns in their hands. I was crouching down in the underbrush, so I didn't think they could see me, but I knew they wouldn't like it if they knew I was there, because I had stumbled into a secret magical place, led by an enchanted cat.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 30, 2012, 11:26:14 pm
I had the loveliest dream about my late mother last night. I was in bed, and she brought me another blanket because she thought I might be cold.  :)

I rarely dream about my mother--that I know of, anyway--so I have no idea what brought on this dream.  ???
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 31, 2012, 12:29:41 am
How wonderful, Jeff!!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: RouxB on January 31, 2012, 12:55:51 am
That is the best dream, Jeff
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on January 31, 2012, 12:59:54 pm

   You are obviously missing your mother Jeff.  Even if it is subconciously.  So your mind conjurerd her for you.  I have dreams like that from
time to time.  I hardly every have dreams about live people, that I can remember.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on January 31, 2012, 01:03:38 pm
It is especially nice to have a good dream on the eve of Martin Luther King Day. So, here is the one I had. Any ideas what it might mean?

 I dreamed that I was on a hiking outing with a group of people and, as we were standing around resting, I looked up at a ridge and saw the profile of a little animal, which I could see was a domestic cat. It was so unusual a sight that I walked up to the ridge, about 20 feet, to have a closer look. This little kitty was very friendly and was purring, so I started petting it. Then the cat lay down and rolled over on its back, stretching and enjoying my touch. It stretched out so much that it lost its balance and slipped over the other side of the ridge. I looked over the edge and saw it slipping down the slope. There was something slippery that the cat was sliding down on, maybe some wet grass. I was concerned, so I stepped over the ridge and down the other side, and I was looking around in the underbrush for a sign of the cat. I looked to my right and saw the portal of a big cave with a serene pond and stream coming out of it. The sunbeams were slanting over the water lending a golden glow to everything. A shaft of sunlight pierced the calm water and I looked down into its depths. I could see two animals under the water, walking along on the stream bed. One was like a sheep and the other was a beautiful antelope type creature with beautiful striations in tan, white and reddish brown. They were just walking along underneath the water as if it weren't there. Then I saw, on the far bank of the stream, above the animals, two guardians or shepherds walking along with staffs or guns in their hands. I was crouching down in the underbrush, so I didn't think they could see me, but I knew they wouldn't like it if they knew I was there, because I had stumbled into a secret magical place, led by an enchanted cat.

   That dream has such a lot of Brokeback references in my mind.  Along with some of the people that you know.  That is my thoughts.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 01, 2012, 10:30:36 am
You are obviously missing your mother Jeff.  Even if it is subconciously.  So your mind conjurerd her for you. 

Tell you what, I'm sure that's true--because it's always true.  :)  I suspect, however, that there is another meaning, here, that my mother providing me with another blanket may symbolize ("comfort"? "needing comfort"?) something else. Another interesting thing about this dream, too, is that I didn't actually "see" my mother. I remember turning my head slightly to look up at her (I habitually sleep on my right side, so I would have had to turn my head to look up), and what I "saw" was actually like a shadow or a silhouette of my mother--but I know it was Mother because I'd recognize that silhouette anywhere.  :)

This is certainly being an odd week for me in terms of dreams. We are told that we all dream all the time, and the question is whether or not we remember our dreams, and ordinarily I can go for months on months (sometimes it seems like years on years) without remembering my dreams. Last night, though, I had another weird sequence of dreams that I remember.

I was back in my old boyhood bedroom. My dad was seated at the desk in the corner of the room, doing some sort of paperwork. I was going through drawers in the furniture, obviously looking for something--but what?--and I found a small box that seemed to be made of cardboard with an embossed design in red and silver--decorated for Christmas. In the box I found Hershey Kisses!  :laugh:  I ate one of them, and then I gave one to my dad. Dad ate it and then announced that the chocolate had gone stale, so the candy should just be thrown out. I did this. Then I remember seeing Mother come into the room. And then I remember seeing the backpatch insignia of my leather club lying on top of the chest of drawers, and being made uncomfortable by that fact.  ??? 

Oh, yes, in this dream I was wearing pajamas.  :laugh:

(NB: At the present time, I have a backpatch lying on top of a bookcase in my bedroom; I need to get it sewn on a new vest.)

The next dream I remember, I seem to be in a clothing shop--or some place similar--with two large racks, one above the other, of what should be men's sportcoats--except that in this case they were period-style doublets and jerkins such as I might wear to a Renaissance faire or an SCA medieval reenactment event, and I was trying to find one that I liked that fit me! I don't remember whether I succeeded!  :laugh:

(NB: This dream might perhaps be related to a current event in our local SCA reenactment group. I never go to group meetings--they're too inconvenient--but at tonight's meeting there is to be a "vote of confidence" to extend the term of office of our current baron and baroness. From all accounts they are doing a fine job, and I have every confidence that they will be granted the extension. I had thought about putting together an "absentee ballot" to have a friend take to the meeting for me, but the meeting and the vote came up too quickly and the time got away from me, so this isn't happening. So I could be feeling some guilt about this--though what "guilt" might have to do with searching for a new doublet is beyond my ken!  :laugh: )
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on February 01, 2012, 01:51:20 pm
  My hubby has very convoluted dreams.  Has ever since we married.  (back when we lived just on the outskirts of
Eden.)  Anyhow, I hardly ever remember my dreams, unless they are striking and I usually have some sort of revelatory message in them..  Some have been precognitive, and others are just as your one about your mom was.  Missing someone that has passed.  The odd thing is however, I have never dreamed about my brother that killed himself.  In view of the fact that we were very very close.  I find that rather puzzling.  I would like to dream of him sometime. oh well
 
  Another thing that I find odd in my dreams of people that are gone.  My subconcious never lets me forget that they are gone.  They only are there, and look at me, or just be.  They never speak.  For a long time, I used to wonder why that was/  I finally figured out that even in my dream state, I know they are dead.  If they spoke, it would make me feel creepy.  Instead they have the ability to make me feel good, comforted and together with them.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 01, 2012, 02:17:53 pm
Instead they have the ability to make me feel good, comforted and together with them.

I'm sure that's a good thing.  :)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 06, 2012, 09:58:56 am
Well, I sure had a funny one last night. It was like a scene out of a sitcom.

I dreamed I had a car, and not just any car, but a fold-up, collapsible automobile, like something you could get from the Sharper Image catalogue!  :laugh:

It folded up very nicely and had its own carrying handle.  ;D  Unfortunately, I had to keep the collapsible car hidden away in a closet because I didn't have a license plate for it.  :(

And, this wasn't just any old collapsible car. This one had been preowned--by Sylvester Stallone!  :laugh:

You know I really did have this dream because I'd never be able to make up something like this!  ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on February 06, 2012, 11:06:37 am
Well, I sure had a funny one last night. It was like a scene out of a sitcom.

I dreamed I had a car, and not just any car, but a fold-up, collapsible automobile, like something you could get from the Sharper Image catalogue!  :laugh:

It folded up very nicely and had its own carrying handle.  ;D  Unfortunately, I had to keep the collapsible car hidden away in a closet because I didn't have a license plate for it.  :(

And, this wasn't just any old collapsible car. This one had been preowned--by Sylvester Stallone!  :laugh:

You know I really did have this dream because I'd never be able to make up something like this!  ;D

Is there some part of your identity you don't feel "licensed" to reveal publicly? So you fold it up and pack it away and keep it to yourself? Maybe something that could "get you somewhere" (as a car would)? Does this aspect of your identity have something to do with what Sylvester Stallone means (metaphorically) to you?

As for what SS might mean, think outside the box. Once, when I was married, I dreamed that I was in love with a guy in my creative writing class and was cheating on my then-husband. Since I wasn't particularly attracted to this guy in real life, I realized that the dream expressed my feelings about writing. I wanted to be doing creative writing (the classmate) rather than journalism (my husband, who is a journalist).

Often in my dreams, artists symbolize "Art." The artist might be, say, a musician, yet the art they represent is literary writing.


Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on February 06, 2012, 11:15:27 am


    I love that. It would really solve the parking issue, wouldn't it? 
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on February 06, 2012, 11:17:51 am
Is there some part of your identity you don't feel "licensed" to reveal publicly? So you fold it up and pack it away and keep it to yourself? Maybe something that could "get you somewhere" (as a car would)? Does this aspect of your identity have something to do with what Sylvester Stallone means (metaphorically) to you?

As for what SS might mean, think outside the box. Once, when I was married, I dreamed that I was in love with a guy in my creative writing class and was cheating on my then-husband. Since I wasn't particularly attracted to this guy in real life, I realized that the dream expressed my feelings about writing. I wanted to be doing creative writing (the classmate) rather than journalism (my husband, who is a journalist).

Often in my dreams, artists symbolize "Art." The artist might be, say, a musician, yet the art they represent is literary writing.





Excellent deduction K.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 06, 2012, 12:19:15 pm

    I love that. It would really solve the parking issue, wouldn't it? 

 ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 06, 2012, 12:24:38 pm
Is there some part of your identity you don't feel "licensed" to reveal publicly? So you fold it up and pack it away and keep it to yourself? Maybe something that could "get you somewhere" (as a car would)? Does this aspect of your identity have something to do with what Sylvester Stallone means (metaphorically) to you?

As for what SS might mean, think outside the box. Once, when I was married, I dreamed that I was in love with a guy in my creative writing class and was cheating on my then-husband. Since I wasn't particularly attracted to this guy in real life, I realized that the dream expressed my feelings about writing. I wanted to be doing creative writing (the classmate) rather than journalism (my husband, who is a journalist).

Often in my dreams, artists symbolize "Art." The artist might be, say, a musician, yet the art they represent is literary writing.

Lots to think about here.

Stallone might not mean anything more than that within a day or two before the dream I caught a quick glimpse of the "Rocky" statue in a local TV commercial, and the image stuck in my mind for some reason. And I recently saw the Seinfeld episode where George bought a car that formerly belonged to Jon Voight--except that it wasn't the Jon Voight. So maybe it wasn't really Sylvester Stallone's collapsible automobile.

I see I forgot to mention that the car was a very sporty model when it was un-collapsed.  ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on February 06, 2012, 12:32:25 pm
Stallone might not mean anything more than that within a day or two before the dream I caught a quick glimpse of the "Rocky" statue in a local TV commercial, and the image stuck in my mind for some reason.

Well, that would explain why it's SS instead of someone else, but it still doesn't explain what SS represents. I think he means something, otherwise your dreaming brain might have picked Jon Voigt. I had forgotten that "Rocky" was set in Philadelphia, so maybe that's significant? Or maybe that Rocky was a fighter -- could fighting have something to do with the part of your identity you're not licensed to reveal?



Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kelda on February 06, 2012, 01:28:55 pm
 :laugh: :laugh:

Well, I sure had a funny one last night. It was like a scene out of a sitcom.

I dreamed I had a car, and not just any car, but a fold-up, collapsible automobile, like something you could get from the Sharper Image catalogue!  :laugh:

It folded up very nicely and had its own carrying handle.  ;D  Unfortunately, I had to keep the collapsible car hidden away in a closet because I didn't have a license plate for it.  :(

And, this wasn't just any old collapsible car. This one had been preowned--by Sylvester Stallone!  :laugh:

You know I really did have this dream because I'd never be able to make up something like this!  ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 06, 2012, 02:17:33 pm
Well, that would explain why it's SS instead of someone else, but it still doesn't explain what SS represents. I think he means something, otherwise your dreaming brain might have picked Jon Voigt. I had forgotten that "Rocky" was set in Philadelphia, so maybe that's significant? Or maybe that Rocky was a fighter -- could fighting have something to do with the part of your identity you're not licensed to reveal?

Or maybe I'm just afraid of having my gay card pulled for being insufficiently gay?  ;D  Who knows?  :-\
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on February 06, 2012, 08:41:04 pm
Or maybe I'm just afraid of having my gay card pulled for being insufficiently gay?  ;D  Who knows?  :-\


   Maybe you will be "cured" :laugh:  if that happens... Haahaha
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 06, 2012, 10:21:06 pm
I think the car represents a "vehicle"... a way to go somewhere, and it's great to have it all ready to be assembled and packed in your closet and ready to go. So, tools to get you where you want to go are available, when you're ready. And the connection to Sylvester Stallone just means your vehicles are very strong and road worthy!!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Penthesilea on February 07, 2012, 02:43:22 am
Now I want a collapsable car! Even with a handle to carry it around. Great concept, Jeff! :)


    I love that. It would really solve the parking issue, wouldn't it? 

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 07, 2012, 01:07:35 pm
I had the weirdest full moon dream last night. I went to a performing arts center that was a series of cave-like rooms on the side of a mountain. Most of the rooms had something boring going on in them, but the largest room had a nice light show on stage with children playing with animals. Then later, I and my daughter went on a trek of some sort and she cut her hair very raggedly and had to carry a heavy weight. The dream seemed so portentious!!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on February 07, 2012, 06:55:55 pm
I had the weirdest full moon dream last night. I went to a performing arts center that was a series of cave-like rooms on the side of a mountain. Most of the rooms had something boring going on in them, but the largest room had a nice light show on stage with children playing with animals. Then later, I and my daughter went on a trek of some sort and she cut her hair very raggedly and had to carry a heavy weight. The dream seemed so portentious!!

I've heard that when you dream about rooms, or houses, they represent your own mind. Have you been feeling like much of your mind is occupied with boring things? But that you've been devoting part of your mind to something interesting that might somehow be symbolized by what you saw in the a large room?

As for the part with your daughter, given what's been happening with her lately it makes sense that in your dream she would cut her hair raggedly (change her identity, at least externally) and carry a weight (have a baby). But you and she are on the trek together -- you're supporting her emotionally on her journey.

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 07, 2012, 09:55:37 pm
Yes, I did know that, Katherine, and here's proof, written in this thread in November 2007:

I have read that when you dream about a house or a building, it signifies that you are ready to start something new or to create a new life for yourself. The fact that you have found a nice house for yourself in the middle of a slum indicates that you want to build a new life for yourself that is to your own standards, not those of others. Go for it, Jess!!

I often dream about houses and now that I know what it means, I have a great time going through the house in my dreams and looking at every detail because it all means something once I think about it.

It's interesting that lately my dreams are more of caves or outdoor "rooms". I think you are spot-on about my daughter. And, yes, there are lots of boring things going on in the various parts of my life, but children and animals are a source of delight for me...so it's an easy dream to understand.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Luvlylittlewing on February 07, 2012, 10:47:25 pm
I've experinced a recurring dream two nights in a row now: I've scored tickets to a sold out concert but I can never get there.  The first night of the dream I was prevented from going by work obligations, and being held up while on my commute from work.  Last night I was so close to making the venue; my brother was attending, and he was my ride.  Big brother rented an SUV for the night, but when I climbed in, there was no room for me.  For some inexplicable reason, the seats were occupied by cranky babies in car seats!  I exited the van, disappointed, discouraged, but I somehow managed to make it to the concert hall.  When I was about to claim my seats, I observed stadium style seating with standing room only.  No room for me! As I attempted to make my way inside the hall I woke up instantly!

I hope to remember a different dream tonight, as this particular drama wears me out.  
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 08, 2012, 12:27:58 am
Very interesting dream, LLWing! You are obviously on a quest and have a very important mission. Although there are many challenges, I have every confidence that you'll persevere in the end!!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Luvlylittlewing on February 08, 2012, 12:51:39 am
Very interesting dream, LLWing! You are obviously on a quest and have a very important mission. Although there are many challenges, I have every confidence that you'll persevere in the end!!

Thanks, sweetheart!  I feel more positive about the dream, and I fell very hopeful.  Thanks, again!  :)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 08, 2012, 10:08:29 am
Thanks, sweetheart!  I feel more positive about the dream, and I fell very hopeful.  Thanks, again!  :)

The part about the cranky babies in car seats made me smile.  :)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Luvlylittlewing on February 08, 2012, 12:24:25 pm
The part about the cranky babies in car seats made me smile.  :)

They were adorable.  I even picked up a few of them.  Strange how we make up people in our dreams!  I'd never seen any of those children before in life!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 08, 2012, 12:36:36 pm
Now I want a collapsable car! Even with a handle to carry it around. Great concept, Jeff! :)


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Folded up, it looked just like a portable massage table!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on February 08, 2012, 02:30:30 pm
I've heard that when you dream about rooms, or houses, they represent your own mind. Have you been feeling like much of your mind is occupied with boring things? But that you've been devoting part of your mind to something interesting that might somehow be symbolized by what you saw in the a large room?

As for the part with your daughter, given what's been happening with her lately it makes sense that in your dream she would cut her hair raggedly (change her identity, at least externally) and carry a weight (have a baby). But you and she are on the trek together -- you're supporting her emotionally on her journey.



   That sounds very right to me too.  Good job K.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 20, 2012, 01:59:03 pm
I had a dream last night about Judi Dench. I'm sure the fact that we were working in a department store at Christmas time is open to interpretation. Judi was playing a guitar and singing "O Holy Night" in front of an audience, and as she continued, one by one the audience got up and left, until only I remained, and then we started to talk, but I don't remember about what.

But there is no mystery as to why Judi Dench was in my mind. Yesterday I read the sad news that she is almost blind from macular degeneration--can't even read scripts anymore.  :(
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kelda on February 20, 2012, 02:28:03 pm
I had a dream last night about Judi Dench. I'm sure the fact that we were working in a department store at Christmas time is open to interpretation. Judi was playing a guitar and singing "O Holy Night" in front of an audience, and as she continued, one by one the audience got up and left, until only I remained, and then we started to talk, but I don't remember about what.

But there is no mystery as to why Judi Dench was in my mind. Yesterday I read the sad news that she is almost blind from macular degeneration--can't even read scripts anymore.  :(

wow, I didn't know that..
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 20, 2012, 04:27:25 pm
wow, I didn't know that..

Terrible, isn't it?  :(  I really came to know and love her mostly from watching "As Time Goes By" on Public TV here, and I was really sorry to read that.  :(
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on March 13, 2012, 09:09:36 am
Here's a different kind of dream interpretation. Several times lately, I've been awoken in the middle of the night -- like, 4 a.m. in the case of last night -- to a loud knocking sound, like someone's rappng on a door. It's startling and scary, because I assume someone is trying to get into my house or is already inside.

Yet then when I wait, or even get up and look around, nobody's there and the house is silent. I can only assume I dreamed the knocking. Yet it doesn't feel like part of a dream, it feels like something I actually heard that interrupted the dream.

I suppose one possible explanation is that one of my kids, whose bedrooms are on the floor above mine, got up to use the bathroom, and the knocking sound is actually them closing their door as they go back to bed.

I don't know if it would work to ask them, though, because they tend not to remember things like that the next day.



Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 13, 2012, 03:04:41 pm
Here's a different kind of dream interpretation. Several times lately, I've been awoken in the middle of the night -- like, 4 a.m. in the case of last night -- to a loud knocking sound, like someone's rappng on a door. It's startling and scary, because I assume someone is trying to get into my house or is already inside.

Yet then when I wait, or even get up and look around, nobody's there and the house is silent. I can only assume I dreamed the knocking. Yet it doesn't feel like part of a dream, it feels like something I actually heard that interrupted the dream.

I suppose one possible explanation is that one of my kids, whose bedrooms are on the floor above mine, got up to use the bathroom, and the knocking sound is actually them closing their door as they go back to bed.

I don't know if it would work to ask them, though, because they tend not to remember things like that the next day.

OK, that's spooky. Seriously spooky.  :(
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on March 13, 2012, 07:38:18 pm



   Maybe you guys could have a kind of sleep over.  Let them use sleeping bags or cots, and sleep in your room for a bit.  See is it still happens..?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 26, 2012, 10:49:49 am
THe link that started this thread doesn't seem to be working anymore. I had two scary dreams last night. In one, I was driving a bus on a windey road in the mountains. In one place on the approach to a bridge, the road had washed out and fallen into the river below. This didn't seem to bother me because I had navigated over that road several times before. I knew I had to just get up enough speed to go through the air over about 20 ft and onto the road and bridge. Also, for some reason I was standing on the roof of the bus and driving via a very long steering wheel whose column went through a hole in the roof down to the driver's seat. I thought I had enough speed to make it over the gap, but as I leaped, I saw that I was going to come up short by just a foot or so. Then the bus, instead of crashing into the cliff, began to fall down towards the green water, and I thought I might survive and so I was calm. I prepared myself to leap upward as soon as the bus touched the water, so I wouldn't be sucked down too much by the incoming waves. I actually felt a sense of calm, peace, and power as I thought I had received divine intervention in what should have been a tragedy. The bus seemed to be falling interminably, and that's when I woke up.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 26, 2012, 11:10:23 am
THe link that started this thread doesn't seem to be working anymore.

It worked for me just now.  ???

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I had two scary dreams last night. In one, I was driving a bus on a windey road in the mountains. In one place on the approach to a bridge, the road had washed out and fallen into the river below. This didn't seem to bother me because I had navigated over that road several times before. I knew I had to just get up enough speed to go through the air over about 20 ft and onto the road and bridge. Also, for some reason I was standing on the roof of the bus and driving via a very long steering wheel whose column went through a hole in the roof down to the driver's seat. I thought I had enough speed to make it over the gap, but as I leaped, I saw that I was going to come up short by just a foot or so. Then the bus, instead of crashing into the cliff, began to fall down towards the green water, and I thought I might survive and so I was calm. I prepared myself to leap upward as soon as the bus touched the water, so I wouldn't be sucked down too much by the incoming waves. I actually felt a sense of calm, peace, and power as I thought I had received divine intervention in what should have been a tragedy. The bus seemed to be falling interminably, and that's when I woke up.

What was the second scary dream?

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Also, for some reason I was standing on the roof of the bus and driving via a very long steering wheel whose column went through a hole in the roof down to the driver's seat.

This gave me a very vivid visual image of you, standing on the roof of the bus, the wind in your hair, holding onto the steering wheel like a water skier holding onto the tow rope.  :)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 26, 2012, 01:15:34 pm
Thanks, friend! Before I discuss the second scary dream, I'll try to do a little interpolatinization  8) of the first one. It's remarkable that, with all the scary elements of the dream, I didn't seem to be frightened at all. I was calm and I felt in control. Perhaps that's why the long steering wheel was such an important element. Yes, Jeff, your vision of me was exactly what I saw!!

So, what my dream seems to be telling me is that although I'm embarking on a scary journey in my life and there will be some bad things happening, I will manage to survive unharmed if I keep my wits about me. Does anyone see something different or something I've overlooked in this dream?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 26, 2012, 04:03:15 pm
Okay, my second dream was less scary. I was on "the pavement" on a median between a parking garage and a highway. The highway was really a lowway, recessed below the ground surface with retaining walls on either side. I looked across and could see nice houses lining the highway about 70 ft away, with lovely shade trees and landscaped back yards. The house directly in front of me was white with columns holding up the porch roof, and large windows on the second story.

I knew I wanted to get over there and out of the baking sun, but somehow I had to get across the busy highway and over the retaining walls. How to do it? I looked down at the cars whizzing by and thought I saw a way...some kind of pedestrian bridge. I made my way over to it but got lost in the process and found myself back at the median. Time and time again I descended into the labyrinth. One or two times I got across the highway, but still I found myself back on the median just as soon as I gained the shady perimeter of the back yard. I really should have gone back into the parking garage, got in my car, and driven to where I wanted to go, but I was too stubborn.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 09, 2014, 04:23:16 pm
Does a dream of a weddng actually signify a divorce?  ???
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 09, 2014, 05:51:14 pm
No, that does not compute. A dream of a wedding would more likely signify a coming together of ideas, opportunities, or people.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 09, 2014, 08:57:13 pm
No, that does not compute. A dream of a wedding would more likely signify a coming together of ideas, opportunities, or people.

That's a relief!  :laugh:

I was afraid that a wedding in a dream might be one of those things that signifies its opposite.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Luvlylittlewing on January 09, 2014, 10:39:32 pm
In my family we interpret our own dreams!  I love reading about dream interpretation, and I do it often, as I have a wide variety of dreams several times a night.  When one of us (family members) dreams of anything dealing with death, be it a funeral, a murder, a cemetery, whatever, that is the first sign someone - usually a family member- is pregnant.  But if the "dead dream" is followed by the "fish dream" we can be sure that a new life is coming into the world.  A few years ago my aunt dreamed that a friend had passed away.  She didn't think much of it until the next night when she dreamed she was fishing, and just "reeling them in," as she put it.  Sure enough, that next week her baby sister announced her pregnancy.  I've had the dead dream followed by the fish dream: in every instance someone came forward to tell us she is with child. 
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 13, 2014, 12:14:44 pm
Hmmm, that's interesting, Marie. The Tibetan Buddhists believed that when people died their spirits flew around a bit and were attracted to the sound of men and women making love. The spirit had the option of entering into the woman's body and thus another cycle of life in the material world began. If there is something to this idea, then the dead dream and the pregnancy announcement would make sense!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on January 18, 2014, 08:03:59 pm
A few years ago my aunt dreamed that a friend had passed away.  She didn't think much of it until the next night when she dreamed she was fishing, and just "reeling them in," as she put it.  Sure enough, that next week her baby sister announced her pregnancy.  I've had the dead dream followed by the fish dream: in every instance someone came forward to tell us she is with child.

Wow, that's cool!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 25, 2014, 10:17:53 am
Well! I had quite an interesting, and even mildly homoerotic, dream last night! And I'm pretty sure I know exactly what it inspired it, too.

In yesterday's mail, I received (already!) material about renewing my subscription to the Pennsylvania Ballet for the 2014-15 season. So, last night, I dreamed I was out drinking, as is my wont on a Saturday night ( ::) ), and I ran into two dancers from the company. There is a basis in reality here, too, as I have, on occasion met some of the guys from the company at my usual watering hole. However, on those occasions, they were never dressed to dance, as were the two in my dream, in white t-shirts, gray tights, and white slippers!  :laugh: One disappeared shortly thereafter, but the other hung around, being something of a tease, I suppose, and I remember that at one point we were both seated (on bar stools, I presume), and I was massaging his feet!  :laugh:

In the dream I could see this young fellow's face, but I didn't recognize it as the face of anybody who is actually in the PA Ballet.  ???

What a dirty old man I'm becoming, at least in my dreams!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 25, 2014, 11:28:07 am
We'll just have to start calling you Cassie!  8)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 25, 2014, 11:43:10 am
We'll just have to start calling you Cassie!  8)

Yes, but Cassie wanted the footrub from Ennis, and I was giving the dancer a foot massage. Wouldn't that make me Ennis?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 25, 2014, 01:30:23 pm
But it's so much more fun to call you Cassie!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 25, 2014, 05:21:11 pm
But it's so much more fun to call you Cassie!

Y-e-e-e-e-a-h ... no!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on February 25, 2014, 08:20:35 pm
must....not....post...her.....name!

*runs*
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 26, 2014, 09:25:50 am
Holy mackerel! Last night I had a dream about getting into an argument here on Bettermost about posts that went back years!  :o

I won't say with whom the argument was with; I don't want to start a real one!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: suelyblu on March 26, 2014, 08:04:36 pm
I went to Boarding School here in the UK ....after my mom died. This was decided by my father.

I dream I am back there some nights. It was/is a beautiful place. I remember I had a favorite tree I loved to climb there. A large old Cedar tree.Standing proud and strong. In my dream I find myself running down the forest path ...I am in tears ...broken hearted actually. I get to my favorite tree. I feel safe.I throw my arms around the expanse of trunk then I say " I won't leave you....I won't ever leave you".

 My time at the school wasn't particularly happy.........so why would I want to stay ?  :-\

I have dreamed this so many times over so many years and I have no idea what it all means !
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 26, 2014, 08:50:15 pm
suelyblu, it's clear that the cedar tree represented a haven for you, and possibly reminded you of the safety net of your parents. Even though you were unhappy at school, it was a beautiful place in the garden underneath the shelter of the tree. The sight, touch and even the smell of the cedar tree must have offered you comfort. Don't worry, you can always return there in your dreams.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 28, 2014, 10:32:02 am
Last night I had a dream that woke me up. Just a short dream where I was driving recklessly on purpose on a windy mountain road. There were no guardrails and rocks were falling both onto the road and off the edge of the road down a sheer cliff into a valley far below. Now, before you tell me to lay off the video games, I don't play them! But I did get a look at a game my son-in-law was playing yesterday. He plays "League of Legends" incessantly.

Later on I remember a snippet of a dream where my daughter was coming inside the house and stumbled over some things that looked like oval rocks. She said, "You should pick up that bread." I went over to look more carefully and they were loaves of bread that the children had taken out of the cupboard, taken one bite out of, and then threw them on the ground.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 28, 2014, 11:03:52 am
Last night I had a dream that woke me up. Just a short dream where I was driving recklessly on purpose on a windy mountain road. There were no guardrails and rocks were falling both onto the road and off the edge of the road down a sheer cliff into a valley far below.

That sounds like the Million Dollar Highway, over the mountains between Silverton and Ouray.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 31, 2014, 10:06:59 am
I had a dream last night that kind of frightens me. I saw my maternal grandmother in the dream, and I can't recall ever having seen her in a dream before.

In the dream my dad and I were driving in a car along a road near the town where he and my mother were born and raised, and where my grandmother always lived. I saw my grandmother walking by the side of the road. She was headed in the same direction as my dad and I were driving, so I didn't see her face, but I knew it was my grandmother in the way you know these things in a dream. Besides, she was wearing the sort of house dress that my grandmother always wore. Oddly, she also had a wreath of daisies on her head.

My dad was doing the driving, and I told him to stop the car, and I would get out so that my grandmother could ride with him, and I would walk the rest of the way into town. So this is what we did. My dad stopped the car, and I got out, and my grandmother got in. And that's about all I can remember. I don't remember seeing them drive off.

Why does this dream frighten me? Well, at some time before my mother died, she told me that back in 1992, when my dad was recovering from his open-heart surgery, my mother had seen my grandmother and my uncle, my mother's oldest brother, approaching the bed my mother and father shared. Mother told me that she "knew" they were coming for my dad, and so Mother said to them, "It's not his time, yet." and they went away.

So, was my grandmother coming for my father again? By getting out of the car so that she could get in with my dad, have I let her "take" him?

Incidentally, my grandmother died the day after Christmas 1980, and my uncle died in the early-mid 1970s; I forget the actual date, but it was while I was in high school.

I think I'm going to have give my dad a call, because the more I think about this, the more upset I'm making myself. And I'm not making any of this up.  :-\
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 31, 2014, 10:27:29 am
Jeff, my mother dreams often that her first husband, my father, is coming to take her to the pearly gates. The idea of a loved one escorting us to heaven is comforting; however, facing our mortality and that of our loved ones is upsetting to say the least. The Tibetans believe that in sleeping we are rehearsing for death and that in dreams we can learn much about the life beyond. Do take every chance you can to call your dad and to be with him.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 31, 2014, 10:55:06 am
Thanks, FRiend.  :)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 31, 2014, 01:33:12 pm
Well, my dad is "still here." I just talked to him.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 31, 2014, 01:57:15 pm
Good to know. I'll bet he appreciated your call.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 09, 2014, 08:47:55 pm
Oi, did I ever have one hell of a creepy dream last night. I dreamed I was married--yes, to a woman--and she was pregnant with our child. Also, she  was dressed and wore her hair like someone in the late 1960s. Her time came, but we couldn't get to a hospital on time, so she gave birth to the baby outside our house. The baby was a boy, and he was healthy, and I was ecstatically happy. We put him to sleep in what looked like one of those clear plastic shoe boxes, and he was sleeping sweetly just behind my right shoulder as we sat down to dinner in what looked the dining room of the house where I was raised. At some point I turned around to look at the baby was shocked to find that not only was he dead, he had shriveled up into this tiny, toy-like, horribly dehydrated figure.  :o  That's when I woke up and I remember no more.

Anyone care to take a crack at that one?  :-\
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 09, 2014, 09:39:39 pm

Anyone care to take a crack at that one?  :-\

Sure, I am always up for dream interpretation! This one is really quite straightforward. The baby represents some hope or dream of yours, some aspect of yourself, or perhaps a project you were doing. The fact that you were following a conventional life with a Sixties-era wife means that you felt you had to do that in order to realize your dream. You fear that your dream or project is dead but in a later dream you may find otherwise.

I used to have a somewhat similar dream where I lived in a house with a separate poolhouse. I was afraid to go to the poolhouse because I thought I had neglected it and all the plants in it would be dead. But lo and behold when I did go there (in my dream) I found a lush paradise. Someone had been taking care of the plants for me, and I still don't know who it was/is/will be!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on April 10, 2014, 07:52:49 am
Lee, I do like your explanation!  Jeff, that was one heck of a dream!

The most recent one I had was rather dumb.  In the dream I was in a recording studio listening in on Madonna and Nena recording a duet.  Never heard the song before, and can't remember how it went.  lol
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: southendmd on April 10, 2014, 08:07:03 am
The most recent one I had was rather dumb.  In the dream I was in a recording studio listening in on Madonna and Nena recording a duet.  Never heard the song before, and can't remember how it went.  lol

I'll tell you how it went:  "Like a 99 Lead Baloon Virgin".

Now that's a nightmare.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on April 10, 2014, 08:20:13 am
::)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on April 10, 2014, 08:25:08 am
I'll tell you how it went:  "Like a 99 Lead Baloon Virgin".

Now that's a nightmare.


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Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 10, 2014, 10:01:58 am
Sure, I am always up for dream interpretation! This one is really quite straightforward. The baby represents some hope or dream of yours, some aspect of yourself, or perhaps a project you were doing. The fact that you were following a conventional life with a Sixties-era wife means that you felt you had to do that in order to realize your dream. You fear that your dream or project is dead but in a later dream you may find otherwise.

Thanks, FRiend! That makes it a lot less upsetting!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 05, 2014, 09:40:24 am
Boyoboyoboy, did I ever have the dream last night! It was the longest, sustained dream I've had in a very long time! I can remember a lot of it, too, though perhaps in disjointed pieces.

I was visiting the college where I earned my B.A, and where I haven't been back in, oh, 30 years. I was supposed to visit with some administrator about something--I don't know or don't remember what--but I was dressed very casually in a t-shirt and shorts. He was very busy, and so people whose business was more important than mine kept getting sent into his office ahead of me. While I was waiting, I had a short conversation with a young woman whom I recognized from my days in the SCA medieval reenactment organization; our talk concerned me participating in some sort of demonstration that was to take place on campus.

Finally I got into the administrator's office, and we chatted a bit about how much construction had taken place on the campus in the three decades since I graduated, so that I hardly recognized the place. Meanwhile, the weather was turning bad very quickly, and in the distance I could see a tornado forming, one of those horrible, mile-wide ones that you occasionally see news film of that are so destructive. You're not supposed to try to outrun one of those things, yet that's exactly what we tried to do. The administrator and I, and a number of other people, squeezed into a very small automobile and drove away from campus. The administrator was driving; somehow his clothing had changed from a dark gray suit to a polo shirt and Dockers.

We did outrun the storm, and finally we stopped. Other tornadoes were still forming in the distance. Looking to the east--I don't know why I know it was the east, it just was--I saw one pass behind an old farmhouse, and the house somehow immediately burst into flames! At about that time, I also used my cell phone to call my mother (who has been dead since 1995) to tell her that I was all right; the connection was bad but I did speak to her. Then we all got back into the car to drive back to campus. On the way, the driver missed a sharp curve in the road and drove through a fence and into the farmyard of an Amish farm. Some Amish chidren came and spoke to us; I rolled down the car window and spoke to a little boy, and I remember thinking that someone in the family must have "married out" of the Amish faith, because this little boy looked Hispanic in features and skin tone. The children told us that we would be in trouble for damaging the fence, but then a young woman came out of the farmhouse and told us that everything would be all right.

I remember that we then continued our drive back to campus. When we arrived, I could still see storms in the distance, but that's all I can now remember.

What a night!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on June 05, 2014, 08:04:49 pm
Wow!  Crazy dream there!   Nice detail-remembering.  Sometimes I can remember mine, other times, not so much.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 05, 2014, 09:20:13 pm
What an interesting dream...thank you for sharing it with us! I have had dreams that were a bit similar that marked turning points for me. Let us know if you want us to take a hack at transcribing the dream for you.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 05, 2014, 10:35:13 pm
One general thing I would like to say is that when we enter the third chapter of our lives (chapter one being childhood and young adulthood, chapter two being adulthood, and chapter three being later adulthood) it is entirely good to revisit the dreams and goals of our youth and see what is still valid, what should be tossed away, and what should be revisited.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 06, 2014, 09:10:09 am
What an interesting dream...thank you for sharing it with us! I have had dreams that were a bit similar that marked turning points for me. Let us know if you want us to take a hack at transcribing the dream for you.

Actually, I can speculate myself as to the origin of some of the elements of the dream.

First of all, since childhood whenever I have been partcularly stressed or anxious, I have dreamed of tornadoes (I was frightened by the "twister" scenes in The Wizrd of Oz, and by news of some of the severe tornado outbreaks that occurred when I was a child). Right now I am very stressed out by all the things that are happening or are supposed to happen in my life this year.

I can't be so sure about the visit to my alma mater; however, one of my colleagues here at work has a daughter graduating from high school this weekend, so perhaps that has something to do with provoking that part of the dream.

I think I know exactly where the Amish came from. That evening I was channel surfing and came across a TV show about people who had left the Amish faith and then returned to their communities. As a matter of fact, one young fellow in the program said he had grown up Amish in Holmes County, Ohio, where our friend OCD used to live!

The SCA connection probably arises from that wedding I've been pissing and moaning about on my blog, since that's how I know both grooms--though why that particular young lady, whom I recognized but really am not acquainted with, should show up in the dream, I have no idea.  :-\

I'm similarly clueless about cell phoning my late mother. The idea that the connection was bad and I could barely hear her is interesting. :-\

The notion of "storms in the distance" intrigues me, too. Any thoughts about that?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 06, 2014, 09:34:00 am
... in the distance I could see a tornado forming, one of those horrible, mile-wide ones that you occasionally see news film of that are so destructive. You're not supposed to try to outrun one of those things, yet that's exactly what we tried to do. The administrator and I, and a number of other people, squeezed into a very small automobile and drove away from campus. The administrator was driving; somehow his clothing had changed from a dark gray suit to a polo shirt and Dockers.

Putting on my amateur pop psychologist hat (a beanie, I suppose) I would like to postulate that you are reliving in your dream your journey through life thus far from your college graduation. You ventured out into the scary world, surrounded by strangers and the occasional authoritarian figure. When you started out, bosses and such used to wear suits, but times have changed and they now wear polo shirts and Dockers.

We did outrun the storm, and finally we stopped. Other tornadoes were still forming in the distance. Looking to the east--I don't know why I know it was the east, it just was--I saw one pass behind an old farmhouse, and the house somehow immediately burst into flames!

The east represents the future. Looking to the future, you see the old agrarian lifestyle going literally up in flames, or at least you fear that is what will happen.

At about that time, I also used my cell phone to call my mother (who has been dead since 1995) to tell her that I was all right; the connection was bad but I did speak to her. Then we all got back into the car to drive back to campus. On the way, the driver missed a sharp curve in the road and drove through a fence and into the farmyard of an Amish farm. Some Amish children came and spoke to us; I rolled down the car window and spoke to a little boy, and I remember thinking that someone in the family must have "married out" of the Amish faith, because this little boy looked Hispanic in features and skin tone. The children told us that we would be in trouble for damaging the fence, but then a young woman came out of the farmhouse and told us that everything would be all right.

Maybe your mother and the other two women in your dream are roughly the same, or serve the same purpose. Watching over you, guiding you, reassuring you in your scary journey. I'm curious as to what you said to the Amish boy?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 06, 2014, 09:44:32 am
I'm curious as to what you said to the Amish boy?

I don't remember.  :(

Funny that "east" should represent the future. I should have thought that "west" would represent the future.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 06, 2014, 10:11:02 am
What do you think you might have said to him? Hello, sonny? Oops, I'm sorry? Can you tell me the way to San Jose?  ;)

I can see your point of view about east/west, but east is where the sun comes up and where tomorrow is already happening.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 06, 2014, 11:50:15 am
What do you think you might have said to him? Hello, sonny? Oops, I'm sorry? Can you tell me the way to San Jose?  ;)

I just don't know. Watching him is like watching TV with the sound off, and I can't read lips.  :(

I can see your point of view about east/west, but east is where the sun comes up and where tomorrow is already happening.

That's an interesting take on it.  :)

"After all, tomorrow is another day!"  ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on June 06, 2014, 11:56:23 pm
I can see your point of view about east/west, but east is where the sun comes up and where tomorrow is already happening.

That's an interesting take on it.  :)

"After all, tomorrow is another day!"  ;D


I took it the same way,  sun rises in the east (new beginning) and sets in the west (an ending)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 07, 2014, 12:42:32 pm
I took it the same way,  sun rises in the east (new beginning) and sets in the west (an ending)

Sure enough. I just tend to look at the way people have looked at it since the first Europeans took ship to cross the Atlantic--from east to west--to begin new lives in America: The West means a new start and a new life.

But I'm looking at things in a more literal sense, I suppose.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 07, 2014, 05:20:40 pm
I just don't know. Watching him is like watching TV with the sound off, and I can't read lips.  :(


You might get some insight if you try to have the dream again and pay special attention to what you say to the little boy. If you can't redream it, you could try just meditating on it.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 07, 2014, 08:00:56 pm
You might get some insight if you try to have the dream again and pay special attention to what you say to the little boy. If you can't redream it, you could try just meditating on it.

I expect you're right about that, but, on the other hand, I doubt it had any real significance.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 08, 2014, 08:21:04 pm
I expect you're right about that, but, on the other hand, I doubt it had any real significance.

"the lady doth protest too much, methinks"
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 10, 2014, 11:22:31 am
To give an idea about the importance of little things in dreams, I used to have a recurring dream where I was at a Bates Motel-like resort where I was to show Brokeback Mountain to an audience in a theater. I was trying to start the movie on a huge TV set rather than a screen, and I had to have a remote control because I couldn't reach the dials. I went back to my motel room to get the remote. I was driving a white Honda and it was pouring down rain. I got the remote and started back to the theater but got stuck on a bridge. There was a large white drainpipe under the bridge. The bridge was partly washed out and I was high centered in my rental car. I opened the door and looked down and I could see water rushing under the bridge through the broken wood slats. I was able to leave the car and walk to safety and up to the theater. Then I woke up. But, something bothered me....did I put the remote in my pocket when I left the car, or did I leave it on the seat?

I ended up going back and redreaming, and I found out that, yes, I did take the remote with me. I'll post again soon and explain why this was so important.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 10, 2014, 11:28:03 am
But first, I'll take guesses! What is the significance of the remote? Any Jungians around here?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 10, 2014, 11:58:26 am
But first, I'll take guesses! What is the significance of the remote? Any Jungians around here?

I don't know nuthin' 'bout no Jungians, but I can imagine what a Freudian might say.  :(
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Luvlylittlewing on June 10, 2014, 08:28:58 pm
Can someone help me sort this out?  I've had very vivid, colorful dreams as long as I can remember, but this dream is probably the weirdest I've ever experienced:

I'm sort of an observer at a wedding.  I don't remember being invited to a wedding, I never actually enter the church, and I don't know the couple getting married.  In fact, I stand near the steps to the church where several bridesmaids dressed in pink suits with thigh-high skirts, and carrying pink carnations, are lining up to enter the church.  Each young woman is more beautiful than the next and they're chatting excitedly among themselves.

At this point the scene changes dramatically: I'm in a pawn shop and a man I don't know is at the counter trying to sell a huge python to the clerk, or pawn shop owner.  I've never seen the man before -- he was kind or ordinary: very tall, pale, balding, and wearing a sharp gray suit.  The fact that he was trying to pawn or sell a python was odd enough, but when he held the serpent up high by its head and the tail, the snake's body doubled up (no other way to describe it) and when the snake's body folded in on itself it formed a pattern like a granny square blanket.  The design was beautiful, but how bizarre!  The strange thing was that no one in the shop seemed afraid, or surprised that the snake used its body to formed a pattern.  The pawn shop clerk/owner was not interested, and the man was disappointed.

I know weddings and snakes are common in dreams, but these images seem crazy.  Any ideas?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 10, 2014, 08:53:32 pm
Oh boy, this is exciting! I will have to ponder your dream for a while but here is something I offer for starters.

Dreaming of snakes is one of the most common animal dreams. It is commonly associated with menace, danger, and sin, but there is a more ancient association. The snake is primitively associated with the female force. Thus, we see the ancient Cretan goddess with snakes in her hands. The snake is associated with the movement of a female during sex, a back-and-forth, undulating motion. It is a primordial symbol and motion. Many people are afraid of snakes and the symbolic reference to them, but others embrace the snake symbology as a powerful force of creation.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Luvlylittlewing on June 10, 2014, 08:59:02 pm
Thanks, Babe, for your speedy reply.  I've read that snakes also represent transformation and healing.  I'm excited to read your further interpretation.  No rush -- I'm not going anywhere.   :)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on June 10, 2014, 09:39:22 pm
The last dream I can remember was me running around, warning people of an insane, machete wielding woman.

No one would pay attention to me, so I ran to warn others, those who didn't listen were met but the machete wielding woman, who hacked them up.  I didn't see that part, but heard the screams.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 10, 2014, 10:54:57 pm
To give an idea about the importance of little things in dreams, I used to have a recurring dream where I was at a Bates Motel-like resort where I was to show Brokeback Mountain to an audience in a theater. I was trying to start the movie on a huge TV set rather than a screen, and I had to have a remote control because I couldn't reach the dials. I went back to my motel room to get the remote. I was driving a white Honda and it was pouring down rain. I got the remote and started back to the theater but got stuck on a bridge. There was a large white drainpipe under the bridge. The bridge was partly washed out and I was high centered in my rental car. I opened the door and looked down and I could see water rushing under the bridge through the broken wood slats. I was able to leave the car and walk to safety and up to the theater. Then I woke up. But, something bothered me....did I put the remote in my pocket when I left the car, or did I leave it on the seat?

I ended up going back and redreaming, and I found out that, yes, I did take the remote with me. I'll post again soon and explain why this was so important.

What does a remote do? It powers controls the TV set. When you went back to the motel room to get the remote, you were returning to a place and/or time when you had power, or authority control over your own life. By taking the remote with you, you were regaining your power control--my guess would be power control over your own life. Getting stuck probably has something to do with how long it's taking to sell the house, and you can't move on forward with your life until it's sold.

These are my guesses, anyway.

ETA: Note the edits (strike-throughs, italics). After a night's sleep, control seemed to be a better word to express my meaning than power. A remote controls the TV.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 10, 2014, 10:57:08 pm
The last dream I can remember was me running around, warning people of an insane, machete wielding woman.

Anybody we know?  ;D

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No one would pay attention to me, so I ran to warn others, those who didn't listen were met but the machete wielding woman, who hacked them up.  I didn't see that part, but heard the screams.

I think your dream just means ... you've watched too many episodes of The Walking Dead.  ;D  :-*
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 11, 2014, 03:58:52 am
Here's a quote from an interesting book titled The Dream Game, by Anne Faraday, Ph.D. "For [Jung] the snake was just such an "archetypal" symbol, expressing man's deepest awareness of the life-energy of nature, of which sex could be seen as one aspect, temptation another, and healing another, while the most profound of all would be the ancient symbol of the snake swallowing its tail, the Ouroboros, which expresses the way the life force in nature feeds on itself and renews itself eternally."
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 11, 2014, 09:21:00 am
Didn't the snake bring messages from the Goddess to her priestesses?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 11, 2014, 10:08:02 am
Yes, Jeff, that is another possible explanation. In fact, luvly's snake seems to be sending signals by doubling up its body. The man and the pawnbroker missed the whole meaning of the creature and were put off by it, but you saw its true meaning and value.

I was thinking about the significance of the wedding last night. Since it was between two people who you didn't know, the wedding could be about some ideas or projects that are starting. Weddings mean many things--ideas coming together, new starts, holiness, ritual, promises. Do any of these resonate with you, Marie?

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 11, 2014, 10:16:07 am
What does a remote do? It powers controls the TV set. When you went back to the motel room to get the remote, you were returning to a place and/or time when you had power, or authority control over your own life. By taking the remote with you, you were regaining your power control--my guess would be power control over your own life. Getting stuck probably has something to do with how long it's taking to sell the house, and you can't move on forward with your life until it's sold.

Jeff, this is a very astute interpretation. I am very impressed! Especially about the remote! Also, about being stuck, that would explain why I've been thinking about that dream lately, even though I first dreamed it in late 2007. The dream has helped me through some difficult experiences since then, and it is newly relevant.

After mulling over the "Bates Motel" dream for a week or so, I had an epiphany. I saw the white Honda, the big drainpipe and the remote standing in for three of my closest friends. At the time, I was about to enter into a home purchase with Rodney. He wanted to purchase a home in Denver but wasn't able to get a mortgage, so I bought the home with him. I was secretly afraid that it would lead to problems, which it did. The big drainpipe represented EDelMar, upon which Rodney would get stuck, but I managed to extricate myself. The remote? It represented a dear friend who is truly remote, off in faraway Boston, Peter, who provided good advice and a 30,000 ft view of the situation.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 11, 2014, 11:10:28 am
Yes, Jeff, that is another possible explanation. In fact, luvly's snake seems to be sending signals by doubling up its body. The man and the pawnbroker missed the whole meaning of the creature and were put off by it, but you saw its true meaning and value.

Thank you, but I won't claim credit for being that clever about the snake. I just thought I remembered reading that about snakes in Mary Renault.

Jeff, this is a very astute interpretation. I am very impressed! Especially about the remote!

Thank you. Clearly, it took a while, and then there was the word-finding difficulty (power vs. control). Seemed more relevant to what I know of your life at this time than a more Freudian interpretation, would probably would want to see the remote as a penis.  :P
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on June 11, 2014, 04:49:14 pm
Anybody we know?  ;D

I didn't recognize her.   :laugh:

I think your dream just means ... you've watched too many episodes of The Walking Dead.  ;D  :-*

That show hasn't been on since March 30th, and I'm not watching reruns.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 11, 2014, 07:15:41 pm
One last thing about snakes...because they shed their skin as they grow, snakes are symbols of renewal and resurrection. Snakes have acquired many properties, both good and bad, over the centuries.

Chuck, in your dream about the insane, machete wielding woman, it sounds very much like Kali, goddess of destruction.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Luvlylittlewing on June 11, 2014, 09:42:28 pm
Yes, Jeff, that is another possible explanation. In fact, luvly's snake seems to be sending signals by doubling up its body. The man and the pawnbroker missed the whole meaning of the creature and were put off by it, but you saw its true meaning and value.

I was thinking about the significance of the wedding last night. Since it was between two people who you didn't know, the wedding could be about some ideas or projects that are starting. Weddings mean many things--ideas coming together, new starts, holiness, ritual, promises. Do any of these resonate with you, Marie?



Hey there!  Thanks for the further insight.  You could be right about the wedding symbolism: I'm hoping that after years of hardship and reversals that my life is changing for the better.  My daughter, who has had many health problems in the past, is graduating from college this Saturday and that signifies a fresh start.  I seem to be moving ahead at my work, and everyone I know is progressing.  Perhaps I'm moving toward that light at the end of the tunnel.  I hope so, anyway.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 11, 2014, 10:28:15 pm
My daughter, who has had many health problems in the past, is graduating from college this Saturday and that signifies a fresh start. 


Congratulations to both of you!!!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 12, 2014, 09:02:09 am
Congratulations to both of you!!!

Ditto!  :D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 12, 2014, 01:56:49 pm
Going back to both Chuck's and Jeff's dreams, there are a couple of similarities. In both dreams there is an element of chaos and destruction, e.g. the tornado and the insane, ax-wielding woman. From your writings elsewhere, it seems to me that you both like a calm, well-ordered life and surroundings. But both of you have to deal with uncertainty and approaching instability, as well as upheaval. Jeff, you are planning some redecorating and Chuck, you have swarms of bees invading your apartment. It's understandable that strange dreams would ensue!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on June 12, 2014, 05:35:06 pm
Going back to both Chuck's and Jeff's dreams, there are a couple of similarities. In both dreams there is an element of chaos and destruction, e.g. the tornado and the insane, ax-wielding woman. From your writings elsewhere, it seems to me that you both like a calm, well-ordered life and surroundings. But both of you have to deal with uncertainty and approaching instability, as well as upheaval. Jeff, you are planning some redecorating and Chuck, you have swarms of bees invading your apartment. It's understandable that strange dreams would ensue!

very cool analysis, Lee!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on June 12, 2014, 05:36:17 pm
Chuck, in your dream about the insane, machete wielding woman, it sounds very much like Kali, goddess of destruction.


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Kali_by_Raja_Ravi_Varma.jpg)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 12, 2014, 05:39:34 pm

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Kali_by_Raja_Ravi_Varma.jpg)

Eeeew.  :P
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on June 12, 2014, 05:42:45 pm
scarier than any zombie I've ever seen!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Luvlylittlewing on June 12, 2014, 07:56:07 pm
Congratulations to both of you!!!

Thanks!  We're both very excited.  :)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Luvlylittlewing on June 12, 2014, 07:57:24 pm
Ditto!  :D

Thanks, sweetheart!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on June 13, 2014, 09:17:25 pm
My daughter, who has had many health problems in the past, is graduating from college this Saturday and that signifies a fresh start.  I seem to be moving ahead at my work, and everyone I know is progressing.  Perhaps I'm moving toward that light at the end of the tunnel.  I hope so, anyway.


So good to read this!!!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 25, 2014, 02:06:21 pm
I had a long complex dream the other night but the only thing I can remember clearly from it is that someone handed me several tubes of Tom's of Maine lip balm, which I accepted. How strange! I dare anyone to interpret this one!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 25, 2014, 02:11:49 pm
Last night I dreamt that I was going back to work at the job I lost 13 years ago.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on June 25, 2014, 05:31:54 pm
How funny Jeff, as I just had a dream that I was going back to a teller position.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 07, 2014, 09:44:04 am
Well! The past few days--or nights--have been humdingers for odd dreams!

The first night I slept at my dad's house for the holiday weekend, I saw my mother in a dream. In the first place, I very rarely dream about my mother, but the really odd thing about this dream, is that when I do dream about her, I usually don't see her face. She often has her back to me, and I hear her voice, but I don't see her face. What was so odd about this most recent dream is that for a change, I did see her face.

I opened my eyes, and I was conscious of being in bed in the room at my dad's house where I sleep, and Mother was standing there looking down at me. I couldn't make out if she was wearing a housecoat, or if she was wearing the suit we buried her in, but she was standing there looking down at me. She didn't say anything, just looked down at me. I closed my eyes, and she was gone.

Then, just last night, I saw four different classmates from high school. I have no idea why. I haven't seen any of them since graduation--in 1976 :o --and they were not people I was close to in school. But I saw them in a dream last night.  :-\
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 07, 2014, 12:00:36 pm
Hi, Jeff, welcome back! We missed you!

I feel that you have summoned the spirit of your Mom and want to get some kind of answer or advice from her but are not quite ready to hear it yet. Your desire, however, is very strong and you will continue on this nocturnal quest until your mother speaks to you or you find the answer you are looking for. The time period you are looking in is around graduation, your college years and the start of your career. Something happened around that time and perhaps something remains unresolved so in your dreams you are going back to review that time period. Maybe you are mulling over a career change or other change in the direction of your life.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 07, 2014, 12:20:37 pm
Hi, Jeff, welcome back! We missed you!

I feel that you have summoned the spirit of your Mom and want to get some kind of answer or advice from her but are not quite ready to hear it yet. Your desire, however, is very strong and you will continue on this nocturnal quest until your mother speaks to you or you find the answer you are looking for. The time period you are looking in is around graduation, your college years and the start of your career. Something happened around that time and perhaps something remains unresolved so in your dreams you are going back to review that time period. Maybe you are mulling over a career change or other change in the direction of your life.

So you feel the dreams are connected? That's interesting--I hadn't thought of that possibility. Thanks!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 08, 2014, 12:26:00 pm
Certainly they're connected by a common theme: revisiting your past. The fact that you knew you were sleeping and where you were in your dream where you saw your mother's face shows you are developing your lucid dreaming skills and having more of a say in what you will dream. Also, that you were able to look into your mother's face and recognize her shows that you are getting closer to the information you are looking for. Your mother is a metaphor for your deepest, truest self, the self that you had within you as you were just starting out in your adult life, and which abides in you still.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 08, 2014, 01:36:42 pm
Well, you may be right. I'm more inclined to believe she came for me, as my grandmother and my uncle once came for my father, and then changed her mind and decided it's not yet time for me to die, probably because I need to look after my dad.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 08, 2014, 02:41:11 pm
I've heard of this belief before, in fact, my mother says she often dreams that her first husband, my father, is coming to get her and usher her to heaven. It is very comforting to know that our loved ones are watching out for us and are able to guide us along a scary path safely. Or, it could be kind of creepy. The way you describe your mother looking down on you in the bed without speaking seems a little ominous to me, but it might be reassuring. I haven't ever had such a dream that I can recall.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 08, 2014, 04:30:23 pm
I've heard of this belief before, in fact, my mother says she often dreams that her first husband, my father, is coming to get her and usher her to heaven. It is very comforting to know that our loved ones are watching out for us and are able to guide us along a scary path safely. Or, it could be kind of creepy. The way you describe your mother looking down on you in the bed without speaking seems a little ominous to me, but it might be reassuring. I haven't ever had such a dream that I can recall.

She looked like she was thinking really hard about something. You know, how we sometimes frown when we're trying to concentrate really hard on something really difficult. I wasn't scared, though--this wasn't a nightmare. It was my mother, after all.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on July 12, 2014, 08:49:29 pm
I had a crazy Brokie dream not long ago.  I don't have time to post it now, but I will soon.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on July 13, 2014, 06:12:05 pm
Ok, so not long ago I had a dream.

There was a large Brokie gathering, I don't recall where it was, but the location had a 'ghost town' or 'old western' type feel.  There were a number of original Brokies there, but there were also 'new comers' there as well, those who had never been to a gathering, or those who had never been Brokies before, only just recently seeing the movie.

The main two people who had worked the most at this gathering were Lee and Adam, and the first meeting day came, and we had all gathered together to meet up.  Adam and Lee excused themselves to prepare some sort of surprise, and while they were gone, a newer Brokie asked that we say a prayer to begin the festivities.  At that point some bickering began, over who should say the prayer, and what type of prayer should be said.  I stepped in to try to calm nerves down, but things only got worse, and it ended up in a big argument.  As everyone was fighting, Lee and Adam came back, and asked me what happened.  With everyone yelling, I just looked at them and said "There is no more Brokeback Mountain" and stormed off.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 13, 2014, 07:37:45 pm
Well, that's a depressing dream. So sorry you had a dream like that.  :(
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on July 13, 2014, 07:50:26 pm
well, they can't all be happy!  ;)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 14, 2014, 09:16:36 am
Chuck, you have always been the peacemaker in many a situation. There was an incident a little like that on one of our trips. Rodney was to do a reading from the book at the Virginian Hotel in Buffalo and we had all had a long day (some of it quite muddy) and I think some people were much more interested in the movie than the book. Everybody politely listened and then we all took off for Riverton, arriving late at night! I wouldn't have been surprised if people had asked for the itinerary to be revised after that day!

And there was another incident in Goff Creek where Adam, the other Chuck, and I took quite a while setting up a super-duper sound system so we could watch Close Encounters of the Third Kind before going off to Devils Tower the next day. A few of the people decided to go into the next room and watch a different movie rather than wait. Come to think of it, our trips were often teetering on the brink of disaster, but I wouldn't change one moment!

Maybe you are a little nervous over planning for the 10-year anniversary that is coming next year, and not wanting to be in the position that Adam and I were in as organizers. Don't worry, it will work out splendidly! I am here to offer advice if wanted...based on prior experience I would say it's best to underplan rather than overplan.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 14, 2014, 12:09:02 pm
Maybe you are a little nervous over planning for the 10-year anniversary that is coming next year, and not wanting to be in the position that Adam and I were in as organizers. Don't worry, it will work out splendidly! I am here to offer advice if wanted...based on prior experience I would say it's best to underplan rather than overplan.

I hope this wasn't supposed to be a secret.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 14, 2014, 01:23:09 pm
No the 10th anniversary of the movie is no secret, Jeff. But that does remind me of something else that happened. . . before the BBQ, there was a splinter group that was planning to camp out in or near Rocky Mountain National Park and crash the BBQ and other events to avoid paying, I guess, or just to be ornery or whatever. But in the end, the only person who crashed the event was Dave Cullen.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 14, 2014, 01:28:39 pm
No the 10th anniversary of the movie is no secret, Jeff. But that does remind me of something else that happened. . . before the BBQ, there was a splinter group that was planning to camp out in or near Rocky Mountain National Park and crash the BBQ and other events to avoid paying, I guess, or just to be ornery or whatever. But in the end, the only person who crashed the event was Dave Cullen.

Well, presumably it doesn't take higher math skills to figure out that 2015 is ten years since 2005.

But if whatever is being planned to commemorate the tenth anniversary was supposed to be a secret, the Bettermost Beans that something is being planned have now been spilled.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 14, 2014, 02:30:05 pm
But if whatever is being planned to commemorate the tenth anniversary was supposed to be a secret, the Bettermost Beans that something is being planned have now been spilled.

Jeff, I don't talk about secret meetings. I would probably be excluded from any secret meetings anyway, so wouldn't know about them. I am talking about a celebration that is open to all for which Chuck and others have asked for ideas about location.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 14, 2014, 02:55:25 pm
Jeff, I don't talk about secret meetings. I would probably be excluded from any secret meetings anyway, so wouldn't know about them. I am talking about a celebration that is open to all for which Chuck and others have asked for ideas about location.

Why would you be exluded? You have valuable experience at planning this sort of thing!  ???
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 14, 2014, 03:21:04 pm
Well, it might be that just a small group want to get together, or a subgroup, such as Bears of Brokeback, or something like that. (I don't even know if such a group exists!)

Let's get back to the subject of dreams...I'm afraid we'll make Chuck even more nervous if we keep going on this way!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 14, 2014, 03:39:00 pm
Well, it might be that just a small group want to get together, or a subgroup, such as Bears of Brokeback, or something like that. (I don't even know if such a group exists!)

Let's get back to the subject of dreams...I'm afraid we'll make Chuck even more nervous if we keep going on this way!

He can handle it. He's a Jersey boy.  ;D

The way he got those vehicles out of the mud and snow and ice, this ought to be a piece of (cherry) cake.

(((Chuck)))  :-*
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on July 14, 2014, 04:52:16 pm
Nuthing to be afraid of here, and no secrets, but at the moment, no solid plans either, so no one is missing anything. 
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 21, 2014, 01:49:55 pm
Last night was another for an odd and extended dream. I saw my mother again, and I'm sure she spoke to me, but I'm afraid I can't remember what she said; I'm sure it wasn't anything portentous.

The whole family was back in the house where I was raised. Mother was making me breakfast, a couple of "dippy" eggs. One egg was quite normal looking, but the other was sky-blue! (No blue ham to go with it, however.  8) ) I think she was making me breakfast before I had to leave for school. It was raining heavily outside, and I was having difficulty deciding what shoes to wear because of the weather. I also remember saying something to my mother about having to take a train and then a bus to get to school, and that I couldn't remember the route number of the bus I needed to take.

Then I was standing with my dad in my parents' bedroom, looking down at the street as the rain continued to fall. I remember my dad saying something to me about "my people," but I can't remember exactly what he was saying. I do remember wondering if by "my people" he meant gay people.  ???

It seems remarkable and portentous to me that I should have two dreams about my mother that I remember fairly close together.  ???
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 22, 2014, 06:51:01 pm
Hey, friend. When you can't hear or can't remember what your parents are saying in your dream, that means that you're not ready to hear the message yet. You can perhaps search within yourself to determine why or if the message is there already. As Glinda famously said, "You had it in your power all along."

Shoes, trains, buses, roads, etc. all refer to your life journey and the choices you have had to make at each junction of the journey. The fact that you were standing with your dad in your parents' bedroom when he said "your people" means, yes, he is referring to gay people.

The two eggs, one normal, one weird, stand for choices made in life. Eggs symbolize beginnings and potentials. The rain refers to "wet" things, things having to do with feelings and deeply held beliefs and needs.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 22, 2014, 07:14:36 pm
The fact that you were standing with your dad in your parents' bedroom when he said "your people" means, yes, he is referring to gay people.

But what has my parents' bedroom got to do with gay people?

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The rain refers to "wet" things, things having to do with feelings and deeply held beliefs and needs.

What makes those things "wet" things?  ???
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 22, 2014, 07:38:59 pm
The bedroom is where one typically has sex, so the location indicates he and you were talking about sexual things. It was raining in your dream, which indicates that it has to do with "wet" ideas, or things that might cause a person to shed tears.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 23, 2014, 09:10:33 am
It was raining in your dream, which indicates that it has to do with "wet" ideas, or things that might cause a person to shed tears.

That makes sense.

A couple of odd fragments from last night.

The first had to do with a footprint, and analyzing it, and what it meant. That's all I remember of it.

I remember more of the second. I was in my home church, sitting in a back corner that put me directly in line with the pulpit. I looked to my right and saw my dad sitting by himself in the rear pew, and looking much younger than he actually is, pretty much as he looked in my favorite of our family portraits, which was taken about 1973 or so. So I went and sat next to him, and that was that.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 24, 2014, 11:26:34 am
OK, this is starting to spook me. It seems like I've gone years on years with rarely having dreams I remember, and just as rarely dreaming about my mother. Now all of the sudden I'm remembering lots of dreams and from almost every night? What's up with that?  ???

Last night I was back in my home county once again. I saw both my mother and my father, though I don't remember anything they may have said to me. I remember that I needed to make a drive to a bank and to a K-Mart ( :laugh: ), and that somehow, without knowing it, I had driven around in a circle; I remember passing a particular landmark, an old stone house on a dirt road out in the country, and then coming past the house again and realizing that without realizing it I had driven in a circle. This time I stopped at the house and went inside to use the bathroom to take a leak ( ;D ); the bathroom looked like the kind of restroom facility you might see in a park or some public place, with a concrete floor, a couple of urinals, and a stall or two.  ???

Thank goodness that part of the dream didn't mean I was peeing my bed!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 24, 2014, 03:54:06 pm
OK, this is starting to spook me. It seems like I've gone years on years with rarely having dreams I remember, and just as rarely dreaming about my mother. Now all of the sudden I'm remembering lots of dreams and from almost every night? What's up with that? 
It could be that you have just gotten "tuned in" to this method of communicating with yourself. Or it could be that you are searching in your dreams for something that your subconscious mind feels is very important.

I remember that I needed to make a drive to a bank and to a K-Mart ( :laugh: ), and that somehow, without knowing it, I had driven around in a circle; I remember passing a particular landmark, an old stone house on a dirt road out in the country, and then coming past the house again and realizing that without realizing it I had driven in a circle.
Clearly this seems to speak to the fact that you are going about your everyday life, making money and spending it on consumer goods and you realize that you're going around in circles doing the same thing, day in, day out, year in, year out. But there is a landmark or milestone that stands out and makes you notice the repetitiveness of this behavior.

This time I stopped at the house and went inside to use the bathroom to take a leak ( ;D ); the bathroom looked like the kind of restroom facility you might see in a park or some public place, with a concrete floor, a couple of urinals, and a stall or two. 
In my dreams I sometimes visit such a place that has a lot of stone and water and sometimes has a fetid odor. It's dark in there and maybe a bit mossy. I call it "the grotto." It's like going back to a more primitive time or to a more primordial state of existence. Being a wet place, you're visiting it to address feelings and deeply held beliefs.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 24, 2014, 04:09:09 pm
It could be that you have just gotten "tuned in" to this method of communicating with yourself. Or it could be that you are searching in your dreams for something that your subconscious mind feels is very important.

Well, whatever it means, it's scaring me.  :(  I'd rather not be dreaming about my dead mother so shortly before I have to get on an airplane.  :(

I just hope that restroom isn't another sex thing. That would be creepy.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on July 24, 2014, 05:04:05 pm
I just hope that restroom isn't another sex thing. That would be creepy.

:laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 24, 2014, 08:28:12 pm
:laugh:

 ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 25, 2014, 09:56:54 am
Well, it seems to me there was something of an automobile theme at work in my dreams last night.

First, I still owned an automobile, and I was driving around my home town. I saw the two handsome young men who often sit behind me in church, and we all waved to each other. Then I parked the car on the street where I grew up and went into the house where I grew up. Later my mother (here we are with my mother again!) and I came out to go some place, and I could not find the car! We looked up and down the street, and then we even checked in a rented garage. In the garage there was a car covered with a tarp, but when we removed the tarp, it wasn't my car.  >:(  Again I do not remember my mother saying anything.  ???

Later, I was taking a cab from the airport to my destination on my ramble tomorrow. The cab ride was very expensive, but when we arrived, the driver refused to accept good ol' American currency!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 26, 2014, 10:35:12 am
I just can't resist a little more dream interpolation. It's interesting that in your earlier car, it works properly and gets you around to see key people and places. Later, there is a car in your garage but it isn't your car. Then, finally, you are in a cab and the price is too dear. This reminds me so much of the bucket imagery for Ennis in the BBM movie.

I think the car is your time machine but it's even more than that. It's the vehicle of your life's journey and it holds you and your choices in life and your hopes and dreams.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 27, 2014, 09:55:42 am
At this link is a fascinating discussion about dreams that includes a dramatization of my ancestor Robert Louis Stevenson's essay on how he used dreams to create his stories.

http://www.radiolab.org/story/91498-the-story-of-me/ (http://www.radiolab.org/story/91498-the-story-of-me/)

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 01, 2014, 01:57:04 pm
I think the car is your time machine but it's even more than that. It's the vehicle of your life's journey and it holds you and your choices in life and your hopes and dreams.

If that's true, and that seems logical, then it's somewhat alarming that the car disappears and I can't find it.  :o

Meanwhile, it seems like my dreams are just getting stranger and stranger. I'm not going into what I remember from last night, which, in any case, isn't a whole lot, but what I do remember is kind of a mixture of sex and nostalgia.  ???  :laugh:

It might could just mean that I'm missing my youth.  :(
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 02, 2014, 09:55:01 am
If that's true, and that seems logical, then it's somewhat alarming that the car disappears and I can't find it.  :o


Isn't that pretty much a universal truth though? In middle life, we lose track of the plans and dreams we had in our youth. In some of my dreams, I am searching for that lost thing, that gleam I once had in my eye. Perhaps in the story of Brokeback Mountain, Ennis was almost ready at the end to revive the dream of his youth to live true to his authentic self. Jack was robbed of that chance. One of the lessons to take from the movie, and from our searching dreams is to take every opportunity to revive our youth and pursue those dreams.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 02, 2014, 11:42:47 am
Seems to me that losing "the vehicle of [my] life's journey" could mean death.  :(
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 04, 2014, 01:32:40 pm
Happened again last night. Another weird dream.

Much of it has now faded, but I remember that my mother, my father, and I were all living back in the house in which I grew up. I could see Mother clearly, and I remember her telling me that she and my father were getting a divorce ( :o My parents did not divorce; they were married 40 years when my mother died.). Then I went to meet my father at a big old Victorian house, where he had to meet someone to whom he owed money. There was a large room in the house where people were sitting around on folding chairs listening to a man and a woman play music on violins. I didn't want to disturb the concert, but I couldn't find my father. I went outside the house, to the front lawn, which had a large circular driveway, and I realized that my dad had left without me. I tried to call him on my cell phone, but I couldn't get him to answer his cell phone.

Tell you what, I had no weird dreams--no dreams at all that I remembered--the whole of the short time I was visiting OCD.  ???
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on August 04, 2014, 04:46:00 pm
Hmmm....that's interesting.

I occasionally I have dreams where I've lost my car, but I always find it in the end.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 05, 2014, 08:58:45 am
Well, this isn't a dream, but somehow it seems appropriate to me to post it here.

This morning on my way to work, I was standing at the bus stop, when I noticed a quarter lying in the street face up. I picked it up, and when I turned it over, it was a "Wyoming" quarter!  :D

An omen of some kind, and of what kind?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on August 05, 2014, 05:16:43 pm
Oh, that's kinda cool!  Nice!  Take it as a good omen, and keep it aside.  ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 06, 2014, 02:51:03 pm
I could see Mother clearly, and I remember her telling me that she and my father were getting a divorce ( :o My parents did not divorce; they were married 40 years when my mother died.). Then I went to meet my father at a big old Victorian house, where he had to meet someone to whom he owed money. There was a large room in the house where people were sitting around on folding chairs listening to a man and a woman play music on violins. I didn't want to disturb the concert, but I couldn't find my father. I went outside the house, to the front lawn, which had a large circular driveway, and I realized that my dad had left without me. I tried to call him on my cell phone, but I couldn't get him to answer his cell phone.

From what you write, in this dream you are coming up to face your parents' failures in the past. And in other dreams, there were authority figures, bosses and the like, who you felt led you in circles or on a nowhere or wrong path. What the subcontext might be, if I read it correctly, is that you are realizing now that you need to set your own path and not rely on others.

I wonder if you would have liked to listen to the violin concert in the large Victorian house if you hadn't been preoccupied with reconnecting with your father?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 06, 2014, 04:05:34 pm
I wonder if you would have liked to listen to the violin concert in the large Victorian house if you hadn't been preoccupied with reconnecting with your father?

Perhaps, if they were playing something Baroque.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on August 06, 2014, 09:06:07 pm
Well, we've been talking about weird dreams, I had a most unusual one last night.

I dreamed that I was someone's prisoner, as was a large group of people.  In this group were some Brokies, but the rest were strangers.

We were all dressed up for a formal event, but prisoners.  We were escorted to a large swimming pool, and pushed in.  It was full of chili, and we were to be cooked and eaten with the chili.

I have no idea what this means, where it came from, and I swear, I didn't have anything spicy before bed.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 07, 2014, 10:13:27 am
Queue up Linda Ronstadt's "When Will I Be Loved?"  8)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on August 07, 2014, 08:51:14 pm
Oh really?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 08, 2014, 07:09:05 pm
I really don't know why your dream reminded me of that song, but it did. Especially the part that says, "I've been pushed down, I've been pushed round"... It seems in your dream that the people were all dressed up and made to believe that they would have a good time, but instead were herded up and dumped into a pot of chili to be eaten by giant monsters (zombies?)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 12, 2014, 12:27:54 pm
Another weird one last night. I was sharing a large bed in a hospital room with someone whom I did not know but who had just had a large section of his colon removed. A doctor was there holding up the section of colon, yet the patient was in no worse shape than if he'd just had a splinter removed.  ???
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 12, 2014, 12:29:13 pm
We were all dressed up for a formal event, but prisoners.  We were escorted to a large swimming pool, and pushed in.  It was full of chili, and we were to be cooked and eaten with the chili.

I may have completely lost my taste for chili. ...  :P
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 13, 2014, 10:10:12 pm
Another weird one last night. I was sharing a large bed in a hospital room with someone whom I did not know but who had just had a large section of his colon removed. A doctor was there holding up the section of colon, yet the patient was in no worse shape than if he'd just had a splinter removed.  ???

I'll take a stab at a translation. Oftentimes, when we want to address something in a dream, but we're hesitant, we assign the role to someone else. This seems to be the role of your bedmate. The dream seems  to be saying that you can get rid of some of your $hitty things with no problem.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on August 25, 2014, 09:56:35 pm
strange one last night.

I was at my parents' house.  THey were out, and I was in the living room alone.  It was late at night, and I heard a commotion outside.  I opened the door to see two thugs looking around to harass people.

For some reason, my block was suddenly full with drag queens, all being victimized by the thugs.  I ran out and one by one, got them all inside my parents' house, until there was only one queen left outside.

I went out, put my hand down my pants, and pulled out a gun.  Aiming it at the thugs, I escorted the last drag queen up the porch, aimed at the thugs, and pulled the trigger, which caused all the bullets  to fall out of the gun.  I pushed the queen into the living room, and closed the door.  The police finally showed up, and arrested the thugs, so the queens were free to go home.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 26, 2014, 11:57:57 am
Chuck, are you inadvertently letting slip out what the trial is about that you're on jury duty for?

Dreams like this are very understandable given the many stories of crimes, even those committed by police, no less, on the news. A common thread in this and your other dream is a feeling of unease about the scary world at large. We may be able to push this down to our subconscious and carry on with our daily lives, but in sleeping the subconscious is in charge and our fears come to the forefront.

There is hope in your resolution of the problem: you realize that you are strong enough to stand up to those who would intimidate the defenseless. You bravely went out and brought in the queens and protected them. Your "gun" was a little comic relief!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 26, 2014, 12:17:55 pm
Your "gun" was a little comic relief!!  :laugh:

Yes, especially this part:

I went out, put my hand down my pants, and pulled out a gun.

"Have you met my little friend?"  ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on August 26, 2014, 05:05:44 pm
Chuck, are you inadvertently letting slip out what the trial is about that you're on jury duty for?

Dreams like this are very understandable given the many stories of crimes, even those committed by police, no less, on the news. A common thread in this and your other dream is a feeling of unease about the scary world at large. We may be able to push this down to our subconscious and carry on with our daily lives, but in sleeping the subconscious is in charge and our fears come to the forefront.

There is hope in your resolution of the problem: you realize that you are strong enough to stand up to those who would intimidate the defenseless. You bravely went out and brought in the queens and protected them. Your "gun" was a little comic relief!!  :laugh:


Excuse you?  "Little" and "comic" are not words that one would want applied to that region.

:laugh:

As for the trial,  it's a civil case, nothing quite as excited as saving drag queens.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on August 26, 2014, 05:06:12 pm
"Have you met my little friend?"  ;D

Again with the size jokes.  ::)  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 24, 2014, 12:30:07 pm
Kind of funny, isn't it? A short while ago I had a spate of remembering dreams from almost every night, and now I seem to be back to the usual pattern of not remembering anything at all.  ???
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 18, 2014, 11:35:29 am
I had an interesting dream 2 days ago and invite your opinions on it. I was working on a large, Edward-Hopper-like painting of some women sitting around a round table in a room. The walls were deep yellow and orange and the point of view was looking down from about ceiling height at them. I was particularly careful with the depiction of the woman who was sitting nearest the viewer, who could only be seen from the back. I painted her with a soft rose dress and her hair was caught up so that her neck and hairline were visible. I was proud of the work on this person, particularly.

But then I decided to put a man into the picture. A man facing the viewer, but looking down. Carrying his jacket over one shoulder and a briefcase in the other hand. I placed him just left of center in the foreground. But I didn't want to cover up the lady, so I actually painted the man on a piece of heavy paper, cut him out, and was placing him here and there on the canvas, trying to find the right place. Suddenly I realized that this would make a good New Yorker cover.

Your thoughts?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on October 18, 2014, 08:11:51 pm
perhaps the lady is you, and you are proud of your progression, but now face a fork in the road, represented by the man, and trying to decide where he goes, equating to which path to take?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 18, 2014, 08:59:53 pm
Sounds very reasonable Chuck! I welcome the interpretations.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on October 18, 2014, 10:09:14 pm
;)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 20, 2014, 09:33:06 am
Talk about strange dreams!

Last night, I dreamed I was walking over the mountains south of the town where my parents were raised--with Cher!  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

She looked pretty good! She was wearing a black pantsuit and a white blouse, and her hair was done like it was for when she went to the opera in Moonstruck.  :laugh:

We came across this trail, and it led to a sort of work camp where teenagers were being held against their will.

And that's when I woke up--probably because I was afraid I was going to be held in the work camp.  :laugh:

I really do watch too many actioners and police procedurals. ...  ::)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on October 20, 2014, 05:54:43 pm
haahahaa!

Now that's funny!  You and Cher hiking through the woods!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
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Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on October 27, 2014, 05:43:24 pm
last night I had a dream that I was at work, but not for the bank.  At this unknown job I was to get a ton of filing done, but everything was completely out of order, and the amount of filing was overwhelming, and no matter what I did, I couldn't make my boss happy.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 27, 2014, 09:29:30 pm
Don't know exactly what the dream means, friend, but next time you have a vacation, I think you should go somewhere and really get away! Come visit Denver, if you like!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on October 28, 2014, 03:52:23 pm
haahaahhaa!   As I told Sonja.....the spririt is willing, but the bank account weak!  LOL
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: southendmd on October 28, 2014, 06:48:36 pm
Tell you what, we need a Brokie credit card!  So any of us can use it to travel the world!

We'll send the bill to Aguirre.  He can keep the miles...
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on October 28, 2014, 07:10:28 pm
sounds like a plan to me!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 31, 2014, 10:04:55 am
That's not all we need. We also need our own cruise ship, a fleet of pick-up trucks, and an Old Brokies' Home in Wyoming!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on October 31, 2014, 02:29:33 pm
Well, I had a bizarre dream (or series of dreams) last night, but no time to talk about them now.  I wll discuss them over the weekend.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Sason on November 02, 2014, 08:21:05 am
Those are great ideas, Paul and Lee!

We also need a Brokie Commune, somewhere!

Sweden is nice. Just saying.....   ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 02, 2014, 05:36:06 pm
Just realized I never came back and told you my crazy dreams that night.

The first one, I went to see my parents, and the cat (Blaze) was gone.  Mom and Dad said they donated him to Praxis, the Alzheimer's facility that my grandmother was sent to.  This caused quite an argument, as Blaze likes the family, but is not the friendliest cat.

I woke up, turned over and went back to sleep.

The second dream, I was doing a favor for friends, and took their daughter (Kayla) to an exotic pet store, for some odd pet she wanted.  Things were going well until some father stopped watching over his daughter, and she fell into a large aquarium of piranha.  She was rescued, but bitten pretty badly.

Thankfully, I didn't have any other dreams after that.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 03, 2014, 01:00:30 pm
I can not resist making some interpretations about your dream, Chuck. You are free to accept or reject them as you wish.

Around Halloween time we are reminded of the fun times we had as children participating in the rituals of the season. We are drawn back into a more innocent time and the inner child within us is awoken. We long for the attention of our parents in creating costumes, taking us out trick-or-treating, making jack o'lanterns, and giving us candy. But when we are grown and out on our own, we have to do all those things for ourselves or for others. Yet, the inner child still wants the attention and playful care from the parent as always. We long for the sense of solace and protection that they provide in a scary situation, even though the scariness is all make believe.

In both of your dreams, there are parent figures who exhibited neglect. In the first one, your parents gave away the cat (and it is implied that they gave away the grandmother to the same location). In the second one, a father neglects his child, who falls into a vat of piranhas. You still need the concern and care of your parents even though you are all grown up and have left the home. Everybody does. However, parents are flawed. I, as a parent, know it's easy to get wrapped up in my own projects and lose touch with my grown children. But they need me, in some ways more than ever.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 04, 2014, 11:11:07 am
This time it was me who had the crazy dream. It began as a quiet evening at a treehouse home, just me and my daughter. She confessed tearfully to me that she didn't have any dresses to wear that made her look good. I went out with a plan to go shopping at REI for a dress for her. While there, I bought quite a few other things, more than I could carry to the cashier's, and there were no carts. I decided to cut some of the gear out of its packaging so I could carry it all. Only a butcher's knife was available and I cut across the top of my index finger and into the side of my thumb. There was a lot of blood but fortunately paper towels were nearby and I stanched the blood quickly. I went away to throw out the paper towels and wash up. Then I remembered I had left all the purchases and my purse there. They were gone when I got back and after a long search I was told they were in "dry dock". I went there, up in the rafters of the store and two swarthy men in robes started giving the items back to me piece by piece as I identified them. I was just about to get my purse back when I woke up.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 05, 2014, 09:00:48 am
Wow......I can't think of any meaning behind that.  At least not right now.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 07, 2014, 11:48:45 am
Dreamed an escapade last night where I went to the church social with my upstairs renter (who looked nothing like my renter in real life). When I arrived to take her to the social, I found out she had subleased the apartment to two red-haired twin women, one of them engaged. So over the course of the dream I discovered that all three were living in the apt. and the fiance was planning to move in too. I danced with one of the twins and suddenly I was an amazing dancer! But I was maneuvering her over the dance floor and we danced right into the bass guitar which was sticking out past the stage! So we decided to stop dancing...  :laugh: At the end we were all leaving together and I had a lot of things to carry. Apparently I had left a lot of things at the church on past visits and decided now was the time to take them all home. But I kept dropping things and my paper bag kept filling up with water and the bottom dropping out of it. My companions went on ahead in a huff but I encountered them later, lost and stranded, and got them home again. I used the opportunity to give them a lecture and tell them I would require a lease from each of them.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 07, 2014, 05:55:17 pm

I had some crazy dreams last night.

First I dreamed I was sent to the moon, to be in some space station.  My supervisor Maria was with me, as was her husband and family.   After doing the tests we needed to do, Maria went nuts and attacked her family.  We found out she had been infected by a parasite, so I pushed her outside the stations and broke her helmet so she had no oxygen, which killed her and the parasite, but then I was able to revive her.

I woke at that point, rolled over, and went back to sleep.

At that point, I dreamed I was back at my old job, the supermarket.  I went into the customer service desk, and it was a wreck.  It was 11pm, and there was uncounted money everywhere......lottery tickets, checks, it was a disaster.  I ending up trying to clean everything up, and it was past 3:00 am when I was done.

I woke up feeling exhausted.  LOL
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 07, 2014, 06:19:35 pm
LOL, it must be the full moon!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 07, 2014, 08:42:23 pm
I'm starting to think it is!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 10, 2014, 09:23:54 am
Saturday night I had a dream.

I had dreamed it was current day, but my grandmother had just died.  (which means she would've been about 130 years old  :laugh: )

Gram lived in a small apartment, but in my dream she had lived in a house that was like the one my parents have, basement, first floor, second floor, attic.

Gram used to have tons of "knick knacks" and I can always remember her telling us whne we were little to not touch her stuff.  Obviously, she was afraid we'd break it.

So in this dream I'm in this house, and I said to myself:  "I know what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna open all her closets, and touch all her stuff!"  And that's what I did.  Starting on the first floor, any closet door I opened, I would touch stuff, and move on to the next closet, leaving the door open.  Went up to the second floor, and did the same, and then moved on to the attic.

I touched her stuff in the attic closet, and then started looking at other stuff in the attic.  For some reason, I turned toward the closet, and the door suddenly slammed shut on its own.  I got up, and  moved down the stairs to the second floor, and when I reached it, all the closet doors on that floor began to slam shut.  At this point I started to scream (:laugh: ) and ran down to the first floor.  All the closet doors her slammed themselves shut again, and I opened the front door and ran to the yard, screaming.

That's when I woke up.  I know it was only a dream, but I was so unnerved by it, I got out of bed (3:15am) and got a book to read it for 20 minutes before going back to sleep, so I could ge the dream out of my brain.

DON'T TOUCH GRANDMA'S STUFF!

::) ::) :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 10, 2014, 11:09:14 am
 :laugh: ::) :P

That dream was completely Stephen King-worthy, friend!!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 10, 2014, 10:29:23 pm
But really, do you remember what any of the items were? There could be some interesting clues here. For example, in the dream I had a few days ago where I was buying gear from REI, a friend asked me, "What kind of gear?" After struggling to remember, I said a compass and a lock. I realized those things have symbolic value.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 12, 2014, 09:11:18 am
No, I don't remember what a lot of the itmes were.

Perhaps some porcelin bowls and small things like that.   I do remember from real life that she loved elephants for some reason, she never did explain why.

I posted the dream to the family page we have on Facebook, and a number of the cousins thought it was funny.  One cousin also  commented on my ability to remember my dreams, she can't do that.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 12, 2014, 12:00:03 pm
I think you are ready for lucid dreaming! One thing I try to do at the start of a dream is to go around and observe everything I'm presented with and make a mental note about it. This can be very helpful in figuring out the meaning/message of a dream later. But then there are times when the things I see in a dream are so bizarre and random that I can tell my brain is just whizzing through the daily connections and they are meaningless. In fact, sometimes you just have to laugh at the crazy visions and oddball connections that your mind conjures up!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 13, 2014, 08:46:06 pm
Try it tonight!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 14, 2014, 08:48:14 am
It's funny you should mention laughing.

The other night I had a dream (can't remember it) but something in the dream was funny, because I started laughing, and when I woke up, I was still laughing.


;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 15, 2014, 05:10:45 pm
... I do remember from real life that she loved elephants for some reason, she never did explain why.


She loved elephants, you say? I wonder about the significance of that!? Anyone want to comment on a love of elephants?? (Looks around)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: southendmd on November 15, 2014, 06:34:31 pm
She loved elephants, you say? I wonder about the significance of that!? Anyone want to comment on a love of elephants?? (Looks around)

haha!  Here's a wonderful TED talk thingie on elephants:

http://ed.ted.com/lessons/why-elephants-never-forget-alex-gendler

(ETA:  it's only about 5 minutes long)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 16, 2014, 01:17:03 am
Thank you, friend! I'll listen to it tomorrow. Meanwhile, I brought my grandsons a copy of the book "Babar's Picnic" today.  :D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 16, 2014, 04:46:43 pm
(http://mediacdn.snorgcontent.com/media/catalog/product/i/r/irrelephant_fullpic_artwork.jpg)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Sason on November 16, 2014, 05:25:17 pm
^^^^

 ;D :laugh:

I love that, Chuck!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 17, 2014, 03:16:02 pm
(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4000/3003/1600/faimlyPicnic.jpg)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Sason on November 17, 2014, 03:25:51 pm
Babar!  I love Babar!   ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 18, 2014, 07:31:17 pm
No new dreams lately, thankfully.  LOL  I've been sleeping well.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 23, 2014, 10:43:42 am
Me neither (although the experts say we always dream, we just don't remember our dreams much of the time). I think it's this colder weather: good for hibernating!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 23, 2014, 04:28:31 pm
Hibernating would be nice right about now.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Sason on November 23, 2014, 05:07:49 pm
Tell me about it....  ::)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 24, 2014, 06:16:56 pm
let's do it!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: southendmd on November 26, 2014, 06:49:11 pm
I dreamed of Ari Shapiro last night.  Oh boy.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 26, 2014, 07:11:10 pm
More details please!! How do you expect us to explain your dream using only our imagination!!!

I felt sorry for Ari when the Ferguson decision was delayed because I knew he had probably been on the red eye from Cork, Ireland, earlier that day or the one before.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: southendmd on November 26, 2014, 08:29:47 pm
More details please!! How do you expect us to explain your dream using only our imagination!!!

This one needs no explanation.   8)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 26, 2014, 08:49:33 pm
:laugh:

One of those dreams, huh?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 26, 2014, 11:05:21 pm
:laugh:

One of those dreams, huh?

What was wet, the pillow or the sheets?  8)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 27, 2014, 01:11:43 pm
Well, I had a doozy last night!

I was staying over at my parents' home, the house I was raised in. A friend was staying with me, and he was Asian; the face was familiar, but I haven't been able to place it. My mother was there. We were going to fly back to Philadelphia.  :o  I was the one who was poking around and putting us behind schedule. We were picked up by some guy driving a very strange vehicle, with an open back seat. It was yellow in color. He drove us all over the county to deliver ice cream before finally taking us to the airport, where a clock showed only 15 minutes until the time of our flight.

That's the last I remember of it.

 :-\
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 27, 2014, 09:05:26 pm
That is an odd one, Jeff.

I had one about two days ago, but I forgot it after waking up.  I just remember having one.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 27, 2014, 09:24:40 pm
I had one about two days ago, but I forgot it after waking up.  I just remember having one.

Happens to me a lot.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Sason on November 29, 2014, 06:57:33 pm
let's do it!

I'm game! I hate this time of year   >:(
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 30, 2014, 12:39:41 am
oh, I like this time of year.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 30, 2014, 11:21:19 am
I was staying over at my parents' home, the house I was raised in.
Odd that you don't call it, my home, or my childhood home.
My mother was there.
Did she try to speak to you, or was she just...there?
We were going to fly back to Philadelphia.  :o  I was the one who was poking around and putting us behind schedule.
Sounds like you wanted to stay in the past rather than return to present times.
We were picked up by some guy driving a very strange vehicle, with an open back seat. It was yellow in color. He drove us all over the county to deliver ice cream before finally taking us to the airport, where a clock showed only 15 minutes until the time of our flight.
Sounds a little like a Fellini scene! Was the guy someone familiar? Was he dressed as a clown? How did you feel about the delays?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 03, 2014, 12:15:56 pm
I had several interesting dreams last night and I wanted to remember them to tell you about them. As I was waking up, I decided to title each of the dreams so I could recall them by saying the title. The first one was "dates". I dreamed I was walking along at a campus carrying books, but it was in the present day. An older guy with a beard and mustache, looking distinguished but casual at the same time, came up to me and asked me if I would like to have his business card. I was puzzled at first and thought maybe he was trying to sell me something, but then it dawned on me that maybe he was attracted to me and so I said "sure!" I took his card and went on to the gymnasium where a potluck was set up. While I was getting my food, I met another guy, about the same age and type as the first! We decided to eat together and were going out onto the deck when we ran into the first guy. I was apprehensive that he might think badly about me for being with another man, but surprisingly, he was friendly to both of us. We all three sat down together over dinner and really clicked as a threesome!

In the second dream I had a lionfish and was really struggling to keep it alive and healthy, especially as I insisted on carrying it around with me everywhere. I was forever trying to find a container or water and sometimes I had to put it in a sink to revive it. Finally, I was carrying it around in the pages of a book, looking for a better home for it. The lionfish didn't make it but I remember thinking at least it would make a good dinner when I got home. The third dream was about my Husky/Malamute dog, Kapu. My daughter told me they lost the dog after parachute jumping. The entire family, except for me, decided to go parachute jumping from a plane and they decided to take the dog with them. He survived the jump just fine but then ran off and got lost in the forest where they landed.

Unfortunately I can't remember the title of the last dream, but I do remember that it was the most interesting and joyful of them all! Isn't that always the case?!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on December 03, 2014, 06:54:52 pm
Hmmm...those are some interesting dreams.   I seemed to be 'dream free' last night.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on December 22, 2014, 09:13:28 am
My maternal grandparents were a couple who should NEVER have gotten married.  They did so because gram had a bun in the oven, my mom.

They lived in a small town in Pennsylvania, and fought like cats and dogs their entire marriage.

I swear, I didn't watch any sappy TV shows last night.  LOL

I dreamed I was in Pennsylvania.  I was the age I am now, but my grandparents looked like they did when I was a kid.  Instead of the house they lived in, in the dream they lived in a small farmhouse.  While it wasn't a farm, it was on the outside of town.

They were actually very nice to each other, and I was there, helping them do some chores, and shopping, and decorating their house for Christmas.

I can still see grandma walking around in my dream in a pair of overalls, something she never wore in real life.  LOL

I'm taking this as a sign that they're at peace with each other now.
 
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 22, 2014, 01:07:42 pm
What a lovely dream, Chuck! So, did your grandmother "wear the pants in the family", was that part of the friction?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on January 17, 2015, 07:22:07 pm
Well I had a doozy a few nights ago, that I'm just getting the time to tell now.

 ::) :laugh:

It was like being in a movie.......I was a member of a church, very large, but there was something....evil, about it.  I tried to do some investigating, but needed help from someone I could trust.

For some reason, that turned out to be Andy Griffith.  I have no idea why, since I almost never watched his show, but there he was, in his young, black and white days, while everyone else was in full color.  The two of us paired together discovered that there were people being held captive in the church above where the organ was.  They were in chains and abused, but we couldn't figure out how to rescue them.  We went back down to the main church, to find that they had just captured Barney Fife, and that their plan was to use evil magic to kill leaders in the organized Catholic church.

Andy and I were about to leave when we were attacked from behind.  Andy was turned into their slave, his mind wiped clean.  I was killed.  Turns out that Andy was key to their plan, he was needed for some reason, and without him the entire plan was destroyed.

The dream ended when my spirit took over Andy's body, and I forced Andy to grab one of the ceremonial daggers and slit his own throat, thus destroying all their plans.

And that's when I woke up.

lol
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 17, 2015, 10:28:11 pm
Wow! That was pretty intense, friend!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 28, 2015, 05:13:06 pm
It was like being in a movie.......I was a member of a church, very large, but there was something....evil, about it.  I tried to do some investigating, but needed help from someone I could trust.
The beginning of your dream echoes a common theme of distrust in institutions, especially long-established ones like religions.

For some reason, that turned out to be Andy Griffith.  I have no idea why, since I almost never watched his show, but there he was, in his young, black and white days, while everyone else was in full color.  The two of us paired together discovered that there were people being held captive in the church above where the organ was.  They were in chains and abused, but we couldn't figure out how to rescue them.  We went back down to the main church, to find that they had just captured Barney Fife, and that their plan was to use evil magic to kill leaders in the organized Catholic church.
Of course you turned to good ol' Andy! This is another common theme, that the days of black-and-white TV were all innocent and wonderful, and all of the world's ills could be cured by just going back to the values of 1950s US of A. (I'm not criticizing your dream but this is a bit of a pet peeve of mine, when I run into someone who thinks this way. He's invaryingly a white, older, straight male, of course.) Then, when you two discovered the persecuted people, it reminds me of other dreams you told us about where there were cruel overlords taking masses of people prisoner.

Andy and I were about to leave when we were attacked from behind.  Andy was turned into their slave, his mind wiped clean.  I was killed.  Turns out that Andy was key to their plan, he was needed for some reason, and without him the entire plan was destroyed.

The dream ended when my spirit took over Andy's body, and I forced Andy to grab one of the ceremonial daggers and slit his own throat, thus destroying all their plans.
So, I'm interpreting that the cruel overlords wanted to use the body of Andy Griffith to seduce the masses into thinking their church was as beloved as he was. And TV has been called the opiate of the masses, so that plays into the plan as well. You foiled the schemes by killing Andy, and you were the hero! Interesting that you actually died in your dream. That hardly ever happens.

Your dream touches on several of the popular fears about modern life: distrust of institutions, the suspicion that things are not as they seem and that we're living in a dystopia. It's probably not a coincidence that many recent movies and TV shows ping on these fears and cover the same topics. Your dream would make a great show on the order of Hunger Games...you should license it!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on January 28, 2015, 07:57:54 pm
Your dream would make a great show on the order of Hunger Games...you should license it!

lmao!  My mom said the same thing.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 29, 2015, 12:11:15 pm
The beginning of your dream echoes a common theme of distrust in institutions, especially long-established ones like religions.

I should have mentioned that I see this theme often in people's dreams. I wasn't saying it's a common theme of your dreams, friend.

Last night I re-watched Silver Linings Playbook and it caused me to have a strange dream myself. I don't remember much about it except that I was with our friend Kelda and she was in some kind of trouble (thugs chasing her) and I was trying to help her. Maybe because Kelda looks a bit like Jennifer Lawrence. It was nice to have a dear friend show up in a dream!  :-*

That movie is pretty intense! I watched it again primarily for JL. I don't ordinarily like Bradley Cooper that much but he was awesome in that movie. He made Robert diNiro look like leftover pastry!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on January 29, 2015, 07:37:14 pm
I don't remember much about it except that I was with our friend Kelda and she was in some kind of trouble (thugs chasing her) and I was trying to help her. Maybe because Kelda looks a bit like Jennifer Lawrence. It was nice to have a dear friend show up in a dream!  :-*

I love it when that happens.  I've had a few dreams where Brokies have shown up.  lol
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 19, 2015, 10:28:14 am
A fragment from last night:

I was living as a roommate in the home of two of my club brothers--except their home was the house my grandparents lived in when I was a kid.

I owed them money (rent?).

They had a baby daughter. In the dream I knew her name, and even addressed her by it, but I've no forgotten it. It wasn't Olivia, but it was something like Olivia.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on February 20, 2015, 09:17:08 am
last night I had a few crazy dreams, but I can't remember them  now.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 09, 2015, 03:19:46 pm
This thread is bittersweet. Many friends that have gone on and now exist in our dreams.  :'(

In a dream that I had March 6, 2015, I was in my old office and went up to the 3rd (top) floor to the open area outside the executive offices. It was a busy, crowded place with lots of nooks where admins had their desks, overflowing with work, and there were also windows here and there looking out on the city, which was New York City (although I've never lived there). I was looking around for some papers when someone invited me to sit down at an empty desk in the middle of things, piled with papers. The person said, “That’s where you belong, anyway.” I discovered that I was now the office manager which was intimidating because I thought I didn’t know how to do that. But as I dealt with people coming to me with their problems I realized that it didn’t take any specialized skill, only the abilities to focus and solve problems.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 09, 2015, 11:02:48 pm
I had two dreams on March 6 and this was the second one.
I was sleeping in my bed at the San Franciscan Center when a man named Paul, looking something like the actor Alfred Molina, came in, shook me awake, and said that there were some job interviewers who wanted to see me.



Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 09, 2015, 11:03:56 pm
I had an apocalyptic dream on March 6. Here it is.

(1st dream)
I was sunbathing and reading a book in the courtyard of the San Franciscan Center when, out of the corner of my eye, I saw two people falling through the air. I turned to look at the skydivers and noticed that they were dressed in street clothes and didn’t have parachutes. I realized they were not skydivers but victims of an accident. As they fell out of sight over a hill, black dots appeared in the sky all around that grew larger and became people falling to earth. I stared in horror and noticed that one was a child with striped socks and long hair with a ribbon in it. As she fell, I didn’t have time to mourn her because another person fell quite close to me with a sickening thud, raising dust as his body burrowed into the soft earth. I got up and edged closer to the roof overhang as they kept coming and coming.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on March 21, 2015, 01:05:42 pm
I had a crazy one last night, but I can't remember it.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 06, 2015, 05:25:50 pm
Both my mom and I had weird dreams on the night of the Blood Moon this past weekend. In her dream, she was in the rehab hospital and it was late at night. She could hear me out in the hall, carousing, talking loudly and throwing and breaking glasses. It sounded to her like I was at a New Year's Eve party. She kept trying to call me to come into the room but in vain. When she was telling me about the dream, I asked why she wanted me to come in the room. She said, "so that you would settle down."

In my dream, we were at the retirement home where she lives. The staff had gone into her room to clean it either because she was moving out or because she was coming back home from the rehab place. The staff said they found some grape juice in the fridge and they threw it out. I became very angry because I had put the grape juice in the fridge and wanted Mom to have it when she came home. It was the "wine" we had used for communion during a recent church retreat and we had only taken a glassful out of the bottle.

Anyone interested in commenting on these dreams?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on April 07, 2015, 08:45:45 am
Interesting dreams Lee.  I have to say, I like the idea of you having such a good time you're tossing glasses around.

:laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 07, 2015, 08:13:08 pm
...I have to say, I like the idea of you having such a good time you're tossing glasses around.

Now that you mention it, I like that idea too! My mom probably heard the rehab staff chatting and talking in the hall and the clink of glasses being collected (or maybe broken) and just assumed it was me, since she's so dependent on me these days!

I went to her apartment today to get mail, etc., and I brought the grape juice home to my house. Not sure what I'll do with it. It would probably take me a month to drink the whole bottle (I don't go in for juice much, I prefer eating the fruit). But I feel better having it here.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 15, 2015, 10:33:45 pm
Yester eve had its highs and lows in the dream realm. First I had a terrible dream where I was in a small plane and apparently had hired the governor of my state, John Hickenlooper, to do some kind of landscaping that needed to be done at altitude. We were in a small plane, piloted by my mother, LOL, and he stepped out onto a small mast and then launched himself into thin air! No parachute or nothing. I was watching from the open double doors, hanging on for dear life from a gate, and avoided talking to him or crying out for fear that if I acknowledged his daredevil action, I would be sucked into it too. As he fell out of sight, I went back to the cockpit and debated what to say to my mom. Anything upsetting, and she might tip the plane into an unstable trajectory...I woke up with my heart pounding

Then, in the early morning, I fell back asleep and had an interesting dream. I was in the process of moving my mom into a new housing situation. Instead of the retirement home she is living in, in my dream she was living in a beach cottage, so I had to clean it out and also dispose of a couple of boats. In the process, I ran into an old boyfriend, Claudio, a Brazilian guy, who was passing through. Strangely, he had not aged at all. He looked the same as when I met him over 40 years ago! Chiseled features, a strong tan, and steely eyes, wiry physique. We decided to renew our relationship. He went to get his stuff and I was sitting in the parking lot in front of the hostel I was staying at. All of a sudden a bus pulls up and who gets out? Brad, a guy I had dated in college. He was from Mennonite parents and had wonderful gossamer blond hair, with a slight greenish tinge as if he swam a lot. He saw me and we locked eyes. He came out and we talked awkwardly. He said he was on a 3-day holiday. I replied how happy I was to see him and could I spend the weekend with him? He went to obtain a room and I went outside and looked at the seashore. Then I came back inside, not knowing who I would see first and be with. It turned out to be Claudio. At the end of my dream, I was walking with him to the beach, skipping and jumping in anticipation of the happiness and ecstasy which I knew I would be shortly experiencing! I was wearing my hippy clothes and my body was back to its twenty-something shape. I woke up refreshed, happy and feeling fabulous!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on April 16, 2015, 08:47:08 am
wow Lee, that second dream is great!!! Love it!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 19, 2015, 12:01:45 pm
Rushing here to write down my dream before I forget it! I dreamed my daughter was going to be on some detective reality show and I was in charge of making up some props. I had some small metal props that I made (a bit like darts but sculpted in a semi-human shape, with wings) and I put them all into a transparent plastic bag on which I'd drawn a beautiful dragonfly in green and blue oil crayons. Another item was a large-ish wooden box into which I placed wet towels and fabrics that I sculpted into fantastic caves, grottos,  mountains and valleys. But then I decided it needed more water so I sprinkled it with a watering can whereupon everything collapsed in a lump. I wasn't discouraged by this but seemed convinced that I would make an even better landscape once the fabrics dried out a bit. I think the camera was supposed to zoom in on the landscape and have my daughter and her sidekick exploring it via a green screen.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 07, 2015, 01:44:21 pm
Well, I sure had a crazy one last night, for the night following my birthday.

I was young again--or yet--in my twenties, I'd say. My mother was still living, and my parents had moved me to Seattle (!)--I'm positive it was Seattle!  :o  I don't know why I was moving there. I had an apartment in an older building, and all the rooms opened onto one hallway. I was having trouble getting my electronics to work, specifically, my television set and my clock radio. Then the apartment was sort-of invaded by a group of my new neighbors, also young people, who started doing things to help me get settled in. They seemed to be led by a young woman who had dark, curly hair, pale skin, and very red lips (sort of vampirish, actually). She promised to come back the next morning to help me get the TV to work. Another young woman was making some sort of wooden curtain rod, which was to be used to close off the kitchen from the rest of the apartment.

Next we all went out to get something to eat. It seemed to be spring, but the weather was still cold enough that we needed to wear winter coats. The scene shifted to a kind of greasy spoon/diner sort of place, with a counter on the wall to the right, and tables along the wall to the left. I remember speaking to the curly-haired leader, wondering why I had not thought to buy a "Street-Wise" brand map of Seattle before moving there.

Then we were at some sort of election, like a home-owners' association election, or something--and the it appeared that the winner was a tall, slim young woman with very red hair--kind of Lucille Ball red hair.

That's about all I can remember.

I can venture a few thoughts of my own on where some of this came from, but not all. Where Seattle, and the young women, came from, I have no idea. The age cohort may have come from the fact that I had dinner last night with a newish friend, who is a very cute, very bright, very articulate twenty-something puppy who is working on a master's degree in history. Possibly the election is related in some way to our coming primary election here in Pennsylvania; this is mayoral election year here in Philadelphia, and the city is so overwhelmingly Democratic that whoever wins the Democratic primary this month is practically guaranteed to be elected mayor in November. Another factor in the "election" may have been a dissatisfied feeling that our condo association has dragged their collective feet over the new windows for the building and other maintenance issues. But that's about all I can guess about.  :-\
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 28, 2015, 08:57:25 am
I've recently had 3 nights of back to back odd dreams.

The first I was a prospector back in the days of  the gold rush.  I found no gold, but a bag full of magical charms, the types you would see on a charm bracelet.

Rather than keep them to myself, I began to give them out, and  the more I gave out, the richer I got financially.


The  second dream I was teamed up in a small group of people, and we were supposed to save the world.  it wasn't like an earthquake or natural disaster movie, more like a brain teaser....we had to figure out  a way into a sacred temple and then  solve puzzles, which would stop the end from coming.

The  last dream was the weirdest.  I was traveling through Europe with the 5 actresses from The Facts of Life.

::)

We stopped at a roadside store selling handmade gifts, and they all wanted me to buy things that had hearts and love symbols on them.   I kept gravitating towards this car carved  out of wood, that had a lone driver in it, and every time I picked it up, I head the song "Dust In The Wind".
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 28, 2015, 02:11:13 pm
The  last dream was the weirdest.  I was traveling through Europe with the 5 actresses from The Facts of Life.

::)


Easy enough to understand why they were on your mind.  8)

Does that make you George Clooney?  ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 28, 2015, 06:39:00 pm
Easy enough to understand why they were on your mind.  8)

Does that make you George Clooney?  ;D

You mean other than the fact I've been watching the reruns on Logo?  LOL  Oh, and no, I wasn't George, but I wish he had been in the dream.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 28, 2015, 08:17:01 pm
You mean other than the fact I've been watching the reruns on Logo?  LOL  Oh, and no, I wasn't George, but I wish he had been in the dream.

Well, you just posted the actresses' picture "someplace else." And, notice I didn't ask if that made you Charlotte Rae?  ;D  :-*
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 28, 2015, 11:25:05 pm
I love dreams with magical charms, almost as much as I love finding real magical charms. EDelMar and I were hiking in the backwoods of Colorado when we found some shiny metal objects. I picked one up and it was a little heart with some filigree engraving. He asked me where I had seen that before, and it turns out it is on the border of the Statue of Liberty's flame. I put it in my jeans pocket and later, at home, I added it to my little altar of magical things.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 29, 2015, 08:51:40 am
Well, you just posted the actresses' picture "someplace else." And, notice I didn't ask if that made you Charlotte Rae?  ;D  :-*

because you're a smart man!  LOL
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 29, 2015, 08:52:26 am
I love dreams with magical charms, almost as much as I love finding real magical charms. EDelMar and I were hiking in the backwoods of Colorado when we found some shiny metal objects. I picked one up and it was a little heart with some filigree engraving. He asked me where I had seen that before, and it turns out it is on the border of the Statue of Liberty's flame. I put it in my jeans pocket and later, at home, I added it to my little altar of magical things.

Oh, that's a cool story!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 29, 2015, 09:23:27 am
I love dreams with magical charms, almost as much as I love finding real magical charms. EDelMar and I were hiking in the backwoods of Colorado when we found some shiny metal objects. I picked one up and it was a little heart with some filigree engraving. He asked me where I had seen that before, and it turns out it is on the border of the Statue of Liberty's flame. I put it in my jeans pocket and later, at home, I added it to my little altar of magical things.

Oh, that's a cool story!

I agree. How neat to find a treasure like that.  :D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 30, 2015, 10:41:22 am
Here is the torch:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 31, 2015, 02:50:41 pm
The story of Joseph, he of the "technicolor dreamcoat", was the subject of the Sunday message today. Dreams played an important role in Joseph's success, when he correctly interpreted the Pharaoh's dream, and earlier, in his downfall, when he bragged about how his brothers bowed down to him and, later, how the moon and stars bowed down to him in his dreams. I took this as a personal message to me.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 12, 2015, 11:20:25 pm
I had the craziest dream two nights ago. I'll just tell you one part of it. In my dream, I was ravenously hungry. I was in a cafeteria going through the line. I was in a hurry because the friend who I was there with had already gotten his food and was sitting down. For some reason, I got dessert first, some lemon chiffon pie, and didn't have anyplace to put it on my tray, so I put it off to the side of a counter, half-hidden, until I could get the rest of my food and take it all to the cashier. But after I filled my tray and went back for the pie, it had been taken away by the staff. So, I went to get some different pie. Same problem...no place for it on my tray. I tried to hide it better this time, but same result. I should have just paid for my dinner and skipped the pie, but no, I was determined to have dinner AND pie. Each time, I had to get a different kind of pie, because the lemon chiffon was gone. Needless to say, I woke up exhausted and hungry after all the pie hunting in my dream!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on June 13, 2015, 03:08:05 pm
:laugh:

I had a dream a few nights ago that I was walking along some streets that were elaborately decorated for Halloween.  It was so cool to see some of the ideas people came up with.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 17, 2015, 11:35:27 am
I love dreams with magical charms, almost as much as I love finding real magical charms. EDelMar and I were hiking in the backwoods of Colorado when we found some shiny metal objects. I picked one up and it was a little heart with some filigree engraving. He asked me where I had seen that before, and it turns out it is on the border of the Statue of Liberty's flame. I put it in my jeans pocket and later, at home, I added it to my little altar of magical things.

Today EDelMar sent me a photo of parts of the Statue of Liberty upon delivery to New York 130 years ago today!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 17, 2015, 11:58:43 am
A couple of days--or, rather, nights--ago, I had a dream that I had bought a new condo in my building. It was larger than my present home, and it had a much larger balcony, and it came with a parking space! Strangely, the layout of the unit was unlike any in my building, and the elevator lobbies were also very different--much more elegant--and so was the ground floor lobby. I was trying to sleep, but strangers kept walking into my apartment because they thought someone else lived there. Somebody was trying to make me pay a debt owed by a previous resident of the unit!

Next thing I knew, I was driving a car and learning to get in and out of the garage and find my parking space; the entrance looked like a cross between a public parking garage and an industrial loading dock.

The condo building was still my present building, but it seemed to have been transported to a more suburban locale. After getting the car parked, I was out walking around the neighborhood, and instead of a downtown neighborhood, I was in a neighborhood of winding streets with smallish single-family homes on individual lots. And I was still dressed for sleeping!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on June 18, 2015, 08:27:35 am
Today EDelMar sent me a photo of parts of the Statue of Liberty upon delivery to New York 130 years ago today!


(http://www.pro-touring.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=58971)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 18, 2015, 11:41:25 pm
A couple of days--or, rather, nights--ago, I had a dream that I had bought a new condo in my building. It was larger than my present home, and it had a much larger balcony, and it came with a parking space! Strangely, the layout of the unit was unlike any in my building, and the elevator lobbies were also very different--much more elegant--and so was the ground floor lobby. I

Traditionally, dreaming of a new home means that you are ready to move into a new lifestyle, adopt new plans, etc. but I think it's more nuanced than that. It could mean you are seeking to expand your horizons or interested in trying on a new personality or relationship.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 19, 2015, 09:41:09 am
Traditionally, dreaming of a new home means that you are ready to move into a new lifestyle, adopt new plans, etc. but I think it's more nuanced than that. It could mean you are seeking to expand your horizons or interested in trying on a new personality or relationship.

Well, right now I also seem to be having one of those "spells" I get where I wish I could take, oh, a month or so, to downsize in the sense of getting rid of a lot of the stuff I've accumulated over the years.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 24, 2015, 10:45:09 am

Next thing I knew, I was driving a car and learning to get in and out of the garage and find my parking space; the entrance looked like a cross between a public parking garage and an industrial loading dock.

Interesting that you have so often dreamed of being in a car and now you are planning a car trip!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 24, 2015, 11:13:15 am
Interesting that you have so often dreamed of being in a car and now you are planning a car trip!

Thinking about it, anyway.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 04, 2015, 08:07:20 pm
A few days ago I had a really interesting dream. Tim Robbins was in it playing the role of a guy in a group of people I was involved with. We were working on a project of some kind, a construction project. He was engaging me a lot, asking questions, offering to help with things. Then one day I realized he was setting me up for something. After studying him carefully I got the feeling he was setting me up to take the rap for a murder. For instance, he came up to me with a pair of scissors and playfully cut a lock of my hair. He was dancing about and said he wanted to keep the lock of hair forever. I played dumb and said I was flattered. But after he left, I asked a friend to trim my hair so the cut would not be noticeable. I thought he was trying to make me more recognizable as a person with asymmetrical hair.

Then, a day later, I sat bolt upright in my bed upon waking because I realized that he wanted instead to have some hair to leave at the scene of the crime so my DNA would be traced. I quickly came up with a plan to counteract his scheme, but there was scheme after scheme behind it!

Maybe I have been reading too many Sherlock Holmes novels...
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on July 04, 2015, 11:33:44 pm
lmao!  I can completely understand that "bolt" Lee.  There was a time I had a dream I had committed a murder, and when I woke in my bed, I was busy planning my alibi should I be caught.  It was about 5 minutes after being awake that I realized I was in bed, had just woken up, and not killed anyone.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 05, 2015, 12:01:02 pm
So what does it mean if you dream about committing a murder?  ???
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 05, 2015, 01:22:55 pm
My thought is that it doesn't necessarily mean that you want to turn to a life of crime. In my experience, people often stand in for something or someone else. So, you need to figure out what or whom the victim represents. (I would suspect it may be your dad.) In that case, you need to accept that it's natural to be angry about your freedom, time, and energies being taken away from you. Believe me, I wrestle with this every day. I'm coming to accept and cope with the loss little by little and my faith helps me.

Here's what Men's Health has to say about this: http://www.menshealth.com/health/what-deadly-dreams-mean (http://www.menshealth.com/health/what-deadly-dreams-mean)

In my most recent dreams, I suspected someone was trying to get me to take the rap for a murder that hadn't happened yet. And in another dream I didn't tell you about, I was eating some rotisserie chicken that suddenly came alive again and became a cute little monkey-like character, hopping about merrily on its little stubs. I realize that I'm trying to deal with my fears and anger about my mom sucking all my energies and virtually "eating me alive".  :-\
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 05, 2015, 02:00:31 pm
My thought is that it doesn't necessarily mean that you want to turn to a life of crime. In my experience, people often stand in for something or someone else. So, you need to figure out what or whom the victim represents. (I would suspect it may be your dad.) In that case, you need to accept that it's natural to be angry about your freedom, time, and energies being taken away from you.

My dad? I wasn't the one who dreamed he'd murdered somebody. That was CellarDweller.

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 10, 2015, 11:03:45 am
Just to clarify...if one dreams of killing someone, it could have to do with wanting to get rid of something that is nagging you, or killing off a part of yourself that you don't like. Dreams are highly metaphorical, as I've said already.

The only thing I remember from my dream last night was that I was deadheading the poppies and a capsule broke and opened in my hand and a huge amount of poppy seeds tumbled out. It was wonderful. This morning I did check the poppies but the seedheads aren't ready to be harvested yet. The California poppies are also forming their long scythe-like seedheads and they're really fat this year.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 10, 2015, 12:26:21 pm
Darn. I forgot I should have posted a couple of days ago, right after I had an interesting dream, and now I only remember fragments of it.

I seemed to be living in the house my grandparents owned when I was a kid. I think the house was up for sale, but I can't remember for sure. I remember going out the back door, and the weather was very overcast--it looked like it was going to rain--and there was something about me wearing a raincoat that I've had since I was a teenager, but I don't remember exactly what it was.  ???

It's also possible that these fragments are fragments of two different dreams, but I just don't remember for sure.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 11, 2015, 05:04:26 pm
I had a lulu last night.

I was visiting my dad, going to church with him. In actuality, on Sundays the church has the use of the parking lot at what had been my old junior high school, about two blocks from the church, for parishioner parking, and the church owns a small vehicle, kind of a cross between a bus and a step van, to transport people from the parking lot to the church.

Anyway, in the dream, we pulled into the parking lot, and the church bus wasn't there. Instead there was a vehicle that seemed to be a station wagon, but it wasn't large enough to hold everyone who was waiting for a ride to the church, especially since the waiting parishioners included a man and woman unknown to me, who had with them three standard poodle dogs!

The next thing I remember, my dad and I are driving out of the parking lot. My dad is driving, except for reasons unknown the steering wheel is on the right side of the car, not the left, where it belongs, and my dad drives right through a red light!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on July 12, 2015, 02:19:42 pm
well that's a different one, Jeff.

three standard poodles, huh?  bless the beasts, and the children.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 12, 2015, 03:02:42 pm
well that's a different one, Jeff.

three standard poodles, huh?  bless the beasts, and the children.

I have NO idea where those poodles came from!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on July 12, 2015, 06:00:17 pm
maybe you want a pet.  LOL
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 13, 2015, 10:24:53 am
Had another one last night. I think this one was mostly influenced by TV commercials, things I read, and even some things I may have read here on Bettermost.

In the dream I was going to get to do the voice of a character in an animated film!  :laugh:  To do it I was going to have to go someplace in the Southern Hemisphere--maybe South Africa, I'm not sure; I just remember realizing, Oh, it's winter there now! I remember that our Bettermost friend EDelmar was somehow involved in the project, and I was going to have to take more vacation time from my job than I'm allowed. I remember sitting on the side of my old bed in my old room in the house where I grew up, and asking my mother what I should do about it. Rather unusual for my dreams, this time I actually saw my mother.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on July 13, 2015, 12:26:44 pm
Now that's funny, you doing a voice-over for a character.  Was it a cowboy?  ;)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 13, 2015, 06:05:26 pm
Now that's funny, you doing a voice-over for a character.  Was it a cowboy?  ;)

I don't remember what the role was.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 13, 2015, 09:42:35 pm
...I remember sitting on the side of my old bed in my old room in the house where I grew up, and asking my mother what I should do about it. Rather unusual for my dreams, this time I actually saw my mother.

This reminds me of the late scene in the movie where Ennis was sitting by the window in Jack's childhood room and then he goes downstairs to talk with Ma Twist. It seems to me like there have been several dreams, friend, where you saw your mother. Often, you spoke to her, but I don't recall you getting an answer.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 13, 2015, 10:36:11 pm
This reminds me of the late scene in the movie where Ennis was sitting by the window in Jack's childhood room and then he goes downstairs to talk with Ma Twist. It seems to me like there have been several dreams, friend, where you saw your mother. Often, you spoke to her, but I don't recall you getting an answer.

Not really, at least not that I remember. I remember dreams where I saw the back of her head, or something. But I don't dream about her often.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 13, 2015, 11:25:02 pm
Well, I sure had a crazy one last night, for the night following my birthday.

I was young again--or yet--in my twenties, I'd say. My mother was still living, and my parents had moved me to Seattle ...


a dream with your mother from May.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 13, 2015, 11:27:27 pm
I was staying over at my parents' home, the house I was raised in. A friend was staying with me, and he was Asian; the face was familiar, but I haven't been able to place it. My mother was there. We were going to fly back to Philadelphia.  :o  I was the one who was poking around and putting us behind schedule. We were picked up by some guy driving a very strange vehicle, with an open back seat. It was yellow in color. He drove us all over the county to deliver ice cream before finally taking us to the airport, where a clock showed only 15 minutes until the time of our flight.

Another dream with your mother.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 13, 2015, 11:35:05 pm
...my mother, my father, and I were all living back in the house in which I grew up. I could see Mother clearly, and I remember her telling me that she and my father were getting a divorce ( :o My parents did not divorce; they were married 40 years when my mother died.). Then I went to meet my father at a big old Victorian house, where he had to meet someone to whom he owed money. There was a large room in the house where people were sitting around on folding chairs listening to a man and a woman play music on violins. I didn't want to disturb the concert, but I couldn't find my father. I went outside the house, to the front lawn, which had a large circular driveway, and I realized that my dad had left without me. I tried to call him on my cell phone, but I couldn't get him to answer his cell phone.

Just one more
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 16, 2015, 04:23:43 pm
Those dreams are rather widely spaced apart, don't you think? May of this year, November and August of last year?

I think the recurring theme of owing money might be just as notable as the appearances of my mother.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 17, 2015, 12:11:29 am
It's actually a pretty significant factor.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on July 17, 2015, 08:35:17 pm
that's one thing I never thought to do, keep track of similar themes that recur in dreams.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 19, 2015, 11:56:46 pm
A couple of nights ago I had an interesting dream and I wish I could remember more of it to tell you, but here is the gist. I was following my husband (in this case he looked like my first husband, a tall, ginger haired man) in a jungle-like environment over a series of small lakes or swimming pools. They cascaded down a mountainside and there was a high bridge attached to a series of platforms over the lakes. So, they got increasingly higher, to the point where we were on a platform at least 30 or 40 feet over a lake. He jumped in without apparent effort but when I looked down I realized that I just couldn't jump that far. There was only one other way to go...along a slack line across to another platform. I didn't feel like I could do that either, so I started calling out to the people on shore that I needed help, saving, rescuing. I was complaining loudly about what my husband had led me into and griping about how I was stuck and couldn't get down. I was focusing on the people on the beach who seemed to be having a great time watching me, and were not concerned about my welfare. I was being quite a drama queen doing a lot of vocalization and suddenly I turned around and noticed, surprised out of my wits, that while I was complaining I had crossed the slack line without any big effort and all the danger was behind me!!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 20, 2015, 09:47:32 am
Well, guess what? My mother appeared in another dream, one that I had Friday night.  :laugh:

I dreamed that my four lower front teeth had become so loose I could practically lift them right out of the gum!  :laugh:

I remember lying in bed, and my mother sitting on the edge of the bed, presumably to offer advice on what I should do about this problem, but I can't remember that she actually said anything.  ???
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on July 20, 2015, 11:22:15 am
I had a doozy that made  no sense, I'll post about it when I get home.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on July 20, 2015, 11:22:50 am
being quite a drama queen doing a lot of vocalization and suddenly I turned around and noticed, surprised out of my wits, that while I was complaining I had crossed the slack line without any big effort and all the danger was behind me!!

:laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 21, 2015, 12:19:44 am
Looking forward to hearing about your dream, Chuck!

As for you, friend Jeff, if your mother were really trying to contact you through your dreams, I'll bet she'd be getting kind of tired of the inability to get through your stubborn head by now!! But what I really think is happening is that there's something YOU are trying to tell yourself, and YOU are refusing to listen to yourself. When your "mother" actually gets to speak to you in your dream, it will be cause for celebration!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on July 21, 2015, 09:06:56 am
My dream bounced all over the place.  LMAO!

It started with me and a grade school classmate (as adults) taking part in a track and field event, a relay race.   She and I finished first and second during tryouts, and had to move on to represent someone, but I knew neither of us had trained, and this would be a disaster.

Suddenly, the dream shifted, and I was hosting a birthday party for my friend Dave, in the local cemetery.  ???

Then everyone moved from the cememtery to my parents place for Thanksgiving dinner, which I really didn't understand, because Dave's birthday is September.

:laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 21, 2015, 11:35:17 am
As for you, friend Jeff, if your mother were really trying to contact you through your dreams, I'll bet she'd be getting kind of tired of the inability to get through your stubborn head by now!! But what I really think is happening is that there's something YOU are trying to tell yourself, and YOU are refusing to listen to yourself. When your "mother" actually gets to speak to you in your dream, it will be cause for celebration!

If she's trying to tell me anything, it's probably just that I have to take care of my father, which I know already.  :-\
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 21, 2015, 01:16:56 pm
If she's trying to tell me anything, it's probably just that I have to take care of my father, which I know already.  :-\

Maybe she wants to tell you that she's there to help, in ways which we can not fathom at this time!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 25, 2015, 05:22:03 pm
Last night I dreamed of my grandmother's house, a yellow Victorian, near the railroad tracks in Wichita, Kansas. But everything about it was different. It seemed to be a spaceship, glowing from within. It's odd that I almost always dream I'm in a house or structure when I'm kind of an outdoor person in my waking life.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on July 25, 2015, 05:29:05 pm
hmmmmmmmmm,  that is interesting
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 20, 2015, 08:10:05 pm
I had what you could call a different kind of dream early this morning. I was this comical person, Jemima Puddle-Duck, from the Beatrix Potter books, and I was a detective in charge of investigating some sort of mysterious disappearance. Not sure if it was the heist of vegetables from Farmer McGregor's garden or what. I waddled about my business very diligently but I had a feeling out of the corner of my eye that Bambi, Thumper and all the other animals were conspiring behind my back and making fun of me, giggling merrily whenever I left the room.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on August 21, 2015, 08:35:31 am
wow, that's different.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on September 04, 2015, 08:21:08 am
last night was a  doozy!   I dreamed I had left the apartment, and was renting a whole house, which (somehow) was less expensive than renting the apartment.

However, when I got to the house, it was full of the prior renter's old stuff, and no once could give me an answer as to whether or not I could get rid of it or not.

Also, I somehow became the owner of two kittens.  LOL
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 04, 2015, 09:29:28 am
Last night I dreamed I came into work one morning and was told I couldn't go to the floor where I work because the whole floor was closed off with plastic to be exterminated!

Everyone who works on that floor was told to go up to the very top floor of the building. There weren't enough work stations up there, or even chairs, and nobody had the projects they were working on because we hadn't been told in advance about the extermination project. This was very annoying (but, in reality, kind of typical of the place where I work). However, eventually, management told us all to go home!  :laugh:

Chuck, I hope the kittens are doing well!  ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on September 04, 2015, 11:30:18 am
Wow that must have been one awful infestation!

Dreams serve the very useful purpose of helping us prepare for changes in our waking lives and to take on challenges.  :)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on September 04, 2015, 03:04:12 pm
Chuck, I hope the kittens are doing well!  ;D

I assume someone in the dreamworld is feeding them and changing the litterbox.  LOL
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 04, 2015, 03:06:08 pm
Also, I somehow became the owner of two kittens.  LOL

Chuck, I hope the kittens are doing well!  ;D

I assume someone in the dreamworld is feeding them and changing the litterbox.  LOL

 ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 07, 2015, 01:48:37 pm
Very strange one last night.

I was "at home" in the house where I was raised. My mother was there--I saw her clearly--though I don't remember whether she said anything.  ???  I was there because I had to take a standardized test, which was being administered at my old junior high school. Next thing I knew, I was at the school, and the test turned out to be a swimming test. In the locker room, I was changing into a pair of blue trunks, and I saw an old classmate from junior high and high school--someone I haven't seen in probably about 35 years. I saw him very clearly, too. He was kidding me about being a champion at something--and that's the last I remember.  :(
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on December 07, 2015, 07:20:49 pm
Hmmmm.....strange.   Sometimes, I find that the 'strange' ones can be more tiring and disturbing than nightmares.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on December 07, 2015, 07:42:50 pm
between bowling and weird dreams last night, I feel like I got very little sleep.

Keeping busy at work, so I'll come back later to discuss the dream.


I just realized I never came back to discuss.

I'm starting to think I'm getting messages from the other side.   :laugh:

I had two nights of odd dreams.  I was a few towns away from my apartment, and I was with Susan.  Susan was a grade school classmate and friend of mine from years ago, she lived across the street from me.  Not long ago, I found her obituary online.  She died in 2012, was only 43 years old, and died on Christmas Eve.  The way her obituary read, it sounded as if it was a suicide note.   Anyway, Susan and I were trying to get somewhere that she needed to be.  We kept hopping from cab to cab, because no taxi would take us where she needed to go.  Finally we got out and started walking, thinking we'd actually get to where we needed to be, on foot.   Susan was getting sick, and would stop every other block or so, to vomit.   I woke before we got to where she needed to be.

A few nights later, I had a dream that I had reconnected with Amy, Susan's younger sister.  We met at her house, and her mother was with her, even though she had died in 2014.  When we got to talking, Amy told me I could go to Susan's room to visit, if I wanted.   When I got there, Susan was there, but age 8.  Amy then explained she learned how to clone people, so she cloned Susan, and her mother, who was in the other room.

I woke from that dream feeling very unnerved.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 08, 2015, 12:50:22 pm

I just realized I never came back to discuss.

I'm starting to think I'm getting messages from the other side.   :laugh:

I had two nights of odd dreams.  I was a few towns away from my apartment, and I was with Susan.  Susan was a grade school classmate and friend of mine from years ago, she lived across the street from me.  Not long ago, I found her obituary online.  She died in 2012, was only 43 years old, and died on Christmas Eve.  The way her obituary read, it sounded as if it was a suicide note.   Anyway, Susan and I were trying to get somewhere that she needed to be.  We kept hopping from cab to cab, because no taxi would take us where she needed to go.  Finally we got out and started walking, thinking we'd actually get to where we needed to be, on foot.   Susan was getting sick, and would stop every other block or so, to vomit.   I woke before we got to where she needed to be.

A few nights later, I had a dream that I had reconnected with Amy, Susan's younger sister.  We met at her house, and her mother was with her, even though she had died in 2014.  When we got to talking, Amy told me I could go to Susan's room to visit, if I wanted.   When I got there, Susan was there, but age 8.  Amy then explained she learned how to clone people, so she cloned Susan, and her mother, who was in the other room.

I woke from that dream feeling very unnerved.

I'd be unnerved, too. Those dreams are genuinely spooky.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on December 08, 2015, 02:38:25 pm
I thought they were too.

To dream of Susan twice, in such close proximity to each other, was very different.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 08, 2015, 03:03:18 pm
I thought they were too.

To dream of Susan twice, in such close proximity to each other, was very different.

For your sake I hope she doesn't come back again.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on December 08, 2015, 04:41:57 pm
For your sake I hope she doesn't come back again.

I hope she doesn't either.  LOL

I was on the phone relating the dreams to my mom, and I said to mom, rather loudly in case Susan was near,  "I don't know what she wants, but Susan better start leaving me alone when I sleep."  LOL
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 08, 2015, 04:45:26 pm
I hope she doesn't either.  LOL

I was on the phone relating the dreams to my mom, and I said to mom, rather loudly in case Susan was near,  "I don't know what she wants, but Susan better start leaving me alone when I sleep."  LOL

 :laugh:

If she tries to lead you into the light, don't go!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on December 08, 2015, 07:30:22 pm
Go to the light!


(http://watchplayread.com/files/2010/01/zelda.jpg)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 08, 2015, 07:45:00 pm
Maybe this is a zombie inside joke that I don't know about, but in Tibetan Buddhism, you learn when you're in the bardo (the place between life and death) that you don't go towards the light because if you do, you'll come out in an operating room and somebody will smack you on your butt to get you to start breathing and you'll be stuck on the wheel of life again when you could have been in eternal bliss!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 08, 2015, 08:16:22 pm
Maybe this is a zombie inside joke that I don't know about, but in Tibetan Buddhism, you learn when you're in the bardo (the place between life and death) that you don't go towards the light because if you do, you'll come out in an operating room and somebody will smack you on your butt to get you to start breathing and you'll be stuck on the wheel of life again when you could have been in eternal bliss!

I don't know why that would be a zombie joke. To me it sounds like a joke about the belief in reincarnation.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on December 09, 2015, 09:46:09 am
I agree,  more for reincarnation than zombification.

;)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 02, 2016, 12:41:24 pm
OMG, I had the craziest--craziest--dream last night. It had no coherent "plot," and it raced from scene to scene. All sorts of people showed up, from a childhood next-door neighbor to George W. and Laura Bush (George and Laura Bush?  ???  :o). There was a character I was sure was a hustler, and the childhood next-door neighbor assured me that he had given a motivational speech that helped her decide what sort of law she wanted to practice (as far as I know, this person, whom I have not seen in probably close to 30 years, is not a lawyer). Then there was a house cat that was actually a miniature tiger. And on and on it went, like some sort of drug trip.  ???

I think I know where "the hustler" came from. Last night I was sitting at a table with my drinkin' buddy Phil, and we were watching these two characters sitting at the bar. One was clearly much older than the other. The younger one, with shaggy hair, and a mustache and goatee, for some reason just made me think he looked like a hustler. Phil, who is a bartender and the head waiter in the dining room, insisted that he wasn't a hustler, that he was a "regular" and had never caused trouble, but he still looked like a hustler to me--looked and the way he was all over the older guy like a fly on dog shit.  ::) Those two left together.  ::) So that's where I think the hustler in my dream came from. The Bushes and the next-door neighbor, however, I have no clue where they came from.

The miniature tiger might be Phil's cat, who has a reputation for fearlessness but yesterday was badly frightened by a contingent of Mummers.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 03, 2016, 07:26:03 pm
Sounds like your brain cells were all firing randomly!

Was your mother in the dream? Did you go for a car trip where you were driven by a former teacher?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 03, 2016, 07:36:31 pm
Was your mother in the dream? Did you go for a car trip where you were driven by a former teacher?

No, and no.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on January 04, 2016, 10:26:35 am
wow,  that is some dream, all those tangents tied together.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 21, 2016, 11:07:25 am
My dreams have had a common theme lately. I'm involved in some big project and it's not going very well. Last night, I was making a cake. A big humongous celebratory cake, and I was layering on icing with a spatula, giving it an impressionistic effect. Then, a friend of mine came in and was going to transport the cake to its destination. I left and went into a big building which seemed to be only half built. As I was traversing the scaffolding, I heard a cry from the street below and just had a feeling that the cake was lying in the street. I was trying to decide if I should go look at it or not when I woke up.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 21, 2016, 09:35:13 pm
OH, I hate when that happens.....you feel like you didn't get to complete  the dream!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 23, 2016, 10:45:54 am
I had a crazy one last night.

I dreamed I was one of the kids in The Brady Bunch, however, I was a 7th child, I didn't replace any of them.

This Brady Bunch was Amish, and one of the kids (I believe it was Peter) wanted to be out of the community, so he killed a kid his age, and ran off.

The family was blamed for his murder, and stood trial.  We were found not guilty, but the community shunned us anyway.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 23, 2016, 11:31:18 am
I had a crazy one last night.

I dreamed I was one of the kids in The Brady Bunch.

 :laugh:

I can just hear you! "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!"

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 23, 2016, 04:30:46 pm
Hmmm, Jung could go to town with that dream!

I dreamed during my nap today that there was an ipad that looked like a notebook when it was not on. When you turn it on, you could take several parts out of it, including a pair of glasses that were sunglasses, a camera and a video camera too and they plugged into a USB port in your eyebrow. There was also a comb and hair came out of its teeth; you could control the color and texture of it so you could add hair to your head at any time.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 24, 2016, 08:35:01 am
That's one heck of a useful gadget, Lee!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 24, 2016, 08:36:36 am
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Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 24, 2016, 08:37:58 am
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Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 24, 2016, 09:18:58 am
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpbgbkoG5q1qfacmco1_250.gif)

 :laugh:  :laugh:

I think that's one of the most famous, or well known, episodes.  ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 24, 2016, 10:13:54 am
Haha! There is always an uptick in dreaming when there's a full moon, have you noticed?

How would people think about me merging the two dream topics?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 24, 2016, 10:25:15 am
You may as well, neaten the place up a bit.  ;)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 25, 2016, 12:17:33 am
Since you concurred, I made it so!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 25, 2016, 11:27:12 am
Make it so!

:laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 30, 2016, 12:56:37 pm
I haven't had much time to write about dreams lately, so I have only a fragment here. I clearly saw my mother in the dream, but I don't think she had any message for me. In the dream we were visiting my aunt and uncle, who lived in an old farmhouse out in the country. (For the record, my aunt and uncle do not live in an old farmhouse out in the country, nor have they ever lived in such a dwelling.) There was a barn on the property, and my uncle, my dad, and I went into the barn, and there we discovered a strange man and woman in a bathtub together. In the barn!  :laugh:

That, unfortunately, is all I remember.  :(
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 30, 2016, 01:32:25 pm
Hmmm, this may seem like a random question, but have you witnessed any baptisms lately?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 30, 2016, 04:57:05 pm
Hmmm, this may seem like a random question, but have you witnessed any baptisms lately?

No, seems like a pertinent question, but the answer is no.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 09, 2016, 09:37:27 am
Here's a funny snippet of one from last night: I was shopping at an outdoor sidewalk sale, looking for a new Rubbermaid dish drainer mat!  :laugh:

I think I know where that one came from. A few days ago I was talking with a friend about the Target that's supposed to open next month just a short walk from my place. Last Saturday, when I was on my way back from farmers' market, I noticed they already had the logo on the new building. I remember saying to my friend that while it's been a long time since I've been in a Target, I was hoping this one might make up for the loss of our Center City K-Mart, because since the K-Mart closed, there has been no place in Center City to shop for things that one might shop for at a K-Mart--like Rubbermaid kitchen things!  ;D I think that conversation was still in my memory.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 09, 2016, 11:26:23 am
My friend R. was just telling me yesterday about the word hypnopompic. It means nonsense thoughts upon waking. There's also a word for nonsense thoughts upon going to sleep. I thought it was just me!!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on August 14, 2016, 07:48:11 pm
I seem to have a dream that repeats from time to time.  I'm back in college, but at my current age.

I keep getting my class schedule, and notice that the classes  have already been underway for a month or so. 

I have no intentions on going back to school, so I have no idea why this dream recurs.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 15, 2016, 10:29:31 am
I used to have a similar dream quite often where I was late to or unprepared for my classes. I feel sorry for freshmen at this time of year. It's so confusing and expensive and you hardly ever get to take the classes you want. It can cause a lifelong trauma, as you illustrate, Chuck!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on August 15, 2016, 11:20:46 am
I always wake up from these dreams, and have to remind myself that I'm NOT  a student anymore.  lol
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 17, 2016, 09:46:49 am
Two nights ago I had the silliest dream ever. I dreamed about Davy Crockett!  :laugh:

I think I know where that dream came from; it had two possible sources in my subconscious. First, on eBay, I noticed not too long ago that somebody was selling a refrigerator magnet with an image of Fess Parker as Davy from the old Disney Davy Crockett series from the 1950s. Second, last Saturday evening, I watched The Lawrence Welk Show on PBS,  ::) and the theme was songs from Disney shows. They practically did the entire sound track to Mary Poppins, but one of the guys also sang the theme song from Disney's Crockett series. So I believe I had both of these things in the back of my mind as sources for my dream.

As a side note, the dream inspired me to read up on Crockett on the Internet last night, and I learned that he was the only Congressman from Tennessee to vote against President Andrew Jackson's Indian Removal Bill, which forcibly dispossessed five nations of Native Americans of lands in the Southeastern U.S. that were rightfully theirs and forced them into exile in what is now the state of Oklahoma. Jackson, of course, was also a Tennessean, so I think Crockett's vote against Jackson says something about Crockett's character.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on August 17, 2016, 02:37:44 pm
I love silly dreams.  I've had dreams that are so silly, I actually wake myself up from laughing.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on September 02, 2016, 11:52:19 am
I had an interesting dream much like many others last night. I was married (but I couldn't tell whom to) and we had inherited a big old house. After exploring the house for several days, it seemed like, I decided to go out to the shed and see what was there. To my great surprise, I entered the door and it was more like a cottage than a shed. Very light and clean inside. I went through a small foyer into a roomy odd-shaped space that had furniture and looked a bit like a waiting room. Passing through to the next room, it was a hallway that led to another roomy space from which bedrooms spun off. I also began to encounter people, who were hanging out with each other in the bedrooms. There seemed to be a couple of families staying there. Though I didn't see small children. More like college students. I came up to one young man who seemed to be from Latvia or one of the stan countries but he spoke English well. We went into a small cafeteria, yet another room in the "shed". He told me that the people were renting from those in the big house and I told him that I was now the resident of it and would be taking them all under my wing. I left to rush back and tell my husband all of this and as I looked back at the shed, it seemed to compress itself back into a shed.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on September 02, 2016, 01:30:08 pm
I haven't remembered any of my dreams lately, I'm not sure why.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 04, 2016, 06:14:52 pm
I cannot recall ever before having a dream with an olfactory component, but I had one Friday night/Saturday morning.

I was smelling the wonderful aroma of baking bread! I woke up very confused, wondering why I was smelling baking bread, and then why I wasn't smelling it.  ???

I'm not sure if this was part of the same dream, or another dream, but I dreamed there was a new closet next to the door to my condo. I entered, and the so-called "closet" actually turned out to be a large room lined with shelves with all sorts of stuff stored on them--in particular, I remember giant-size cans of oatmeal (it wasn't the Quaker brand, but somehow I knew it was oatmeal!)! Also, there was a washing machine in a corner of the room. I pulled the machine into the center of the room, and began to do a load of laundry, and then I began to panic when it occurred to me that in the center of the room, there was no place for the water from the washing machine to drain! This may be the point where I started to smell the baking bread, but my memory isn't clear past this point.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 05, 2016, 12:44:17 pm
This seems to be my time for memorable dreams.

Last night I dreamed I was on vacation at a Renaissance faire in New England. I was with a small group of friends. There was a young woman in the group whose face I saw clearly, and I remember the face, but I can't place her.  :(  The faire was being run by the guy who is the manager of my usual watering hole. The weather was very, very hot, and I remember asking the manager if he knew if any of the faire vendors sold tights, as the pair I had been wearing for several days had become so gross from perspiration that I wanted to get a new pair. There was also a swimming pool concealed in a large pavilion tent, and I wanted to jump in the pool, clothes and all, because the weather was so hot; I didn't, though.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on September 05, 2016, 01:01:33 pm
I can't resist trying to glean a few bits of wisdom from these two dreams of yours. They both feature water and, as you can learn from googling it, water represents the unconscious mind or emotions when it appears in dreams. (This is also how some have interpreted the symbolism of water in Brokeback Mountain.) In the first dream, you are discovering resources within you that you didn't know you had. But you have trepidation about using those resources, particularly emotional ones, and are worried that if you access the cleansing, purifying and reviving effects of emotional release, it will be overwhelming or messy or upsetting.

A similar wish is present in your second dream. You desire the cool clean water of the hidden swimming pool, but you resist. You desire to hop into a new "skin". It's interesting that you refer to that place you like to go as your "watering hole". The woman is unrecognizable to you because she is standing in for someone or something else or for you. She represents a talisman that can help you find your way to the emotional wellspring.

That's just something I dreamed up. . .see if any of it makes sense!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 05, 2016, 01:22:36 pm
That's just something I dreamed up. . .see if any of it makes sense!

Oh, no, I think they're very interesting, thought-provoking ideas! Thanks, FRiend!

I just wish I could recognize that woman!

I wonder whether the fact I can't "place" her has anything to do with the fact that right now I'm trying to decided whether or not to attend the 40th reunion of my high school class next month?  ???
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on September 05, 2016, 04:47:03 pm
Last night I dreamed I was on vacation at a Renaissance faire in New England. I was with a small group of friends. There was a young woman in the group whose face I saw clearly, and I remember the face, but I can't place her.  :(  The faire was being run by the guy who is the manager of my usual watering hole. The weather was very, very hot, and I remember asking the manager if he knew if any of the faire vendors sold tights, as the pair I had been wearing for several days had become so gross from perspiration that I wanted to get a new pair. There was also a swimming pool concealed in a large pavilion tent, and I wanted to jump in the pool, clothes and all, because the weather was so hot; I didn't, though.

Interesting dream!  I think  I wuld've jumped in that pool.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 13, 2016, 11:45:14 am
Yesterday was busy, so I never got around to reporting the oddest dream that I can remember. I had it Sunday night. I was watching the commercials advertising a new TV show, apparently a sitcom, where the main character was Morticia from the Addams Family!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on September 14, 2016, 11:17:10 am
lmao!  Well, that's interesting!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on September 26, 2016, 01:50:42 pm
IMO, you're still shopping for your muse.

I had yet another dream in which I was in a large house that was new to me. I went through all the rooms, which included a large room with a stage. The house was very nicely finished and fitted out with beautiful lighting fixtures and wood plank walls. I started to get anxious thinking about what I would do with all that space. I decided to open a "vintage Christmas store" in the space with Xmas decor for sale and performances of Xmas music and such. This is a surprise to my waking self because I don't typically over-celebrate Christmas.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 26, 2016, 03:46:51 pm
IMO, you're still shopping for your muse.

I'm shopping for my muse?  ???

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I had yet another dream in which I was in a large house that was new to me. I went through all the rooms, which included a large room with a stage. The house was very nicely finished and fitted out with beautiful lighting fixtures and wood plank walls. I started to get anxious thinking about what I would do with all that space. I decided to open a "vintage Christmas store" in the space with Xmas decor for sale and performances of Xmas music and such. This is a surprise to my waking self because I don't typically over-celebrate Christmas.

Is Christmas "standing in" for another celebration?

I had a "house dream," too, about two nights ago. I was riding in the back seat of a car, my father was driving, and my mother was seated next to him. They were both still young-looking, but I don't remember if I was still a child, or what. We drove into the driveway of a nice suburban "split-level" house, with a garage. I don't remember anything of the interior of the house, or if we even went in. I just remember somehow knowing that we owned this house, but for some reason unknown to me we didn't live in it, nor were we going to move into it. We were going to continue to live int he city row house where I was actually raised. That's all I can remember.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on September 26, 2016, 06:54:12 pm
IMO, you're still shopping for your muse.

I'm shopping for my muse?  ???


buy her a toga!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 26, 2016, 08:47:13 pm

buy her a toga!

Now, now. This isn't the "stoopid question" thread!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on September 27, 2016, 09:06:58 am
lmao!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 28, 2016, 10:07:04 am
Oh, I had a whopper last night!

I was working with Michael Weatherly the actor, late of N.C.I.S. and now starring in his own TV series, Bull, (which just happens to air Tuesday evenings). He had a large but very friendly domestic shorthaired cat. I needed to leave our workplace,  but Michael didn't want the cat to follow me, and we had some effort to keep the cat from getting out of the building where we worked. We managed to keep the cat inside the building, and I finally got outside to the parking lot. I had a car, and I opened the trunk to find a strange, beige-colored suitcase in the trunk. The suitcase had a tag on it with initials; I don't remember what the initials were, just that they weren't mine. I did not recognize the suitcase at all. With some trepidation--I think I was afraid it held a bomb--I removed the suitcase from the car trunk and opened it. The suitcase was empty, but once opened it suddenly seemed to be very large and, well, coffin-sized.

Then I was back home in what seemed to be my actual condo. I seemed to be sharing the space with a short, chubby, older woman--she was also an actor that I recognized from supporting roles in various TV shows; I can't remember her name, but if I looked I could probably find her at IMDb. Anyway, somehow I knew this woman was planning to lead some sort of terrorist group in an action against the railroads, but their weapon of choice was--bows and arrows! I remember playing stupid, trying to figure out how to get away and warn the authorities, but that's the last I remember of the dream.

You know this is a real dream because I could never make up something like this!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on September 28, 2016, 02:28:56 pm
ROTFLMAO!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 10, 2016, 12:28:09 pm
Jeff, that reminds me a bit of the dream described at the end of BBM where Ennis sees Jack's can of beans outlined in lurid colors with a spoon sticking out "the kind of spoon that could be used as a tire iron."  :o

You might think I'd have a strange dream after watching the debate last night, and I did. In the dream I was like Whoopi Goldberg on The View and I was getting ready for a panel discussion that would be held just an hour or two away. Some studio underling scurries in and says, "The guy who hates women is going to be on!" So I shuffle papers and prepare a set of questions to ask him. So, the SU scurries in again and says, "The guy who hates Muslims is going to be on!" Another panic stab at developing a set of questions for the new guy. This repeats over and over again, with a guy hating Mexicans, bankers, etc. Finally, the show starts and I'm totally exhausted. The guys who file in and fill the chairs on the panel are, you guessed it, all clones of the same Orange One.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on October 11, 2016, 11:49:13 am
oh damn.....that's a nightmare!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 30, 2016, 10:24:01 am
Last night, another of my many house-oriented dreams materialized. I was back splitting up with my ex and selling the large house that we raised our kids in. My boyfriend R. talked me in to moving in to another large house but this time we would share it with another couple. I went to the house which was open for the day and many people were walking through it. I met the other couple, the woman seemed to be deaf and didn't speak but waved her hands around and smiled; she was pretty and amenable. The man was garrulous and sociable and had a rather loud voice but I liked him. R. wasn't there yet. I broke away to tour the house. I could tell you all the details, there were so many rooms and most of them did not have doors, even the bedrooms. There were quite a few staircases going here and there.

When I woke up I came to the conclusion that the dream means I actually have too many people in my life right now and I am in need of some seclusion. Fat chance of that happening any time soon, though.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on October 30, 2016, 10:39:55 am
I hope you get the seclusion you need, if only for a weekend!!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 31, 2016, 12:32:17 pm
Thanks, Chuck. I did have a nice Sunday afternoon and evening to myself and it was quite therapeutic. More of the same today until I go to R.'s house to help him hand out candy.

Having a dream like that affects me for days. I was mulling over it last night and the disturbing thing was that, at the front of the house, it wasn't designed/built very well. I was up on the 3rd floor and wanting to go downstairs via the front staircase. I went to the front and it seemed like the builders had finished up badly, because you could look down through a crack between the floor and the front wall, the facade, and see the front staircase going from the 2nd to the ground floor, but you couldn't get to it from the 3rd floor. I briefly considered jumping but then realized that there were 2 other staircases, one in the middle of the building and one on the side, that worked. Also, there was a crack between the ceiling of the 3rd floor and the facade, so you could look up and see the roof exterior. Thinking back on it, I realize that there are cracks in MY facade, that I'm unable to reconcile my exterior self with my interior self. What could be clearer? sigh. . .
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on October 31, 2016, 01:00:12 pm
I hate when a dream can affect your/my mood for days to come.  If dreams are on the average only a few seconds long, the after effects should be the same!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 01, 2016, 10:41:51 am
Fortunately after I figured out the dream's meaning it loosened its hold on me. It's actually good that dreams give us a wake-up call when needed but it can be uncomfortable sometimes.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 01, 2016, 01:44:04 pm
I had a dozy of a dream las  night.  I don't think I'll post it, but it was beyond anything I've ever dreamed before.   LOL                                                                               
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 01, 2016, 01:52:14 pm
I had a dozy of a dream las  night.  I don't think I'll post it, but it was beyond anything I've ever dreamed before.   LOL                                                                               

Oh, come on. You can't write something like that and then not tell us about it. We'll think the worst.  ;)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 18, 2016, 08:08:49 pm
C'mon Chuck! We're waiting patiently here!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 19, 2016, 12:10:15 pm
C'mon Chuck! We're waiting patiently here!

(Taps foot.) Or impatiently in some cases.  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 19, 2016, 01:05:04 pm
So, while we're waiting, I'll throw out my latest dream. I had a serious talk with myself, telling myself that I was tired of these interminable dreams about a house of some sort or other. I think I've gained enough insight from house dreams. So, my self seemed to be listening because I had a different dream two nights ago. I dreamed there was an Uber/Lyft service using planes, so I booked a plane to fly to another city. The plane arrived to pick me up and it was one of those open-air biplanes like Snoopy flies! The pilot was a dark-haired man in a red parka with a hood, so I couldn't tell much about him except that he had a nice smile. I got in and we took off and everything was fine until we got to my destination. We were flying in low and there was a stone city wall with steps going up to an archway. I realized we were going to have to go through this arch and it would be a tight fit. Also, there was a crowd going up the steps through the arch so we had to slow way down to avoid crashing in to their backs. We were basically on the ground and rolling up the steps and the pilot put out his hand against the wall to steady the plane. I realized that we were also out of gas! But it looked like we would make it, but just barely.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 19, 2016, 06:42:41 pm
Here are my dreams come to life! Escape rooms, where you have to work puzzles and follow clues to get out. How fun!! Brings out the Sherlock in me!
https://303magazine.com/2016/10/guide-escape-rooms-denver/ (https://303magazine.com/2016/10/guide-escape-rooms-denver/)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 21, 2016, 09:30:41 am
Oh my goodness!

I forgot I had put that there!   I'll try to post today, after work.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 27, 2016, 11:02:06 pm
OK, in the night between this past Wednesday and Thursday, I had a dream that was very upsetting. I dreamed that my dad had died in his sleep.  :(
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 28, 2016, 02:02:04 am
That must have been very upsetting!  :'( Did you wake immediately or did other things happen in the dream after that?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 28, 2016, 12:25:10 pm
That must have been very upsetting!  :'( Did you wake immediately or did other things happen in the dream after that?

I think I woke up pretty quickly "after I found the body." I really don't remember.

Of course, even figuratively speaking, this really is my "worst nightmare." And yet, when the time comes, I'd rather my dad pass off peacefully in his own bed instead of in a hospital--although, in fact, some of the cardiac care rooms at Lancaster General Hospital are really quite nice.  :-\
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 29, 2016, 03:14:07 pm
OK, in the night between this past Wednesday and Thursday, I had a dream that was very upsetting. I dreamed that my dad had died in his sleep.  :(


I hate dreams like that.  I have to have a "change of venue" before I go back to sleep, or I'll be back in the dream.

I need to leave the bed and go to the couch, and watch maybe 15 minutes of TV, to get the dream to cycle out of my mind.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 29, 2016, 03:18:30 pm
I had a dozy of a dream las  night.  I don't think I'll post it, but it was beyond anything I've ever dreamed before.   LOL


Well, some time has passed, so it's not as sharp as it was.......but I dreamed I was getting married to a woman.

Mom was not happy with this choice, so she decided to act out by getting drunk.  At that point my new mother-in-law called out my mom,  mom went off on  people, my new bride was then fighting with me.  If it could go wrong, it did.

We didn't even make it through the reception, she went her way and I went mine.

The dream ended with  us meeting years later...she had a great husband, and I had  a great bear of a man to hug on to.  :)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 29, 2016, 04:02:01 pm
Well, some time has passed, so it's not as sharp as it was.......but I dreamed I was getting married to a woman.

Mom was not happy with this choice, so she decided to act out by getting drunk.  At that point my new mother-in-law called out my mom,  mom went off on  people, my new bride was then fighting with me.  If it could go wrong, it did.

We didn't even make it through the reception, she went her way and I went mine.

Sounds like the plot of a Melissa McCarthy movie.  ;)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 21, 2016, 12:55:17 pm
Last night my dream was about the actual house I live in. I don't remember ever dreaming about it before. There is a "spare room" in the corner, actually a second bedroom but too small really to put a bed in. So, I use it mainly for storage and it gets a lot of use this time of year. I dreamed that some people came in and cleared out all of the stuff and put in their own stuff, making it a sort of hobby/art space. I was livid at first and went all over (here the house became the size of a middle school) to find the perpetrators, who I found in a gym, but they were too busy so I didn't get to talk to them. And, after wandering around I found all my stuff neatly boxed and labeled in a closet. I wandered around some more, feeling lost and angry until I suddenly realized I didn't feel so much angry as curious about the projects going on in the remodeled room. But, I fought against it in my head and made a big show of being put out, and talked of charging the perpetrators more rent.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 07, 2017, 10:54:26 pm
A couple of nights ago I dreamed that my dad and I were back living in the house where I grew up, except that we were getting ready to move to the house where my grandparents lived when I was a child. I was standing in my old bedroom, and I heard a noise that sounded like a gunshot. I looked out the window toward the backyards of the houses on the nest street over that faced our backyard. I saw a man who looked like some sort of Asian criminal from a TV show, and he was dragging another person--couldn't tell if it was a man or a woman--up the alley between the backyards.

I remember that a night or two before this dream, I had a dream that my mother was in, but, of course, I didn't write it down and forgot to post about it, so now I don't remember what was happening in it, only that my mother was in it. My dad was, too.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 14, 2017, 10:56:15 am
I dreamed I was playing poker with Pence.

"I have three," says he. Of course, thought I. You have three knaves.

"I'll call you back," says I.

Now, what does this dream mean? My conscious mind has forgotten how to play poker, but my subconscious mind obviously still knows.

Sometimes I scare myself.  :P
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 14, 2017, 11:46:56 am
Just one more post before I go to the class where I'm teaching sewing to refugees.

Earlier last night, I dreamed that I had to organize a rather complicated presentation that involved two screens and several presenters who had to interact. I knew instantly how to do it, because I'd just seen a George Takai play a few days before. Not Allegiance but a different play also set in WWII. Some people from my past were the players. The success of the play depended on perfect synchronization of the two screens.

Jeff, I feel for you and for all of us in these United States, as Auden would say. It's no wonder we are afraid we'll look out and see shadowy figures dragging bodies away and we wish we could go back to the days of our parents, or our grandparents.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 14, 2017, 10:35:54 pm

"I'll call you back," says I.

Now, what does this dream mean? My conscious mind has forgotten how to play poker, but my subconscious mind obviously still knows.


Okay, I looked it up and to call means to match the bet on the table. So, it means I have 3 Jacks (knaves) or better. But, who are they?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 18, 2017, 10:58:35 am
Did I ever have a lulu last night!

It seemed like I was in some sort of Western or pioneer days movie, or something.

I was with a group a people, and we were hiding out in some sort of really skanky "sanitation facility" (which, of course, doesn't fit the part of being in a Western), and we were waiting for the arrival of a wagonload of supplies. I remember thinking that our hide-out was so gross that I said that if we were attacked by Indians, I'd rather surrender than stay in our hide-out!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 20, 2017, 12:33:46 pm
I had a scary dream last night (surprise, huh) and woke up with my heart pounding. I was at some kind of convention center and I looked across the way and saw a colleague of mine, who is Chinese-American, being bullied and berated by his boss. The boss pushed my colleague into an elevator that was going up. I went over to the elevator and pushed the up button but of course, nothing happened. I looked to the side and noticed a smaller elevator. I went to get in it but it turned into a covered slide. I slipped myself into it and a suction thing came down on the top of my head and started pulling me up. There were many twists and turns and the elevator was like a tight tube around me and very dark, but I told myself to relax and breathe normally. At the top it came out at a dizzying height and I realized that, instead of an elevator, it was some kind of roller coaster ride.

The suction thing was still pulling me slowly and then it came to a stop. I looked up and was terrified that I was still a good 50 ft up in the air! I looked down and saw some people down below cleaning a small area of ground and in the middle was a puffy pillow about the size of a twin mattress. I was supposed to jump onto this?! I was near to panic and yelled to get the people's attention but since they were so far away from me, they didn't hear me. After what seemed like forever they started to notice me and look up, gesturing that I should jump. But I remained riveted to the little stand and its two arm holds. As I was waking up, I think they were starting to lash together several ladders so that I could climb down.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 22, 2017, 01:40:31 pm
Just one more post before I go to the class where I'm teaching sewing to refugees.

FRiend, this post is way overdue, and perhaps OT as well, but I've been thinking I wanted to say I think this is wonderful of you!

I didn't even know sewing was a skill you possessed, so how wonderful to share it by teaching it to others! Especially refugees!  :D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 22, 2017, 07:51:53 pm
Thank you, friend. When I started doing this I looked on it as a penance for the hatred people (even in my own family) were showing toward refugees, but now I simply enjoy it!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 01, 2017, 09:43:15 pm
I had a funny dream one night last week. I was in a store like a K-Mart or a Target, and I was looking for a new lunch bag, one with a shoulder strap. I remember looking at several and not being able to decide which one to buy.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 02, 2017, 11:03:57 am
I had another "shopping" dream last night!

My dad dropped me off at our Center City Macy's (the original John Wanamaker Department Store), and I entered through a door where there isn't actually a door in the building. I found myself in a room with lots of shelves full of shoes, and the shoes were all mixed and mingled, not in proper pairs, as if there had been a sale in a discount shoe store. I turned around, and I saw a check-out counter that was attended by a woman who had been a neighbor when I was growing up. I walked deeper into the store, looking for the men's department, and I couldn't find it. It seemed as though the whole interior of the store had been redone, and nothing was where it used to be. I saw a new department where one went to order custom-made suits. Finally I turned around and I saw a wide staircase leading downstairs, and there was a large sign with a giant finger pointing down the stairs, and the sign read "Men's Department." I had found it, although it seems I woke up before I actually went downstairs.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on February 02, 2017, 12:27:02 pm
Oh, I hate dreams like that.  You're busy walking around, and wake before you find it.

Not coooool.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 02, 2017, 01:06:02 pm
Oh, I hate dreams like that.  You're busy walking around, and wake before you find it.

Not coooool.

I don't even know what I was shopping for!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 02, 2017, 02:10:52 pm
My dad dropped me off at our Center City Macy's (the original John Wanamaker Department Store), and I entered through a door where there isn't actually a door in the building. I found myself in a room with lots of shelves full of shoes, and the shoes were all mixed and mingled, not in proper pairs, as if there had been a sale in a discount shoe store. I turned around, and I saw a check-out counter that was attended by a woman who had been a neighbor when I was growing up. I walked deeper into the store, looking for the men's department, and I couldn't find it. It seemed as though the whole interior of the store had been redone, and nothing was where it used to be. I saw a new department where one went to order custom-made suits. Finally I turned around and I saw a wide staircase leading downstairs, and there was a large sign with a giant finger pointing down the stairs, and the sign read "Men's Department." I had found it, although it seems I woke up before I actually went downstairs.

I have these dreams all the time, but not lately. In fact, I used to argue with my husband because I maintained that you have to go down to the ground floor before you can get up to the 3rd floor where I wanted to go, but he insisted that you don't have to, you can get to the 3rd floor from the 2nd floor. So, let's "unpack" your dream. First of all, your dad did drop you off at the department store of life when you became a man. Life is messy and disorganized and people do not pair up the way they should. Maybe when you sleep again, you will go down the stairs and explore what's in the Men's Department. If you do, I'm sure you'll discover valuable things about yourself and what it means to you to be a man. Be sure to note all the things you see and report on them here!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 02, 2017, 02:55:50 pm
We'll see what happens.

Thanks!

I guess life can be like a messy shelf of unpaired shoes.  ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on February 03, 2017, 11:44:28 am
I don't even know what I was shopping for!  :laugh:

Had the dream continued, you may had found it.  LOL
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 04, 2017, 01:12:56 pm
So, did you continue with your dream, yet, Jeff? Did'ja, did'ja? I'm excited to hear about the next chapter!!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 04, 2017, 01:23:57 pm
So, did you continue with your dream, yet, Jeff? Did'ja, did'ja? I'm excited to hear about the next chapter!!

No, I didn't. I don't know how to "force" myself to resume a dream.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 04, 2017, 03:07:26 pm
Lucid dreaming is the practice of suggesting to your brain what you want to dream about and being aware, during the dream and afterwards. Wikipedia says, "A lucid dream is a dream during which the dreamer is aware of dreaming. During lucid dreaming, the dreamer may be able to exert some degree of control over the dream characters, narrative, and environment." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dream (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dream)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on February 05, 2017, 07:50:44 pm
I've tried that a few  times, it hasn't worked for me yet.   I can tell I'm dreaming, and if it becomes a nightmare I can force myself awake.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 07, 2017, 02:27:27 pm
Last night I had not one but two dreams about being at a school. School dreams are tedious for me and even while I'm dreaming I say to myself, "Not again!"
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 07, 2017, 04:31:55 pm
Coincidence? I have two school dreams on the day they introduce a bill to abolish the Dept of Education.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on February 08, 2017, 04:14:14 pm
lmao!  Lee's got some psychic energy stuff going on!  ;)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 22, 2017, 12:43:54 am
Also, every few nights I have a really comic dream, so funny I wake up laughing. It's like a little gift to myself, as if in my heart of hearts, I know I need a little comic relief. I always say to myself that I must tell my friends on BetterMost about the dream, but in the sunshine of the morning, the foggy dream evaporates until all that is left is a little frisson of a smile.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 04, 2017, 02:04:16 pm
I had an upsetting dream last night. I went with my family to the train station to see off my husband with my daughter and son. My son was 16 months old and in my arms, but my daughter was, perhaps, nine years old or older (not their real spacing). My son and I got separated from the other two while I was trying to get his wardrobe and diaper bag organized. I put down my purse and forgot it/left it behind. We then wandered around for a long time looking for them and recruited several train ushers and conductors to hunt for them too. I realized with growing despair that my daughter and husband had gone off in the car that we had all come in and that my son and I were abandoned in this incredibly large crowded train station. I hid this from my son as best I could.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 04, 2017, 03:04:29 pm
FRiend, I'm sorry to learn that you had a distressing dream last night, because I had one that I find downright funny.

I dreamed that I stopped at a local convenience store for a cup of coffee, and the price for it was $7.25!  :o  (I was buying a bag of potato chips, too, but I don't remember the price of the chips.  ;D )

Being the wimp that I am, I never argue with store clerks. I expressed some amazement at the exorbitant price, but I paid it and went back out into the parking lot and got in my car. Either that's where the dream ended, or I just don't remember the rest of it, but it strikes me as very funny that I was charged $7.25 for a cup of coffee!  :laugh:  And how precise that amount was in my dream!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 07, 2017, 10:07:27 am
I have been remiss in reporting.

Two nights ago I dreamed I was seated with my mother at the dining room table in the house where I was raised. My mother was trying to tell me something about someone, but I guess she was trying to be discreet because she wasn't saying what it was or who it was about.  ???  That's all I remember.

Last night I dreamed I was in some sort of housecleaning contest. I had to dust my bedroom (the dust on the furniture was horribly thick), and I had to do it in my underwear, and I was only allowed one dust cloth along with a can of Pledge.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on March 07, 2017, 07:47:28 pm
Last night I dreamed I was in some sort of housecleaning contest. I had to dust my bedroom (the dust on the furniture was horribly thick), and I had to do it in my underwear, and I was only allowed one dust cloth along with a can of Pledge.  :laugh:

sounds like a dream I would have!   :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 08, 2017, 11:34:03 am

Two nights ago I dreamed I was seated with my mother at the dining room table in the house where I was raised. My mother was trying to tell me something about someone, but I guess she was trying to be discreet because she wasn't saying what it was or who it was about.  ???  That's all I remember.

In many dreams you've told us about, your mother is trying to tell you something. Once, you said you thought she was telling you to take care of your dad. But now I'm starting to think she (actually you, yourself) is trying to tell you something else. The reason, IMO, why "she" doesn't come right out and say it, is because it's something you don't want to hear. You're blocking "her". Maybe you trust one of your other divas to give you the message. Or, you seem to be ready for some waking visioning exercises to uncover the conundrum. Or, hypnosis.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 08, 2017, 03:39:27 pm
In many dreams you've told us about, your mother is trying to tell you something. Once, you said you thought she was telling you to take care of your dad. But now I'm starting to think she (actually you, yourself) is trying to tell you something else. The reason, IMO, why "she" doesn't come right out and say it, is because it's something you don't want to hear. 

That's plausible. My immediate assumption upon awakening was that my mother, to whom I had not come out before she died, "knew" or "knows," but in the circumspect and Victorian way of my people didn't want to come right out and say it. I can see that such a dream might be provoked by a guilty conscience, but why I should have such a dream at this time escapes me. It crossed my mind that she might have been trying to tell me to come out to my father, but my response to that would be, "Mother, what possible good is there in asking an 87-year-old man to deal with that?"

Trust me to know my dad. He's a simple man. If it were possible that I might marry--or even have a permanent steady "boyfriend"--within what remains of his lifetime, there would be a very good reason for telling him, but since neither event seems likely, I see no reason to tell him. I would feel kind of selfish making him deal with something that I'm sure he'd rather not deal with when there is no purpose.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 08, 2017, 08:30:05 pm
I see no reason either, unless perhaps he might be secretly fretting about your being single, wondering if you're lonely, or--here's a thought--maybe he wants to tell you that he knows and it's all right, but he doesn't know how to tell you so. But, on the other hand, most parents when they get to that age are so absorbed with their own problems that they barely notice that their children are human beings. Your mom could shed some light on this. . .let's hope she opens up and spills the beans soon!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on March 08, 2017, 11:01:38 pm
I see no reason either, unless perhaps he might be secretly fretting about your being single, wondering if you're lonely, or--here's a thought--maybe he wants to tell you that he knows and it's all right, but he doesn't know how to tell you so.

that could be.  I remember thinking I was spilling a big secret, and mom told me she knew I was gay by the time I was 8.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 09, 2017, 10:22:36 am
that could be.  I remember thinking I was spilling a big secret, and mom told me she knew I was gay by the time I was 8.  :laugh:

Mothers usually do know. Or so I've heard.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on March 09, 2017, 08:37:36 pm
well, my mom sure did!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 16, 2017, 12:44:19 pm
"My best night's sleep happens when I can't tell where I end and the bed begins." (Someone posted this today.)

Another house dream last night. The house I was moving into was rather crowded because there were about a dozen people helping me move in. It was a fabulous house and was all furnished already. I remember one room had a high ceiling and floor to ceiling windows on one wall and around a corner. When you dimmed the lights you could see out the window to a sunken area with a lovely pool and statuary but the main spotlight was all sorts of wild animals peacefully gathering and drinking from the pool, their eyes glittering in the moonlight. We would gather here, sip wine and watch, exclaiming over the sights with hushed voices.

I also noticed that the house gave onto a high-end shopping mall through double doors that always seemed to be open. I took a wrong turn one day and ended up in the mall with my bathrobe on.  :laugh: There were several well appointed bedrooms but each one seemed to be occupied and I began to be a little nervous. I went into the kitchen, the basement, the dining room. . .all beautiful and interesting and colorful. There was one octagonal room that was a step up from the others and was decorated in a sort of "Day of the Dead" style. There was a bed in the middle of the room, so I went towards it to claim it. There were a pen and paper on top of the bed and some other things that I removed and then discovered that it was an intricately carved wooden coffin and that this was a room for displaying the remains of a dead person. There was a skeleton sitting in a chair wearing a sombrero. I found it to be slightly creepy but very clever, and then I went on to try to find a room for myself. I was sure there was a perfect room for me somewhere in that house and was determined to find it!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on March 16, 2017, 05:44:06 pm
did you find the room?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 16, 2017, 11:14:10 pm
No, not yet, but I'm just sure it's there, somewhere! Besides, that would take all the fun out of it, finding the room.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 17, 2017, 09:33:03 am
I guess I had a really strange one last night, so strange that this time it stuck with me.

I was supposed to appear in a television commercial!  :laugh:  The commercial was to be filmed on the main campus of Temple University, where I worked from 1990 to 1998. I was something like three hours late for the appointment.  :o  I was wearing a dress shirt and tie, and a nice gray tweed jacket. I needed to take the subway to get where I needed to, and I had to buy more tokens in order to ride the train. There was a new sales location near my home, and it was laid out very strangely, so I had a difficult time finding the sales counter. The clerk was one of the front desk attendants from my building, and he gave me two large packages of tokens but only charged a couple of dollars, which seemed very strange to me, so strange that I asked if he was sure that was correct. I was also concerned because the new tokens were considerably smaller than the older tokens I had in my coin purse, more the size of a dime than the size of a quarter.

I don't remember taking the subway, but then I remember being at my destination. I apologized profusely for my lateness to a young woman who seemed to be in charge of things--she was carrying a clipboard that made her look very official. She showed me into a small room with a chair that reminded me of a barber shop chair, and she told me to wait.

That was the last I remember.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 17, 2017, 02:30:49 pm
Very interesting dream, friend Jeff, and one which bears many touchstones of your previous dreams and musings. But, no mother or other muse. Or, do you think the young woman with the clipboard may have been one?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on March 18, 2017, 03:20:05 pm
interesting dream.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 19, 2017, 02:05:51 pm
Last night I also had a dream that involved a university! I dreamed I was getting on a plane with R. to go to a university town where he was set to give a gardening lecture. At the last minute, I asked the steward to stop the plane from taxiing and let me off because I actually didn't have a ticket and wasn't scheduled to go with him. As I was leaving, I asked where he was going and he said "Brown University" (this is in Rhode Island). In my dream, I stopped to think, "Wasn't that where friend Jeff was going in his dream?" But, of course, you were going to Temple U., not Brown.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 19, 2017, 06:54:49 pm
Very interesting dream, friend Jeff, and one which bears many touchstones of your previous dreams and musings. But, no mother or other muse. Or, do you think the young woman with the clipboard may have been one?

Don't know.

While I slept poorly last night (see my blog), I did get some sleep, and I had a dream that was a real doozy--sort of a sex dream, but not quite.  :o  8)

The first thing I remember was coming out of a dark, old-looking bedroom and stepping into the kitchen of my maternal grandmother's house. Then I went outdoors and found myself on the streets of Philadelphia just north of my home. It was very, very late at night--around 3 a.m.--and I remember fretting because I needed to be up around 6 a.m. I remember feeling it was very, very dangerous to be out on the streets at that time of night by myself, and the next thing I remember I was with one of the young guys who works as a bartender at the Usual Watering Hole. I won't give his name (though that's probably needlessly stupid because none of you know him, and he won't see this post). In my opinion he has a very handsome face, and I have it on reliable authority that he was formerly a go-go boy. He no longer quite has a go-go boy body, but he's not in bad shape. For years I've looked on him to lust after him in my heart.  ::)

Anyway, the next thing I remember, we're going back into my maternal grandmother's kitchen, and I opened the door that I had originally exited from into the kitchen. A long stream of people now came out of the bedroom; it seems as though there was a party going on in that room! When everyone was gone, Handsome Bartender went in and lay down on the bed. I remember standing in the doorway and feeling very hesitant and confused because I wasn't sure if he wanted me to come in and lie with him, or not.  ???

That is the last I remember of the dream.  :-\
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on March 19, 2017, 09:33:37 pm
I haven't had any real memorable dreams lately, other than a recurring work related one.

I'm at my job, and am expected to do a task that  was assigned to me, but also one that I was never trained to do.  And while I'm going nuts trying to figure out what needs to be done, I keep getting interrupted by people telling me that my hours are  changing.

::)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 18, 2017, 01:02:46 pm
Strange dream in the early morning hours. I wanted to take a young man to lunch. Perhaps I should say an older boy, for he was about 12 or 13 and perhaps a refugee or immigrant. We went to the lunch counter and I stepped up to order but there was no menu on the counter and no blackboard with the choices. I said several times, "May I look at a menu, please" but the people behind the counter just ignored me and kept rushing to and fro and talking amongst themselves. I kept repeating myself, louder and louder, and then I decided that we should step aside and let the next person go as I went in search of a menu.

I then found myself between the ordering spot and the line of stools at the counter, sifting through a lot of debris looking for some semblance of a menu. Someone gave me a small envelope with some papers in it, but they were all receipts, post-it notes, gum wrappers and the like. I was getting more and more frustrated and I think the young man just slipped away at some point, taking himself elsewhere for his meal. All around me, people were queuing up to order or lounging around at tables or against the wall waiting for their food to come out. The people behind the counter were now sitting quietly at desks. Finally, one of the women stood up from her desk and said, "There is no menu". She then sat down, flustered, and all the other desk-sitters glared at her.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on April 19, 2017, 05:42:45 pm
oh, that is a strange one.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 21, 2017, 12:09:49 pm
I had a couple of strange ones last night.

First of all, I had a bad night's sleep because the cough from my cold kept me from sleeping well; Nyquil seemed not to work last night. (Tonight I'll try scotch. ;) )

In the first dream, I knew that I was supposed to be in a bar, but it looked more like a tiny, overcrowded store of some kind (narrow aisles, tall shelves completely stocked with stuff). There was a check-out counter where I "knew" the bar was supposed to be, one of those where the check-out is essentially a window surrounded by more stuff for sale. The man who owns The Usual Watering Hole was behind the counter. That's all I remember of that dream.

In the other dream, I was meeting with an overweight woman (who sort of looked like someone in my department at work, though I have almost no contact with her) in a white lab coat to discuss the result of some medical tests. She informed me that I had seroconverted and was now HIV+. (Note: As of my December 2016 physical, I am definitely NOT "positive.") I remember feeling resigned, if depressed, and saying something like, "I suppose it was inevitable." That's all I remember of that dream.

I have no idea what might have brought on either dream.  :(
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on April 21, 2017, 08:26:55 pm
Ugh, that's an awful dream!

any bizarre dreams I've had have all seemed to be work-related.  ::)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 01, 2017, 09:21:44 am
Well, here's one for the books. Last night I dreamed I became a father!  :o  :laugh:

I remember seeing the birth of the child, but not the face of the mother, so I have no idea who she might have been. I saw my own father, but I don't remember what his role was in the dream. I also remember some confusion in that I was told first that I had a son, and then instead that I had a daughter.

I have no clue what this dream might be trying to tell me, but I suspect I know from where the imagery might have come. I have been working on a couple of fan fictions; one involves the birth of a child (a son), and the other involves a father who is unable--prevented by circumstances--from openly acknowledging his son.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 01, 2017, 12:37:08 pm
Writing a story is a lot like giving birth, so I say you're dreaming about becoming an author!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 01, 2017, 01:17:12 pm
Writing a story is a lot like giving birth, so I say you're dreaming about becoming an author!

Might be! Now that you mention it, I've been wrassling for several weeks over whether to post these stories, but I've been reading some that are so absolutely well written--such good stories, well plotted, with the characters very true to their originals--that I really hesitate.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 01, 2017, 07:15:28 pm
I think that Lee hit the nail on the head with this one.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 01, 2017, 08:59:16 pm
It was easy, since I've done both.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 01, 2017, 10:19:33 pm
It was easy, since I've done both.

Which one hurts more, writing or childbirth?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 02, 2017, 09:41:56 am
haha, that's hard to say. Childbirth hurts more but is over faster.

As Dorothy Parker used to say: “I don’t like to write but I love having written.” I would say the same about childbirth.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 02, 2017, 10:22:09 am
As Dorothy Parker used to say: “I don’t like to write but I love having written.”

I've never heard that before, but I agree with Dorothy!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 02, 2017, 06:12:25 pm
haha, that's hard to say. Childbirth hurts more but is over faster.

good answer!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 03, 2017, 10:54:51 am
I am certainly having peculiar dreams this week, and it strikes me as even more peculiar that I'm remembering them!

Yesterday I found some Youtube videos of interviews with some of the cast of The Musketeers (done at a comic-con in Manchester, U.K., in 2016). I suspect this may have had something to do with one dream I had last might. This dream, which was almost a comedy, was like an "alternative universe" fanfiction (the kind where the writer takes characters, like Ennis and Jack, out of their "real" environment and puts them in some entirely different environment). I was with "D"Artagnan" and "Constance," except we were in a Western!  :o  :laugh:  I remember standing in the street of what looked like a typical town set for a Western movie, and looking up at a house on a hill outside the town, and thinking to myself, "This is just like Little House on the Prairie!"  :laugh: I knew that the three of lived in the house together. The scene then shifted to the house. "Constance" went outside with a basket of laundry  ??? while I was having a chat with "D'Artagnan," who was wearing a pink shirt (the kind with two rows of buttons up the front).  ??? I remember that he and I decided that if we were ever attacked by hostile Indians Native Americans, he would fight them and I would be the one to run for help because I'd be terrible at fighting!  :laugh:  Then the scene shifted, and I was outdoors looking across a small valley at a hillside where "Constance" was hanging up that laundry.  :laugh: As I watched, suddenly a group of outlaws appeared. I looked around, but I was alone, so I drew my six-shooter and fired, and I was very surprised that I actually hit one of the outlaws!  :laugh: (In RL I haven't fired a gun--a rifle--in probably 40 years, and when I did I was a terrible shot!) That's all I remember of that dream.

I swear I'm not making that one up! I suspect the particular characters appeared because those Youtube videos yesterday were interviews with the actors who played those roles. I would also suspect the "laundry" part is related to my anxiety over--I hope--finally getting my new clothes dryer repaired next week. Where the "Western" element came in I'm not sure, though perhaps it stems from a thought I had a few days ago. I'm following along in a very good, very well-written "canon" Musketeers fanfic, and I remember thinking that cowboys may have a similar role in the U.S. mythos as Musketeers have in their own European setting--both are good fighters and manly men who place a high value on personal honor.

And if that little comedy wasn't enough, I then had a dream that I was in this old, abandoned house; someone was with me, but I can't remember if I even saw this person's face. Anyway, I was in a room that was full of antiques. I remember seeing a 1920s-style kitchen stove, and an early type of electric icebox, and thinking that both could be worth a lot of money because they were in excellent condition. Then I remember searching through a silver chest, looking for "sterling," but all I could find was "plate." That's the last I can remember of that dream.

Could it be that dream was provoked because recently I've been thinking again about all the stuff in my home that I'd like to get rid of? I have no idea where the antique kitchen appliances came from, but I actually do have a chest full of silver-plate flatware that I'd like to get rid of, except that nobody buys "plate," only "sterling."
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 03, 2017, 04:56:28 pm
Both of those dreams are very interesting, friend. I notice that you are starting to have more insight into your dreams and you are letting them influence your waking experiences. As this happens, I predict that, more and more, you will have more dreams and remember them and use their insights.

The first dream made me think of other historic archtypical stories that have been or could be reinterpreted in the Western mileu. I immediately thought of Don Quixote and The Lone Ranger (especially the Armie Hammer/Johnny Depp version). That is quite rich fodder for your fiction.

The second dream was interesting to me because you noticed all the things in the room. I theorize that you yearn for the old-time ways of doing things and the gadgets of today leave you cold. You are also searching through the debris of life, looking for the silver among the dross.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 03, 2017, 06:55:24 pm
I had a crazy/fun dream  the other night, and I know exactly what caused it.
 

:laugh:


I found a website that lets you read comics free online.  While I don't read new comics (I'd pay for those) I will read older comics that are no longer available for sale.   The stories I was reading were super hero ones, so (of course) I dreamed I was a super hero.

Anyway, I was in a team of heros, I didn't recognize any of them, my powers were magic based, sort of like a witch, shooting bolts  of  magic energy out of my hands.  However, my main power was that I was empathic, able to feel the emotions and feelings of others, and (if necessary) pull those feelings from them,  to help them heal.

The fight against the villains was taking place by a cemetery, and one of the villains had a bull-horn like device that amplified the feelings of the restless spirits, and it would hit me like a physical force.  Think of someone growling/screaming, and amplify it by 10.

The funny part was, I had fallen asleep with the window open, and at one point in the dream, just when I was being  surrounded by that loud growl/scream, two motorcycles sped past my apartment, with their motors screaming....I woke with a start, and almost shot up in the bed. 

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 03, 2017, 08:40:38 pm
My powers were magic based, sort of like a witch, shooting bolts  of  magic energy out of my hands.

Did glitter come with those bolts of magic energy?  ;D

But we all know you're a good witch, Sweetie!  :-*
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 04, 2017, 09:40:10 am
Unfortunately last night I dreamed nothing nearly so entertaining as Tuesday night.  :laugh:  I remember seeing my grandmother, but I remember nothing of the context.  :(
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 04, 2017, 07:01:23 pm
Did glitter come with those bolts of magic energy?  ;D

But we all know you're a good witch, Sweetie!  :-*


Hardy har har!


Actually, I've just come close to finding a similar outfit to what I had on in my dream.  LOL   Although, not as form fitting as in the pic!   :laugh:


I can remember black leather boots, black jeans, a red t-shirt, black leather jacket and red gloves.  I searched "super hero leather jacket" and found a "redone" version of Superboy from the 90s that had a similar look.  I didn't even know they remade him this way.



(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/6f/7e/fc/6f7efcf42c67648d8f00ccf4bbef025f.jpg)


As far as my powers, I know exactly the source.  I was binge reading "New Teen Titans" and one of the characters was a young woman named Raven.  Her mother was human, her father, a demon set upon taking over the universe.   Raven spent much of her time suppressing her own emotions, so her father's influence would not take her over, and make her evil.   As in my dream, my powers matched hers.





(https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/6/68452/1477038-raven.jpg)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 04, 2017, 10:48:31 pm
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/6f/7e/fc/6f7efcf42c67648d8f00ccf4bbef025f.jpg)

Nice tights. ...  ;D

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 05, 2017, 04:52:49 pm

...my main power was that I was empathic, able to feel the emotions and feelings of others, and (if necessary) pull those feelings from them,  to help them heal.

What a great superpower to have! This should be developed into a graphic novel. . .or a movie!! Reminds me a bit of the counselor on the Jean-Luc Picard version of Star Trek. You are a superhero, Chuck!!

I've had one or two more restaurant-themed dreams lately. Either there was no menu, or I couldn't find anything I liked. I think it mirrors my thoughts about the immediate future. There seem to be no good options going forward on the national scene. I'd like to go to another country for a few months, but obligations keep me here.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 05, 2017, 07:04:29 pm
What a great superpower to have! This should be developed into a graphic novel. . .or a movie!! Reminds me a bit of the counselor on the Jean-Luc Picard version of Star Trek. You are a superhero, Chuck!!


While I'm amused at the idea of being a super hero in a comic book, it would basically be a rip-off of what Raven was, from DC comics.   Here are three pages of the series Raven was in, The New Teen Titans, a group of  teen-aged heroes that included  Robin, Wonder Girl, Changling, Cyborg, Starfire, Raven, Kid Flash, Aqualad, and others during the course of the series' run.






The page below has Raven using her magics to teleport into a room.




(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/19/16/3e/19163e3572043af84d77baf78c61e405.png)





The page below has a young woman (Francis Kane) developing magnetic powers she can't control.   As Raven attempts to help her, objects start flying towards them.  The large black figure you are seeing is Raven's "Soul-Self"  She can release her soul and its energy from  her body, and in this instance, it surrounds both Raven and Francis, shielding them from the flying objects.



(http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae155/dpVolacdp/NewTeenTitans017-09.jpg)




In this last page, Raven's teammate Cyborg is hurt in battle.  Raven uses her empathic abilities to remove his pain and injuries.



(https://static2.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11117/111178634/4953463-empathy+raven+heals+cyborg+of+his+pain.jpg)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 05, 2017, 07:05:11 pm
Nice tights. ...  ;D

 :laugh:

Well, like I said, in my dream I was wearing a looser-fitting jeans and t-shirt.  LOL
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 18, 2017, 09:30:02 am
I had another whopper last night. I was back living in the house where I was raised. I was talking to a next-door neighbor, whom, in reality, I haven't seen in, like, 40 years. We were discussing an antique desk that came from the home of my deceased maternal grandparents. It was a great old oak desk--all I remember of it--and my neighbor was insisting I should take it. I kept saying that as a piece of furniture, it was too big, and I wanted to keep my furniture small because I expected to move a lot, and small furniture is easier to move and fit in small spaces than large furniture.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 18, 2017, 10:34:15 am
...I kept saying that as a piece of furniture, it was too big, and I wanted to keep my furniture small because I expected to move a lot, and small furniture is easier to move and fit in small spaces than large furniture.
Very good logic. Yet, something in you is drawn to this awkward piece of furniture. What is it?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 18, 2017, 11:18:11 am
Very good logic. Yet, something in you is drawn to this awkward piece of furniture. What is it?

Because I've gotten tired of Queen Anne in dark cherry and have come to like oak.  ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 18, 2017, 07:03:24 pm
Between Chuck calling azaleas "a vase of flowers" and you saying you prefer oak over cherry, I've got to say you're a pair of deuces that "ain't never no good"!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 18, 2017, 09:55:24 pm
:laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 22, 2017, 09:40:38 am
What a night!

First, there was the dream that one of my coworkers had used two of the water glasses that go with my dishes to give lemonade to two visiting celebrities (not sure any more if the celebrities were ever actually named), and then didn't get the glasses returned, so that now I only had six glasses instead of eight, not enough to cover the eight place settings I have. I was really angry.  :laugh:  (I had lemonade at lunch yesterday, so I suppose I had lemonade on my brain.)

Then there was a second dream. I was asleep on the sofa when my dad came home. The trouble was, I couldn't remember where I was. First I thought I was in a hotel room some where. Then I knew I was in a house, but the question was, Which house? I could see the stairs from where I was lying, but the sofa in my dad's current house is in the same place relative to the stairs and the front door as in the house where I grew up, so I couldn't figure out which house I was in.

And then something happened that really terrified me. I think this one was the kind of "dream" you have when you first awaken. Anyway, I was "awakened" by some sort of brief banging noise. I figured it was my bedroom door. (In reality, that sometimes happens when the air conditioning kicks in; I think it creates a draft that somehow pulls the bedroom door against the jamb, even when the door is already closed.) I was convinced someone had come into my bedroom, but I had no idea who it was. In the reduced light and without my eyeglasses, it looked like someone was standing with arms crossed in my bedroom, leaning against the bookcase that is just inside the door, just looking at me. I was absolutely terrified because I had no idea who this person was. It also seemed that this person was wearing work boots, jeans, and a red buffalo-plaid shirt with the sleeves rolled up to the elbows (kinda hot, actually, when I think about it  :laugh: ) but I could not see his face. I tried to call out to ask if it was my dad--I mean, I didn't dream I said this, I know I really did try to say it out loud--but I was so frightened the word literally stuck in my throat and I couldn't say it. However, in a presumably short time, I squinted/didn't put on my glasses, and realized that the "person" standing in my bedroom was really just the arrangement of books in the bookcase (e.g., a row of books with light/white covers was what gave me the impression of the "crossed arms).  :laugh: At that, the fear more or less evaporated, and I went back to sleep and slept until daylight. But I hope I never have a "dream" like that again!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on July 01, 2017, 11:32:39 am
What a series of dreams!   You think you were kinda awake for the third one, were you unable to move?  It sounds like a bout of sleep paralysis.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 03, 2017, 12:30:56 pm
I had an interesting, sci-fi type dream last night. I dreamed about a straight couple and I was attracted to the man and also liked his girlfriend. My feelings for the woman were respect and friendship but my feelings for the man were sexual in nature. The only way I could figure out to resolve this was to enter an alternative reality, like in Interstellar, where I was invisible to everyone. But the attraction remained and it was so strong that I found myself sucked into a bathroom where he was taking a shower. I was pressed up against the glass wall of the shower and could hardly move. There was a lot of steam in the shower, so I couldn't see the man very clearly.

The glass was wet and slippery so I was able to slither off of it and out the bathroom door. I sat in a heap in a large room and then he came out of the bathroom and walked around, ignoring me. I started walking around and discovered a magnetic energy between us, so that I was simultaneously drawn towards him and repelled, so that I had to stay about two feet away. He stopped and looked thoughtful and I realized that he was sensing my presence. He walked slightly in my direction. I backed up to stay away from him. We walked hesitantly around the room, me backwards and him forwards. He speeded up a bit and, though I tried to dodge him, we grazed each other a couple of times. Although he couldn't see me, I knew he could probably feel me if we touched. I was very confused and ashamed to even be there. I wanted to leave but this strange magnetism wouldn't let me.

The woman came in and couldn't see me or sense my presence. The man eventually persuaded her that there was an invisible someone in the room. They both started walking around trying to make contact. It was doubly difficult to try to dodge them and they made contact with me a time or two but I eluded them. I discovered that if I turned my back to them, the polarity was reversed so that I was drawn to them and smashed into their sides or backs. It took all my strength to extricate myself. They didn't seem to feel the impact but it did strengthen their knowledge of my presence. This strange dance went on for it seemed like forever, and then the man sat down, thought for a while and then said, "Lee?" I replied "yes" and I'm not sure if they heard me or not, and I woke up.

I searched my memory for who this couple might be, and finally realized that it's a couple who live nearby. It's funny because I've hardly even paid attention to the man, only the woman. I doubt I could pick him out in a police lineup. 
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on July 04, 2017, 08:34:04 pm
whoa, very interesting dream.   I loved the whole cat and mouse game of invisibility.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 03, 2017, 10:55:50 am
For several months now I've been having different dreams in which one thing is constant: I am high up, sometimes in the air, sometimes on a cliff or traveling on a high bridge. I'm looking down from a dizzying height. Last night I dreamed my cat and I were in a little flying house, like the one in The Wizard of Oz. We flew through the air and landed on a larger flying cooler. The kind that you put ice and beverages in and take on a picnic. So after a time, I got out of the house, which shrank more or fell away, and was clinging onto the cooler with the cat on my back. The cooler slowly rotated backwards and the cat fell off, but grabbed onto my sock with her claws. I reached down, pulling my foot up and easily picked her up and cradled her between the cooler and myself, so she was secure. We were floating through the air and I was not frightened at all, even though we were about 20,000 feet off the ground.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 04, 2017, 09:44:43 am
Here's one for the books.

Last night I dreamed I was having dinner by myself (the usual situation) at the Usual Watering Hole; there is a dining room, so there was nothing odd about the location.

My server was a woman with short brown hair, wearing a white--or maybe off-white--pants suit (do they still call them pants suits?). At the next table over sat a young woman with an olive complexion and long, dark hair. She tried to engage me in conversation. I wasn't interested in chatting, so I put her off, but I tried to be polite to her.

The server brought my dinner, but she never even brought me a glass of water, so I had to eat my dinner without water.

I saw the manager, whom I consider a friend (really, I do) standing by the bar. I was going to say something to him about my server, but I don't think I had a chance to because that's all I remember. I probably woke up that that point.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 04, 2017, 12:35:45 pm
This dream seems simple but I think it is really quite deep. I see some unmet needs being presented here. The first thing that stands out is that you went to the Watering Hole, but you didn't receive any water! So, this says to me that your most fundamental needs aren't being met somehow.

The young woman sitting at the next table also had some needs to reach out to you in conversation but these were also unmet. Did she look something like the person in this photo, perhaps? The two women are contrasts. . .one has long dark hair and the other has short brown hair and light clothing. (Yes, they still call them pants suits.)

Then, you saw the manager and you wanted him to know about your unmet need for water. Were you reluctant to approach him about it? It frustrates me when I wake up just as the dream is getting to its essence, but when I think back about it, I can often decide how the dream will resolve itself.

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 04, 2017, 01:22:18 pm
This dream seems simple but I think it is really quite deep. I see some unmet needs being presented here. The first thing that stands out is that you went to the Watering Hole, but you didn't receive any water!

I never thought about that!

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So, this says to me that your most fundamental needs aren't being met somehow.

Actually, that makes a lot of sense!

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The young woman sitting at the next table also had some needs to reach out to you in conversation but these were also unmet. Did she look something like the person in this photo, perhaps?

As a matter of fact, she did. (She looks sort of Native American.)

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(Yes, they still call them pants suits.)

Good to know!  ;D

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Then, you saw the manager and you wanted him to know about your unmet need for water. Were you reluctant to approach him about it? It frustrates me when I wake up just as the dream is getting to its essence, but when I think back about it, I can often decide how the dream will resolve itself.

I don't remember feeling that way. I think I woke up before I had the chance.  :(

I forgot to mention that the manager was wearing a shirt that was patterned like on of those gingham table cloths--red and white squares. In reality he never wears anything that light, only dark colors.

I think you really nailed this one. Thank you!

(OT, but one reason I feel I would not have been reluctant to approach the manager is because IRL I have approached him about issues, mainly the sound from the piano room at the back of the bar, past the dining room, where people sing show tunes. A microphone and a loudspeaker are used, and sometimes  the sound is so loud that it drowns out conversation all the way in the front of the bar. I have politely said something to the manager, but so far no change has been made. Jokingly, I once asked my friend the security chief if I would get in trouble if I went into the piano room and knocked over the speaker, and his response was, "I wouldn't care."  ;D )
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 05, 2017, 11:12:27 am
There are two other things I find interesting in this dream. The first is the two women. You expect the server to provide food and water, but she doesn't follow through with the water. The other woman offers conversation, which you don't want and don't think you need. And then there's the manager, who you know from experience will not follow through with the peace and quiet you want.

Then, there's the other room, from which disturbing noise drifts in to the quiet dining room. There, people are singing show tunes and enjoying loud camaraderie. You've chosen the dining room, but sometimes the attractions of the other room might beckon to you, maybe? And you've chosen the server over the other diner, but the server lets you down.

On a personal note, I went to an Oktoberfest in Lucerne with Adam and Jim Clark one time, and almost all of the guys were wearing those red and white checked shirts. It was very rowdy, with a band leading everyone in singing, toasts, big steins of beer, and much conversation with the others at the long table (even though we didn't speak Swiss or German). We all had a great time! But then returned to our reserved selves the next day. Jim even exchanged shirts with a guy who was with his girlfriend but she wasn't paying any attention to him. A bunch of Swiss guys tried on Adam's cowboy boots. It was a hoot!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 05, 2017, 02:07:03 pm
There are two other things I find interesting in this dream. The first is the two women. You expect the server to provide food and water, but she doesn't follow through with the water. The other woman offers conversation, which you don't want and don't think you need. And then there's the manager, who you know from experience will not follow through with the peace and quiet you want.

Then, there's the other room, from which disturbing noise drifts in to the quiet dining room. There, people are singing show tunes and enjoying loud camaraderie. You've chosen the dining room, but sometimes the attractions of the other room might beckon to you, maybe? And you've chosen the server over the other diner, but the server lets you down.

Well, the point about the women seems interesting, but I'm not sure the point about the manager applies. In the dream nobody was singing show tunes loudly. This is something that happens in reality almost every Saturday night, but it did not occur in the dream. In the dream I was going to complain about the server for not bringing me water, but it seems I woke up before I could do that.

I'm not beckoned to join the people in the piano room to sing show tunes. For one thing, they're all theater queens who follow musicals like a religion. I don't know any musicals later than 1965. I was in the dining room because, well, I was having dinner.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on October 05, 2017, 07:06:25 pm
Lee, I really enjoy reading your interpretations!   You seem to be spot on.

They say that dreams represent  your inner feelings and such, and in this dream Jeff wasn't getting needs met.   Jeff, haven't you talked about your need to ramble about, but not being able to go, or feeling that you can go?  And isn't one of the reasons you feel you can't go is that your father would need you, and you wouldn't be there for him?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 05, 2017, 08:53:03 pm
Lee, I really enjoy reading your interpretations!   You seem to be spot on.

She certainly has a gift for probing meanings.  :)

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They say that dreams represent  your inner feelings and such, and in this dream Jeff wasn't getting needs met.   Jeff, haven't you talked about your need to ramble about, but not being able to go, or feeling that you can go?  And isn't one of the reasons you feel you can't go is that your father would need you, and you wouldn't be there for him?

Yes, but this is just life when you're an only child of a very aging parent. I accept that.

In a manner of speaking I really won't even be able to rest completely when I'm in Provincetown in a little more than two weeks because I have a history of being called home from there because my father had a health issue.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 21, 2017, 09:17:03 pm
I had the most interesting dream last night. It was kind of a thriller! It was situated some years earlier when my family was all together. My son was under the care of a physician, and my then-husband and I went to see the physician about it. He was quite a handsome and compelling man, the "spitting image" of Kevin Costner, but with dark, close cropped hair. My son was there briefly, but left and then husband and KC got into a discussion. Husband said he had a similar medical problem and wanted a consultation about it. I just looked on, didn't say anything and kept thinking.

The doc didn't examine him but made some superficial comments. Then, he changed the lighting in the room and gradually some other guys starting drifting in, all dressed in dark clothing. The doc made some transitional comment and then turned on a presentation, which was like a fancy spread sheet. It had a stock ticker going along the bottom and also a lot of facebook likes and loves floating across. It was something about energy stocks. Husband seemed kind of shell shocked. I realized that he was being pressured to invest. Doc kept saying "coal". Finally, I said, "Well, I'm sure the coal industry will continue for a long time, but eventually it will fizzle out." The doc looked at me like I didn't know what I was saying, but husband knew I had spent about 20 years working in that industry. I was trying to figure out how to get him out of there, but the other people in the room kept edging nearer and nearer and had threatening body postures. I decided to make a bold move.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 23, 2017, 12:18:12 am
That does sound  like a thriller.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 06, 2017, 10:35:11 am
Unusual that I had two dreams last night that I remember.

In the first, I was getting some sausage out of the freezer to cook,  :laugh:  and someone, I don't know who, was telling me it wouldn't be any good. He was wrong.

In the second, I was coming from somewhere with a huge flower pot and a bag of potting soil to repot the Norfolk Island Pine tree that sits on a table in my dining room.

I think the first was a memory of a recent conversation with someone where we were discussing the food at IHOP.  :laugh:  In that conversation I clearly remember mentioning that IHOP has a combination meal where you get a large-ish link of smoked sausage instead of those greasy little links of breakfast sausage.  :P

In the other, the Norfolk Island Pine is clearly dying. It should have been repotted a long time ago, but I have no way to get someplace to get a pot and soil except by public transportation, and I refuse to carry a large flower pot and a bag of soil on a bus.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on December 06, 2017, 08:10:20 pm
I haven't had any memorable dreams in a while.  However, I have been sleeping better.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 07, 2017, 12:08:34 pm
Sounds like a couple of guilt dreams, Jeff. You are too hard on yourself, but it's not easy to change the course of dreams.

I have a fig tree that is in a large pot and I don't want to put it in an even larger pot so I "root prune it" usually at this time of year. You spread newspapers or a sheet down, lay the plant on its side and work it out of its pot. Trim roots at the bottom and about 1 inch around the sides. Fan the roots out a little if they are intertwined. Don't be afraid to trim back quite a bit. Put some fresh potting soil in the bottom, replace the plant in the pot and add fresh soil around the sides. Put the plant back in its place, water, and then prune the top of the plant as needed. The plant will need some rest time and then it should have a flush of new growth.

With an evergreen, the new growth is in the form of "candles" little nubbins in a brighter color at the end of the stems. You can snap these off in order to contain the growth.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on December 07, 2017, 07:48:03 pm
I had one last night I can barely remember.

I was  in NYC,  standing on a sidewalk looking at three young adults,  curled  up and napping together on the sidewalk.  I don't know why they were there, but they soon woke up and walked into a building.   I was still standing there, when a flow of water, no deeper than 1/4 inch,  but filled the whole sidewalk and street just flowed around  me and past me, down the block.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 11, 2017, 01:26:50 pm
Last night I had a dream that I consider very sad.

I was in Provincetown walking west on Commercial Street by myself. I was just about up to the hardware store. In reality, the store formerly had a parking lot next to it, and you could see right down to the bay. Lately the building has been expanded so that you can no longer see the bay, but in my dream the parking lot was still there, with its unobstructed view of the water.

I was feeling very alone and very sad about it, and wondering what was wrong with me that I've never been able to find a permanent boyfriend. (In the dream I wasn't "counting" the one who died after less than a year back in 1999. In reality I do think of him at least one time a day, sometimes more.)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 22, 2017, 07:57:09 pm
I was feeling very alone and very sad about it, and wondering what was wrong with me that I've never been able to find a permanent boyfriend. (In the dream I wasn't "counting" the one who died after less than a year back in 1999. In reality I do think of him at least one time a day, sometimes more.)

I'm sure Ennis, had he lived by the shore, would have been having similar thoughts, friend. But I don't think there's anything wrong with you. There's something major wrong with our generation. . .a whole generation of gay men were decimated. It's hard to find a soulmate when you're gay, because the numbers are working against you, but many more times harder in this generation. It breaks my heart. Still, I think there's always hope if you're willing to be patient and not grow bitter and close minded.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on December 23, 2017, 03:23:11 pm
There's something major wrong with our generation. . .a whole generation of gay men were decimated. It's hard to find a soulmate when you're gay, because the numbers are working against you, but many more times harder in this generation. It breaks my heart.

very true!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 28, 2017, 09:30:45 pm
For a couple of months, all my dreams focused around being at a great height. It was getting ridiculous. I always ended up several hundred feet in the air, and I started saying to my dreaming self, "Oh, come on, not that again!"

Now, it's something different. Every dream features a crowd. Since I hosted a very full house for Christmas, maybe that theme has played itself out. I hope so.

Last night, a new theme emerged. I dreamed that my house was broken into by two young men. I stood up to them. I was kicking and hitting one of them and although he didn't fight back, he didn't leave either. I kept calling out to my daughter to call 911, as if she were in the bedroom. But, she wasn't there. She was safely home in her own home. Then, I realized that the renters upstairs could hear me if I screamed loud enough. I gathered up my breath and. . .before I could scream out loud, they ran out. I had a few choice words for them as they were leaving! I was so mad, I was fuming!

I know what caused this dream. My son's gf told me at Christmas that she had moved into a house at the corner of 44th and Fenton. I know that area and it is a high crime area. I'm concerned for her, and for my son when he visits her. She has met her neighbors and they've promised to look out for her, so that is a bit of a reassurance.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on December 29, 2017, 11:07:39 am
Now, it's something different. Every dream features a crowd. Since I hosted a very full house for Christmas, maybe that theme has played itself out. I hope so.

My dream last night featured a crowd, but I don't remember it enough to go into it.  Somehow a swimming  pool figured into it as well.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 03, 2018, 10:09:04 am
I had a whopper again last night: I dreamed that Zac Efron mentioned Bettermost on the Today show!  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

Actually, I think I can account for the origin of all three of these elements.

Bettermost more or less speaks for itself.

As for Zac Efron, over supper last night I read a capsule review of The Greatest Showman in The New Yorker. Hugh Jackman stars in the movie, but Zac Efron has a role, which I had not known, and he was mentioned in the review.

As for the Today show, it was announced that Hoda Kotb is now the cohost (replacing the disgraced Matt Lauer), along with Savannah Guthrie. I heard that yesterday.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 03, 2018, 12:08:33 pm
There's also serious's mention of Zak on the NYE thread: "I'm trying to picture how Broadcast News would look today. OK, I can see Rachel McAdams, or maybe Ann Hathaway, playing the Holly Hunter role, and maybe Zac Ephron, or maybe one of the Hemsworths, as William Hurt. It could work!"

With Hunter coming up for an Oscar nomination for her role in "The Big Sick" this year, there are a lot of comparisons to "Broadcast News" where she received her first Oscar nomination.

My dream last night featured a crowd, but I don't remember it enough to go into it.  Somehow a swimming  pool figured into it as well.

Was the crowd of people in the swimming pool? Hmmm, that could be deep!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 03, 2018, 12:13:51 pm
There's also serious's mention of Zak on the NYE thread: "I'm trying to picture how Broadcast News would look today.

I saw those posts but I skimmed them very, very quickly. I didn't concentrate on them. I think it more likely that it was the mention in TNY that put his name into my head.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on January 03, 2018, 06:44:28 pm
Was the crowd of people in the swimming pool? Hmmm, that could be deep!


I can't remember.  Some of them may have been.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 25, 2018, 08:20:37 pm
I had a crazy dream early this morning. What caused it, I think, is that I went to a Seder dinner at church yesterday that ended with a rich chocolate torte. So rich, I think it was just too much for me. Anyway, the dream involved a group of people in a very contemporary building being harassed by a bad guy who had a pill that would explode when it became wet. He was threatening us with it when suddenly a woman who looked like Rachel Bloom of "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend" stepped forward, snatched the pill from him, and swallowed it.

A loud cry went up from the crowd and we ran to the other side of the building where there was a balcony. I found myself with a young girl about 9 years old or so, and I tried to find a place sheltered from the building where she would be safe from the impending explosion. Most of the other people were standing on the balcony in view of the woman who could be seen through the glass doors leading to the balcony. She was still standing up, but her eyes were closed and her body was fizzing and bubbling. I knew she was going to explode shortly and I knew it would be worse than all the other gawkers thought it would be. I found a place behind a steel girder and I hunched over the girl, covering her up with my body. But the explosion did not happen and I was waiting and waiting. Finally, I woke up and I had overslept nearly an hour.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on March 27, 2018, 06:24:29 pm
Wow, that is one hell of a dream!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 02, 2018, 09:37:20 am
I had a whopper last night. I dreamed there were aliens in my bedroom!  :laugh:

Their heads were shaped like light bulbs, not the modern curlicue light bulbs but the old-fashioned kind. I woke up, and I made a quick, furtive, and. I admit, frightened, look around the room, and then I told myself that it was a dream because I'm too old to be of interest to aliens.  :laugh:

I'm sure I know what inspired the dream: Last Saturday, when I was dusting a bookcase in the living room, I pulled out a copy of a book that was a response to Whitley Strieber's Communion, which was his account of his alleged contact with aliens who first showed up in his bedroom.

As for being too old to be of interest to aliens, I read somewhere that aliens are only interested in younger males and females because, um, their sperm and eggs are better than those of older males and females.  ::)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 02, 2018, 09:54:26 am
Nonsense, everybody knows that aliens are only interested in older humans who have much more, and more interesting stuff in their brains to study!  :P
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 02, 2018, 11:39:41 am
Nonsense, everybody knows that aliens are only interested in older humans who have much more, and more interesting stuff in their brains to study!  :P

Oh, no. They want young people with good sperm and eggs for interbreeding.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 02, 2018, 06:38:30 pm
Perhaps it wasn't a dream.....perhaps you were visited!

Oooooooeeeeeeooooooo!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 15, 2018, 09:17:53 pm
I had a very interesting dream last night. I was walking near my home, passing under the scaffolding of a building undergoing renovations. Next thing I knew, I was seated on a bench on the sidewalk just west of my building. Behind the bench is a large excavation for the foundations of a new high-rise; the excavation has been there at least five years now because the developer has been unable to secure financing and backing to proceed with the project. The excavation is surrounded by a fence, which is decorated with enlargements of photographs and other art created by students from the University of the Arts, which is only a block away.

Anyway, also seated on the bench was a man I did not recognize who was a new resident of my building, He was wearing tan trousers and a window-pane design shirt. He was also overweight. I was telling him about the neighborhood, and how it has changed in the many years I've lived in it. Gentrified was the word I used. I also mentioned that the neighborhood is the city's gayborhood. He disliked the idea of living among lots of gay people, so I told him he should not have moved into the neighborhood.

That's all I can remember.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 15, 2018, 09:30:40 pm
Very interesting dream!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 16, 2018, 06:42:02 pm
I also mentioned that the neighborhood is the city's gayborhood. He disliked the idea of living among lots of gay people, so I told him he should not have moved into the neighborhood.

:laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 27, 2018, 08:41:33 pm
There's an interesting story about lucid dreaming on this week's Radiolab:

https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/218948-ghost-stories (https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/218948-ghost-stories)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 28, 2018, 12:06:54 pm
had a strange one the other  day about work.

I was at work, but on the teller line, not in back office anymore.  We were trying to close for the day, but a whole group of people came in 5 minutes before closing.  One of the employees started yelling at them, asking why they all came in at that time.

Then, a repair man  came in to fix the air conditioning, and for some reason, that made all the customers leave the bank.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 30, 2018, 09:32:13 am
Some odd snippets from last night:

(1). I was making my bed.  :laugh:

(2). I was attending a sort of block party in my neighborhood. I clearly recognized structures in the neighborhood, except I was leaning against a wall in a location where in actuality there is a parking lot. Somebody was standing next to me. He was overweight, with blond hair that looked like it had been cut by somebody putting a bowl on his head and trimming around it. As I watched, a squirrel came up the sidewalk. Overweight blond guy reached down, and the squirrel ran up his arm and sat on his shoulder.

(3). I was at an appointment with the doctor who manages my trigeminal neuralgia. There was a nurse in the room. She was dressed the way nurses used to dress, in a white dress, white hose, white shoes, and a weight cap. She looked like the actor who portrays Tom Selleck's administrative assistant on Blue Bloods. The doctor and I were discussing the emotional problems I've been having with turning 60 years old. He told me his age was 55, which I'm virtually certain is not true in RL.

I can venture suppositions as to where the nurse business came from. On Saturday my dad and I ran into the woman who had been the head nurse and office manager in my pediatrician's office. At one point in the conversation, I mentioned that I could still see her in her nurse's whites from when I was a child. She responded that today nurses dress so "you can't tell them from the cleaning staff." (Incidentally, she still wears her hair the way she did in about 1963. She must be past age 80 at least, and she's still going strong, as the saying goes.)

As for Tom Selleck's administrative assistant, recently I was reflecting that I was glad they were giving her more air time. In early seasons she didn't do much more than open Selleck's office door and announce visitors. In one season not too long ago, she had time off to have a baby (at one point she was visibly pregnant). But this last season she was given more to do, and in one episode one of the subplots actually involved her. I think she is well cast in the role. She projects firm but quiet confidence. I like her, which is why I was glad she was given more to do. (Incidentally, she is capable of more demanding roles. In an episode of Law and Order: Special Victims Unit from this season, she played the distraught mother of a child who had been abducted by his father.)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 30, 2018, 10:38:44 am
(2). I was attending a sort of block party in my neighborhood. I clearly recognized structures in the neighborhood, except I was leaning against a wall in a location where in actuality there is a parking lot. Somebody was standing next to me. He was overweight, with blond hair that looked like it had been cut by somebody putting a bowl on his head and trimming around it. As I watched, a squirrel came up the sidewalk. Overweight blond guy reached down, and the squirrel ran up his arm and sat on his shoulder.
Good on the squirrel. Somebody loves that guy, even though he is unattractive!

... she still wears her hair the way she did in about 1963. She must be past age 80 at least, and she's still going strong, as the saying goes.)

As for Tom Selleck's administrative assistant, recently I was reflecting that I was glad they were giving her more air time. In early seasons she didn't do much more than open Selleck's office door and announce visitors. In one season not too long ago, she had time off to have a baby (at one point she was visibly pregnant). But this last season she was given more to do, and in one episode one of the subplots actually involved her. I think she is well cast in the role. She projects firm but quiet confidence. I like her, which is why I was glad she was given more to do. (Incidentally, she is capable of more demanding roles. In an episode of Law and Order: Special Victims Unit from this season, she played the distraught mother of a child who had been abducted by his father.)

Two new muses for you in your journey!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 30, 2018, 10:44:05 am
I wonder why I dreamed about making my bed?  ???

A made bed is an orderly thing. Perhaps the dream relates to my feelings that my home has become disorderly because I simply have too much stuff.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 30, 2018, 06:25:03 pm
A made bed is an orderly thing. Perhaps the dream relates to my feelings that my home has become disorderly because I simply have too much stuff.

Are you hoping to accomplish something?   I was once told (not by my parents :laugh:)  that I should make my bed every day.  That way, even if everything else goes wrong all day, I can still say I accomplished something by having made my bed.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 30, 2018, 06:38:12 pm
Are you hoping to accomplish something?   I was once told (not by my parents :laugh:)  that I should make my bed every day.  That way, even if everything else goes wrong all day, I can still say I accomplished something by having made my bed.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on May 31, 2018, 05:49:08 pm
And to be honest, because of that, I always make my bed!   LOL
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 01, 2018, 09:21:09 am
I had such an odd dream that I had to check and see if it was full moon time and, yup, just a day or so ago!

My buddy EDelMar called me to join in a party he was going to. So we and at least a dozen other people piled into cars and drove to a building on the edge of a golf course in SE Denver. I'd always thought it was a church, or maybe the course's clubhouse. It was starting to snow so I was glad I had on my rubber boots. We trooped through a parking lot and under the building and up some stairs, growing into a crowd. Through an office and out onto a deck and then up some more stairs to a restaurant, following a trail of multicolored papers. Then, in the lobby, we had to wait for the staff to prepare the tables. A few people from the first seating were lingering.

We were a jolly crowd but I was distracted by a woman's anthology stacked with other books on the floor. I picked up it and started reading a story by Doris Lessing and got so wrapped up that I didn't notice everybody was being seated. I went into the restaurant and saw that EDelMar was with a crowd at the largest table and there wasn't a place for me. But wait. . .was that him? He looked different. So I went to other tables looking for him or for a place to sit, anyway. I finally sat at a table with mixed people, a woman my age, a family, an African American couple. We had a good time, the food was very good and there was a short show with two singing cowboys (really!) Then I found myself standing with a few guys on a perch looking down at the crowd. People went through, jugglers, mimes. Then a scowling Trump came by and put something on the ground in front of us. It looked like a Faberge egg and opened up to show beautifully colored fabrics and lace, and further opened to show a gilt nest with a small cow and chicken in it, peacefully nuzzling each other. We all said "awww" but were skeptical and then I realized this whole party was arranged by Trump to appease the people.

We started filing out and down towards our cars. It was slow going because of the crowds. I broke away and went to stand by the car. But it was snowing and I realized I was in my stocking feet, so I went back to get my boots. I noticed that two men were following me. I was getting threatening vibrations from one but I realized the other one was following me to protect me. The threatening one confronted me but didn't touch me. By then, I had rejoined the crowd and tried to find out if any of them were police. The two men and I and a couple of other guys were talking about what is the definition of "assault" in a congenial way, and I was trying to make the argument that he had assaulted me even though he hadn't touched me. But then I left the crowd, climbed the stairs again, followed the path of papers toward the other stairs that led to the restaurant, but the floor turned into a canvas tent and the path petered out. I looked into the shadows and thought that I was not going to get my boots back.

Realizing that I was dreaming, I started to make up hopeful scenarios for how this dream might end, but then I heard stirring above me of the other residents and my cat's mewing, and I woke up.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 01, 2018, 10:09:00 am
We were a jolly crowd.

Jolly is a word that doesn't seem to be used much anymore. That's a shame. It's a nice word. Maybe you could even consider it onomatopoetic.

You might say the same about mewl, or mewling ("whimper," or "whimpering"). The last time I cam across mewling was in a porn story.  :-\

Shakespeare used mewling in the "All the world's a stage" speech in As You Like It.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on June 01, 2018, 08:23:10 pm
wow, Lee.  That was some dream!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 04, 2018, 11:38:50 pm
Jolly is a word that doesn't seem to be used much anymore. That's a shame. It's a nice word. Maybe you could even consider it onomatopoetic.

Interestingly, I was watching Frankie and Grace tonight and the main subject was the spelling bee, where the first word was onomatopoetic.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on June 05, 2018, 09:29:46 am
that's one heck of a starting word
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 16, 2018, 10:59:47 am
Another weird one last night.

I had trouble falling asleep, so I shouldn't be surprised I had a weird dream.

I was a guest at a wedding. It was a church wedding, and the service was to be presided over by my church's former assistant minister.

The chancel area of the church was all done in white and gold. Everyone was dressed in white, the bride and her attendants, the groom and his attendants,  the minister, even me.

And the wedding was taking place in Charleston, South Carolina!  :laugh:  I have no idea how I knew that. I just did.

That's all I can remember.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on July 16, 2018, 06:17:30 pm
*wags finger at Jeff*

Tut tut, only the bride should wear white!

:laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: andreaxme on July 17, 2018, 03:45:10 am
i know dictionary of dreams site (https://www.astrologyjunction.com/dreamdictionary/) had an article about this dream lol!!!!!!!!!!!  I cant find the article anymore but whateverz lol i just gave u the site, who ever finds it let me know

Do u all believe in dream interpretations?????????

My sister in Wyoming has like a dream book, but idk like i like it but im an a debate with myself
(by the way, if u call can tell me how to add a super cool like emoji avatar here that would be awesome
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 17, 2018, 11:24:12 am

Do u all believe in dream interpretations?????????

In a word, YES.

And, btw, welcome to BetterMost, andreaxme! You'll have a cup of coffee, won't you? Piece a cherry cake?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Kananaskis on July 17, 2018, 01:21:59 pm
Do u all believe in dream interpretations?????????

I, for one, believe that  e v e r y t h i n g  (preferring not to speak for others) I dream is inextricably linked to my subconscious, be it my regrets, desires, fears, or even some seemingly trivial stuff that somehow gets embedded in my mind on a daily basis.

I have read somewhere that, if I remember rightly, every night you gain access to your own personal psychotherapist who understands you better than anyone else in the world. So it seems worthwhile to learn how to make the most of it.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 17, 2018, 01:39:44 pm
I, for one, believe that  e v e r y t h i n g  (preferring not to speak for others) I dream is inextricably linked to my subconscious, be it my regrets, desires, fears, or even some seemingly trivial stuff that somehow gets embedded in my mind on a daily basis.

I tend to agree with this. Many times I have been reasonably able to connect something that has happened to me, or that I have seen or read, in my waking life, to something that has appeared in a dream. It isn't necessarily something that happened during the day before I sleep and have the dream. It may be something that has happened at some recent time, just not immediately before I have the dream.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on July 17, 2018, 07:08:03 pm
I had a dream the other night that I was at the Jersey shore, playing the boardwalk games of chance and such.

Of course, my parents were there with my brother, sis-in-law, niece and great nephew, so I saw pics put up on Facebook, so that's why that dream came up.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 18, 2018, 09:19:30 am
Oooh! I had a good one last night!

I dreamed I actually heckled a politician who was running for office as a Trump supporter!  :laugh:

I accused him of harming poor people by taking away their health insurance.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 18, 2018, 10:46:15 am
Yes, the treasonous orangutan appears in our dreams and turns them into nightmares.  :'(

Here's how I'm interpreting my latest dream and I invite your thoughts too.

My buddy EDelMar called me to join in a party he was going to. So we and at least a dozen other people piled into cars and drove to a building on the edge of a golf course in SE Denver. I'd always thought it was a church, or maybe the course's clubhouse. It was starting to snow so I was glad I had on my rubber boots.
My friend is not exactly a party animal, but he does believe in getting people together to have a meaningful shared experience, as in the time he dreamed up the Brokeback BBQ in 2009.

I was distracted by a woman's anthology stacked with other books on the floor. I picked up it and started reading a story by Doris Lessing and got so wrapped up that I didn't notice everybody was being seated. I went into the restaurant and saw that EDelMar was with a crowd at the largest table and there wasn't a place for me. But wait. . .was that him? He looked different.
This reminds me of my college years when I got distracted by feminism and lost track of my friends.

I finally sat at a table with mixed people, a woman my age, a family, an African American couple. . . . there was a short show with two singing cowboys (really!)
This mirrors my empty nesting years where I have a diverse group of friends. Anyone care to conjecture what the singing cowboys stand for?

Then I found myself looking down at the crowd. People went through, jugglers, mimes. Then a scowling Trump came by and put something on the ground ... a Faberge egg ... with a small cow and chicken in it, peacefully nuzzling each other. We ... realized this whole party was arranged by Trump to appease the people.
My feelings as horrifying spectacles happen daily.

We started filing out and ... I noticed that two men were following me. I [was] talking about what is the definition of "assault" in a congenial way, and I was trying to make the argument that he had assaulted me even though he hadn't touched me.
My "me too" moment.

But then I left the crowd, climbed the stairs again, followed the path ... toward the other stairs ... but the floor turned into a canvas tent and the path petered out. I looked into the shadows and thought that I was not going to get my boots back. Realizing that I was dreaming, I started to make up hopeful scenarios for how this dream might end. . .
My trepidations about the future, losing my sturdy boots and the way forward disappearing.  :'(
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on July 18, 2018, 06:45:30 pm
that's a pretty concise interpretation there, Lee!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 21, 2018, 11:47:07 pm
I had kind of a goofy dream last night and feel compelled to tell somebody about it. You are IT, and I'll try to keep it short.

I was invited to a party given by some Japanese person. Japanese parties are different, I learned, including the fact that you get an outfit that you're supposed to wear. It was kind of a cute outfit, a little juvenile looking, but all in fun. So, I went to find a place to change into the outfit. But, wherever I went, there were people. A group of Japanese young ladies, giggling over stuffed animals. A group of Japanese men in gray suits, lounging on some sofas. I was getting increasingly stressed as the event wore on and I couldn't find a single private place to change my clothes. Finally, I decided NOT to wear the special clothes, and then I woke up. Your thoughts?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on October 22, 2018, 06:43:40 am
You refuse to change for others, you are going to be your own person.


I had a dream as well last night.

I received a phone call from a man I had never met.  He found my FB page online and wanted to meet.  He gave me his name and I found him online.  He was a veterinarian, and we met up.  He looked very "80s" ,  John Stamos hair, jeans, big, white high tops.  We drove around, talking, and having a good time.  We stopped at my job for some reason, where he saw my work station, and he gave me a kiss in front of everyone.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 05, 2018, 10:33:55 am
He looked very "80s" ,  John Stamos hair

Mmm. '80s John Stamos. ...  ;D

And he kissed you?  :o

 ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 05, 2018, 10:36:06 am
Very odd one last week, which I forgot to write about.

I walked into an office, and three of my four colleagues from my first job in Philadelphia were there. I greeted everyone, and they were all glad to see me. There was an empty desk, which, somehow, I knew was mine, and I sat down at it.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 05, 2018, 01:26:45 pm
Interesting office-related dreams from both of you.

I don't understand what you would find odd about your dream, Jeff. Were you uneasy? Was it creepy in some way? Did something seem wrong?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 05, 2018, 04:24:15 pm
Interesting office-related dreams from both of you.

I don't understand what you would find odd about your dream, Jeff. Were you uneasy? Was it creepy in some way? Did something seem wrong?

It seemed odd because that job came to an end 20 years ago, and I haven't seen any of my former coworkers since the early 2000s. It came out of the blue. There would seem to have been nothing to trigger such a dream. I am a believer that dreams do not come out of the blue. They are triggered by something, and there seemed to be nothing to trigger this one. It was NOT an anniversary of the end of the job.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 05, 2018, 10:13:07 pm
Mmm. '80s John Stamos. ...  ;D

And he kissed you?  :o

 ;D

Hell yeah!  It was a nice dream!!!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 05, 2018, 10:18:03 pm
Okay, that makes sense.

I had a dream that was definitely triggered by something I had seen on TV. I had watched the episode of "Frankie and Grace" where Grace takes off her false eyelashes and extensions and waves them at her boyfriend Nick, and then wipes off all her makeup. She stands before him defiantly, thinking perhaps that he'll run screaming in horror, but he just comes close, embraces her and says, "I'll take it."

In my dream, I was attempting to put lotion on my lips from a small vial, but every time the lotion spilled onto my neck. And I would have to massage it in to my skin and then begin again. It seemed to go on forever.

But other dreams I have don't seem to be triggered by a recent event. Instead, they seem to be me trying to make sense of my story over a period of months, or years.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 05, 2018, 10:23:55 pm
It seemed odd because that job came to an end 20 years ago, and I haven't seen any of my former coworkers since the early 2000s. It came out of the blue. There would seem to have been nothing to trigger such a dream. I am a believer that dreams do not come out of the blue. They are triggered by something, and there seemed to be nothing to trigger this one. It was NOT an anniversary of the end of the job.

I often have dreams of old jobs.  When I started working for the bank, I would dream about the supermarket.   Later, when I started working for  the commercial lending area, I would dream about being back  at the branch.  LOL
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 09, 2018, 10:30:37 am
I had a wild night last night.

I remember at one point I was reading a newspaper (?) ad for a biography of Vivien Leigh.  :laugh:

Then I was spending the night in what seemed to be a Victorian house. I got out of bed, pulled the curtain aside, and looked out the window, and it was raining. Then I went to the bathroom, and I remember washing my hands and looking out the window again. It was still raining, but now there was a dusting of something on the ground, on patches of bare earth where there was no grass, and I couldn't figure out if it was frost or snow.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 10, 2018, 02:44:11 pm
Hmmmm....I wonder what that would mean?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 13, 2018, 11:54:23 am
My dream last night was very bizarre. I was in my parent's home in Oklahoma City. . .odd because I never did live there. My father, a couple of other family members and I were sitting in the garage (we had moved the cars out) and listening to a country music song on the radio. It had an upbeat verse about being "high" and then a quiet verse about being "low" that ended on a darker note. My father went over in the corner behind the water heater and when he came out he had morphed into my daughter's husband, was wearing a Carhartt coat like Ennis's, and was crying. I told him, "Yes, I also cry when I hear that song."

The second verse was particularly moving and contained the words, "To rest, to sleep, perchance to dream. To slip away from my mind's stream."
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 13, 2018, 12:53:20 pm
The second verse was particularly moving and contained the words, "To rest, to sleep, perchance to dream. To slip away from my mind's stream."

Some songwriter was at least passing familiar with Shakespeare.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on November 14, 2018, 04:50:57 pm
The second verse was particularly moving and contained the words, "To rest, to sleep, perchance to dream. To slip away from my mind's stream."


Oh, I like that lyric!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 30, 2018, 02:49:54 pm
I've been forgetting to tell a dream I had a few nights ago.

I wasn't sure if the setting was my dad's current home, or the house where I was raised, but now I suspect it was the latter because my mother was in the dream. I saw her quite clearly, dressed in the housecoat she used to wear to make breakfast every morning.

I, on the other hand, seem to have been wearing a partially undone tuxedo. I was wearing a white pleated-front shirt. The collar was open, and there was a black silk bow tie hanging around my neck. I was wearing black trousers and black patent leather shoes.

As my mother watched, I carefully descended the basement stairs, only to find about three inches of water on the basement floor.

That's where I woke up.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on December 30, 2018, 08:34:41 pm
Hmmmm....that's an unusual one.   

*waits for Lee to come in and analyze*
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 31, 2018, 11:25:28 am
haha, what a compliment, Chuck!! How can I resist!!

Myself, I've had dreams about various houses so often that I looked up what it's supposed to mean. It turns out that you can substitute the word "self" for "house". So, in this dream you are the self of your youth. Your mother appears in your important dreams and, although she doesn't seem to say anything in them, you know she is trying to communicate with you. Depending on your beliefs, you could say this is the actual spirit of your mother or the part of your brain that stores memories of her, or your conscience, or whatever.

She is wearing her regular attire, but you are dressed as for a special occasion. So, I surmise that in this dream, you are in a period of transitioning away from the life of your youth and towards an adult life, one of concerts, parties, special occasions, etc. She is urging you to go down, within, submerge yourself and examine your most innermost thoughts. What do you think you would have done if you hadn't woken up just then?

This dreaming is important to do when one is facing a challenge, as you are. It strengthens the mettle.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 01, 2019, 12:35:09 pm
I suppose dreams can have more than one level of meaning, deep and one shallow, or more mundane?

Sometime before the dream, I had been contemplating wearing my tuxedo shirt for New Year's Eve, with the collar open and the sleeves rolled up. In fact I did this.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 01, 2019, 02:49:20 pm
I didn't comment on the tux aspect of your dream because I wanted to think more about it first. I'm glad I waited! I've now spent a pleasant hour learning about the "casual tuxedo look", the history of the tuxedo, and watching tuxedo videos! In this one, Fred Astaire not only dances in tux and tails, but keeps his jacket buttoned the whole time!!

https://www.facebook.com/valkilmer/videos/1113462582168693/UzpfSTExNzgxODAwODc6MTAyMTc2MjY1MDEwNzI1MDk/ (https://www.facebook.com/valkilmer/videos/1113462582168693/UzpfSTExNzgxODAwODc6MTAyMTc2MjY1MDEwNzI1MDk/)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 01, 2019, 06:17:39 pm
This is the look I was going for, except that my shirt has a pleated front and a wing collar, and I wasn't wearing braces.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on January 01, 2019, 06:18:19 pm
Very interesting interpretation, Lee!

I haven't had any dreams that I can remember.  At least not lately.


Jeff, I like that look!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 07, 2019, 06:25:42 pm
My dreams lately have always had a point where I was looking down from a great height. I started to get tired of this happening, so whenever I was looking down and the ground starting retreating away from me, I would say to my dreaming self, "Oh come on, you don't have time for this!" and then a funny thing would happen. The scene would start to wobble and then zoom in and out and I would look away and then go on with my dream. Problem solved!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 07, 2019, 11:41:22 pm
Jeff, I like that look!

I also wore my black brocade Western vest so I could carry my pocket watch.

A year or so ago Jarrett Ott sang in a opera in Philadelphia. I forget if it was La Boheme or La Traviata. I didn't see it, but someone who did told me at one point he took his shirt off on stage.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on January 08, 2019, 07:52:51 pm
Oh, those dreams would freak me out.  I would hate looking down from a great height!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 18, 2019, 09:44:46 pm
I won't bore you with the details, but all of my latest dreams have involved groups--or crowds--of people. The latest one featured a dozen or so people who were moving in with me to a group home. Hmmm, wonder what that's all about!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on January 21, 2019, 03:41:32 pm
Must be related to the renter situation!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on February 05, 2019, 06:26:32 am
Oh, I had a pair of odd dreams over the weekend.

One dream I was back in my old position of a bank teller.  I was in my old branch, and  there was a bad snowstorm out.  I had all the tellers prove out their tills and go home.  I was trying to do the same, but I was surrounded by friends, some local, some Brokies, and they were all in my way, keeping me from getting my job done so I could get home.

The other dream, I was living in a trailer, but for some reason, had a big, plushy couch.  I was sitting on the couch, and I could see an indent where something was sitting, but it was invisible.  I could feel threatened by it,  and I kept telling it to leave, but it would just laugh or speak sarcastically at me.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 05, 2019, 10:59:32 am
I've had some doozy dreams lately too, friend! But first, let's look at yours. . .

In the first dream, you were able to get your fellow tellers to put the priority of getting home safely first, but your own priorities were clouded by other people and your job needs. Does this address the issue of intermingling of your personal and professional actions? You have always prided yourself on your ability to manage your job and your life, but at the dream level you are perhaps not so confident. Sometimes that's a good thing. I like it when I dream about something complicated that I'm going to do and arise in the morning with all the logistics worked out. But other times it can be exhausting.

In the other dream, let me throw out the idea that the invisible person sitting on the couch with you may be another aspect of. . .you! Maybe, the snarky you? The yin to your yang? Or vice versa? Maybe you feel threatened by certain impulses that you don't feel you can control? There's a dichotomy about the comfortable sofa inside the little trailer. You might feel that you are being lulled into a less-than-ideal situation. The sofa might be "window dressing" that tries to make up for some deficiencies that you perceive in your situation? Does any of this ring true?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 05, 2019, 12:09:26 pm
I'm about to forget my dream of last night so I'll write it down posthaste. I was in the house I grew up in, a mid-century suburban ranch style house. I was just visiting, home from college, and didn't have much in the way of luggage with me so I was having trouble outfitting myself for a date. My date, a young guy in a suit, looked somewhat like the young Joseph Gordon-Leavitt. We had grown to know each other in high school but hadn't dated, and now he expressed his great interest in taking me out. But I couldn't get myself dressed and had on the craziest outfit of a dress, leggings, and an old fashioned apron. My leggings had rips in them and when I was taking them off, I accidentally got lipstick on my legs. When I went into the bathroom to clean them, the bathroom was all torn apart in the midst of being renovated. The bathtub had fallen in and was full of leaves. I despaired of ever getting myself presentable but there was no one around to go tell my date that I would be a no-show.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 05, 2019, 12:31:35 pm
The other dream, I was living in a trailer, but for some reason, had a big, plushy couch.  I was sitting on the couch, and I could see an indent where something was sitting, but it was invisible.  I could feel threatened by it,  and I kept telling it to leave, but it would just laugh or speak sarcastically at me.

Did you remember to paste numbers on your mailbox?  ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 05, 2019, 12:35:22 pm
I'm about to forget my dream of last night so I'll write it down posthaste. I was in the house I grew up in, a mid-century suburban ranch style house. I was just visiting, home from college, and didn't have much in the way of luggage with me so I was having trouble outfitting myself for a date. My date, a young guy in a suit, looked somewhat like the young Joseph Gordon-Leavitt. We had grown to know each other in high school but hadn't dated, and now he expressed his great interest in taking me out. But I couldn't get myself dressed and had on the craziest outfit of a dress, leggings, and an old fashioned apron. My leggings had rips in them and when I was taking them off, I accidentally got lipstick on my legs. When I went into the bathroom to clean them, the bathroom was all torn apart in the midst of being renovated. The bathtub had fallen in and was full of leaves. I despaired of ever getting myself presentable but there was no one around to go tell my date that I would be a no-show.

Does going on the date represent something you want to do in RL?

Does being unable to get properly dressed and ready for the date represent you somehow sabotaging yourself to keep from doing something in RL?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 05, 2019, 03:17:10 pm
Does going on the date represent something you want to do in RL?

Doe being unable to get properly dressed and ready for the date represent you somehow sabotaging yourself to keep from doing something in RL?

Very good questions. Maybe on some level I'd like to be college-aged again and experience that thrill of knowing somebody wants to be with me (if only for superficial reasons). Maybe I'd like to see JG-L in more roles! But I fear that the real reason is just that I've been asked to attend some upcoming concerts and events and I want to dress festively but would rather not have to go out and shop. I went to the Wizard of Oz ballet last weekend and my outfit came together smoothly but I was nervous about it.

I'm not sure why I was back in my old house but maybe it had to do with my being somewhat obsessed with fashion when I was that age.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on February 05, 2019, 06:21:59 pm
Did you remember to paste numbers on your mailbox?  ;D

:laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on February 05, 2019, 06:22:53 pm
In the first dream, you were able to get your fellow tellers to put the priority of getting home safely first, but your own priorities were clouded by other people and your job needs. Does this address the issue of intermingling of your personal and professional actions? You have always prided yourself on your ability to manage your job and your life, but at the dream level you are perhaps not so confident. Sometimes that's a good thing. I like it when I dream about something complicated that I'm going to do and arise in the morning with all the logistics worked out. But other times it can be exhausting.

In the other dream, let me throw out the idea that the invisible person sitting on the couch with you may be another aspect of. . .you! Maybe, the snarky you? The yin to your yang? Or vice versa? Maybe you feel threatened by certain impulses that you don't feel you can control? There's a dichotomy about the comfortable sofa inside the little trailer. You might feel that you are being lulled into a less-than-ideal situation. The sofa might be "window dressing" that tries to make up for some deficiencies that you perceive in your situation? Does any of this ring true?


Oh, I like your suggestions.  I'll need to think on these.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 13, 2019, 09:10:42 pm

Oh, I like your suggestions.  I'll need to think on these.

Have you had the chance to think about it, and do you have any further insights?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: TAYKIR38 on February 14, 2019, 02:53:41 am
I personally believe in dream interpretations because by experience, they have come true, but i read books
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on February 14, 2019, 07:57:26 pm
Have you had the chance to think about it, and do you have any further insights?

Not really......I should spend some time this weekend pondering.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 07, 2019, 11:43:41 am
Friend Chuck, sometimes you can make progress by settling down for the night with the intention of continuing your dream. Try it and let us know.

I have had several nights of exhausting dreams where I was trying to get something accomplished but couldn't. I have also been surrounded by large groups of people in my dreams and they mostly were looking to me to provide something. I'm hoping to break this trend by getting away for a few days and being mostly by myself.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on March 07, 2019, 10:45:36 pm
Oh, I hope you can break the trend!  Feeling exhausted from dreams is not good.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 12, 2019, 07:17:27 pm
I had a very strange dream last night. Unfortunately I can only remember fragments. I remember seeing the woman on my team at work who walked out one day late last month and never came back. Then I remember that I was on a trip with my grandparents. I remember knowing we were on Cape Cod, and the weather was chilly and damp with a sort of misty rain. I remember watching through the windshield of the car as we pulled into the parking lot of one of those old 1950s motels, painted pink and white, two stories, with a balcony of the second floor. The motel was U-shaped, and there was a large swimming pool in the center of the U. I remember watching a young man with a sort of football player's build, wearing a black and red patterned Speedo-type bathing suit. In spite of the weather, he doved into the swimming pool. This is the last I remember of the dream.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on July 13, 2019, 02:02:05 pm
Oh, there's some interesting stuff going on there.

I think the young man who was diving into the pool represents the young eye candy you comment on in your blog, and how much you enjoy seeing them.

;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 05, 2019, 09:04:42 am
I also had a dream about a pool last night. I was a lifeguard, but the pool was over a ledge and way down from my station. I peered over the ledge and saw all the people around and in the pool, but there was no water! I saw it as being potentially more dangerous than if there was water in the pool. Also, there was no way I could quickly jump in the pool if someone needed help. Also, I saw that the people were literally roasting in the sun and had no protection. I knew that if I brought up these dangers to my employers, they would just say "Well, what cha going to do about it?" No eye candy, unfortunately, but I think I saw Richard Gere posing in a corner.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on August 05, 2019, 10:42:24 am
well, that's one heck of a dream
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 06, 2019, 11:00:45 am
Another heck of one last night. I dreamed I moved into my ex's parent's house, a ramshackle place nothing like their actual house. My flatmates were my first husband (!) who I haven't even heard from for years and a young woman who might have been my daughter or sister. We were all hanging out in a cluttered great room and, since it was 7 pm, I jumped up and volunteered to rustle up dinner. But after rummaging through 3 or 4 fridges that were on the property, I decided I would have to go to a grocery store. I was cheerful about the whole thing although my stomach was beginning to rumble with hunger. The other two people were rather lethargic and saying "whatever" a lot.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on August 06, 2019, 03:37:05 pm
3 to 4 fridges and you still couldn't make something for dinner?   Sounds really odd!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 06, 2019, 07:35:56 pm
That's what I thought too! In many of my dreams, I'm in a place that was vacated by others and I'm always going through their leftover stuff. I start feeling like an anthropologist, piecing together the lives and culture of long-gone people. It's a real phenomenon that people up and leave (or up and die) leaving a large stack of stuff. Somehow I seem to have been appointed to deal with a lot of this stuff. In my dream, I kept rummaging through all these fridges thinking, there has to be something here I can actually turn into meals. But, no. One refrigerator seemed to be set aside just for frozen pastries and novelties. I thought that was strange. I'm not an eater of such things, although I do keep ice cream for my grandchildren. But they visit so rarely that it gets stale and I just throw it in the sink.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on August 07, 2019, 11:31:14 am
I had a strange one last night, but I can barely remember it.   I had something to do with me being at someone's house.  I had no idea who these people were, but yet I knew them in the dream, and for some reason they were doing my laundry.

I can't remember the story, but I remember lunch was supposed to be sandwiches, but pizza showed up, and there was an Asian woman with a cat, bathing him,  and my friends Mike and Cor showed up having just returned from vacation.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 08, 2019, 12:33:21 pm
I had a strange one last night, but I can barely remember it.   I had something to do with me being at someone's house.  I had no idea who these people were, but yet I knew them in the dream, and for some reason they were doing my laundry.

I can't remember the story, but I remember lunch was supposed to be sandwiches, but pizza showed up, and there was an Asian woman with a cat, bathing him,  and my friends Mike and Cor showed up having just returned from vacation.

 :laugh: I hope they didn't put too much starch in your shirt collars.  ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 08, 2019, 11:03:07 pm
hahaha!

I know what my dreams are telling me. . . I have too many people in my life. It's unsustainable. But when I try to think about where I can pare down, I can't find any group that I'm willing to separate from. Certainly not, my BetterMost family! You guys sustain me and lift me up. You add sparkle to my life!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on August 09, 2019, 08:22:10 pm
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Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 10, 2019, 12:02:40 pm
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Did somebody open a tube of glitter again?  ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on August 11, 2019, 08:07:41 pm
You've been glitter bombed!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 17, 2019, 12:39:12 am
I don't agree with all the statements here, but this is interesting: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321070.php (https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321070.php)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 22, 2019, 12:28:03 pm
In these most nonsensical times, I'm suffering through the most nonsensical dreams. Last night, there was Freddy Mercury singing and his microphone was shaped like a toothbrush and he put it inside his mouth while he was singing to distort the sound.  :o
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 22, 2019, 06:37:02 pm
In these most nonsensical times, I'm suffering through the most nonsensical dreams. Last night, there was Freddy Mercury singing and his microphone was shaped like a toothbrush and he put it inside his mouth while he was singing to distort the sound.  :o

At least he was practicing good oral hygiene.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 23, 2019, 10:05:13 am
hehe. This morning I was awakened at 7:04 am by a voice saying "Mom." It was so clear that I sat up and replied, "What?" But there was no one there except my cat. I tried to figure out whose voice it was; it was neither my daughter's nor my son's. I finally decided it was my elder grandson's voice. Since I visited them yesterday, something must have lingered in my mind that he said.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 23, 2019, 12:30:20 pm
hehe. This morning I was awakened at 7:04 am by a voice saying "Mom." It was so clear that I sat up and replied, "What?" But there was no one there except my cat. I tried to figure out whose voice it was; it was neither my daughter's nor my son's. I finally decided it was my elder grandson's voice. Since I visited them yesterday, something must have lingered in my mind that he said.

I can't remember the specifics now, but I clearly remember having had that kind of experience, hearing a voice very clearly when there was no one there.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on August 23, 2019, 08:40:32 pm
I had a strange dream Thursday night.

I dreamed I was with my coworkers from my current job, but for some reason, we were all at my prior job in the supermarket.

???

We were working hard, and were promised a chicken dinner, but for some reason, Nicole didn't get one.  I went to find her one, and was quickly given one to give to her, but after I gave it to her, I was pulled aside and accused of stealing it.

::)  ???
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 26, 2019, 10:07:56 am
I don't know how to interpret your dream, Chuck, but what strikes me is the close collegial relationship you have with (most) of your coworkers. In your dream, it seems like you would go together to work in a different place even. And your concern for Nicolle speaks of your "all for one, one for all" camaraderie. That is very valuable.

I had yet another one of those dreams last night where I was in a new house that my family had moved into and the prior residents had left it bursting with stuff. I started to straighten things out, one room at a time. Drawers and closets were bursting full of the most fascinating stuff and I just couldn't figure out what to do with it all. Also, the house was built on a hill and, like those creepy TV shows that are popular now, there were mysterious people all around and it had a menacing air. I went down to the road searching for a cardboard box to put everything in. I couldn't find one and people--guards--looked at me strangely and encouraged me to go back to the house.

Another weird thing is that a set of rr tracks went through the middle of the house. There was a door leading to a narrow hallway and the tracks went through it. It was really tricky trying to get from one side of the house to the other.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 28, 2019, 12:10:35 pm
Last night my dream started veering in the direction of me being surrounded by stuff, and I mentally told myself "Stop that!" Fortunately, it worked!

And yesterday I packed up three large boxes of stuff my renter had left in my driveway and took them to Goodwill. It felt great to unload them, but there is still a lot of stuff left. She left a bin the size of a bathtub, packed full of stuff!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 29, 2019, 11:04:35 am
Again, just as I was waking up this morning, nonsense started happening in my brain. First I thought about how the fibers of today allow you to do yoga and be active without fear of your clothes getting all stretched out. Then I heard my mother chastising me for sitting in a chair with my leg tucked under me, saying "your knees will be all baggy". Then, cut to a scene of me sewing wool pants and turning the waistband, with several different scenarios including me accidentally poking a hole in the corner. Then, a scene of me cleaning a rich guy's house, wearing the wool pants and the knees becoming all baggy, then. . . . Finally, I was so disgusted with all this nonsense I decided it was time to get up!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 29, 2019, 11:06:48 am
At least he was practicing good oral hygiene.

And did you know that Mercury had extra teeth? Maybe that was why my silly brain conjured up a toothbrush. This is as bad as the spoon in the can of beans, shaped like a tire iron.  :(
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 01, 2019, 07:39:37 pm
Thursday night I had a real lulu, but I've had no time to post about it, so by now most of it has faded.

I was at a party where I didn't know anybody. It was in a house that was sort of a knock-off of the famous Frank Lloyd Wright house called Falling Water, except it wasn't. actually. I remember sliding doors leading out onto a deck that overlooked a yard, and being terrified to notice a mountain lion prowling around in the yard. The mountain lion climbed a tree very near the deck, but thin a noticed somebody holding it, and it still looked like a full-grown mountain lion, except it was no larger than a common house cat.

That's all that sticks with me now.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on September 02, 2019, 07:47:56 pm
Well that is very strange because yesterday I was on a tour of permaculture sites and we went to a large farm that had a farmhouse that looked a lot like Falling WAter with many horizontal planes. And earlier I. Was at a conference center where there was a large cat named Simba that looked exactly like a miniature mountain lion!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on September 21, 2019, 05:19:59 pm
In my dream last night, I was writing something on the computer, and as I looked it over, little streets formed between the lines and letters. There were cars on the streets but they looked like little Eiffel Towers and Arcs de Triumphe turned sideways and they were bright red, lime green, and superhero blue. For some reason the dream disturbed me so much that I woke up.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 22, 2019, 03:07:13 pm
Maybe you want to take a trip to Paris.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on September 24, 2019, 08:12:25 pm
Peut-être
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on September 26, 2019, 10:00:33 am
Last night I dreamed that my family moved into an old mansion that seemed to be in downtown Detroit or a similar city. We were very busy exploring it, and, once again, the previous owners had left a bunch of furnishings and stuff. Finally, I thought we needed to invite some people over. So I invited my friends the Gallaghers and then we thought the six of us would be uncomfortable without others there and so we invited some other people.

This mansion did not look like the other houses that appear in my dreams. It was a real mansion with a huge central hall that was 2-3 stories high with a balcony all around that led to many bedrooms on the upper floor. There were columns, a grand piano, and in the front corner a large kitchen with several rooms (resembling Mount Vernon's kitchen, I now realize). I was showing our guests around and looking for a closet for their coats, etc., when suddenly a bright red semi truck drove in through the back and a bunch of people with AKs wearing camouflage streamed out. All of our guests ran for a door, which went to a large basement area. I went there as well, and I could hear scuffling going on above. The guests had grown in number until there were about 20 or 30, and then there were a large number of children, mostly boys, that were in a different area. One of the armed men came down to the basement and was circling around and talking. I couldn't see what he was doing because there was a man in front of me. I suddenly realized he was shielding me. Two of the armed men went to each person and shined a light on them. If the light turned green, they took that person away. They took away the man who was shielding me. He said it would be all right.

All of the guests ended up outside, sitting in a circle on the grass. I thought we should feed them because they were still our guests. So, I went inside to get a delivery menu. Some of the armed people were sitting in the living room beside their truck. When they saw me with the menu, they asked me to order some chicken, some falafel, and some yogurt. I got a pencil and paper and started writing their request. I thought if I brought them food, I might be able to negotiate with them. I went back outside to get the rest of the order and then got in my car and drove one block to a street with lots of restaurants on it. That's when my cat woke me up.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on September 30, 2019, 03:01:18 pm
What an odd dream.

I thought it was funny that the armed people let you leave to get food, and that you went looking for food, instead of help.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 07, 2019, 11:34:21 am
Yes, especially since the place whose menu I had advertised in large red letters on the front that it delivered.  :-\
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on October 07, 2019, 05:24:45 pm
I had a dream over the weekend that I was being laid off from work.  Everyone seemed to be upset, but I wasn't for some reason.

I'm not surprised I had this dream, I was talking about getting laid off with a co-worker.  Nothing is happening at work, and I have no idea why the topic came up, but it did.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 08, 2019, 10:25:54 am
There is a lot of free-floating anxiety about the future right now. It intrudes on our dreams, or maybe our dreams are a way for us to process the anxiety.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on October 09, 2019, 03:27:22 pm
Very true, Lee!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 10, 2019, 03:08:39 pm
Coincidentally, I dreamed I was laid off last night. This was from an engineering firm I worked for several times, first as an employee (I quit) and then as a consultant twice. The guy who was my supervisor in the dream was Hugh Laurie in his House role. He sat down and started giving me the laying-off spiel and I interrupted to remind him that I was just a contractor so he didn't need to go through all that.

He was visibly relieved. I was gracious and understanding, since I realized that they might need me to come back sometime. Although, as always happens when I get laid off or divorced or something like that, a pounding ache had formed in my lower back. We stood up and I moved to shake his hand goodbye. He gestured that he wanted a hug and we crashed together very awkwardly. Laughing and pulling away I said "hug much?" to myself as much as to him.

Then he asked if he could get me a box for my things. I replied that I would take care of it. There was a wild goose chase with me looking for a box and encountering most of the people who worked there in the process. I kept telling myself to maintain my dignity and stiff upper lip.

My office was on the 5th floor and I had trouble finding an elevator or stairs. There was a rickety outdoor elevator so I decided to use the stairs. I encountered a crazy midfloor only inhabited by families and children with no stairs going up to the 5th floor. I finally found the stairs. As it got dark outside I still didn't have my stuff all packed up and people were gathering in my office for a party to see me off.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 30, 2019, 09:47:13 am
I woke up in the early hours and thought about two dreams I had just slept through. One was about my daughter and the other was about a humiliating professional incident. Both were troubling. So I went back to sleep and seem to have "undreamed" them. They're gone from my consciousness now, and perhaps I have shaken those cobwebs out of my brain.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on November 25, 2019, 03:13:56 pm
I dreamed I met Eddie Vedder, we worked on some kind of project together and fell in love for one day. Then he went back to his regular girlfriend. Note: it wasn't sexual, just sweet and then sad. I'd seen some old Pearl Jam videos the previous evening.

Often dreams like this have to do with something work-related -- I know, kind of weird -- and I've been able to understand the message they're sending. In this case I can't interpret what it might be because I don't remember the nature of the project Eddie and I were working on. Some kind of sale, maybe? Maybe because Pearl Jam was known for being devoted to ethics and art even at the risk of financial success it has something to do with selling out?

Fun fact about Eddie Vedder, though: His voice was reportedly the model for Bradley Cooper's character in A Star is Born. Here I thought it was Sam Elliott. Apparently Bradley Cooper spent a few days with Eddie Vedder to learn how to sing with that deeper voice. But Bradley's voice in ASIB, while deeper than his usual, is still not as deep as either Eddie's or Sam's.

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 30, 2019, 12:13:06 pm
Interesting dream! If someone were to aspire to singing with Sam Elliott's voice, that would be foolish IMHO. I've never heard Eddie Vetter sing or Pearl Jam; maybe I should look them up.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on November 30, 2019, 05:27:49 pm
Interesting dream! If someone were to aspire to singing with Sam Elliott's voice, that would be foolish IMHO.

Bradley Cooper did lower his regular voice considerably. Still didn't quite match Sam Elliott, but at least they sounded like they were from the same family.

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I've never heard Eddie Vetter sing or Pearl Jam; maybe I should look them up.

Here you go:



Actually, while I love that song it's the only Pearl Jam song I know very well. I was a bit more into Nirvana, with whom Pearl Jam was usually lumped as representing the Seattle grunge scene, back when Kurt Cobain was alive and all were at their peak.

When I analyzed the Eddie Vedder dream later, I realized it was definitely about art vs. commerce in my work. For a while I was writing more creative nonfiction -- essays, mostly -- which were artistically satisfying but completely unlucrative. I mean literally, you might sell an essay you'd spent weeks on for a few hundred dollars at the most and sometimes no pay at all. Now I'm mainly doing regular old newspaper journalism, which can often be creative, but not to the same degree, obviously. Newspaper reporting is not super-lucrative, but at least it provides a regular middle-class paycheck.

I thought of this interpretation because I once dreamed I was considering leaving my then-husband -- a journalist -- for a guy in a creative writing class I had taken. The guy was objectively good looking but I wasn't attracted to him when we were in the class. So I knew at once it must mean something else, and the journalism vs. creative writing contrast seemed pretty obvious.

Meanwhile, this song has been stuck in my head for about a week.





Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 08, 2019, 02:56:30 pm
Interesting insight. It reminds me of the episodes of The Crown that I am watching lately. Tobias Menzies plays Prince Phillip, who spends a lot of time looking back on all that he wanted to do but was prevented from doing by the demands of his job as consort. Then, there's a lot of script devoted to the young Prince Charles who was thwarted so much in his career and personal life. The show makes him into a much more sympathetic character, very Shakespearean and tragic in the requirement that he not do or be what he wanted but yet giving him no role outside of being perpetually in the wings. And it draws parallels between him and the previous Prince of Wales, who stepped down from the throne.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 08, 2020, 12:00:16 pm
I had a dream last night that I knew I would have to record here. My family was at our in-laws' house in California. The television was on. No surprise there, they always had the TV running, even early in the morning. Mercifully, the sound was muted. I came in from outdoors, it was a beautiful California day. Everyone was mesmerized by the TV. I thought they must be under some kind of spell. I tried to turn it off but the knob wouldn't turn. I finally managed to find the electrical plug and pull it out of the wall, but that didn't change anything either. It must have been some kind of Blutooth device.

I was looking at the TV, and I felt myself being sucked in. There was a woman talking, and she had a very large mouth. When she talked you could see her tongue, very soft, pink, and pillowy. And her teeth were all moist and glowing. I watched, entranced, until I woke up.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 08, 2020, 01:35:25 pm
Wow, that's an interesting one for analysis, FRiend.

As you all know, but as I was telling my ex-husband just yesterday (he'd had a weird dream where he was working at previous jobs), things that happen in dreams often don't represent those actual things in real life. Making your way through a many-roomed house might be exploring about your mind, etc. Or like my Pearl Jam and writing class examples earlier, they're more about creative writing vs. journalism, not really not so much the band or my writing class. I'm sure you've all talked about this, as I'm a relative newcomer to this thread, so this is probably elementary for you guys.

But with that in mind, what does the TV represent? What is the mouth? Even your in-laws -- could they represent something other than your actual in-laws?

Just a wild guess, but could this be something about the tension between wanting to separate yourself from current events and/or popular culture (the TV) vs. the difficulty of escaping it (being sucked in, the huge mouth)?

You're the best judge, of course. What do you think?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 11, 2020, 05:04:53 pm
...with that in mind, what does the TV represent?
Oh, I would guess, popular culture, electronics, social media, the world, Trump; one or all of those things.
What is the mouth?
Maybe the cacophony of the world, or maybe just the attention-grabbing, demanding, watch-me-ness of the world stage.

Even your in-laws -- could they represent something other than your actual in-laws?
Sure! They could represent judgmental people, conservatives, the silent majority, the status quo...that type of thing.

Just a wild guess, but could this be something about the tension between wanting to separate yourself from current events and/or popular culture (the TV) vs. the difficulty of escaping it (being sucked in, the huge mouth)?
Pretty good guess, I would say, friend! And then there's also the fact that I watched the new Dracula series that started on Netflix the other day. Just the first program of it. I'm not sure I want to watch any more of it.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 13, 2020, 01:52:44 pm
Sometimes dreams come in series, and then they start to take on the aspect of portents. Two that I had recently seem to go together. In the first, my daughter wanted to drive but was an inexperienced teenager so we made her and my son get in the back seat. Then, as my ex and I prepared to get in front, the car started rolling forward. We had to make a jump for it, and I got tangled in a heavy coat that I had thrown into the passenger seat ahead of me. My ex, miraculously, had sailed into the driver's seat and we were going down the shoulder of the road very fast and it was bumpy.

The second dream was just that I was trying to put on a T-shirt but I couldn't get my arms through the holes, so it was more like a strait-jacket.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 13, 2020, 08:19:49 pm
Sometimes dreams come in series, and then they start to take on the aspect of portents. Two that I had recently seem to go together. In the first, my daughter wanted to drive but was an inexperienced teenager so we made her and my son get in the back seat. Then, as my ex and I prepared to get in front, the car started rolling forward. We had to make a jump for it, and I got tangled in a heavy coat that I had thrown into the passenger seat ahead of me. My ex, miraculously, had sailed into the driver's seat and we were going down the shoulder of the road very fast and it was bumpy.

The second dream was just that I was trying to put on a T-shirt but I couldn't get my arms through the holes, so it was more like a strait-jacket.

I have the exact same T-shirt dream every night! Oh no, wait -- that's just what happens to me when I wake up in the middle of the night feeling hot and change from a waffle shirt into a T-shirt in the dark.

If you believe in dreams as portents (I don't, personally, but can understand why some people do and would never dispute it, just like I never dispute someone's religion or any other belief system) (unless it has to do with current politics, in which case ...  >:( >:( >:( ), have you ever read The White Hotel? It's all about dreams. And one of the characters is a fictionalized Freud, for that matter (whom we recently spoke of in the GtPPoT thread). It takes place in the early 1900s. You might find it gripping and interesting.

It was published in 1981 (per Wikipedia) was critically acclaimed and shortlisted for the Booker Prize.  It's well written and executed with a fascinating premise, unexpected turns in the story, well-constructed plot, some historical info. So it has all that going for it. Many, many people have liked it.

But I can't recommend it unreservedly. I enjoyed much of it very much, found it so engaging I could hardly stop reading it ... but ultimately I found it so disturbing I wound up sorry I'd read it. Similar to the way I was sorry I saw the movies Platoon, Leaving Las Vegas and Requiem for a Dream. If you don't like that feeling, beware.

It's not like I have to come out of a movie whistling a happy tune. (Duh, when you consider the ending of the movie that brought us all here!) But sad is one thing and disturbed is another.

Writing this, I googled it and found a list of the 100 most disturbing books ever. I went to the list and The White Hotel wasn't on it -- someone in the comments, disputing ones on the list, said it should include The White Hotel. I skimmed the list of 100 and I had read and enjoyed many of them and loved some of them (A Clockwork Orange, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Handmaid's Tale, Room, Gone Girl, The Stand, Carrie, Wuthering Heights (!)). So I don't think I'm that easily disturbed. Though I know better than to read American Psycho, The Road or Lord of the Flies.



Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 14, 2020, 09:48:49 am
Definitely skip Lord of the Flies. I had to read that in junior high school. I won't say it disturbed me. I just didn't like it.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 14, 2020, 10:34:13 am
Definitely skip Lord of the Flies. I had to read that in junior high school. I won't say it disturbed me. I just didn't like it.

Yeah, I feel like I know enough about the plot that I don't have to do the actual reading.

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 14, 2020, 12:42:21 pm
Yeah, I feel like I know enough about the plot that I don't have to do the actual reading.

I know the title is a sort-of Biblical reference, as "Lord of the Flies" is a title for Beelzebub, but I can remember not getting how the title related to the plot.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 14, 2020, 05:14:33 pm
Caution, disturbing image ahead



Didn't they put the dead pig's head on a stake, where it attracted flies, and they called it Lord of the Flies and tried to get other boys to worship it?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 14, 2020, 07:12:40 pm
Caution, disturbing image ahead



Didn't they put the dead pig's head on a stake, where it attracted flies, and they called it Lord of the Flies and tried to get other boys to worship it?

I couldn't say. It's now almost 50 years since I read it.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 14, 2020, 11:06:35 pm
Didn't they put the dead pig's head on a stake, where it attracted flies, and they called it Lord of the Flies and tried to get other boys to worship it?

Exactly. I know that much. I think some boys get stranded on a desert island or something and the book is about how quickly human civilization can break down into brutality and savagery or something like that.

If "Lord of the Flies" is another name for Beelzebub, it's clever word play! Because the pig/flies part is definitely part of the plot.

Speaking of heads on stakes, did anyone read the New Yorker piece that ran sometime around Thanksgiving debunking all the myths of the mostly fictional first Thanksgiving? That piece talked about this peacekeeping chief who showed up at the first "Thanksgiving." The gathering was apparently not nearly as warm and merry as the story that was concocted centuries later and that kids now learn in school. But apparently Indians and settlers mingled peaceably, and the Indians reportedly showed at least an apparent interest in getting along. Needless to say, that didn't work out. The son of that chief, the one who attended the first Thanksgiving, his head stood on a spike outside a British fortress for many years.







Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 15, 2020, 09:57:50 am
Exactly. I know that much. I think some boys get stranded on a desert island or something and the book is about how quickly human civilization can break down into brutality and savagery or something like that.

That's what I remember of it. Plus, one of the boys is nicknamed "Piggy."


Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 15, 2020, 09:44:16 pm
I guess the nature of the social breakdown in the book reminds me of the Stanford Prison Experiment. Are you all familiar with it, and if so did you know it's been pretty thoroughly debunked?


Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 15, 2020, 10:47:33 pm
I guess the nature of the social breakdown in the book reminds me of the Stanford Prison Experiment. Are you all familiar with it, and if so did you know it's been pretty thoroughly debunked?

The name sounds vaguely familiar. I think I read about it somewhere, once, but I don't remember anything about it.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 16, 2020, 12:03:53 am
The name sounds vaguely familiar. I think I read about it somewhere, once, but I don't remember anything about it.

If you're not familiar with it, you probably won't be interested in the details, but here goes. When I was in college, I took every psychology and sociology class I could get my hands on. So you'd learn about the Stanford Prison Experiment in Psych 101 and probably other courses as well. In 1971 a Stanford professor divided male students into "guards" and "inmates" and put them in a building together instructed to perform those roles. The guards got slightly brutal (nothing huge or tragic) and the inmates wanted to get the hell out of there, understandably. But now there's evidence the professor had at least subtly coached them -- perhaps not even deliberately but somehow let them understand what he hoped to see happen in the experiment. So they knew what was expected of them. Other conditions also weren't sufficiently empirical (e.g., no control group) and one "guard" even said he was deliberately imitating something he'd seen in the Paul Newman prison movie "Hud."

But for years it was used as evidence that people who follow authorities' orders to exert power over others (the guards) can turn violent and evil. Well, yeah, just like if a theater director tells you, the actor playing the guard, to act bad and evil, you will act bad and evil.  Even if the director doesn't say it that explicitly, but it's still obvious that's the role he wants you to play.

The experiment, as well as, I think, the Stanley Milgram shock experiment, too (which may not have been empirically flawed; can't remember) were designed to try to explain Nazi and how people commit otherwise uncharacteristic brutality if so ordered. Well, Nazis kind of explain that phenomenon better than this experiment did. It's one thing acting nasty to please your professor and another being OK with herding people into ... well, you know. So why not say, Nazis showed it can happen ... because, well, it happened?





Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 16, 2020, 01:19:08 pm
Thanks. I've definitely heard of the Milgram experiment.

The Paul Newman prison movie is Cool Hand Luke.  Hud is a different film (based on a Larry McMurtry novel, incidentally).
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 16, 2020, 10:40:56 pm
Thanks. I've definitely heard of the Milgram experiment.

The Paul Newman prison movie is Cool Hand Luke.  Hud is a different film (based on a Larry McMurtry novel, incidentally).


Oh, thank you! I just now glanced through google images of Paul Newman's biggest movies. It would be fun to stream a little Paul Newman festival sometime. Not everything, of course, but the famous ones. I've seen Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid within the past 20 years, but that's about it -- I haven't seen the others in forever. In many cases, not since they came out. And some not at all, including Hud and Cool Hand Luke. Though in the latter case, I did read the Mad Magazine satire, if that counts.  :laugh:



 
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 25, 2020, 11:34:36 am
It would be fun to stream a little Paul Newman festival sometime. Not everything, of course, but the famous ones.

What did he do that wasn't famous, memorable, and good??
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 25, 2020, 02:10:47 pm
What did he do that wasn't famous, memorable, and good??

Is that a question-question or a rhetorical question? Most of his movies were at least two of those three if not all three. He was in some of the most classic, acclaimed films of all time.

But I would probably skip rewatching "The Towering Inferno." And "The Hudsucker Proxy" was the first movie I ever feel asleep watching; the worst Coen Bros. movie ever, IMO. Though as I recall Paul Newman's role in that was small and ended before I dozed off. There are some on his list that I would say are fairly obscure.

But I agree, most of his movies were good and some I haven't seen since they came out and would love to rewatch.

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 25, 2020, 08:57:22 pm
Oh, thank you! I just now glanced through google images of Paul Newman's biggest movies. It would be fun to stream a little Paul Newman festival sometime. Not everything, of course, but the famous ones. I've seen Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid within the past 20 years, but that's about it -- I haven't seen the others in forever. In many cases, not since they came out. And some not at all, including Hud and Cool Hand Luke. Though in the latter case, I did read the Mad Magazine satire, if that counts.  :laugh:

Best "buddy picture" ever. I think I wore out a videotape of it. Now I have it on DVD. The movie where I fell in love with Robert Redford. ...
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 25, 2020, 09:39:56 pm
Best "buddy picture" ever. I think I wore out a videotape of it. Now I have it on DVD. The movie where I fell in love with Robert Redford. ...

Oh, same. Totally. And agreed about buddy pictures.

The only sad thing about BCatSK is that Paul Newman was relatively unsexy in that role -- good as he was! In all of his other movies, he was the hottest cast member. But in BCatSK, that was played down. He did not get a fake-rape scene with Katharine Ross (hard to know how to feel about that scene, BTW, in the #metoo era, but at least it was fake). (FYI, in real life, as you probably know, Katharine Ross is married to Sam Elliott.)

I used to think of Brad Pitt as the Robert Redford of his day. Obviously I"m not the only one who's noticed that resemblance, including Brad Pitt and Robert Redford. Seriously, I think when Robert Redford directed "A River Runs Through It," he thought something like, here's the young me.

But now I'm so much more used to Brad Pitt that I think of Robert Redford as the Brad Pitt of his day. Just think -- in BCatSK, Bob was 20+ years younger than Brad is now.



 
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 26, 2020, 11:08:37 am
...the movie where I fell in love with Robert Redford. ...

And I fell for Katharine Ross! The two male actors were so good they convinced me they should be together, leaving Katharine for me! Sadly, Sam came along and the rest is history. I've had several brushes with the movie and with the history. Once EdelMar and I went up to Central City in the mountains and saw it at the old Opera House. What a great day that was. We also have visited the badlands of Utah and Wyoming where they hung out and even have seen the Hole in the Wall!

That was a rhetorical question, friend, but thank you for answering it anyway. I guess I was not familiar with the lesser works in Newman's oeuvre. I haven't seen Inferno or Hudsucker Proxy, and I didn't know the latter was one of the Coen Brothers'. We should talk about said brothers more, they and their works are interesting. But not on the dream interpretation page; that might lead to bad dreams!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 26, 2020, 04:16:28 pm
that might lead to bad dreams!

 :laugh:

I wonder how many Brokies saw and loved Butch Cassidy. I also loved Alias Smith & Jones, the TV show inspired by that movie. Buddy films are not the same as a love story, of course, but they have that undercurrent, as well as similar settings and sorts of characters. And I was much more into Westerns than buddy films about urban police officers or whatever.

OK, back to dreams! I hardly ever remember mine, so unfortunately I can't contribute at this time.


Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 26, 2020, 09:17:25 pm
Oh, same. Totally. And agreed about buddy pictures.

The only sad thing about BCatSK is that Paul Newman was relatively unsexy in that role -- good as he was! In all of his other movies, he was the hottest cast member. But in BCatSK, that was played down. He did not get a fake-rape scene with Katharine Ross (hard to know how to feel about that scene, BTW, in the #metoo era, but at least it was fake). (FYI, in real life, as you probably know, Katharine Ross is married to Sam Elliott.)

Sorry, just a bit confused here. When you mention that Newman did not get a fake-rape scene with Katharine Ross, are you using that to describe the scene between Redford and Ross where he gestures with his gun to get her to undress, and ultimately she snaps at him for being late? (Not to argue the "fake-rape" point; I just want to be clear on what you're saying. It certainly sets up to look like he's going to rape her.)

Incidentally, I fell in love with Katharine Ross, too. I've always felt she was just about the prettiest woman I've ever seen in a movie. And I do mean pretty. I would never have called her glamorous or gorgeous, just pretty, and I mean that in the best possible girl-next-door kind of way (sorry for the cliche).

I don't know who got luckier, Sam Elliott, or Katharine Ross.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 26, 2020, 09:21:24 pm
I also loved Alias Smith & Jones, the TV show inspired by that movie.

I remember that but only ever saw a few episodes, to the best of my recollection. It was probably on against something else that we watched in my family. Of course that was way before anybody even dreamed of any kind of home recording of TV shows or movies.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 27, 2020, 12:04:47 pm

I don't know who got luckier, Sam Elliott, or Katharine Ross.

I never really liked her for some reason. Not in Butch Cassidy, not in The Graduate. I can't justify it, just one of those things. So her marriage to Sam Elliott increases her credibility with me.

Yes, that's the scene I meant. And good point, it's not quite a fake rape. Fake anticipation of an imminent rape.

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 28, 2020, 12:41:37 pm
I had a doozy last night, but I can remember only a small part of it. I was getting married! To a woman! My attendants were to be my best friend from high school, and another friend from high school whom I have not seen since probably within a year or two of our graduation; in the dream they both looked just as they did when we were in high school. Wedding guests were coming to the house I grew up in. I remember I was wearing a bathrobe and needed to get dressed for the ceremony, but that's about all I can remember.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 29, 2020, 09:14:59 am
I was getting married! To a woman!

 :o   :laugh:


Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 29, 2020, 10:28:10 am
Last night I dreamed of death--at least, I'm pretty sure that's what it was about--and I'm rattled that it might be a portent of my own death, and I had this dream because it might be coming soon.

I was with a group of people--I don't know how many--and we were all being blindfolded in a way that you might call mummy-fashion, with strips of cloth being wound around our heads (I don't know who was doing the winding). Mine was loose enough that I could peek between the strips of cloth. I could see someone who had his back toward me, but even though I couldn't see his face, I knew it was my boyfriend, who died 20 years ago this last September.

Mummies certainly have to do with death.

I ain't jokin'.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 29, 2020, 11:13:23 am
I'd like to discuss your marriage dream first. The way I interpret it is that you feel ready to take on something new in the New Year. Your "bride" may be a new calling or project. You can prepare for it by performing a ritual. Do you have a place in your home where you can sit and think for a while? Everyone should have a place like that, a personal home altar. Take some time to prepare yourself by having a nice bath or shower, putting on some comfortable clothing and maybe something special like a prayer shawl or scarf. Maybe something that belonged to an ancestor. Spend some unstructured time with your thoughts and visualize yourself from outside yourself, if you can. Try to go deeper into your dream. Look around and note the things and people around you. Try to uncover hints about the nature of the "bride" and go in the direction that your dream is taking you. Use your imagination and open your mind to new ideas and ways of looking at things. Take some small risks . . . it won't hurt anything because you are at home and safe. See if you have any super powers that will help you.

Be patient. Practice this on a weekly basis and you will be amazed at the progress you can make. (I'm actually speaking to everyone who reads this, not just Jeff.)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 29, 2020, 12:35:53 pm
A few notes about your most recent dream, if you don't mind. Thinking about and writing about death is a time-honored tradition that extends from Woody Allen all the way back to the ancient Celts and Tibetans. It is an important milestone in one's life and there is nothing wrong with thinking or dreaming about it.

Balance is also important. If you find that you are thinking about death more often than you would like, perhaps so much that you are not enjoying other aspects of your life, it may be time to apply some intentionality. Think about whether there is something unresolved about your repeated returns to the topic, or whether you feel unprepared. Try to go deeper into the dreams and thoughts, rather than trying to escape from them or cover them over.

Many people, myself included, cling to previous stages of their lives too long and resist embracing new chapters. I get around this by thinking of myself as being in the teenaged years of the last third of my life. I get to be a mature woman, with all the advantages that come with it, and have another go at doing things for the first time. In thinking about my eventual death, I like to go out and turn my compost pile, where all the fruits and vegetables I have enjoyed are decaying and readying themselves to be fertilizer for the plants that are to grow in the future. I'll write more about this on my own blog, and turn back to reading about how you are looking at the stages of your life in your dreams and "woke" as they like to say.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 30, 2020, 12:29:27 am
My own bias upfront: I don't believe in dreams as portent. I know there are lots of anecdotes and if it ever happens to me I might change my mind, but for now I'm a bit too empirical to embrace that possibility.

Otherwise, I'm totally with Lee. Her ideas were kind of like what I was saying in your blog. It seriously is never too late to change your attitude or your life.

I recently heard a song with lyrics about how fragile we are that "we live our lives with death over our shoulders." We do! But that doesn't mean we have to plan our activities as if death is going to come down at any moment.



Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 30, 2020, 10:32:00 am
A few notes about your most recent dream, if you don't mind.

FRiend, I never mind reading your thoughts. I might disagree with them generally or particularly, but I never mind reading them.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 30, 2020, 10:36:50 am
It seriously is never too late to change your attitude or your life.

But don't you agree that first you have to believe that's possible?

Quote
I recently heard a song with lyrics about how fragile we are that "we live our lives with death over our shoulders." We do! But that doesn't mean we have to plan our activities as if death is going to come down at any moment.

"In the midst of life we are in death."
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 30, 2020, 02:26:08 pm
But don't you agree that first you have to believe that's possible?

"In the midst of life we are in death."

Yes, you do have to believe it's possible. But there are some things you can talk or will or reason yourself into believing if you're motivated to do so.

In J-school I took a magazine class in which we decided the topic of our class' magazine would be DEATH. It was interesting to consider just how much death influences our quality of life. If death didn't exist, would we get really bored and unmotivated to do anything?

Of course, unless you've had a loved one die (which I hadn't at the time), the entire subject is pretty hypothetical when you're 20.


Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 30, 2020, 03:46:21 pm
It was interesting to consider just how much death influences our quality of life. If death didn't exist, would we get really bored and unmotivated to do anything?


There's an old movie about this called Zardoz. Starring Sean Connery. Anyone remember it? It was pretty hokey but had some interesting concepts. A barbarian comes to a utopian place where there is no death. The people are all wishing they could die, but they can not. But the barbarian brings death, chaos, and other messy stuff back into their lives.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: southendmd on January 30, 2020, 03:53:57 pm
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Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 30, 2020, 05:38:39 pm
I must avert my eyes!! haha, yes that's the barbarian, all right!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on January 30, 2020, 07:18:23 pm
Last night I dreamed of death--at least, I'm pretty sure that's what it was about--and I'm rattled that it might be a portent of my own death, and I had this dream because it might be coming soon.

I was with a group of people--I don't know how many--and we were all being blindfolded in a way that you might call mummy-fashion, with strips of cloth being wound around our heads (I don't know who was doing the winding). Mine was loose enough that I could peek between the strips of cloth. I could see someone who had his back toward me, but even though I couldn't see his face, I knew it was my boyfriend, who died 20 years ago this last September.

Mummies certainly have to do with death.

I ain't jokin'.

What if the dream was about death, but not a literal one, and instead a metaphorical one.

You talked about wasting your life in your blog.  What if the mummy wasn't you, but rather your 'wasted life', being put away, and what you 'knew' to be your boyfriend, was instead your subconscious telling you to put away your wasted life, and move forward with the new one that you can bring about?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 30, 2020, 09:08:07 pm
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He must have really needed the money. ...
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 31, 2020, 10:17:19 am
To help erase that Sean Connery photo from our heads, here's a more pleasant image from a show involving immortality -- The Highlander TV series starring Adrian Paul. It's interesting that most onscreen immortals seem to stop aging at the moment in their lives when they're at their hottest.



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Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 31, 2020, 10:38:14 am
What if the dream was about death, but not a literal one, and instead a metaphorical one.

You talked about wasting your life in your blog.  What if the mummy wasn't you, but rather your 'wasted life', being put away, and what you 'knew' to be your boyfriend, was instead your subconscious telling you to put away your wasted life, and move forward with the new one that you can bring about?

Brilliant, Chuck! It's up to Jeff to see if it feels like a good fit, of course, but this sounds really plausible to me.

As Chuck noted, Jeff has talked about dwelling a lot on his wasted life and proximity to death. And in the dream, Jeff isn't quite dead, because he can see through the strips of cloth/death as if viewing what remains of his life. His boyfriend's death is connected to Jeff's worries about his wasted life. He would have been an opportunity for a different kind of life, but he's no longer an option, which is why his back is turned.

Being not quite as much of a natural optimist as Chuck, I don't necessarily view it as Jeff's subconscious telling him to put his wasted life behind and move forward. I do see it as a reflection of how Jeff feels, though. He can see through the bandages because he can still glimpse the remainder of his life. And maybe the reason he can't see who's winding the cloth because the person winding the cloth is Jeff himself, cutting himself off from possibilities of a different life.

I don't know who the other people in the group would be, though. Are they just random strangers who also happen to be "dying"? Or are they connected to Jeff and the other elements in some way?

Sorry to dwell on death and be depressing, Jeff. But I do think Chuck's metaphor analysis seems to fit. If the dream were Brokeback Mountain and Jeff was Ennis and the boyfriend was Jack, we'd certainly be discussing that possibility.



Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 31, 2020, 12:39:16 pm
Brilliant, Chuck! It's up to Jeff to see if it feels like a good fit, of course, but this sounds really plausible to me.

As Chuck noted, Jeff has talked about dwelling a lot on his wasted life and proximity to death. And in the dream, Jeff isn't quite dead, because he can see through the strips of cloth/death as if viewing what remains of his life. His boyfriend's death is connected to Jeff's worries about his wasted life. He would have been an opportunity for a different kind of life, but he's no longer an option, which is why his back is turned.

Being not quite as much of a natural optimist as Chuck, I don't necessarily view it as Jeff's subconscious telling him to put his wasted life behind and move forward. I do see it as a reflection of how Jeff feels, though. He can see through the bandages because he can still glimpse the remainder of his life. And maybe the reason he can't see who's winding the cloth because the person winding the cloth is Jeff himself, cutting himself off from possibilities of a different life.

I don't know who the other people in the group would be, though. Are they just random strangers who also happen to be "dying"? Or are they connected to Jeff and the other elements in some way?

Sorry to dwell on death and be depressing, Jeff. But I do think Chuck's metaphor analysis seems to fit. If the dream were Brokeback Mountain and Jeff was Ennis and the boyfriend was Jack, we'd certainly be discussing that possibility.

Nah, you might be depressing others, but not me.

Chuck's is a very interesting interpretation, but I feel it doesn't fit the reality of my life; therefore, it's not a good fit.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 31, 2020, 01:15:17 pm
What about this, then. By swaddling the heads in cloth, you and your companions are being prepared for a journey or something new, but you are blindfolded as though it were a kidnapping. However, you can see a little and are not as hampered as some of the others. You are looking forward to setting out on this journey and following your beloved. Indecision and ennui are kidnapping your life, and you seek an escape.

But, not so fast! You are bound to this existence by your commitment to your Mom to look after your father. These bounds may feel restrictive, and only allow you a glimpse of what awaits you someday. You may have very mixed feelings, longing for the feeling of freedom to live your life and to travel, etc. You must fortify yourself both mentally and physically. Use your dreams and creative visualization to find uses for your time that are regenerative. Using self-soothing techniques waste your energy and life force. Everything within you, waking and sleeping, is telling you that. Circle back and find a better way; that's what I think your dreams are telling you.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 31, 2020, 05:22:49 pm
Using self-soothing techniques waste your energy and life force.

I don't know what this means.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 31, 2020, 07:43:48 pm
I just recently learned the difference between self-soothing and self-care myself. This blog post explains it very well: https://stacyrocklein.com/self-care-vs-self-soothing/  (https://stacyrocklein.com/self-care-vs-self-soothing/). When you practice self-care, you feel better afterwards. When you practice self-soothing, you feel the same or worse afterwards.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 31, 2020, 09:56:54 pm
I just recently learned the difference between self-soothing and self-care myself. This blog post explains it very well: https://stacyrocklein.com/self-care-vs-self-soothing/  (https://stacyrocklein.com/self-care-vs-self-soothing/). When you practice self-care, you feel better afterwards. When you practice self-soothing, you feel the same or worse afterwards.

I haven't read it yet but I'm looking forward to it! I've definitely been doing self something-or-other (and no, I'm not referring to *that* self thing) and generally feel only slightly better. It usually involves me whispering to myself would-be conversations that would address the problem. But anyway, I think of self-care as, like, taking a bath or sauna or putting on lotion or getting a massage. None of those particularly interest me. I was even doing yoga once a week for at least a couple of years. But I may be using self-soothing incorrectly because whatever it is I'm doing I need an alternative. I might do the online therapy stuff I get through work -- three sessions for free.

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 31, 2020, 10:14:27 pm
The other thing is, when we discuss "changing your life" as if that would almost definitely mean or at least include travel, we're kind of limiting it. Travel is great -- attitude changing and enriching and enjoyable and all of those things. But most of us can only do it a few weeks a year at most. Plus, Jeff has done a fair amount of it, even if he can't for now. I'm lucky to get a trip or two a year, and in recent years I've been lucky enough to get most of them paid for by professional organizations. Recently, Brokies on either coast have invited me to visit, but I don't think I can anytime soon.

But anyway! I think long-term significant life changing would most often entail getting extremely involved in another time-consuming social or educational thing. Like Lee's permaculture, for example. Obviously that particular thing probably wouldn't work for you, Jeff, but I mean something like that -- where you're really invested, engaged, interested, meeting new people, have a steady schedule of activities, etc. I'm not sure what it would be for you, but I feel like it should be something you're fairly deeply engaged in.

A coworker wanted to learn French because her daughter was living in Paris. So she started taking classes and she organized a French club at work. I was in it, but some of the members had lived in France whereas my French is rusty high-school level. I felt like I needed subtitles. So that probably wouldn't be the best thing for me -- although I will say going to the sessions was like taking my brain to the gym and it was interesting to see my coworker get increasingly fluent as weeks went on). She made friends in the French learning/speaking community. has since retired, but I bet she's still doing French stuff. And last time I saw her, a year or two after she retired, she looked great: happy, healthy, vibrant.

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on February 01, 2020, 05:08:53 pm
Brilliant, Chuck! It's up to Jeff to see if it feels like a good fit, of course, but this sounds really plausible to me.

Thank you!

Nah, you might be depressing others, but not me.

Chuck's is a very interesting interpretation, but I feel it doesn't fit the reality of my life; therefore, it's not a good fit.


and here comes Jeff, to piss all over my moment of brilliance!   ;)   :laugh:

to be honest, I have no idea where that interpretation came from, it just popped into my head.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 01, 2020, 08:27:54 pm
We can discuss these ideas more on the "how to beat stress" topic, but, for now, let's circle back to dream interpretation. I think that if you pay close attention to your dreams, they can provide clues to how you can improve your waking life. After all, everyone from Disney to Steven Spielberg talks about "making your dreams come true." Those who are blessed with a rich dream life can mine its treasures for self-knowledge, awareness, and self actualization.

And if you don't have a rich dream life, you can take steps to attain one. Begin by keeping a notepad and pen by your bed, a convenient night light, etc. Also, place something by your bedside to remind yourself to review your dream as soon as you wake up. All but the most vivid dreams fade within a few minutes. You might want to plan to spend five minutes in bed after you wake up just reflecting, so set your sleep app accordingly.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on February 02, 2020, 12:17:08 pm
Agreed. Although I don't believe in dreams as premonitions or portent, I do believe they can signal how your subconscious feels about something. And letting those subconscious thoughts at least partially shape your conscious choices and actions could lead to improvements in your life.



Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 07, 2020, 09:57:48 am
For more than 30 years, I've kept my credit cards, ATM card, driver's license, and so forth in a separate wallet from my cash. My hope/plan has always been that if I were ever robbed, I could hand over the cash from my other wallet but manage to keep safe all those cards that it's so difficult to replace. Last night I dreamed I lost that wallet. Then I found the wallet, but the cards were all missing from the plastic insert with the sleeves that hold the cards.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on February 07, 2020, 11:12:54 am
For more than 30 years, I've kept my credit cards, ATM card, driver's license, and so forth in a separate wallet from my cash. My hope/plan has always been that if I were ever robbed, I could hand over the cash from my other wallet but manage to keep safe all those cards that it's so difficult to replace. Last night I dreamed I lost that wallet. Then I found the wallet, but the cards were all missing from the plastic insert with the sleeves that hold the cards.

This also hints at the possibility of life change, or so it seems to me. What do you think?


Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 07, 2020, 12:52:32 pm
This also hints at the possibility of life change, or so it seems to me. What do you think?

Well, I can think of one particularly huge life change that will probably come sooner rather than later (depending on how you define "sooner" or "later"), and you know what it is. I'm not regarding this as a portent, or anything, because I know the change will come.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on February 09, 2020, 05:25:11 pm
For more than 30 years, I've kept my credit cards, ATM card, driver's license, and so forth in a separate wallet from my cash. My hope/plan has always been that if I were ever robbed, I could hand over the cash from my other wallet but manage to keep safe all those cards that it's so difficult to replace. Last night I dreamed I lost that wallet. Then I found the wallet, but the cards were all missing from the plastic insert with the sleeves that hold the cards.

Oh, I would wake from that dream feeling so frustrated.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 13, 2020, 11:49:30 am
Last night I dreamed I lost that wallet. Then I found the wallet, but the cards were all missing from the plastic insert with the sleeves that hold the cards.[/font][/size]
Today I woke up with a different interpretation of your dream. Imagine that your two wallets represent two different identities for you. The cash wallet represents the conventional identity that you present to the world. It is public and expendable. The other wallet represents your true, valued, and hidden identity. You fear that your authentic identity will be stolen or lost.

For more than 30 years, I've kept my credit cards, ATM card, driver's license, and so forth in a separate wallet from my cash. My hope/plan has always been that if I were ever robbed, I could hand over the cash from my other wallet but manage to keep safe all those cards that it's so difficult to replace.
Have you ever been robbed in those 30 years and, if so, did your plan work? Also, I was wondering if you ever had to juggle the two wallets when completing a transaction?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 13, 2020, 01:12:56 pm
Have you ever been robbed in those 30 years and, if so, did your plan work? Also, I was wondering if you ever had to juggle the two wallets when completing a transaction?

I have not, but living as I do in the very center of a major metropolitan area, it still remains a possibility.

Maybe it depends on how you're defining transaction. In making a purchase, no, I haven't had to juggle wallets because if I'm paying cash, I don't need to access the credit card wallet, and if I'm paying with a credit card, then I don't need the cash wallet.

On the other hand, if I'm withdrawing cash from an ATM, then I do need to access both wallets, the card wallet for the ATM card and the cash wallet to put the cash in. Incidentally, I don't use an "outdoor" ATM, only an "indoor" machine inside my own bank.

Edit to Add: On local TV news this evening, I learned that last evening, someone was attacked four blocks from my home, and a second person was attacked a mere three blocks from my home.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on February 14, 2020, 09:26:30 am
I have not, but living as I do in the very center of a major metropolitan area, it still remains a possibility.

...Edit to Add: On local TV news this evening, I learned that last evening, someone was attacked four blocks from my home, and a second person was attacked a mere three blocks from my home.


What were the nature of the attacks?

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 14, 2020, 09:44:37 am
What were the nature of the attacks?

In one of them, a woman carrying a box of flowers was hit with a brick by a couple of teenage boys. They were trying to steal her purse, but I don't remember if they succeeded. I don't remember the nature of the other attack other than that it was an attempted robbery.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on February 15, 2020, 10:11:03 am
I have not, but living as I do in the very center of a major metropolitan area, it still remains a possibility.

They vary, though. I lived in New Orleans, as I've often said, when it was the murder capital of the country -- 450 murders one year in a city of 500,000. And they happened anywhere in the city, including wealthy residential neighborhoods. We lived in a fourplex on a major streetcar line / thoroughfare, and a guy got shot on the front steps of the sandwich shop across the street. When we first arrived, I briefly (one week) took a job waiting tables at a restaurant down the street, and a couple of times I got off at like midnight, give or take. I would sprint the whole four blocks home.

Then we moved to NYC for a year. In a city 15 times the size of NOLA, of course, there were many more murders, so at first it seemed dangerous. And, to be fair, we did live near a park on the Upper West Side that people were warned to avoid, it was just four years after the Central Park jogger attack, and walking through any cute little neighborhood playground you would hear crack vials crunching underfoot.

But eventually I realized I was much safer in Manhattan than I would be in NOLA. Most violence in New York seems concentrated in certain parts of the city, and the area around Columbia University isn't really one of them.

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on February 15, 2020, 05:53:03 pm
Edit to Add: On local TV news this evening, I learned that last evening, someone was attacked four blocks from my home, and a second person was attacked a mere three blocks from my home.

Ugh.  I hope that whoever was responsible for the attacks was caught.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 13, 2020, 10:43:16 am
I had quite an interesting dream last night. I was in the house where I was raised, in my childhood bedroom, though I was not a child. I could see a small trunk--a footlocker type thing--against the wall across from the foot of the bed. On top of the trunk there was a wicker basket holding magazines--train-related magazines, I think. I looked away from the basket, and when I looked back at it, the magazines had disappeared. Then the footlocker started to follow me ( :laugh: ), moving of its own accord. I called twice for my mother--and I think I woke myself up by actually verbalizing, though the sound was more of a whine with my lips tightly compressed, rather than actual words. I also remember that I was saying "Mom," which is kind of strange because I never called her that--or not often, anyway. Typically I addressed her as "Mother."
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 13, 2020, 12:22:09 pm
Yes, very interesting dream. How do you interpret it?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 13, 2020, 04:44:40 pm
This one's fairly obvious, I think. The home I grew up in, and my mother, together represent security--a scarce commodity in these unsettled times. The moving footlocker represents travel, and my anxiety over when and how I will be able to get out to visit my father.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 13, 2020, 05:30:42 pm
I agree with the first part of it about your mother. For the second part, you may be right. I came to a different conclusion, but I may be off base. I thought the train magazines and whatever is in the footlocker represent things you wanted to do but put aside. Maybe hobbies, dreams, etc. Now those neglected interests are pursuing you and saying "Hey, pay attention to me!"
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on April 13, 2020, 08:34:59 pm
I had a good one recently.


I had a dream that there was a Brokie gathering, and the two of the Euro-Brokies were there (Jari & Ted).  They had told me that they both went on major trip to numerous countries.  I commented that it sounded wonderful, and that some of the places were places I would want to see.

They both then showed me a lot of pics of themselves, each wearing the same pair of sunglasses.  They then told me the sunglasses were mine, and that they took them on the trip and put them on whenever hey saw something that they thought I would like and had a picture taken there, wearing my glasses.

I don't know what the dream means, but I did wake up smiling. 
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 13, 2020, 09:27:35 pm
I agree with the first part of it about your mother. For the second part, you may be right. I came to a different conclusion, but I may be off base. I thought the train magazines and whatever is in the footlocker represent things you wanted to do but put aside. Maybe hobbies, dreams, etc. Now those neglected interests are pursuing you and saying "Hey, pay attention to me!"

It's possible the train magazines might have something to do with my procrastination over going through my model train collection and making hard choices over what to keep and what to (I hope) sell, but then why did they disappear?  ???
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 13, 2020, 09:28:49 pm
I had a good one recently.


I had a dream that there was a Brokie gathering, and the two of the Euro-Brokies were there (Jari & Ted).  They had told me that they both went on major trip to numerous countries.  I commented that it sounded wonderful, and that some of the places were places I would want to see.

They both then showed me a lot of pics of themselves, each wearing the same pair of sunglasses.  They then told me the sunglasses were mine, and that they took them on the trip and put them on whenever hey saw something that they thought I would like and had a picture taken there, wearing my glasses.

I don't know what the dream means, but I did wake up smiling.

So instead of a traveling garden gnome you had traveling sunglasses.  ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 15, 2020, 12:39:20 pm
It's possible the train magazines might have something to do with my procrastination over going through my model train collection and making hard choices over what to keep and what to (I hope) sell, but then why did they disappear?  ???

Maybe your brain was saying to you, "If you don't use it, you lose it." Or, maybe the train magazines went into the footlocker.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on April 16, 2020, 10:16:50 pm
So instead of a traveling garden gnome you had traveling sunglasses.  ;D

Yes, and they were traveling without me.  LOL
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 26, 2020, 10:57:28 am
I was awakened last night by a dream so peculiar that I remember much of it. I was awakened by the sound of a telephone ringing, not some fancy smart phone ring tone but an old-fashioned ring. At first I thought it was my cell phone, but I realized that the ringing sounded distant, so that I thought it must be my land line phone in the living room. Then the thought came to that this couldn't be correct because I have an extension of the land line on the shelf of the night stand right next to my bed. Then I felt myself rolling out of bad and noticing that something was unplugged from the outlet behind the night stand, so I plugged it in; it was one of those adapter plugs like a phone charger. The next thing I remember, I'm back and bed and asking myself, Wait, did that really happen? I realized that it could not have really happened because the ringer is on, on the phone by the bed, so the sound of a phone ringing could not have been distant.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on April 26, 2020, 11:39:06 am
Hmm. A ringing phone could be an alarm, a warning, an attempt to tell yourself something ...

Maybe sounding distant could mean you're not totally thinking about it yet, or not heeding the ringing phone's message, whatever it is.


Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 13, 2020, 11:58:09 am
Sounds like the proverbial wake-up call!

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 13, 2020, 01:41:19 pm
Upon rereading this, it actually might have happened if the thing that was unplugged was your phone extension. If so, then the landline in the other room might have rung. R. has a landline which he never answers, and he tells me it rings all the time.

But if it was all a dream, then it's interesting that the phone had an old-fashioned ring and sounded like the call was from a distance. I wonder who would have been on the line if you had picked it up? Your mother or your late partner? You, from the past? Ennis, although he didn't have a phone?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 13, 2020, 06:28:08 pm
Upon rereading this, it actually might have happened if the thing that was unplugged was your phone extension. If so, then the landline in the other room might have rung. R. has a landline which he never answers, and he tells me it rings all the time.

But if it was all a dream, then it's interesting that the phone had an old-fashioned ring and sounded like the call was from a distance. I wonder who would have been on the line if you had picked it up? Your mother or your late partner? You, from the past? Ennis, although he didn't have a phone?

Well, it wasn't the land line that was unplugged because I saw it was the adapter I use to plug in to charge my cell phone. And in non-Dream Life, the ringer on the bedside land line.

I have my cell's ringer set to an old-fashioned phone ring tone, so it sounds like "a real telephone."  ;D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on May 13, 2020, 10:04:57 pm

I have my cell's ringer set to an old-fashioned phone ring tone, so it sounds like "a real telephone."  ;D


For a while I had my ring tone set to "Take on Me" by A-ha. But I forgot to silence in a few meetings, and under those circumstances a regular ring tone is definitely superior.  ::)


Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 14, 2020, 01:41:45 pm
For a while I had my ring tone set to "Take on Me" by A-ha. But I forgot to silence in a few meetings, and under those circumstances a regular ring tone is definitely superior.  ::)

I suppose you heard, a few days ago, someone was making a virtual argument to SCOTUS when someone flushed a toilet in the background.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on May 15, 2020, 09:50:30 am
I suppose you heard, a few days ago, someone was making a virtual argument to SCOTUS when someone flushed a toilet in the background.  :laugh:

I did, and what's worse, I saw someone on Slate try to work out which justice it would have been. I got a ways into it and then realized I don't even want to know.


Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 15, 2020, 01:29:15 pm
I did, and what's worse, I saw someone on Slate try to work out which justice it would have been. I got a ways into it and then realized I don't even want to know.

Oh, I didn't know it was a justice. I thought it was someone who was arguing the case, or someone in the background. It's even funnier that it was one of the justices. (I hope it was Kavanaugh.)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on May 16, 2020, 01:01:57 pm
Oh, I didn't know it was a justice. I thought it was someone who was arguing the case, or someone in the background. It's even funnier that it was one of the justices. (I hope it was Kavanaugh.)

Yeah, he's already a piece of shit.

Sorry for the crudeness, but I couldn't resist.

I gathered from the article that it was a remote discussion among the justices on Zoom or something similar, except that a number of the justices keep their video off. Some even keep their audio off. But not this person, unfortunately.




Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 06, 2020, 04:05:59 pm
Maybe this is just wishful thinking, but last night I had a dream that I was walking past my barber shop. The grating was still down over the windows, but you can see into the shop, and I saw my barber, who has the chair just inside the window, cutting someone's hair. Too bad it wasn't mine!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on June 07, 2020, 10:56:18 am
I told my son the photographer he should offer a service taking nice portraits of people with their COVID shutdown hair. Of course, not everybody would want it, but some might like to have it as a memento. Women are growing out their gray, men are growing beards, etc. My other son currently looks like a Civil War soldier but he says he's going to trim it to a close-cropped beard soon.


Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on June 10, 2020, 08:19:11 pm

I had a dream the other day that seems to be a cross between the Covid situation and the protests/riots.


I dreamed I was back at the office where I work.  A lot of my coworkers were in the office as well.  We were all running around, saying hello to each other.  Suddenly someone yelled out that the police were pulling in the parking lot.  Apparently we were still under pandemic rules, and should not have been there.  We all dropped to the floor and started crawling around so as not to be seen.

???
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: southendmd on June 11, 2020, 09:31:23 am
I had a very random dream last night.

Jeff and I were training for a mission to go to Mars. 

We met up because our last names are close to each other in the alphabet (actually true in real life). 

Oh, and Jake was there.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on June 11, 2020, 10:03:09 am
Oh, and Jake was there.   :laugh:

Too bad it wasn't Matt Damon; he could teach you to grow potatoes on Mars.


Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 11, 2020, 06:37:58 pm
Too bad it wasn't Matt Damon; he could teach you to grow potatoes on Mars.

E-x-c-u-u-s-e me? I'm perfectly capable of growing potatoes, thank you very much!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on June 12, 2020, 11:03:11 am
E-x-c-u-u-s-e me? I'm perfectly capable of growing potatoes, thank you very much!  :laugh:

On Mars?

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 12, 2020, 02:03:12 pm
On Mars?

Anywhere.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on June 12, 2020, 03:54:29 pm
Anywhere.  :laugh:

You know you have to use poop, right?

Oh actually, upon closer investigation it seems scientists have found a way to grow potatoes in Mars-like conditions, possibly without using feces. So if you keep up with cutting edge potato cultivation, I stand corrected.

This is from Science Magazine (https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/03/researchers-just-scienced-potatoes-out-mars-farming-experiment#:~:text=In%20the%20story%2C%20astronaut%20Mark,%E2%80%9Cnear%2Dmartian%E2%80%9D%20conditions.).

Quote
The Martian, Andy Weir’s famous space novel-turned-movie, may be coming true—at least as far as potatoes are concerned, Business Insider reports. In the story, astronaut Mark Watney (played by Matt Damon in the movie), survives being stranded on Mars by growing potatoes—using his own feces for fertilizer. Now, a new experiment here on Earth has shown potato plants can actually grow in “near-martian” conditions. The setup, put together by scientists at the International Potato Center, is a hermetically sealed container that mimics the day lengths, atmosphere, and temperature of Mars, fed by a “nutrient rich water” (no word on whether human waste was involved). In addition to encouraging Mars-terraform enthusiasts, the research could help us grow food on challenging parts of our own space-rock.

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on June 12, 2020, 04:54:28 pm
Had a strange dream the other night.

I dreamed that a friend of mine had died, and a group of us were helping his mother plan his wake.  I was going through pics to attach to boards, but the pics were ones that shouldn't exist.  Like, I found one of him and my mom when he was a child.  However, we didn't meet until he was an adult, so I have no idea what he looked like as a kid, and there would be no such picture.

after that, I found this large book-like item, it was made of a metal, tin perhaps, and each page was the same metal, and on each page was a different cross.  My friend's mother saw me looking at it and said she should take it to the wake.

That's when I woke up.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on June 12, 2020, 04:55:19 pm
I had a very random dream last night.

Jeff and I were training for a mission to go to Mars. 

We met up because our last names are close to each other in the alphabet (actually true in real life). 

Oh, and Jake was there.   :laugh:


Well, that's a different one!   What exactly was Jake doing there?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 12, 2020, 05:42:44 pm
Had a strange dream the other night.

I dreamed that a friend of mine had died, and a group of us were helping his mother plan his wake.  I was going through pics to attach to boards, but the pics were ones that shouldn't exist.  Like, I found one of him and my mom when he was a child.  However, we didn't meet until he was an adult, so I have no idea what he looked like as a kid, and there would be no such picture.
Maybe in your dream mind, you were brothers.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on June 13, 2020, 03:49:32 pm
No, that was not the case.  At one point in the dream I was talking to his mother, and in the pic I found it was him and my mother.  I recognized her as my mom, and I recognized his mom when I talked to her, so I'm not sure what that whole mess of a dream was.  LOL
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on July 13, 2020, 12:31:48 pm
Here's a little mini-dream I had in that twilight between awake and asleep. Someone gave me a phone number of someone/thing and it was (area code, local I think) 333-3333. And I said, "How am I going to remember that?" I think the dream me was joking, but I'm not totally sure.

It seemed kind of silly and funny, but maybe there's more to it than I think ...



Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 13, 2020, 02:11:11 pm
 :laugh:

Oh I'm sure you were joking!

Here in Denver the taxi companies take that phone number because it is so easy to remember. You used to see (before Uber/Lyft) taxis with that number written across the trunk.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on July 13, 2020, 05:08:56 pm
:laugh:

Oh I'm sure you were joking!

Here in Denver the taxi companies take that phone number because it is so easy to remember. You used to see (before Uber/Lyft) taxis with that number written across the trunk.

Maybe I'm having a Denver flashback! No, you're right, come to think of it I've seen that here, too.


Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 13, 2020, 09:02:47 pm
So, I had to make an airport run to pick up friend EDelMar who was returning from Arizona. And guess what was in front of me as I came   up to the terminal...a taxi!

Cue the Twilight Zone music!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on July 14, 2020, 10:01:30 am
So, I had to make an airport run to pick up friend EDelMar who was returning from Arizona. And guess what was in front of me as I came   up to the terminal...a taxi!

Cue the Twilight Zone music!

 :laugh: :laugh:

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 14, 2021, 05:33:02 pm
Do people sometimes have dreams where they're out and about, but they've forgotten their mask?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 15, 2021, 09:39:41 am
Do people sometimes have dreams where they're out and about, but they've forgotten their mask?

No. I've just actually forgotten it a couple of times. Fortunately I've caught myself early enough that I could go back and get it before I came in contact with anyone.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 15, 2021, 11:17:40 am
I only wear mine in stores and other inside places (unless I'm in a crowd). Luckily I carry masks in my bag, because I would say I start walking toward the building forgetting to wear a mask until I see someone else with one approximately 75% of the time. Sometimes I haven't remembered until I've actually stepped into the building.


Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on January 16, 2021, 01:35:09 am
Do people sometimes have dreams where they're out and about, but they've forgotten their mask?

No, I can't say that I've ever had that dream.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 16, 2021, 11:14:50 am
I rarely remember my dreams. Do you ever wake up, having just been in the middle of a dream with some unanswered question or problem or issue, you try to figure out the answer but suddenly, even though you were experiencing the dream less than a minute ago, you can't remember a single thing about it? You try to remember even the basic situation but the memory dissipates like mist in the air or sand between your fingers?


Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 16, 2021, 01:40:58 pm
This is what happens to most people. And then they decide that they don't dream at all, but it turns out that they are dreaming if you look at the EKG.

It takes a lot of skill and determination to be able to recall your dreams. Even though I have practiced it for years, I have periods where I can't recall my dreams for weeks. Oddly, research indicates that when your deep sleep is interrupted, you remember your dreams better.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 17, 2021, 12:10:35 pm
This is what happens to most people. And then they decide that they don't dream at all, but it turns out that they are dreaming if you look at the EKG.

I don't think I don't dream at all. I think my dreaming mind speaks a different language than my waking mind, which my waking mind has a hard time understanding. I think that's one of the reasons people don't remember early childhood -- small children don't think in language the way older kids and adults do, so their thoughts would not be accessible to an older mind.

When I wake up from a dream, at first I think something perfectly sensible was going on. But when I focus on it, it's so unconnected to real life I realize I don't understand it. Then it dissipates. Like smoke, I decided last night.

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It takes a lot of skill and determination to be able to recall your dreams.

So I've heard!


Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: RouxB on January 19, 2021, 03:31:31 am
I am most likely to remember my earlier morning dreams so I can get behind the theory that being abruptly awakened preserves the dream.
 O0
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 19, 2021, 10:40:16 am
Same.

Nice to see you around these parts, RouxB!



Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 19, 2021, 08:41:07 pm
(((RouxB!)))
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: RouxB on January 19, 2021, 09:55:26 pm
hi Jeff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 30, 2021, 08:25:07 pm
I am most likely to remember my earlier morning dreams so I can get behind the theory that being abruptly awakened preserves the dream.
 O0

That happened to me today! I went back to bed in the early morning and had a dream where I was in a huge home that had three levels, all very cluttered with furniture and appliances. My mother was there cooking two large fish on the stove top. (Funny, because I was at my daughter's the day before, and she was smoking some salmon in her fireplace). Mom said that since the fish were so large, she was going to invite some people over to help eat them. The next thing I knew, there were about 30 people sitting here and there. Mostly women but also a few couples. I realized that additional food was needed and volunteered to cook some wild and white rice, which would go well with the fish, and some vegetables. Mom said fine, but then she started serving the fish. I was alarmed because it would take some time to cook the other things. I thought, "oh well, we will just have courses." I tried to go downstairs to cook the rice, but couldn't find the ID I would need to get into the lower level. I sat down on the stairs and was going to...cry? give up? but fortunately I woke up in my own home and bed.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 30, 2021, 08:51:53 pm
Wow, that seems to have a lot of analytical potential.

Some say that when you dream of the interior of a house it often symbolizes your mind. I imagine you can think of things that some of the other aspects might refer to. Cluttered with furniture and appliances, your mother's cooking echoing that of your daughter's, her serving the fish before you've had a chance to prepare your dishes ...

Cooking salmon in the fireplace, though! That sounds delicious. And wild rice would make a nice accompaniment. Perhaps studded with dried cranberries, nuts, onions, maybe alongside some sautéed greens ... That could be dinner tomorrow or the next night. Probably sans fireplace but at least in the cast iron.




Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 30, 2021, 09:08:11 pm
smoking some salmon in her fireplace

That sounds like such a neat thing to do.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 30, 2021, 09:38:05 pm
Yes, first she built a nice fire (it's a woodburning fireplace) and let it burn down to coals, then she put all the coals on one side and on the other side she layered some wood chips that she had soaked in water and put the pan of salmon on top of that. She had brushed a solution of brown sugar, herbs, and seasonings on the salmon prior. She let it smoke for about an hour.

I've heard that you can smoke fish in cast iron, serious. I'll bet it would work just as well.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on January 31, 2021, 11:41:14 am
Yes, first she built a nice fire (it's a woodburning fireplace) and let it burn down to coals, then she put all the coals on one side and on the other side she layered some wood chips that she had soaked in water and put the pan of salmon on top of that. She had brushed a solution of brown sugar, herbs, and seasonings on the salmon prior. She let it smoke for about an hour.

I've heard that you can smoke fish in cast iron, serious. I'll bet it would work just as well.

Thanks, I'll look it up! I have a wood-burning fireplace but I'm always too lazy to use it. And I'm certainly not as skilled with it as your daughter.  :o


Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 01, 2021, 09:51:31 am
Years ago at one of the SCA events I attended in the summer, we had an enormous, raging campfire every evening. By the wee hours of the morning, just when everyone was ready to turn in, the fire would be burned down to a wonderful bed of coals that would have been perfect for cooking. It was really a shame that nobody was going to cook anything at 2 o'clock in the morning.

That's why all those ancient cast-iron kettles had feet on them. You didn't hang them over a fire. You sat them on a bed of coals.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 01, 2021, 10:46:37 pm
I've had some pleasant dreams the past couple of nights. I dreamed there was a tiny bird that was struggling for its life, and I held it in my cupped hands and occasionally brought it close to a dish of water, from which it drank. We bonded and the bird healed, eventually.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on February 02, 2021, 10:33:48 am
I've had some pleasant dreams the past couple of nights. I dreamed there was a tiny bird that was struggling for its life, and I held it in my cupped hands and occasionally brought it close to a dish of water, from which it drank. We bonded and the bird healed, eventually.


That's another one that sounds pretty analyzable. What aspect of your life or self would be healed if you were kind and gentle with it?



Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 02, 2021, 02:39:04 pm
Pretty much all aspects. It's high time I paid attention to my dreams again. Thank you, friend.  :-*
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 22, 2021, 02:33:18 pm
Communication breakthrough!
https://newatlas.com/science/lucid-dream-communication/?fbclid=IwAR01zcqBJxaP5C2GU8PZlwMeknF1nzty1M28bIgB206gdNafpLayG8rAK9k (https://newatlas.com/science/lucid-dream-communication/?fbclid=IwAR01zcqBJxaP5C2GU8PZlwMeknF1nzty1M28bIgB206gdNafpLayG8rAK9k)
Researchers have managed to make contact with 3 different kinds of lucid dreamers!

I don't know as I'd want to be asked to do math problems in my sleep, but it's a start!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 04, 2021, 09:22:03 pm
My dreams lately have been too fraught with angst to talk about, but here's one I had recently.

A crowd of people were in my home and I was trying to get them fed. I put down a platter of appetizer finger foods and they started helping themselves. They were animated and talking eagerly with each other but they didn't look  up at me or acknowledge me in any way.

In another part of the dream I was walking around without a shirt on. I laughed about it and said I was doing that so I could show off my colorful bra (it was royal blue).
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on August 05, 2021, 11:17:32 am
The first seems like it might be somehow connected to your experiences with the permaculture folks, right?

As for the second one ... I can't begin to guess!  :laugh:

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 05, 2021, 06:41:03 pm
Being without an article of clothing in a dream is actually kind of common. It may indicate feeling vulnerable or having your inner feelings or secrets exposed.

You're right about the first part having to do with my treatment at the hands of the permaculture gang. The latest things they've done are mindboggling to me. Their class was finally about to start, the one they were supposed to begin teaching in April. I had paved the way, obtaining special insurance and standing by to write them their first checks. But instead of submitting their invoices as they always have before, they removed me from the board and bank account and wrote their own counter checks for more than half of the Guild's total assets. That puzzled me, because I never have failed to give them a check for what they asked for in the past. In fact, I hand carried most of the checks to them since the post office has become so unreliable.

What they did next was outrageous. They stopped payment on another instructor's check for work he had already completed and they cancelled the  class midway through it, cheating two Hispanic instructors out of their pay and the students out of 32 hours of instruction. And they told the students they must transfer to their class, which costs way more and that they would not receive a refund. One of the students is having a letter drawn up by an attorney but I doubt if anything can be done.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on August 06, 2021, 02:01:37 pm
Being without an article of clothing in a dream is actually kind of common. It may indicate feeling vulnerable or having your inner feelings or secrets exposed.

True, but usually, as you say, that signifies vulnerability and/or embarrassment. That didn't sound like the vibe of your dream, if you were walking around laughing and showing off your bright blue bra!

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You're right about the first part having to do with my treatment at the hands of the permaculture gang. The latest things they've done are mindboggling to me. Their class was finally about to start, the one they were supposed to begin teaching in April. I had paved the way, obtaining special insurance and standing by to write them their first checks. But instead of submitting their invoices as they always have before, they removed me from the board and bank account and wrote their own counter checks for more than half of the Guild's total assets. That puzzled me, because I never have failed to give them a check for what they asked for in the past. In fact, I hand carried most of the checks to them since the post office has become so unreliable.

What they did next was outrageous. They stopped payment on another instructor's check for work he had already completed and they cancelled the  class midway through it, cheating two Hispanic instructors out of their pay and the students out of 32 hours of instruction. And they told the students they must transfer to their class, which costs way more and that they would not receive a refund. One of the students is having a letter drawn up by an attorney but I doubt if anything can be done.

Wow, that sounds awful! I don't completely understand who holds what power there, or why they can boss you around like that. But if they've cheated instructors out of their pay and students out of their tuition, I would certainly hope there'd be some legal recourse. Are they associated with some larger organization that would frown upon such actions?



Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 06, 2021, 06:53:03 pm
Wow, that sounds awful! I don't completely understand who holds what power there, or why they can boss you around like that. But if they've cheated instructors out of their pay and students out of their tuition, I would certainly hope there'd be some legal recourse. Are they associated with some larger organization that would frown upon such actions?
That is a flaw of the movement. There really is no national or international governing body. What little there is is an old boys' network.

I was on a hike today in the San Juan Mountains and somebody mentioned that it was commonplace to have nonsensical dreams and thoughts while trying to sleep at altitude. This was reassuring to me.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 20, 2021, 08:44:05 am
Well, here's one for the books.

Last night I dreamed I was back in the apartment where I lived from 1990 to 1995. Something seemed a bit "off," so I locked the deadbolt on the door.

Then I was in the bedroom, and there was a toilet (yes, a toilet!  :laugh:  ) next to the bed. (I could otherwise see the room quite clearly.)

Then I was in the bathroom, and again there was an issue with the toilet!   :laugh:  It was against the wall and facing it's position in reality.

Why on earth am I having dreams about toilets?  ???   :laugh:
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 24, 2021, 09:23:35 pm
This suddenly seems to be my season for dreams. I certainly had an odd one last night.

Actually, to begin, I was at my father's for the weekend. He insists on attending an 8 a.m. church service, which means I need to get up at the stinking early hour of 5:30 a.m. So last night I went to bed and set my alarm for 5:30. The alarm is a clock radio, and I always set it to play music. I went to sleep, and suddenly woke up, and immediately began to hear music. I reached over to hit the Snooze button, but nothing happened; the music continued to play. Then I realized it wasn't the clock radio; it was my phone: Spam text message! I turned off the phone.

I figured I was already awake, so I might as well get up. I didn't look at the time. I went into the bathroom and began to wash up. Then I noticed the time on the bathroom wall clock: 1:40! Feeling sheepish, I went back to bed. I managed to fall asleep, and that's when I had the dream.

I thought I heard music again. but I knew it was neither my phone nor the radio. In fact, it seemed to be coming from downstairs. I got up and went downstairs without turning on any lights. I got as far as the dining room. I could still hear music, and I saw that the kitchen door was open. I went back upstairs to wake my father, and to get the piece of board he keeps by his bed to use as a club. (I have never asked him why he feels this is necessary.)

I remember telling my father about the kitchen door being open, and reaching for the club. That's the last I remember.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 25, 2021, 06:10:30 pm
Hmmm. What kind of music was playing, in each case?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 26, 2021, 10:36:13 am
Hmmm. What kind of music was playing, in each case?

I don't recall. I just remember that I could hear it was music.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 28, 2021, 10:30:00 am
I'm surprised that you, a person so attuned to musical styles, wouldn't remember what was playing. I'm guessing the  music was an important part of the dream. See if you can recreate it, either waking or sleeping.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 28, 2021, 12:09:09 pm
Easier to say what it wasn't, which is Rock or Country. It was instrumental, which is all I can say.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 28, 2021, 02:32:14 pm
Okay, we can just say it was a generic type of music, neither happy or sad. No lyrics, so no message.

It seems like the music in your dream was coming from the kitchen. You said there were no lights on. How could you see that the kitchen door was open? Was light coming from the kitchen? Did  you get the feeling that there was someone in the kitchen and they were playing music? Did you think it might be a burglar?

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 29, 2021, 09:34:28 am
I'll contribute my latest dream.

I was living in a room with my two granddaughters. My mother lived in the room next to me, and she took the girls to her room. Whether for a visit or to stay, I can't say. So I went to her room to retrieve the girls. They were playing in one corner of the large room and my mother was in another corner, with her back to me, weaving a blanket Indian style. I looked around the room and in the third corner was a pretend fireplace made of cardboard, with the flames drawn on with crayon. There was also a real fireplace on the other wall. In the last corner was a window and a closet. The room was rather messy with clothes strewn about, but not cluttered. I kept my coat on so as to telegraph to everyone, including myself, that I wasn't staying.

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 30, 2021, 09:59:55 am
Here's some interpretation, as I see it. My mother is deceased, so I'm theorizing that the room is the afterworld. Like Persephone, I went there to retrieve the girls from Hades. The four corners were the quadrants of the underworld, and the window and closet were the ways out.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 07, 2022, 03:56:18 pm
I had a strange dream this morning in that space between sleeping and waking. I saw a three-pointed comet-like thing heading through space and at each point in the triangle rode a person, Nancy Pelosi, Liz Cheney, and Kamala Harris at the tip. They looked like warrior women of Valhalla! Then, they plummeted into a planetary balloon-type thing.

A few days ago I had a crushing dream where I was visiting my mother who lived in kind of a motel with many rooms. When I wound up my stay and started to prepare to leave, I found that all the other guests had taken all my clothes and hidden them in various rooms. I went randomly into rooms but couldn't find anything. I began a systematic search and was getting very frustrated and then I woke up.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 10, 2022, 08:13:19 pm
The moon is waxing gibbous and will be full in a few days. Cue the weird dreams. I'll just summarise last night's dream by saying I was feeding a lot of people. Surprise, I know. NOT! But here's the interesting thing. I got a message from our friend Truman saying he had an amazing lucid dream that I was in. And then I heard from another friend and another.... I shudder to think what is to come in the next few days.

By the way, Tru says he's on an expedition to Antarctica. Intrepid adventurer!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on February 11, 2022, 08:13:29 pm
By the way, Tru says he's on an expedition to Antarctica. Intrepid adventurer!

I have a Facebook friend, a guy who lives in MN (and who LOVES cold weather to a ridiculous degree even by MN standards) who's been posting pix from an expedition to Antarctica. Wouldn't it be wild if they were in the same group?


Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 12, 2022, 11:30:48 am
Yes, it would be wild! Ask him if there's a guy named Truman on board.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on February 12, 2022, 03:41:39 pm
OK, message sent. Also just noticed he tested positive for COVID somehow and is quarantined in Argentina. He notes on his FB page that the tour visited -- get this -- the Omicron Islands.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 13, 2022, 05:17:36 pm
Did they fly in via Delta Airlines? (a little gallows humor).  ::)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 27, 2022, 01:09:48 pm
Last night I dreamed I was in by bathroom when I noticed that the corner where the bathtub meets the wall was covered in some sort of black substance. It was some sort of mold or mildew. Then I noticed an even larger area on the corner where the two walls surrounding the bathtub meet.

This is all I remember, and what it might mean for me I have no idea. I do, however, have a pretty good idea where the image of the mold or mildew came from. Last evening I saw a TV news report about unhealthy and dangerous conditions in homes provided for the families of US military personnel who live on base. One soldier specified that his family had to move out of their home because of dangerous mold that was making his child sick.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on April 27, 2022, 10:10:49 pm
Last evening I saw a TV news report about unhealthy and dangerous conditions in homes provided for the families of US military personnel who live on base. One soldier specified that his family had to move out of their home because of dangerous mold that was making his child sick.

I have a poor friend who moved into a cheap apartment and had to move out because of mold.

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on April 27, 2022, 10:11:44 pm
Did they fly in via Delta Airlines? (a little gallows humor).  ::)

 :laugh: I hadn't even thought of that! Good one. Delta is the main airline out of Minneapolis. Bet they weren't too happy about having a variant named after them.

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 28, 2022, 01:25:48 pm
:laugh: I hadn't even thought of that! Good one. Delta is the main airline out of Minneapolis. Bet they weren't too happy about having a variant named after them.

"Delta is ready when you are." Fifty years ago and more, that was a tag line in commercials for Delta Airways, but I guess you could now say the Delta variant was read when you weren't.  :-\
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 28, 2022, 01:26:51 pm
I have a poor friend who moved into a cheap apartment and had to move out because of mold.

That's terrible.  :(
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on April 28, 2022, 04:16:26 pm
I guess you could now say the Delta variant was read when you weren't.  :-\

 :laugh:

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on September 20, 2022, 01:35:13 pm
My dreams of late have been very chaotic. This morning I woke very early and decided to see if I could sleep a little more. I did but the dream I had tired me out. I was in a new place, a very nice apartment with large sunny windows. But the living room was aclutter because an old boyfriend of mine (who I haven't seen in decades) had suddenly appeared and was building a mailbox in the middle of the floor. It was actually 2 mailboxes with bodies like oatmeal tins, attached to a stand that was sort of like a pen the size of a baby's crib made out of lath. As I talked to him and admired his handiwork, a woman suddenly appeared, very dark and attractive (looked like Stockard Channing). She seemed to be partnered with said old boyfriend and was the one who had tracked me down and moved them into my apartment. Gradually, the place filled up with more and more people, mostly women, who milled around and seemed to know each other. I went into various rooms and grew more and more agitated about what was going on without my knowledge or control.  :-\
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on September 20, 2022, 04:18:31 pm
I had a doozy of a dream last night.

I dreamed that when I got to work, the office had been rearranged, and everyone was sitting at tables similar to a preschool setting, no divisions between seats like the floorplan we have now.

I was surrounded by a group of younger employees, and we all got along really well.  One of the young women was mixing magic potions of some sort, and there was music piped in for us.

Suddenly, the radio started to play "Sister Golden Hair", and someone stood up and said "C'mon everyone, let's go dance outside!" and we all ran outside.  Instead of the usual asphalt parking lot, it was a park immediately outside the building, and everyone started dancing.

 :o :laugh:

that's when I woke up,  and no, "Sister Golden Hair" was not playing on the alarm clock.  LOL
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on September 26, 2022, 11:17:57 am
Sounds like the recreation of some fall ritual from the ancient times! That was a doozy for sure.

I've been at a conference of the tree people all weekend, and last night after I returned I had this dream, Sorry it's a bit long.

I was going for a job interview at a very old-fashioned office where the secretaries were all seated at large desks arranged around a central area, with offices around the perimeter. Everyone in the office was dressed in dowdy suits and clunky shoes with crisp white shirts. However, I was naked and walked through the aisles protecting my front with two large interoffice envelopes, the kind you could use over and over with closures of string wound around two paper circles. I didn't seem to be nonplussed by my uncovered state too much; this happens sometimes in my dreams and I've gotten used to it.

Eventually, I asked some of the ladies in the office if they had any extra clothes and shoes they could lend me and they all did. So, I was suitably dressed for the interview in the style of the office. The interview was more like a series of tasks that knights are given to win the princess's hand. One test was that a man came into the office and no one could figure out why he was there. He insisted that he had an appointment and sat down in the lobby, folding his suit jacket on his knee.

I was asked to greet him, keep him calm, and find out more information. I came to him and he stood respectfully. We shook hands and then sat down again. I asked his name and he said it was Mr. Vertrain. Very courteously I asked, "And what is your business with us here today, Mr. Vertrain?" Without speaking, he handed me a job application form which he had filled out with the name of Paul Verity at the top. So I asked, "Mr Verity, what job are you applying for?" He said he didn't know.

I relayed this information back to a group of people who were huddled around a desk in the central bullpen. Their response was to give me another charge: a small child who was wandering among the desks. I took her out to the lobby where a low table stood in a corner, with some wooden blocks and puzzles on it. She quickly sat down and started playing. Going back to Mr. Verity, I tried to get more information from him. The office workers had said that there were no more open jobs, but I didn't tell him that. His answers were puzzling and didn't give me any clues.

Since we were not making any progress I offered to give him a tour of the office. The child came along as well. The office workers didn't give us any attention, as if they were only projections on a screen. The girl danced and twirled around us and Paul listened intently to my descriptions which were entirely made up. We came to an empty office with two large windows that were open. "And this would be your office," I said with a flourish. Rather than being pleased he seemed to be somewhat disconcerted.

A couple rushed in, with papers, books and coats in their arms. "We've been looking for you," they cried. "We have a book for you." They handed me an old-fashioned leather-bound book and rushed out again. I excused myself from the room, leaving the child under the supervision of Verity. She was sitting quietly in a chair so it didn't seem to be a big challenge. I left them regarding each other quietly.

I went into another empty office which had a safe with an open door. The book in my hands had several scraps of paper sticking out of it at odd angles as if the previous reader wanted to mark the place of important passages. I decided to clean the book up before handing it over to management. I began to open the book in my hands and take out the scraps, putting them in the pocket of my suit jacket. Juggling the book, I came to the last marked passage and saw that the center of the pages had been cut out and a mechanism like a clockworks had been inserted, with the paper scrap sticking out of it. It was a bomb! With lightning fast thinking, I weighed whether to put it into the safe or to throw it out the window. I decided to throw it out the window but first I looked out and below to see if there were people. Although there weren't any I called out "Get away, it's a bomb!" and then threw the book out but didn't see it land. I closed the window and turned around. At last the people in the office were paying attention. I went back to the corner office but Verity and the child had left. One of the office workers came up to me and said, "Congratulations, you have the job."
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 02, 2023, 01:34:31 pm
My New Year's dream brought a few epiphanies. There were the usual crowds of people in my dream. There was a house as usual. This particular house was a ramshackle place that my son had bought on a whim for his family and me to live in. He had put in an offer which was accepted but the sellers hadn't announced it yet so looky-loos were streaming in and going through all the rooms.

At first I thought the house was a disaster, with windows and doors made from scavenged parts and walls covered in graffiti. But then I noticed that it had some very nice appliances and special features such as a great security system. If my son was willing to put in a lot of work, maybe this house would work for us after some time. Then, my son whispered into my ear that the house was formerly owned by a celebrity. Who was it, I asked. "Anthony Quinn" he answered.

I looked at the house with new eyes. Suddenly it seemed charmingly eccentric. I went outside where there was a fantastic view across a valley and there were pools and bathing places with hot, warm, and cool waters. Back inside, I admired the graffiti-covered walls which now seemed artistic and profound. In one room, two women were scrubbing the walls and removing the paint. "Stop!" I cried. "I own this now!" They didn't believe me and I had to go hunt the sellers to confirm that the house had been sold. I waited patiently to talk to my son who was talking to someone in the hallway. Recognizing the voice, I saw that it was Alan Alda. I was torn between wanting to talk to him myself, wanting to get my son to stop the de-graffitiing, and wanting to explore the house more.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 18, 2023, 01:08:15 pm
A movie has come out that is so much like my dreams that I couldn't finish watching it. Have any of you seen "Everything, Everywhere, All at Once"? Well, that is what my dreams are like. Exhausting! Although I did like the idea of Michelle Yeoh playing me.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 24, 2023, 12:25:11 pm
I was finally able to finish watching that movie last night. What really helped was seeing the comedy in it. That's what also makes my dreams so memorable too...seeing the absurdity of life and using it as a tool. I woke up to learn that it has been nominated for several Oscars. 
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 30, 2023, 06:38:38 pm
Have you ever gone to a movie and then seen the movie set in your dream or had some of the characters appear? I imagine this happens a lot. But, have you ever had the opposite happen, where you go to a movie and recognize the set and/or characters that you dreamed about in the past? This happened to me last Friday. I saw the movie "Living" with Bill Nighy, and the main set, an office building in London, was the same as in my dream from last September!!  :o

...I was going for a job interview at a very old-fashioned office where the secretaries were all seated at large desks arranged around a central area, with offices around the perimeter. Everyone in the office was dressed in dowdy suits and clunky shoes with crisp white shirts.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: CellarDweller on February 02, 2023, 06:13:33 pm
No, I've never had that experience before.  Not that I can remember, anyway.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 27, 2023, 11:53:02 am
My dream night before last was quite different although it had many of the same elements as usual. I was in a modern office tower but this time I was moving in and preparing to start a new job. There were people around, I could hear them out in the large main area, but I was in a somewhat secluded alcove, setting up my desk. All of my supplies looked like they were from Barnes & Noble, lovely flowered pens, bookmarks, sticky notes, etc. And a cozy throw for when it was drafty or chilly.

Then, I could see a peek through an open door that there was a man setting up his office about 50 ft. away. His office had a window, blinds, and light coming through. A feeling came over me of the situation being unfair. My space was nice, but it didn't have the trappings of power that his did. I turned my back to him and continued setting up. I made a conscious decision that I wasn't going to say anything about the inequity and I was going to establish my own power without trappings.

As I finished up, some women came by one by one and complemented me on the look of the space. I noticed that someone had pulled a curtain over the entrance so I would have more privacy. It was almost like having a private office. There was a window that I hadn't noticed before. I woke up feeling very well rested, alert, and sharp. Getting a good night's sleep is very health-giving and valuable.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 22, 2023, 10:01:36 am
Gradually my dreams are shrinking down in scope so they feel less overwhelming. I'm interrelating with smaller groups of people and the burdens of responsibility are dissolving away. It feels more like a free exchange of ideas and the giving is more mutual and free will. Last night, it was just a horse. I was in a barn, in a stall with the horse, and I was cleaning out the stall, but the stall was fairly clean already, so I was basically keeping the horse company. And she was communicating with me somehow, like the horses in Gulliver's Travels.

And then I had a dream where I was photographing Harry Styles for a movie promo. The movie? John Waters' Hairstyles, of course!
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on March 22, 2023, 11:37:47 am
I was finally able to finish watching that movie last night. What really helped was seeing the comedy in it. That's what also makes my dreams so memorable too...seeing the absurdity of life and using it as a tool. I woke up to learn that it has been nominated for several Oscars.

I watched the first half Sunday and haven't brought myself to finish it. TBH I thought it was boring -- they just kept zipping around from one setting to another, people would start beating each other up, and off they'd zip again. I had no idea what the underlying mission was. But then, that's not unusual, I can never follow regular action movies, either.

I'm hoping the reason I can't follow them is because I'm so uninterested in them (and maybe also not up on the tropes). But I can't help remembering my grandmother, who in her later years had no idea what was happening in, like, Frasier.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 06, 2023, 10:43:23 am
I had a full moon dream for sure last night. It began well...I met a tall man who looked something like Armie Hammer and we became a couple. We were at a conference at the university where I had received my degree. We were going to a reception and I was trying to figure out where. The program seemed to have gone missing and, though there were a lot of people around, no one seemed to know. Finally I got a lady who seemed to be part of the cleaning staff to write the address on a piece of notebook paper.

I went off from my new lover to find out how to get to the reception. There was a table of ladies with an empty spot and I sat down and introduced myself. Since I couldn't read the address I passed the slip of paper to the lady next to me who passed it to another lady at the head of the table. She wore an old fashioned dress and a beehive hairdo. I asked her to read the address so I could rewrite it in my journal. Tentatively she said, "Billing conferencing 1020 Fillmore" in a small voice. Jokingly I replied that I needed to get out my ear trumpet so I could hear her. She and everybody laughed. She tried again, "Building conferencini..." I thought I detected a bit of an Italian accent and thought I'd take my chances on a second joke. Unfortunately, it was a Godfather joke, and I could tell immediately that she took offense. She pressed her lips together in disapproval. I waved my hands in the air and apologized and said, "Since my ex-husband is Italian and I have an Italian last name I thought it was okay to joke about it." But it was not okay. In dismay, I realized that I was waving my arms like the stereotype of an Italian. There was nothing to do but excuse myself and leave the table. She gave me the paper back and when I studied it long enough I was able to make out the address.

I hurried back to the place where my man was waiting, but suddenly a big purple monster started coming after me. It looked sort of like the hound of the Baskervilles and snapped at me with sharp teeth and jaws. The only way I could keep it from biting my face was to press my head into the side of its head and press my whole body into its flanks. I couldn't do this for long, so I just backed away and looked at it. It looked back, reached out and took a small bite out of my chin. This seemed to satisfy it and it bounded away. I finally arrived at the little inn but my lover was nowhere to be seen. Someone said a bus had come to take everyone to the reception. I contemplated whether to catch an Uber but, since my chin was bleeding, I decided not to.

(In real life I don't recall ever telling a Godfather joke, I hasten to add)
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on July 06, 2023, 12:58:34 pm
I was in a CVS drug store recently having the manager take my passport photo. I asked him whether they carried sparkling mineral water and he led me to the section and named some brands. He pronounced San Pellegrino with a rolled R, so I asked if he was Italian; prior to that I'd detected no accent. Turns out he's both Italian and American and travels back and forth. I told him I'd been to Italy twice and he wanted to know what cities I'd visited. I did not tell a Godfather joke.  :laugh:

But enough about me, back to your dream! I see two allusions to cannibalism in your dream: Armie Hammer and the monster. Does that connection sound meaningful to you, and if so what do you make of it?

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 06, 2023, 09:26:46 pm
But enough about me, back to your dream! I see two allusions to cannibalism in your dream: Armie Hammer and the monster. Does that connection sound meaningful to you, and if so what do you make of it?

Maybe with a side of fava beans?
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 07, 2023, 12:16:48 pm
Maybe with a side of fava beans?

Haha, I  think that's a Hannibal Lechter reference, right? I'm not sure what the connection to cannibalism and Armie Hammer is, and not sure I want to know. So let's say my lover in the dream looked a little like a Ken doll instead.

About the monster, it was purple with green spots and I think it actually had two  heads but one was on a short neck so it was not a threat. That whole part of the dream reminded me of the passage in Brokeback Mountain where the spoon and cup were in lurid cartoon colors and the  spoon resembled a tire iron. Sometimes your brain does things to try to defuse a situation so you can tolerate it.

A lot of my dreams have metaphors and puns. So I think that the monster biting my chin means that sometimes my past actions will come back to bite me. Literally.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on July 07, 2023, 12:44:27 pm
Maybe with a side of fava beans?

And a nice chianti.  :laugh:


I'm not sure what the connection to cannibalism and Armie Hammer is, and not sure I want to know.

Let's just say he's fallen from grace. He hasn't eaten anybody's liver or any body part AFAIK but some little gross things, also told women he imagined eating their ribs. But the real dealbreaker was that he was abusive and rapey. Sorry to have to break this to you. If you google "Armie Hammer cannibal" you'll see a bunch of articles describing his specific actions.

But if you weren't aware of this, then obviously the Armie in your dream did not hold that meaning, so whew.

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So let's say my lover in the dream looked a little like a Ken doll instead.

Much better, because a Ken doll apparently looks like Ryan Gosling and that's about as good as you can get!

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So I think that the monster biting my chin means that sometimes my past actions will come back to bite me. Literally.

That's an intriguing interpretation!

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 07, 2023, 01:31:36 pm
And a nice chianti.  :laugh:

I wasn't sure of the wine.  ;D

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Much better, because a Ken doll apparently looks like Ryan Gosling and that's about as good as you can get!

That's a movie I think I'd actually like to see, that and Asteroid City.   :D
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on August 09, 2023, 09:46:16 am
Last night I woke up at about 3 a.m., half-remembering a dream I'd just had. I could vaguely see meaning in the part I could remember, and I told myself I would come here today and write about it. But now I have no memory of even that part.

Maybe I should keep note paper by my bed. Although I have a feeling any notes I might have jotted at 3 a.m. would be unreadable or make no sense now.

My theory is that dreams happen in a language so different from that of your conscious brain that it doesn't translate well and the memory fades far more quickly than memories of waking experiences.

Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 10, 2023, 09:32:16 am
I think you are right, friend. I think dreams go into the short storage area of the brain and rarely get into the long storage.

But you can train yourself to remember dreams. Writing them down helps, yes, or you could go over your dream as soon as you wake up and take note of the highlights and put them into longer term storage. But even five minutes after waking, awake thoughts move in and crowd out the dream. Look up lucid dreaming for more tips.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: serious crayons on August 10, 2023, 10:05:23 am
Thanks, FRiend.

It's such a weird phenomenon -- even the other night when I briefly remembered part of my dream, at first I thought I remembered it all, but as soon as I tried to focus on it, it just disintegrated and vanished.


Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 11, 2023, 09:11:08 am
It is weird.

Another thing that works for me is when I lay down to sleep, I think to myself "I'm going to remember my dream tonight." Then, when I start to dream, part of my brain is awake and observing me. My dream usually starts in a room. I like to go around the room looking at everything and every one in it. There are usually one or more significant things. I try to memorize the details and take a snapshot of it in my brain.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 08, 2023, 03:12:56 pm
A memorable dream last night. I was working in an old building for a corporation of some kind. I didn't have much to do so I started taking an interest in the work of a woman in the office next to mine. She was writing some grant applications to get funding for some new technology that would save energy. By chance, I started reading that day's Wall Street Journal and, you know how they cover off-the-wall news in the middle column on the front page? There was an article about what an energy waste the old technology was that my coworker's client was trying to replace.

I rushed into her office and showed her the article but she seemed not to grasp how it could be used in her grant application. I told her to cut out and copy the article and attach it and refer to it. Later, she was finalizing the paper and I noticed that she had cut out just a small portion of the article that didn't have any impact. "Here let me help you; where's the newspaper?" I said but she said she had already put the WSJ in the recycling.

I rushed into action and found out the recycling was in the basement so I ran down the stair and retrieved it just as it was being tossed into a large incinerator (so much for recycling!). Returning, I got into an elevator that had no sides or ceiling, just a platform and just as it was starting to rise, the coworker pulled it out of its shaft and asked me pointedly what I was doing. Fortunately there was a well equipped art room nearby so I showed her how to copy and reduce the masthead, the date, etc. and tape it to the top of a sheet of paper and then position the article below it. I told her about how clipping services used to do this and I would have a sheaf of articles to deliver to the company leadership every morning. She seemed confused still. I told her how to refer to the article in her application and point out its ramifications. She didn't seem to understand what the big deal was and I'm not sure she followed my advice. But I left the building knowing I had tried my best.
Title: Re: Dream Interpretation
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 13, 2024, 03:04:43 pm
Last night I had a brief one, but it was a whopper. I only wish/hope it's a premonition, not just a dream.

I woke up believing that Marjorie Taylor Greene had resigned from Congress!  :laugh:

Where that came from, I have no clue.

If only she would be gone, or if someone would drop a house on her.