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Title: Pope Joan
Post by: delalluvia on November 02, 2009, 11:01:51 pm

Not sure how I missed this.  It's a German movie, but it has relatively well known English and American actors in it as well.  Wonder when it's going to open here in the U.S.

Has anyone read the book?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/Jovieve/popejoan2.jpg)
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: Kerry on November 02, 2009, 11:52:10 pm
Looks interesting. David Wenham is an Australian actor, born and raised in the inner-Sydney suburb of Marrickville, which is close to where I live. Some years ago he was in a wank of a play called "Art" at the Theatre Royal in Sydney. We had good seats close to the stage. It was sooooooo booooooring, I soon fell fast asleep. I woke with a start to find Wenham glowering hatefully at me from the nearby stage. I was assured by my companion that I wasn't snoring!  :o   :laugh:
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: delalluvia on November 03, 2009, 01:00:18 am
Looks interesting. David Wenham is an Australian actor, born and raised in the inner-Sydney suburb of Marrickville, which is close to where I live. Some years ago he was in a wank of a play called "Art" at the Theatre Royal in Sydney. We had good seats close to the stage. It was sooooooo booooooring, I soon fell fast asleep. I woke with a start to find Wenham glowering hatefully at me from the nearby stage. I was assured by my companion that I wasn't snoring!  :o   :laugh:

Alas, I loooove Wenham.  He was Faramir.  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: Monika on November 03, 2009, 01:28:33 am
Looks interesting. David Wenham is an Australian actor, born and raised in the inner-Sydney suburb of Marrickville, which is close to where I live. Some years ago he was in a wank of a play called "Art" at the Theatre Royal in Sydney. We had good seats close to the stage. It was sooooooo booooooring, I soon fell fast asleep. I woke with a start to find Wenham glowering hatefully at me from the nearby stage. I was assured by my companion that I wasn't snoring!  :o   :laugh:
:laugh: ;)


I remember Wenham from the tv-series SeaChange. I had a little crush on him back then :)
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: Kerry on November 03, 2009, 01:51:46 am
:laugh: ;)

I remember Wenham from the tv-series SeaChange. I had a little crush on him back then :)

I liked him in Sea Change too, even though they did blond him up for the role of Diver Dan. He's really quite a carrot-top in real life.
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: Penthesilea on November 03, 2009, 02:07:56 am
Has anyone read the book?

Here in Germany, all the world and his brother has read the book, it was a big, big bestseller. My husband and all in-laws have read it and recommended it. I haven't heard of anybody who, overall, didn't like it.
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: Monika on November 03, 2009, 07:12:56 am
I liked him in Sea Change too, even though they did blond him up for the role of Diver Dan. He's really quite a carrot-top in real life.
ah yes. Diver Dan. Yummy!

Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: delalluvia on November 03, 2009, 12:03:54 pm
Here in Germany, all the world and his brother has read the book, it was a big, big bestseller. My husband and all in-laws have read it and recommended it. I haven't heard of anybody who, overall, didn't like it.

I've just ordered the book from my local library.  It's not a bodice-buster, book, is it?
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 03, 2009, 01:18:35 pm
I've just ordered the book from my local library.  It's not a bodice-buster, book, is it?

Doesn't she give birth during a papal procession?
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: Penthesilea on November 03, 2009, 03:17:33 pm
I've just ordered the book from my local library.  It's not a bodice-buster, book, is it?


I had to look up what bodice-buster is :laugh:.

Husband says no, not a bodice-buster.


And for all foreign speakers (or anyone who's not heard the expression):

bodice ripper 
–noun Informal. a modern Gothic novel or historical romance, usually in paperback format, featuring at least one passionate love scene, characteristically one in which the heroine vainly resists submitting to the villain or hero.

Also called bodice buster.
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: delalluvia on November 03, 2009, 09:02:15 pm
Doesn't she give birth during a papal procession?

Yep.

Kind of a dead giveaway.  :-\
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: delalluvia on November 03, 2009, 09:03:43 pm

I had to look up what bodice-buster is :laugh:.

Husband says no, not a bodice-buster.


And for all foreign speakers (or anyone who's not heard the expression):

bodice ripper 
–noun Informal. a modern Gothic novel or historical romance, usually in paperback format, featuring at least one passionate love scene, characteristically one in which the heroine vainly resists submitting to the villain or hero.

Also called bodice buster.


Oops, sorry, my reference was obscure.  Yes, that is what I was asking.  :)
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 03, 2009, 11:16:44 pm

I had to look up what bodice-buster is :laugh:.

Husband says no, not a bodice-buster.


And for all foreign speakers (or anyone who's not heard the expression):

bodice ripper 
–noun Informal. a modern Gothic novel or historical romance, usually in paperback format, featuring at least one passionate love scene, characteristically one in which the heroine vainly resists submitting to the villain or hero.

Also called bodice buster.


If my memory serves, didn't Fabio become famous for being on the cover of bodice-rippers?
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: delalluvia on November 04, 2009, 01:00:31 pm
If my memory serves, didn't Fabio become famous for being on the cover of bodice-rippers?

VERY famous.  His name is practically a reference.
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 04, 2009, 01:04:47 pm
VERY famous.  His name is practically a reference.

I thought I remembered that correctly.  ;D

I suppose there are worse things for which to be famous. ...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: southendmd on November 04, 2009, 01:26:02 pm
(http://blogs.skokielibrary.info/bookshelf/files/2009/03/arts_harlequin-fabio_220.jpg)
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 04, 2009, 02:48:17 pm
(http://blogs.skokielibrary.info/bookshelf/files/2009/03/arts_harlequin-fabio_220.jpg)

Oooh! A "Harlequin Historical"!  :laugh:

In my neighborhood pharmacy, the rack of cheesey paperback romance novels (bodice-rippers all) is near the prescription counter. Sometimes while I'm waiting for a prescription to be filled, I'll take a look at the book covers. I get the biggest (silent) laugh from the covers of books where the hero is supposed to be a Native American, yet clearly the model is of European ancestry.

You'd think they could at least find a hunky Native American somewhere who would pose with his shirt off for a few bucks.  ::)
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: Clyde-B on November 04, 2009, 02:51:53 pm
If these are Bodice Rippers, how come it's the guy's clothes that are always in tatters?  (Not that I mind, you understand!  ;D)
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: Penthesilea on November 04, 2009, 04:03:12 pm
(http://blogs.skokielibrary.info/bookshelf/files/2009/03/arts_harlequin-fabio_220.jpg)

Same horror stuff here:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51O8SDMlg-L._SL500_AA240_.jpg)


OMG, I'm just picturing all my in-laws reading such cheesy bodice rippers :laugh:.
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: delalluvia on November 04, 2009, 04:25:52 pm
(http://blogs.skokielibrary.info/bookshelf/files/2009/03/arts_harlequin-fabio_220.jpg)

Dang!  Whew!  There IS a reason he became famous.  ;D
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: delalluvia on November 04, 2009, 04:26:52 pm
If these are Bodice Rippers, how come it's the guy's clothes that are always in tatters?  (Not that I mind, you understand!  ;D)

 :laugh: :laugh:

I was about to say, what do you care whose bodice is or isn't ripped?  ;)
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: Kerry on November 04, 2009, 06:01:16 pm
Fabio was famous for his long, flowing locks . . . . . . and for another couple of things too!  :o

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o126/kez4oz/Album%202/fabio2.jpg)
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: delalluvia on December 09, 2009, 03:15:28 am
Looks interesting. David Wenham is an Australian actor, born and raised in the inner-Sydney suburb of Marrickville, which is close to where I live. Some years ago he was in a wank of a play called "Art" at the Theatre Royal in Sydney. We had good seats close to the stage. It was sooooooo booooooring, I soon fell fast asleep. I woke with a start to find Wenham glowering hatefully at me from the nearby stage. I was assured by my companion that I wasn't snoring!  :o   :laugh:

I liked him in Sea Change too, even though they did blond him up for the role of Diver Dan. He's really quite a carrot-top in real life.

Hey Kerry  I remembered your comment and while I was watching the Lord of the Rings Extras, Wenham was interviewed with some comments and yes, he's quite the red head. 

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/Jovieve/David1.jpg)

 :-* :-* [drool]  I have a thing for redheads. 

I had already loved him as Faramir

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/Jovieve/David2.jpg)

and some other roles.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/Jovieve/David.jpg)

He's got quite the CV

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/Jovieve/david3.jpg)
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: delalluvia on January 18, 2010, 02:02:03 am
OK, finished the book Pope Joan and was underwhelmed.

Good book, easy read, don't get me wrong.  Kept me turning the pages and thankfully, it wasn't a bodice-ripping soap opera in the grandest sense that you'd expect knowing how the Pope was unmasked, but her character did seem a little lame.


POSSIBLE SPOILER
















She was in control of her own destiny which makes things less like a tragedy and more like the results of stubborn stupidity.
Title: Re: Pope Joan
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 18, 2010, 02:55:22 am
:-* :-* [drool]  I have a thing for redheads. 

Redheads are hot. ...  :)