Why did Annie/Brokeback Mountain movie used men abused as children, why why why?
Why did Annie/Brokeback Mountain movie used men abused as children, why why why?
Merci beaucoup brokeplex!!
Your post reveals much. You are brilliant!!
A- I am very happily surprised to think that Lureen was possibly a victim of incest !! In the past, I did think that,
but I did NOT dare mention it before, because many were displeased that I thought that she was lesbian !! ??
So, maybe that could be like a proof ??
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B- It just now brings me to mind (to my surprise) that Jack was so sexually abused too... as maybe incest ??
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C- Am also surprised that you think differently about abuse !! Maybe that or those concepts vary/ are varied ??
Au revoir,
hugs! You merit more than one trumpet for yourgreat[/b] post!! Good start !! Pray you'll add many too !!
Merci brokeplex!
Now, you are making me pensive... much more and that's good !!
1- I agree with you that Bobby is likely not Lureen's child !! I always thought that and still think so, much especially if she is lesbian (not to be negative against lesbians now); and if she was abuse in an incest way, than that is a gray light, making her sad !! And her actions are therefore coloured to somehow revenge is that it: her towards the incest abuser ??
2- I am starting to see Jack as a victim of sexual abuse !! Yes! Think about it ??
Later as I must check to see which movie is coming up (with toi 4 cheeked in it maybe) ?
Waiting for your news,
hugs!!
Merci brokeplex!
Since you are asking me for evidence, you are asked to hand some too please:
1- Where is the suggestion that LD is the father of Bobby ?? (Who is LD again?)
2- Someone wrote to me that children wantto helpthe parent who abused them ! So maybe that is a clue that Jack had been abused ??
Au revoir,
hugs!
(note that Jack is being abused by LD till then, and even after since he was offered $ to go away,)
hugs! And Jack does NOT go away because he was an abused child in his youth... so stays with Lureen
In the S.S Jack tells how his father urinated over him when he kept mising the toilet.To me that has always had sexual overtones to it.There is a phrase is there not used to describe the act of urinating on your partner during sex,it is called a golden shower.At worst it has I think sexual overtones.at best it is an abusive act anyway.
I can think of no "normal" father who would act in such a fashion,to try and toilet train a kid.It leaves a nasty taste.
As to whether the child is Jacks or not,there is no evidence time line wise in the s.s to indicate either way.It is the film and screenplay where the whole thing becomes more ambiguous.Only Proulx heself I think knows the answer to that.In the ss it ays that Jack goes back to BBM the next year but as there is no work goes rodeoing in Texas,then meets Lureen,but there is no indication of the time elapsed.The only mention of time is when they meet after 4 years we know Jacks kid is 8 months old.So he could easily be Jacks.4 years is plenty of time to meet Lureen,get her pregnant and then the child be 8 months old.
I agree if the child is not Jacks the that opens up a whole new minefield.The one thing I love about Proulx is that she does not spoon feed you.That means that pretty well everything is open to interpretation by each individual
Thanks Elaine!
I am very pleased with your post too.
You accentuate that Annie does add abuse to increase fear ??
Both, but WHY does Annie do that to both Ennis and Jack ??
Ennis and Jack both seemed continuing the different forms of abuse that they had as children, but why not have only ONE instead of the two ??
Au revoir,
hugs!!