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Title: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: rtprod on April 02, 2006, 07:27:09 pm
Scroll down for the "full details" !

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news06/060401c.php (http://www.darkhorizons.com/news06/060401c.php)

"With the box-office success of "Brokeback" without question, Focus Features have revealed that whilst we will be getting the two-disc DVD theatrical edition next week, a three-disc unrated 'director's cut' has been planned for release later this year. The new version of the film runs seventeen minutes longer and is said to include more backstory for Williams & Hathaway's characters in the film, make the film's rather tame gay sex scenes much more explicit and accurate to the short story, and include a 'happier' ending. No word as yet on a specific date though its expected to be early December (around a year after the film first opened)..." (full details)

JUST CRUEL.   >:(
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: EnnisDelMar on April 02, 2006, 07:30:51 pm
I knew they were yanking my *beep* :D
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: vkm91941 on April 02, 2006, 07:31:20 pm
Scroll down for the "full details" !

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news06/060401c.php (http://www.darkhorizons.com/news06/060401c.php)

"With the box-office success of "Brokeback" without question, Focus Features have revealed that whilst we will be getting the two-disc DVD theatrical edition next week, a three-disc unrated 'director's cut' has been planned for release later this year. The new version of the film runs seventeen minutes longer and is said to include more backstory for Williams & Hathaway's characters in the film, make the film's rather tame gay sex scenes much more explicit and accurate to the short story, and include a 'happier' ending. No word as yet on a specific date though its expected to be early December (around a year after the film first opened)..." (full details)

JUST CRUEL.   >:(


My first reaction was OMG is this TRUE!!!!  I want it and I am NOT a patient person...I want it NOW! LOL..then I was thinking I really HATE April 1st
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: rtprod on April 02, 2006, 07:32:39 pm
Hi Victoria,

Guess it's about the meanest April Fool's Day joke in history, wouldn't you agree?

rt
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: David on April 02, 2006, 07:33:59 pm
 :'(    Waaaaaaaaa!
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: rtprod on April 02, 2006, 07:34:09 pm
Brandon,

I totally fell for it -- you're smarter than me, I'll say that much.  I nearly made a fool of myself posting it as fact here before I read the "full details."  

rt
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: EnnisDelMar on April 02, 2006, 07:34:39 pm
Well I mean 3-disc unrated Director's Cut?? That doesn't sound very Ang Lee/Brokeback to me
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: rtprod on April 02, 2006, 07:36:01 pm
But as badly as we're all wanting to see the extra scenes, I think some of us are dying to believe....at least in the future possibility! 

rt
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: Surf on April 02, 2006, 07:39:54 pm
Scroll down for the "full details" !

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news06/060401c.php (http://www.darkhorizons.com/news06/060401c.php)

"With the box-office success of "Brokeback" without question, Focus Features have revealed that whilst we will be getting the two-disc DVD theatrical edition next week, a three-disc unrated 'director's cut' has been planned for release later this year. The new version of the film runs seventeen minutes longer and is said to include more backstory for Williams & Hathaway's characters in the film, make the film's rather tame gay sex scenes much more explicit and accurate to the short story, and include a 'happier' ending. No word as yet on a specific date though its expected to be early December (around a year after the film first opened)..." (full details)

JUST CRUEL.   >:(

I knew this was false right off the bat.  WE SAW the "directors cut" in the theatres.  Ang isn't going to change a thing.

P.S. I always enjoyed that comedy/horror film "April Fools Day", it's bad, but for me it was fun.
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: EnnisDelMar on April 02, 2006, 07:41:20 pm
And there shouldn't be any changes.
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: rtprod on April 02, 2006, 07:50:03 pm
Yes, of course we saw the "director's cut" so let's not all get "brokeback purist" here.  ;D   I may be the only one who would like to see additional scenes and deleted material here, but I'm guessing that just might not be the case. 
However, the term "director's cut" does come into play very often when films are released on DVD and for good reason--the theatrical run is complete and the movie publicity machine rules are no longer in play.  No director in the world, including Ang Lee, will ever say when his or her film is in release that it is not the director's cut that they are less than 100% happy with the theatrical cut.  Oliver Stone is a great example of this, who believes that film is a constantly evolving medium and continually revises cuts for DVDs, countries, demographics, etc. 

Brandon -- agree the film is perfect as it is, but can't say I wouldn't like to see more of that closet scene as we all witnessed on the Independent Spirit Awards and the numerous other pieces we all know exist, at least in a supplementary section. 

Surf -- I love April Fool's Day and watched it yesterday.  A great line in the film from Deborah Foreman (Valley Girl):  "On a clear day, you can see the Kennedys..."

rt




Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: dmmb_Mandy on April 02, 2006, 07:52:19 pm
You're not the only one, rt. I'd LOVE to see deleted scenes.

What a cruel, cruel joke...  :'(
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: littleguitar on April 02, 2006, 07:53:44 pm
LOL  ;D ok, they got me... when I read that line though about a happy ending I almost flipped! I mean, I would like it if Jack didn't die but I was still going to be really really upset if they changed the ending! This movie is just perfect the way it is.  I want deleted scenes but I want them on the special features...
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: Surf on April 02, 2006, 07:55:22 pm
Yes, of course we saw the "director's cut" so let's not all get "brokeback purist" here.  ;D   I may be the only one who would like to see additional scenes and deleted material here, but I'm guessing that just might not be the case. 
However, the term "director's cut" does come into play very often when films are released on DVD and for good reason--the theatrical run is complete and the movie publicity machine rules are no longer in play.  No director in the world, including Ang Lee, will ever say when his or her film is in release that it is not the director's cut that they are less than 100% happy with the theatrical cut.  Oliver Stone is a great example of this, who believes that film is a constantly evolving medium and continually revises cuts for DVDs, countries, demographics, etc. 

Brandon -- agree the film is perfect as it is, but can't say I wouldn't like to see more of that closet scene as we all witnessed on the Independent Spirit Awards and the numerous other pieces we all know exist, at least in a supplementary section. 

Surf -- I love April Fool's Day and watched it yesterday.  A great line in the film from Deborah Foreman (Valley Girl):  "On a clear day, you can see the Kennedys..."

rt


I have no problems seeing deleted material...as long as it's kept deleted.  What was shown in theatres was Ang's compplete and final vision and nothing less, he was under no pressure or influence when it came down to the final cut.  What Oliver Stone does is ridiculous.  It's like he can't make up his mind and it just undermines his work, like he has no integrity.
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: EnnisDelMar on April 02, 2006, 08:02:52 pm
Yes, of course we saw the "director's cut" so let's not all get "brokeback purist" here.  ;D   I may be the only one who would like to see additional scenes and deleted material here, but I'm guessing that just might not be the case. 
However, the term "director's cut" does come into play very often when films are released on DVD and for good reason--the theatrical run is complete and the movie publicity machine rules are no longer in play.  No director in the world, including Ang Lee, will ever say when his or her film is in release that it is not the director's cut that they are less than 100% happy with the theatrical cut.  Oliver Stone is a great example of this, who believes that film is a constantly evolving medium and continually revises cuts for DVDs, countries, demographics, etc. 

Brandon -- agree the film is perfect as it is, but can't say I wouldn't like to see more of that closet scene as we all witnessed on the Independent Spirit Awards and the numerous other pieces we all know exist, at least in a supplementary section. 

Surf -- I love April Fool's Day and watched it yesterday.  A great line in the film from Deborah Foreman (Valley Girl):  "On a clear day, you can see the Kennedys..."

rt


I have no problems seeing deleted material...as long as it's kept deleted.  What was shown in theatres was Ang's compplete and final vision and nothing less, he was under no pressure or influence when it came down to the final cut.  What Oliver Stone does is ridiculous.  It's like he can't make up his mind and it just undermines his work, like he has no integrity.

Exactly.
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: rtprod on April 02, 2006, 08:14:02 pm
Not really true or fair in every case regarding Oliver Stone. 

He hit a speed bump with Alexander and backpeddled for reasons that were highly questionable.  When the theatrical cut was released, he was very happy with it and said to the press that it was his cut.  Then, shortly after the audience and critical debacle, he admitted (or changed his mind, maybe?) that the theatrical cut was not what he had wanted for the film--hence my point.  However it's not correct to throw the baby out with the bathwater as the director's cut of Natural Born Killers adds meaning and is more powerful than the theatrical cut. 

Surf, you seem so surly lately--first the Ian McKellen insult thing and now on the defensive over Ang Lee's vision, which we all hail as masterful and divides no one on the board. 

Asking a friendly "what gives," anyway?

rt
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: Surf on April 02, 2006, 08:37:53 pm
Not really true or fair in every case regarding Oliver Stone. 

He hit a speed bump with Alexander and backpeddled for reasons that were highly questionable.  When the theatrical cut was released, he was very happy with it and said to the press that it was his cut.  Then, shortly after the audience and critical debacle, he admitted (or changed his mind, maybe?) that the theatrical cut was not what he had wanted for the film--hence my point.  However it's not correct to throw the baby out with the bathwater as the director's cut of Natural Born Killers adds meaning and is more powerful than the theatrical cut. 

Surf, you seem so surly lately--first the Ian McKellen insult thing and now on the defensive over Ang Lee's vision, which we all hail as masterful and divides no one on the board. 

Asking a friendly "what gives," anyway?

rt


Okay we need to go to private message again. But as far as Ang Lee, who's divided? I just get annoyed when people suggest that there is going to be some new "directors cut" or that Ang Lee "really may not be happy with his cut because he would never say while the film is in theatrical release"  Come on, that's utter hogwash, and that is why I get annoyed!!!! Listen to Ang in interviews, he says what he means and he means what he says.

Oliver Stone:  it's one thing to do a directors cut becuase you were limited by studio/business concerns the first time around.. It's another to re-edit over and over and say "my films are constantly evolving"  that's ridiculous.  To edit them for different demographics? For different countries?  Have one vision, man, that's all I ask.
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: Chanterais on April 02, 2006, 09:25:26 pm
Adriana punches her computer screen, then collapses in enraged sobs

I realize I may be taking this too hard, but I am so sad that this isn't true.  I feel considerably peeved that Focus is giving us some shoddy little DVD with practically no extras.  Not even a commentary!  I don't mean to belabour the point, but even Memoirs of a Geisha is issuing a Special Edition.  Surely it would be profitable to issue one for Brokeback?

I want my commentary!  I want my deleted scenes!  I'm about ready to start a petition asking Focus to issue us with the goodies we've been waiting so patiently for.  We deserve our extras!

Everyone watches in frank amazement as mild-mannered Adriana morphs into the Hulk(ess) and charges down the street, ripping up trees and small buildings along the way.  James Schamus cowers and quakes, and gives in immediately, begging for forgiveness.

Oh, if only.....
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: Surf on April 02, 2006, 09:30:34 pm
Adriana punches her computer screen, then collapses in enraged sobs

I realize I may be taking this too hard, but I am so sad that this isn't true.  I feel considerably peeved that Focus is giving us some shoddy little DVD with practically no extras.  Not even a commentary!  I don't mean to belabour the point, but even Memoirs of a Geisha is issuing a Special Edition.  Surely it would be profitable to issue one for Brokeback?

I want my commentary!  I want my deleted scenes!  I'm about ready to start a petition asking Focus to issue us with the goodies we've been waiting so patiently for.  We deserve our extras!

Everyone watches in frank amazement as mild-mannered Adriana morphs into the Hulk(ess) and charges down the street, ripping up trees and small buildings along the way.  James Schamus cowers and quakes, and gives in immediately, begging for forgiveness.

Oh, if only.....

Chanterais, have faith and be patient, I would bet my bottom dollar a deluxe special edition of this film is coming on DVD with multiple commentaries, deleted scenes, better behind the scenes stuff and maybe even (I would hope) a featurette about Gustavo composing and writing the score.   Either Focus/Universal will do this or hell maybe even Criterion, although I think Focus/Universal is more likely.  I will be one of the first to order it.
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: vkm91941 on April 02, 2006, 09:31:16 pm
Adriana punches her computer screen, then collapses in enraged sobs

I realize I may be taking this too hard, but I am so sad that this isn't true.  I feel considerably peeved that Focus is giving us some shoddy little DVD with practically no extras.  Not even a commentary!  I don't mean to belabour the point, but even Memoirs of a Geisha is issuing a Special Edition.  Surely it would be profitable to issue one for Brokeback?

I want my commentary!  I want my deleted scenes!  I'm about ready to start a petition asking Focus to issue us with the goodies we've been waiting so patiently for.  We deserve our extras!

Everyone watches in frank amazement as mild-mannered Adriana morphs into the Hulk(ess) and charges down the street, ripping up trees and small buildings along the way.  James Schamus cowers and quakes, and gives in immediately, begging for forgiveness.

ROFLOL at Hulk-essYou go Girl,  I'll happily sign that petition!
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: chefjudy on April 02, 2006, 09:41:53 pm
Here is my two cents on this whole dvd hoopla - isn't it possible that they are releasing a dvd now as the film leaves theatres 1.) to placate those who never felt comfortable seeing it in a theatre, 2.)  because that is what happens to almost every film after a theatre run (and sometimes they never have a theatre run), 3.) to cash in on the popularity of the movie while it is still fresh in people's minds.  Now I am just as much hoping like everyone else that there will be a Special Edition later with things like a director's commentary with or without Jake and Heath's input as well and/or Diana and Larry, even James Schamus, deleted scenes, etc, etc. So I guess we just have to wait to find out from Focus, but I bet that they will treat us to another edition later in the year especially for us diehard fans. I don't think there has really been enough time since the film came out to do all the necessary work in order to produce another version yet.;)
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: You-Bet on April 03, 2006, 12:20:54 am
Oh yes rt...remember that extended "shirt discovery" scene they showed at the Independent Spirit Awards?  Heath/Ennis was so emotional.  Would have loved to have seen that "deleted" scene on the DVD.

I have a feeling (fear) we won't see a "Special Edition" of BBM until HD-DVD (or Blue Ray) rolls out in the market.  Hope I'm wrong....just have a hunch Focus will wait till this new DVD format is up and going before releasing a Special Edition.  :-\ 
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: Surf on April 03, 2006, 12:23:36 am
Oh yes rt...remember that extended "shirt discovery" scene they showed at the Independent Spirit Awards?  Heath/Ennis was so emotional.  Would have loved to have seen that "deleted" scene on the DVD.

I have a feeling (fear) we won't see a "Special Edition" of BBM until HD-DVD (or Blue Ray) rolls out in the market.  Hope I'm wrong....just have a hunch Focus will wait till this new DVD format is up and going before releasing a Special Edition.  :-\ 

And please let it be Blu-Ray....HD-DVD is inferior.
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: j.U.d.E. on April 03, 2006, 04:59:43 am
Just bumping.. for later.

~ j U d E
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: You-Bet on April 03, 2006, 05:49:31 am
Surf, I agree.  The "bad" news is that Universal Studios (which owns Focus) is in the HD-DVD camp :-\

Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: Surf on April 03, 2006, 08:48:07 am
Surf, I agree.  The "bad" news is that Universal Studios (which owns Focus) is in the HD-DVD camp :-\

NOOOOOOO, are you sure they are exclusively committed to HD-DVD? Last I heard, most of the studios were either Blu-Ray or both...
Title: Re: This got me excited, and then...!
Post by: Nicole on April 03, 2006, 10:52:54 am
Sorry, I got to this thread a little late, but that is a terrible joke!  I am still holding out hope for a fully loaded dvd package in the future.  I agree - commentaries, deleted scenes...all of it - it is essential for us fans! 

And RT and Surf - I also LOVE the movie April Fool's Day.  I must have seen it 10 times when I was a kid.  And one of my best friends from law school and I originally bonded over the fact that she had the theatrical poster for it in her house - I don't know a lot of people who even know what that movie is!