An interesting thing there is that when their hands touch (as Jack hands the lighter over), Ennis clears his throat and looks around self-consciously, as if thinking, "hope no one else in the room caught that spark".
Hmm....that's interesting Amanda. One thing I always noticed in the movie is that he asks to borrow Jack's lighter when they're in the bar - not a huge thing, I know. But since we see him smoking when he's alone outside the trailer, we know he must have his own matches. I guess we could say it's just a matter of convenience to use Jack's lighter, but maybe subconsciously he's already trying to make some kind of connection with Jack? Or maybe I'm reading too much into it. I'll have to ponder this some more.....
Marie
It is now clear to me (at least moreso than viewing 1) that there was some subtle flirting on Ennis' part:
- let's git if you don't want to stand around tying knots all day.
and
- you may be a sinner but I ain't yet had the opportunity.
!!!
The question about whether or not Ennis flirted (even subconsciously on his part) is of particular interest I think because it dovetails with a question many folks have about how Jack calculated the risk involved in making the move he did at the beginning of the TS1 encounter. I mean the clues he must have been picking up leading up to TS1 must have somehow indicated to him that there was a good chance Ennis would respond to Jack's "first move" in a positive way.
I think many aspects of this question have probably been hashed out before, but I still think it's interesting to ponder what exactly led Jack to be so brave in that particular move.
Yeah. Ennis flirted. But it was kept a little bit underwraps.
Oh, if y'all don't mind me adding, the scene where Ennis is bathing nude in the background and Jack was trying hard not to look while cutting potatoes, I heard someone saying that Ennis in a way was sort of inticing Jack. You know, he would've gone down the creek and bathed but no. He was really comfortable aroud his co-worker/friend/soon-to-be beau. Usually he was so shy and introverted that he shoted away from people he wasn't really comfortable with. But, Jack, he felt free and he was attracted to him for sure.
Hey, it's good that he actually fet comfortable for once in his life, though.
God, I love both of them in that precious scene! *sigh*
Oh, me too, Fabienne! This is a scene I never get tired of watching. And "the look" never fails to just kill me. Talk about a picture being worth a thousand words.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z196/mariez65/brokebackmtn_0601-1.jpg)
This is a great topic. :)
The thing that came to my mind about Ennis flirting, was his line 'Hell, that's more words than I spoke in a year.'
He was engaged when he met Jack and Jack already knew that at this point. So Ennis was telling Jack 'I like talking to you so much. I've spoken more to you than I've done with other people, including Alma.' And the way he feels comfortable enough to share this with Jack, barring his soul like that. Painful as that revelation might have been (Ennis basically tells Jack about loneliness and not fitting in), it tells Jack a lot, I think.
And the way Ennis looks at Jack after he tells him this, he must have known what message he was sending.
God, I love both of them in that precious scene! *sigh*
Wow optom !
Well said !
If I may say, I would take that word almost therefore out ?
Since, Ennis was flirting then ?
Au revoir,
hugs!
I think even in the moments when we perceive Ennis to be "flirting"... or revealing his attraction to Jack, he is almost always doing this subconsciously or almost despite himself. When he's around Jack... early on and through the film... he wears his heart on his sleeve a little bit more than he seems to in other situations. But, only a little bit.
I think even in the moments when we perceive Ennis to be "flirting"... or revealing his attraction to Jack, he is almost always doing this subconsciously or almost despite himself. When he's around Jack... early on and through the film... he wears his heart on his sleeve a little bit more than he seems to in other situations. But, only a little bit.
It was a done deal, maybe as soon as Jack said 'nice to know you Ennis Del Mar'. :)
I was reading a Brokback Trivia site yesterday and came accross this......
Director Ang Lee gave Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal copies of the book, "Farm Boys: Lives of Gay Men from the Rural Midwest", by Will Fellows, a book that had been mentioned by both Annie Proulx and Diana Ossana as an excellent reference source, to help them understand their characters. Noting what he learned from his reading, Gyllenhaal said, "I dont't think that these two characters even know what gay is"
I was reading a Brokback Trivia site yesterday and came accross this......
Director Ang Lee gave Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal copies of the book, "Farm Boys: Lives of Gay Men from the Rural Midwest", by Will Fellows, a book that had been mentioned by both Annie Proulx and Diana Ossana as an excellent reference source, to help them understand their characters. Noting what he learned from his reading, Gyllenhaal said, "I dont't think that these two characters even know what gay is"
Howdy, lancecowboy. Nice to see that you're lovin' this site. :)
Btw, you guys, I've heard of that trivia thing about that and it's really good. And I agree with Jake on that statement. Back in the sixties, there WASN'T a name for describing same-sex relationships. But, that was an interestingly great piece of trivia for us.
Oh, me too, Fabienne! This is a scene I never get tired of watching. And "the look" never fails to just kill me. Talk about a picture being worth a thousand words.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z196/mariez65/brokebackmtn_0601-1.jpg)