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Title: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 02, 2006, 11:42:53 am
Ok, I hope Amy doesn't mind that I'm pimping her story, but I thought it was about time this fic had its own thread. This is one of the best fics I've ever read!

It's AU!AU but don't let that scare you away! There is some truly beautiful writing here and, though it's a different time and place, Amy does a great job of bringing what we fell in love with into her story!

First chapter starts here http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/3784.html (http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/3784.html)

There are 6 chapters so far...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on October 02, 2006, 11:55:44 am
Hi there - I'm really enjoying this one too!

It's very AU AU, but still fab.

Sexual tension or what!!??!!

Won't spoil it too much for other readers but most recent chapter *fans self*

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 02, 2006, 05:22:31 pm
I think it's one of the best fics I've ever read too! I am completely and totally in love with it. Amy is an A-MAZING writer. She truly blows me away.
The storyline is thrilling, so exciting. Ennis as the Special Agent! and Jack as the Criminal Badboy! (of course he's not really bad at all - now how can our sweet Jack ever be bad, huh?!)
Oooohhhh yeah, Karen, the sexual tension was killing me!! Whooooo! I felt like I was going to explode after chapter 5 and now chapter 6.........WOW!.....just wow. SO beautiful and hot and sweet and wonderful  :) I totally adore her Jack and Ennis.

This story has sucked me in completely and just won't let go. I think it's brilliant  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 02, 2006, 06:42:28 pm
right there with both of you about the sexual tension! Damn! I won't say too much because I don't want to spoil anything, but I just have to say, the tatoo scene?? dear lord! ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 02, 2006, 06:55:21 pm
right there with both of you about the sexual tension! Damn! I won't say too much because I don't want to spoil anything, but I just have to say, the tatoo scene?? dear lord! ;D
Whoowhee YES Mandy!!! Don't even go there!  ;D
I can't even remeber how many times I've re-read that part! *swoons*

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 02, 2006, 07:04:06 pm
LOL, you and me both! And I'm planning on re reading the entire thing tonight too!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 02, 2006, 09:03:31 pm
Hi, guys!  Just wanted to say how flattered I am that you started a thread for Shades.  You know, I almost didn't write this story b/c I was worried it was too AU!AU and that people would freak out that Jack is a drug dealer.  But I'm so glad I went ahead and started writing because Shades has been such fun and so interesting to write.  I'm thrilled you all like it so far and I'll do my best not to let you down!   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 02, 2006, 10:37:52 pm
Hey Amy! I'm glad that it's cool I started this thread... I wasn't sure if you wanted one because you hadn't done it yourself, but I love your story and wanted more people to read it! I for one think you definitely made the right decision with this story  ;D (by the way, I post under "minchout" on LJ)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 03, 2006, 09:49:20 am
Amy, hi! I usually do not read any "Extreme AU" fanfictions (I mean the stories where Ennis and Jack are completely different persons) because I just can't deal with them most of the time, I always like the stories to be as close to Ennis and Jack's real life, but since I absolutely loved If I asked, I was willing to give Shades of Grey a try and I love it, you can really pull this AU thing off like nobody else. You have such amazing writing skills, your writing is absolutely captivating and even though it's really AU, you are still holding on to their characters as in the movie/book, which is pretty great! Good luck with the rest of the story!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: louisev on October 03, 2006, 03:21:19 pm
I will give this story a real thumbs-up too.  Those of you who know me know that I don't do a lot of reading (mainly because I am always typity type typing), and I also don't enjoy a lot of non Wyoming, non-cowboy BBM stories.  However, I do like police stories (duh, can you tell?) and this one I am definitely enjoying greatly, gritty, believable, and with a tension and excitement that one gets from a story that has danger, excitement, and narrow brushes with death, as well as crackling sexual chemistry!  I do love Law Enforcement!Ennis, as I call him!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: katecaton on October 03, 2006, 05:03:12 pm
I quite agree. I had to read this when I knew it was by midwestgirl as her last story "If I asked" was so fantastic. I loved what she did with the reunion. Also agree about the last chapter of this one, pheweee!!!
 




Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on October 06, 2006, 12:46:30 pm
I usually do not read any "Extreme AU" fanfictions (I mean the stories where Ennis and Jack are completely different persons) because I just can't deal with them most of the time, I always like the stories to be as close to Ennis and Jack's real life, but since I absolutely loved If I asked, I was willing to give Shades of Grey a try...

You speak for me. If it wasn't for the fact that IIA continues to be my favourite BBM fic of all time, I doubt that I'd have started reading Shades, and even more doubt that I'd have liked the AUAU premise and the resulting characters. Ennis discussing his post Sept. 11th FBI work??   :-\

As it is though, I am completely hooked. Amy's writing, her story plotting and development, her unique style, her characterization, her pretty-much-everything-fic-related appeal to me so much I can hardly explain it in writing. Noone describes the developing bond, the overwhelming attraction and ditto tension between Jack and Ennis better IMO - it's as if its swirling thick in the air all around me as I read.

 :P 8) :P


Can't wait to read the rest of the story! Amy, you're a star!  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 06, 2006, 11:22:33 pm
Saw this pic on the Jake Jake Jake thread over at Chez Tremblay and thought it was a good image for the Jack in this story (minus the dog, as there is no dog in the story  ;) )

(http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1113.0;attach=6146;image)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 06, 2006, 11:27:36 pm
And some more that me and June liked...

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i285/Lucise/Jake/d5918563-1.jpg)

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i285/Lucise/Jake/4996fbdb.jpg)

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i285/Lucise/Jake/d5918563.jpg)

Sorry, I'm obsessed  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 07, 2006, 03:03:54 am
Nice pictures to wake up to, thank you!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 07, 2006, 09:26:28 am
Hey, guys!  I know how hard it can be to try an AU!AU and I'm thankful you all were willing to take the trip with me.  I'll try not to let you down!  And thanks for all the pictures.  June had shown me the ones she found, but I have to admit, I see Jack as older than that in my head.  He looks so young in those pictures.  Here's how I picture him as I'm writing:

(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m186/aliceathome/GYLLY_BIKE.gif)

I will post Chapter Seven either today or tomorrow!  Amy
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 07, 2006, 09:32:46 am
Oooh that's a good one too! I definitely agree he's too young in those other pics, I just like the style of them  ;D

I look foreward to the next chapter!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 07, 2006, 01:01:25 pm
Saw this pic on the Jake Jake Jake thread over at Chez Tremblay and thought it was a good image for the Jack in this story (minus the dog, as there is no dog in the story  ;) )

(http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1113.0;attach=6146;image)
OH Mandy, I think I loooove you! LOL!  ;D

This one is soooooooooooooooooo gorgeous too!!! *nearly faints*

And thanks for putting the other ones up again. I know he looks young in them but he looks so utterly adorable....*SIGH* I got the black and white one as an avatar  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 07, 2006, 01:11:58 pm
Hey, guys!  I know how hard it can be to try an AU!AU and I'm thankful you all were willing to take the trip with me.  I'll try not to let you down!  And thanks for all the pictures.  June had shown me the ones she found, but I have to admit, I see Jack as older than that in my head.  He looks so young in those pictures.  Here's how I picture him as I'm writing:

(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m186/aliceathome/GYLLY_BIKE.gif)

I will post Chapter Seven either today or tomorrow!  Amy
Hi Amy! I'll just quote this with the pic again, that way we get to see it twice  ;D This one is hotter than hell too! ;D
Thanks for stopping by on BM now and then, it's really lovely   :-*  How's BW, btw?? Heh heh  :P

Today or tomorrow?!! Whoooooooooooo weeeeeeeeeee! I can hardly wait!! OMG - there are soo many good stories out there atm, it's just wonderful, that after all this time, it's still going strong. I love it  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 07, 2006, 01:38:51 pm
Hey, June.  BW is just fine.  I've been keeping him warm for ya!  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 07, 2006, 01:43:47 pm
Hey, June.  BW is just fine.  I've been keeping him warm for ya!  ;)
Oooooh, you have?? Well! I'm quite speechless! You're willing to share now??  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 07, 2006, 06:02:53 pm
Just wanted to let you all know Chapter Seven is up at http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com   Thanks!   :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 07, 2006, 06:47:51 pm
OH Mandy, I think I loooove you! LOL!  ;D

This one is soooooooooooooooooo gorgeous too!!! *nearly faints*

And thanks for putting the other ones up again. I know he looks young in them but he looks so utterly adorable....*SIGH* I got the black and white one as an avatar  ;D

LOL and I love you too! I saw this one and almost passed out... YUM!  ::)

I think I might have to use one of those as an avatar too...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: louisev on October 07, 2006, 07:09:56 pm
Very nice chapter, MG... the reserve they both pulled back to, keeping the focus on Ennis's need to stay on task, and the struggle inside him... deliberate and carefully built, and the tenderness they feel for each other in their own private struggles as they pretend they are not falling in love.  A real joy to read.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 08, 2006, 09:12:38 am
LOL and I love you too! I saw this one and almost passed out... YUM!  ::)

I think I might have to use one of those as an avatar too...
Saw the avatar Mandy! It's gorgeous....*SIGH*  ;D

OH, didn't you just LOVE the last chapter? I loved how sweet Ennis was during Jack's nightmare, loved how all he wanted to do was go home to Jack, loved how the thought of Dante (??) made him feel phsyically ill, loved how Jack touched Ennis's bruised knuckles, hated the image of Jack in prison :( and I'm dying for Ennis to make that first move!

I do wonder how they'll end up together....Maybe they'll 'stage' both their deaths and that way be able to go off and have a life together? Because if they go into a witness protection programme together I think they'll never be free of Hinestroza and his mugs, even though they might get busted because of Jack's information. Guys like that just don't forget and won't give up, even though it might take them years to find Jack and Ennis. And even if Hinestroza is in jail, guys like that always manage to continue to run their operation from jail. But if Jack and Ennis's death is real and believeble they just might have a good shot at a happy life together. That's what I'm hoping for, hope they go off to some remote part of Canada together....I'd love that  :) That will probably never happen though....just wishful thinking on my part  :)
Hell, I suck at speculating anyway! So none of this will probably happen  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 08, 2006, 09:40:23 am
I'm so glad you liked the chapter, June.  You know, this chapter I've gotten a lot of comments on my LJ with people doubting that SoG Jack and Ennis can find a happy ending and predicting the story is going to end badly.  Oh man!  It's starting to freak me out!  I'm still sticking by my comment that I love J/E and want only the best for them.  It's not going to be easy, but I think they can get there!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: magicmountain on October 08, 2006, 09:42:54 am
Hi - thought I would lob here to say how much I am enjoying Shades of Grey. It intrigues me how these two personalities shine through in a different life setting. That aura that surrounded them in BBM just powers along with them!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 08, 2006, 09:49:05 am
_____________________-SPOILER-______________________________________


This was such a great chapter, my god, the dialogue is so real:

“What can we talk about after that?” Ennis asked, his own voice rough and strained. “The weather? Football? What to have for breakfast?”

Jack smiled. “All right. Maybe we don’t need to talk tonight. Let’s just drink.” He passed the bottle to Ennis, his eye snagged by the blood smeared across Ennis’s fingers.

“Christ, Ennis, what happened to your hand?” Jack sat forward, trying to get a better look in the weak, milky white moonlight. He reached out, his finger passing gently over Ennis’s bruised and swollen knuckles. He wished things between them were different, so he could hold Ennis’s hand, use his mouth to kiss away the pain.

Ennis didn’t answer, just tipped his head back and slugged down a throat full of whiskey. Jack could see the tell-tale scratches on Ennis’s knuckles, knew you didn’t get abrasions like that from hitting a person. Ennis’s fist had gotten up close and personal with something hard and inanimate, Ennis looking to hurt himself, not someone else.

Jack slouched back in his seat with a sigh. “Are we ever going to talk about what happened the other night?” he asked quietly. “Or are we going to keep talking around that kiss?”


I love what you're doing with this story!

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 08, 2006, 10:10:29 am
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OH, didn't you just LOVE the last chapter?

Yes!! A huge yes, it was great. I had fogotten the Dante moment... it's so real the way Ennis has all of these feelings about Jack's place in his life but still won't admit what those feelings mean.

Spoiler...



I can't remember the exact quote, but It was something like "Jack's life was Ennis' domain..." so so perfect!


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I'm so glad you liked the chapter, June.  You know, this chapter I've gotten a lot of comments on my LJ with people doubting that SoG Jack and Ennis can find a happy ending and predicting the story is going to end badly.  Oh man!  It's starting to freak me out!  I'm still sticking by my comment that I love J/E and want only the best for them.  It's not going to be easy, but I think they can get there!

Don't worry Amy! I know you can do it! But I'll tell you what, you could do anything you want with this story. I'm hooked. Of course I want a perfect, happy ending, and I'm sure you can do it, but if you give me something else with this one, I don't think I'd complain!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 08, 2006, 10:11:46 am
I'm so glad you liked the chapter, June.  You know, this chapter I've gotten a lot of comments on my LJ with people doubting that SoG Jack and Ennis can find a happy ending and predicting the story is going to end badly.  Oh man!  It's starting to freak me out!  I'm still sticking by my comment that I love J/E and want only the best for them.  It's not going to be easy, but I think they can get there!
I know how much you love Jack and Ennis and I don't doubt for a second that it will have a good ending! What do you think of my theory?? Does it make any sense?? Is it even close to what might happen??  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 08, 2006, 01:54:18 pm
Well, I wouldn't say it's necessarily going to be a "perfect" ending, as in fairytale perfect.  And June, you don't really want me to answer your questions about the ending, do you?   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 08, 2006, 03:10:29 pm
Well, I wouldn't say it's necessarily going to be a "perfect" ending, as in fairytale perfect.  And June, you don't really want me to answer your questions about the ending, do you?   ;)
Well, just a tiny hint about what I've been saying....  ;D Am I even a tiny bit close??
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 08, 2006, 03:46:43 pm
Nope, you're not too close....  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: frannie on October 08, 2006, 03:46:49 pm
I'm new here.  But I have to ask.

They are going to be together in the end, right?

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 08, 2006, 03:49:18 pm
I'm new here.  But I have to ask.

They are going to be together in the end, right?

Otherwise, what's the point of all this angst about them getting together now?

At the risk of revealing too much, yes, they are going to have a happy ending.  Don't worry; I wouldn't be so cruel as to put you all through the angst in the story and then have it end badly.  When I said it won't be a "perfect" ending, I just meant in the fairytale sense.  RL always has more complications than that.  But never fear, it will end well. 
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: frannie on October 08, 2006, 03:52:58 pm
Thank God for that.  I wasn't worried about the ending at all until I read this thread.   ::)

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: frannie on October 08, 2006, 03:59:57 pm
And thank you for putting my mind at rest!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 08, 2006, 04:43:07 pm
Nope, you're not too close....  ;)
Amy! What does that mean?? That I'm waaaaaaay off base here?  ???
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 08, 2006, 04:48:40 pm
Thank God for that.  I wasn't worried about the ending at all until I read this thread.   ::)


Hi Frannie  :)

I'm sorry if I said something that got you all worried. I was just speculating and like I said I usually get it all wrong anyway!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: frannie on October 08, 2006, 04:50:30 pm
Saw this pic on the Jake Jake Jake thread over at Chez Tremblay and thought it was a good image for the Jack in this story (minus the dog, as there is no dog in the story  ;) )

(http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1113.0;attach=6146;image)

The expression on Jake's face here reminds me of Jack and his cocky look in SOG, and I think it is my preferred picture so far.   (sans chien)

With the hot panty-melting motorbike one a close second...

Why is Ennis even trying to resist?   ???  Foolish man.   ::)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 08, 2006, 04:51:27 pm
Amy! What does that mean?? That I'm waaaaaaay off base here?  ???

All I'm going to say is that they are not going to be faking their deaths.  Now I'm shutting up before you get me to reveal the whole damn story!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 08, 2006, 05:05:10 pm
All I'm going to say is that they are not going to be faking their deaths.  Now I'm shutting up before you get me to reveal the whole damn story!
*grin*
Okay, there goes my theory! LOL I SO suck at speculating!  ::)  Hmmmm, I really do wonder how they'll get away from Hinestroza and his mob now.....I'll just have to patiently wait and see. Aaargh! I wanna know!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on October 08, 2006, 06:46:05 pm
Really good and riveting stories  will   have you speculating, won't they?  :)

(My speculations have gone in somewhat another direction: I'm figuring the whole tragic Ortiz story and Jack's role in it (and what happened with him nearly bleeding to death back then) will soon come out, based on Ennis's not letting that lead go but continuing to follow up and digging for more. The painful emotions surrounding that revelation will lead to further J&E intimacy and closeness and the story finally earning its NC-17 rating..... Then of course Hinestroza/Madrigal&co.  haven't been idle. They find our heros by means of tracking Ennis (Lureen pointed them in his direction, perhaps?) and some really bigtime angsty events follow for J&E during which they realize their love for one another is real and true and not going away..... and where it's eventually the bad guys who end up dead. Which makes the whole investigation redundant and which ends the threat to Jack's life too - and makes that happy ending possible. )

 ::) at self.


No, I'm certainly not looking to have anything of this confirmed or denied. Usually my guesses are way off base and entirely wide of the mark and I'm certain that's so, this time around as well.


I must say though that SoG has really brought out the "ambivalent me":  ;)

- I'd like to read the entire story now, right away, all at once - and I'd like for it to go on and on and ON....
- I'm anxious for J&Eto hurry up and develop their relationship further into NC-17dom, - but all the tension and slow, sloooow buildup is so well written, it just has be be savoured and experienced in its own right, at length....
- I usually really don't appreciate AUAUs where the protagonists might just as well have been called Bill and Joe - but I love Jack and Ennis being none others than Jack and Ennis in this one...


All this just another way of saying: I'm very much looking forward to more, Amy!  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 08, 2006, 07:22:38 pm
I enjoyed reading your comment  :)

 I definitely agree that the whole Ortiz story will bring them closer together, which of course everybody is looking forward to  ;) although I really do love this slow build-up to it.
But don't you think all of them ending up dead like that is a bit too easy? I mean, in a mob family like that, it's usually not one, two or three guys and they never forget betrayal. But I'm probably getting carried away and reading way too much into everything, as usual  ::)

And, YES! I don't want SOG to ever stop either.......

 :)

Oh, I just found out it's not a mob/mafia family but a Columbian drugkartel. I completely forgot about that  ::) But I do think that payback from a drugkartel can be just as dangerous as from a mafia family......I'm thinking of 'Scarface'  But maybe I should just quit thinking so much!! LOL  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 08, 2006, 07:55:03 pm
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I'd like to read the entire story now, right away, all at once - and I'd like for it to go on and on and ON....

You and me both!!!

And I agree, June, that's too easy for them to end up all dead... but I don't have any theories that are better, I've been so caught up in the story I haven't even thought about it. I do keep speculating about Jack's past though, I find it endlessly intriguing!


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The expression on Jake's face here reminds me of Jack and his cocky look in SOG

Yeah me too! That's why I picked that one  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 09, 2006, 06:43:02 am
Oooh no, I don't want to speculate, it's just nice to know that there is going to be a happy ending, one way or another!!! ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: katecaton on October 09, 2006, 07:17:54 am
The expression on Jake's face here reminds me of Jack and his cocky look in SOG, and I think it is my preferred picture so far.   (sans chien)

With the hot panty-melting motorbike one a close second...

Why is Ennis even trying to resist?   ???  Foolish man.   ::)
Panty-melting motorbike one? I'm sorry but you have to post it!!!! :o
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 09, 2006, 07:27:45 am
Panty-melting motorbike one? I'm sorry but you have to post it!!!! :o

Page 2 of this very fine thread...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: frannie on October 09, 2006, 08:03:40 am
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m186/aliceathome/GYLLY_BIKE.gif)


"Panty-melting motorbike one"

 ;D


I can imagine SOG!Ennis ripping off Jack's top and homing in for a long passionate kiss before getting rid of the pants and....

...well, you get the picture.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: katecaton on October 09, 2006, 08:33:36 am
Whew, that one's gone in my photo collection :o
Thanks ladies!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: katecaton on October 09, 2006, 08:36:19 am
PS this is how I imagine he looked when he was having his stitches out. No wonder Ennis couldn't look away :P
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/katecaton/thumb_OUT013518.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on October 09, 2006, 09:55:27 am
My word Kate - that certainly brightened up my lunchtime! I'm surprised that Ennis had a steady enough hand to remove the stitches if that was the sight that he had to deal with.

I have lots of ideas about where this story might be heading, but I won't bore everyone with my flights of fantasy.

Needless to say I'm breathlessly awaiting the next chapter.

Karen

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 09, 2006, 10:10:17 am
PS this is how I imagine he looked when he was having his stitches out. No wonder Ennis couldn't look away :P
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/katecaton/thumb_OUT013518.jpg)

LOL that's the exact picture that came to my mind too... can you imagine being that close to that? I think I would have passed out. That's such a beautiful scened too...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 09, 2006, 11:16:02 am
can you imagine being that close to that? I think I would have passed out.
Me too......

I think I might pass out when they finally get down to it.....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 09, 2006, 11:21:10 am

I have lots of ideas about where this story might be heading, but I won't bore everyone with my flights of fantasy.

I'd love to hear them Karen, you certainly wont be boring me!  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on October 09, 2006, 11:36:09 am
I'd love to hear them Karen, you certainly wont be boring me!  :)

Ahhh June…. You’re too kind.

Well, I kind of have this fantasy storyline running through my mind which involves the location of Jack and Ennis being discovered. They have to go on the run, relying on both Ennis’s FBI training and Jack street awareness to keep them alive.

Seeing as Ennis has been protecting Jack so far, Jack will have an opportunity to save Ennis’s life (when it would be easier for Jack to desert him). Also have in my head a kind of Terminator style motel scene – you know, stolen love on the run, when they finally get their hands on each other (won’t go into detail on that one  ;)).

Have no clue how it will end though.

Of course, thse are just the meanderings of my fevered mind. I have no doubt that Midwest-Girl will entertain us with something far superior.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 09, 2006, 12:14:55 pm
*sigh*

I just can't keep away from SOG-spec!!  So here I am again.  (I'm Helen for anyone who doesn't know me!)

What I think is:

Ennis and Jack will go on the run - like you said, Karen.  I just don't see how else they will leave the apartment.  They are supposed to be holed up there for weeks on end, but obviously the action has to move forward before that because I think even Amy might struggle to hold our attention through the requisite number of chapters needed.

There is no way Ennis can keep his job.  At the very beginning he was having doubts about his abilities.  He was starting to empathise with the people he was supposed to be using.  So, even without Jack he was on his way out.  And it won't be long before he will make a choice that benefits Jack, and goes against his work.  In this last chapter he just about managed to phone in with the Ortiz info, but it was a struggle and he really had to focus his mind to do it.    He knows he can't keep his job.  Which is frightning for him because what else is there in his life?

So, the two of them become fugitives.  And make their getaway on that bike that has featured heavily in this thread!  (YUM!)

I think they will "do the deed" before they leave the apartment.  What seals that is what Ennis learns about the whole Ortiz thing.  Although, I am wondering how Jack will feel about Ennis using what happened in a nightmare.  Whatever - he'll forgive Ennis, because he understands Ennis's conflict.

I haven't thought anything about the ending other than wondering about witness protection and trying to think of their new names if that is what happens.  Oh, and thinking they will end up on a ranch because it's what Ennis always wanted to do anyway. 

Hinestroza operates east of the Mississippi so will they be safe in the west?


As for ortiz, my current guess (LOL) is that Jack suggests ortiz to Hinestroza, and he is recruited.  But he doesn't turn out to be the best and has to be got rid of.  Of course, there's only one way.  And this is the "ringside seat" Jack talks about in a previous chapter.  He has to watch as Madrigal tortures and kills Ortiz.    He tries to save him, hence the wound to his thigh.  And of course blames himself for the whole thing.

That's my 2p!

Helen :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: MaineWriter on October 09, 2006, 12:24:52 pm
*sigh*
  (I'm Helen for anyone who doesn't know me!)


Welcome back, Helen! We've missed you!

Leslie
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 09, 2006, 12:25:12 pm
Do you all have any idea how much you're killing me with this speculation?!?!   :o
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: MaineWriter on October 09, 2006, 12:28:34 pm
Do you all have any idea how much you're killing me with this speculation?!?!   :o

It's good for an author's soul, don't you think, Amy?

L
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 09, 2006, 12:30:43 pm
It's good for an author's soul, don't you think, Amy?

L

Oh god, I guess.  But I probably shouldn't even come on here and read the speculation....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 09, 2006, 12:33:09 pm
Do you all have any idea how much you're killing me with this speculation?!?!   :o

You deserve it!!  LOL

Do you know how much you're killing US with the UST?!!!

I seriously thought I was going to pass out last night thinking about it.  I'd got as far as Ennis telling Jack, he knew about ortiz, which is the crossing point for him between his duty towards his work and his feelings for jack.  They talk about it and Ennis starts to be really tender with jack.  He touches jack's face, then kisses him.  Then it gets a little hot and steamy and he takes off Jack's jumper.  They are still kissing (kissing is HAWT!)....

...and then I felt really dizzy, so had to stop and open a window.

I need paramedics and a water trough on standby for SOG...

Hx
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 09, 2006, 12:34:24 pm
Welcome back, Helen! We've missed you!

Leslie

Thanks leslie - I have tried to stay away, but SOG just has me bigtime, and I couldn't resist!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 09, 2006, 12:41:59 pm
You deserve it!!  LOL

Do you know how much you're killing US with the UST?!!!

I seriously thought I was going to pass out last night thinking about it.  I'd got as far as Ennis telling Jack, he knew about ortiz, which is the crossing point for him between his duty towards his work and his feelings for jack.  They talk about it and Ennis starts to be really tender with jack.  He touches jack's face, then kisses him.  Then it gets a little hot and steamy and he takes off Jack's jumper.  They are still kissing (kissing is HAWT!)....

...and then I felt really dizzy, so had to stop and open a window.

I need paramedics and a water trough on standby for SOG...

Hx

SEE?!?!  This is what I mean about the speculation killing me.   God...the pressure!  LOL. But seriously, I get all freaked out b/c what if what I have planned isn't anything like that?  Or what if it's exactly like that?  Either way...Guh...I'm so screwed....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 09, 2006, 12:55:20 pm
SEE?!?!  This is what I mean about the speculation killing me.   God...the pressure!  LOL. But seriously, I get all freaked out b/c what if what I have planned isn't anything like that?  Or what if it's exactly like that?  Either way...Guh...I'm so screwed....
Haha Amy! NO! you're not screwed, LOL

Whatever you come up with will be brilliant. Look how all of us were anticipating that first kiss, and how TOTALLY HOT was that?!!!
 :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 09, 2006, 01:30:48 pm
Ahhh June…. You’re too kind.

Well, I kind of have this fantasy storyline running through my mind which involves the location of Jack and Ennis being discovered. They have to go on the run, relying on both Ennis’s FBI training and Jack street awareness to keep them alive.

Seeing as Ennis has been protecting Jack so far, Jack will have an opportunity to save Ennis’s life (when it would be easier for Jack to desert him). Also have in my head a kind of Terminator style motel scene – you know, stolen love on the run, when they finally get their hands on each other (won’t go into detail on that one  ;)).

Have no clue how it will end though.

Of course, thse are just the meanderings of my fevered mind. I have no doubt that Midwest-Girl will entertain us with something far superior.

Karen

First of all - details are always good, Karen  :P

Yep, the going on the run part sounds good to me and Jack saving Ennis's life *SIGH* that sounds like Heaven to me.....

Is it nearly Sunday yet?? Or maybe Amy will update on Thursday?? *crosses fingers*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 09, 2006, 01:38:05 pm

As for ortiz, my current guess (LOL) is that Jack suggests ortiz to Hinestroza, and he is recruited.  But he doesn't turn out to be the best and has to be got rid of.  Of course, there's only one way.  And this is the "ringside seat" Jack talks about in a previous chapter.  He has to watch as Madrigal tortures and kills Ortiz.    He tries to save him, hence the wound to his thigh.  And of course blames himself for the whole thing.

That's my 2p!

Helen :)
I could go along with this H - I believe Madrigal has done something really really awful so that kind of makes sense he would make Jack watch while he tortured and killed Ortiz.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 09, 2006, 01:38:30 pm
SEE?!?!  This is what I mean about the speculation killing me.   God...the pressure!  LOL. But seriously, I get all freaked out b/c what if what I have planned isn't anything like that?  Or what if it's exactly like that?  Either way...Guh...I'm so screwed....

I so remember Jenna going through the same with the speculation surrounding SN!  LOL

For me, this is the way it works.  I just try and second guess what's going to happen, but I'm in no way disappointed or sad when it doesn't happen the way i have thought.  If it does (which it never has so far, so peeps don't look to me for inspiration here!  LOL  ;D) then yee-haw.  If it doesn't, like my first spec about Ortiz on your journal, Amy, I just dismiss what I got wrong and try again.

I know it'll be good - I know it'll be great. It's just great fun for me to try and think up plausible scenarios.  I don't care if they're wrong.  I just enjoy the spec and the fun and the laughs surrounding it.

Which is why I've had to rejoin BM and join in with everyone!  LOL

So, from my POV, you have no reason to worry if things are way off the mark.  It's just a bit of a laugh :)

H xx

(If I get something right, OTHO, then I think we all have cause for worry!! :D )
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 09, 2006, 01:50:13 pm
Amy - Something that is intriguing me - why do you use the British spelling of 'grey' and not the American?

:)

Hx
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 09, 2006, 02:26:06 pm
Amy - Something that is intriguing me - why do you use the British spelling of 'grey' and not the American?

:)

Hx

You're not the first person to ask me that, Helen. And there's no really exciting answer.  I just like it better spelled with an "e."   :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 09, 2006, 02:27:34 pm
You're not the first person to ask me that, Helen. And there's no really exciting answer.  I just like it better spelled with an "e."   :)

Well, it is the proper way, of course....

 :P ;D

LOL
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 09, 2006, 03:10:38 pm
Amy - is there a pic around for the SOG Ennis?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 09, 2006, 03:39:27 pm
Amy - is there a pic around for the SOG Ennis?

No.  I found one where I liked his face, but there's no body to go with it.  Let me see if I can find it again...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on October 09, 2006, 03:41:43 pm
SEE?!?!  This is what I mean about the speculation killing me.   God...the pressure!  LOL. But seriously, I get all freaked out b/c what if what I have planned isn't anything like that?  Or what if it's exactly like that?  Either way...Guh...I'm so screwed....

You're so not screwed! Just the opposite.   :) You're just giving us a double gift: This great fic (which of course should remain all your own till the end no matter what us readers may be demanding/hoping/speculating/begging/wishing/dreaming for to happen.......) and in addition the opportunity and inspiration to flex our own imaginations through speculating and guessing at the upcoming events.   :)

I'll go with the flow of what the fic may bring, whether it's close to what I've speculated or not anything like it at all. Your writing style and your Jack/Ennis characterization (and your incredibly erotic sex scenes) all ensure that. The only thing I'm a tad bit worried about is if the Ortiz death story is too sadistic and crual - I've got an uncommonly low threshold for freaking out over such descriptions and (even worse) images.... That's the reason why I've seen very few mob movies and can't relate SoG to very many previous stories in this genre.

I've got the feeling that no matter what, there *has* to be a showdown between Jack and Ennis and the FBI on the one side and the Hinestroza crowd/Madrigal on the other. Anything else would be pretty anticlimactic. And when that happens, I'm speculating that whatever happened to Ortiz, this time around Jack will have the opportunity to redeem himself in his own eyes - by not going along with whatever his involvement in the Ortiz story was..... just this time around, Ennis will be "Ortiz". If I happen to be right in this  -  oh, the angst!  :o

I suppose everyone here is right, though, that a couple of dead bad guys will not mean J&E can live happily ever after out in the clear light of day as if nothing happened. They'd still be fair game for whoever takes up Hinestroza's heritage. So.....if the two of them have to live undercover, what say they end up as ranchhands in Wyoming?  ;D Poetic justice in a way.



Time will show. Good luck with your writing, Amy! I'lll be waiting more or less patiently, speculating a lot more and cheering you on all the way!  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 09, 2006, 03:42:47 pm
 I like this pic for Ennis's face, but can't find a good picture of him in an FBI suit.


(http://www.kfilmu.net/obrazky/herci/heath-ledger.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 09, 2006, 03:52:48 pm
Phoar!(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/smileys/50.gif)

I like that Ennis.  My god, Jack must have nerves of steel to keep his distance until Ennis is ready.  (http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/smileys/25.gif)

I think I'll put my defribulator order in now...


Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 09, 2006, 03:57:41 pm
I like this pic for Ennis's face, but can't find a good picture of him in an FBI suit.


(http://www.kfilmu.net/obrazky/herci/heath-ledger.jpg)
Heh heh I dont think you'll ever find a pic of him in an FBI suit! You mean just a regular 'work' suit? That's gonna be tough!  :D

I LOVE this pic, this is exactly how I imagine SOG's Ennis to be. He looks totally gorgeous in this pic, love his hair, the expression on his face, the lovely brown eyes, the black shirt. Just everything.

Thanks Amy  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 09, 2006, 04:00:42 pm
Phoar!(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/smileys/50.gif)

I like that Ennis.  My god, Jack must have nerves of steel to keep his distance until Ennis is ready.  (http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/smileys/25.gif)

I think I'll put my defribulator order in now...



LOL!

Haven't seen those smilies of yours for a loooong time H!

 ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 09, 2006, 04:04:39 pm
Haven't seen those smilies of yours for a loooong time H!

Won't be long till I get to use the...um...more interesting ones....  (http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/smileys/10.gif)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 09, 2006, 04:46:00 pm
Won't be long till I get to use the...um...more interesting ones....  (http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/smileys/10.gif)
Heh heh

 ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 09, 2006, 04:48:08 pm
Another thing i was thinking about Amy .....

Will we read more about Jack's relationship with Dante? I thought that was quite interesting too .....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 09, 2006, 06:06:54 pm
Another thing i was thinking about Amy .....

Will we read more about Jack's relationship with Dante? I thought that was quite interesting too .....

Me too... I'm intrigued, cell mates? boyfriend? just someone to pass those lonely nights in prison with? hmmm...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 09, 2006, 06:42:50 pm
Okay, that's a question I can answer...yes, you'll learn more about the relationship between Dane (not Dante, but that's a mistake a lot of people make, maybe I should have just named him Dante...lol) and Jack pretty shortly. 
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on October 09, 2006, 06:46:18 pm
Oooo... you're teasing us.

Do you work to a set publishing schedule (i.e. once a week) or do you just post when you've completed a chapter?

You really have us all hanging on here. I'm re-reading If I Asked as a between post fix.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 09, 2006, 07:06:05 pm
I don't have a set publishing schedule.  But barring out of town trips or illness, I try to post every 5 to 7 days.  So I'm hoping to post Chapter Eight on Friday, but I'll let you know for sure as we get closer to the end of the week.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 09, 2006, 08:11:59 pm
Here's something I've been thinking about....condoms.  The reason it's been on my mind is because I recently had a discussion with two MW readers about condom use.

So, either they get carried away and forget to use them.

Or they don't do penetration the first time, allowing Ennis to nip out to the nearest 7-11 between bouts of gymnastic endeavour.

Or they do.  And the question is...when and where do they get the prophylactics from?  Did Jack get a three-pack from Dane along with the Sig?  Has Ennis got a couple in his wallet "just in case" (just in case what exactly?)

H x
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 09, 2006, 08:16:49 pm
OMG, Helen!!  Jesus Christ.  Stop speculating or there are going to be no surprises left in this fucking fic!   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 09, 2006, 08:31:46 pm
OMG, Helen!!  Jesus Christ.  Stop speculating or there are going to be no surprises left in this fucking fic!   ;)

*feels suitably chastised*

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/smileys/15.gif)




:P

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 09, 2006, 08:34:29 pm
*feels suitably chastised*

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/smileys/15.gif)




:P



You know I'm teasing you (don't you?!).   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 09, 2006, 08:37:53 pm
You know I'm teasing you (don't you?!).   ;)

Of course!   ;D


Now then....flavoured or plain?   :)

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 09, 2006, 09:06:40 pm
Of course!   ;D


Now then....flavoured or plain?   :)



Hardy har har...but don't you think if Jack pulled out the flavored ones Ennis would head for the fucking hills?!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 10, 2006, 03:06:39 am
Okay, that's a question I can answer...yes, you'll learn more about the relationship between Dane (not Dante, but that's a mistake a lot of people make, maybe I should have just named him Dante...lol) and Jack pretty shortly. 

Sorry...it's good to know I'm not the only dumbass out there   ::)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 10, 2006, 03:09:09 am
I don't have a set publishing schedule.  But barring out of town trips or illness, I try to post every 5 to 7 days.  So I'm hoping to post Chapter Eight on Friday, but I'll let you know for sure as we get closer to the end of the week.

So .... about 50 more chapters to go, right?

 :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 10, 2006, 03:11:07 am
Hardy har har...but don't you think if Jack pulled out the flavored ones Ennis would head for the fucking hills?!  :D

Heeee! OMFG Yes!!   ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 10, 2006, 07:01:49 am
You guys are hilarious!  ;D

As for an escape route, maybe they should head on up to Wyoming and Brokeback Mountain, seek refuge in a far away village high up on the mountain and herd sheep?

I know, lame.

;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 10, 2006, 07:12:22 am
Well, I kind of have this fantasy storyline running through my mind which involves the location of Jack and Ennis being discovered. They have to go on the run, relying on both Ennis's FBI training and Jack street awareness to keep them alive.

Seeing as Ennis has been protecting Jack so far, Jack will have an opportunity to save Ennis's life (when it would be easier for Jack to desert him).

I've been thinking about this KAren...

Given the amount of effort Jack puts in to keeping himself fit in order to outrun Madrigal and whoever else, it might be that he and Ennis get into a situation where Ennis's lard-ass ways put them at risk.  Like you say, Jack could easily desert Ennis, but he doesn't. 
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 10, 2006, 08:39:57 am
I've been thinking about this KAren...

Given the amount of effort Jack puts in to keeping himself fit in order to outrun Madrigal and whoever else, it might be that he and Ennis get into a situation where Ennis's lard-ass ways put them at risk.  Like you say, Jack could easily desert Ennis, but he doesn't. 


Oh, Ennis isn't a lard ass.  They discourage lard ass FBI agents.  I just haven't mentioned anything about him working out.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 10, 2006, 09:15:13 am
Oh, Ennis isn't a lard ass.  They discourage lard ass FBI agents.  I just haven't mentioned anything about him working out.

That's no good! We've had the pleasure of Jack and his sweaty workouts complete with bare chest!  You're depriving us, Amy.  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 10, 2006, 09:45:20 am
I found this picture of Ennis in a suit.  More bristly than usual because that's how Jack likes him.


(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/casting%20couch/sogennis.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on October 10, 2006, 04:09:36 pm
Hardy har har...but don't you think if Jack pulled out the flavored ones Ennis would head for the fucking hills?!  :D

How about fluorescent?

That could be fun  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: katecaton on October 10, 2006, 04:18:09 pm
I found this picture of Ennis in a suit.  More bristly than usual because that's how Jack likes him.


(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/casting%20couch/sogennis.jpg)
Mmmm, what a lovely smile. I like him bristly too.  :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 10, 2006, 04:25:53 pm
Mmmm, what a lovely smile. I like him bristly too.  :-*
I love the way he looks on this pic too  :)

I love both the SOG Ennis pics that have been posted  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 10, 2006, 04:56:03 pm
I love the way he looks on this pic too  :)

I love both the SOG Ennis pics that have been posted  :)

I like the smile in this newest one, but I picture him with slightly longer hair like in the first picture.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 10, 2006, 06:39:01 pm
How about this one Amy?

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/casting%20couch/sogennis5.jpg)

And here's one of him getting hot under the collar trying to explain to his bosses just how a bit of shooting the shit with his informant turned into a full blown love affair and elopement to Wyoming...

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/casting%20couch/sogennis3.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: katecaton on October 11, 2006, 04:13:14 am
How about this one Amy?

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/casting%20couch/sogennis5.jpg)

And here's one of him getting hot under the collar trying to explain to his bosses just how a bit of shooting the shit with his informant turned into a full blown love affair and elopement to Wyoming...

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/casting%20couch/sogennis3.jpg)
Well I think the last one  is particularly perfect ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: katecaton on October 11, 2006, 04:37:18 am
What about this one after a hard day at the FBI
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/katecaton/bmau005.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 11, 2006, 09:21:40 am
I found this picture of Ennis in a suit.  More bristly than usual because that's how Jack likes him.


(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/casting%20couch/sogennis.jpg)

I love his face in this one, he looks like such a sweetheart!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 11, 2006, 10:22:14 am
*SIGH*

Is it nearly Friday yet?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on October 11, 2006, 11:26:03 am
*SIGH*

Is it nearly Friday yet?

God I know! The suspense is killing me.

I hope we have a bit more 'action' between the guys in the next installment. Another one of those smokin' kisses would suffice. For now...  ;)

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 11, 2006, 11:28:05 am
You know what's really weird Amy, somehow I picture Josh Holloway to be Dane! Mainly because after N-zee showed us a really wonderful sketch she'd done of BW in New York, who looked nothing like JH,  I don't see him as BW anymore!  ;D

I wish I had that gorgeous pic of JH on the cover of that magazine you once saw at an airport??   ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 11, 2006, 11:31:38 am
God I know! The suspense is killing me.

I hope we have a bit more 'action' between the guys in the next installment. Another one of those smokin' kisses would suffice. For now...  ;)

Karen
Isn't it silly, I just get all nervous thinking of what may or may not happen in the next chapter......
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 11, 2006, 01:12:30 pm
You know what's really weird Amy, somehow I picture Josh Holloway to be Dane! Mainly because after N-zee showed us a really wonderful sketch she'd done of BW in New York, who looked nothing like JH,  I don't see him as BW anymore!  ;D

I wish I had that gorgeous pic of JH on the cover of that magazine you once saw at an airport??   ;D

Josh Holloway? Is that Sawyer in Lost?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 11, 2006, 01:22:01 pm
Josh Holloway? Is that Sawyer in Lost?

Yes, it is   :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 11, 2006, 01:48:06 pm
What about this one after a hard day at the FBI
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/katecaton/bmau005.jpg)

Ohhhhhhh, Kate, I love this one.  He just looks so......... *sigh* *squee*.....you know!

This must be at a time when he's becoming undone with his feelings for Jack.  Instead of the immpeccably dressed FBI agent he was, his mind is full of nothing but Jack Twist these days (Jack Twist's ass, Jack Twist's abs, Jack Twist's co--), and thus he has omitted to notice that, although it's Thursday and he is wearing his Thursday suit, he has got his Tuesday tie on!  *smacks head*

This sartorial forgetfulness will be his demise and the way his bosses find out just exactly what's been happening at Chez Hideout.

Not only that but he might regret being persuaded to let Jack pierce his ear...

 ;)  H
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 11, 2006, 01:59:47 pm
You guys are cracking me up!  You know, Connie Bailey found a picture of Dane that I thought worked really well, June.  Let me see if I can find it again.... I'll be back...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 11, 2006, 02:07:55 pm
Here's Dane:

(http://pics.livejournal.com/baileymoyes/pic/0001b7p2)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 11, 2006, 02:23:05 pm
O.M.F.G. Amy! OMFG!  He is PERFECT!  I could stare at this pic forever. I love his long hair, loooove that he's smoking, love his leather jacket. LOVE everything. I can see Jack 'doing him'!!  :P  *SIGH*  Of course, I'd MUCH rather imagine him doing Ennis but this guy......wow

Thanks Amy  :P

 :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 11, 2006, 02:28:00 pm
Who is he, btw? I recognise him and his name is on the tip of my tongue.....Frustrating!  :D


SO sorry Josh,  this guy.....phew

 ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 11, 2006, 02:30:23 pm
JEEEEZUS  KERRIST Amy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No wonder Ennis is just about exploding with jealousy!!!

My god, I can just imagine Dane and Jack getting it on....and, unfortunately for him, so can Ennis...

*THUD*

Now then, Amy...are you perfectly sure we're not going to get some flashback prison-roomy scenes?!?!?!?!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 11, 2006, 02:40:53 pm
I don't know how I'll ever get any sleep now with this Dane guy running around in my brain along with all the HOT Jack and Ennis images! Jeeeez  ::)  I'm pathetic  ;D


*Squeeeeee* to those jailhouse flashback scenes!!!!!!! OMG my brains doing overtime here  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 11, 2006, 02:51:40 pm
Maybe Dane isnt gay...

I can't remember if Amy has said anything about which way he swings.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 11, 2006, 03:11:35 pm
Maybe Dane isnt gay...

I can't remember if Amy has said anything about which way he swings.

I haven't.  But all will be revealed....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 11, 2006, 03:42:38 pm
I haven't.  But all will be revealed....

That would be hilariously, yet cruelly,  ironic if he was straight.  *sigh*  Poor Ennis :(

You know what I'm really concerned about is Jack's reaction when he finds out Ennis called in to his colleagues/bosses about Ortiz.  Those were quite intimate moments during and after Jack's nightmare, and I think he's going to feel somewhat betrayed to find out that Ennis made that call.

I'm really interested in the time when Ennis has another choice to make between allegiance to Jack and responsibilty towards his job - and chooses Jack.

So many layers to this story, Amy...you're amazing  :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 11, 2006, 07:14:32 pm
That would be hilariously, yet cruelly,  ironic if he was straight.  *sigh*  Poor Ennis :(

You know what I'm really concerned about is Jack's reaction when he finds out Ennis called in to his colleagues/bosses about Ortiz.  Those were quite intimate moments during and after Jack's nightmare, and I think he's going to feel somewhat betrayed to find out that Ennis made that call.

I'm really interested in the time when Ennis has another choice to make between allegiance to Jack and responsibilty towards his job - and chooses Jack.

So many layers to this story, Amy...you're amazing  :-*

Oh I know! That's one of the things that worried me most after the last chapter... Ennis was so sweet comforting Jack that way and that was such an intimate moment... I know Ennis is just doing his job but for him to use that, man, Jack will not be happy. I don't blame Jack at all for not wanting to tell Ennis what happened (even though I seriously cannot wait to find out!!!)

That Dane is perfect! He looks a bit like Christian Bale in that pic...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 11, 2006, 08:06:16 pm
It doesn't help that I can understand why he did it, so am not even annoyed with him about it.  Being so tender with Jack then was much more than friendship or sex...and I think he knew that on some level.

And even though he is nearer accepting his liking of and sexual attraction to Jack...I think he's a way off accepting that he's falling in love.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 11, 2006, 08:58:42 pm
You know what's fun about writing this Ennis?  He is in denial about his sexuality and his feeling, but not as deeply in denial as canon Ennis.  He can't be because he's made his career out of finding out the truth, he can't turn that off, so he has a much harder time lying to himself.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 11, 2006, 10:19:08 pm
You know what's fun about writing this Ennis?  He is in denial about his sexuality and his feeling, but not as deeply in denial as canon Ennis.  He can't be because he's made his career out of finding out the truth, he can't turn that off, so he has a much harder time lying to himself.

You know, that makes a whole lot of sense, and I've never thought of it that way. huh, something to think about...  :)

One of the things that I thought that was so beautiful about the scene where he comforts Jack after his nightmare, was that he does it with no second thought, almost no thought at all actually, as if it was perfectly right and was the only thing he could do. Comforting Jack like that came so naturally to him and like you said, he's made a life out of finding the truth, and he can't deny that to himself.

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 12, 2006, 01:48:27 am
You know what's fun about writing this Ennis?  He is in denial about his sexuality and his feeling, but not as deeply in denial as canon Ennis.  He can't be because he's made his career out of finding out the truth, he can't turn that off, so he has a much harder time lying to himself.
Oh wow Amy, thanks for pointing that out, makes a whole lot of sense to me too.

*Squeeee* it's nearly Friday!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 12, 2006, 01:58:13 am
Amy - there are some folks really worried when/if Cathalin is going to update Dreaming. Do you know anything about that? You know her don't you?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: louisev on October 12, 2006, 07:05:10 am
I think it is great to  have more author discussion here, particularly since this story is one of a few I follow closely.  My favorite selection of AU roles for Ennis is Law Enforcement Ennis... I think I could read that type of story all day long!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 12, 2006, 07:26:35 am
I think it is great to  have more author discussion here, particularly since this story is one of a few I follow closely.  My favorite selection of AU roles for Ennis is Law Enforcement Ennis... I think I could read that type of story all day long!

I love the sound of LawEnforcement!Ennis, Louise! lol 

Oh, me too, Louise. I wish Amy would update several times a day, like you do...  LOL!  ;D

Did you see Lori is starting an AU!AU where Ennis is an assasin being paid to take out Jack? But he can't go through with it and the two of them end up on the run.
Can't wait to read the first chapter  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: louisev on October 12, 2006, 08:07:24 am
well, unlike the bachelorette lifestyle I pursue, Amy has a FAMILY!  Not everyone can go home to a completely silent and empty house with nothing but a computer and a piano staring them in the face saying "touch me!"

And yes, I saw Lori's plot idea.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 12, 2006, 08:11:23 am
well, unlike the bachelorette lifestyle I pursue, Amy has a FAMILY!  Not everyone can go home to a completely silent and empty house with nothing but a computer and a piano staring them in the face saying "touch me!"

And yes, I saw Lori's plot idea.

Heh heh *grin*

Yeah - I know, I was only kidding of course  ;D   I already think it's great that she always sticks to posting once a week.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 12, 2006, 08:16:56 am
June, I'm not sure when Cath is going to post the next installment of Dreaming.  I know her RL has got her very bogged down right now, but she's working on it.

I'm trying my hardest to get Shades up sometimes tomorrow, but there's a chance it might be Saturday morning.  This next chapter just keeps growing....  I'll let you know later today when it will be.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 12, 2006, 08:23:24 am
June, I'm not sure when Cath is going to post the next installment of Dreaming.  I know her RL has got her very bogged down right now, but she's working on it.

I'm trying my hardest to get Shades up sometimes tomorrow, but there's a chance it might be Saturday morning.  This next chapter just keeps growing....  I'll let you know later today when it will be.

Thanks Amy  :)

OH - how wonderful, a nice loong chapter! I'll keep my fingers crossed it's tomorrow, but Saturday's okay too......I think  :P

 :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 12, 2006, 09:11:32 am
well, unlike the bachelorette lifestyle I pursue, Amy has a FAMILY!  Not everyone can go home to a completely silent and empty house with nothing but a computer and a piano staring them in the face saying "touch me!"


You have no idea how often I wish for the silent and empty house...if only for a day or two.   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: louisev on October 12, 2006, 01:12:43 pm
yes but along with the silent and empty house comes the ever urgent cry of the computer keyboard saying "Touch me, TOUCH ME"... and people clamoring for chapters... every day.  Never enough for those fans.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 12, 2006, 01:25:21 pm
yes but along with the silent and empty house comes the ever urgent cry of the computer keyboard saying "Touch me, TOUCH ME"... and people clamoring for chapters... every day.  Never enough for those fans.

Aww, come on Louise, admit it - you LOVE it!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 12, 2006, 01:57:23 pm
yes but along with the silent and empty house comes the ever urgent cry of the computer keyboard saying "Touch me, TOUCH ME"... and people clamoring for chapters... every day.  Never enough for those fans.

LOL...well, I guess that is the trade off.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: louisev on October 12, 2006, 04:17:45 pm
Let's just say, I haven't gotten used to it yet, June.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 13, 2006, 03:54:26 am
It's FRIDAY folks! And I feel like I'm going to explode!  ::)   :D

*excited SQUEEEEE*

*keeps fingers crossed*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on October 13, 2006, 05:58:07 am
It's FRIDAY folks! And I feel like I'm going to explode!  ::)   :D

*excited SQUEEEEE*

*keeps fingers crossed*

I know *jumps up and down*

*takes deep breath*

Remember though that Amy may not be able to post till tomorrow. Then there's the time difference between Europe and the US.

We need to see that tatoo again  ;D

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 13, 2006, 06:09:32 am
I know *jumps up and down*

*takes deep breath*

Remember though that Amy may not be able to post till tomorrow. Then there's the time difference between Europe and the US.

We need to see that tatoo again  ;D

Karen

Ohhhh Karen, don't remind me of that tatoo. I'm starting to feel dizzy again..... ;D

I can't remember what time it was in Holland when Amy posted the last chapter, I think around 6 pm. So that's okay for us.

I SO hope it will be today........
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 13, 2006, 06:39:27 am
Amy's answering comments on her LJ...and that's always a sure sign that the next chapter is coming soon!

God, I can't wait.  I really hope it goes up today as I'm going to be out all day tomorrow, and I'll constantly be wondering if I'm missing anything.  LOL
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 13, 2006, 08:44:30 am
Amy's answering comments on her LJ...and that's always a sure sign that the next chapter is coming soon!

God, I can't wait.  I really hope it goes up today as I'm going to be out all day tomorrow, and I'll constantly be wondering if I'm missing anything.  LOL

LOL I thought the exact same thing when I got a reply from her last night!! I can't wait!! I'm hoping to come home from work to a nice little Shades surprise  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: MaineWriter on October 13, 2006, 09:17:37 am
Rumor has it that she will be posting around 11 am EDT today.

L
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 13, 2006, 09:25:13 am
Rumor has it that she will be posting around 11 am EDT today.

L

That rumor mill is correct!   ;)  Probably be posting in an hour and a half to two hours from now.  Have to get the kiddos to school and then come back and post.  I'll let you know when it's up!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 13, 2006, 09:47:20 am
That rumor mill is correct!   ;)  Probably be posting in an hour and a half to two hours from now.  Have to get the kiddos to school and then come back and post.  I'll let you know when it's up!

God, must be funny to read all these rumours here. Quite an experience to have such a following, Amy?  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on October 13, 2006, 09:53:50 am
Yipeeeeee *skip skip skip*.

I'll be able to read it just before I finish work.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 13, 2006, 09:54:31 am
That rumor mill is correct!   ;)  Probably be posting in an hour and a half to two hours from now.  Have to get the kiddos to school and then come back and post.  I'll let you know when it's up!

Thanks Amy!   :-*

I feel like squeeeeing SO LOUDLY, but I won't.....LOL

 ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 13, 2006, 11:03:29 am
Chapter Eight is up at http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com  Enjoy!   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 13, 2006, 03:02:28 pm
I was right - I needed paramedic assistance.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 13, 2006, 03:45:15 pm
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Squeeee!!!!!!!!!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 13, 2006, 04:10:38 pm
I was right - I needed paramedic assistance.

I know.......

The making out was truly wonderful, soo hot but oh so loving and special too. Like they were made for each other. I love both of them, they are perfect.
And the last lines, that ending. Oh Jesus, so soft and gentle......wow

Every thing about this chapter was perfection, the interview with Dane, the scene in the kitchen, the walk outside, just everything.

Amy, you truly are a goddess. I left you a looong comment on your journal, but I think you already know that  ;D


 :-*


Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 13, 2006, 04:20:01 pm
I also loved how insanely jealous Ennis was of Dane. My God, he nearly lost it in that interview room. I did get the feeling Dane really cares about Jack.

Ohhh, I LOVE this fic so much *SIGH*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 13, 2006, 04:43:22 pm
That scene with the poor guy and his dog was hilarious.  The way Henry (the dog) was running round his owner's ankles, and at the end not wanting to leave!  LOL  I had a laugh out loud moment there.  A bit like Jack.

Ennis saying "What the fuck are you doing, Jack?"  Yeah, quite!  And jack, knowing he's just made a big boo-boo, wondering just what the fuck he's doing too.

Do you think there was a bit of showing off involved there, too?  Wanting to show Ennis that he could do the protecting thing as well?  I was about to say it wasn't succesful (well, in that regard anyway) but since it led to my computer screen almost melting maybe it was!

Both of them are jealous as hell!!  Ennis totally compromising himself with Dane, and Jack jumping to conclusions about where Ennis was.  It eating away at both of them.

I am almost dreading thinking where this is going to lead in the short term.  Especially vis a vis the ortiz thing.  Maybe Jack will tell Ennis abut it, and Ennis will be let off the hook as to how he found out.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 13, 2006, 05:16:49 pm
That scene with the poor guy and his dog was hilarious.  The way Henry (the dog) was running round his owner's ankles, and at the end not wanting to leave!  LOL  I had a laugh out loud moment there.  A bit like Jack.

Ennis saying "What the fuck are you doing, Jack?"  Yeah, quite!  And jack, knowing he's just made a big boo-boo, wondering just what the fuck he's doing too.

Do you think there was a bit of showing off involved there, too?  Wanting to show Ennis that he could do the protecting thing as well?  I was about to say it wasn't succesful (well, in that regard anyway) but since it led to my computer screen almost melting maybe it was!

Both of them are jealous as hell!!  Ennis totally compromising himself with Dane, and Jack jumping to conclusions about where Ennis was.  It eating away at both of them.

I am almost dreading thinking where this is going to lead in the short term.  Especially vis a vis the ortiz thing.  Maybe Jack will tell Ennis abut it, and Ennis will be let off the hook as to how he found out.

I don't think Jack was showing off, I think he was genuinely afraid somebody was sneaking up on them, especially now that he has gone into hiding and they are out to get him.

I hope to God Ennis will level with Jack about Ortiz. I really get the feeling Ortiz was special to Jack and he is going to feel so betrayed if/when he finds out what Ennis has done  :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 13, 2006, 07:50:09 pm
I don't think Jack was showing off, I think he was genuinely afraid somebody was sneaking up on them, especially now that he has gone into hiding and they are out to get him.

I hope to God Ennis will level with Jack about Ortiz. I really get the feeling Ortiz was special to Jack and he is going to feel so betrayed if/when he finds out what Ennis has done  :(

Agreed, I think Jack was terrified when he heard the footsteps behind him. I know I was, the second he wanted to take a walk I thought "bad idea" and I don't know about you guys but I'm really worried about the guy with the dog and his "somebody is going to hear about this". I know he doesn't know who Jack is and who Hinestroza is, but like Ennis says in another chapter, Hinestroza "makes a career of finding loose ends" and that's exactly what the guy with the dog just became. Maybe I'm making too much of it  :-\ Either way, I think Jack was terrified and just reacted on instinct. I thought that scene was so realistic, right down to Jack wanting to burst out laughing.

I LOVED this chapter!!!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 13, 2006, 11:32:23 pm
I'm glad you guys liked the chapter!  Hey, June, I just found out that picture of Dane IS Christian Bale.  Good eyes, girl!  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 13, 2006, 11:40:09 pm
I'm glad you guys liked the chapter!  Hey, June, I just found out that picture of Dane IS Christian Bale.  Good eyes, girl!  ;)

Hey, that was me!  ;)

Christian Bale is one of my favorites, I'll watch him in anything and he's the perfect Dane! Ok, can someone please make your story into a movie?????
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 13, 2006, 11:43:30 pm
Oh, sorry!!  I didn't go back and check, I just went by my (obviously rusty) memory.  Okay, you've got good eyes!   ;)  Believe me, I'd LOVE it if someone made it into a movie.  LOL
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 14, 2006, 03:59:46 am
Phhhhhhhheeeeeeeeewwwwww.....

That was one hell of a chapter, Amy!

I loved this line:

“You think I’m so stupid I can’t tell what you’ve been doing? Think I can’t fucking smell her all over you?” Jack shouted.


Genius!!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 14, 2006, 04:51:34 am
I'm glad you guys liked the chapter!  Hey, June, I just found out that picture of Dane IS Christian Bale.  Good eyes, girl!  ;)

Yep! That was Mandy! Can't take no credit for it!  ;D  He's Hot......perfect for Dane. Loved that scene with Dane and Ennis, loved how calm and relaxed Dane was, irritating the hell of out Ennis!! Great stuff.

Oh and a Shades movie? Oh man! I'd LOVE it too.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 14, 2006, 06:07:26 am
I need to go to Amy's journal and follow up with a coherent comment!

Amy - you are a bad girl!  I was just about to go and do the grocery shopping when you posted, and I couldn't wait, so read Shades before I went.

OH GOD!

There I was in amongst the vegetables with a glassy look in my eyes and drool dribbling down my chin. *shivers*  When this thing gets a hold a me.....

hxxx
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on October 15, 2006, 06:35:02 am

There I was in amongst the vegetables with a glassy look in my eyes and drool dribbling down my chin. *shivers*  When this thing gets a hold a me.....

hxxx

I know!! I had to go shopping yesterday I kept getting flashbacks to that chapter. Came home without half the stuff I intended  ;D

Amy, it was pitched just perfectly!

I am loving this fic! I just hope that Ennis in this story doesn't think that he's got to 'do the right thing' by Alma, because down that road lies a whole heap of grief.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 16, 2006, 08:28:32 pm
Hey, Helen, I just saw your comment on my LJ.  You're right about poor Ennis and his internal voice.  He can't escape from it, can he?  When he tries to hide from his feelings for Jack it searches him out.  And when he tries to hide from the implications of acting on those feelings it searches him out.  I don't think Ennis is going to have much peace until he comes to terms with himself and what he really wants and needs.  I just had to comment because I was struck by what you said about how sad it was he couldn't even enjoy that time lying next to Jack. 
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 16, 2006, 10:17:14 pm
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I just had to comment because I was struck by what you said about how sad it was he couldn't even enjoy that time lying next to Jack. 

Reading that just made me really sad for Ennis. That last chapter was just so wonderful, Amy! I think I'm going to have to re read it tonight...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 16, 2006, 10:28:52 pm
Oh, thanks.  I'm so glad you liked it.  I'm working on 9 now.  Hope to have it posted on Thursday, but I'll give you guys a heads up in a few days!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 17, 2006, 07:35:22 am
Oh, thanks.  I'm so glad you liked it.  I'm working on 9 now.  Hope to have it posted on Thursday, but I'll give you guys a heads up in a few days!

Thursday?? SQUEEEEEE!

 :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 17, 2006, 07:37:30 am
I just had to comment because I was struck by what you said about how sad it was he couldn't even enjoy that time lying next to Jack. 

That really did struck me too at the end, he really needs to learn work more with that mute button!  :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 17, 2006, 08:17:44 am
Hey, Helen, I just saw your comment on my LJ.  You're right about poor Ennis and his internal voice.  He can't escape from it, can he?  When he tries to hide from his feelings for Jack it searches him out.  And when he tries to hide from the implications of acting on those feelings it searches him out.  I don't think Ennis is going to have much peace until he comes to terms with himself and what he really wants and needs.  I just had to comment because I was struck by what you said about how sad it was he couldn't even enjoy that time lying next to Jack. 

I thought it was very interesting, though, when his inner voice does speak it's saying that he can't have a life with Jack because Jack is (presumably) going to be going into WP and he will go back to his career.  So, his subconscious is already at the point where he knows he wants to be with Jack on a permanent basis.  I love the psychology in your story, Amy.

Ennis is unaware that his capabilities to carry out his job are now much reduced.  I doubt he'll be able to look at any/many suspects without wondering about how they got to where they are. Did they get trapped like Jack did. I wonder if he'll get the opportunity to see that. 

Madrigal will soon be on their scent I'm sure now that someone outside the apartment knows that there is an FBI agent and a Jack in the vicinity.  It was crazy for them to go out, crazy for Jack to pull the gun and crazy for Ennis to open his mouth and spill the beans like that. 

What I liked about them going out was when Jack brushed the rain off Ennis's face.  It was an instinctive thing to do and Ennis didn't draw back from it, didn't think it was out of place. Neither of them gave it a second thought it was so natural.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 17, 2006, 10:07:22 am
What I liked about them going out was when Jack brushed the rain off Ennis's face.  It was an instinctive thing to do and Ennis didn't draw back from it, didn't think it was out of place. Neither of them gave it a second thought it was so natural.

I agree, that was such a nice touch. The same with the chapter before that when Jack touched his hand to look at the wounds, he doesn't back away, because it feels natural to him and then he just takes a sip from the bottle. The fact that they have already kissed increases the intimacy between them, obviously.

I also liked how Jack was acting really hurt about Ennis supposedly going to see Alma, with that line that I already quoted a few posts ago. It's not just that Ennis feels that Jack is his, Jack also feels that Ennis is his. I love that jealousy thing.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 17, 2006, 10:29:18 am
I don't care at all about Alma in this fic...but I'm just wondering how Ennis is going to deal with that side of things.  It was obvious he was shocked at Jack's outburst, but what is he going to do?  Ennis has nothing to worry about with Dane and Jack, so his feelings weren't entirely justified, even though they were understandable. 

Is Ennis going to stop seeing Alma?  Make up some excuse?  Will he be able to have sex with her now knowing how Jack feels about his relationship with her?  He has to break up with her - but how?!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 18, 2006, 03:31:42 am
I had a thought last night before going to sleep...I've been thinking about Madrigal finding out where they are...but what are Ennis's bosses going to think when they learn that he's been out and about with Jack, and that Jack has a gun?  Are they going to pull him from the case?  *sob*

Amy is replying to comments, so won't be too long till the next chap!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 18, 2006, 09:01:05 am
Amy is replying to comments, so won't be too long till the next chap!

Thursday is only one day away  ;D

I seriously can't wait!

I'm worried too though, it's been too long without hearing anything from Madrigal and he's bound to pop back up at some point and that walk around the block was not a smart move at all....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 18, 2006, 09:24:02 am
Thursday is only one day away  ;D

I seriously can't wait!

I'm worried too though, it's been too long without hearing anything from Madrigal and he's bound to pop back up at some point and that walk around the block was not a smart move at all....

Me neither.......

So, for Madrigal to pick up on Ennis and Jack would mean him having an inside guy within the Bureau somewhere, right? How else would he be able to pick up on that guys complaint? *sigh* stuff like this keeps me up at night  ::)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 18, 2006, 10:11:14 am
*sigh* stuff like this keeps me up at night  ::)
:laugh: :laugh: ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 18, 2006, 11:01:50 am
:laugh: :laugh: ;)

I know Mel.......I'm SO pathetic  ;D but it's true  ;D  ::)  there's this story and one other out there that does this to me.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 18, 2006, 11:16:38 am
I know Mel.......I'm SO pathetic  ;D but it's true  ;D  ::)  there's this story and one other out there that does this to me.

Oh no, it's not pathetic at all, it's very recognisable!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 18, 2006, 11:21:33 am
Oh no, it's not pathetic at all, it's very recognisable!!!! ;D

Whew!

 ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 18, 2006, 01:11:24 pm
It keeps me up at night too... I'm worried about those two, especially now that they have finally gotten down to doing the dirty, the focus in the story might shift a bit... enter Madrigal/Heinstroza  :-\

That's an interesting thought though... could he have a man on the inside? Ahhhh... I can't wait!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 18, 2006, 01:38:05 pm
So, for Madrigal to pick up on Ennis and Jack would mean him having an inside guy within the Bureau somewhere, right? How else would he be able to pick up on that guys complaint? *sigh* stuff like this keeps me up at night  ::)

*bites lips to keep from talking*  Should be posting tomorrow morning, around 10:30 CST, if all goes well.  Thanks, guys!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 18, 2006, 01:49:05 pm
*bites lips to keep from talking*  Should be posting tomorrow morning, around 10:30 CST, if all goes well.  Thanks, guys!

Whooooohoooooo!!

Did you post the last chapter at this time, Amy? I'm trying to figure out what time it will be in Holland, I'm hopeless with these bloody time zones  ::) Should have saved that handy time zone thingy Helen had  ::)

I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to the next chapter Amy  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 18, 2006, 01:55:15 pm
Whooooohoooooo!!

Did you post the last chapter at this time, Amy? I'm trying to figure out what time it will be in Holland, I'm hopeless with these bloody time zones  ::) Should have saved that handy time zone thingy Helen had  ::)

I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to the next chapter Amy  :)

Last chapter went up around that time, maybe slightly earlier.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 18, 2006, 02:05:17 pm
10.30am Central is 4.30pm UK and 5.30pm Dutch.  :)

Since getting involved in BBM forums and fandom I seem to have become a timezone expert!!   ::)

My husband is doing the shopping tomorrow, so I'll have the house to myself at that time :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 18, 2006, 03:15:38 pm
oooh and I have the day off tomorrow, so I won't have to wait until I get home to read it  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 18, 2006, 03:37:06 pm
oooh and I have the day off tomorrow, so I won't have to wait until I get home to read it  ;D

Good for you Mandy!

So...I guess that means we'll be able to expect an update from you as well?  ;D 

 :P
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 18, 2006, 03:38:15 pm
10.30am Central is 4.30pm UK and 5.30pm Dutch.  :)

Since getting involved in BBM forums and fandom I seem to have become a timezone expert!!   ::)

My husband is doing the shopping tomorrow, so I'll have the house to myself at that time :)

Thanks H  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 18, 2006, 04:29:29 pm
oooh and I have the day off tomorrow, so I won't have to wait until I get home to read it  ;D

And I'm working from home because my poor boyfriend is having surgery on his ankle.  :(

So when this update arrives, I will not have to wait until I get home, but can start reading it right after work, at 5.30 pm Dutch time!

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 18, 2006, 04:36:17 pm
And I'm working from home because my poor boyfriend is having surgery on his ankle.  :(

So when this update arrives, I will not have to wait until I get home, but can start reading it right after work, at 5.30 pm Dutch time!



Hope the surgery goes well.  :)

Do you live in Holland, Mel?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 18, 2006, 04:50:50 pm
Hope the surgery goes well.  :)

Do you live in Holland, Mel?

Thanks, he will be OK, I guess, they are removing the bolts from his ankle that were placed there after an accident last year.

I do live in Holland, yes, I live in Zaandam and work in Amsterdam! You live in Holland?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 18, 2006, 05:00:16 pm
Thanks, he will be OK, I guess, they are removing the bolts from his ankle that were placed there after an accident last year.

I do live in Holland, yes, I live in Zaandam and work in Amsterdam! You live in Holland?

Yes. In a small town on the outskirts of Rotterdam. You aren't Dutch are you? How long have you lived here?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 18, 2006, 05:05:34 pm
Good for you Mandy!

So...I guess that means we'll be able to expect an update from you as well?  ;D 

 :P


ummmmm.... I won't say anything about that, I might get myself into some trouble with those pesky self imposed deadlines  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 18, 2006, 05:07:34 pm
My husband is doing the shopping tomorrow, so I'll have the house to myself at that time :)

oooh and I have the day off tomorrow, so I won't have to wait until I get home to read it  ;D

So when this update arrives, I will not have to wait until I get home, but can start reading it right after work, at 5.30 pm Dutch time!

We're all set then!!  LOL   ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 18, 2006, 05:19:01 pm
We're all set then!!  LOL   ;D

Heee! squeeee! YES! We are!!!  ;D

We still have to wait such a loooooong time though  :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 18, 2006, 05:22:59 pm

ummmmm.... I won't say anything about that, I might get myself into some trouble with those pesky self imposed deadlines  ;)

*grumbles* OH, okay then. You do know how much all of us are dying for that next chapter, dont you?  ;D

BTW - I'm being a BAD girl  ;D  Posting all of this stuff here which has got nothing to do with Shades!  ::)

Sorry Amy  :P   :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on October 18, 2006, 05:23:34 pm
We're all set then!!  LOL   ;D

I've got an exam tomorrow at 3pm. Hope I can concentrate on the matter at hand and not be thinking too much about Amy posting.

I'm totally serious.  ;D

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 18, 2006, 05:28:03 pm
I've got an exam tomorrow at 3pm. Hope I can concentrate on the matter at hand and not be thinking too much about Amy posting.

I'm totally serious.  ;D

Karen

Good luck with that!!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 18, 2006, 05:47:54 pm
*grumbles* OH, okay then. You do know how much all of us are dying for that next chapter, dont you?  ;D

BTW - I'm being a BAD girl  ;D  Posting all of this stuff here which has got nothing to do with Shades!  ::)

Sorry Amy  :P   :-*

dying for the next chapter? Ok, you've twisted my arm, I think it should be posted some time tomorrow night  ;D

sorry, Amy! from now on, it's all Shades all the time!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 18, 2006, 05:52:09 pm
Yes. In a small town on the outskirts of Rotterdam. You aren't Dutch are you? How long have you lived here?

Yes I am Dutch, a genuine Cloggie!  :)  I have lived here all my life, used to live in Alkmaar, then moved to LA for a year and now I have lived in Zaandam for four years!

Are you Dutch?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 18, 2006, 05:56:35 pm
I've got an exam tomorrow at 3pm. Hope I can concentrate on the matter at hand and not be thinking too much about Amy posting.

Good luck. After that, you're all set!  ;)
dying for the next chapter? Ok, you've twisted my arm, I think it should be posted some time tomorrow night  ;D

Oh, yes, I just finished your last chapter, I will post a comment on your thread...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 18, 2006, 06:23:03 pm
dying for the next chapter? Ok, you've twisted my arm, I think it should be posted some time tomorrow night  ;D

sorry, Amy! from now on, it's all Shades all the time!

Last time Amy! I promise!  :P

That was easy Mandy!  ;D

Squeeeee!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 18, 2006, 06:24:18 pm
Yes I am Dutch, a genuine Cloggie!  :)  I have lived here all my life, used to live in Alkmaar, then moved to LA for a year and now I have lived in Zaandam for four years!

Are you Dutch?

I will reply in the Dutch thread Mel  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 19, 2006, 06:04:21 am
*checks time*

*sighs*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 19, 2006, 06:31:11 am
*checks time*

*sighs*

 ;D

I will reply in the Dutch thread Mel  :)

Where is that?  :o
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 19, 2006, 08:48:25 am
Hi guys!  I'm getting the kids ready for school and then once I'm home I'll post.  And don't apologize for talking about topics other than Shades on here, I don't care at all!   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 19, 2006, 09:08:00 am
*checks time*

*sighs*

Not much longer now.... :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 19, 2006, 09:12:03 am
Yes I am Dutch, a genuine Cloggie!  :)  I have lived here all my life, used to live in Alkmaar, then moved to LA for a year and now I have lived in Zaandam for four years!

Are you Dutch?

I guess I can answer here now, we've got Amy's permission! Thanks Amy  :)

Yes, half Dutch half British. Been living here for quite some time now, lived all over the place while I was growing up.

The Dutch thread is the one you started!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 19, 2006, 09:57:16 am
I guess I can answer here now, we've got Amy's permission! Thanks Amy  :)

Yes, half Dutch half British. Been living here for quite some time now, lived all over the place while I was growing up.

The Dutch thread is the one you started!  :D

Oh yeah! Hee hee hee, is that still here somewhere on bettermost? ;-) So how long have you lived in NL? Do you like it here?

God, I need to finish proofreading two Powerpoint presentations, then pick up my boyfriend from the hospital and then, hopefully the new chapter will be there... :-)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 19, 2006, 09:58:42 am
*rolls eys*

Is there a thread you two don't take over?    ::)  :laugh:
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 19, 2006, 10:00:58 am
even though it's only 9 am here the first thing I did when i woke up was check to see if by some miracle the new chapter had been posted early... I'm a wreck!!

Soon I hope!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 19, 2006, 10:09:51 am
*rolls eys*

Is there a thread you two don't take over?    ::)  :laugh:

Hee hee hee (*evil eyes*), we Dutchies want to take over the whole world, starting with Bettermost!!!  :P :laugh:

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 19, 2006, 10:11:05 am
even though it's only 9 am here the first thing I did when i woke up was check to see if by some miracle the new chapter had been posted early... I'm a wreck!!

Soon I hope!

I can't wait to see what happens.

I'm hoping for some more kissing at least (I LOVE kissing scenes between J and E, and touching too), but have steeled myself for heavy angst just in case...

I was rereading some of the chapters last night, and realised they get takeouts delivered.  So, I'm wondering if that's how Madrigal will get to them.  Take out the ...er...takeout person and knock at the door.  Voila!  Open sesame.

The stress is killing me!!!!   :-\ :'( ??? :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 19, 2006, 10:50:46 am
I can't wait to see what happens.

I'm hoping for some more kissing at least (I LOVE kissing scenes between J and E, and touching too), but have steeled myself for heavy angst just in case...

I was rereading some of the chapters last night, and realised they get takeouts delivered.  So, I'm wondering if that's how Madrigal will get to them.  Take out the ...er...takeout person and knock at the door.  Voila!  Open sesame.

The stress is killing me!!!!   :-\ :'( ??? :(

God, that's just too depressing to even consider......Don't you think that after what happened with that guy with the dog Ennis will move them to another safe house?  :-\  And because he's so overwhelmed and confused by his feelings for Jack and feels he therefore can't protect Jack sufficiently he'll ask to be reassigned??  :-\

I don't know, it's driving me nuts.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 19, 2006, 11:02:26 am
I don't think he'd voluntarily ask to be reassigned.  Colin already gave him an out on that one which he refused.  And if HE can't protect Jack, no-one can. No way he would let anyone else in on that one.  Jack is his.  He wouldn't give him up.

I think if they ARE going to be separated it'll be because Ennis's bosses pull him out.  And if that doesn't happen than Madrigal will find them where they are.  But they'll escape.

I think at some point Ennis will have to make a big choice between love and duty, and will choose Jack.  He feels guilty at phoning in about Ortiz already.  Would he be able to do something like that again?

And what about his "interview" with Dane.  His professionalism has gone flying out the window.  No way he can keep his job.  At the very beginning of Shades he was admitting to losing his touch, that his heart wasn't in it as much as it had been.

I'm wondering when he'll ditch Alma.  Or if he just goes off with Jack and leaves her to work it out herself.  He doesn't give much thought to her as it is!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 19, 2006, 11:17:34 am
Maybe Madrigal will get rid of Alma!!  ;D

Just to show Ennis and Jack he means business and that he can't be fucked with.

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 19, 2006, 11:30:32 am
Hey, guys, Chapter Nine is up at http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com   

Oh, and don't worry, Alma will resurface, Ennis hasn't forgotten about her.  It's just that when he's in the apartment he can't see her very often so it's easy for him, right now, to pretend she's not an issue...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 19, 2006, 11:45:43 am
God damn it, Helen!  I just KNEW you would bring up that fucking Vaseline.  Jack has chapped lips, okay?   :)  But seriously, Ennis is going to tease him about it next chapter.  I just didn't want to break up the flow in this one for Ennis to start giving him shit.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 19, 2006, 11:52:10 am
God damn it, Helen!  I just KNEW you would bring up that fucking Vaseline.  Jack has chapped lips, okay?   :)  But seriously, Ennis is going to tease him about it next chapter.  I just didn't want to break up the flow in this one for Ennis to start giving him shit.

Hmmm....I'll let you off.   ;D ;D

LOL...I'm sorry.  When he said he had a condom MY inner voice was saying "Yeah, but what about lube...where's that going to spring from?"

 ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 19, 2006, 12:21:50 pm
I think that was the most beautiful lovemaking scene I've ever read. 

*sigh*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 19, 2006, 12:53:19 pm
I think that was the most beautiful lovemaking scene I've ever read. 

*sigh*

I second that. It was beyond beautiful.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 19, 2006, 01:02:05 pm
I second that. It was beyond beautiful.

I'll be the third to say it... I read it like an hour and a half ago and I'm still thinking about it... amazing.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 19, 2006, 01:09:20 pm
I'll be the third to say it... I read it like an hour and a half ago and I'm still thinking about it... amazing.

An update of Amy's stays with me right untill the next one. I can't stop thinking about them. I swear my head is pounding right now.....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Summor on October 19, 2006, 01:39:34 pm
Umm....Hi guys!!  **waving crazy**  Amy mentioned this thread and forum to me, so I'm finally here to say hi and take a peek at all of your great SOG discussion! 

I'm kinda a big Shades fan! ;)

And Amy, this chpt was sheer hot perfection!

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 19, 2006, 01:46:26 pm
Hey, everybody..."Summor" is Christina from DC (and one of my most excellent betas) in case you didn't know. 
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 19, 2006, 02:22:39 pm
Hey Christina *waves*   :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 19, 2006, 02:37:28 pm
Umm....Hi guys!!  **waving crazy**  Amy mentioned this thread and forum to me, so I'm finally here to say hi and take a peek at all of your great SOG discussion! 

I'm kinda a big Shades fan! ;)

And Amy, this chpt was sheer hot perfection!



Hi Christina! *waves back*

How great to see you here  :)

I'm still reeling from this last chapter. So amazing  :)

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: MaineWriter on October 19, 2006, 02:44:54 pm
Umm....Hi guys!!  **waving crazy**  Amy mentioned this thread and forum to me, so I'm finally here to say hi and take a peek at all of your great SOG discussion! 

I'm kinda a big Shades fan! ;)

And Amy, this chpt was sheer hot perfection!



Hi Summor,

Welcome! We are glad to have you here at Bettermost and hope you enjoy your time here...the SOG thread is becoming VERY active. Enjoy!

Leslie
MaineWriter
Moderator, Fanfic
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 19, 2006, 03:27:20 pm
Welcome Summor!  ;D

I think you'll find us a friendly group over here  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 19, 2006, 03:30:38 pm
Umm....Hi guys!!  **waving crazy**  Amy mentioned this thread and forum to me, so I'm finally here to say hi and take a peek at all of your great SOG discussion! 

**Waving back** Hi! Welcome to Bettermost, I am sure you will have a wonderful time here!

Amy, that was another awesome chapter, I knew you would be able to reel me into the first extreme AU!AU that I have ever read! God, I am really worried about what's going to happen in the next chapter, I am really not looking forward to Madrigal finding Jack and Ennis.  >:(

More sleepless nights thinking about that, thank you very much... ;)

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 19, 2006, 03:44:01 pm
God, I am really worried about what's going to happen in the next chapter, I am really not looking forward to Madrigal finding Jack and Ennis.  >:(

Me neither.

I'm wondering how he will get into the flat (sorry, apartment!).  My ideas so far are that he could pretend to be a delivery person with a takeout...or he will somehow break in during the night when they will be at their most vulnerable.  Or *worries*  he'll come when Ennis is out, and Jack will be captured *cries*  I couldn't bear that. :(

I really don't want them to be split up, whatever else happens, so hope Ennis leaving the apartment at any time (to split up with Alma?  Oh, the irony!) isn't going to result in that.

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 19, 2006, 04:10:32 pm
Or maybe they will go to the place where Jack has his WP interview...and madrigal will see them leave, and somehow be waiting for them when theyget back.

God - I am really fretting over this now.  I know you've said they will be together at the end, Amy, but I'm wondering what will happen to them whilst getting to that point.  Hoping neither will get badly hurt, but thinking it may happen.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 19, 2006, 04:19:20 pm
I just hope Ennis has the good sense to move them into another apartment in a completely different neighbourhood. That's what I'm desperately hoping for. He must know how risky it's become to stay there.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 19, 2006, 04:29:01 pm
I can't see that happening, otherwise the story can't go anywhere, and Madrigal's presence in the storyline would be watered down.

For me, part of the excitement is the question of what will happen when he finds them.  If he doesn't find them why bother with him?

How could Ennis justify a request to move?  Madrigal has disappeared the paperwork, so to all intents and purposes no complaint was made. And surely he wouldn't tell his bosses that they went out for a walk - that would get him taken off the case for sure.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 19, 2006, 04:36:48 pm
Yeah, you are so right H. I'm no good at this  ::)   :-X

I don't find it exciting though, I find it terrifying  :'(

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 19, 2006, 04:40:26 pm
Me neither.

I'm wondering how he will get into the flat (sorry, apartment!).  My ideas so far are that he could pretend to be a delivery person with a takeout...or he will somehow break in during the night when they will be at their most vulnerable.  Or *worries*  he'll come when Ennis is out, and Jack will be captured *cries*  I couldn't bear that. :(

I really don't want them to be split up, whatever else happens, so hope Ennis leaving the apartment at any time (to split up with Alma?  Oh, the irony!) isn't going to result in that.

Oh no, I can't bear it!

And you know what, there is always this thing of Jack maybe finding out that Ennis used the name he shouted in his dreams as information for the FBI....

What did you guys think about that internal conversation Jack had about what it would be like to betray Ennis? I think it's intriguing to say the least, I was kind of worried that those kinds of things were still going through his head, but maybe not anymore after the night they spent together.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Summor on October 19, 2006, 05:10:21 pm
Hey guys!  I only have a second to pop in and quickly read everyone's thoughts and comments.  I LOVE how you have a thread for each separate story you're discussing.  Now I can completely pour out all of my SOG thoughts that are running rampant through my brain.

I'm very nervous about what's in store in Chpt 10...so many possibilities.  I'll have to use my extra harassment abilities on Amy to see what insight she'll give me. ;) 

Madrigal sends shivers down my spine, and I'm worried for both Jack and Ennis.  He can't let Jack escape for a second time!  The last section was soooo angsty for me.  I'm thinking Jack's gun will come into play soon too.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 19, 2006, 05:37:23 pm
I"m worried he's going to find them while Jack and Ennis are in bed together and then when he sees how important Ennis is to Jack, he'll work overtime to hurt him... similar to what I feel like he probably did to Oritz (although I could be way off base with that...)

Oh man, I'm a nervous wreck!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on October 19, 2006, 06:29:13 pm
"It was early for the first snowfall, but Jack wasn’t complaining."

Even without the M/H conversation ending this current chapter, I suppose the early snow is a harbinger borrowed directly from canon: Warning that their secluded time apart from the rest or the world is drawing to an abrupt end.

And that abrupt end will have something to do with Madrigal......

Since we haven't had the Ortiz story yet, I'm beginning to think we'll not learn what happened until Madrigal actually catches up with Ennis and Jack. He loved tormenting Jack, reminding him of Ortiz at that wedding. Madrigal surely would be thrilled to dish the story out to Ennis in all its horror with Jack as helpless witness, once he finds out what E & J now mean to each other.

As long as I know there will be a happy ending, I'm not at all adverse to lots of angst. And I sure can see many possible extremely angsty and near heart-breaking scenarios in the immediate SoG future, - in which E&Js newfound love will surely play an important part and be tested and tried.....

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 20, 2006, 12:08:49 am
I"m worried he's going to find them while Jack and Ennis are in bed together and then when he sees how important Ennis is to Jack, he'll work overtime to hurt him...

Oh me too!  I'm really hoping that he'll get there when they are best able to defend themselves though.   Another worry is that they'll have to shoot him/kill him in order to get away from him, and then they'll be on the run for sure.

*sigh*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 20, 2006, 12:43:07 am
I'm no good at this  ::)   

LOL...who's to say I am?!  I may be leading myself well astray!

I'm frightened for them, and hope Ennis will realise just exactly what Madrigal could be capable of.  I know he's seen his handiwork, but he doesn't know him in the same way Jack does.

*angst*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on October 20, 2006, 07:39:03 am
Lots of conjecture and anticipation going on in here.  ;D

Am so loving this story. That last chaper was wonderful. Passionate and hot (v v v hot), and then the threatening ending. Do particuarly like how the story has parallels with the original.

Or *worries*  he'll come when Ennis is out, and Jack will be captured *cries*  I couldn't bear that. :(

I really don't want them to be split up, whatever else happens, so hope Ennis leaving the apartment at any time (to split up with Alma?  Oh, the irony!) isn't going to result in that.


That's exactly what went through my head. Ennis is going to have to leave the appartment at some point and that's when Madrigal (great name for a villan) could strike. Will Jack escape? Madrigal wants to torture Jack, so will he drag him off elsewhere, leaving Ennis to track them down just in time to save the day? Maybe Madrigal will break in whilst they're both in the flat and use Jack's affection for Ennis as a weapon. Or vice versa.

My word - my head's spinning! And we've got to wait a week for the next update. Good kind of torment though.

Amy  - you don't object to all the speculation that goes on here do you?

Karen

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 20, 2006, 08:34:32 am
Hi, Karen.  No, I honestly don't mind the speculation at all.  The speculation about the first sex scene made me crazy (as I told Helen  ;) ) just because writing those scenes makes me so nervous and I was worried about it.  But seriously, all speculation is fine with me.  That's what makes it fun to read, right?!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 20, 2006, 08:35:38 am
Oh me too!  I'm really hoping that he'll get there when they are best able to defend themselves though.   Another worry is that they'll have to shoot him/kill him in order to get away from him, and then they'll be on the run for sure.

*sigh*

Actually, Ennis could shoot Madrigal and it wouldn't be a problem, if Madrigal was threatening their lives.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on October 20, 2006, 09:24:44 am
Actually, Ennis could shoot Madrigal and it wouldn't be a problem, if Madrigal was threatening their lives.

Indeed he could.

But....... I've got a sneaking suspicion that you're not going to make it that simple for any of the characters.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 20, 2006, 10:06:17 am
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/shades%20of%20grey/ennisdelmarFBIbadgecopy.jpg)



(please do not copy or repost elsewhere...ta)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 20, 2006, 10:18:53 am
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/shades%20of%20grey/shadescoverfbi7copy.jpg (http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/shades%20of%20grey/shadescoverfbi7copy.jpg)

This is a link to some coverart I've done for Shades.  Please don't copy or post elsewhere. Thanks. :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 20, 2006, 10:28:40 am
You beat me to it, Helen!  I just left you a pm saying you should post those on the thread!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 20, 2006, 10:42:45 am
LOL...I wasn't going to (I mean it's not like it's ART or anything) but thought it would be a bit of fun :D  I do like that badge!!!  It's fun doing this stuff *grin*

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 20, 2006, 11:31:01 am
Here's something I've been thinking about....condoms. 

<snip>

  Has Ennis got a couple in his wallet "just in case"

LOL...I wasn't too far out!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 20, 2006, 11:32:17 am
Actually, Ennis could shoot Madrigal and it wouldn't be a problem, if Madrigal was threatening their lives.

Hmmm...what if Jack shot him?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on October 20, 2006, 11:36:54 am
Hmmm...what if Jack shot him?


Mmmmmm... now there's a question.

Ennis couldn't cover that one up, not seeing as Jack has got his illegally obtained firearm. He could either turn Jack in, or go on the run with him.

Lots of our theories seem to end up with the boys on the run.

Could witness protection not sort them out with a little cow and calf operation somewhere? After all, they're both Wyoming boys. It'd be some sweet life (sorry - just had to slip that in). :D

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 20, 2006, 11:43:18 am

Lots of our theories seem to end up with the boys on the run.


LOL.  They do.  I can't get away from the hot picture of them making their getaway on the back of Jack's motorbike!  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on October 20, 2006, 11:50:17 am
LOL.  They do.  I can't get away from the hot picture of them making their getaway on the back of Jack's motorbike!  :)

Oh yes! Thank you for sharing that picture. That would be hot.

Then again those two could make a getaway on the back of a donkey and it would still be hot.   ;D

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 20, 2006, 11:58:20 am
Then again those two could make a getaway on the back of a donkey and it would still be hot.   ;D

Karen

Oh god, LMAO!  *frantically trying to think of way to work donkey into the next chapter*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 20, 2006, 12:15:48 pm
Oh god, LMAO!  *frantically trying to think of way to work donkey into the next chapter*

On their next walk round the block maybe they meet someone taking their pet donkey for a walk... LOL
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 20, 2006, 12:29:14 pm
Then again those two could make a getaway on the back of a donkey and it would still be hot.   ;D

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on October 20, 2006, 03:57:21 pm
One more little appreciative post from me:

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It was only the two of them now, enclosed in their own little world....

Many of the scenes and much of the imagery in SoG makes a strong impact. Still, I think those few sentences, less than two small paragraphs really, describing Jack and Ennis as they fall asleep; - bodies and hearts entwined, no barriers, feeling that all's finally right with the world, cocooned in their own private and as yet invisible space; - that creates one of the most perfect, most powerful and quintessential J&E images ever. I can picture it clearly and it's difficult to think of any image of the two of them that feels more right, bridging AUAU and canon and any space inbetween.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 20, 2006, 05:44:57 pm
Mikaela, what a lovely post.  Thank you!  You know, of this entire story those two paragraphs are the ones I can see most clearly in my mind, too.  Funny how that works sometimes....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: laurel on October 20, 2006, 08:47:47 pm
I just discovered this thread, and I love it!  RL has been keeping me away from Bettermost lately, so when I had some free time today, I got a pleasant surprise.  I read all of the thread's pages at once.  You guys are hysterical!  I am absolutely in love with SOG, so I hope I am able to hang out here a lot!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 21, 2006, 11:14:15 pm
I just had the weirdest dream about Jack's tattoo  ::)  And now I can't sleep anymore

I'd love a visual for that tattoo.....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 21, 2006, 11:27:20 pm
I just had the weirdest dream about Jack's tattoo  ::)  And now I can't sleep anymore

I'd love a visual for that tattoo.....

Oh man, no joke... if we could get one of the resident artists to make a fan art of Jack's tatoo then photoshop it to a pic of Jake, I think I may just die! The scene where Jack first shows Ennis that tatoo is still one of my favorite scenes, and I also love where Ennis licks it, claiming Jack as his... *sigh*

Shit June, you've got me all flustered now, LOL  ::) I think I may have to make it a Shades night...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 21, 2006, 11:37:39 pm
Oh man, no joke... if we could get one of the resident artists to make a fan art of Jack's tatoo then photoshop it to a pic of Jake, I think I may just die! The scene where Jack first shows Ennis that tatoo is still one of my favorite scenes, and I also love where Ennis licks it, claiming Jack as his... *sigh*

Shit June, you've got me all flustered now, LOL  ::) I think I may have to make it a Shades night...

Heh heh, why do you think I can't sleep anymore? LOL

I've just been googling pics of tattoos like some crazy person  ::) it's 5:30 am here  ::)

I'd be dead too if we ever got to see a visual like that.......oh yeah, where Ennis licks it....definitely part of my dream. I think I'll stop re-reading Shades so much.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 21, 2006, 11:48:44 pm
Unfortunately Madrigal also showed up in my dream, well, it turned into a nightmare when he did and woke me up! Shit!  ;D

This is what he looked like in my nightmare. It's from Scarface. And I'm talking about the darkhaired guy on the left with the striped jacket and gold chains. I imagine Hinestroza to look like the Miami druglord in this movie but I can't find a pic of him.


(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h113/Straluma/Madrigal.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 22, 2006, 12:06:16 am
Unfortunately Madrigal also showed up in my dream, well, it turned into a nightmare when he did and woke me up! Shit!  ;D

This is what he looked like in my nightmare. It's from Scarface. And I'm talking about the darkhaired guy on the left with the striped jacket and gold chains. I imagine Hinestroza to look like the Miami druglord in this movie but I can't find a pic of him.

Jesus - I desperately need to go back to sleep now  ::)


(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h113/Straluma/Madrigal.jpg)


5:30? That's early! It's 11 at night here...

That Madrigal is perfect, exactly what I had in my head. When I saw that pic, I pictured that part where he chases Jack down the fire escape then tips his gun to him. Yikes, not a good picture. I can see how that would make you want to wake up, LOL.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 22, 2006, 12:13:27 am
Yeah, I've had that visual of Madrigal in my head from the very first time I read about him. He totally spoilt my beautiful dream  :D because he did much more than tip his gun at Jack  :'(

Oh man, I really need to get a grip  ::)

It's all your fault Amy!  ;D

 :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 22, 2006, 06:35:50 am
Now you guys made me read the end of chapter 4 again... *sigh*

I found this sentence striking in retrospect:

Jack wanted to discover how that blond hair felt against his fingers, was curious to see if lust would ease the strict rein Ennis kept on his tongue.

Well the lust really did ease that, didn't it?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 22, 2006, 06:58:21 am
I did a half-hearted google the other day looking for a suitable snake tattoo, but couldn't find one which fitted...the colours and shapes thing, plenty of snakes though!

What I have come across is a gay pic where one of the guys has a barbed wire tattoo on his arm (although it may be the wrong arm). I might try another manip since people were so kind about the first one.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on October 22, 2006, 07:03:49 am
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Well the lust really did ease that, didn't it?

 :P :P

*gulp*


It sure did. And how. Sends the heartrate skyrocketing, just being reminded. "Painted skin".... Amy's got a unique way with words and images.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 22, 2006, 07:14:05 am
I might try another manip since people were so kind about the first one.

Oh, I wish you would H. That would be great 

I love all the artwork you've done for Shades  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 22, 2006, 09:27:28 am
another manip? YES please!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 22, 2006, 09:51:59 am
Oh yeah, Helen, bring on the manips!  LOL.  And hi, Laurel!  *waves*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on October 23, 2006, 12:07:15 pm
So it's four full days since the latest update. Which means this is when I start checking and re-checking compulsively for the next one.  ::)  ::)

I think you've really spoiled me with the frequent updates, Amy.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 23, 2006, 12:27:47 pm
So it's four full days since the latest update. Which means this is when I start checking and re-checking compulsively for the next one.  ::)  ::)

I think you've really spoiled me with the frequent updates, Amy.

It might be a week in between this time, I hate to say.  Chapter Ten will be up by Thursday morning, for sure, but maybe not before that.  This weekend I had RL stuff eating away at my time and Chapter Ten has one section that I'm struggling with!  Sorry!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 23, 2006, 01:33:59 pm
I'm usually chomping at the bit by Tuesday...

I've got a real sense of peace and love from that last chapter.  Finally their minds were at rest when they made love and fell asleep together.  Things may get difficult for them in the future, but at least they've had this...something that transcended sex.  Nothing spoiled it in their minds, I don't think.

They deserved this...so much they are going to have to face later.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on October 23, 2006, 03:12:45 pm
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Things may get difficult for them in the future, but at least they've had this...

You're right! The longer the time till that next chapter, the longer the guys are allowed to experience their peaceful unmarred moment of artless, charmed happiness...... since that is where we left them.  :)


Thank you for letting us know your update plans, Amy. Looking forward to Thursday, you bet!

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 23, 2006, 04:38:27 pm
So, uhm... can you post it somewhat earlier, like the middle of the night for you, so that I can take it with me on the plane to England? Pretty please.... :-*

Joking, of course...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 23, 2006, 04:45:00 pm
You know what I also loved...the way the two of them knew they had a decision to make.  And both of them chose the other.  No more pretending. No going back.  Both knowing it was something serious that was about to begin. Or not.

And I'm so glad Ennis was able to be honest with himself. Knowing that he would be deluding himself if he tried to justify it by saying it was something they could contain within the apartment then walk away from.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 23, 2006, 04:54:06 pm
But I'm not sure Ennis has truly accepted what it all means, at this point.  I think there's still a part of him that thinks they can walk away when its over.  Or a part of him that hopes that, even though deep down he knows that's not the case....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 23, 2006, 05:42:30 pm
But I'm not sure Ennis has truly accepted what it all means, at this point.  I think there's still a part of him that thinks they can walk away when its over.  Or a part of him that hopes that, even though deep down he knows that's not the case....

When his inner voice was telling him that it was a one shot thing that he could walk away from, his own voice told him not to be stupid. I thought that he was admitting to himself then that it meant more than that, that he wouldn't be able just to leave.     :(

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 23, 2006, 05:48:20 pm
When his inner voice was telling him that it was a one shot thing that he could walk away from, his own voice told him not to be stupid. I thought that he was admitting to himself then that it meant more than that, that he wouldn't be able just to leave.     :(



No, it was his own voice telling him it was a one shot thing and his inner voice saying not to be stupid and he silenced the inner voice by opening the door......Ennis and his god damn voices!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 23, 2006, 06:12:18 pm
No, it was his own voice telling him it was a one shot thing and his inner voice saying not to be stupid and he silenced the inner voice by opening the door......Ennis and his god damn voices!!!  ;)

LOL yes...and now you've introduced Jack's voices too! 

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 23, 2006, 06:21:01 pm
LOL yes...and now you've introduced Jack's voices too! 



Oh, Jack's had voices from the beginning.  His just don't talk quite as much.   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 24, 2006, 04:48:13 am
Oh, Jack's had voices from the beginning.  His just don't talk quite as much.   ;)

I thought Jack's inner voices were pretty interesting too when they did speak up, he was thinking of how it would be to betray Ennis, but I think that would have been a way for him to be not as hurt if Ennis did not want to take a chance on him, I think that voice must be silenced now after this night. Ennis' inner voice however, seems very persistent. Do I make sense?
 
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 24, 2006, 05:03:05 am
Also, I think it will be interesting to read how Ennis will act when they wake up, because, as Jack was expecting, the lust did loosen that rein on his tongue, and he was almost using that cocky interrogation room voice that Jack also has but did not use. Is this the real Ennis? I am hopeful, because he did lie with him and hold Jack's hand, but still....

Do I still make sense? Well, it's early morning.... ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on October 24, 2006, 10:15:27 am
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Also, I think it will be interesting to read how Ennis will act when they wake up....

Well, I know this is not what you meant, but I know just exactly how I want him to act when they wake up......... :P :P  ;)  Not that it would bring the dramatic narrative onwards much, but there can never be enough of the way Amy writes J&E together, never enough.......

While waiting for the next update I went over to Amy's LJ and read all the reader comments to the last chapter. Kept grinning and nodding all the while, - sure agreed with all of the praise and the comments there. One little thing that I've been meaning to say and that I saw someone else mentioning too: When was there ever a character more aptly named than Madrigal? That name is just perfect. Chillingly poetic/sinister/creepy all at once. **shudders**
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on October 24, 2006, 10:19:09 am
It might be a week in between this time, I hate to say.  Chapter Ten will be up by Thursday morning, for sure, but maybe not before that.  This weekend I had RL stuff eating away at my time and Chapter Ten has one section that I'm struggling with!  Sorry!!

As long as it's got my donkey in it I don't mind.  ;)

Maybe you can work it into the 'morning after' scene  ;D  ;D

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 24, 2006, 10:52:06 am
Well, I know this is not what you meant, but I know just exactly how I want him to act when they wake up......... :P :P  ;)  Not that it would bring the dramatic narrative onwards much, but there can never be enough of the way Amy writes J&E together, never enough.......


 Agreed!  ;D

Quote
While waiting for the next update I went over to Amy's LJ and read all the reader comments to the last chapter. Kept grinning and nodding all the while, - sure agreed with all of the praise and the comments there. One little thing that I've been meaning to say and that I saw someone else mentioning too: When was there ever a character more aptly named than Madrigal? That name is just perfect. Chillingly poetic/sinister/creepy all at once. **shudders**

I always do that too. I love reading all the other comments. Do it with a few of my favourite fics  :)

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 24, 2006, 10:53:57 am
As long as it's got my donkey in it I don't mind.  ;)

Maybe you can work it into the 'morning after' scene  ;D  ;D

Karen

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 24, 2006, 11:57:34 am
You know, I  got the name Madrigal from an actual court case of a Colombian drug dealer.  I was searching through old court files when I started writing this story and that name just jumped out at me. I loved it!  It's soooo creepy and evil.   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 24, 2006, 12:05:23 pm
You know, I  got the name Madrigal from an actual court case of a Colombian drug dealer.  I was searching through old court files when I started writing this story and that name just jumped out at me. I loved it!  It's soooo creepy and evil.   ;)

I love Hinestroza as well. Love saying those two names out loud, pretty sick I guess LOL!  ::)

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 24, 2006, 12:21:33 pm
I love Hinestroza as well. Love saying those two names out loud, pretty sick I guess LOL!  ::)



Hinestroza I got from my own case.  He was the drug boss who hired my client to kill another dealer who'd been stealing from him. 
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 24, 2006, 12:25:56 pm
Hinestroza I got from my own case.  He was the drug boss who hired my client to kill another dealer who'd been stealing from him. 

 :o

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 24, 2006, 12:30:03 pm
Hinestroza I got from my own case.  He was the drug boss who hired my client to kill another dealer who'd been stealing from him. 

Oh yeah, Amy, I can remember you mentioning that now a long time ago. Wow, that makes Shades all the more real to me. You have so much RL experience to draw from.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 24, 2006, 12:34:30 pm
I'm so nervous about what Madrigal will do  :(  The last chapter ending was chilling  :(



Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 24, 2006, 12:40:47 pm
Oh yeah, Amy, I can remember you mentioning that now a long time ago. Wow, that makes Shades all the more real to me. You have so much RL experience to draw from.

Yeah, I do remember reading that too, I think that it was in an intro to the story.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 26, 2006, 10:25:49 am
Is today the day???  ;D  ::)

I hope so!

but I have to work... grrrrr....

Hoping I come home to a Shades surprise!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on October 26, 2006, 10:35:28 am

Hoping I come home to a Shades surprise!

It's exciting isn't it?  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 26, 2006, 10:51:49 am
I did my shopping this morning - no way I was going to be a sad dribbling mess all over the supermarket again!  And can't be long to go now....  *squee*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 26, 2006, 10:58:07 am
Hey, guys, Chapter Ten is up at  http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/6480.html  Hope you like it!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Summor on October 26, 2006, 11:19:26 am
Hey, guys, Chapter Ten is up at  http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/6480.html  Hope you like it!

Hey babe!  Hmmm...not sure when I can start quoting, because there are sooo many freakin incredible parts.  Hard decision...  Your story is completely in a league of its own...amazing.  I hope you can take it easy now *at least for one day*!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on October 26, 2006, 11:49:36 am
SPOLIER



Oh my god that was fantastic!!!

Ennis has nailed his colours to the mast with the lies that he has told to protect Jack, and there is no going back.

The escape from Madrigal was so exciting and took me by surprise. Him lying in wait for them to show themselves rather than bursting in upon them. I loved that Jack took control of the escape and that Ennis trusted him enough to do so, despite all his years of FBI training. They totally compliment each other.

As for the motel scene, I had been dreaming for something like that. That total abandonment in being safe and alive and together.

Have to go and read it again!

Thank you so much.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 26, 2006, 11:51:13 am
OMG!!  That was the most amazing chapter I've ever read in my life.  ithad absolutely EVERYTHING in it! 

And I'm a total wreck after reading it..

*THUNK*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 26, 2006, 12:06:08 pm
I'm glad you guys liked it!  Sorry, no stripping Helen, but you never know what might happen in 11!   ;)  P.S. I don't really have time to read any fics right now (*sob sob*) but I've been hearing the MOST amazing things about "This Is The Modern Way."  So when SoG is done, I'm on it! 
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 26, 2006, 03:56:01 pm
Hey Amy!

I LOVED it, didn't expect anything else. But I'm so drained now, I've seriously got the biggest pounding headache ever, that chase was so nerve wracking and of course that sick fuck isn't dead, like Jack said. God, Jack was so totally cool.....and that fast and furious sex at the end.....with the blood....amazing, I really don't know what else to say right now.

Just brilliant.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 26, 2006, 04:50:45 pm
oh my... I 'm going to read it right now!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 26, 2006, 05:36:01 pm
Hey Amy!

I LOVED it, didn't expect anything else. But I'm so drained now, I've seriously got the biggest pounding headache ever, that chase was so nerve wracking and of course that sick fuck isn't dead, like Jack said. God, Jack was so totally cool.....and that fast and furious sex at the end.....with the blood....amazing, I really don't know what else to say right now.

Just brilliant.

Oh my god, i'm right there with you. Jack was just amazing getting the two of them out of that situation that way. But I'm with Ennis, it's so sad to think of everything in his past that has forced him to be able to shut off fear like that.

This chapter was so great. That sex at the end... *thud*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 26, 2006, 06:18:28 pm
Yeah Mandy, I'm with you too, that's just so terribly sad  :(  This line really got to me, and all the other ones about his abuse; his father and all that stuff in prison - God, if I think about it too much I'll start crying  :'(:

Jack was no stranger to the metallic tang of terror; he knew how to be brave.

And wasn't it just soo sweet how determined Ennis was to protect Jack even more now. Lovely, just so lovely.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on October 26, 2006, 06:24:00 pm
So, how long will they be safe in that motel room? I'm guessing not for long. I'm sure we haven't heard the last of Madrigal, like Jack said  :(

Where to now? WP??

Wish they could be all cosy again in the apartment  :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 26, 2006, 07:25:47 pm

Wish they could be all cosy again in the apartment  :(

You guys have no idea how much I miss that apartment.  I almost cried when they had to leave!  It was always in the game plan that things would go this way...they couldn't stay there, they have to face their demons (internal and external) to move forward, but I hated to make them go.  Waaaah, I'm such a baby!   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 26, 2006, 11:11:46 pm
You guys have no idea how much I miss that apartment.  I almost cried when they had to leave!  It was always in the game plan that things would go this way...they couldn't stay there, they have to face their demons (internal and external) to move forward, but I hated to make them go.  Waaaah, I'm such a baby!   ;)

Oh I completley understand! It somehow makes it even more worth reading knowing how attached you are to a part of the story.

That apartment was kind of like their Brokeback, it is so sad that they had to leave it and so soon after they find out what they mean to each other  :'(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 27, 2006, 12:39:26 am
I miss the apartment too...I got a real pang of sadness when Ennis was thinking about it.  I can't even begin to imagine what's going to happen next.  I knew they had to leave for the story to go anywhere, but I'm worried about just exactly where it will go now. :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 30, 2006, 08:30:56 am
What can I add? That was a great chapter, Amy, yet again! I loved how glad Ennis was that they and especially Jack was still alive, it shows the passion that he feels towards him without him saying it. I also loved how Jack took control and how they worked together to find their way out of the situation alive. Your writing as always is so vivid and real and personal.

Can't wait for the next update...

Do you have many more chapters outlined? You wrote here that you were struggling with one part of chapter 10, which one was that?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 30, 2006, 09:14:36 am

Do you have many more chapters outlined? You wrote here that you were struggling with one part of chapter 10, which one was that?

I was struggling with the car chase, I've never written any "action" before so I  was nervous about it.  You know, I don't really outline.  I have probably one sentence written down for each chapter and the rest is just in my head and it all sort of comes out when I sit down to write.  I know approximately how many more chapters there are going to be but I'm not sure if I should tell readers or not.  I never know if it's a good thing or a bad thing to know how many chapters are left.

And I'm so sorry I didn't e-mail you the chapter before you went out of town!  I didn't have it quite done and was still tweaking.  Sorry!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: louisev on October 30, 2006, 09:18:22 am
One question I wasn't sure I dare ask, but I thought about it for a few days... if Ennis and Jack were really concerned about sexual safety, why did Ennis swallow?  Was he being impulsive?  Swallowing semen is a whole order of risk higher than anal sex without a condom.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 30, 2006, 09:22:45 am
You know, I don't really outline.  I have probably one sentence written down for each chapter and the rest is just in my head and it all sort of comes out when I sit down to write. 

And I'm so sorry I didn't e-mail you the chapter before you went out of town!  I didn't have it quite done and was still tweaking.  Sorry!

I never outline either when I write, I always play it by ear, and only have a very rough outline in my head, works best I think, but for continuity it is necessary sometimes.

Don't worry about not e-mailing me the chapter! I was able to read it when I got to England, thankfully I was able to get online! :)

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 30, 2006, 09:50:18 am
One question I wasn't sure I dare ask, but I thought about it for a few days... if Ennis and Jack were really concerned about sexual safety, why did Ennis swallow?  Was he being impulsive?  Swallowing semen is a whole order of risk higher than anal sex without a condom.

You know what, I wondered that too...not about it being a higher risk, just that if you're going for safe sex then it's not just anal penetration that you need to worry about.  I always think it strange that when commenters bring up the issue of safe sex in any fic no one ever seems to worry about blow jobs, just anal.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 30, 2006, 11:42:20 am
One question I wasn't sure I dare ask, but I thought about it for a few days... if Ennis and Jack were really concerned about sexual safety, why did Ennis swallow?  Was he being impulsive?  Swallowing semen is a whole order of risk higher than anal sex without a condom.

Well, they'd already established that Jack was clean by that point.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on October 30, 2006, 11:56:59 am
I love this story and am anxiously awaiting the next chapter. I usually have an outline in my head when I write. Right now I have two storylines going. Well one is kind of going nowhere and the other I just thought of yesterday, but have plenty of material I can pull out of my (cow)boy hat.

mvansand76: are you writing on LiveJournal? If so, under what name

I'm avoiding RL right now!!! But I gotta draw on my resources and battle on. Take care comrades. It's been an honor and a privedge talking with you. Hopefully I'll survive the battle and live on to carry on.

cc33 aka Leslie
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 30, 2006, 12:10:52 pm
mvansand76: are you writing on LiveJournal? If so, under what name

Hey Leslie,

I am planning on posting on my livejournal, yes! My livejournal is http://cikalakimimila.livejournal.com (http://cikalakimimila.livejournal.com). I studied journalism and creative writing in uni but haven't written in a while because of problems with my arm (RSI), but I am writing again, although right now still in Dutch (am taking a stab at BBM ff right now and planning to write a children's book). I plan on translating my own writing to English.

Oh I'm sorry, going off-topic again.... ;D

I'm avoiding RL right now!!! But I gotta draw on my resources and battle on. Take care comrades. It's been an honor and a privedge talking with you. Hopefully I'll survive the battle and live on to carry on.

RL as in Real Life? Hope you are OK...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 30, 2006, 12:43:48 pm
Well, they'd already established that Jack was clean by that point.

What about when Jack sucked Ennis?   I know the risk was low, but if you don't know about the person then there is a risk somewhere.

 I don't mean this to be pedantic, it just puzzles me that no one ever has any issues with cum swallowing.

And now I'm really wandering OT (but if those Dutch girls can do it, so can I! LOL).... there is always a feeling that condoms would be used for anal because of the risks, when I know that here in the UK at least plenty of men don't use condoms.  So it's not even realistic to always use a condom or to establish that both parties are "clean".  STDs of all kinds are getting to crazy levels here, so safe sex isn't always practiced.  If it was there wouldn't be increases in AIDs and HIV.

It's one of those things people seem to latch on to, as if fics should for some reason be promoting safe sex and not writing what really goes on. Or maybe people think that anal intercourse with a condom is what everyone does and that not to write that is unrealistic. 

Anyway, that is way OT for Shades.....a more pressing matter is this: where was the vaseline teasing that I was eagerly waiting for?  >:(   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 30, 2006, 02:45:22 pm
LOL, I ended up cutting out the Vaseline teasing part, Helen.  It didn't fit with what I had done on Ten.  It might resurface in a later chapter.

I feel like it's always a struggle between safe sex and realistic sex.  I mean, people do stupid things all the time when it comes to sex, I sometimes feel like when we try to be too safe we dilute the honesty of what really happens.  But at the same time, I understand that need to promote safe sex.  That's why I liked IIA, never had to worry about any of that.  LOL.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: louisev on October 30, 2006, 05:51:31 pm
Okay so now I am more confused.  If they had established Jack was clean, why use condoms at all?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 30, 2006, 05:54:44 pm
Okay so now I am more confused.  If they had established Jack was clean, why use condoms at all?

They didn't establish he was clean until after the sex but before Ennis gave him the blow job.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: louisev on October 30, 2006, 05:59:08 pm
Didn't they use condoms at the motel after the chase?  Wasn't that one of the few things Ennis said to make sure they took?  Am I misremembering?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on October 30, 2006, 06:40:03 pm
Didn't they use condoms at the motel after the chase?  Wasn't that one of the few things Ennis said to make sure they took?  Am I misremembering?

They didn't use them after the chase. Ennis said to take them so that the FBI agents who had to clean the room wouldn't find them, but after the chase things went really quickly and were very emotional so no condoms were used. That's what I remember anyway...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 30, 2006, 06:45:32 pm
No.  They took the condoms so that the people coming to clear the apartment wouldn't find them.

Ennis felt that to not use condoms (even after they ascertained that Jack was clean) would "mean" something...that it would be some kind of commitment to Jack, one that he didn't feel he could make.

However at the motel they didn't use condoms because (I think) they were each so thankful that the other was alive....thus Ennis shows his commitment to Jack (for that moment in time....the voices will no doubt be reappearing!).  Also they were in one hell of a fucking hurry to fuck!!


BUT - I think that unless they had a closed top wastebin in the bedroom (and even then maybe) the cleaners will find used condoms, not to mention a bed which hasn't been slept in and one which has been slept in by two people.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 30, 2006, 08:23:21 pm
You all are remembering correctly.  He was worried about the FBI people finding the condoms.  And no, they didn't use one at the motel.  No time for that!   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on October 30, 2006, 08:45:43 pm
Condom use instruction

(http://www.coolnurse.com/images/how_to_1.gif)
Rip
(http://www.coolnurse.com/images/how_to_2.gif)
Roll
(http://www.coolnurse.com/images/how_to_3.gif)
Remove
(http://www.coolnurse.com/images/how_to_4.gif)
Refuse

DO NOT USE oil-based lubricants with a condom. This means no Vaseline, hand lotion, or baby oil, they can create holes in latex. Water based lubricants such as KY jelly are what you use. KY comes in a cheaper generic form at most drug stores.

(Sorry I couldn't resist this illustration. I can remove it if it offends/bothers anyone.  8) cc33 )
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 30, 2006, 10:15:17 pm
Oh that's hilarious!

LOl LOL LOL

But you see what I mean about the open topped waste bin?  They're gonna be found out for sure!!   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on October 31, 2006, 12:27:05 am
You can flush them... ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on October 31, 2006, 02:53:55 pm
Are we going to be seeing Vulnerable!Ennis soon I wonder....   






(AKA Bottom!Ennis)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on October 31, 2006, 02:59:08 pm
But you see what I mean about the open topped waste bin?  They're gonna be found out for sure!!   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I was thinking the exact same thing!!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 01, 2006, 10:03:52 am
Are we going to be seeing Vulnerable!Ennis soon I wonder....   






(AKA Bottom!Ennis)

Well...you've already seen some vulnerable Ennis in this story and I honestly get kind of tired of bottom!Ennis being the way to show he's changed or is vulnerable.  I did it in IIA, but I'm not sure I'll do it in SoG.  Sorry!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 01, 2006, 10:18:36 am
*cries*


But, yeah, you're right!   ;D ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 01, 2006, 11:50:56 am
I know...people are going to hate me if I don't do bottom!Ennis in SoG....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 01, 2006, 12:07:37 pm
I know...people are going to hate me if I don't do bottom!Ennis in SoG....

Noooooo, as long as you give us some more of Vulnerable Ennis....

 :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 01, 2006, 12:33:00 pm
I know...people are going to hate me if I don't do bottom!Ennis in SoG....

Well, forget the vulnerable part....just get him really assertive and aggressive about it!    ;)

"Just give it to me, Jack!"       *faints*   A bit like the gun, but this time he gets what he wants.  LOL (I think I'm going crazy...)


And really, how could anyone hate you?   ???
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 01, 2006, 12:37:29 pm
No wait.....that needs a little editing...



"Just give it to me, Jack!"

Are you crazy Ennis?  What are you saying?


 ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 01, 2006, 01:48:01 pm
LOL, Helen....I'll keep all that in mind.  By the way, I'm hoping to post sometime tomorrow but Halloween kind of got me off my schedule, so it might be Friday. I'll let you guys know.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: laurel on November 02, 2006, 03:11:37 am
BUT - I think that unless they had a closed top wastebin in the bedroom (and even then maybe) the cleaners will find used condoms, not to mention a bed which hasn't been slept in and one which has been slept in by two people.

This is so funny.  I was worried about the same thing.  Here we have a fantastic fic, with incredibly hot sex, attempted murder, car chases, etc., and we're worried about used condom disposal!!! ::) I thought maybe there was a dumpster somewhere in the apartment building or on the grounds, where they could get rid of the evidence themselves, before the cleaning crew arrived.  I didn't realize they could be flushed!! ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 02, 2006, 06:12:23 am
LOL, Helen....I'll keep all that in mind.  By the way, I'm hoping to post sometime tomorrow but Halloween kind of got me off my schedule, so it might be Friday. I'll let you guys know.

OH God Amy, I SO SO SO hope it's today!!! Thursday is just, well.....Shades day!  :D

No pressure of course, heh heh  ::)

 :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: louisev on November 02, 2006, 06:38:44 am
It doesn't matter what fic it's in - Helen has a lust for Bottom!Ennis that is unslakable.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 02, 2006, 07:07:40 am
It doesn't matter what fic it's in - Helen has a lust for Bottom!Ennis that is unslakable.

Hahahaha ~ SO true Louise, how long was she on your case for your Bottom!Ennis! Oh man....! LOL
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 02, 2006, 07:11:24 am
Hahahaha ~ SO true Louise, how long was she on your case for your Bottom!Ennis! Oh man....! LOL


And it was so good when it did happen!   *sigh*

You know, haha, I wouldn't mind if Shades were tomorrow, at least I'd be able to have an uneventful shopping trip!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 02, 2006, 07:22:42 am

And it was so good when it did happen!   *sigh*

You know, haha, I wouldn't mind if Shades were tomorrow, at least I'd be able to have an uneventful shopping trip!

Hahaha H! but NO NO NO ~ just go and do your shopping now!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 02, 2006, 07:26:00 am

And it was so good when it did happen!   *sigh*

You know, haha, I wouldn't mind if Shades were tomorrow, at least I'd be able to have an uneventful shopping trip!

No! It HAS to be today!!!  ;D

Anybody think there will be something about Alma in this chapter? Do you think she will be worried by now and calling Ennis on his cell phone? I don't know...do we want to read about Alma?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 02, 2006, 07:37:49 am
No! It HAS to be today!!!  ;D

Anybody think there will be something about Alma in this chapter? Do you think she will be worried by now and calling Ennis on his cell phone? I don't know...do we want to read about Alma?

Yep Mel! TODAY lol

Well, she has to pop up sometime, can't just forget about her, lol but I don't really really want to read about her  ;D  Although Amy did do a really good job in writing her  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 02, 2006, 07:59:32 am
Hahaha H! but NO NO NO ~ just go and do your shopping now!!


Christ, I haven't even started thinking about the recipes yet, let alone doing my shopping list or actually venturing out to the new, improved Waitrose!  And my mother's on my case as well...she was pleading with me to make sure we went in early afternoon...

Hmmmm....is she secretly reading Shades, too?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 02, 2006, 10:14:19 am
Quote
Hmmmm....is she secretly reading Shades, too?
 
 


LOL that would be amazing!

I had that thought the other day, I was talking to someone and suddenly I thought, I wonder if they read BBM fan fiction? I think it has taken over my life...

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 02, 2006, 11:23:10 am

Christ, I haven't even started thinking about the recipes yet, let alone doing my shopping list or actually venturing out to the new, improved Waitrose!  And my mother's on my case as well...she was pleading with me to make sure we went in early afternoon...

Hmmmm....is she secretly reading Shades, too?

OMFG ~ just got in after having done *my* shopping in the shitty pouring rain - YUCK - and nearly fell outta my chair reading this!! Just too funny  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 02, 2006, 11:47:17 am
OMFG ~ just got in after having done *my* shopping in the shitty pouring rain - YUCK - and nearly fell outta my chair reading this!! Just too funny  ;D

Oh is it raining in Rotterdam??? Here in Amsterdam it is still clear sky...
Poor you...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 02, 2006, 12:07:09 pm
Oh is it raining in Rotterdam??? Here in Amsterdam it is still clear sky...
Poor you...

Hi Mel  :)

Yeah, it's pouring with rain, has been all f*cking day and yesterday  :( Amsterdam must have had the stormy weather we had in Rotterdam the day before yesterday  ???
So are you all settled at home now?? Ready for Shades (and Dreaming!!!) which might not even update today!  :D  :'(

I just made myself some nice hot chocolate YUM!

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 02, 2006, 12:23:25 pm
Hi Mel  :)

Yeah, it's pouring with rain, has been all f*cking day and yesterday  :( Amsterdam must have had the stormy weather we had in Rotterdam the day before yesterday  ???
So are you all settled at home now?? Ready for Shades (and Dreaming!!!) which might not even update today!  :D  :'(

I just made myself some nice hot chocolate YUM!

Oh I'm sorry to hear that... :(

No, I am at work still, working on a very difficult translation and I cannot wait to go home and sit on the couch with that nice hot chocolate that you are talking about!

Will Dreaming also update? I thought that was Sunday?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 02, 2006, 12:39:20 pm
Hey guys, Chapter 11 is up at http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/6731.html   Hope you like it!   ;)

Oh, and Cath told me she's hoping to get the new chapter of Dreaming up later today!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 02, 2006, 12:49:42 pm
Hey guys, Chapter 11 is up at http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/6731.html   Hope you like it!   ;)

Oh, and Cath told me she's hoping to get the new chapter of Dreaming up later today!

I LOOOOOOOOOVE YOU AMY!!! I was so scared you might not update today!!!!!!!!!!  :-*  :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 02, 2006, 01:22:22 pm
That was an emotional chapter. 

*sigh*


I feel drained

 :-\
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 02, 2006, 01:29:25 pm
I know...sorry!  I wish it had been happier...I have a feeling it's going to be a rocky road from here on out. :-\
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 02, 2006, 02:04:40 pm
I know...sorry!  I wish it had been happier...I have a feeling it's going to be a rocky road from here on out. :-\

*SPOILERS*


It made me cry.  I didn't even tear up when I read Widower, and that chapter is only the third thing that's made me *really* cry in BBM fics.  One was a poem Sheera wrote, and the other was that awful chapter of SN when they were coming back from FW.  I hope never to read anything that leaves me sobbing and hysterical like SN did right then.

I feel so desperate for them; Jack admitting that he loves Ennis, and Ennis just about managing to stop himself sobbing all over Jack.  But only just.  God, they know how they feel, and they know how the other feels.  No words needed, really.  How on earth will they be able to get away from both Madrigal and Hinestroza.  Having both of them dead seems a bit improbable, so J and E will be forever looking over their shoulders.

I'm glad that Alma found out.  I also think Colin is having serious thoughts about what's going on.  I wonder if he has already considered the possibility that they are having some kind of affair, but dismissed it as being too fantastical.  But, like Ennis, he is a man trained to find the truth, so I think his gut won't be too far off the mark.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 02, 2006, 02:26:22 pm
I know...sorry!  I wish it had been happier...I have a feeling it's going to be a rocky road from here on out. :-\

I just can't even think how they are going to stay together?? What with Jack moving into WP :(  :(

So he'll move into WP and testify against Hinestroza while in WP? Is that possible? OH God Amy, I wish I knew all of this.

I'm so sad too. I don't know what to think. And yeah H, I feel totally drained.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 02, 2006, 02:38:30 pm
Oh, I feel so bad now....I was depressed all week writing the chapter, if that makes you feel any better.  ;)

I can't really answer anything without giving away what's coming...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 02, 2006, 03:00:56 pm
Oh, I feel so bad now....I was depressed all week writing the chapter, if that makes you feel any better.  ;)

I can't really answer anything without giving away what's coming...

Awwww Amy, don't feel bad  :(  And no, that doesn't make me feel any better  :( Feeling depressed is just totally crap  :(

I just want them to be together and it's frustrating and saddening not knowing how and what. They love each other so much. And of course you can't answer any of my questions, I get that  :) I  think you are so amazing being able to write this brilliant fic that has so so many people completely captivated  :) OMG - your Jack and Ennis just rip my heart out.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 02, 2006, 04:19:34 pm
I  think you are so amazing being able to write this brilliant fic that has so so many people completely captivated  :) OMG - your Jack and Ennis just rip my heart out.

I totally agree! Just like in IIA, your Jack and Ennis are such strong and vivid characters, they really do come alive through their interactions and the dialogue!

I was murmuring "no, no, no" at the end of the chapter, how Ennis was hoping he would find something out about Jack that would make it easier for him to leave him, god, that tore out my heart and shred it to pieces! I love how Ennis doesn't seem to be able to hold back his emotions with Jack and how they admitted to each other how jealous they were.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 02, 2006, 05:59:30 pm
OMG - I just had this wild and terrible thought after reading the update again and reading this line:

Jack’s soul-deep love for another human being the last remaining trump card Hinestroza didn’t hold.

But what if Madrigal grabs Ennis?? He's seen him, knows what he looks like, omg and by doing this forcing Jack out of hiding.....I don't know how word would get to Jack if he's in WP and this probably wont happen cause I totally suck at speculating but I got so frightened all of a sudden  :( I hope this wont happen because it's so OTT but I'm just scared  :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 02, 2006, 06:02:15 pm
June, what's OTT?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 02, 2006, 06:03:24 pm
June, what's OTT?

LOL - Over The Top  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 02, 2006, 06:55:14 pm
Duh....I'm having a slow brain day!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 02, 2006, 06:59:19 pm
OMG - I just had this wild and terrible thought after reading the update again and reading this line:

Jack’s soul-deep love for another human being the last remaining trump card Hinestroza didn’t hold.

But what if Madrigal grabs Ennis?? He's seen him, knows what he looks like, omg and by doing this forcing Jack out of hiding.....I don't know how word would get to Jack if he's in WP and this probably wont happen cause I totally suck at speculating but I got so frightened all of a sudden  :( I hope this wont happen because it's so OTT but I'm just scared  :(


oh man June thats exactly what I thought when i read that line and I was seriously distressed through the whole chapter thinking that Madrigal was going to barge in on them or something... or when Ennis was waiting outside for Colin I though for sure Madrigal would get him. God, that's what I've been nervous about through this whole story is that what if Madrigal or Hinestroza finds out what Ennis means to Jack or finds them while they are in bed together... the thought that he would use Jack's love for Ennis... ok, I'm babbling like an idiot now. This chapter killed me, I love it!

Quote
how Ennis was hoping he would find something out about Jack that would make it easier for him to leave him, god, that tore out my heart and shred it to pieces

Right there with you... there was so much sweet in this chapter, but so much sad too.  :'(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 02, 2006, 07:23:21 pm
Duh....I'm having a slow brain day!  :D

Heh heh ~ who can blame you after writing *that* chapter!!  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 02, 2006, 07:25:58 pm
oh man June thats exactly what I thought when i read that line and I was seriously distressed through the whole chapter thinking that Madrigal was going to barge in on them or something... or when Ennis was waiting outside for Colin I though for sure Madrigal would get him. God, that's what I've been nervous about through this whole story is that what if Madrigal or Hinestroza finds out what Ennis means to Jack or finds them while they are in bed together... the thought that he would use Jack's love for Ennis... ok, I'm babbling like an idiot now. This chapter killed me, I love it!



OH God Mandy, I hope all of this is totally crazy because now I'm really scared  :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 02, 2006, 07:28:27 pm
God, I am so loving this story.

I know that not all tales have happy endings (just consider the reason we're all here), but I really want this one to end happily.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 02, 2006, 07:46:26 pm
OH God Mandy, I hope all of this is totally crazy because now I'm really scared  :(

Sorry, didn't mean to scare you  :-\ I scared myself, too...  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 02, 2006, 08:13:14 pm
Sorry, didn't mean to scare you  :-\ I scared myself, too...  ;)

That's alright Mandy  :)

We're just scaring each other!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 02, 2006, 08:53:20 pm
How amazing was this chapter? Beautiful and sad, just like BBM. I am just beyond words.... Thanks, Amy.

cc33 / Leslie
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: magicmountain on November 03, 2006, 04:36:10 am
This story gets better and better - it's like a whole new exploration!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 03, 2006, 07:58:37 am
That's alright Mandy  :)

We're just scaring each other!  :D

Now I'm scared too....

 :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 03, 2006, 08:25:54 am
Now I'm scared too....

 :(

Oh crap Mel, it's most probably not gonna happen anyway!  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 03, 2006, 08:31:52 am
Well, something like it definitely is going to happen, I don't think Amy put that sentence there just for fun!  ;)

Oh I am really worried just like you, but we need to hold on to the fact that we were promised a happy ending!

Are you more happy with the Rotterdam-weather today?

Oh no, I just looked on buienradar.nl and there is a huge raincloud over R'dam! It must be pouring over there.

 >:(

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 03, 2006, 09:21:28 am
Well, something like it definitely is going to happen, I don't think Amy put that sentence there just for fun!  ;)

Oh I am really worried just like you, but we need to hold on to the fact that we were promised a happy ending!

Are you more happy with the Rotterdam-weather today?

Oh no, I just looked on buienradar.nl and there is a huge raincloud over R'dam! It must be pouring over there.

 >:(



Yeah, happy but not the fairy tale kind of happiness.......

It's still pouring, on and off  :(

Buienradar.nl, heb ik nog nooit van gehoord!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 03, 2006, 09:40:55 am
Yeah, happy but not the fairy tale kind of happiness.......

It's still pouring, on and off  :(

Buienradar.nl, heb ik nog nooit van gehoord!

Exactly, that would be boring. We just need to know that they have everything they need, meaning they have each other.

I am so glad Amy updates regularly...

www.buienradar.nl (http://www.buienradar.nl)

Heel handig voor als je de deur uit moet, maar niet weet of het gaat regenen... ;) Kunnen we lekker klagen over het weer, als echte Nederlanders...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 03, 2006, 09:47:15 am
Exactly, that would be boring. We just need to know that they have everything they need, meaning they have each other.

I am so glad Amy updates regularly...

www.buienradar.nl (http://www.buienradar.nl)

Heel handig voor als je de deur uit moet, maar niet weet of het gaat regenen... ;) Kunnen we lekker klagen over het weer, als echte Nederlanders...

Hahaha, ja, dat kunnen wij heel goed heh? We hebben de hele zomer al geklaagd dat het te heet was en nu gaan we lekker klagend de winter in  ::) Ik kijk altijd op Teletekst

I don't think it would be boring, Mel. I'd love it  :) But I have no idea what kind of happy end Amy has planned for us.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 03, 2006, 10:02:40 am
I don't think it would be boring, Mel. I'd love it  :) But I have no idea what kind of happy end Amy has planned for us.

I think the they lived happily ever after kind of happy ending on a pink (no pun intended) cloud would be! But I am quite sure she does not have that planned. They would still have a lot of things to work out together... But at least they love each other, I really got that out of this last chapter, even though it was very angsty...

Klagen hoort gewoon bij ons. En jij bent ook nog Engels, en die hebben ook heel vaak slecht weer!  ;) Oh Buienradar is beter dan Teletekst!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 03, 2006, 10:05:58 am
OMG - I just had this wild and terrible thought after reading the update again and reading this line:

Jack’s soul-deep love for another human being the last remaining trump card Hinestroza didn’t hold.




Okay, I guess it's all right for me to tell you a little about this line, since I already responded to someone's LJ comment asking whether this was foreshadowing...it is.  But probably not in the way you think....

I know that doesn't help at all, does it?   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 03, 2006, 10:13:28 am
Okay, I guess it's all right for me to tell you a little about this line, since I already responded to someone's LJ comment asking whether this was foreshadowing...it is.  But probably not in the way you think....

I know that doesn't help at all, does it?   ;)

No, it doesn't, but I am glad it doesn't because I want to be surprised... Uhm... no more speculating... ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 03, 2006, 10:16:12 am
Okay, I guess it's all right for me to tell you a little about this line, since I already responded to someone's LJ comment asking whether this was foreshadowing...it is.  But probably not in the way you think....

I know that doesn't help at all, does it?   ;)

LOL! No, not really.....confuses me even more, lol  Wish Helen was here, she's always so good in speculating on stuff like this!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 03, 2006, 11:21:04 am
I don't have anything profound to say except - do you think this looks like Jack in Shades of Grey ??
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/jake-gyllenhaal-3-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 03, 2006, 11:33:21 am
or this?
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/normal_a002.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 03, 2006, 11:35:59 am
OH I love that second pic but check out pages 1 and 2 for the other absolutely gorgeous HOT pics that have been posted for Shades Jack!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 03, 2006, 11:39:35 am
*Faints*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 03, 2006, 11:39:53 am
BTW ~ I love your avatar. It's great!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 03, 2006, 11:42:10 am
Why thank you! The avatar looks just like me !!  :laugh: 

I post my yummy Jake/Jack photos on the Jake Jake Jake thread. I have 2 more I'm going to post there today. -Leslie

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 03, 2006, 11:51:32 am
Why thank you! The avatar looks just like me !!  :laugh: 

I post my yummy Jake/Jack photos on the Jake Jake Jake thread. I have 2 more I'm going to post there today. -Leslie



I'm sure she does!! LOL!

I'll be sure to check them out. Somebody on LJ has that second pic as an avatar and it's just so gorgeous *SIGH*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 03, 2006, 11:57:19 am
I post my yummy Jake/Jack photos on the Jake Jake Jake thread. I have 2 more I'm going to post there today. -Leslie

Make sure you post the best ones here too!

 ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 03, 2006, 12:40:30 pm
or this?
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/normal_a002.jpg)

THIS ONE...definitely!  *faints*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 03, 2006, 12:47:02 pm
THIS ONE...definitely!  *faints*

*wipes saliva from chin*


My spec about Hinestroza and the soul-deep love thing is that Hinestroza isn't counting on Jack having someone that he cares about more than himself.  Since it's not what we're thinking (ie that Hinestroza finds out and uses the info) then I guess he doesn't ever find out, and indeed doesn't think Jack capable of that kind of love (is Hinestroza?)...therefore he underestimates Jack, because Jack now has Ennis.  Hinestroza, unknowingly, is up against both of them.

Their love being a trump card that will see them through.

*resumes drooling*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 03, 2006, 12:52:23 pm
Oh that's brilliant H. I knew you'd come up with something perfect.

*looks at Amy?*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 03, 2006, 12:54:34 pm
Oh that's brilliant H. I knew you'd come up with something perfect.

*looks at Amy?*

Yes well perfect and correct are usually two very different things.....

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Jesus, can you just imagine Ennis running his hands through that lush hair  MMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 03, 2006, 12:58:21 pm
Well I think you just might be right about all of it

Or sucking on that perfect lower lip........

*DIES*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 03, 2006, 01:02:41 pm
Are you guys TRYING to kill me here?  Now I'm going to HAVE to put a sex scene in the next chapter....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 03, 2006, 01:05:30 pm
Are you guys TRYING to kill me here?  Now I'm going to HAVE to put a sex scene in the next chapter....

OH YEAH Amy and with THAT pic in mind, doing those two things we mentioned and a WHOLE LOT MORE. But you don't need me telling you that!! OMFG ~ the way you write sex scenes.................
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 03, 2006, 01:22:54 pm
Are you guys TRYING to kill me here?  Now I'm going to HAVE to put a sex scene in the next chapter....

Excellent!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 03, 2006, 01:46:40 pm
Or maybe Hinestroza does find out but doesn't attach much weight to it...


Or maybe he finds out, realises how much Jack and Ennis love each other, comes over all soft because he's really a big ole teddy bear at heart, and arranges for them to disappear and live happily ever after......
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 03, 2006, 02:22:47 pm
 :laugh: LOL one_of_one - great happy ending!

mvansand76, I can only post the Jake photos that look like Jack here on the  SoG thread. I post a LOT of photos on Jake Jake Jake and if I double-posted, well, I would have even less of a life than I do now. LOL

Amy, I thought smex or at least kissing, was required in every chapter. LOL

Am I funny today or what?  ::)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 03, 2006, 02:27:20 pm
mvansand76, I can only post the Jake photos that look like Jack here on the  SoG thread. I post a LOT of photos on Jake Jake Jake and if I double-posted, well, I would have even less of a life than I do now. LOL

LOL  :laugh:

Well, I'll be happy if you only post the SOG-Jack-Jake pictures here, those are the hottest anyway!  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 03, 2006, 02:46:16 pm

Or maybe he finds out, realises how much Jack and Ennis love each other, comes over all soft because he's really a big ole teddy bear at heart, and arranges for them to disappear and live happily ever after......

Damn it!  I just knew one of you would figure out the ending.....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 03, 2006, 03:44:53 pm
Damn it!  I just knew one of you would figure out the ending.....

Oh well  :(  I may as well stop reading now  :-\




 ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 03, 2006, 04:32:49 pm

Am I funny today or what?  ::)

Hahaha ~ very!! LOL
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 03, 2006, 04:53:43 pm
Damn it!  I just knew one of you would figure out the ending.....


Yay! I love that ending...

June did you see the pic I put of Jake as SOG Jack over in my thread? You asked me if I had anymore so I posted it over there for some strange reason....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 03, 2006, 04:55:07 pm
SPOILER


I've just re-read the most recent chapter. Perfect way to spend a dull bus journey.

Noticed that when Colin told Ennis to take care he responded with "Yeah. We will". We, we, we!!!

That was a bit of a giveaway, and Colin's not stupid.

I'm also worried that Alma is going to cause trouble. I wonder what on earth kind of excuse Ennis fobbed her off with. Maybe he said that he's deep under cover and his persona is a gay character.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 03, 2006, 05:15:02 pm
Hey Karen, I noticed the "we" thing as well.  Also Ennis seemed a bit overprotective of Jack.  Colin already has a funny feeling about things so I wonder when the penny is going to drop.  I didn't like the way he says the Attorney wants "all her ducks in a row". :(  BANG! BANG! BANG! :(  Someone on LJ picked up on the Attorney getting involved before the Marshall which is out of the ordinary, too, so I wonder where that is going to lead us?

As for Alma....I was confused.  After she sees them together and Ennis tells her "nothing she believed": her response is quiet, he notes that she doesn't throw her ring back at him, but responds with "guilt and regret".  So why does Jack say later that Ennis will never be happy with her?  Does he believe that Ennis tried to fob Alma off and that things are still on between them? Is that what actually happened?  From the scene itself I got the impression that it was over.   ???


Helen :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 03, 2006, 05:30:54 pm
Helen, you're right to be confused about Alma.  On the one hand, she saw something that Ennis cannot explain away and she's heartbroken.  On the other hand, things were not resolved completely between Ennis and Alma.  It's all a confusing mess, just like everything else in Ennis's life at the moment.  When Jack says Ennis will never be happy with her, he's responding to Ennis's not knowing whether he wants to step back into that life.

As for the line about the U.S. Attorney...yeah, that's a hint.  But probably no one will ever get it, it's pretty obscure.  It will all become clear later.  It's just setting up something.  God...I feel like such a dork with all these "clues." 
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: louisev on November 03, 2006, 05:42:44 pm
after all, Ennis was squeezing Jack's nipples when Alma came in.  He wasn't helping him with his lactation problem!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 03, 2006, 05:44:35 pm

Yay! I love that ending...

June did you see the pic I put of Jake as SOG Jack over in my thread? You asked me if I had anymore so I posted it over there for some strange reason....

Oh fuck Mandy ~ I think I just died. Jesus. I want that one as an avatar!! Desperately  ::) It's too gorgeous
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 03, 2006, 05:45:57 pm
I made an avatar for it on my LJ, you're welcome to take it  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 03, 2006, 05:51:23 pm
Oh fuck Mandy ~ I think I just died. Jesus. I want that one as an avatar!! Desperately  ::) It's too gorgeous

Wait..where's this picture??
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 03, 2006, 06:07:03 pm
Here you go!


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/teena1013/jake/jakeew005.jpg)

this is what I think of everytime you mention Jack and his leather jacket (even though the jaket in the story is black...)  ::)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 03, 2006, 06:15:33 pm
Here you go!


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/teena1013/jake/jakeew005.jpg)

this is what I think of everytime you mention Jack and his leather jacket (even though the jaket in the story is black...)  ::)

*thud*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 03, 2006, 06:18:26 pm
OMG!

That is SOG Jack.

It is, isn't it?

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 03, 2006, 06:19:53 pm
*thud*

LOL that's the same reaction I had  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 03, 2006, 06:33:18 pm
I made an avatar for it on my LJ, you're welcome to take it  ;D

Really??

SQUEEEEEE!!!

Awww, thank you Mandy!  :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: laurel on November 03, 2006, 06:38:47 pm
This is hard to imagine, because he's so fucking gorgeous ALL THE TIME, but that photo still manages to raise the bar!  OMFG!  Thank you, Mandy!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 03, 2006, 07:01:54 pm
*tongue scrapes floor*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 03, 2006, 07:23:16 pm
** WARNING: Spoiler **



“What happened when you ran out of that stuff?”

Jack pondered how much to tell, figured he didn’t have anything to gain by lying. “I have a pretty face, Ennis,” Jack said evenly. “And I know how to use it.”

Ennis inhaled a sharp breath, glanced at Jack and then just as quickly away. “Was it always…consensual?”

Jack’s laughter was tinged with bitterness. “That’s not exactly the term I’d use. But yeah, most of the time it was.”

“Most of the time?” Ennis spoke as though the words were being dragged out of him, his voice only one step up from a whisper.

Jack closed his eyes. He’d gotten past all this. He had. He’d worked hard to put it behind him and move on. But it would be a lie to say he’d forgotten, or that he ever would. He still remembered—the sounds and the smells, the cut on his cheek from having his face pressed to the floor, and the bone-deep bruises they’d left on his arms that took a month to heal.

“It was prison, Ennis, not fucking Bible study,” Jack bit out, swallowing past the tremor he heard in his voice.
   -Shades of Grey by midwest_girl/Amy

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Jack_in_jail.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 03, 2006, 07:28:35 pm
OH man, wasn't that part just too sad  :(

And where did you get that brilliant pic?? OMFG!!! It's just too much....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 03, 2006, 07:30:48 pm
As for the line about the U.S. Attorney...yeah, that's a hint.  But probably no one will ever get it, it's pretty obscure.  It will all become clear later.  It's just setting up something.  God...I feel like such a dork with all these "clues." 

LOL, well I have no idea what that could be then, unless if the Attorney interviews him first and decides he's not suitable for the protection program for some reason. But that doesn't seem likely.  *sigh*

Or maybe it's something to do with Ennis being able to find Jack?  If he can't do it through the Marshal's Office, maybe he could do it via the US Attorney's somehow?  If there were some information left somewhere with the FBI, or that he might know about somehow?  Or if Jack had his interview with the Attorney who knew his new identity and Jack tells Ennis so he can find him later.

I need a lawyer!   ;D



Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 03, 2006, 07:31:55 pm
The pic's from Donnie Darko isn't it?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 03, 2006, 07:37:40 pm
hopefully this will help off-set the previous photo... (note black jacket!)

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/SofG2.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 03, 2006, 07:38:30 pm
he's responding to Ennis's not knowing whether he wants to step back into that life.

I thought he did know, that's why he shook his head.....but I guess that was just one of those head shakes that mean "what a fucking mess"  :-\

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 03, 2006, 07:39:52 pm
hopefully this will help off-set the previous photo... (note black jacket!)

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/SofG2.jpg)

Ohhh...GOD DAMN  *double thud*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 03, 2006, 07:40:40 pm
Yes, the photo of Jake with the knife-to-the-throat is from 'Donnie Darko' but it reminded me of the part in S of G when Jack is talking about his jail experience. If you go to www.iheartjake.com they have tons of photos.

OMG that photo of him in the black leather - I could barely post it - my screen fogged up from my heavy breathing ! cc33 / Leslie
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 03, 2006, 07:41:20 pm
God all these pictures!   You need to stop otherwise I'll die and won't get to know what happens!

Even worse, you might kill Amy, and no one will ever know!   :-\


*dribbles copiously at latest pic*


Jesus Ennis, what the fuck are you thinking about, even considering giving him up?!?!?!??!?!?!  You total fucking nutcase!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 03, 2006, 07:41:52 pm
Jesus Ennis, what the fuck are you thinking about, even considering giving him up?!?!?!??!?!?!  You total fucking nutcase!

LMAO!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 03, 2006, 07:42:27 pm
Ohhh...GOD DAMN  *double thud*

See what I mean!!!!   :-\
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 03, 2006, 07:43:20 pm
See what I mean!!!!   :-\

I'm still alive...barely.... ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 03, 2006, 07:43:56 pm
LMAO!!

Me too!!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 03, 2006, 07:45:50 pm

Jesus Ennis, what the fuck are you thinking about, even considering giving him up?!?!?!??!?!?!  You total fucking nutcase!

LOL!!!!  :laugh:

Amen to that!

God, he's lush! How can there be any conflict in Ennis's mind?

Seriously!!!

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 03, 2006, 07:46:44 pm
Yes, the photo of Jake with the knife-to-the-throat is from 'Donnie Darko' but it reminded me of the part in S of G when Jack is talking about his jail experience. If you go to www.iheartjake.com they have tons of photos.

OMG that photo of him in the black leather - I could barely post it - my screen fogged up from my heavy breathing ! cc33 / Leslie


*coughs*  Yes, um, I'm ever so slightly familiar with Iheartjake......  *tries to looks innocent*   *whistles* 

I thought my windows were steaming up because of the cold outside....but um....maybe not!   

*drools some more*

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 03, 2006, 07:48:23 pm
OH fuck H, your comments are cracking me up! You've got to stop! Seriously!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 03, 2006, 08:01:07 pm

*tries to looks innocent*   


Oh, I think it's waaaaay to late for that, Helen!   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 03, 2006, 08:17:20 pm
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Jack_in_jail2.jpg) Jack in jail.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 03, 2006, 08:19:23 pm
Jack in jail.

*licks screen*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 03, 2006, 08:22:31 pm
“I have a pretty face, Ennis,”   Jack said evenly. “And I know how to use it.”
  -Shades of Grey by midwest_girl/Amy

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/SofG3.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 03, 2006, 08:24:31 pm
When he's not on the lam, what kind of car does Jack drive?

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/SofG6.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 03, 2006, 08:26:11 pm
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/SofG5.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 03, 2006, 08:28:21 pm
Last one for tonight....
              ((( For cripes sake !! Somebody STOP me!!!!!  )))


(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/SofG4.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 03, 2006, 08:29:26 pm
Keep 'em coming Leslie!  I'm loving it!  ;D

I dont think it's ever been mentioned. We know he made good money, had a nice appartment, so I could see him drive a BMW. I think his friend Dane drove a Merc??
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 03, 2006, 08:30:52 pm

              ((( For cripes sake !! Somebody STOP me!!!!!  )))



I wont  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 03, 2006, 08:40:23 pm
When he's not on the lam, what kind of car does Jack drive?

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/SofG6.jpg)

You guys are going to think I'm crazy....but I really hate this picture.

It always reminds me of an episode of Columbo where the murderer drives past some kind of traffic camera, but he has a picture held up in front of his face so that it looks like the victim was driving at a particular time (and so the murderer couldn't have been the murderer).  And Columbo solves the case because the shadows were wrong.

I also hate the turtleneck.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 03, 2006, 08:41:30 pm
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/SofG5.jpg)


OOOH! I love this one! This is the original leather jacket one I found but then I couldn't find it again!!
You guys are going to think I'm crazy....but I really hate this picture.

It always reminds me of an episode of Columbo where the murderer drives past some kind of traffic camera, but he has a picture held up in front of his face so that it looks like the victim was driving at a particular time (and so the murderer couldn't have been the murderer).  And Columbo solves the case because the shadows were wrong.

I also hate the turtleneck.

Helen I hate that pic too... I kind of just laugh at it, he's beautiful but the vibe cracks me up!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 03, 2006, 08:46:47 pm
Well we know Jack isn't a murderer in the usual sense, but maybe he did hold up a photo to get by a traffic camera!? I happen to like that photo, despite the turtleneck, but I know what you mean. There are some photos I just don't like. There are of Jake soaking wet & making these - I don't know - kissy faces at the camera. It was too much but some people loved those photos & kept posting them. - L.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 03, 2006, 08:49:00 pm
Well we know Jack isn't a murderer in the usual sense, but maybe he did hold up a photo to get by a traffic camera!? I happen to like that photo, despite the turtleneck, but I know what you mean. There are some photos I just don't like. There are of Jake soaking wet & making these - I don't know - kissy faces at the camera. It was too much but some people loved those photos & kept posting them. - L.

Oh I hate those too....bleurgh!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 03, 2006, 08:53:54 pm
Well we know Jack isn't a murderer in the usual sense, but maybe he did hold up a photo to get by a traffic camera!? I happen to like that photo, despite the turtleneck, but I know what you mean. There are some photos I just don't like. There are of Jake soaking wet & making these - I don't know - kissy faces at the camera. It was too much but some people loved those photos & kept posting them. - L.

Those are my least favorite of him! I know what you mean there...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 03, 2006, 09:09:28 pm
I can't help it, I like the turtleneck pic.   :P
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 04, 2006, 05:41:18 am
I can't help it, I like the turtleneck pic.   :P

Well, that well and truly killed the convo!   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 04, 2006, 06:59:08 am
Last one for tonight....
              ((( For cripes sake !! Somebody STOP me!!!!!  )))

Why would we?

;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 04, 2006, 07:14:01 am
There are some photos I just don't like. There are of Jake soaking wet & making these - I don't know - kissy faces at the camera. It was too much but some people loved those photos & kept posting them. - L.

Oh God, I know what you mean, those kinds of pictures are just too much, they always make me wonder what he must be thinking at that exact moment, "Oh God, I Am So Embarassed" or something like that. I always wonder about that, what it must be like to have photographers tell you what to do, besides having to cope with photographers in the street taking pictures of you without you knowing.

I like the one that is also on Mandy's site, the one with the brown leather jacket, that's gorgeous.  :-*

You know that picture that was in Premiere magazine that came with the article about Jake, last November? That was such a lovely picture, all big smiles, no SOGJack, but wonderful nonetheless.


Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 04, 2006, 05:30:27 pm
         S of G Jack
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/SofG7.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 04, 2006, 06:02:14 pm

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/SofG8.jpg)(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/SofG9.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 04, 2006, 06:39:04 pm
Oh yes, yes yes.   I love you CC  :-*

I downloaded a couple today - let me upload and post them...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 04, 2006, 06:42:24 pm
Here are two during the throes of passion with Ennis.  The latter one reminds me of when Ennis pushes him up against the wall and sucks him off.

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/shades%20of%20grey/jaketopless1.jpg)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/shades%20of%20grey/jaketopless2.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 04, 2006, 06:43:52 pm
         S of G Jack
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/SofG7.jpg)

YUM!

Here are two during the throes of passion with Ennis.  The latter one reminds me of when Ennis pushes him up against the wall and sucks him off.

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/shades%20of%20grey/jaketopless1.jpg)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/shades%20of%20grey/jaketopless2.jpg)

Oh good lord, double yum.... I think I may have just passed out for a moment there  ::)

Keep em coming ladies!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 04, 2006, 06:44:00 pm
And this how Ennis imagines them meeting in the future....just catching a glimpse of each other across the courtroom, and this is how Jack looks at him....

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/shades%20of%20grey/jakesadsog.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 04, 2006, 07:11:22 pm
OH Jesus ladies ~ you are totally killing me here. OH H ~ that look on Jack's face, I can't stand to think of that moment, too sad....
Mmmm ~ I like thinking about Ennis sucking him off!  :o  and that's the perfect pic for it!  :P

Leslie ~ the one in the green t-shirt is how I like to see Jake the best ~ I just love guys in jeans and t-shirts, especially Jake. I think I still have one or two of him in t-shirts and jeans
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 04, 2006, 10:28:12 pm
Yeah, SoG Jack is definitely a jeans and t-shirt guy.  He's never worn anything else the entire story.  And those pics...holy crap!!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 04, 2006, 10:31:25 pm
Just when I thought I was getting a handle on my addiction, you girls encourage me to go find more photos!

Even tho' you're the author, Amy, I somehow picture Jack in a suit and tie. Maybe when meeting with the boss?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 04, 2006, 10:38:36 pm
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/sofgpool.jpg)

surely at some point they will be in a bar shootin pool, won't they?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 04, 2006, 10:45:58 pm
OH God, YES! I so hope so!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 04, 2006, 11:15:37 pm
To be honest, I don't think SoG Jack's ever worn a suit and tie.  But I like the pool picture!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 04, 2006, 11:16:00 pm
********** SPOILER ***************


“Hey, kid!” a voice called, low and bottomless—something almost subterranean in the sound.

Jack turned, holding up one hand to shield his eyes from the light reflecting off the black Town Car stopped behind him. The back window was rolled down part way, a slender column of smoke wafting out into the heat-shimmered air.

“Yeah?” he asked, annoyed. Couldn’t the idiot see the car wash line started at the other end of the building?

“Come here.”

Jack threw down his rag and walked over to the car, leaning over slightly to peer inside. He couldn’t see much, his sun-blind eyes worthless against the dark interior.

“What?” he asked impatiently.

A low chuckle from the back seat, the first of a million times that snake’s hiss would chill Jack’s blood.

“I have a job proposition for you.”

“I already have a job,” Jack said, pointing back towards the green sedan, but even he could recognize his half-hearted tone.

“Ahhh…my mistake. I thought you looked like someone interested in more than drying cars for a living.” The back window rolled up in near silence.

Jack stood there for a moment, debating what to do. His gut said to walk away, fast. Ortiz was gesturing to him and he’d be fired within minutes if he didn’t go back. But he hated this job, resented this life he’d carved from other people’s leftovers. The black car hadn’t yet moved—Jack took it as sign, reached out and tapped lightly on the window with his index finger.

The window stayed shut, but the door was pushed open by an unseen hand, a rush of frigid air blasting against Jack’s feverish cheeks.

“Get in,” the voice said, no room for disobedience.
  -Shades of Grey by midwest_girl/Amy

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/talkintome-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 04, 2006, 11:30:14 pm
To be honest, I don't think SoG Jack's ever worn a suit and tie.  But I like the pool picture!

I can't picture him in a suit and tie in my mind either.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 05, 2006, 12:03:20 am
**********   SPOILER *****************

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/10jaketux.jpg)Damn, if Lightning Flat could see him now. Jack “always been a fuck up, always will” Twist, in a two thousand dollar monkey suit, sipping expensive champagne. Granted, the tuxedo was on loan and Jack’s everyday life was more McDonald’s than filet mignon, but still, not bad…not bad at all.

“Jack.” A strong hand closed over Jack’s shoulder, claw-like in its boniness. “You enjoying yourself?”

Jack smiled, the happy, “I live to kiss your ass” one. “Having a great time, Mr. Hinestroza.”
  --Shades of Grey by Midwest_girl/Amy
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 05, 2006, 05:39:54 am
To be honest, I don't think SoG Jack's ever worn a suit and tie.

Damn, if Lightning Flat could see him now. Jack “always been a fuck up, always will” Twist, in a two thousand dollar monkey suit, sipping expensive champagne. Granted, the tuxedo was on loan and Jack’s everyday life was more McDonald’s than filet mignon, but still, not bad…not bad at all.

LOL, Amy, keep up with the story!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 05, 2006, 05:41:59 am
I love that pool picture too!  It was going to accompany a scene in MW, but in the end I only referred to them shooting pool obliquely.  Shame.  It's a nice visual.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 05, 2006, 05:49:52 am
And this how Ennis imagines them meeting in the future....just catching a glimpse of each other across the courtroom, and this is how Jack looks at him....

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/shades%20of%20grey/jakesadsog.jpg)

Oh, this one's great....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 05, 2006, 10:31:15 am
LOL, Amy, keep up with the story!

LMAO!  I forgot about the tuxedo.  I was thinking more along the lines of a business suit.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 05, 2006, 01:16:36 pm
LMAO!  I forgot about the tuxedo.  I was thinking more along the lines of a business suit.
**ahem**   ::)

If or when they go to court, Jack will need a suit.
He'll probably need to be talked into a black suit & tie
with a white shirt, but if he picked it out himself,
here's what I imagine.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Serious_in_Venice.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 05, 2006, 01:19:25 pm
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/red1.jpg) And now back to the "real" Jack, our bad boy.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/BadBoy_Jake_Bike.jpg)


Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 05, 2006, 01:29:27 pm
Oooooh Leslie,

*SIGH*

Sweet "bad boy" Jack....I needed to see that pic again.

 ::)


 ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 05, 2006, 01:38:46 pm

(http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1113.0;attach=6146;image)

Just needed to see this one again too....I'm REALLY obsessed with this one ~ thanks again Mandy  ;D




Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 05, 2006, 01:40:45 pm
Wish there were more of this series too....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 05, 2006, 02:44:35 pm
Just needed to see this one again too....I'm REALLY obsessed with this one ~ thanks again Mandy  ;D






No problem June  ;)

I have that one as my desktop on my computer  ::) My sister saw it the other day and almost fainted....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 05, 2006, 03:06:56 pm
I don't like that one of Jake! He looks like a pimp; I don't like the arrogant look on his face and it's not his dog.


Here's my current desktop:
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/98130xl.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 05, 2006, 04:00:49 pm
I don't like that one of Jake! He looks like a pimp; I don't like the arrogant look on his face and it's not his dog.

I love that one....it reminds me of SOG!Jack and his sneering ways he had of dealing with the Feds in the beginning.  Before he met Ennis and started to drop his tough facade.

Although I did crop the dog out of it.....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 05, 2006, 04:20:43 pm
I love that one....it reminds me of SOG!Jack and his sneering ways he had of dealing with the Feds in the beginning.  Before he met Ennis and started to drop his tough facade.

Although I did crop the dog out of it.....

That's exactly what I thought when I saw it! But I definitely see what you mean about that arrogant look on his face, Leslie!

I cropped the dog too... if it ain't Boo or Atticus, I don't need it  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 05, 2006, 04:34:25 pm
I cropped the dog too... if it ain't Boo or Atticus, I don't need it  ;)

His dog is called Boo? I call my boyfriend that (it's the nickname I gave him years ago)! 

:laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 05, 2006, 04:43:23 pm
Atticus Finch is the name of Jake's German Sheperd and Boo Radley is the Puggle. They are both characters from one of Jake's favorite books, "To Kill a Mockingbird" by Harper Lee. Both the book & the movie are good. Harper Lee was a friend of Truman Capote. Truman's character was called, "Dill."

Then there's Boo Boo Bear, but that's a whole 'nother thread.

Leslie
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 05, 2006, 05:08:43 pm
I love that one....it reminds me of SOG!Jack and his sneering ways he had of dealing with the Feds in the beginning.  Before he met Ennis and started to drop his tough facade.

Although I did crop the dog out of it.....

OH I love that one too. I love that arrogant look, love the pimpy white jacket, open shirt and chain. Love it because it's SO SOG!Jack in the beginning, like Helen said. I think that sexy "don't fuck with me" look is a total turn-on  ::)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 05, 2006, 05:10:52 pm
My sister saw it the other day and almost fainted....

I did too when you first posted it!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 05, 2006, 05:59:59 pm
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/SofG2.jpg)

This is the photo made me gasp, hyperventilate and faint.  :-*

There is only one thing for me to do and that is to reread the first couple of chapters when Jack is being arrogant although he's bleeding and in jail. -Leslie
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 05, 2006, 06:39:32 pm

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/teena1013/jake/jakeew005.jpg)

This is the pic that made my panties ignite!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 05, 2006, 06:52:11 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/teena1013/jake/jakeew005.jpg)

This is the pic that made my panties ignite!

LOL! That's one way of putting it  ::)

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 05, 2006, 09:54:33 pm
LOL! That's one way of putting it  ::)



Heh heh ~ yeah, I can think of so many other ways of putting it, lol but I'd better not post them here!! I need to go to bed  ::)

 ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 05, 2006, 11:36:19 pm
Dane & Jack
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/JackDane.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 06, 2006, 04:52:39 am
Who is that he is with?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 06, 2006, 09:11:52 am
Oh, we've already cast Dane...where is that picture again?  It's Christian Bale with long hair....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 06, 2006, 09:16:01 am
(http://pics.livejournal.com/baileymoyes/pic/0001b7p2/t9678z)

This is Dane.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 06, 2006, 09:19:47 am
OH Yes Amy!!!

He is SO HOT too ~ what the hell is it about guys with long hair, leather jackets and ciggies?!?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 06, 2006, 11:03:13 am
They are bad boys! That's why we love them, starting I guess with Marlon Brando in "Wild One" and James Dean in any of his 3 movies. I guess what I REALLY want to do is write my own story with photos - a picture book story.  :)  I love that B&W photo though with the guy lighting J's um,, lighting his cigarette. Okay it's Jack with another one of H's mules. ?  Or Jack on a date?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 06, 2006, 11:10:13 am
Who is that he is with?

I wondered that too... it looks like a young Gale Harold to me, but I know it isn't...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 06, 2006, 11:12:26 am
(http://pics.livejournal.com/baileymoyes/pic/0001b7p2/t9678z)

This is Dane.

Who can blame Jack for taking comfort in this while he waited for his Ennis to come along... *sigh*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 06, 2006, 11:23:58 am
Who can blame Jack for taking comfort in this while he waited for his Ennis to come along... *sigh*

I agree.....

Wow ~ wasn't this an intense part:

Dane grinned. “I think you misunderstood me. As it happens, Jack and I discovered we were good at more than talking. In Leavenworth and afterwards, too.” Dane wagged a finger in Ennis’s direction, a teacher chastising the errant schoolboy. “But that’s as much detail as you’re getting. I don’t kiss and tell.”

Ennis gritted his teeth, the fiery sting of Dane’s words making him want to reach across the table and smash his fist into that pretty face, bust open those lips that had kissed Jack’s more than once and probably never called it a mistake.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 06, 2006, 12:25:55 pm
*************    SPOILER    *******************

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/christian_bale_97.jpg)
But here Ennis was, having barely spoken five words to Dane Gentry, and already he hated his guts. . . . The man was just what Ennis had expected. Tough, cocky, over-confident. Dane’s demeanor wasn’t a temporary costume the way Jack’s was; this was the real man. His attitude worked well with his handsome face . . . Just being in the same room with Dane, the man who Jack had smiled at with such familiarity, started Ennis’s blood on a slow simmer.   -"Shades of Grey" by midwest_girl/Amy


Okay, am I more on-track now?? cc33
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 06, 2006, 12:41:07 pm
You know, I justcan't help but feel sorry for Dane....he fell in love with Jack but it wasn't reciprocated :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 06, 2006, 12:41:44 pm
I'm going to whisper...


I don't like men with long hair....not even Christian Bale

 :o

*Hides under the table*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 06, 2006, 01:17:07 pm
You know, I justcan't help but feel sorry for Dane....he fell in love with Jack but it wasn't reciprocated :(

I'm surprised how many people really like him, considering he's barely been in the story.  Someone asked me to write a one-shot about him once SoG is over.   :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 06, 2006, 02:28:05 pm
I'm going to whisper...


I don't like men with long hair....not even Christian Bale

 :o

*Hides under the table*


LOL, don't feel bad! Me neither really... I prefer him with short hair...


You know, I justcan't help but feel sorry for Dane....he fell in love with Jack but it wasn't reciprocated :(

I thought the same thing... poor guy, it'd be so easy to fall for someone like Jack, and so so hard to find out he doesn't feel the same...

I'd read a one shot about him, Amy! But, then again, I think I'd read anything you write...  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 06, 2006, 03:06:38 pm
I like hishair long in the first picture, because it's not so out of control.  The second pic it's a little shaggy!   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 06, 2006, 03:09:35 pm
I only like him that first pic Amy posted, otherwise I don't think he's particularly good looking.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 06, 2006, 04:03:54 pm
I'm surprised how many people really like him, considering he's barely been in the story.  Someone asked me to write a one-shot about him once SoG is over.   :D

I'd love to read it too  :D

And like Helen said, I really feel sorry for him too. I think I commented once that I felt he really really cared for Jack  :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 06, 2006, 04:14:23 pm
I like hishair long in the first picture, because it's not so out of control.  The second pic it's a little shaggy!   ;)

Yeah, despite my long hair thing, I actually really like him in that first picture... I find the cigarette kind of sexy too  ;)

I just watched him in Velvet Goldmine today and couldn't stop thinking about SOG  ::) You may have ruined me for everything else!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on November 07, 2006, 11:17:57 am
Everyone, I just wanted to say thank you all for the many pics posted here recently to illustrate SoG. So many pure gems!

Perhaps especially thank you to Leslie for all the ones you've ound posted, many of them are so perfect for illustrating the story.

I've got to say though that the following one probably is my favourite, especially after I read Helen's take on what exactly is going on here:  :P

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/shades%20of%20grey/jaketopless2.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 07, 2006, 12:42:44 pm

I've got to say though that the following one probably is my favourite, especially after I read Helen's take on what exactly is going on here:  :P


Gotta agree with you, I'll never be able to look at this pic anymore without thinking *that*  ::)


 ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 07, 2006, 12:59:46 pm
*SIGH*

I wish it was Thursday tomorrow.  I wonder what will happen and if it will be a sad chapter.....


Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 07, 2006, 01:00:37 pm
*SIGH*

I wish it was Thursday tomorrow.  I wonder what will happen and if it will be a sad chapter.....

I wish it was Thursday today!

 ;)

Still raining in Rotterdam?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 07, 2006, 02:14:12 pm
I wish it was Thursday today!

 ;)

Still raining in Rotterdam?
Yeah, even better Mel  :D

No! lol ~ but all of a sudden it's really cold, that nice crisp cold autumn weather  :) Lekker voor boswandelingen  :)
Is that you in your avatar Mel?  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 07, 2006, 03:04:39 pm


I've got to say though that the following one probably is my favourite, especially after I read Helen's take on what exactly is going on here:  :P

Gotta agree with you, I'll never be able to look at this pic anymore without thinking *that*  ::)

 ;D

I've got to say I've gotta agree with you! I liked that photo before, but I like it even more after....
cc33 / Leslie
ps thanks for acknowledging my photo obsession  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 07, 2006, 04:47:56 pm
No! lol ~ but all of a sudden it's really cold, that nice crisp cold autumn weather  :) Lekker voor boswandelingen  :)
Is that you in your avatar Mel?  :)

Yes, it was much colder today, wasn't it?! It's probably going to be 15 graden this week!  :o November!

Yep, that's me, my other avatar was also me, but this one was taken at De Zaansche Schans last weekend! See the windmill that I am almost completely blocking?  ;)  Lekker Hollands!

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 07, 2006, 05:21:59 pm
Yes, it was much colder today, wasn't it?! It's probably going to be 15 graden this week!  :o November!

Yep, that's me, my other avatar was also me, but this one was taken at De Zaansche Schans last weekend! See the windmill that I am almost completely blocking?  ;)  Lekker Hollands!



Thought that was a windmill. You changed the colour of your hair! It's nice  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 07, 2006, 05:48:16 pm
here's another attempt of Jack behind the wheel. Okay, so it's not a perfect fit but look at those eyelashes! (swoons)

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Which%20Jake/jake-gyllenhaal-024-img.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 07, 2006, 07:32:55 pm
here's another attempt of Jack behind the wheel. Okay, so it's not a perfect fit but look at those eyelashes! (swoons)

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Which%20Jake/jake-gyllenhaal-024-img.jpg)

oh young Jake! He's such a cutie, I can't even stand it  ::)

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 08, 2006, 07:41:17 am
Thought that was a windmill. You changed the colour of your hair! It's nice  :)

Thank you!  :) It's actually still blond, but I think it's blonder now because of the sun the past couple of months... ;)

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on November 08, 2006, 06:16:58 pm
So, in the middle of the US Election hustle and bustle, has there been any word from Amy concerning when the next chapter will go up? Will it be tomorrow? I'm suspecting this will be a really hot and emotional kicker and.... I ALMOST CAN'T WAIT!!  ::) 8) :) :P
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 08, 2006, 06:33:53 pm
So, in the middle of the US Election hustle and bustle, has there been any word from Amy concerning when the next chapter will go up? Will it be tomorrow? I'm suspecting this will be a really hot and emotional kicker and.... I ALMOST CAN'T WAIT!!  ::) 8) :) :P

Oh I know what you mean. It's some kind of sweet torture.

But I want the boys to be happy! Know we need some angst - but ultimate happiness please. Witness Protection putting Jack on a ranch or something. I know that it's a possible ending that they will have to be seperated, but that they will both know what real love is and will carry that with them - but hell, I want them to be together.

Probably because I've just watched The Good Girl.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 08, 2006, 06:34:37 pm
So, in the middle of the US Election hustle and bustle, has there been any word from Amy concerning when the next chapter will go up? Will it be tomorrow? I'm suspecting this will be a really hot and emotional kicker and.... I ALMOST CAN'T WAIT!!  ::) 8) :) :P

It usually goes up on Thursday and it's always a good sign when Amy starts answering her hundreds of LJ comments, lol which she has been doing. She's also said in her comments that we are up for some angsty sad chapters, which of course was to be expected  :(

 :'(  :'(  :'(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 08, 2006, 06:38:00 pm
I really think they are going to be apart for a while and I can hardly stand it and I just cant think how they will get together again if Jack goes into WP. I know they will because Amy has promised us some kind of happy ending. But how and what? I have no idea.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 08, 2006, 07:01:21 pm
It's going to be up tomorrow morning (Central Time)....and she said that she'd be putting up a warning about graphic violence....so I guess the full Ortiz thing is going to be revealed

*sad*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on November 08, 2006, 07:17:30 pm

**Equal parts anticipation and trepidation**




Thanks for letting us know, Helen!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 08, 2006, 07:52:51 pm
“Like I said, there’s not much to tell. I’d always thought about being a cop if I didn’t end up working on a ranch somewhere. When I was a senior in college they had this seminar about jobs in law enforcement and I picked up a brochure about the FBI.”

“And…,” Jack prompted when Ennis failed to continue.

“And I joined the local police force in Laramie after graduation, worked there for two years and then applied to the FBI. I got in and went to Quantico. My first assignment was in Minneapolis and then I got transferred here.”
  --Shades of Grey by midwest_girl/Amy

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/SofG_Ennis.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 08, 2006, 08:14:39 pm
Is this pic from Monsters Ball, Leslie?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 08, 2006, 08:16:53 pm
No, it's a photo of Ennis right after he graduated from the police academy in Laramie.

  --just kiddin'  ;) 

Yes, it's from Monster's Ball.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 08, 2006, 08:18:54 pm
The two men behind the mirror watched Jack without speaking, the taller one taking a step forward to get a better look. Up to this point, he’d only seen Jack Twist in photographs or through the gazing end of binoculars.  --Shades of Grey by midwest_girl/Amy

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/sofg10-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 08, 2006, 08:42:55 pm
The two men behind the mirror watched Jack without speaking, the taller one taking a step forward to get a better look. Up to this point, he’d only seen Jack Twist in photographs or through the gazing end of binoculars.  --Shades of Grey by midwest_girl/Amy

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/sofg10-1.jpg)

This is PERFECT!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: karen1129 on November 08, 2006, 08:46:08 pm
It's going to be up tomorrow morning (Central Time)....and she said that she'd be putting up a warning about graphic violence....so I guess the full Ortiz thing is going to be revealed

*sad*

SoG is going to be posted tomorrow ????   Yeah !
I'm a AU gal myself, but are 2 au/au's I've managed to get
interested in, and this is one of them.  Amy's writing always
draws me in. 


Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 08, 2006, 09:22:44 pm
Jack from "Shades of Grey" by midwest_girl/Amy

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/SofG_Jack2.jpg)

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 08, 2006, 11:28:44 pm
Jack from "Shades of Grey" by midwest_girl/Amy

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/SofG_Jack2.jpg)



I love this picture of him... That FBI file photo kills me, too! It is perfect!
It's going to be up tomorrow morning (Central Time)....and she said that she'd be putting up a warning about graphic violence....so I guess the full Ortiz thing is going to be revealed

*sad*

Did this make anyone else nervous?? I really hope the graphic violence is referring to Oritz...

Gah! Why do I have to work tomorrow??? I won't be able to read the update until I get home and that's at like 6 or 7 in the evening central time... maybe I should call in sick  :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 09, 2006, 12:14:27 am
Hi, guys.  I see Helen already warned you about the violence in tomorrow's chapter (thanks Helen  ;) ).  Maybe it won't be that hard for you to read, but I wanted to give everyone advance warning.   
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 09, 2006, 03:25:37 am
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/FBI3.jpg)

All right, obviously an "enhanced" photo montage that I put together because finding Heath in a conservative suit was next to impossible. When I did find him in a conservative suit, he was wearing sunglasses. Anyway here's Ennis the fed.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 09, 2006, 03:29:38 am
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/hl17g.jpg)
Secret F.B.I. file: special agent E. Del Mar, undercover
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 09, 2006, 04:31:23 am
Oh Leslie - those pics are awesome!   I love the FBI file one of Jack, and the BW one which looks like he is in prison...

Oh and the uniform one.... *drools copiously*

Mmmmm, uniforms.....mmmmm, handcuffs.....

*dribbles*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 09, 2006, 04:50:08 am
I agree with everybody else Leslie ~ your pictures are perfect! I too especially love the FBI file one, it's SO perfect and the BW one is SO SO sexy ~ I can't stop looking at his arms and his lips and just everything.....  ::)

Thanks! And pleeeeeease keep em coming!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 09, 2006, 04:51:29 am
maybe I should call in sick  :(

Good idea!!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 09, 2006, 05:45:39 am
Hi, guys.  I see Helen already warned you about the violence in tomorrow's chapter (thanks Helen  ;) ).  Maybe it won't be that hard for you to read, but I wanted to give everyone advance warning.   

I had problems with Lureen and her fingernails. :(

Also when Colin told Ennis that there were no dental or fingerprint records it took a while for me to realise that this was probably because he was an illegal immigrant and not.....well, you know....

*shivers*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on November 09, 2006, 07:24:19 am
A shades of grey thread...i'll be damned BetterMost is packed with great stuff. I Am IN for this fantastically good story!!!!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 09, 2006, 07:34:57 am
A shades of grey thread...i'll be damned BetterMost is packed with great stuff. I Am IN for this fantastically good story!!!!!

Hi  :)

Good to see you here  :)

I love this thread and this story too. Have you checked out all the great pics yet? YUM!!  ;D

Thursday is always Shades day cause that's when Amy updates and all of get all nervous and worried and excited!  ::)

 ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 09, 2006, 07:37:23 am
I had problems with Lureen and her fingernails. :(

Also when Colin told Ennis that there were no dental or fingerprint records it took a while for me to realise that this was probably because he was an illegal immigrant and not.....well, you know....

*shivers*

Ohhh H ~ you're really scaring me now..... :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 09, 2006, 07:51:58 am

Thursday is always Shades day cause that's when Amy updates and all of get all nervous and worried and excited!  ::)

 ;D

*Jumps up and down in front of computer*

Yippppeeeee!

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 09, 2006, 09:38:32 am
Today is the day  ;D

Morning all! Or I guess afternoon to some of you by now...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 09, 2006, 09:42:08 am
Today is the day  ;D

Morning all! Or I guess afternoon to some of you by now...

Afternoon Mandy!  ;D

I can hardly wait for it to come up!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 09, 2006, 10:49:49 am
I'm really apprehensive about this chapter, and not just because of the Ortiz thing.  I think they will probably split up this week....and if not they will be just about to separate by the end of the chapter.

Not looking forward to this in so many ways.  :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 09, 2006, 10:57:17 am
I'm really apprehensive about this chapter, and not just because of the Ortiz thing.  I think they will probably split up this week....and if not they will be just about to separate by the end of the chapter.

Not looking forward to this in so many ways.  :(

I know exactly what you mean H  :(  I just feel strangely weird right now, a bit sick actually  ::) SO looking forward to finding out what happens but then again really scared to  :(

*SIGH* this fic Amy has written....I can't believe how it gets to me. I actually plan my whole day around it on Thursday  ::)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 09, 2006, 11:05:26 am
*********slight spoiler*************

Del Mar looked good in a suit; Jack would give him that, the dark material highlighting his lanky frame. Jack had always liked men in suits, with their crisp shirts, shiny ties, and polished shoes cracking against the floor. Maybe because growing up on a ranch he’d never seen men dressed that way. Seemed like a better world than the one he’d come from. Sure as hell a step up from the one he lived in now. Men in suits gave the appearance of having made something of themselves, of being in control, inside and out—even if it was an illusion. Those men weren’t going to turn their lives into the kind of fucked up mess Jack’s had become.  --Shades of Grey by midwest_girl/Amy

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/FBI3.jpg)

(I was so tired last night I forgot to add the story quote.)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 09, 2006, 11:06:49 am
I was trying not to think about it and now you've all got me worried!

 :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 09, 2006, 11:09:41 am
I was trying not to think about it and now you've all got me worried!

 :(

Aw Mel ~ sorry!  *hugs*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 09, 2006, 11:26:45 am
Hey all

I see I'm not the only one feeling aprehensive about the upcoming chapter. We just know that the angst and unhappiness is coming. We have to get through it before any kind of resolution can be had, and we're not even sure what kind of resolution Amy has in mind!

Isn't it odd to be so looking forward to something, yet kind of dreading it too?  :-\

Karen

PS Am loving those Jack pictures. Especially the *ahem* up "against the wall" one (as it is now forever implanted in my mind)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 09, 2006, 11:27:49 am
Aw Mel ~ sorry!  *hugs*

 :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on November 09, 2006, 11:34:50 am
Quote
Thursday is always Shades day cause that's when Amy updates and all of get all nervous and worried and excited! 

Sure enough! And I admit to favouring a bit of angst as long as there is a happy resolution in the end, so..... yep. All impatient now!

**Hits the refresh button once more**


PS: Leslie, once more heaps of great pictures from you! Thank you. Especially like it that SoG  Ennis has started to be more visible in the thread, too.  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 09, 2006, 12:02:45 pm
Sure enough! And I admit to favouring a bit of angst as long as there is a happy resolution in the end, so..... yep. All impatient now!

**Hits the refresh button once more**


PS: Leslie, once more heaps of great pictures from you! Thank you. Especially like it that SoG  Ennis has started to be more visible in the thread, too.  :)

Aw yeah ~ you are so right! We had been neglecting poor Ennis!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 09, 2006, 12:16:13 pm
OKAY ~ don't know about all the rest of you....but I'm ready!  ;D

Bring it on Amy!  ;D


 :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 09, 2006, 12:19:55 pm
*nibble nibble nibble*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on November 09, 2006, 12:27:19 pm
........and it's up!

**Off to read!**
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 09, 2006, 12:32:52 pm
Hi guys.  Chapter 12 is up at http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/7166.html.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on November 09, 2006, 12:53:37 pm
**Deep breath**

Oh. My. God.

 :'(


You're such a wonderfully good writer Amy, always making your reader feel she's right there in the story. I'm quite shaken.

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 09, 2006, 01:58:41 pm
Same here Mikaela. I feel completely wiped out. I can't even talk about the warehouse scene atm. It's too much. I cant even begin to understand what Jack went through.

I just hurt so much for all their pain and guilt and confusion and harsh words and for what will happen to them now.

Their  lovemaking was incredibly beautiful. I cant believe how sad and loving it was. It made me cry. Their tears just did me in.

These were a few of my favourite lines:

“Jack, I—it’s more than this for me,” Ennis said urgently, his lips almost touching Jack’s, desperate for Jack to hear beyond his words. He clutched Jack’s hip tightly, fingers sinking into his skin. “It’s more than just this.”

Jack stopped moving, pulling Ennis’s hand up to his mouth to kiss his knuckles, run his tongue along Ennis’s palm. “I know,” he whispered. The tears that Jack had been fighting back all morning were overflowing now, running down the sides of his face to form uneven pools on the dingy white sheets.

“Aaah, god, Jack,” Ennis exhaled, catching Jack’s tears in his hand. They made love silently except for their low moans, the sounds of their bodies joining together. Ennis thrust steady and strong, wanting to make it good for Jack, wanting him to feel loved. Jack came quietly, a deep trembling sigh, spilling over into Ennis’s hand. Ennis wasn’t far behind, his own tears wetting Jack’s collarbone as he fell forward, his body shaking against Jack’s warm skin.


Oh Amy ~ you are just so so amazing. It blows me away.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 09, 2006, 02:33:13 pm
OH GOD ~ you wouldnt ever let Madrigal get to Jack or Ennis like that, would you Amy??  *cries*


 :'(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: katecaton on November 09, 2006, 03:28:07 pm
Another difficult but gripping chapter, and Ennis is beginning to let Jack know how he feels. Thought another pic might help us remember what Jack sees in Ennis!
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/katecaton/16676.jpg)

Thanks for more of this great story. I just can't imagine wjere you will go to next :o
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 09, 2006, 04:18:22 pm
I'm devastated... what an amazing chapter, how is it possible that you outdo yourself in every chapter you write, Amy? The scene in the warehouse was terrifying and nauseating, poor poor poor Jack for living with that guilt for all that time... I think Ennis is starting to realise that he can't pretend anymore that what is happening between them is a one shot thing, and poor Ennis is so scared about what that means. Oh poor them! 

OH GOD ~ you wouldnt ever let Madrigal get to Jack or Ennis like that, would you Amy??  *cries*

There you go again  ::), now you have me worried again,  ;) I sure hope Amy doesn't do that to us. She wouldn't... would she....?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 09, 2006, 04:44:56 pm
Ok, this is weird...

Just after I finished chapter 12 I turned on the TV and started watching 'House, MD'. In this episode the guy who got sick and went into a coma was a guy who was going to go into Witness Protection Program, the FBI was babysitting him. Not only did he also have a tattoo of a snake (not on his back, but on his ankle), but he also had a previous injury from a tire-iron (!). Honestly. 

:o

He was not as cute as Jack, though... ;)

Oh, and he turns out to be gay....

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 09, 2006, 05:37:33 pm
Here's another reminder of what Jack sees in Ennis:

"Jack wandered over to the bookshelves, drawn by a single photograph. It was in a silver frame, the photograph itself faded with age, one corner marred by a bend in the paper. It showed three children, two boys and a girl, and a woman, strands of blonde hair blowing across her laughing face. She had a slight gap between her front teeth and Jack smiled when he saw it, that lone imperfection making her more beautiful somehow. They were all sitting on a porch swing, Ennis in his mother’s lap, Junie next to them, her head resting on her mother’s shoulder. And K.E. on the opposite end, looking bored and sulky. Ennis had two scabbed over knees, his hair a mass of golden curls. He was leaning back against his mother’s chest, covering the hand she had around his belly with his own. Jack guessed he was about six, right on the cusp of being too old for his mother’s lap, maybe the last summer he could sit there without risking ridicule. . . .

. . . “That’s my mom,” Ennis said over Jack’s shoulder, his pointing finger stopping just short of touching her face.

“I figured. She was beautiful.” Jack turned to Ennis. “You look like her.”

Ennis flashed him a sad smile, full of longing. “She had the nicest voice. Low for a woman, smooth. I don’t know how she managed it with three kids, but she never yelled.”

Jack put the photograph back on the shelf, careful with it, setting it down gently. And then he walked Ennis slowly backwards, into the wall, easing his mouth down, fingers threading through Ennis’s hair.

“Jack,” Ennis breathed between kisses, his tongue playing against Jack’s, “we need to go.”

“Why?”

“I don’t know, I—”

“That’s not a good enough reason,” Jack teased. “I have something in mind.” He rotated his hips forward, smiling when Ennis moaned into his mouth. “Let’s go in your bedroom.” Jack pulled back a little, hands working at the buttons on Ennis’s shirt. “I want to make love with you in your bed. So next time you sleep here, you’ll smell me on your sheets, and remember.”

Ennis’s eyes clouded over, dark night eclipsing the clear brown. “I won’t need the sheets to remember, Jack,” he said quietly. He pushed up Jack’s t-shirt with his hands, thumbs brushing across Jack’s nipples. Jack’s chest muscles tightened, trails of liquid heat streaming down into his belly.

Their mouths came together, not as frantic as the night before, tenderness behind the joining of tongues and lips. Jack moved down Ennis’s throat, back up to blow hot breaths in his ear, laughing softly as Ennis squirmed and groaned.

“You’re always so ticklish right there,” Jack murmured. “Gets you every time.”
  -"Shades of Grey" by midwest_girl/Amy
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/kug5mw.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 09, 2006, 05:43:53 pm
OMG CC - that is one how Ennis/Heath pic!  YUM!!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 09, 2006, 06:01:52 pm
Leslie ~ I have always LOVED this one of Heath. Niims has it as her avatar and I absolutely adore it. It's my all time favourite of him. I really think it's brilliant. So thanks so much for posting it. You are now totally forgiven for the car and turtleneck pic  :P

 ;)


 ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 09, 2006, 07:13:11 pm
Gosh! That was emotional. No one can wound us more than the people we love. I'm so glad they found their way back to each other, I hope that this will make them stronger. I'm sure that they are going to be seperated soon - oh dear!

And poor Ortiz. That was just awful. Got a horrible nagging voice in my head telling me that Jack is going to have to make the same decision again in the not so distant future - and this time his answer will be very different. Madrigal and Hinestroza just have to meet unpleasant ends! They are both unspeakably evil!

Amy - this just gets better and better.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on November 09, 2006, 10:06:43 pm
I think I'm the only male on the entire thread....lol
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 09, 2006, 10:14:15 pm
I think I'm the only male on the entire thread....lol

LMAO!! Well, we always need more men around here!  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 09, 2006, 10:15:36 pm
LMAO!! Well, we always need more men around here!  ;)

Yep ~ I totally agree!

 ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 09, 2006, 10:54:40 pm
Quote
Got a horrible nagging voice in my head telling me that Jack is going to have to make the same decision again in the not so distant future - and this time his answer will be very different.

oh god... this is my exact fear. When he asked Ennis what he would have done and he says he'd probably have done the same thing I couldn't help but wonder if he'd soon have to decide something very similar...

This fic never fails to make me incredibly anxious!! But I love it, i wouldn't change a thing  ;D

This chapter was amazing, but I hate LJ right now because I'm having serious trouble posting comments and I had to rewrite this massive comment I left for Amy, grrrr..... oh well, it was worth it to re live the story! I think I may reread this chapter now...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 10, 2006, 03:32:11 am

This chapter was amazing, but I hate LJ right now because I'm having serious trouble posting comments and I had to rewrite this massive comment I left for Amy, grrrr..... oh well, it was worth it to re live the story! I think I may reread this chapter now...

Oh God ~ that's happened to me so often and it's just awful. What I do now is always copy my comment before I send it, that way I can paste it into a new comment if it gets lost.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 10, 2006, 01:48:57 pm
The two men behind the mirror watched Jack without speaking, the taller one taking a step forward to get a better look. Up to this point, he’d only seen Jack Twist in photographs or through the gazing end of binoculars. . . . 

Used to be this was his favorite part of the job. Closing in on a case, trapping someone frantic enough to save their own ass that they’d help you along. . . .

“Says here you’ve got some experience with the federal system.” He thumped Jack’s file with his index finger.  . . .

“You don’t want to fuck with me, Jack,” Ennis warned, voice level and deadly. “I’ve been investigating Hinestroza for three years now. I eat, sleep, and breathe Hinestroza. I know more about that piece of shit than he knows about himself. And I’ve had my eye on you all that time.”
  --"Shades of Grey" by midwest_girl/Amy

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Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 10, 2006, 01:50:53 pm
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Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 10, 2006, 01:51:56 pm
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/fbi6.jpg) (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/fbi5.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 10, 2006, 01:53:41 pm
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Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 10, 2006, 02:10:29 pm
Oh man, I'm loving these FBI file photos.....!!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 10, 2006, 02:25:40 pm
Oh man, I'm loving these FBI file photos.....!!!

No shit!  They're great!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 10, 2006, 04:15:55 pm
Oh man, I'm loving these FBI file photos.....!!!

Me too!! So much!

Thanks, as always, Leslie!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 10, 2006, 04:28:55 pm
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/delmarfbi.jpg)

OMG!  I just noticed the FBI file photos behind him on the wall!  Amazing!!!!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 10, 2006, 04:34:12 pm
OMG YES Amy! ~ I hadn't noticed that either  ::)

That's so brilliant Leslie!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 10, 2006, 04:42:47 pm
Thank you - [modest blush] - I sure wish I was getting paid to do these photos - I'd be rich !! LOL

I'll have you all know I have restrained myself from posting a whole slew of F.B.I. files because I love to do them so much. And there are a 1,000 candid shots of Jake in the city. I am especially proud of the Ennis at the whiteboard in the FBI office although if you look again, it looks like Heath drew an outline of his hand!

cc33 / Leslie K.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 10, 2006, 05:17:53 pm
Leslie those are amazing!  :D

That one of Ennis at the board is perfect, it made me squeal  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 10, 2006, 05:51:20 pm
Thank you - [modest blush] - I sure wish I was getting paid to do these photos - I'd be rich !! LOL

I'll have you all know I have restrained myself from posting a whole slew of F.B.I. files because I love to do them so much. And there are a 1,000 candid shots of Jake in the city. I am especially proud of the Ennis at the whiteboard in the FBI office although if you look again, it looks like Heath drew an outline of his hand!

cc33 / Leslie K.


LOL!  :D

Keep posting them Leslie! The more the better!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 11, 2006, 12:03:04 am
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Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 11, 2006, 12:03:50 am

                (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/fbi8.jpg)

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 11, 2006, 12:07:14 am
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Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 11, 2006, 12:08:26 am
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/fbi7.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 11, 2006, 12:45:42 am
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/fbi10.jpg)

Sometimes I forget how thin he is... sigh, I love Jake/Jack... Leslie you're spoiling us  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 11, 2006, 12:46:17 am
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/fbi9.jpg)

That smile  ::)

ok, I'll stop gushing now...  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 11, 2006, 05:01:54 am
That smile  ::)

ok, I'll stop gushing now...  ;)

Oh yeah.....soo nice to wake up to  *melts*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 11, 2006, 09:11:52 pm
I found a few more file photos in the back of the drawer. cc33

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/jake-gyllenhaal-tattoo-arm.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 11, 2006, 09:12:37 pm
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/jackfbi.jpg)  (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/jackfbi2.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 11, 2006, 09:18:59 pm
This scene is not in Amy's story, however, here's what it would look like if it was.

Reporter: Any news in the Hinestroza case, Special Agent Del Mar?
S.A. Del Mar: No comment.
Reporter:: Do you think the F.B.I. will ever find any evidence against him?
S.A. Del Mar: No comment.
Reporter: Is it true the F.B.I. has found someone to testi-
S.A. Del Mar:I SAID NO COMMENT.  ((walks away ))

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Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on November 11, 2006, 09:48:08 pm
You know, jakes not, as someone said, a skinny guy any longer. He's grown up, remember he's 25 now. In person he's a Big Guy, not Jersey Shore big, bulging everywhere, just a Big Guy. He's built now. Since it's said by those who have seen him in person recently that NONE of his photos do justice to his RL good looks, I think you could say he's matured well lol.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 11, 2006, 10:48:10 pm
How could Jake POSSIBLY be better looking in person!? (swoons, faints)

Here's a file photo of the "secret weapon"  ;)

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/JACKSBUMsecret.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on November 12, 2006, 01:32:48 am
I'm serious--bud of mine who has met him swears up and down that in person, he's better looking then he is in pics. He said that the only shot which came close was in BBM--and he emphasized 'came close'. Told me it's the scene where he takes the lariat off of his horse and just gazes at Ennis on the hillside, before the punch.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 12, 2006, 03:53:58 am
I'm serious--bud of mine who has met him swears up and down that in person, he's better looking then he is in pics. He said that the only shot which came close was in BBM--and he emphasized 'came close'. Told me it's the scene where he takes the lariat off of his horse and just gazes at Ennis on the hillside, before the punch.

oh man... and that happens to be my favorite shot in the entire movie, my favorite Jack face... if he is more beautiful than that in person I might die if I met him. I'm not kidding, I think it would kill me.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 12, 2006, 04:42:06 am
I'm serious--bud of mine who has met him swears up and down that in person, he's better looking then he is in pics. He said that the only shot which came close was in BBM--and he emphasized 'came close'. Told me it's the scene where he takes the lariat off of his horse and just gazes at Ennis on the hillside, before the punch.

 :o Really? Better looking than that? OMG! I agree, mandy, I wouldn't survive either... What's up with this guy?
Soooo uhm... how did your bud meet him, Brokebackjack?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 12, 2006, 09:28:32 am
oh man... and that happens to be my favorite shot in the entire movie, my favorite Jack face... if he is more beautiful than that in person I might die if I met him. I'm not kidding, I think it would kill me.

Right there with you...spontaneous human combustion...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 12, 2006, 09:38:47 am
oh man... and that happens to be my favorite shot in the entire movie, my favorite Jack face... if he is more beautiful than that in person I might die if I met him. I'm not kidding, I think it would kill me.

Hey Mandy ~ I have an avatar of his face from that scene so if you want to snag it you're welcome to  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 12, 2006, 12:07:58 pm
Hey Mandy ~ I have an avatar of his face from that scene so if you want to snag it you're welcome to  ;D

Really?? Thanks June!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 12, 2006, 12:46:20 pm
I think I gasped aloud when the camera zoomed in for this shot.

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Which%20Jake/Leaving_the_mountain.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 12, 2006, 12:51:26 pm
I'm serious--bud of mine who has met him swears up and down that in person, he's better looking then he is in pics. He said that the only shot which came close was in BBM--and he emphasized 'came close'. Told me it's the scene where he takes the lariat off of his horse and just gazes at Ennis on the hillside, before the punch.
:o Really? Better looking than that? OMG! I agree, mandy, I wouldn't survive either... What's up with this guy?
Soooo uhm... how did your bud meet him, Brokebackjack?

It is NOT possible for this man to be better looking in RL.

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Which%20Jake/Beauty.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 12, 2006, 12:54:23 pm
If he was better looking in RL he wouldn't be human, he'd be a demi-god.

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/98130xl.jpg) (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/handsome_handsome.jpg)


Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 12, 2006, 12:56:34 pm
  ... wait a minute .........  he IS a demi-god! that would explain a lot

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/pc47.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 12, 2006, 01:02:49 pm
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/brokeback_17.jpg)

I know exactly what I'd do if I ever met Jake. I would stand there slack-jawed and drooling for a while. When I recovered I'd throw myself at him screaming, "It's Jake!" Then I would pee my pants, swoon and faint.  Altogether I'm certain that I'd make a great impression on him anyway. Well at least he'd remember me.

How did your friend react, BBJack?

cc33 / Leslie
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 12, 2006, 01:04:43 pm
You know, jakes not, as someone said, a skinny guy any longer. He's grown up, remember he's 25 now. In person he's a Big Guy, not Jersey Shore big, bulging everywhere, just a Big Guy. He's built now. Since it's said by those who have seen him in person recently that NONE of his photos do justice to his RL good looks, I think you could say he's matured well lol.

He'll be 26 next month.

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Which%20Jake/beach.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 12, 2006, 01:47:21 pm
Is this turning in the Jake Jake Jake! thread? Not that I'm complaining.... ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 12, 2006, 02:03:54 pm
Leslie ~ you are amazing! SO many gorgeous pics *melts*  The black and white one is too beautiful and the first one you posted I have as an avatar.

H ~ isn't that small one of him with the white shirt and black jacket your MW Jack? *swoons* those eyes...I can't believe those eyes....

I want the black and white one as an avatar now, don't think I've ever seen that one as an avatar.
*looks at Helen hopefully*  ;D   :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 12, 2006, 02:08:04 pm
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/brokeback_17.jpg)

I know exactly what I'd do if I ever met Jake. I would stand there slack-jawed and drooling for a while. When I recovered I'd throw myself at him screaming, "It's Jake!" Then I would pee my pants, swoon and faint.  Altogether I'm certain that I'd make a great impression on him anyway. Well at least he'd remember me.

How did your friend react, BBJack?

cc33 / Leslie


OMG Leslie! Poor Jake  ;D  You'd scare him half to death, traumatise him for life LOL!  ;D

I wonder what I'd do.......lol

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 12, 2006, 03:04:29 pm
Amy, so sorry to take over this thread! Guess we got a little distracted *ahem*  ::)
Your last chapter was so intense it's difficult to discuss it. Hope you don't mind this little Jake detour.
cc33 / Leslie
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 12, 2006, 03:45:04 pm
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/brokeback_17.jpg)

I know exactly what I'd do if I ever met Jake. I would stand there slack-jawed and drooling for a while. When I recovered I'd throw myself at him screaming, "It's Jake!" Then I would pee my pants, swoon and faint.  Altogether I'm certain that I'd make a great impression on him anyway. Well at least he'd remember me.

How did your friend react, BBJack?

cc33 / Leslie


LOL that certainly would be a memorable reaction  :o I think something similar would happen to me...
Leslie ~ you are amazing! SO many gorgeous pics *melts*  The black and white one is too beautiful and the first one you posted I have as an avatar.

H ~ isn't that small one of him with the white shirt and black jacket your MW Jack? *swoons* those eyes...I can't believe those eyes....

I want the black and white one as an avatar now, don't think I've ever seen that one as an avatar.
*looks at Helen hopefully*  ;D   :-*


Seriously June, that black and white one is beautiful, it would be a perfect avatar... oh how I wish I had photoshop then I could make my own. I have all kinds of ideas for them.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 12, 2006, 04:59:02 pm
Leslie ~ you are amazing! SO many gorgeous pics *melts*  The black and white one is too beautiful and the first one you posted I have as an avatar.

H ~ isn't that small one of him with the white shirt and black jacket your MW Jack? *swoons* those eyes...I can't believe those eyes....

I want the black and white one as an avatar now, don't think I've ever seen that one as an avatar.
*looks at Helen hopefully*  ;D   :-*


My avatar is the SOG!Jack cocky pimp one with the random dog.

*avoids June's pleading gaze*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 12, 2006, 06:14:58 pm
My avatar is the SOG!Jack cocky pimp one with the random dog.

*avoids June's pleading gaze*

OH(!) I know that! Duh!  ::) I don't mean your avatar but the two pics on the same post Leslie posted of Jake on page 41; one of them is your MW Jack isnt it??

Hahaha ~ knew you couldn't resist my pleading gaze! Thanks! Squeeeee!  :-*


Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 12, 2006, 07:40:22 pm
Cocky son of a bitch. “Oh, really?” Ennis gave Jack a cold smile of his own. “Well, this time you’re not. Felon in possession of a firearm, Mr. Twist.” Ennis made a clucking sound with his tongue. “That’s a big no-no. Five years mandatory.”

“It wasn’t my fucking gun,” Jack said, folded his arms behind his head.

“No good,” Ennis countered. “Thought you’d know by now federal judges see right through that one. The gun was in your car when you were arrested. Don’t give a shit whose it really is. You’re on the hook for it, bud.”

“As you can see, Del Mar, I’m shaking in my boots over here.”

Don’t let him get to you, Ennis. It’s what he wants. You’re holding all the cards here. Jack Twist is nothing. Nothing. -- Shades of Grey by midwest_girl/Amy


"The cocky son of a bitch"
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Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 12, 2006, 07:51:09 pm
*SIGH*

He is too much.....he just oozes sex.....

Thanks Leslie! Every time I come in here I'm knocked off my feet! Jeeez.... ::)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 12, 2006, 09:07:08 pm
Cocky son of a bitch. “Oh, really?” Ennis gave Jack a cold smile of his own. “Well, this time you’re not. Felon in possession of a firearm, Mr. Twist.” Ennis made a clucking sound with his tongue. “That’s a big no-no. Five years mandatory.”

“It wasn’t my fucking gun,” Jack said, folded his arms behind his head.

“No good,” Ennis countered. “Thought you’d know by now federal judges see right through that one. The gun was in your car when you were arrested. Don’t give a shit whose it really is. You’re on the hook for it, bud.”

“As you can see, Del Mar, I’m shaking in my boots over here.”

Don’t let him get to you, Ennis. It’s what he wants. You’re holding all the cards here. Jack Twist is nothing. Nothing. -- Shades of Grey by midwest_girl/Amy


"The cocky son of a bitch"
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/red3.jpg) (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/red1.jpg) (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/white3.jpg) (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/black_Tshirt.jpg)


This post makes me want to go back and re read from the beginning... I love this story so much, and I love the pics you keep posting Leslie!  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 12, 2006, 11:19:47 pm
Amy, so sorry to take over this thread! Guess we got a little distracted *ahem*  ::)
Your last chapter was so intense it's difficult to discuss it. Hope you don't mind this little Jake detour.
cc33 / Leslie


I'd have to be nuts to mind a Jake detour... ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on November 12, 2006, 11:34:24 pm
Christ almighty all i did was say my friend tells me Jake is better looking in RL then on film, add my 2 cents that he is maturing well and we end up with what, 20 posts filled with  "TAKE ME JAKEY!!!! RIGHThere,  ON THE STEPS!!!!"

lmaoooooooooooooo
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 13, 2006, 12:32:51 am
Well you asked for it Jack! We take our Jake seriously here at BetterMost.  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on November 13, 2006, 03:08:45 am
Hell if anyone has a better quality napping jack then the one I use, I'd love it...<hint, hint>
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 13, 2006, 07:41:46 am
Christ almighty all i did was say my friend tells me Jake is better looking in RL then on film, add my 2 cents that he is maturing well and we end up with what, 20 posts filled with  "TAKE ME JAKEY!!!! RIGHThere,  ON THE STEPS!!!!"

lmaoooooooooooooo

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 13, 2006, 07:56:24 am
OH(!) I know that! Duh!  ::) I don't mean your avatar but the two pics on the same post Leslie posted of Jake on page 41; one of them is your MW Jack isnt it??

Hahaha ~ knew you couldn't resist my pleading gaze! Thanks! Squeeeee!  :-*




Oh right....lol...OH....yes, the one on the right was MW Jack in, let's say, chapter one.  I've been trying to look for some ill looking Jake pics but haven't found any that quite convey how he looks now....well before chapter 12 anyroad.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 13, 2006, 01:10:24 pm
Hell if anyone has a better quality napping jack then the one I use, I'd love it...<hint, hint>
voila!
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Which%20Jake/Jacknap.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on November 13, 2006, 04:17:00 pm
Whenever I see that picture, I say to  myself: Lucky dog!  ::)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 13, 2006, 04:28:49 pm
Whenever I see that picture, I say to  myself: Lucky dog!  ::)

The dog looks so utterly happy, doesn't he?  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on November 13, 2006, 05:46:21 pm
Whenever I see that picture, I say to  myself: Lucky dog!  ::)

WhenI saw this picture i got on a horse went up in the mountains and took a nap.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 13, 2006, 05:53:47 pm
WhenI saw this picture i got on a horse went up in the mountains and took a nap.

Oh God ~ I love that you did that!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on November 13, 2006, 06:36:21 pm
The dog looks so utterly happy, doesn't he?  ;D

Mmmmmmmm-hm. Sure he does. I bet that picture could prove inspiration for a shape-changer!Ennis fic.  ;D Or the dog might somehow be imbued with Ennis's spirit. A little mountain mysticism.....  :o


Then again, the doggie's probably just naturally drawn to Jack, because everyone is.

Don't quite know how to tie this back to SoG.... unless the picture is somehow symbolic of SoG Ennis and Jack's eventual new life together under the witness protection program. 

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 13, 2006, 06:42:27 pm
Don't quite know how to tie this back to SoG.... unless the picture is somehow symbolic of SoG Ennis and Jack's eventual new life together under the witness protection program. 

We're just filling time until the next SOG update! No harm in that.  ;D
In the meantime I am also waiting for my birthday to arrive, which is in exactly 20 minutes!

(*Jumps up and down excited*)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on November 13, 2006, 06:43:29 pm
Heh. No going to bed now till you've been properly congratulated.  :)  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on November 13, 2006, 06:46:33 pm
It HAS no relationship to shaed of grey. Completely off topic. freely admitted .roflmaooooo
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 13, 2006, 07:01:29 pm
GEFELICITEERD MEL!!  


 :-*  :-*  :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on November 13, 2006, 07:04:11 pm
Here goes......  ;)


PRETTIGE VERJAARDAG, MEL!

Hope you'll have as much bliss on your birthday as this lil' lamb seems to be experiencing!

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a100/Maeglian/00000000000000000000000000000000Jac.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 13, 2006, 07:08:22 pm
Here goes......  ;)


PRETTIGE VERJAARDAG, MEL!

Hope you'll have as much bliss on your birthday as this lil' lamb seems to be experiencing!

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a100/Maeglian/00000000000000000000000000000000Jac.jpg)

Oh to be that lamb, to be that lamb!!!!  ;D What a cute photo....

Thanks for the birthday wishes!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 13, 2006, 07:10:49 pm
GEFELICITEERD MEL!!  


 :-*  :-*  :-*

THANK YOU!!!!  

 :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 13, 2006, 07:38:38 pm
I love your sig line Mel, it's beautiful  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 13, 2006, 07:43:14 pm
Happy Birthday, Mel!!!  ;D  :D  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 13, 2006, 08:39:09 pm
Happy Birthday Mel !   ;)

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/flowersforMel.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 14, 2006, 12:01:35 am
Happy Birthday, Mel!  But what does your signature line say?  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 14, 2006, 12:42:09 am
Happy Birthday, Mel!  But what does your signature line say?  ;)

yes, I want to know too  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on November 14, 2006, 01:44:31 am
Happy birthday Mel!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 14, 2006, 04:38:43 am
Happy Birthday, Mel!  But what does your signature line say?  ;)

Thank you all for the birthday wishes!   :-*

De grond, het gras, de wegen naar de horizon die trilt. De tijd is hier de ruimte, de diepte hier is wild. De onzin en de noodzaak, ze naderen de grens. De liefde van één mens, was mij genoeg

The ground, the grass, the roads towards the horizon that trembles. Time is space here, the depth is wild here. The nonsense and the necessity, they approach the boundary. The love of one person was enough for me.

It's from one of my all-time favorite songs from a Dutch band called Blof. Well that is a very literal translation, maybe June can help me with a better translation? Sounds better in Dutch!  ;)

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 14, 2006, 05:27:25 am
It's a very literal translation Mel but an okay one  :) It does sound much better in Dutch; like most things translated the feel of it changes when you do.
I love Blof too  :)


God Leslie ~ Jake's so totally hot in that pic. Oh man. Wish he'd look at me like that! The flowers you added are so cute!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 14, 2006, 07:20:30 am
It's a very literal translation Mel but an okay one  :) It does sound much better in Dutch; like most things translated the feel of it changes when you do.
I love Blof too  :)


Ja, en Blof doet iets met z'n teksten waardoor het echt onvertaalbaar wordt!
Well, I'm a business translator, not a literary translator, unfortunately there's a difference.... :(....  ;)
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So uhm... who else is looking forward to Thursday? (This to get the topic back on SOG!  ;), otherwise I will get into trouble...)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on November 14, 2006, 09:25:02 am
I'm looking forward to Thursday NIGHT, when i get back from Casper Wyoming and can read it.....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 14, 2006, 09:54:45 am
I'm eagerly anticipating the next chapter with y'all. cc33
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 14, 2006, 12:14:17 pm
Happy Birthday mel! :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 14, 2006, 11:42:19 pm
"cocky son of a bitch"

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/sog14.jpg)
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/sofg12.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 15, 2006, 09:56:49 am
Oh no, I don't like that last one!

Hey- has anybody noticed that it's almost Thursday?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 15, 2006, 10:20:26 am
As far as that last photo, well he IS  a cocky son of a bitch in the story but there are few photos of Jake looking cocky.

cc33

and YES I'm glad it's nearly Thursday.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 15, 2006, 10:54:18 am
Oh no, I don't like that last one!

Hey- has anybody noticed that it's almost Thursday?

I know, yay! Amy has started to reply to her comments... you know what that means!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 15, 2006, 10:59:31 am
*sigh*

(http://img.timeinc.net/people/i/2006/specials/sma06/sma_gallery/jake_gyllenhaal.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 15, 2006, 11:01:32 am
I know, yay! Amy has started to reply to her comments... you know what that means!  :D

No? Does that mean she is ON SCHEDULE?  :)

Oh Mandy, that's better!!!! (*points to latest picture*)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 15, 2006, 11:06:39 am
That's a rather hot pic!

*slurp*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 15, 2006, 11:11:32 am
That's a rather hot pic!

*slurp*

Oh yeah!! Totally hot! WOW Mandy!  ;D

Hey Mandy ~ have you seen Lucise's Shane avatar? It's to die for  ;D  And did you know that there is an L word thread??
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on November 15, 2006, 12:33:05 pm
HL ain't chopped liver ladies!!!

but cripes, jake is one good lookin kid.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 15, 2006, 03:06:36 pm
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/sexy.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 15, 2006, 03:20:32 pm
Whooo!  The JBF photo!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on November 15, 2006, 07:52:46 pm
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/sexy.jpg)
                            this should be the cover picture for shades of grey,,,,its absolutely a perfect pic for that jack.....sexy  and  hot  with that come hither look in his eyes...                                                                                         janice
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 15, 2006, 08:11:09 pm
Hey Janice! Hi!  :)

Great to see you on this thread too!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 15, 2006, 08:28:13 pm
Oh yeah!! Totally hot! WOW Mandy!  ;D

Hey Mandy ~ have you seen Lucise's Shane avatar? It's to die for  ;D  And did you know that there is an L word thread??

No I haven't seen her avatar! Is she on LJ or is it her avatar here? and where is the L word thread???
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 15, 2006, 08:29:10 pm
Ok I just saw it  ::)

God I love her...  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 16, 2006, 03:59:06 am
Good morning all!  ;D

I'm SO happy it's Thursday!!  ;D

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 16, 2006, 05:28:04 am
Good morning all!  ;D

I'm SO happy it's Thursday!!  ;D



Amen to that!!!

Am very excited, and as always on a Thursday filled with a little trepidation about what lies ahead. I just don't want Jack and Ennis to be seperated just yet.

After doing some re-reading I'm starting to have my doubts about Colin. Don't ask me why, he could have betrayed them 100 times over by now if he was that way inclined. I guess I'm seeing betrayal at every corner.

BTW that last Jake pic - OMFG!!!! How am I supposed to concentrate on my work now????  :laugh:
No wonder Ennis is ready to leave his career, his fiancee, his reputation and possibly his life, in the dust...

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 16, 2006, 05:44:28 am
Amen to that!!!

Am very excited, and as always on a Thursday filled with a little trepidation about what lies ahead. I just don't want Jack and Ennis to be seperated just yet.

After doing some re-reading I'm starting to have my doubts about Colin. Don't ask me why, he could have betrayed them 100 times over by now if he was that way inclined. I guess I'm seeing betrayal at every corner.

BTW that last Jake pic - OMFG!!!! How am I supposed to concentrate on my work now????  :laugh:
No wonder Ennis is ready to leave his career, his fiancee, his reputation and possibly his life, in the dust...

Karen

I'd expected them to be seperated in the last chapter. I was SO relieved that didn't happen. I wonder if it'll happen in this chapter now....  :(
OMFG ~ Colin?? Jeeeeez, hope you're not right!! Maybe he's waiting for the perfect time to betray them so it won't be too obvious he did it....oh god....but why would he betray them??
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 16, 2006, 06:36:35 am
OMFG ~ Colin?? Jeeeeez, hope you're not right!! Maybe he's waiting for the perfect time to betray them so it won't be too obvious he did it....oh god....but why would he betray them??

I just have vague suspicions. Colin's been nothing but helpful, but the line about Jack seeing the DA before the Marshall made me wonder if he was going to lead them into a trap.

Also, he did give them the tip off about Madrigal knowing where they were, but Madrigal was waiting right outside the exact moment that they left the apartment. Colin also said that he 'leaned' on a clerk at the police station until he confessed that he had supressed the man with the dog's report, and that he (the clerk) had passed the information to Madrigal. I would have thought that anyone's terror of Madrigal would prevent them from confessing something like that so easily. Colin wouldn't have known that the report existed unless he had been told.

Colin can't be seen to be taking any direct action, but he can influence events to Hinestroza and Madrigal's benefit.

However, I could be on completely the wrong tack and I apologise if I have slandered poor old Colin and he is in fact and genuine good guy.

Amy, do you object to us speculating about your story and characters? I'll stop if you do.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 16, 2006, 06:57:25 am
Well Karen, this does make a lot of sense to me. God, how I love all this insightful speculation. Too bad I'm so hopeless at it  ::)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 16, 2006, 07:39:35 am
Well Karen, this does make a lot of sense to me. God, how I love all this insightful speculation. Too bad I'm so hopeless at it  ::)

Oh - I'm awful at it. That's why I'm invariably wrong. I probably am on this occasion too.

Can't wait till this afternoon. Amy usually posts about 4:30pm UK time, which means I can print it off to read on my journey home.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 16, 2006, 07:58:53 am
Oh, that's interesting about Colin!

But....I dunno....

The dogman went to the FBI and said he'd filed a report there, and when Ennis said he had checked and there was no report, Colin followed it up.

The clerk to me sounds a bit of a lame-ass tosser really.  Easy money just for chucking away a bit of paper.  But he was nervous when Ennis phoned, so probably was ripe for coughing up the truth when Colin got onto him as well.  Maybe the clerk wasn't terrified of Madrigal, just thought it was a bit of easy money.

Also,  why didn't Colin tell Madrigal right at the start where Jack and Ennis were, instead of leaving it for several weeks.  Madrigal had no need to go looking at precinct records if Colin is in with them.

If Colin isn't so good as he has been painted so far then....1. Ennis and Jack aren't as safe as Ennis thinks and 2. How is Colin going to lead Madrigal to them without suspicion falling on himself since he is the only other person who knows where they are.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 16, 2006, 08:02:44 am
Told you I was invariably wrong.

My shakey theory taken apart, and very eloquently too.  :)

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 16, 2006, 08:11:02 am
Told you I was invariably wrong.

My shakey theory taken apart, and very eloquently too.  :)

Karen

Aw god I'm sorry.  :( 

I just get carried away and my analytical/problem solving side just kicks in and sets to work.

 :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 16, 2006, 08:15:23 am
Aw god I'm sorry.  :( 

I just get carried away and my analytical/problem solving side just kicks in and sets to work.

 :-*

Oh please - don't apologise.  :)

Isn't half the fun of being fan fic addicts swapping theories and analysing plotlines? My mind goes off on flights of fancy, and not usually well analysed ones. I'm never right, but what the hey  ;D

Let's all sit in a circle holding hands summoning the next chapter.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 16, 2006, 08:19:31 am

Isn't half the fun of being fan fic addicts swapping theories and analysing plotlines? My mind goes off on flights of fancy, and not usually well analysed ones. I'm never right, but what the hey  ;D


Oh yeah absolutely.  I still have my fantasy that these guys will end up on a ranch in Wyoming...but since Amy keeps saying they'll be together but it won't be a happy ever after type ending I fear I am seriously delusional on this point!

 ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 16, 2006, 08:24:27 am
Oh yeah absolutely.  I still have my fantasy that these guys will end up on a ranch in Wyoming...but since Amy keeps saying they'll be together but it won't be a happy ever after type ending I fear I am seriously delusional on this point!

 ;D

Damn! I'd hoped for the ranch ending too. They could be fairly anonymous out in the wilds somewhere.

Oh dear - I hope it won't be one of those, have-to-let-each-other-go-to-save-each-other type endings. Or redeemed-character-has-to-still-pay-for-past-misdeeds ending.

You know though, Amy is an incedible writer and this is going to be an wonderful journey whatever the outcome.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 16, 2006, 09:49:00 am
I know it's already been said, but... Happy Thursday  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 16, 2006, 10:02:37 am

Let's all sit in a circle holding hands summoning the next chapter.

Karen

Good idea!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 16, 2006, 10:03:31 am
I know it's already been said, but... Happy Thursday  ;D

Hi Mandy!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 16, 2006, 10:04:52 am
I know it's already been said, but... Happy Thursday  ;D

Hi Mandy! Hi everybody... Donderdag yeeeeeh!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 16, 2006, 10:14:30 am
Hi Mandy! Hi everybody... Donderdag yeeeeeh!  ;D

Hey Mel!  :)

Ben je er klaar voor??  ;D

Did you have a nice B'day?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 16, 2006, 12:21:25 pm
Hey, guys.  Chapter 13 is up at http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/7400.html   Thanks!  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 16, 2006, 12:37:03 pm
Hey Mel!  :)

Ben je er klaar voor??  ;D

Did you have a nice B'day?

Ready! Ja, I did have a wonderful b'day, thank you!  :-*

Oh, can't wait to get home!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on November 16, 2006, 12:49:34 pm
Vague spoilers, sort of.....





**Reads chapter 13 **

**Screams**

Awesome chapter. The relationship between Hinestroza and Jack.... and then later Jack and Ennis, described so well it all sendt shivers down my spine.

Now this chapter's turn of events I *so* didn't see coming!  :o :o  I thought they'd be captured or found by Madrigal and that would be Jack's hour to sacrifice himself in order to seek redemption for Ortiz.

I think that based on experience from investigations and other prosecutions Ennis probably should have been entirely aware just where this particular case was heading, well before the prosecutor told him, but of course he's been more than distracted lately.......  Anyway, who cares?!?! "What happens now" is the only question!

** Starts biting nails like crazy **
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 16, 2006, 12:50:59 pm
Hey, guys.  Chapter 13 is up at http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/7400.html   Thanks!  ;)

Okay.... Well... What to say...

Another fantastic chapter.

Am a bit numb. Not the direction I was expecting. Amy you have just ratcheted up the tension several more notches!

I do not know how I am going to hang on for a week for the next one.

Will wait to discuss plot till you SOG fans have read it.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 16, 2006, 01:02:52 pm

I think that based on experience from investigations and other prosecutions Ennis probably should have been entirely aware just where this particular case was heading, well before the prosecutor told him, but of course he's been more than distracted lately.......  Anyway, who cares?!?!

** Starts biting nails like crazy **

Actually, the WPP is handled exclusively by the U.S. Attorney's Office and the U.S. Marshal's Office, so Ennis wouldn't necessarily be in the loop of what was going on with Jack's status.  He would be informed on a need to know basis.  I do agree that he probably should have been more concerned w/ getting Hinestroza into the country, but I found that often times the different divisions of a prosecution fail to communicate with one another on any substantive level.  The FBI is left to handle their part of the case and the U.S. Attorney's office, etc. handles their part and you hope all the pieces come together in the end.  Also, Ennis, up until this point, was a big believer in "the system" and thought things would work out because that was what was supposed to happen. 
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on November 16, 2006, 01:14:51 pm
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I do agree that he probably should have been more concerned w/ getting Hinestroza into the country,

That was what I was thinking of, especially since Ennis's been very aware since he learned of what happened to Lureen that Hinestroza knew about what Jack had done and so could not be expected to act against his (H's) own safety and best interests. Ennis always seems like such a worryier and planner-ahead'er, too. But I certainly do get the point about him believing in the system. And as for him not using more thought on just how exactly the system would lure H. to the US, well - Ennis's had other much more weighty and life-altering events and thoughts to occupy his mind and heart.

I sure do *love* SoG, Amy - I hope you don't take the above as criticism. My heart absolutely clenched with pain at this chapter's ending - it hasn't unclenched yet!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 16, 2006, 01:26:53 pm
Oh, believe me, criticism is fine!  Speaking of criticism, I sort of wrote this story to be a criticism of the justice system as well (after a decade as a defense attorney I have an ax to grind...LOL).  But seriously, I think most people would be shocked by how slip-shod alot of this stuff is.  I had a case like this a few years ago, representing an alleged hit man and they indicted his boss along w/ him and then at the last minute they told us, "Ooops, can't get him into the country."  And the witnesses in the case were not given any protection.  So it does happen...they system defintely has some GIANT flaws. 
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 16, 2006, 01:45:53 pm

Now this chapter's turn of events I *so* didn't see coming!  :o :o  I thought they'd be captured or found by Madrigal and that would be Jack's hour to sacrifice himself in order to seek redemption for Ortiz.


Me neither. That's what I commented too. I'm just in some kind of a daze. Shocked by these desperate turn of events and stunned by Amy's ability to be able to write this. OMG ~ I just can't even think about the next chapter. I really can't. I really hurt for Jack and Ennis.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 16, 2006, 01:54:14 pm
And I just kept going on and on about the bloody WP programme! Oh man.....I can't believe this. Poor sweet Jack. Poor Ennis. Will Jack be gone when Ennis gets out of the shower?  :'(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 16, 2006, 03:11:02 pm
NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 :o

More coherent comment once I have calmed down....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on November 16, 2006, 06:38:15 pm
**spoilers**


I've been gone, doing a work-out routine and exercises of an evening, and the session whizzed past in no time because I was thinking about SoG.

This fic is so addictive I think Mr. Hinestroza would have made more money secretly selling SoG chapters than his current "line of business". Heck, he could have made a comfortable living as a black marketeer of tiny chapter 14 spoilers.


Back home I read the chapter through more slowly and attentively. The first time I read a new chapter I tear through it at breakneck speed to find out what happens. I miss the nuances that way, some of those little things to savour. Reading more carefully now, I'm so incredibly impressed with the quality of the writing, the imagery, the seeming ease with which emotions and situations and characters are communicated in a few well-chosen words and visuals to the readers, hitting them hard, not letting go.

I loved the guys' reminiscing about childhood at the beginning, and Ennis's body taking on the rainbow colours. Nice nod to his newfound identity.  :)

The plot development made more sense to me this time around, - it didn't seem as strange to me now that Ennis hadn't questioned more about what was happening with getting Hinestroza into the country. Amy's comments above also helped a lot with that.  :) With a few little touches Colin also seemed more like a real living breathing human being, understanding much more of what is goiig on that he lets on, and seemingly with some real human decency remaining in him too. I wonder if he'll play a further role in the upcoming events....

I'm so impressed with the way Jack's reaction to the news that he's "on his own" is described. The stillness in him, the lack of useless rage, the not-quite-hidden mental and physical exhaustion in addition to the fear over what he's about to do.... the letting go of life, as it were  - deep down Jack probably thinks he deserves shitty things happening to him because of Ortiz, because of the way he was treated as a kid, even. And what a lot of horrible stuff has happened to him since that time!

I wonder if Jack will be gone when Ennis returns from his shower; - just a note left behind to explain? Will Jack bring the driver's licence with him to have something of Ennis with him for a little while longer? Or will Jack stay for a while before he goes? How will he let Ennis know of the deal he's made (assuming Hinestroza accepts his offer) - he does have to let Ennis know since his aim is that Ennis not look over his shoulder for the rest of his life. Will the fact that the call was made from Ennis's cell phone be of any importance in the further development?

I'm going to be thinking about this until next chapter is posted! And while the Thanksgiving celebration is well and truly deserved, and I do hope all you Americans here have a great time during the holidays, us poor Europeans will be sitting around next Thursday;  neither SoG nor stuffed turkey in sight. It's going to be a dreary Thursday, you bet!  ::)


I understand why readers of SoG keep quoting passages of the fic in their comments. It's all just so quotable, as it all makes such an impact. I'll be doing that this time too, in a small way. This little description sticks with me and sends chills through me every time I think about it:

"He looked at peace; he looked already gone."

What a stab to the heart!  :-\ :'( :-\ :'( :-\ :'( Poor Jack! **sniff**


Amy, you've outdone yourself. Thank you for this fic. Have a lovely Thanksgiving.  :)



Edited because it's too late for me to manage English spelling!  ::)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 16, 2006, 10:36:40 pm
finally got to read this and all I can say is oh my god... I seriously left the most insane, rambling comment on Amy's journal which mostly consisted of me quoting her brilliant writing. This was my favorite chapter yet... and that ending... somebody fucking kill me right now, I about died when Jack did that.

Ok, I need to go calm down somewhere...  :-\
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on November 16, 2006, 11:43:38 pm
I  hope I'm not rudely barging into this thread. I apologize if I am. But I just felt like I should compliment Amy on her wonderful story!!  :D

I am not a fan of fanfic (no pun intended), but Melissa is. For the past several months, she has been gently encouraging me to read some fanfic here on Bettermost. Today she pointed me to "Shades of Grey" and I thought I would give it a try. I read through the first four chapters within an hour and I thoroughly enjoyed it!

Thank you Amy for creating such a wonderful story and thank you Melissa for telling me about it!  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 17, 2006, 12:16:10 am
You're welcome, David!  I'm so glad you're enjoying the story!   :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 17, 2006, 12:43:09 am
Glad you made it over here, David. BrokebackJack was the only male on this thread.

Anyway you all, here's a couple more photos of the cocky son of a bitch.

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/TI4U_u1140728151-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 17, 2006, 12:45:34 am
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/TI4U_u1140844088.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 17, 2006, 12:46:22 am
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/TI4U_u1136318173.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 17, 2006, 12:58:03 am
“Shut up,” Ennis said, slipping on his black overcoat.

“What?” Jack smiled. “You look handsome.” He stood up, his hands stuffed into the pockets of his jeans.

Ennis felt his cheeks warming, embarrassed and pleased by Jack’s compliment. “Thanks,” he said, fighting back the urge to look at the floor. “But you’ve seen me in a suit before.”

“I know. Thought you looked good then, too.” Jack managed to wink and smirk at the same time. “Even though I wanted to kick your ass.” He paused, grabbing his leather jacket from the chair. “Are you sure it’s okay if I go with you?”
  --Shades of Grey by midwest_girl/Amy

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/jake-gyllenhaal.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 17, 2006, 01:00:34 am
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/HeathLedger_Granitz_7503141.jpg) (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/HeathLedger_Granitz_7495979.jpg)

(ignore the earring please and imagine that jack is wearing it instead)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on November 17, 2006, 03:22:57 am
Coffee--- roflmaoooo the B&W pic you posted looks EXACTLY like one of my youngest brother at 24. Had to do a double take. Yeah he was a head turner, exceedingly so...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 17, 2006, 03:36:31 am
Coffee--- roflmaoooo the B&W pic you posted looks EXACTLY like one of my youngest brother at 24. Had to do a double take. Yeah he was a head turner, exceedingly so...

Can I meet your brother?  :D

 ;D 

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 17, 2006, 03:37:51 am
Hi David! Nice to see you here  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 17, 2006, 03:40:57 am
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/TI4U_u1140844088.jpg)

WOW!

Sigh......
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on November 17, 2006, 03:43:51 am
Can I meet your brother?  :D

 ;D 



He's now 40. looks very good. Turned out even better: was a 911 hero, an iraq war hero, and decorated for bravery by NYPD several times. Happily married. Her friends are jealous because he's so good at being a husband.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on November 17, 2006, 03:54:08 am
Hi David! Nice to see you here  :)

Hi There Bigheart! We rarely bump into each other on here, but I'm always glad when we do.  :D

(You were talking to me weren't you??)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 17, 2006, 04:05:53 am
He's now 40. looks very good. Turned out even better: was a 911 hero, an iraq war hero, and decorated for bravery by NYPD several times. Happily married. Her friends are jealous because he's so good at being a husband.

Oh man, I'm jealous too!  ;D 
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 17, 2006, 04:08:09 am
Hi There Bigheart! We rarely bump into each other on here, but I'm always glad when we do.  :D

(You were talking to me weren't you??)

LOL! ~ yes, I was talking to you!  ;D

Aww ~ always so nice to talk to you too, David! Come visit us more often over here!  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 17, 2006, 08:11:23 am
I'm so glad I dragged you over here, David!  :-* You have some pretty interesting chapters ahead of you, doesn't he, girls? But you need to stay away from this thread until you are caught up with the story, there are too many spoilers here for you! Too many!!!!  :o

Amy, are you trying to kill us with your writing? The first thing I had to do after reading your last chapter was run downstairs and hug my boyfriend, I was soooo sad!

I can't believe the direction this story is going. It's so sad that Jack can't think of a happy ending for himself and Ennis, but he is being very brave in thinking that he can redeem himself and become the man he thinks Ennis deserves. God, that is gut-wrenching! I loved how you wrote Colin and how he reacted to Ennis flipping out. He knows what's going on (Jack reaching out to lay his hand on Ennis' arm and Jack realising that Colin was looking was brilliant and very subtle, how could he not know what's going on, he already had a hunch and he has known Ennis for a while now, knows he doesn't flip out like that normally), and I think/hope he is going to play a major part in the next chapters, maybe he will help Ennis find Jack. Once again the dialogue was completely believable and it's so great that you are writing from your own experience as a defense attorney, it really makes the story come to life.

What an awful cliffhanger! Bet you won't be eating that Thanksgiving turkey without the image of your faithful readers hanging off that damn cliff! But I do wish you a happy Thanksgiving. 

Oh, one thing. You haven't mentioned Alma at all since that chapter where they were in Ennis' apartment. I was wondering about her, it seems like Ennis hasn't had even a passing thought about her....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 17, 2006, 08:28:57 am
Oh, one thing. You haven't mentioned Alma at all since that chapter where they were in Ennis' apartment. I was wondering about her, it seems like Ennis hasn't had even a passing thought about her....

I haven't thought about her either - is that bad of me? I did harbour a thought that she could make life difficult by revealing what she discovered, but even if she did, it would hardly register now with current developments.

There have been some very insightful posts following the most recent chapter. I wish that I could add something as worthy. All I can say is that story is so wonderfully crafted. The moment when Jack held Ennis and told him that being with him was the only decision that he had ever made that made him proud. Well...  :'(

Oh, God I can't bear the thought of Hinestroza and Madrigal getting their hands on Jack. As soon as he offers himself up to save Ennis surely they are going to figure out his attachment to Ennis.  :(

As for Colin, well, it appears that I was totally wrong, and I'm glad I was.

Please don't let Jack simply disappear whilst Ennis is in the shower, although that is exactly what I can see him doing. Of course given recent relevations I think that Ennis will figure out pretty quickly what Jack plans to do. I hope that he can catch up with him in time. Perhaps Colin can help with the tracking. I'm sure that the mobile phone is going to play a part. If Jack takes it he can be tracked by it's signal, or Ennis may be able to track Hinestroza's location if he has the number taht Jack called.

Even if Jack does sacrifice himself, how can he be sure that Madrigal will leave Ennis alone?

Yup, there are a few of us dangling by our fingertips off this cliff.

Karen

P.S. On a seperate note do potential witnesses actually get treated like that?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 17, 2006, 09:22:12 am
Karen, I wish I could answer all your questions....I'm dying to, but that would ruin the story!  LOL.  And yes, witnesses do get treated like that.  One thing you have to remember is that the Witness Protection Program is for *criminals*.  No regular, upstanding Joe-blow citizen ever goes into the WPP.  That only happens in the movies.  It's a program to induce (or coerce, depending on how you look at it) criminals to cough up the info they know in order to save themselves from prison.  As a result, if things fall through the government doesn't have a huge incentive to help those people out.  They are still criminals, after all.  Our justice system is great, compared to much of the world, but the federal system, at least, is weighted so heavily towards the government it would shock most people.  And the sentences handed down for drug crimes so often do not fit the crime, they are draconian and cruel.  I'll stop my defense attorney up-on-the-pulpit talk now!   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 17, 2006, 09:32:02 am
Oh, I wouldn't want you to answer any of my questions. I just can't help asking them - you know?  ;D

I'm OK to dangle here till the next posting. I'll just have to read SOG from scratch. Yes, that's what I'll do  :laugh:

I understand what you say about WPP being for criminals. Maybe I'm a bit of a bleeding heart liberal, but getting someone to literally put their life on the line in order to stop a wrong and then letting them twist in the wind seems wrong to me. If you're going to punish a wrongdoing then punish it, don't offer someone an alternative which results in a death sentence.

BTW I loved that line about Ennis wanting to go back in time and whisper in Jack's ear in the interrogation room.

What the hell... I loved all of it!  ;D

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 17, 2006, 09:39:57 am
Karen, I wish I could answer all your questions....

Does that also mean the question I had about Alma? I was really wondering why she isn't mentioned anymore.... ??? Will there be a plot twist in which she turns out to be Madrigal's replacement as Hinestroza's assassin?  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 17, 2006, 09:51:32 am
Does that also mean the question I had about Alma? I was really wondering why she isn't mentioned anymore.... ??? Will there be a plot twist in which she turns out to be Madrigal's replacement as Hinestroza's assassin?  ;)

PMSL   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 17, 2006, 10:07:26 am
Does that also mean the question I had about Alma? I was really wondering why she isn't mentioned anymore.... ??? Will there be a plot twist in which she turns out to be Madrigal's replacement as Hinestroza's assassin?  ;)

Sorry, yes, that means you haven't seen the last of Alma.  Right now I think she is completely out of Ennis's mind, he has been too focused on the the few remaining days he has with Jack, and now on Jack's safety.  But you will get more information about the Alma/Ennis relationship later.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 17, 2006, 10:08:02 am
By the way, LOL picturing Alma with a gun, screaming, "Take THAT, Jack Nasty!"
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 17, 2006, 10:17:53 am
By the way, LOL picturing Alma with a gun, screaming, "Take THAT, Jack Nasty!"

Yeah, I know!!! Hahahaha!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 17, 2006, 10:26:53 am
Oh yeah... hell hath no fury and all that...

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 17, 2006, 11:40:29 pm
the cocky son of a bitch
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/cockysob.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on November 18, 2006, 12:27:03 am
Amy...

I must say I have been thoroughly happy and content these past 2 days reading through the first 13 chapters of your story. I can't even begin to compliment you enough on your brilliant talent.

But now I learn I will have to wait until next week to find out what happens next.

I don't know if I can do it.  :'(

The suspense is killing me.

Congratulations on your wonderful story!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 18, 2006, 01:56:52 am
the cocky son of a bitch
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/cockysob.jpg)

I LOVE this one! thanks Leslie!!  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 18, 2006, 04:48:34 am
Amy...

I must say I have been thoroughly happy and content these past 2 days reading through the first 13 chapters of your story. I can't even begin to compliment you enough on your brilliant talent.

But now I learn I will have to wait until next week to find out what happens next.

I don't know if I can do it.  :'(

The suspense is killing me.

Congratulations on your wonderful story!

I know and you have some interesting plans for finding out what happens before next week, don't you?  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 18, 2006, 09:40:05 am
Amy...

I must say I have been thoroughly happy and content these past 2 days reading through the first 13 chapters of your story. I can't even begin to compliment you enough on your brilliant talent.

But now I learn I will have to wait until next week to find out what happens next.

I don't know if I can do it.  :'(

The suspense is killing me.

Congratulations on your wonderful story!

Thanks so much, David!  I'm so thrilled you are enjoying the story.  Sorry about the longer than usual wait between chapters, guys.  The holidays are such a pain in the butt!   ;)

And what's this about you having special plans to find out what happens next? 
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 18, 2006, 06:48:54 pm
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Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on November 18, 2006, 10:10:53 pm
And what's this about you having special plans to find out what happens next? 

I told Melissa I would love to be a fly on your wall as you type the next chapter so I wouldn't have to wait.

But I guess I will just read chapters 1-13 over and over again until next weekend.  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 19, 2006, 04:35:17 am
I told Melissa I would love to be a fly on your wall as you type the next chapter so I wouldn't have to wait.

But I guess I will just read chapters 1-13 over and over again until next weekend.  :)

That's always a good passtime while waiting for the next chapter!  ;D

God, I'm so glad I told you to read Amy's story!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on November 19, 2006, 06:08:34 pm
That's always a good passtime while waiting for the next chapter!  ;D


Oh I know! I'm sure I will find some fine details in those chapters I missed the first time I read it. I'm still wondering about the telephone call at the end of Chapter 13. It has me very worried!

God, I'm so glad I told you to read Amy's story!

I am too!  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 19, 2006, 07:24:36 pm
ooh David I think I'll take a page out of your book tonight and re read all the chapters... I need to have something to hold me over untill friday (friday, *sigh*  :'( )
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 19, 2006, 07:25:48 pm
Oh I know! I'm sure I will find some fine details in those chapters I missed the first time I read it. I'm still wondering about the telephone call at the end of Chapter 13. It has me very worried!

ooh David I think I'll take a page out of your book tonight and re read all the chapters... I need to have something to hold me over untill friday (friday, *sigh*  :'( )

Me too! I don't know if I can wait until next weekend. But we'll have to. Think I should focus on my own writing until then, keep my mind off SOG!  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on November 19, 2006, 08:28:53 pm
Think I should focus on my own writing until then....  

Well, I'm sure you already know I am always in favor of that!  :D

Melissa! What are you doing up?  :o

It's late over there in Amsterdam!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 19, 2006, 08:54:38 pm
Me too! I don't know if I can wait until next weekend. But we'll have to. Think I should focus on my own writing until then, keep my mind off SOG!  ;)


LOL, yeah I should probably be doing that myself... considering grad school applications are going to be due soon, yikes  :-\
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on November 19, 2006, 09:04:26 pm
ooh David I think I'll take a page out of your book tonight and re read all the chapters... I need to have something to hold me over untill friday (friday, *sigh*  :'( )

Yes. And just think, we'll be "Shades of Grey" experts by then! We'll have the first 13 chapters memorized.

Maybe Amy could even test us!  ;)  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 20, 2006, 07:35:26 am
Well, I'm sure you already know I am always in favor of that!  :D

Melissa! What are you doing up?  :o

It's late over there in Amsterdam!

I was writing!!!!  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 20, 2006, 07:36:09 am
LOL, yeah I should probably be doing that myself... considering grad school applications are going to be due soon, yikes  :-\

Good luck with that, Mandy!  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 20, 2006, 01:42:54 pm
Good luck with that, Mandy!  :)

Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 21, 2006, 01:03:05 pm
Is it there yet? *looks around*

 :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 21, 2006, 04:38:03 pm
Is it there yet? *looks around*

 :(

Is what there?  ??? There's not another chapter due yet is there?

I am on serious tenterhooks since the ending of the last one.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 21, 2006, 05:11:38 pm
Is what there?  ??? There's not another chapter due yet is there?

I am on serious tenterhooks since the ending of the last one.

Karen

No, I'm sorry, I was hoping a miracle had happened... not until Friday or the weekend... :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on November 21, 2006, 06:01:01 pm
Oh well, the longer we have to wait the more there is to look forward to! (She said, with fake cheer  ::) )

That last section of chapter 13, with Jack looking at himself in the mirror and seeing himself at peace, already gone.........? It reminded me so much of a section of Romeo and Juliet that I had to look the passage up. It's the last words that Juliet speaks to Romeo and it goes like this:


O God, I have an ill-divining soul!
Methinks I see thee, now thou art below,
As one dead in the bottom of a tomb:
Either my eyesight fails, or thou look'st pale.



Yup, that's just what Jack sees in his own reflection in that mirror. Romeo's reply, that they're pale because "Dry sorrow drinks their blood" is fitting for SoG too...........  :-\


That said, and Shakespeare out of the way for now, I don't quite see how Jack can make the deal with Hinestroza over the phone. Hinestroza knows Jack has agreed to witness against him, and that he is in protective custody, so wouldn't he think the phone call was just a FBI ploy to incriminate him? That the phone was being tapped, and any admission he'd make to knowing Jack, let alone any open agreement made to spare Ennis's life if Jack turns himself over to Madrigal, - might be used in evidence? Or would that be considered inadmissible in court as coerced evidence, and would H. know that? **scratches head **
I mean, it's not like the case against Hinestroza is watertight - if Jack doesn't witness there isn't much of a case apparently, so certainly H. must be wary that the FBI would be delighted to have him incriminating himself on tape.

Yet if H. does not first give Jack an unambiguous promise to stay Madrigal's hand where Ennis is concerned, why should Jack go through with any agreed trade and sacrifice himself?

I'm anxiously waiting to see how all this will play out.....

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 21, 2006, 06:06:20 pm
Great post, Mikaela! I love the R&J passage you mentioned...

I never thought of it like that, that H. might not trust the deal.  :-\ You have a point... This is puzzling...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 21, 2006, 09:28:47 pm
Ooooh, I wish I could answer these questions!  I will be posting Friday morning, unless something unexpected happens in RL!  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 21, 2006, 09:40:12 pm
Oh, and on the phone call issue...generally recorded calls are very hard to admit into evidence b/c of the hearsay rules.  But you guys are definitely hitting on something....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 22, 2006, 06:21:14 am
Oh, and on the phone call issue...generally recorded calls are very hard to admit into evidence b/c of the hearsay rules.  But you guys are definitely hitting on something....

Amy - you do love teasing us  ;)

Of course I'm so dense I can never see where the plot is going. Just look how I slandered poor Colin. Any of my esteemed SoG co-fans have any idea what might be coming up? Let's have some wild speculation whilst we wait for an update.  ;D

You have to know that the anticipation or the next chapter is reaching fever pitch! However, I'm sure that we can contain ourselves until Friday.

I hope that you and your loved ones have a lovely Thanksgiving.

Karen

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 22, 2006, 08:26:18 am

Of course I'm so dense I can never see where the plot is going. Just look how I slandered poor Colin. Any of my esteemed SoG co-fans have any idea what might be coming up? Let's have some wild speculation whilst we wait for an update.  ;D







Heh heh Karen ~ I do always love reading your posts though! Hmmm ~ do *I* have anything sensible to say?  ::)

 ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 22, 2006, 08:39:58 am
Oh I am so glad it's going to be Friday! Hope nothing RL happens to Amy before that!!!  :o
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 22, 2006, 12:22:31 pm
Can Friday be right now?? Please? I seriously need a pick me up this morning...

I have no intelligent speculation, all I know is I'm worried about Jack  :'(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on November 22, 2006, 01:12:56 pm
Quote
Oh, and on the phone call issue...generally recorded calls are very hard to admit into evidence b/c of the hearsay rules.  But you guys are definitely hitting on something....

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Let's have some wild speculation whilst we wait for an update. 

I think I've never been following any other fic that called out quite as much for speculation as this one does. Other quality fics often carry me along, letting the story unfold in my mind at its own pace and in its own time, and I'm more content with that and less eager to outrun the author....

SoG is something else.  ;D And there have been a few really unexpected plot twists along the way, making me all the more curious and eager to speculate.......


So OK, some wild speculation coming up:

I've been thinking that probably Jack's offer to Hinestroza of a trade between his own life and Ennis's safety would be accepted. Consequently that Jack'd leave Ennis to go hand himself over to Madrigal, and that Ennis would have to figure out where they are and go after them to rescue Jack in the very nick of time. But with Amy's most recent post, I'm thinking maybe not........

So therefore; some alternatives;  :laugh:

Alternative scenario 1:
Hinestroza refuses to talk to Jack on the phone because of security concerns. Jack is unable to make any trade.  Ennis discovers the call made from his phone, and somehow guesses at what it was all about. Is floored,  angry, scared for Jack. Decides the only way to save Jack (and himself) is to take the war to Madrigal (and Hinestroza) instead of running from them...... Somehow figures out where Madrigal is, and goes after him. Manages to nail him. In turn this calamity for the dark side makes Hinestroza leave his safe ground to direct operations against J&E himself in the US. Hinestroza is caught, or killed....... Jack and Ennis go undergound for good - together.

Alternative scenario 2:
Hinestroza hears Jack out on the phone, but makes no commitment. He learns about Jack's love for Ennis through their talk, though. He therefore finds out more about Ennis, and sends Madrigal after Alma to use her to pressure Ennis and Jack. Once more, they have to fight back.......  :o


I realize that whatever else I think happen, I sincerely hope and believe that Madrigal will not be left free to continue his life of horror as before when the fic ends. Madrigal needs to be dealt with in no uncertain terms. He'll probably go down fighting so I can't really see him surviving. I think the fic (and our heroes) didn't really dig all that seriously into the possibility of locating Madrigal when they discussed it previously, the matter was dismissed rather out of hand. However, if locating him becomes the only way out, then I think they might revisit that option and use FBI resources to do so to. And hopefully somehow Hinestroza will not be left free either - but given Jack's ambivalent relationship with him there is a wider field of outcomes for Hinestroza....

~~~

Well, Friday it is. Then we'll know a bit more. It's fun speculating in the meantime!

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 22, 2006, 02:19:24 pm
I think I've never been following any other fic that called out quite as much for speculation as this one does. Other quality fics often carry me along, letting the story unfold in my mind at its own pace and in its own time, and I'm more content with that and less eager to outrun the author....

SoG is something else.  ;D And there have been a few really unexpected plot twists along the way, making me all the more curious and eager to speculate.......


So OK, some wild speculation coming up:

I've been thinking that probably Jack's offer to Hinestroza of a trade between his own life and Ennis's safety would be accepted. Consequently that Jack'd leave Ennis to go hand himself over to Madrigal, and that Ennis would have to figure out where they are and go after them to rescue Jack in the very nick of time. But with Amy's most recent post, I'm thinking maybe not........

So therefore; some alternatives;  :laugh:

Alternative scenario 1:
Hinestroza refuses to talk to Jack on the phone because of security concerns. Jack is unable to make any trade.  Ennis discovers the call made from his phone, and somehow guesses at what it was all about. Is floored,  angry, scared for Jack. Decides the only way to save Jack (and himself) is to take the war to Madrigal (and Hinestroza) instead of running from them...... Somehow figures out where Madrigal is, and goes after him. Manages to nail him. In turn this calamity for the dark side makes Hinestroza leave his safe ground to direct operations against J&E himself in the US. Hinestroza is caught, or killed....... Jack and Ennis go undergound for good - together.

Alternative scenario 2:
Hinestroza hears Jack out on the phone, but makes no commitment. He learns about Jack's love for Ennis through their talk, though. He therefore finds out more about Ennis, and sends Madrigal after Alma to use her to pressure Ennis and Jack. Once more, they have to fight back.......  :o


I realize that whatever else I think happen, I sincerely hope and believe that Madrigal will not be left free to continue his life of horror as before when the fic ends. Madrigal needs to be dealt with in no uncertain terms. He'll probably go down fighting so I can't really see him surviving. I think the fic (and our heroes) didn't really dig all that seriously into the possibility of locating Madrigal when they discussed it previously, the matter was dismissed rather out of hand. However, if locating him becomes the only way out, then I think they might revisit that option and use FBI resources to do so to. And hopefully somehow Hinestroza will not be left free either - but given Jack's ambivalent relationship with him there is a wider field of outcomes for Hinestroza....

~~~

Well, Friday it is. Then we'll know a bit more. It's fun speculating in the meantime!


Don't read too much into that recent post of mine.  It was a small little detail I was talking about.....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 22, 2006, 04:51:29 pm
Don't read too much into that recent post of mine.  It was a small little detail I was talking about.....

Amy, you should know by now that we SoG addicts are going to over analyse any little morsel that you throw our way  :laugh:

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on November 22, 2006, 05:47:04 pm
What Karen said.  :)

I get very wordy and analytical when I'm really into something. I'll try to curb my enthusiasm.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 22, 2006, 05:49:41 pm
I get very wordy and analytical when I'm really into something. I'll try to curb my enthusiasm.

Oh no, don't Mikaela, it's so much fun to read!  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 22, 2006, 05:52:25 pm
What Karen said.  :)

I get very wordy and analytical when I'm really into something. I'll try to curb my enthusiasm.

Oh no, please don't. I found what you wrote very interesting. I love seeing other people's take on where the plot might be going. And this fic certainly deserves discussion.

And it is something to keep us amused till the next update  ;D

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on November 22, 2006, 06:11:10 pm
Sure enough, it does merit discussion.  :)

Plus, it's difficult to type speculations *and* bite fingernails to the quick at the same time, - and at this juncture in SoG, if I'm not doing the one, I'm nearly bound to be doing the other!   :o   :laugh:
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 22, 2006, 06:14:15 pm
Plus, it's difficult to type speculations *and* bite fingernails to the quick at the same time, - and at this juncture in SoG, if I'm not doing the one, I'm nearly bound to be doing the other!   :o   :laugh:

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Keep them coming Mikaela!

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 22, 2006, 07:03:07 pm

Keep them coming Mikaela!



Yeah, I think your ideas are really good!  Don't stop speculating on my account!   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 23, 2006, 09:14:45 am
What Karen said.  :)

I get very wordy and analytical when I'm really into something. I'll try to curb my enthusiasm.

No! No! Please don't. I'm just catching up on the thread, I've been abroad for a few days and I find all your speculation totally fascinating!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 23, 2006, 09:16:55 am
Can Friday be right now?? Please? I seriously need a pick me up this morning...

I have no intelligent speculation, all I know is I'm worried about Jack  :'(

Me neither  ;D  ::)

But will it be a pick me up chapter though?? I dont think so  :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 23, 2006, 09:27:43 am
Me neither  ;D  ::)

But will it be a pick me up chapter though?? I dont think so  :(

No, I think this next chapter will be pretty depressing...

But still, anytime I see a Shades update it puts a smile on my face  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on November 23, 2006, 05:51:25 pm
Not long now till Friday. As if anyone here hasn't been counting down. ;D

One more tiny piece of speculation from me while I'm waiting: That other tattoo Jack's got, the Yin/Yang symbol on his left shoulder, close to his heart? I'm speculating that towards the end of the fic that tattoo will be mentioned especially and acknowledged by Ennis (and Jack) as a symbol - as THE symbol -  meant to represent the two of them together. Which it does in BBM-verse, of course, - but in SoG so far all the focus has been on the snake tattoo and nothing on the other....




Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on November 23, 2006, 05:56:43 pm
What time does she normally post the chapters? Does anyone know?

Because I would like to be online the second she posts it; even if it's in the middle of the night.  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 23, 2006, 05:59:19 pm
It's almost Friday in Holland, does that count?

She normally posts around 5.30 pm Holland time, so that should be 11.30 pm for you, David! Right?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on November 23, 2006, 06:01:26 pm
It's almost Friday in Holland, does that count?

She normally posts around 5.30 pm Holland time, so that should be 11.30 pm for you, David! Right?

Are you serious? This means I still have to wait more than 24 hours... hell more like 30 hours.

Yes, I think so Melissa. I won't be able to take it.  :'(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on November 23, 2006, 06:04:17 pm
I seem to recall her saying she'd post this one Friday morning. Morning her time, which is..... uhm. Not quite sure where in the US she lives. But somewhere in the Midwest time zone(s), would be my guess.  :laugh:

If so, she'll probably be posting somewhat earlier than 5.30 PM Central European, which is great for those who have the possibility to hower near the computer. Unfortunately that's not me this time.  I may not get to read it till very late Friday....... or even Saturday, actually.  :o :o  **sigh**
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on November 23, 2006, 06:09:04 pm
I seem to recall her saying she'd post this one Friday morning. Morning her time, which is..... uhm. Not quite sure where in the US she lives. But somewhere in the Midwest time zone(s), would be my guess.  :laugh:

If so, she'll probably be posting somewhat earlier than 5.30 PM Central European, which is great for those who have the possibility to hower near the computer. Unfortunately that's not me this time.  I may not get to read it till very late Friday....... or even Saturday, actually.  :o :o  **sigh**

Oh. So she will be posting this in the morning over here? That sounds better. This makes sense too because it is later in Europe, not earlier. I don't know why I thought it was later here than over there.

I'm so confused right now!  :P

Thanks Mikaela and Melissa!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 23, 2006, 08:57:47 pm
oh no! I just realized I won't be home until late tomorrow night  :'(

I hate having to work on a Shades update day!!!  >:(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 24, 2006, 05:29:31 am
oh no! I just realized I won't be home until late tomorrow night  :'(

I hate having to work on a Shades update day!!!  >:(

Aw Mandy  :(  and Mikaela.

Thank God I have nothing planned for this afternoon  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 24, 2006, 05:34:06 am
I am based in the UK and the chapters normally go up at about 4:30pm. I print them off to read on my jounrney home. I'm off work today mind you, so I'l just have to log on later.

How nervous are we all about what lies ahead???
 
Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 24, 2006, 05:48:37 am
Amy's in Central Time, which is I think 6 hours behind GMT.  Eastern Time is 5 hours behind and Pacific is 8 hours behind.

We have her well trained and she generally posts between about 4.15 and 4.30pm GMT   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 24, 2006, 08:01:24 am
How nervous are we all about what lies ahead???

THIS   nervous!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 24, 2006, 08:05:17 am
THIS   nervous!!!!!!!!

LOL! Mel!!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 24, 2006, 08:15:53 am
Woo-wee Mel!

That is some amount of nervous!  :laugh:

Spot on though!

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 24, 2006, 08:28:45 am
God, I'm not even going to read the speculations anymore because I think what Amy has in store for us is going to be something completely different than any of us could have imagined!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 24, 2006, 09:35:09 am
God, I'm not even going to read the speculations anymore because I think what Amy has in store for us is going to be something completely different than any of us could have imagined!

Well, she's certainly kept us on our toes so far.

Hee hee... only a few hours to go (hopefully).

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 24, 2006, 11:16:59 am
Hey, guys, Chapter 14 of Shades is up at:  http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/7673.html

Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving!  Or a great Thursday if you're across the pond!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 24, 2006, 11:18:27 am
Hey, guys, Chapter 14 of Shades is up at:  http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/7673.html

Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving!  Or a great Thursday if you're across the pond!

The Thursday wasn't great, it was an agonising nightmare!!!!!  ;)
Thanks for the update and have a nice weekend!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 24, 2006, 11:52:41 am
OMG!!!!!

Well, have to dash out now to do boring stuff like grocery shopping, so will compose a more coherent response later.

But wow!

What a chapter.

Amy, if you were here before me I'd hug you!

Karen

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 24, 2006, 12:06:10 pm
Very intense chapter. As I said in my LJ response, speechless again. Maybe when I'm coherent I can write more.

Leslie.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 24, 2006, 03:55:28 pm
Wonderful chapter, kept me on the edge of my seat again! Nothing more coherent coming out of me right now...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 25, 2006, 09:27:56 pm
FINALLY got a chance to read the update... and wow.

I have nothing good to say, but that was absolutely perfect.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 26, 2006, 03:06:45 am
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/jakesmoke.jpg) (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/jake_towel_02.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 26, 2006, 03:08:14 am
But here Ennis was, having barely spoken five words to Dane Gentry, and already he hated his guts.  . . . . The man was just what Ennis had expected. Tough, cocky, over-confident.  His attitude worked well with his handsome face, although it pained Ennis to acknowledge it. His thick brown hair covered one leafy green eye, the muscles in his arms flexing as he reached for a cigarette, his mouth full like Jack’s but not as soft. . . .  Dane gave Ennis a half-smile around his cigarette, flicking the hair from his eye with a practiced toss of his head. – “Shades of Grey” by midwest_girl/Amy

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/jdepp.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on November 26, 2006, 03:45:32 am
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/jakesmoke.jpg) (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/jake_towel_02.jpg)


Oh SUCH!!

WHERE did you get these photos?  :D

I love it!  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on November 26, 2006, 03:47:58 am
But here Ennis was, having barely spoken five words to Dane Gentry, and already he hated his guts.  . . . . The man was just what Ennis had expected. Tough, cocky, over-confident.  His attitude worked well with his handsome face, although it pained Ennis to acknowledge it. His thick brown hair covered one leafy green eye, the muscles in his arms flexing as he reached for a cigarette, his mouth full like Jack’s but not as soft. . . .  Dane gave Ennis a half-smile around his cigarette, flicking the hair from his eye with a practiced toss of his head. – “Shades of Grey” by midwest_girl/Amy

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/jdepp.jpg)

Whew child.... here's another one!   8)

Keep 'em coming!  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on November 26, 2006, 03:57:11 am
Wonderful chapter, kept me on the edge of my seat again! Nothing more coherent coming out of me right now...

Yes! It truly was a remarkable chapter Amy! I loved it!  :D

Thank you once again for sharing your wonderful story with all of us!

i can't wait for chapter 15 now!!  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 26, 2006, 07:22:54 am
Loving all your pics, as always Leslie  :)

Jesus, that one of Jake in the towel has been a favourite of mine for AGES.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 26, 2006, 07:28:48 am
Jake SMOKES? :o

And not in a good way?

Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: magicmountain on November 26, 2006, 07:44:26 am
Somehow I picture Ennis in this story looking like this:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g153/averybell/grey.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 26, 2006, 07:58:44 am
Somehow I picture Ennis in this story looking like this:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g153/averybell/grey.jpg)

Oh yeah, definitely!!! I don't think Heath is very good-looking, but I like his looks, he is like a chameleon, he looks different in every picture. I love this SOG Ennis! Thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 26, 2006, 09:02:21 am
Somehow I picture Ennis in this story looking like this:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g153/averybell/grey.jpg)

There have been some really great other Shades pics of Ennis on this thread too, Jo but I'm too lazy to go back and see on which page they've been posted!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 26, 2006, 10:23:56 am
Here's Dane:

(http://pics.livejournal.com/baileymoyes/pic/0001b7p2)

June, I went back and found this one of Dane...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 26, 2006, 10:25:12 am
I like this pic for Ennis's face, but can't find a good picture of him in an FBI suit.


(http://www.kfilmu.net/obrazky/herci/heath-ledger.jpg)

And this is how I picture SoG Ennis when I'm writing....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 26, 2006, 10:51:00 am
Aw Amy ~ thanks for going back and finding them! It's so hot seeing that Dane one again, I wonder if he'll ever pop up again in the story? And I like your Shades Ennis the best too, he's so adorable in that pic  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 26, 2006, 11:04:36 am
You will be seeing both Dane and Alma again...... ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 26, 2006, 12:41:51 pm
You will be seeing both Dane and Alma again...... ;)

I'd like to hear more from Dane and you just can't get around Alma, can you?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 26, 2006, 12:56:46 pm
And this is how I picture SoG Ennis when I'm writing....

Oh he really is handsome in this one.... phew...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 26, 2006, 01:06:51 pm
I know Christian Bale is Dane, Amy, but it's only one photo and I need more! Johnny Depp is undeniably handsome, he smokes, and he has a lot of long-haired, arrogant photos. (see example below)

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/2496-Johnny.jpg)

I have a few photos of Heath in a black suit & tie with a white shirt (which I believe is the "uniform" for an F.B.I. agent) but I picture Ennis in your story as clean-shaven and neat most of the time and Heath often looks scruffy in his photos. (see example below)

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/1561_88843941_hl_H165120_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on November 26, 2006, 01:10:47 pm
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/jdepp.jpg)

Sex on legs.

This is weird too, because this is very close to how I pictured Dane as I was reading the story.  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 26, 2006, 01:13:24 pm
This is one of my fave Heath photos

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/ledger_horz.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 26, 2006, 01:14:33 pm
two more photos of the legendary ledger

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/ledger004.jpg)

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/ledger018.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 26, 2006, 01:16:32 pm
This is one of my fave Heath photos

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/ledger_horz.jpg)

I love this one for SoG Ennis.  I think it's taken the same time as the one I posted.  All the FBI Agents I know wear suits, usually black or grey, white shirts (occassionally blue) and all colors/patterns of ties. 

I think Johnny Depp looks too feminine in that picture, that's what's throwing me off.  Dane, in my mind, is more masculine looking than that and his hair isn't so long.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 26, 2006, 01:17:00 pm
scruffy doesn't begin to describe this depp photo... looks like he just got out of jail !

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/The%20Performance/johnnydepp.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 26, 2006, 01:27:12 pm
You're right, Depp is very pretty, kind of a hard-ass sometimes, but not hard-edged.

Mel, Jake used to smoke. I cropped out Kristen, who was walking next to him and also smoking. But I understand Jake quit smoking. He would not have been able to bike through the French alps if he smoked, IMO. There are few photos of Jake with a cigarette in his hand. Let's hope he quit. And let's hope Heath & Michelle quit smoking for the sake of the baby.

I love having these little side discussions with you all.  :-*

Leslie
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 26, 2006, 01:33:58 pm
I love this one for SoG Ennis.  I think it's taken the same time as the one I posted.  All the FBI Agents I know wear suits, usually black or grey, white shirts (occassionally blue) and all colors/patterns of ties. 

I think Johnny Depp looks too feminine in that picture, that's what's throwing me off.  Dane, in my mind, is more masculine looking than that and his hair isn't so long.

I love this one too, just adorable  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 26, 2006, 01:35:30 pm

I love having these little side discussions with you all.  :-*

Leslie

Me too  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 26, 2006, 05:20:22 pm
I know this belongs on the Heath Heath Heath thread, but does anybody have any idea why he dresses so scruffy and doesn't give a **** how he looks? It's cute in a way and I love it when people don't give a thing about what other people think and dress the way they want to, which Heath does with his sometimes eccentric pick of clothes. But some of the pictures I see of Heath make me wonder if he cares at all, he is a good-looking guy and often looks gorgeous (as in the SOG-Ennis picture just here), but he seems to want to hide it. Does it have anything to do with his bad relationship with the press or does he do his utmost best not to be recognised? Do I make sense?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 27, 2006, 12:21:04 am
You make sense, Mel. I think Heath just may be one of those guys who doesn't care and/or doesn't really know how to dress. He should go see Jake's tailor!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 27, 2006, 12:22:40 am
these aren't FBI photos, just some great photos of our SofG Jack.

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Which%20Jake/jakebars.jpg)

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Which%20Jake/jake-balcoony.jpg)

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 27, 2006, 12:23:11 am
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Which%20Jake/c-gyllenhaal136.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 27, 2006, 12:24:26 am
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Which%20Jake/eyeingJG.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 27, 2006, 12:24:55 am
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Which%20Jake/jake1.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 27, 2006, 12:45:16 am

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Which%20Jake/jake-balcoony.jpg)



Guh!!!  This one KILLS me..ded....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 27, 2006, 12:46:24 am
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Which%20Jake/c-gyllenhaal136.jpg)

*sigh*  ::)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 27, 2006, 03:42:38 am
*sigh*  ::)

*and another sigh*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 27, 2006, 08:10:30 am
Can I add one?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 27, 2006, 08:12:39 am
Can I add one?

Of course Mel!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 27, 2006, 08:35:11 am
Forget the sighs, I'm adding a


*THUD*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 27, 2006, 08:36:54 am
*Sigh...*

Oh no..... here we go again.....

I can't stop myself....

IS IT THURSDAY YET?  

Oh I have an idea, can we make swap Monday and Thursday? That way, it would be Thursday today! Clever huh?

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 27, 2006, 08:49:20 am
*Sigh...*

Oh no..... here we go again.....

I can't stop myself....

IS IT THURSDAY YET?  

Oh I have an idea, can we make swap Monday and Thursday? That way, it would be Thursday today! Clever huh?



Heh ~ *very* clever Mel!!  ;D Wishful thinking!  :D  God, I don't allow myself to think about Shades yet on Monday or I'd go insane, I think!!  ::)

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 27, 2006, 09:13:27 am
Forget the sighs, I'm adding a


*THUD*

 ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 27, 2006, 09:15:21 am
I've made a to-do list of things to find out in the next chapter(s)... please feel free to add if you think of anything...;)

* The deal E made with H. We want to find out exactly what it is H promised E. And what E promised H.
* Will J make it out of the hospital alive (well, OK, we kind of know that one)
* Is E ready for that life with J?
* Is J ready to believe in his own happiness and a life with E?
* Will E tell C what is going on between him and J?
* How will C react?
* Will C prove to be the friend that E thought he had or will he have to be the FBI agent?
* Will the FBI believe his story?
* E will have to tell A about J
* How will A react?
* We know that D will be back too. What will be D's role?
* How will he react when he finds out about J and E?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 27, 2006, 09:26:44 am
We're wishing our lives away here. The last chapter was so fantastic though, it's natural for us to be breathlessly awaiting the next one.

SPOILER

OK, now that I've read it a few times and my thicko brain has absorbed all the details I'm curious as to why Ennis did not tell Colin and other law enforcement types that Hinestroza was there. It seems that he escaped in Madrigal's car. Surely Ennis wants him caught and stopped.

I also liked the lines of symmetry here. Jack, not Ennis, disposes of Madrigal, his nemesis for many years. However, I think that Ennis will end up making the final confrontation with Hinestroza. A kind of showdown. There has been more than one comparison to each of their relationships with Jack. How they have each tried to control Jack's actions (Ennis comparing himself to Hinestroza on occasion). I see it somewhat like higher powers fighting for the soul of a mortal - will good or evil triumph?

I'm not sure that I've made much sense here, but I hope y'all get the gist of my meaning. And of course there is the Dane/Alma angle too (can't make my little brain speculate about what they might do). I'd like to think that utlimately Dane would help Jack because of their friendship, and because he would understand how it feels to fall for Jack. As for Alma - I dunno.

Of course... I could be wrong... it's not like I haven't been before  :laugh: Repeatedly  :laugh:

Karen

P.S. Amy - I guess it's too late in the story to work in that donkey getaway?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 27, 2006, 09:50:58 am
SPOILER

OK, now that I've read it a few times and my thicko brain has absorbed all the details I'm curious as to why Ennis did not tell Colin and other law enforcement types that Hinestroza was there. It seems that he escaped in Madrigal's car. Surely Ennis wants him caught and stopped.

Ennis has two reasons for letting H. go. If the FBI catches H. then he will be put on trial and 1. Jack will have to testify and go into WPP (which is unsafe and would make it impossible for them to have a life together) and 2. Jack will still be in danger, even though H. is behind bars, because he would still be able to order Jack's death.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 27, 2006, 09:53:14 am
BTW- (sorry to side-track and go slightly OT while remaining in the realms of police and maffia) has anybody seen The Departed?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on November 27, 2006, 09:55:04 am
Ennis has two reasons for letting H. go. If the FBI catches H. then he will be put on trial and 1. Jack will have to testify and go into WPP (which is unsafe and would make it impossible for them to have a life together) and 2. Jack will still be in danger, even though H. is behind bars, because he would still be able to order Jack's death.


*nods*

Ennis made a deal with Hinestroza  I think.  In letting him go, Ennis was ensuring Jack's safety in the future.  If jack had tesitified, like Mel said, the whole WP thing comes into play and that would mean Jack disappearing from Ennis's life and also that Jack would forever be looking over his shoulder.

I think the deal was that they let H go and H lets Jack go.  And they are quits. 
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 27, 2006, 10:02:35 am
Ahh...

Ahhhh...

Ahhhhhh...

I see.

I never thought of that angle. Makes perfect sense.

Thank you.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 27, 2006, 03:07:51 pm

*nods*

Ennis made a deal with Hinestroza  I think.  In letting him go, Ennis was ensuring Jack's safety in the future.  If jack had tesitified, like Mel said, the whole WP thing comes into play and that would mean Jack disappearing from Ennis's life and also that Jack would forever be looking over his shoulder.

I think the deal was that they let H go and H lets Jack go.  And they are quits. 

You girls are geniuses... I also never thought of that. Intriguing....  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 27, 2006, 04:52:21 pm
You girls are geniuses... I also never thought of that. Intriguing....  :D

Yeah they are! Why can't we never come up with this stuff eh, Mandy??  ::)

 ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on November 28, 2006, 01:41:13 am
BTW- (sorry to side-track and go slightly OT while remaining in the realms of police and maffia) has anybody seen The Departed?
                  yes i saw it and thought it was exceptionally good...matt damon made his best job as an actor i think and leo was his usual studied self....good movie                                        janice
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 28, 2006, 06:09:53 am
                  yes i saw it and thought it was exceptionally good...matt damon made his best job as an actor i think and leo was his usual studied self....good movie                                        janice

Yeah I thought it was really good too! If any of you haven't seen it, I urge you to see it!!!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 28, 2006, 01:13:15 pm
Hey Tuesday sounds a lot like Thursday, do you think we could fool Amy into thinking it's Thursday?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on November 28, 2006, 02:34:44 pm
Hey Tuesday sounds a lot like Thursday, do you think we could fool Amy into thinking it's Thursday?

I doubt it. I think we will have to be patient and wait it out. Of course you are welcome to try, and if you succeed we will give you full credit for it.  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on November 28, 2006, 03:23:04 pm
I've made a to-do list of things to find out in the next chapter(s)... please feel free to add if you think of anything...;)

* The deal E made with H. We want to find out exactly what it is H promised E. And what E promised H.
* Will J make it out of the hospital alive (well, OK, we kind of know that one)
* Is E ready for that life with J?
* Is J ready to believe in his own happiness and a life with E?
* Will E tell C what is going on between him and J?
* How will C react?
* Will C prove to be the friend that E thought he had or will he have to be the FBI agent?
* Will the FBI believe his story?
* E will have to tell A about J
* How will A react?
* We know that D will be back too. What will be D's role?
* How will he react when he finds out about J and E?

Nice list Melissa! Those are good questions too!

* The deal E made with H. We want to find out exactly what it is H promised E. And what E promised H.  We'll have to wait.

* Will J make it out of the hospital alive (well, OK, we kind of know that one) I think I know the answer too, but we'll have to wait.
* Is E ready for that life with J? I think Amy is going to make us wait.
* Is J ready to believe in his own happiness and a life with E? *sigh* We'll have to wait.
* Will E tell C what is going on between him and J? We'll have to wait.
* How will C react? I hate to say this, but I think we'll have to wait.
* Will C prove to be the friend that E thought he had or will he have to be the FBI agent? Wait wait wait.  :'(
* Will the FBI believe his story? We'll have to wait!
* E will have to tell A about J We'll have to......WAIT!
* How will A react? We have to wait.
* We know that D will be back too. What will be D's role? More waiting.
* How will he react when he finds out about J and E? I have an idea, but we'll have to wait.

Those are great questions Melissa.... but I think we have to wait.  :P








Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 28, 2006, 03:32:23 pm
OMG David ~ that was hilarious!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 28, 2006, 04:14:11 pm
Nice list Melissa! Those are good questions too!

* The deal E made with H. We want to find out exactly what it is H promised E. And what E promised H.  We'll have to wait.

* Will J make it out of the hospital alive (well, OK, we kind of know that one) I think I know the answer too, but we'll have to wait.
* Is E ready for that life with J? I think Amy is going to make us wait.
* Is J ready to believe in his own happiness and a life with E? *sigh* We'll have to wait.
* Will E tell C what is going on between him and J? We'll have to wait.
* How will C react? I hate to say this, but I think we'll have to wait.
* Will C prove to be the friend that E thought he had or will he have to be the FBI agent? Wait wait wait.  :'(
* Will the FBI believe his story? We'll have to wait!
* E will have to tell A about J We'll have to......WAIT!
* How will A react? We have to wait.
* We know that D will be back too. What will be D's role? More waiting.
* How will he react when he finds out about J and E? I have an idea, but we'll have to wait.

Those are great questions Melissa.... but I think we have to wait.  :P


LOL! I think the keyword here is..... WAIT!!!!!!!!...

God I hate waiting....

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 28, 2006, 04:46:20 pm
David ~
 What are you saying? Be specific and don't beat around the bush. (ok I know I'll get a smart-alecky answer on that last sentence)  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 28, 2006, 06:06:02 pm
You guys are cracking me up!  And in the spirit of waiting...it may be Friday before Chapter 15 goes up.  I'll know for sure by tomorrow night and I'll let you know.  And I promise at least a few of those questions you have will be answered in the new chapter, but not all of them.  *runs away and hides*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 28, 2006, 06:35:15 pm
No need to run away and hide Amy... we mean you no harm, not even after you telling us it might be FRIDAY    until we will have at least some of those questions answered, really Amy... no harm... trust us....  >:(

 ;)

You can all see that I have finally figured out how to make words bigger...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 28, 2006, 06:56:57 pm
Shit Mel ~ I nearly fell outta my chair when I clicked onto this page! Jeeezus, thats HUUUUUUUUGE and bright! LOL!

 ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on November 28, 2006, 07:01:42 pm
Shit Mel ~ I nearly fell outta my chair when I clicked onto this page! Jeeezus, thats HUUUUUUUUGE and bright! LOL!

 ;D

I think Melissa must be feeling bold and colorful today.  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 28, 2006, 07:03:15 pm
Lemme try something too! Just because I'm bored and a baby  :P



HUGE
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 28, 2006, 08:16:57 pm
Might be Friday eh?

Oh well, that'll give my extraordinarily slow synapses time to finish processing the last chapter.

It'll also give the rest of you a break before I start asking stupid questions again.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 29, 2006, 06:25:05 am
Might be Friday eh?

Oh well, that'll give my extraordinarily slow synapses time to finish processing the last chapter.

It'll also give the rest of you a break before I start asking stupid questions again.

Karen

Aw Karen! You don't ask or say stupid things! I always love reading your posts, also on the E and E thread  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 29, 2006, 07:00:14 am
Aw Karen! You don't ask or say stupid things! I always love reading your posts, also on the E and E thread  :)

Ahh June, that's very sweet of you to say so.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 29, 2006, 12:48:54 pm
It's Thursday tomorrow!  ;D

I'm going to click my heels together and repeat

"Amy will update today"
"Amy will update today"

Feel free to join me - the power of positive thought and all that.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 29, 2006, 12:51:14 pm
I am joining you Karen! I will chant "Amy will update today" all the way back home!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 29, 2006, 03:59:22 pm
Hey, guys, your chanting worked.  I'll be updating tomorrow morning (CST) at the usual time.   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 29, 2006, 04:17:40 pm
YAY!!!   ;D

If i knew how to do big letters like Mel, that YAY would have been big and red... I can't wait for the update  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 29, 2006, 04:30:47 pm
YAY!!!   ;D

If i knew how to do big letters like Mel, that YAY would have been big and red... I can't wait for the update  :)

I'll do it for you!

YAY!!!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on November 29, 2006, 04:51:10 pm
This is wonderful news Amy!

I was going to start chanting too! I was even thinking about lighting a bunch of candles and incense.

I'm glad I don't have to do it. I probably would have burned my house down.

Yeah, I was that desperate!  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 29, 2006, 04:54:01 pm
I'll do it for you!

YAY!!!!

Thanks  ;D I think that sums up how I feel about this quite nicely  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 29, 2006, 05:23:36 pm
And I'll second those Yays!

Ahh... the power of Oz, it always works.  ;)

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on November 29, 2006, 07:04:33 pm
I'll do it for you!

YAY!!!!

Can we look forward to more colorful messages from you in the future Melissa?

I LOVE IT!!!!

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on November 30, 2006, 05:26:46 am
Not having internet access while I was away means I get to read THREE chapters tomorrow. I'm happy as a working pornstar on the set <g>
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 30, 2006, 08:12:04 am
I'm happy as a working pornstar on the set <g>

LOL!!

 :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 30, 2006, 08:17:57 am
You guys! It's Thursday!!!!!
JOEPIE!!!!

Ok, honestly, that was the last time! I'm so sorry!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on November 30, 2006, 09:25:23 am
Not having internet access while I was away means I get to read THREE chapters tomorrow. I'm happy as a working pornstar on the set <g>

You know what, I'm envious of the roller coaster of a ride you've got ahead of you as you read the past couple of chapters.

Roll on update time.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 30, 2006, 12:12:42 pm
You guys! It's Thursday!!!!!
JOEPIE!!!!

Ok, honestly, that was the last time! I'm so sorry!

Oh I don't mind Mel!!  :D

I think it's about time now!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 30, 2006, 12:13:04 pm
After weeks of saying I should call in sick on Shades Day... guess who is actually home sick today?? Yep, that would be me, I actually have an excuse to be reading Shades instead of going to work  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Come on update! I'm here to tell you it's 10:12 central time...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 30, 2006, 12:16:01 pm
After weeks of saying I should call in sick on Shades Day... guess who is actually home sick today?? Yep, that would be me, I actually have an excuse to be reading Shades instead of going to work  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Come on update! I'm here to tell you it's 10:12 central time...

Hey Mandy! How are you feeling today? Better I hope!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 30, 2006, 12:20:23 pm
Hey Mandy! How are you feeling today? Better I hope!

Hi Mel! Yeah I'm better today, I should be okay to go back to work tomorrow, I hope  :-\ I really thought I would be back by now...

Oh well, i'm definitely not minding lounging on the couch and catching up on some fan fic reading!  ::)

Thanks for asking  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 30, 2006, 12:25:39 pm
Who is Joe Pie?    ???
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 30, 2006, 12:28:31 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHA! I'm sorry it's Yeehaw in Dutch!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 30, 2006, 12:40:43 pm
Hey, guys Chapter 15 is up at: http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/8119.html   Thanks!   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 30, 2006, 01:14:29 pm
Great chapter!!  ;D I was wondering where you were going to take it from here because it seemed kind of final with Heinstroza and Madrigal being gone and I love this new direction.

****SPOILERS AHEAD******




I said this in my comment, but it feels right that they stay apart for just a little bit. It's painful and I want them together but right now I think it's best for them

And I just wanted to say that I love this convo between Ennis and Dane! I think it is incredibly vivid and well written and I really love Dane in this chapter...


Dane’s steps slowed slightly as he recognized Ennis. “Hey,” he drawled, coming to a full stop.

“Have you been in with Jack?”

“Yeah.”

“How’s he doing?”

“Why don’t you go see for yourself?” Dane said, flicking ash onto the pavement.

Ennis looked away, stomping down the urge to take his pain out on Dane’s handsome face. He wanted to do better than to re-play the script they’d followed during their first meeting, acting like dogs marking their territory. He owed Jack more than that. And the bottom line was that if not for Dane, Jack would be suffering all alone. Ennis spoke quietly, the rough edges tempered from his voice, “They won’t let me see him. An Agent I work with told me you’ve been here most every day.”

Dane studied him for a long moment, awareness flickering through his clear green eyes. “He’s getting better. But it’s slow going. His shoulder was infected, but they got that under control. They had to take his kidney three days ago.”

Ennis pushed against his closed eyes with thumb and forefinger. “Christ,” he breathed.

“It’s been rough. He’s not talking much, he sleeps most of the time.”

“When’s he getting out?”

“They’re not sure. Maybe tomorrow, maybe the day after.”

Ennis shoved his hands into the front pockets of his jeans. “Where’s he going to go?”

“My place,” Dane said. “He doesn’t have anyplace else and someone’s got to take care of him for awhile.” Like Ennis’s anger, the cockiness was retreating from Dane’s voice. He sounded tired and sad and Ennis realized with an anguished jolt that whatever Jack’s feelings, on Dane’s end it had been love and probably still was.

“Will you tell him…will you tell him I was here, that I’m thinking about him?” Ennis’s voice was unsteady, his eyes avoiding Dane’s.

Dane paused, looking away for a moment, his face stiff with reluctance. “Yeah, I’ll do that,” he said finally. “For Jack.”

Ennis nodded, shamed a little by Dane’s words. He’d thought the man had no redeeming qualities when they’d first met, couldn’t imagine what Jack had ever seen in him beyond his face. But Dane was putting what Jack needed above his own desires, letting Ennis breach a space he coveted for himself. Ennis didn’t know if he’d have it in him to do the same if he were in Dane’s shoes. “Tell him I’ll call him once the FBI Investigation is over. It shouldn’t be too much longer.”

“Okay.” Dane stood there for a moment, rolling on the balls of his feet. “Listen, man, I’ve got to go…” He pointed towards the lot.

“Sure, sure.” Ennis stepped out of his path. “Thanks.”

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 30, 2006, 02:44:27 pm
Who is Joe Pie?    ???

Oh God Leslie!! This is too funny!!!!!!! LOLLOLLOLLOL

 ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 30, 2006, 02:48:41 pm
Amy, noooooooooo!  :'(

I completely understand the direction you had to send this story in, but I am not going to say I wouldn't have preferred an upbeat chapter in which they had run into each other's arms crying and laughing at the same time.

I'm so glad that Jack told Ennis he loves him, hopefully that will give him the strength to work on himself and make Jack believe in a future for the two of them. I know that they have to work on things seperately before they can even contemplate building a future together. But it hurts, damn it hurts!

God this was such an intense chapter.... I am wrecked!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 30, 2006, 02:59:09 pm
Yeah Mel......I just felt this overwhelming sadness come over me after reading this last chapter. Just too much pain, so much healing to do  :(

I need to do some happy stuff now.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on November 30, 2006, 03:57:14 pm
Amy, noooooooooo!  :'(

I completely understand the direction you had to send this story in, but I am not going to say I wouldn't have preferred an upbeat chapter in which they had run into each other's arms crying and laughing at the same time.

I'm so glad that Jack told Ennis he loves him, hopefully that will give him the strength to work on himself and make Jack believe in a future for the two of them. I know that they have to work on things seperately before they can even contemplate building a future together. But it hurts, damn it hurts!

God this was such an intense chapter.... I am wrecked!


Yeah Mel......I just felt this overwhelming sadness come over me after reading this last chapter. Just too much pain, so much healing to do  :(

I need to do some happy stuff now.


I just got home a little while ago and I haven't had a chance to read this chapter yet. Do I even want to? This doesn't sound good at all!

Oh God.  :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on November 30, 2006, 04:02:40 pm
Who is Joe Pie?    ???

I spoke fluent Dutch when I was a little boy, but I didn't know what this word meant either Leslie.

Melissa taught it to me.  :)

It does look like it says Joe Pie, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 30, 2006, 04:06:12 pm
Amy - this was a great chapter - as always. Reminded me of an old movie like "Casablanca" where the hero and heroine love each other but are unable to be together. I'm hoping eventually the hero and hero of "Shades of Grey" will be able to be together.
I don't like to spend a lot of time quoting an author's work back at her, BUT... I do have a new signature line.  ;)

cc33 / Leslie

(P.S.: I don't trust that SOB Hinestrozza  >:(  )
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 30, 2006, 04:57:37 pm
a little levity to offset that last intense chapter?

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/threeturtles.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 30, 2006, 05:08:21 pm
Okay, Leslie, LMAO!!  Glad the bigger turtle with a better hold  on Jack is Ennis.. :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on November 30, 2006, 05:27:28 pm
Okay, Leslie, LMAO!!  Glad the bigger turtle with a better hold  on Jack is Ennis.. :D

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 30, 2006, 05:49:42 pm


I just got home a little while ago and I haven't had a chance to read this chapter yet. Do I even want to? This doesn't sound good at all!

Oh God.  :(

I'm sorry David ~ we should have put Spoilers on our posts  :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on November 30, 2006, 05:51:14 pm
Okay, Leslie, LMAO!!  Glad the bigger turtle with a better hold  on Jack is Ennis.. :D

LMAO too!!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 30, 2006, 07:26:58 pm
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/ralph_fiennes_98.jpg)


okay, okay, I know Amy has what's-his-name all picked out as Dane,
but wouldn't Ralph Fiennes make a good understudy in case something
happens to the other guy?!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on November 30, 2006, 08:44:52 pm
Who the hell is picked out as Dane?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on November 30, 2006, 08:56:05 pm
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k253/brokebackjack2006/billy_glide_cover_2633.jpg)
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k253/brokebackjack2006/50k2081.jpg)
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k253/brokebackjack2006/100UNKq189.jpg)
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k253/brokebackjack2006/fn015.jpg)

umm, how 'bout one a these roflmao????
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on November 30, 2006, 08:57:19 pm
I'm sort a partial to the 2 on the bottom, cause i know one of em lolololol
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 30, 2006, 09:28:49 pm
(http://pics.livejournal.com/baileymoyes/pic/0001b7p2/t9678z)

This is how I picture Dane.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on November 30, 2006, 09:32:38 pm
That picture fits his character. very much fits his character. I was being naughty
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on November 30, 2006, 10:47:53 pm
That picture fits his character. very much fits his character. I was being naughty

LOL, naughty is fine around here, I think.... ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on November 30, 2006, 10:55:12 pm
I know, Amy, but it's only ONE photo of Dane! ONE! And I need more. ... ** sigh**  well off to search for more turtles to post then.

Leslie
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on November 30, 2006, 10:57:02 pm
That photo is perfect though, especially for the image of Dane coming out of the hospital in this chapter... we'll just have to find more for you Leslie!  :D You know how we love more pictures around here  ::)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 01, 2006, 03:31:29 am
LOL, naughty is fine around here, I think.... ;)

Yep!

 ;D

 ::)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 01, 2006, 03:34:32 am
I know, Amy, but it's only ONE photo of Dane! ONE! And I need more. ... ** sigh**  well off to search for more turtles to post then.

Leslie

LOL!!

And yeah, I'd like more pics of *that* Dane too!!  ::)

BTW ~ I love the new Christmassy layout!  :)  Wish there was a little emoticon with a Christmas hat!!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on December 01, 2006, 04:57:24 am
SPOILER

Well.

What can I say?  :(

Been trying to think of a worthy response to this chapter - but my heart just feels too sore.

The rational part of me totally understands why Jack and Ennis need to be apart, but my emotional centre is just crying out - "No, let them be together. Let them take care of each other."

I hope that they can both deal with their healing and find their way back to each other.

I'll leave the intelligent analysis to the rest of you.

Amy, as always wonderful writing. I hope you realise just how deeply you affect us.

Karen

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 01, 2006, 07:37:37 am
SPOILER

The rational part of me totally understands why Jack and Ennis need to be apart, but my emotional centre is just crying out - "No, let them be together. Let them take care of each other."


Yeah, the more I think about this chapter, the more I FEEL that they should be doing this together. Like in that U2 song, sometimes you can't make it on your own.

 :'(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 01, 2006, 10:38:01 am
Yeah, the more I think about this chapter, the more I FEEL that they should be doing this together. Like in that U2 song, sometimes you can't make it on your own.

 :'(

Oh, but right now I think they have to.  Jack has to find some self-worth beyond Ennis, don't you think?  It can't all be tied up only in Ennis's love for him b/c that's too big of a burden for anyone to carry.  And Ennis has his own messes to clean up.  He's got to be the one to show Jack the way now, I think...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 01, 2006, 11:08:57 am
Oh, but right now I think they have to.  Jack has to find some self-worth beyond Ennis, don't you think?  It can't all be tied up only in Ennis's love for him b/c that's too big of a burden for anyone to carry.  And Ennis has his own messes to clean up.  He's got to be the one to show Jack the way now, I think...

You are right, as always... I know you're right, but I want them to be together and strong! I am a hopeless romantic and even though a while back on this thread I said that I wouldn't like a 'happy ever after' ending, I am now dying for one after all these angsty chapters.. forgive me Amy!

Hey one thing I was wondering about Amy, why did Ennis have to ask Dane how Jack was doing. Wouldn't he have been able to get that info from Colin?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 01, 2006, 11:14:58 am
Hey one thing I was wondering about Amy, why did Ennis have to ask Dane how Jack was doing. Wouldn't he have been able to get that info from Colin?

He would have, but I think he was reluctant to talk about Jack too much with Colin.  I probably should have made that part more clear.  Sorry!  I also think he probably thought he'd get a more personal account if he asked Dane.  And I think, subconsciously, he wanted to let Dane know he was around and also wanted Dane to tell Jack he was there, which I don't think he'd ask Colin to do. 
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 01, 2006, 11:41:59 am
He would have, but I think he was reluctant to talk about Jack too much with Colin.  I probably should have made that part more clear.  Sorry!  I also think he probably thought he'd get a more personal account if he asked Dane.  And I think, subconsciously, he wanted to let Dane know he was around and also wanted Dane to tell Jack he was there, which I don't think he'd ask Colin to do. 

OK, that makes sense...!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on December 01, 2006, 11:57:08 am
SPOILER

Sorry if this is obvious.

Now I'm wondering if Jack asked that they meet in a public place so that they would have to exercise restraint. I guess if they met in private somewhere then they would not be able to control their feelings for each other and the parting would have been so much more difficult. It was just so sad that they couldn't really offer each other much comfort outside of an embrace and a parting kiss. When someone you love is hurting you jast want to hold on to them.

God, this end scene just keeps playing round inside my head!

I'm hoping that next Thursday will bring some relief, but I suspect that Amy has more angst in store for us.

Is that right Amy?  ;)

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on December 01, 2006, 01:27:11 pm
I know you guys all liked the photo of Jake in a turtleneck last time I posted, so here's another one!  ;)

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Which%20Jake/jaketneck.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: bailey on December 01, 2006, 07:07:00 pm
I know you guys all liked the photo of Jake in a turtleneck last time I posted, so here's another one!  ;)

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Which%20Jake/jaketneck.jpg)

I am slain with gorgeousness.  And that goes for Shades too.  I really think it's the best Brokeback fanfic out there.  I've been riveted from the first word and this last chapter wound me up good.  Thank you, Amy for Shades. And thank you, Leslie for the Jake break.

bailey
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 01, 2006, 08:49:06 pm
I know you guys all liked the photo of Jake in a turtleneck last time I posted, so here's another one!  ;)

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Which%20Jake/jaketneck.jpg)

Did we??!? Hmmmm....LOL!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on December 02, 2006, 02:04:45 am
Amy...

I just read Chapter 15. I had problems logging into your livejournal yesterday and after reading a few of these messages posted here yesterday, I was afraid to read it tonight.

Poor Ennis!!  :'(

They will get back together again, won't they?

I suppose you may not want to answer that question.

Poor Ennis!  :'(

I'm really worried about what will happen in Chapter 16 now.

Poor Ennis!  :'(

It's okay if you don't want to answer my questions Amy.

Poor Ennis!  :'(

I guess we will just have to wait until next week to find out what happens next.

Poor Ennis!  :'(

I'll let ya'll go now. I just felt like venting my concerns.

Poor Ennis!  :'(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 02, 2006, 07:07:00 am
Poor Ennis!!  :'(

Poor Ennis!  :'(

Poor Ennis!  :'(

Poor Ennis!  :'(

Poor Ennis!  :'(

Poor Ennis!  :'(

Hey, what about poor Jack??  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 02, 2006, 08:02:17 am
Hey, what about poor Jack??  ;)

Yeah..... :'(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on December 02, 2006, 08:14:02 am
Hey - what about poor us?  :)

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 02, 2006, 08:15:48 am
Hey - what about poor us?  :)

Karen

Oh yeah.....that too..... :'(

 :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: souxi on December 02, 2006, 08:31:51 am
Oh yeah.....that too..... :'(

 :D

That three. Poor Ennis, poor Jack. That scene with him being tortured was harrowing to read. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 02, 2006, 08:34:27 am
Well hello cosmic twinnie!!  ;D  Good to see you here as well!  ;D  I didn't know you were reading Shades?!  :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 02, 2006, 08:49:06 am
God, I am still so sad from this latest chapter.... I read it again last night and couldn't help but feel totally frustrated by the ending. They love each other and now they have to face their demons all alone!  :'(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 02, 2006, 08:59:53 am
God, I am still so sad from this latest chapter.... I read it again last night and couldn't help but feel totally frustrated by the ending. They love each other and now they have to face their demons all alone!  :'(

I know exactly what you mean, Mel  :(  I haven't re-read it yet, can't bear to go there again atm..... :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 02, 2006, 10:58:46 am
I know exactly what you mean, Mel  :(  I haven't re-read it yet, can't bear to go there again atm..... :(

I had to reread it, I had to make sure I read it right, I just still can't believe the direction this story is going in. I never speculate that much about where it is going, but this I definitely did not see coming. I was so sad when Ennis couldn't go in and see Jack. That broke my heart. How is Ennis going to find Jack again? How long will it take before they can finally be together again? Will Jack move away?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on December 02, 2006, 02:51:29 pm
Hey, what about poor Jack??  ;)


Yeah..... :'(


Hey - what about poor us?  :)

Karen


Oh yeah.....that too..... :'(

 :D

Well! I see I'm the only member of the "Poor Ennis Club" right now. I have been feeling sorry for Jack throughout this entire story.... but I feel sorry for Ennis today. Hhere's why...

 :o :o SPOILERS!!!  :o :o

They wouldn't let Ennis up to the hospital room to see Jack, Jack has Dane to lean on right now (Ennis doesn't have anyone) and now Jack breaks up with Ennis and leaves him sitting on the park bench. Besides Ennis may lose his job now.

Poor Ennis.  :'(

But I  have a funny feeling about Colin. I think he might be "family".
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 02, 2006, 02:57:42 pm

But I  have a funny feeling about Colin. I think he might be "family".


Yeah you told me, what is that all about?  :o ;)

But I agree, we feel sorry for both of them, we ache for both of them...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 02, 2006, 03:19:26 pm


Well! I see I'm the only member of the "Poor Ennis Club" right now. I have been feeling sorry for Jack throughout this entire story.... but I feel sorry for Ennis today. Hhere's why...



I feel equally sorry for both of them, David  :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 02, 2006, 03:20:28 pm


But I  have a funny feeling about Colin. I think he might be "family".


Colin?!?!?!   :o

My goodness I never got that feeling from him at all.  What makes you say that?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on December 02, 2006, 05:17:34 pm
Amy has said that we haven't seen the last of Alma. I really hope that Ennis, in his awful loneliness doesn't try for the safe and straight life that he had planned before meeting Jack.

I have to hope that they are each going to work out their inner demons and find their way back to each other. What will be the trigger for this though I wonder? Will we be seeing Hinestroza again I wonder.

David I hope that you are right about Colin, because Ennis sure as hell needs some support right now.

We have to wait another few days for the next installment folks.

Anyone know how many chapters Amy has planned? Then again, maybe I don't want to know - might spoil the suspense.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on December 02, 2006, 11:25:36 pm
Yeah you told me, what is that all about?  :o ;)



Colin?!?!?!   :o

My goodness I never got that feeling from him at all.  What makes you say that?

I don't know. Gay men's intuition I guess.  :)

Of course Amy can take this story in any direction she wants, so my intuition could be very wrong I suppose.

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 03, 2006, 04:31:53 am
Amy has said that we haven't seen the last of Alma. I really hope that Ennis, in his awful loneliness doesn't try for the safe and straight life that he had planned before meeting Jack.

I have to hope that they are each going to work out their inner demons and find their way back to each other. What will be the trigger for this though I wonder? Will we be seeing Hinestroza again I wonder.

David I hope that you are right about Colin, because Ennis sure as hell needs some support right now.

We have to wait another few days for the next installment folks.

Anyone know how many chapters Amy has planned? Then again, maybe I don't want to know - might spoil the suspense.

Karen

Well, we still need to find out what it is that Ennis told her exactly when Alma caught them at Ennis' apartment. I don't think there is a way back for Ennis, so I don't think he will try that safe way and I don't think SOG!Alma is as Story/Film!Alma, I don't think she will want him back after this. Ennis might go and apologize and try to explain what happened more honestly.

Yeah, I am also really wondering how they will get back together and how long it will take. Months? a year? Longer? I don't think H. will be the trigger, Amy went to great lengths to tell the reader that he never goes back on his words. But then again, that would show the evilness of the man to the reader, the fact that you can never trust criminals, and especially the maffia, and that you should never make a pact with them... :o

Amy doesn't normally tell her readers how many chapters she has planned, at least that's what she told us here.  ;)

Every week I think I could not possibly be more excited about a new chapter than this and I am always wrong!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on December 03, 2006, 05:25:47 am

Every week I think I could not possibly be more excited about a new chapter than this and I am always wrong!

Oh absolutely - can barely wait for the next update. I thought following an enthralling drama serial on the TV was exciting, but my addiction to fan fiction has surpased that.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 03, 2006, 06:22:51 am
Oh absolutely - can barely wait for the next update. I thought following an enthralling drama serial on the TV was exciting, but my addiction to fan fiction has surpased that.

Karen

Oh yes Karen, I know exactly what you mean. My addiction sometimes really scares me, lol I used to love watching drama and thriller series on tv or going to the movies but I hardly do that anymore cause all I want to do is spend  my time reading fan fiction and talking about it  ::)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on December 04, 2006, 07:22:35 am
Well hallo all you Shades fans.

It's Monday, and so begins the build up to the next update.

It's funny, but that's how I map the days for this fic. Thursday = update day. Then Friday to Sunday  = review and comedown. Then Monday onwards, looking forwards to the next upate.

I hope that there is a glimmer of happiness for our fave chaps in this one. I so hope that Jack will be able to find some self esteem. I can't imagine what kind of employment that he could go for now, or even be fit for at the moment. I know earning a living is dull, but it is a factor in his rehabilitation. It would be easy for him to be drawn back into crime. On the more emotional front, he needs to begin the path to healing by forgiving himself for Ortiz's death, and for the choices that he has made in the past.

As for Ennis, well he's going to feel lost without Jack. He needs to fully accept who he is, without Jack to lead the way. He needs to deal with Alma and re-evaluate his position with the FBI.

Lots of deep thinking to be done.

Oh, and I'm looking forward to Colin reaction to all that has happened.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 04, 2006, 07:30:24 am
Oh, and I'm looking forward to Colin reaction to all that has happened.

Me too, I think that Colin will prove to be a good friend, but he will urge Ennis to tell him the truth...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 04, 2006, 07:34:38 am
June and I were talking about this the other day, and we both wondered if the next chapter would be the last one, because things seem to be wrapping up now. 

Which brings me to a question.  Amy, I know someone asked you a while ago about how many chapters there would be and you didn't want to say.  Why is that?  It interests me why authors don't want to reveal this.  Mainly, I think, because when I go into a bookstore or whatever and buy a book I know exactly how long it's going to be.  I know when I'm at the beginning, I know when I'm in the middle, and I know when I'm coming to the end.

I read if I Asked quite some time after it had finished, but I do remember seeing that readers had been surprised when it ended, and some thought it had ended suddenly.  But when I read it I knew exactly how long it was going to be and it felt quite complete when I did get to the end.  As an aside I must be the only person who had completely forgotten about the mirror sex scene.   ::)

I know that for a lot of authors they don't really know how long their fic is going to be, which is fair enough, but if you have an idea why not say?

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 04, 2006, 07:44:51 am
Me too, I think that Colin will prove to be a good friend, but he will urge Ennis to tell him the truth...


I think it would be good if Ennis told Colin the truth.  He needs to take the lead in his own life, like others have said, and coming out to Colin (properly, I mean, it's obvious Colin knows something of what's happened) is one thing he could do.  Let's face it he doesn't have anyone else to talk to.  I also think he needs to tie things up properly with Alma.  To take responsibility in other words.

What the hell Jack is going to do I have no idea.  His issues won't be fixed in a day or a month or six months so i'm wondering how long it will be before Ennis and Jack get back together.  For Ennis to sort himself out and get to a place where he can live as the man he is, and for him to have got something sorted career-wise, I would say two to three months.  For Jack...well, he needs professional help because his issues are so deeply ingrained I don't think he could ever get himself to a position where he believes himself worthy.  Not by himself.  Whether this happens before or after he gets back with Ennis I don't know, but it will take a long time for him to feel anything like a worthwhile person.  I'm intrigued as to how Amy will get Jack to a position where he can at least accept Ennis back into his life, if nothing else.

:)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 04, 2006, 08:26:50 am
I think it would be good if Ennis told Colin the truth.  He needs to take the lead in his own life, like others have said, and coming out to Colin (properly, I mean, it's obvious Colin knows something of what's happened) is one thing he could do.  Let's face it he doesn't have anyone else to talk to.  I also think he needs to tie things up properly with Alma.  To take responsibility in other words.

What the hell Jack is going to do I have no idea.  His issues won't be fixed in a day or a month or six months so i'm wondering how long it will be before Ennis and Jack get back together.  For Ennis to sort himself out and get to a place where he can live as the man he is, and for him to have got something sorted career-wise, I would say two to three months.  For Jack...well, he needs professional help because his issues are so deeply ingrained I don't think he could ever get himself to a position where he believes himself worthy.  Not by himself.  Whether this happens before or after he gets back with Ennis I don't know, but it will take a long time for him to feel anything like a worthwhile person.  I'm intrigued as to how Amy will get Jack to a position where he can at least accept Ennis back into his life, if nothing else.

:)

Oh yes, Ennis will definitely have to come out to Colin, that's his first step and I do hope Colin will be the friend Ennis thought he had and that he will support him in the process of finding what he needs and wants in life.

I have been worrying too about how Jack is going to deal with this stage of his life and how he is going to do it on his own, because he has practically nobody in his life to talk to now. Before, I was able to speculate what was going to happen, but now, at this point, I have absolutely no idea what's going to happen, which is frustrating and exciting at the same time.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 04, 2006, 08:58:01 am
I just keep remembering the odd snippets of Jack's past life, the aimless driving around, the looking into other peoples' lives from outside, his conflicting emotions towards the man who manipulated him, his lack of hope with regards to himself and Ennis.

I think that Jack needs Ennis's support, and Ennis sorting out his own issues will put him in a better position to be able to do this.  Jack has psychological problems and whereas using Ennis as a crutch won't help, having Ennis as a support mechanism will.

I've said before that Ennis can tell Jack a million times that he is a good person, but it won't make Jack believe it.  But I think that having Ennis in his life - a sorted Ennis - to be there for him when he needs it, will provide a strong foundation for Jack to start believing in himself.

Jack believes he failed by not dying. They have a long way to go whatever happens.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 04, 2006, 09:38:52 am
Jack believes he failed by not dying. They have a long way to go whatever happens.

Very well-put, it could take years to get over so many traumatic experiences in a row. Oh I'm worried about Jack....  :'(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 04, 2006, 10:09:26 am
Helen, usually I don't like to say how many chapters because I honestly don't know.  I'm not a big outliner when I write and if you'd asked me at the beginning how long this fic was going to be I would have said eight chapters.  LOL.  But one thing I do know for certain, this next chapter is not the last one.  There will be at least a few more.  I don't think the boys can get everything resolved in one chapter.  Does that help?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 04, 2006, 10:27:31 am
Helen, usually I don't like to say how many chapters because I honestly don't know.  I'm not a big outliner when I write and if you'd asked me at the beginning how long this fic was going to be I would have said eight chapters.  LOL.  But one thing I do know for certain, this next chapter is not the last one.  There will be at least a few more.  I don't think the boys can get everything resolved in one chapter.  Does that help?

LOL - that's fair enough :) I'd got the impression somewhere along the line that you knew... :)   ( Totally OT: I found an old outline of Modern Way and it was six chapters altogether....)  ;D ;D ;D


A few more.....music to my ears.  :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on December 04, 2006, 11:28:49 am
Quote
I think that Jack needs Ennis's support, and Ennis sorting out his own issues will put him in a better position to be able to do this.  Jack has psychological problems and whereas using Ennis as a crutch won't help, having Ennis as a support mechanism will.

I completley agree, I think that is very well said. I was in favor of Jack and Ennis separating at the end of the last chapter (I know, am I insane??) but it was because of what you've said here that it made sense to me. Jack needs to learn to deal with his issues for himself and become a better man for himself not for Ennis and not by using Ennis as a crutch because that would lead toward the same sort of unhealthy attachment to Ennis that he had to Heinstroza. I think that even if Jack hasn't sorted all his issues out yet but that he can learn to go to Ennis as a support system and not use him as a crutch, then they should be able to get through this together. And I think Jack knows that. I think he realizes he puts all of his self-worth in other peoples feelings for him and that he needs to move past that.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 04, 2006, 12:24:28 pm

I've said before that Ennis can tell Jack a million times that he is a good person, but it won't make Jack believe it.  But I think that having Ennis in his life - a sorted Ennis - to be there for him when he needs it, will provide a strong foundation for Jack to start believing in himself.

Jack believes he failed by not dying. They have a long way to go whatever happens.

Such great points you've made here H and so terribly sad  :(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: notBastet on December 05, 2006, 07:06:49 pm
I just keep remembering the odd snippets of Jack's past life, the aimless driving around, the looking into other peoples' lives from outside, his conflicting emotions towards the man who manipulated him, his lack of hope with regards to himself and Ennis.

I think that Jack needs Ennis's support, and Ennis sorting out his own issues will put him in a better position to be able to do this.  Jack has psychological problems and whereas using Ennis as a crutch won't help, having Ennis as a support mechanism will.

I've said before that Ennis can tell Jack a million times that he is a good person, but it won't make Jack believe it.  But I think that having Ennis in his life - a sorted Ennis - to be there for him when he needs it, will provide a strong foundation for Jack to start believing in himself.

Jack believes he failed by not dying. They have a long way to go whatever happens.

agreeing with you on all points.
 :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 06, 2006, 09:02:00 am
From the musical Les Miserables....

ONE MORE DAY, ONE DAY MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on December 06, 2006, 09:21:29 am
Oh I know!!!!

A day and a half here - but still.

It's funny, I want Jack and Ennis back together, but I don't want this story to end. I hope if we do get a happy ending (pretty please) that we get at least one chapter of post unification. Just to se how they are living.

Sorry - getting a bit ahead of myself here.

I think that the next chapter is going to involve a lot of introspective soul searching by both our guys. They may not even meet at all.  :'(

Karen

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 06, 2006, 09:40:09 am
Oh I know!!!!

A day and a half here - but still.

It's funny, I want Jack and Ennis back together, but I don't want this story to end. I hope if we do get a happy ending (pretty please) that we get at least one chapter of post unification. Just to se how they are living.

Sorry - getting a bit ahead of myself here.

I think that the next chapter is going to involve a lot of introspective soul searching by both our guys. They may not even meet at all.  :'(

Karen



I think so too. I think it's going to be Ennis talking to Colin and Alma.

I've been wondering about this, what do you think Ennis told Alma when she caught them?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on December 06, 2006, 10:21:37 am
I think so too. I think it's going to be Ennis talking to Colin and Alma.

I've been wondering about this, what do you think Ennis told Alma when she caught them?

I can't even begin to imagine. I mean you catch your other half snogging someone else - there is only one explanation really.

Unless he spun her a tale about being deep, deep undercover. Would she believe that?

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 06, 2006, 10:32:44 am
I can't even begin to imagine. I mean you catch your other half snogging someone else - there is only one explanation really.

Unless he spun her a tale about being deep, deep undercover. Would she believe that?

Karen

I don't think she is like Story/Film!Alma, so I don't think she would believe that, I mean that is really deep, deep undercover isn't it?  ;) And Ennis said that he didn't tell her anything that she believed. I don't think he isn't going to dodge the difficult questions from her anymore though. If she even wants to talk to him anymore.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 06, 2006, 10:43:17 am
I can't even begin to imagine. I mean you catch your other half snogging someone else - there is only one explanation really.

Unless he spun her a tale about being deep, deep undercover. Would she believe that?

Karen

I am REALLY looking forward to the next chapter, especially to see how Jack's doing now *sigh*

I don't think she'd ever believe that, no way.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on December 06, 2006, 09:51:03 pm
Can tomorrow be RIGHT NOW please???  ::)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 06, 2006, 10:03:51 pm
Can tomorrow be RIGHT NOW please???  ::)

LOL, Mandy! It is for me!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on December 06, 2006, 11:06:45 pm
LOL that's true June  ;D

I guess what I should say is, please post Shades RIGHT NOW! Because I'll be at work when it's posted tomorrow *stomps foot angrily*  :P
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 06, 2006, 11:24:51 pm
Hey, guys!  Shades will go up at the usual time tomorrow.  I think it's the longest chapter yet.  Not all of your questions about Colin, Alma, etc. will be answered in this chapter, but it will be a good start, I promise!   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on December 07, 2006, 12:01:56 am
Yay for longest chapter yet  :D

You know we love you Amy  :-* You spoil us!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 07, 2006, 04:35:53 am
Hey, guys!  Shades will go up at the usual time tomorrow.  I think it's the longest chapter yet.  Not all of your questions about Colin, Alma, etc. will be answered in this chapter, but it will be a good start, I promise!   ;)

Thanks for letting us know, Amy   :-*

Wish it was around 5 pm already!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 07, 2006, 07:40:27 am
Hey, guys!  Shades will go up at the usual time tomorrow.  I think it's the longest chapter yet.  Not all of your questions about Colin, Alma, etc. will be answered in this chapter, but it will be a good start, I promise!   ;)

Longest chapter yet......? I think Joe Pie is back....

JOEPIE!!!!!!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on December 07, 2006, 08:03:37 am
Who is Joe Pie???  ???

It's Thursday and we're getting an extra long chapter - whoop!

Hope it's not totally angst filled though.  :-\

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 07, 2006, 09:05:51 am
Who is Joe Pie???  ???

It's Thursday and we're getting an extra long chapter - whoop!

Hope it's not totally angst filled though.  :-\

Karen

Joepie is Yeehaw in Dutch.... ;)

Oh I agree, I hope we will see the first ray of sun shining through the thick, thick clouds...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on December 07, 2006, 10:31:49 am
LOL, Joe Pie...  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 07, 2006, 10:43:59 am
LOL, Joe Pie...  :D

 :laugh:

It looks so totally stupid written like that!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 07, 2006, 12:28:46 pm
Hey guys, Chapter 16 is up at:  http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/8313.html    ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 07, 2006, 03:37:01 pm
Amy, thank you for another wonderful chapter. My heart ached for poor Ennis when he found out Jack had moved. Moved on it felt for him, but we, the readers, and hopefully Ennis too, know better. I loved Dane in this chapter, he turns out to be such a good friend. Your new character Jill is great, she is a little like Movie!Jack, full of life and quirky and fun. Hopefully Jack will draw from her energy and even friendship.

Poor Alma, but I am so glad that Ennis was clear with her and I am so proud of him that he was able to play straight with her and tell her what was going on. So Ennis actually said this is not what it looks like, I'll explain later? Phew... Poor, poor Alma... 

It was so clever how you saved some of the time they spent together for these chapters, so while they are apart your readers would be able to hold on to their love by holding on to these small snippets of their time together. When their relationship first started you jumped ahead a few days and then I wondered why you did that, but now I understand. Very clever.

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 07, 2006, 05:56:05 pm
Hey come on guys, where are you?  :o

(*Jumps up and down in front of the computer*)

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on December 07, 2006, 06:31:21 pm
Hey come on guys, where are you?  :o

(*Jumps up and down in front of the computer*)



Shhh. Calm down Melissa.  ;)

(I think Melissa wants to hear some input from everyone about Chapter 16)

I'm getting ready to read it in a few minutes.  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on December 07, 2006, 08:18:56 pm
Hey all.

Well, our boys aren't back together, but I have to say that I felt cleansed after reading that chapter. There was the beginnings of hope in it, specially from Jack's POV.

I felt for Ennis when he visited Jack's empty apartment. Could Jack not at least have left a forwarding address or number, or at least let Ennis know he was moving? That felt very final, and from reading Jack's thoughts later, I guess he thought that it was. Then again, both he and Ennis know that Ennis can trace him without too much trouble.

I love the job that Jack has. I'm hoping that it will bring him a feeling of self worth. He will make some good friends there I think. Maybe he and Ennis will cross paths at court, where Jack will be acting on the right side of the law for once.

It would have been so easy for Ennis to have denied his true feelings to himself, and to the world, and to slip back into him old lfe (minus Alma perhaps - that was beyond saving), but he has chosen truth. This will lead him back to Jack, I am sure of it.

As always, this story just leaves you hungry and aching for more!

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on December 07, 2006, 11:23:01 pm
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Then again, both he and Ennis know that Ennis can trace him without too much trouble.

I wonder if Ennis will go to Colin for help with this while he's on administrative leave and doesn't have access to the usual resources. That would be a perfect opportunity for Ennis to come clean with Colin at least about being gay and being in love with Jack which I'm sure Colin already suspects.  I think Ennis needs to make that step in order to "clean up his life".

I was so proud of both of them in this chapter. Even though they are apart they are both making really important strides and doing things that are necessary if they are going to have a healthy relationship (even if Jack does think their split is final... I mean come on Jack! don't you see what being apart from him is doing to you?????? Grr! ok, I'm calm now...).

I really loved this chapter, it felt very peaceful even if things are still uncertain and they are apart.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on December 08, 2006, 09:33:39 am
Hee hee... are you all ready for another of my wild speculations (I have to right at least once surely)?  ;D

I'm wondering of this young offender that Jill is dealing with might have been drawn into Hinestronza's web (what with the drugs connection and all). Helping Jill help him might be a way for Jack to redeem himself a little in his own eyes. Or maybe the kid has no connection to Mr H, but Jack will help him before he gets too embroiled in a life that he can't escape.

Too much of a fantastic co-incidence?

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on December 08, 2006, 10:07:31 am
I love your wild speculations  ;D

That would definitely be interesting, either way I'm really really glad Jack came to the realization he did at the end of this chapter. If this kid can help him learn that he needs to forgive himself, then I'm all for it!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 08, 2006, 10:33:29 am
This chapter very much had the feeling of an epilogue to me, the pacing is now a lot slower, the whole feel of it is different to the previous chapters.  Amy said somewhere that if she had been writing this as a "proper" book she may have stopped after the last chapter....and it does have that kind of feel to it.  Almost as if I've finished one book and have picked up another.  There was a very strong feel up till now that it was all about Jack and Ennis v. The World...whereas now it's more how they can live in the world.  This isn't necessarily a criticism, just that now things feel different to me.  I wonder if it's because all the action thus far has taken place in a short space of time, whereas now a few weeks have gone by. 

I felt really sorry for Alma, there she was waiting for Ennis to explain how he and Jack weren't what it looked like...trusting her fiancee.  And it turns out it was a lie.  Thank goodness Ennis came clean, because he really has treated Alma very shabbily.  She deserved better.  Why he thought she might want to keep his ring I don't know.  He's lucky she wasn't a bit more feisty or else he might have ended up with it in the place he might allow Jack to go one day!!!!   ;D And Dane....much as Ennis hated him he turned good for Jack, and was there when he was needed.  I can't remember the exact quote but when he reminded Jack that Ennis did what he did because he LOVES JAck, it seemed a little bit might be seeping through into Jack's consciousness.  Hurray. :)

I'm still overly interested in what Colin and Ennis are going to be saying to each other!  Next chapter, maybe......?   :)

There was one scene in particular that didn't feel real to me; the scene being Jack's epiphany when he saw the young man who could have been himself. And it struck him that if he could feel compassion for this boy, he could feel it for himself and perhaps he was good after all. 32 years of abuse don't, in my opinion, enable a person to have a sudden moment like that where they realise that everything they have been taught, everything that is ingrained in their psyche over three decades, might not be true. Up till that point Jack had been portrayed as a man with deep psychological problems. His belief that he would be better off dead, and his conviction that it was a good thing to be tortured and killed in exchange for his loved one to be spared can't suddenly be erased in the space of eight weeks. I don't think it's believable that a person with such strong and extreme convictions about themselves can, over such a short space of time, be heading off in totally the other direction.

I know that his realisation is only the beginning, and that not everything is fixed, but if he can think that after a few weeks  it won't be long before he's fully recovered from both childhood and adult trauma.  And that just doesn't sit well with me.

However - LOL - I am always in a minority of one where these things are concerned!   ;D  And whatever their feelings and realisations the sooner Ennis finds out where Jack is, or Jack realises he needs to get back to KC to be with Ennis, the better!!  :)  I also totally loved the way you began the chapter with a flashback to their time in the flat....I was thinking there would be no more of that now, and was so happy to read that.  :)

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on December 08, 2006, 11:06:44 am
Helen I think you bring up a really good point when you say this chapter feels different, feels like a new book. I thought the same thing and I remember wondering what direction Amy would take it in after the torture and Madrigal's death because all of that seemed very final. But, I love reading this new book too  ;)

You make a really good point about Jack's epiphany. Even though I was really happy he was moving in that direction, I'm inclined to agree with you, especially with the way you put it... I guess I'm just wondering how long this epiphany will actually last, if he'll wake up in the morning and still feel the same way or if this was just a particularly good night for him and tomorrow he'll be back to his old Jack thoughts of I don't deserve any of this... I don't know. You bring up really interesting points!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 08, 2006, 11:51:24 am
Helen, I need the read the last part again that you are referring to, but the way I read it is not so much a life-altering epiphany, but more a step towards change, to me it didn't feel like it's a done deal now.

Maybe it would be all right with Ortiz or God or whoever was watching, if he showed himself just that little bit of mercy, allowed himself to believe that forgiveness might be something he deserved after all.

That seems like one step forward, but him not being there yet... it's just the beginning to find a way to deal with everything, if he doesn't allow himself forgiveness, he can never start to heal?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 08, 2006, 11:52:02 am
H ~ You always manage to really get me thinking on various fanfic updates and I love that, love that you can point out stuff to me that for whatever reason just didn't sink in or that I just overlooked  :)  :)

I totally agree with the Jack and Ennis v. The World and that this chapter has them doing stuff *in* the world, but I really enjoyed reading about that. Especially Jack moving and getting a job and Dane helping him  :) I think Dane's a really good guy and I hope life works out good for him too and I'm very grateful to him for what he said to Jack. Plus I feel so sorry for him  :(

You really got me thinking on the epiphany bit ~ I tend to read with my heart and was just overjoyed at Jack feeling this way but I must say you've really got a good point with all of this. He has been so totally fucked up for nearly his whole life and that is not fixed in a matter of weeks, not that Amy implied that all was fixed but even realising this stuff about himself in such a short period of time might not seem believeble, as you pointed out.

I agree too about the beginning of the chapter and said so to Amy in my comment  :) I absolutey loved their sweet joking around and their sweet and hot loving  :) It was beautiful
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 08, 2006, 12:04:09 pm
.. I guess I'm just wondering how long this epiphany will actually last, if he'll wake up in the morning and still feel the same way or if this was just a particularly good night for him and tomorrow he'll be back to his old Jack thoughts of I don't deserve any of this... I don't know. You bring up really interesting points!

That's interesting.  I've been coming at it from the view that he's had his epiphany and he'll be going forwards from now on.  But what you suggest is entirely plausible, although the way this scene was written doesn't suggest he'll be doing anything but moving in a more positive direction with his feelings about himself.  Whether he does it quickly or slowly, the direction is recovery and Ennis.  That's the impression I get, anyway.  And that might be tied in with what I was saying about the story feeling different now.  I have this sense of winding-up, so there doesn't seem much space left for Jack to do anything other than get better to a degree where he at the very least accepts Ennis on some level.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 08, 2006, 12:06:49 pm
I agree too about the beginning of the chapter and said so to Amy in my comment  :) I absolutey loved their sweet joking around and their sweet and hot loving  :) It was beautiful

I thought it was wonderful that we got to go back to the flat.  I missed it so much when they left.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 08, 2006, 12:09:07 pm
Helen, I don't think Jack had an ephiphany at the end.  At least that's not how I saw it in my mind.  I saw it as a tiny step forward.  A small recognition that he had been very young when he made his choices and that maybe he deserved to *start* forgiving himself.  A small process, a small step.  He hasn't forgiven himself and I don't know that he ever will, completely.  But just a tiny move forward, recognizing himself in that kid.  Realizing that maybe not everything he did was entirely his fault. 
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 08, 2006, 12:12:26 pm
Also, I don't know that Jack ever believed he'd be better off dead or that being tortured and killed was what he wanted, just that in his world it seemed the best way to save Ennis and that was his focus at the time he made the deal with Hinestroza.  Is Jack damaged?  Yes, undoubtedly.  But I've worked with a lot of damaged men and many of them come back from that.  People are remarkably resilient, with love and some pride and a purpose.  I don't think Jack's got to spend the next decade on a shrink's couch in order to live a "normal" life.  But then again, I'm not big on psychiatrists, so that's my own bias.  LOL.  Will he ever completely outrun his demons?  I doubt it.  Can he learn to live with them?  Yes.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 08, 2006, 12:21:55 pm

I know that his realisation is only the beginning, and that not everything is fixed, but if he can think that after a few weeks  it won't be long before he's fully recovered from both childhood and adult trauma.  And that just doesn't sit well with me.



I don't think that's true.  People can realize they need to forgive themselves, can begin that process, and still carry all their trauma with them still and it can take years for it to go away, if ever.  The realization that you should forgive yourself does not mean the forgiveness has happened, or even that it ever will, fully.  But it's a step.  It's one of the first steps in AA (my dad's been in for 20 years).  I guess I don't understand what you would rather have for Jack.  I mean, to move forward, he has to have some realizations about himself and his past, doesn't he?  Otherwise there's no growing for him.  And I can't very well skip forward five years or people would kill me!   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 08, 2006, 12:33:58 pm
LOL - I agree, I don't think he needs to spend the next decade with a psychiatrist and, depending on the type he went to, he may end up worse off.  I agree people are very resilient, but I do generally think that is more a case of people getting on with life as best they can with the beliefs they have about themselves still intact, rather than them overcoming such beliefs. 

When I read that last passage it came across to me as if Jack was beginning to get over what had happened - you mention that he recognised that he'd been young when he made the choices he did.  Maybe I feel that he seemed to be having too many thoughts about it, perhaps was intellectualising his feelings to a greater degree than I believe likely.  And that's not to say I don't believe him to be an intelligent man.

I too believe he is capable of learning to live with his demons...he just seems to be getting on with greater alacrity than I would expect.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 08, 2006, 12:38:02 pm
And I can't very well skip forward five years or people would kill me!   ;)

 :-X


Kidding!   ;D


Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 08, 2006, 12:41:48 pm
LOL - I agree, I don't think he needs to spend the next decade with a psychiatrist and, depending on the type he went to, he may end up worse off.  I agree people are very resilient, but I do generally think that is more a case of people getting on with life as best they can with the beliefs they have about themselves still intact, rather than them overcoming such beliefs. 

When I read that last passage it came across to me as if Jack was beginning to get over what had happened - you mention that he recognised that he'd been young when he made the choices he did.  Maybe I feel that he seemed to be having too many thoughts about it, perhaps was intellectualising his feelings to a greater degree than I believe likely.  And that's not to say I don't believe him to be an intelligent man.

I too believe he is capable of learning to live with his demons...he just seems to be getting on with greater alacrity than I would expect.

I see what you're saying, but it was only a small moment in his life.  Just a five second window where he allowed himself to really *see* how young he'd been when he made some of his choices.  He's not going to magically heal and be fine, believe me.  And Ennis is going to have to accept that, the same way Jack is going to have to accept that Ennis will never be fully comfortable with being "out."  Their baggage is part of who they are and a lot of it isn't going anywhere.  But they have to have some growth, some tiny moments of forgiveness or they can't make it work, separately or together.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 08, 2006, 12:50:45 pm
The realization that you should forgive yourself does not mean the forgiveness has happened, or even that it ever will, fully.  But it's a step.

It seemed that there was more to what you wrote than this.  Like I said in my first comment it did feel epiphanous, and that he'd had major realisations and that he was about to step forward into the world with the beginnings of change around him.

Although I agree with what you are saying it doesn't tally with what I was reading in the story itself - I misunderstood what was actually happening.

 :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 08, 2006, 12:54:12 pm
No, you didn't necessarily misunderstand.  I *do* think he's moving forward, but at the same time that doesn't mean he won't still feel the doubt and guilt and trauma and pain.  I guess I just don't see it as an all or nothing deal--as either you're traumatized or you're not.  Can't it be both?  Can't he still be suffering and have the guilt and worthiness issues at the same time he's working on them?  I mean, trying to get better and do better doesn't mean you *are* better, it just means you're taking the steps. 
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 08, 2006, 01:08:44 pm
No, you didn't necessarily misunderstand.  I *do* think he's moving forward, but at the same time that doesn't mean he won't still feel the doubt and guilt and trauma and pain.  I guess I just don't see it as an all or nothing deal--as either you're traumatized or you're not.  Can't it be both?  Can't he still be suffering and have the guilt and worthiness issues at the same time he's working on them?  I mean, trying to get better and do better doesn't mean you *are* better, it just means you're taking the steps. 

Yes of course it can be like that - and is, and must be because people don't just suddenly wake up of a morning and are recovered.  It's a long process.

:)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 08, 2006, 01:18:40 pm
I guess I should have been more clear that Jack hadn't forgiven himself, but was only having the thoughts that maybe it would be all right to start the process of forgiving himself.  And, like you said, it's a long process and honestly, I don't know if Jack will ever get all the way there.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on December 08, 2006, 07:25:44 pm
I never had the impression Jack twist was forgiving himself, i had the impression he had an AHA!! moment where he suddenly saw a part of himself very clearly, due to the acts and behaviour of another person...in this case the teenaged druggie. This is not so different from the AHA!! moments many people had after they saw brokeback.

There are ways and ways for a good author to keep a plot and story united during a time-lapse, let's not forget that.

What grabbed my gut was the reality of the goodbye, the reality of how both men behaved. This is something RARELY achieved in fanfic, where far too many simply post these silly [ to me anyway, as a guy] and completely unrealistic [ from the male POV] descriptions of a supposedly good lay  lol, and the characters throbbing  manly members are orgasming every  5 minutes while the men spout ridiculous things only a girl would want to hear. Seriously, most of the sex in fanfic has characters  far more verbal then nearly any male i ever met lol lol lol, in positions NO guy would EVER think to say a word in!

 These two breathe. They are so realistic it's awesome. When they have sex, it's real, when they talk it's real. They are characters you can and do believe, believe in and care about.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 09, 2006, 05:51:44 am

They are characters you can and do believe, believe in and care about.

Yeah, what he says!  ;D  I totally agree!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on December 09, 2006, 06:39:57 pm
What grabbed my gut was the reality of the goodbye, the reality of how both men behaved. This is something RARELY achieved in fanfic, where far too many simply post these silly [ to me anyway, as a guy] and completely unrealistic [ from the male POV] descriptions of a supposedly good lay  lol, and the characters throbbing  manly members are orgasming every  5 minutes while the men spout ridiculous things only a girl would want to hear. Seriously, most of the sex in fanfic has characters  far more verbal then nearly any male i ever met lol lol lol, in positions NO guy would EVER think to say a word in!

These two breathe. They are so realistic it's awesome. When they have sex, it's real, when they talk it's real. They are characters you can and do believe, believe in and care about.

I was glad to read this, BBJack. As a fanfic reader, I've become more aware of the "femaleness" of these stories. (Note: There is a discussion thread about this subject on ennisjack.com.) It's true the action is more verbal with female slashwriters, but if it were really true-to-life, non-verbal action as you describe, then it wouldn't be as much fun to read !
:laugh:
Having the male characters trying to talk about their feelings in between athletic bouts of sex can get tiresome for me, too. And I'm a girl! LOL

271horses (a male writer who wrote Roots/Pairing: Earl/Rich) shows the love between Earl and Rich without a lot of talking and it's still romantic.

Amy, I think "Shades of Grey" has a good balance between the action and the talking. To be sure, the storyline is 'grim' but I think the love these two men have for each other keeps the story from getting depressing without over-doing it. Thanks!

Leslie
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on December 10, 2006, 01:31:22 am
Leslie, it's not so much the fact that the men speak during sex, but what they SAY. In SoG I think it's absolutely realistic. There is no need for 'continual humps'. SoG is as good as it is because the characters are developed brilliantly by the author and don't just hump each other like  porn legends. There really is a brilliant sense of reality in SoG, every guy i know who has been turned onto it has been hooked instantly....including one who never thought he could ever read anything set off of brokeback.

I'm glad amy isn't all about bottoming Ennis and throbbing manly members lol, the sexAND THE MEN here ARE so real,  it's amazing.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on December 10, 2006, 04:22:11 am
Leslie, it's not so much the fact that the men speak during sex, but what they SAY. In SoG I think it's absolutely realistic. There is no need for 'continual humps'. SoG is as good as it is because the characters are developed brilliantly by the author and don't just hump each other like  porn legends. There really is a brilliant sense of reality in SoG, every guy i know who has been turned onto it has been hooked instantly....including one who never thought he could ever read anything set off of brokeback.

I'm glad amy isn't all about bottoming Ennis and throbbing manly members lol, the sexAND THE MEN here ARE so real,  it's amazing.

It is realistic, isn't it? I have mentioned this to a friend of mine who is also reading this story. Amy is extremely talented. It is just unbelievable how much detail she puts into this story.

Amy seems to nail it every time!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 10, 2006, 10:24:10 am
Thanks, Jack and David.  It is seriously about the best compliment I can get that men reading this story think it's a realistic portrayal of men.  You two just made my whole month!   :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 10, 2006, 04:46:41 pm
Thanks, Jack and David.  It is seriously about the best compliment I can get that men reading this story think it's a realistic portrayal of men.  You two just made my whole month!   :-*

And compliments from us girls don't matter?

 :'(

 ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on December 10, 2006, 05:56:59 pm
lmao me,vans

yeah they matter!!

thing is you don't have penises and all that macho stuf we tend to treasure so much, so when a woman does a better job then a man does while  she is writing about 2 men....and it's so real you can taste it??? And the MEN fell flat on their faces trying to do the same thing???

that is something any guy would notice!!!!

sort of like AP writing about J&E up on Brokeback....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 10, 2006, 06:25:37 pm
lmao me,vans

yeah they matter!!

thing is you don't have penises and all that macho stuf we tend to treasure so much, so when a woman does a better job then a man does while  she is writing about 2 men....and it's so real you can taste it??? And the MEN fell flat on their faces trying to do the same thing???

that is something any guy would notice!!!!

sort of like AP writing about J&E up on Brokeback...

 ;D Yeah, we notice it too, it's a mystery how women seem to be able to write about it much better than men!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 10, 2006, 06:31:48 pm
And compliments from us girls don't matter?

 :'(

 ;)
NO!  Compliments from you girls mean the world to me!  I just meant that it's nice to know that the men who are reading *believe* this Jack and Ennis because they approach the story from a completely different perspective and it's important to me that these men I'm writing about are really men.  Does that make sense?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 10, 2006, 06:33:05 pm
;D Yeah, we notice it too, it's a mystery how women seem to be able to write about it much better than men!  ;D

I always think that about Larry McMurtry's books, he writes women better than any woman I've ever read.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on December 10, 2006, 07:45:52 pm
yeah he does! the whole question is interesting, re men writing women and women writing men.

But i have to reiterate, when it comes to fanfic some pretty good stories are marred, and  not ENHANCED by throbbing manly members, ejaculating copious amounts of sperm  every 5 minutes while the men in question squeal Oh I love you love you love you! YOU GIRLS try to yell out c oherent sentences at the point of orgasm, most guys manage  something sounding like gdooosh
lol
lol
lol

Except for one guy i knew. raging italian heterosexual godlet with muscles and extreme narcissistic self love, should have been a serial killer. He used to yell, Oh ***** you look so GOOD!!!  Called out his own name. I'm serious. Did it with distressing regularity. Used to do weight curls and kiss his biceps, too, and had mirrors everywhere so--as he put it--I can see the best looking human within 20 miles. ie, him.

lol

all his G/F's left
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on December 10, 2006, 07:53:01 pm
"Gdooosh" is exactly what Ennis said in the FNIT scene.

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on December 10, 2006, 08:05:23 pm
he did????

I will have to listen again. usually i have the volume up high so I can hear jack say oh please fuck me ennis
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 10, 2006, 09:02:06 pm
YOU GIRLS try to yell out c oherent sentences at the point of orgasm,

Hmmmm, well, I beg to differ but that's all I'm saying!!  ;D

 :-X

 8)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on December 10, 2006, 09:07:01 pm
OT - okay, okay, okay I know. Christian Bale has already been cast as Dane.
He's too old for the part, but Clive Owen does have lovely green eyes!

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Clive_Owen003-1.jpg)

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on December 10, 2006, 09:09:14 pm
And he's on the cover of USA Weekend. I won't put any more Clive on the Shades of Grey site, but if anyone wants more of him, his website is www.cliveowenspeaks.com. His chest has its own page.

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/CLIVEoncover.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on December 10, 2006, 09:10:44 pm
he's not THAT goodlookin...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 10, 2006, 09:13:58 pm
I sometimes really like Clive Owen ~ loved him in King Arthur and there was this BBC series he played in that was fantastic!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on December 10, 2006, 09:45:19 pm
This is how I have been imagining Dane to look....

(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l250/della17_blue/1940695830.jpg)

Or something along those lines. But Amy showed us what Dane really looks like, so I should try to picture her version as  I read the story.  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 10, 2006, 10:16:43 pm
Nope, that's what's great about writing vs. the movies, you can picture Dane exactly how you please!  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on December 10, 2006, 10:29:26 pm
who is that, David?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on December 10, 2006, 10:41:58 pm
he's not THAT goodlookin...

WHOT!? You don' think I'm sexy, mate?

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/clive_owen.jpg)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on December 10, 2006, 10:44:56 pm
who is that, David?


I have NO idea! I saw him on Photobucket and he reminded me of Dane. The person who posted his picture didn't say who he was.

He sure is cute though!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on December 10, 2006, 11:10:47 pm
I have NO idea! I saw him on Photobucket and he reminded me of Dane. The person who posted his picture didn't say who he was.

He sure is cute though!  :D

It's a small pic, but I'm pretty sure that's Orlando Bloom  :)

I find Clive Owen sexy, in a really rough/rugged manly way which is not at all what I usually go for but for some reason it works for Clive. He was ridiculously sexy in Closer, but I think it had a lot to do with the character and his dialogue because I thought that entire movie was sexy. I kind of like him for Dane, but he's a little older than I picture him... Christian Bale works really well for me ever since Amy posted that pic because I hadn't formed an image of him in my mind yet.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 10, 2006, 11:25:57 pm
Yeah, that's definitely Orlando Bloom, David.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 11, 2006, 07:11:54 am
NO!  Compliments from you girls mean the world to me!  I just meant that it's nice to know that the men who are reading *believe* this Jack and Ennis because they approach the story from a completely different perspective and it's important to me that these men I'm writing about are really men.  Does that make sense?

Of course it makes sense, I was just kidding,  ;) I know that you value our opinion!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 11, 2006, 07:13:50 am
he's not THAT goodlookin...

I beg to differ....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on December 11, 2006, 10:57:57 am
I know Clive is too old to be Dane, but I thought of Dane because of Clive's dreamy green eyes. Clive is okay if you like big, muscular, rugged men with hairy chests and green eyes. And he was sexy in "Closer" The scene between him & Jude Law *** spoiler *** have cyber sex was beyond words.
leslie
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on December 11, 2006, 11:22:19 am
You know, I honestly never realized that Clive Owen has green eyes... I think his sexiness just went up a notch  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on December 11, 2006, 12:46:05 pm
Hello all

Well it's Monday and in my world that's "Build up to next chapter of SOG" day.

So, any speculation as to what to expect next?

Come, speculate with me my friends  ;D

I suspect that Ennis and Jack will still be apart, still putting their respective lives in order (with at least one flash back of them together - please, pretty pretty please).

I don't know if I can see Jack in this story actively seeking Ennis out just yet, especially as Jack has such issues of self worth. I think that they will either cross paths in the course of their work within the judicial system, or something will happen to put one of them in risk and the other will need to take action.

Or maybe none of the above - ha ha ha  :laugh:

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 11, 2006, 12:57:31 pm
Oh it will definitely be time for Ennis and Colin to have a good heart-to-heart, so that should be interesting, right?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on December 11, 2006, 01:23:17 pm
Quote
cross paths in the course of their work within the judicial system

oooh, that's interesting and something I hadn't thought of... what if Jill turns out to be working on the case of a criminal that Ennis helped get arrested or something like that, hmmm...

I definitely think there will be an Ennis/Colin heart to heart, and that's originally how I thought Ennis and Jack would get back together, I don't think Jack will seek Ennis out either but I wonder if Ennis will eventually go to Colin for help tracking Jack down and come clean about his relationship with Jack in the process.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 11, 2006, 01:30:14 pm

Or maybe none of the above - ha ha ha  :laugh:

Karen

LOL!  ;D

It all sounds pretty good to me, Karen!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: karen1129 on December 11, 2006, 05:40:42 pm
I sooooo love this story, and am also wondering how they are going to get back together.  Hope it's soon.... but I don't want the story to end.  So, does Jack have Ennis' cell number?  Ennis has no idea where Jack is.... sigh !
Dayum, them being apart is breaking my heart.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 11, 2006, 05:43:15 pm
I sooooo love this story, and am also wondering how they are going to get back together.  Hope it's soon.... but I don't want the story to end.  So, does Jack have Ennis' cell number?  Ennis has no idea where Jack is.... sigh !
Dayum, them being apart is breaking my heart.

Karen


Hi Karen, welcome to the SOG-thread! :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on December 11, 2006, 06:35:42 pm
welcome Karen!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 11, 2006, 06:41:07 pm
And another hi from me too, Karen  :) We have two Karens on here now!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 11, 2006, 06:44:37 pm
Hi, Karen #2!   :)  There will definitely be an Ennis/Colin scene in the next chapter.  But that's as much as I'm saying... ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on December 11, 2006, 06:45:38 pm

I find Clive Owen sexy, in a really rough/rugged manly way which is not at all what I usually go for but for some reason it works for Clive.

Before I ask my question, are there any knives, forks, chain saws, band saws, letter openers or shards of glass laying around in here that someone could use to inflict bodily injury to me?

Okay.

Who is this Clive Owen person? I assume he's an actor, but I have NEVER heard of him before!

Who is he?

<David dodges the numerous knives being thrown at him as he runs out the door>
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on December 11, 2006, 06:50:31 pm
LOL David!! don't worry, I didn't know who he was for the longest time either...

He's in Closer, King Arthur, I'll Sleep When I'm Dead, Derailed, The Inside Man, just to name a few... He's a british actor.

If anyone is interested, check out his film Bent... he plays a gay man who is sent to a prison camp during the holcaust. It's sad, but very worth it. It's based on a stage play though, and you can definitely tell that in the film.

Ok, back to Shades... sorry Amy!  ::)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on December 11, 2006, 09:21:36 pm
..so glad there is another guy in here who didnt have a clue as to who CO was....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on December 11, 2006, 11:20:04 pm
......... but you checked out Clive & his chest as  www.cliveowenspeaks.com didn't you??
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on December 11, 2006, 11:30:01 pm
I just looked.

eh
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on December 11, 2006, 11:38:11 pm
well at least you looked...  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 11, 2006, 11:39:35 pm
Yeah, personally, I'm not a big Clive fan, either.  He just doesn't ring my bell....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on December 12, 2006, 05:32:34 am
I sooooo love this story, and am also wondering how they are going to get back together.  Hope it's soon.... but I don't want the story to end.  So, does Jack have Ennis' cell number?  Ennis has no idea where Jack is.... sigh !
Dayum, them being apart is breaking my heart.

Karen


Another Karen - hello *waves*

This is a fab story isn't it? I know exactly what you mean. I want Ennis and Jack back together, but I really, really do not want this story to end. It has really grabbed me. I'm sure Amy can drag it to another 40 chapters or so  ;)

As for Clive Owen - he's a good actor, and I can see that he's not unattractive, but he just doesn't float my boat if you know what I mean.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: notBastet on December 12, 2006, 07:14:36 pm


I really loved this chapter, it felt very peaceful even if things are still uncertain and they are apart.

I agree.
 :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on December 13, 2006, 11:59:20 pm
I'm looking forward to morning so I can read the next chapter.

I don't think I'll probably sleep tonight.  :(

It's gonna be a loooooong looooooooong night.  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 14, 2006, 07:36:45 am
I'm looking forward to morning so I can read the next chapter.

I don't think I'll probably sleep tonight.  :(

It's gonna be a loooooong looooooooong night.  :D

I's gonna be a long, long day for us Europeans! ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on December 14, 2006, 08:31:08 am
It's Thursday!!!!!!!!  ;D

Roll on 4:30pm!!!!!

I've been concerned about how the boys are getting on.  ???

Karen

Do you guys think that I should give up on my donkey getaway fantasy?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 14, 2006, 08:38:26 am

Do you guys think that I should give up on my donkey getaway fantasy?


NO!!!!   Definitely not....especially since it's so near Christmas......

 :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 14, 2006, 08:40:21 am

Do you guys think that I should give up on my donkey getaway fantasy?


 :laugh: Never give up on that fantasy, it's far too hilarious to give up on!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on December 14, 2006, 10:34:39 am
LOL this is the first I've heard of the donkey getaway!  :o

Man, off to work... I'll be sulking in the corner all day until I can come home and read the update  :-\
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 14, 2006, 10:36:07 am

I've been concerned about how the boys are getting on.  ???

Karen

Do you guys think that I should give up on my donkey getaway fantasy?


Me too, Karen!

Heh ~ your donkey fantasy is just so cute!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 14, 2006, 10:51:31 am
Let's not forget that in the last chapter Jack said he had sold his motorbike......

....so their actual getaway options have now been reduced solely to the donkey!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 14, 2006, 10:56:46 am
http://www.neddi.org/rescueddonkeys.jpg

Which one would suit them best do you think?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on December 14, 2006, 11:35:22 am
LOL this is the first I've heard of the donkey getaway!  :o

Man, off to work... I'll be sulking in the corner all day until I can come home and read the update  :-\

Hee hee

In an earlier stage of the story, whilst Jack and Ennis were still in the FBI safe house, one_of_one mentioned that it would be really sexy if they made their getaway on the back of Jack’s motorbike.

And I responded by saying that those two could make their getaway on the back of a donkey and it would still be sexy.

I like the brown one, second from the left.

Karen

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 14, 2006, 11:40:34 am
http://www.neddi.org/rescueddonkeys.jpg

Which one would suit them best do you think?

They're all cute!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 14, 2006, 12:27:19 pm
Hey, guys...17 is up at http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/8636.html   Thanks! ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: notBastet on December 14, 2006, 12:53:07 pm
spoiler



I am reading the update right now, but I sometimes feel this way about Jack and Ennis myself:

…Ennis who never left Jack’s thoughts, only circling above when Jack was busy, landing with a life-consuming thud the moment Jack let down his guard.

in the sense that even if I'm not thinking about them directly, they're somehow still there...
*shrugs*



Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on December 14, 2006, 01:02:42 pm
**slight spoilers**



A very, very  good chapter, this.


No easy solutions, one step at the time.

Absolutely and totally loved the beautiful and simple quilt analogy. I think I'll adopt that for my own life.  :)

Also; - that goes without saying; - adored the way the two has such a connection across the distance that they can *feel* each other close and experience the same imagined embrace, - drawing strength, happiness, courage, peace of mind and self-acceptance from the other's envisioned presence... the two of them together representing something much more stronger and more solid, more viable, than simply adding up their separate strengths and getting a sum total.

Also loved the descriptive passages and the imagery throughout this. Just reading the chapter gave *me* some much needed peace of mind and sense of impending satisfactory closing!  


I somehow get the strong feeling this has to be the second to lastchapter...... Are you planning on giving us the grand finale as a gift just in time for Christmas?  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 14, 2006, 01:08:10 pm

I somehow get the strong feeling this has to be the second to last chapter......

I got that feeling too....but then I got the same feeling two chapters ago....!   ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 14, 2006, 01:34:46 pm
Well....a happy SoG ending would make a nice holiday present.... ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 14, 2006, 02:10:47 pm
Well....a happy SoG ending would make a nice holiday present.... ;)

 :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 14, 2006, 03:03:02 pm
Well....a happy SoG ending would make a nice holiday present.... ;)

Your faithful readers do deserve one, right?  ;)

Excellent chapter, Amy. I absolutely adore Jill, I have a feeling you have based her on somebody you know, she is so vivid and has such great energy. Am I right? Jack trusts her enough to say Ennis' name to her. That made me so happy. And the pining for each other and your own version of the dozy embrace...  :'(

I am sad for Ennis that his friendship with Colin is over, but it was inevitable really when I read this chapter. I was hoping there would be a way in which Colin would understand, but Ennis did risk Colin's career in every way possible, so I guess that means the end of a friendship.

That last paragraph felt so much like the end, I was actually holding my breath... I would guess two more chapters?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 14, 2006, 03:16:32 pm
So uhm... Amy, who would you like to cast as Jack and Ennis if Heath and Jake are not available for the movie version of Shades of Grey? Now don't tell us you haven't already sealed a deal with a major film studio in Hollywood...  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on December 14, 2006, 03:56:19 pm
Another brilliant chapter, Amy!

I have a feeling the story will be ending soon.  :'(

Perhaps I'm being a little selfish here, but I don't want to see it end! Thursday has become my favorite day of the week!

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 14, 2006, 03:59:36 pm
Okay, guys, I'm going to go ahead and tell you the story will be ending next week.  I didn't give people a heads up when IIA ended and some people were floored.  In retrospect, I think I ended that story too soon, but I didn't feel like I had much choice since I could only exlpore Jack's pov.  I know some of you are going to be upset that you won't get to see more of what becomes of SoG Jack and Ennis once they find each other again, but to me, that feels like a new story.  I'm not making any promises at this point, but if I can think of a decent plot I may write a sequel to SoG....we'll see....   :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on December 14, 2006, 04:10:52 pm
Well, we sure did enjoy it Amy! Thanks for writing it!  :D

I'll be looking forward to next Thursday, albeit with a little sadness in my heart.

I really will miss SoG!!

It's a brilliant story.  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 14, 2006, 04:16:47 pm
Okay, guys, I'm going to go ahead and tell you the story will be ending next week.  I didn't give people a heads up when IIA ended and some people were floored.  In retrospect, I think I ended that story too soon, but I didn't feel like I had much choice since I could only exlpore Jack's pov.  I know some of you are going to be upset that you won't get to see more of what becomes of SoG Jack and Ennis once they find each other again, but to me, that feels like a new story.  I'm not making any promises at this point, but if I can think of a decent plot I may write a sequel to SoG....we'll see....   :-*

I am actually trying to hold back tears now!  :'(

Do you have other stories planned?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 14, 2006, 05:56:23 pm
I don't have any other stories planned right now.  I will see if anything pops into my head or if a Shades sequel seems like it wants to be written....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 14, 2006, 06:08:11 pm
I don't have any other stories planned right now.  I will see if anything pops into my head or if a Shades sequel seems like it wants to be written....

Well, I think you will have enough followers for whatever you will write. You are an amazing writer. I can't believe I almost didn't start to read SOG, because honestly, I thought the idea of Jack as a criminal and Ennis as a cop was crazy! But you did it, Amy, and I applaud you for that!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on December 14, 2006, 06:11:39 pm
So..... that means definitely no If I Asked sequel?  :-\  I've been secretely hoping for that, even more so after "Force of Nature" proved how compelling a post-movin'-in-with-each-other fic could really be. (Something I had secretly doubted  :o ) I could see some riveting possibilities for IIA J&E down the road of a few years..... For instance, what happens as the kids get a little older? Even some scary plot development possibilities if/when the local tire iron wielders eventually get a whiff of our heroes. How would your Ennis develop in the face of something like that? SoG certainly proved you'd be able to write that kind of scenario too........  :o


Anyway, you have to go where your interests and ideas take you, of course.  :)
But I so do hope you'll continue writing BBM fics. The fandom wouldn't be the same without your amazing writer's talent and true passion for and understanding of J&E.   :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on December 14, 2006, 06:16:14 pm
I don't have any other stories planned right now.  I will see if anything pops into my head or if a Shades sequel seems like it wants to be written....

It wants to be written.

Well...... I want it to be written.  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on December 14, 2006, 06:43:16 pm
It wants to be written.

Well...... I want it to be written.  :)

LOL I second that...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on December 14, 2006, 07:40:40 pm
OK Amy, what this means is that i will hold off reading this weeks chapter until after NEXT Thursday...lol. Why?? I will need something to defocus from my impending marriage, with the wrong address given for the church and no cake ordered yet and no clothes for my groomsmen except for the shirts I bought in Cheyenne...and..and...


Jack
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 14, 2006, 08:11:48 pm
OMG, Jack!  You're getting married?  When, where, who?  I want all the details!  LOL.   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on December 14, 2006, 08:30:19 pm
 The same girl whom AP said '30 YEARS??? Give your fiance my sympathies.'' about when we met up with her.

Very embaressing to have taken longer then Ennis Delmar did to say I Love You---especially after being asked if I would be the paternal influence to her son when his bio fatherr walked out, what with years of flying back and forth for school plays, the whole bit. Especially when I really WAS an EDM here, always pulling back while knowing... and to have Annie Proulx say it was  just too much lol. Especially since  BBM is what made me get off my arse and  figure it out. When i said I Love You, as in I am IN love with you and have been since we were 19 she dropped the phone, she's waited a l;ong time...I got flipped out the other day when 3 different PM's  and emails from brokies said this and the I'mjackshesennis romance were the 2 most romantic brokeback romances of 2006. It was the secret [to everybody but her]cowboy engagement up in Cheyenne whut did it methinks. All those cheering cowboys and Keith Urban playing the song I'd asked for, and the dozens of yellow roses brought to the stands...

Jan 6, in NYC
With reception following

then a honeymoon she doesnt know about even though everybody else from our mothers to our son to brokies everywhere. Even the Baldwin Brothers know about it. I'm taking her to Vienna.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 14, 2006, 08:41:46 pm
Okay, guys, I'm going to go ahead and tell you the story will be ending next week.  I didn't give people a heads up when IIA ended and some people were floored.  In retrospect, I think I ended that story too soon, but I didn't feel like I had much choice since I could only exlpore Jack's pov.  I know some of you are going to be upset that you won't get to see more of what becomes of SoG Jack and Ennis once they find each other again, but to me, that feels like a new story.  I'm not making any promises at this point, but if I can think of a decent plot I may write a sequel to SoG....we'll see....   :-*

I would LOVE that, Amy  :) Would love to see them build a life together, very much  :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 15, 2006, 03:53:20 am
OMG, Jack!  You're getting married?  When, where, who?  I want all the details!  LOL.   ;)

I've just woken up and misread this as Jack and Ennis getting married...and in my sleep-grogged state was wondering how you were going to do that with just one chapter left.

Hope no one starts sharing the news of impending births or first days at kindergarten, otherwise I might never recover.....

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 15, 2006, 04:05:00 am

I am sad for Ennis that his friendship with Colin is over, but it was inevitable really when I read this chapter. I was hoping there would be a way in which Colin would understand, but Ennis did risk Colin's career in every way possible, so I guess that means the end of a friendship.

I agree it was pretty inevitable....and I think it was so from the second Ennis first compromised his position.   I'd held out hopes of him being something more,but  it just wasn't to be.

At least Colin told Ennis where Jack was, and liked/respected Ennis enough to not let him go down in the internal investigation when he could easily have put Ennis in the shit.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 15, 2006, 04:07:15 am
  I'm not making any promises at this point, but if I can think of a decent plot I may write a sequel to SoG....we'll see....   :-*

Well, you know, if you make Ennis a PI then, in theory, you could have a never ending stream of Jack/Ennis books....
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 15, 2006, 04:21:56 am
I've just woken up and misread this as Jack and Ennis getting married...and in my sleep-grogged state was wondering how you were going to do that with just one chapter left.

Hope no one starts sharing the news of impending births or first days at kindergarten, otherwise I might never recover.....

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

OMG H! LOLLOL!   :laugh:   ::)   :laugh:
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on December 15, 2006, 04:23:38 am
LMAO!

No impending births, just 2 freakin wedding receptions...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 15, 2006, 04:45:25 am
http://www.neddi.org/rescueddonkeys.jpg

Hey June, have you chosen your Jack and Ennis getaway donkey yet?

Continuing down the path of Ennis and Jack as the gay male equivalent of Jessica Fletcher Kinsey Millhone....every good PI needs a USP (unique seeling point).....and a donkey could be it for our guys...

"for he loved a little donkey"

What do you think?

 ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 15, 2006, 06:20:31 am
http://www.neddi.org/rescueddonkeys.jpg

Hey June, have you chosen your Jack and Ennis getaway donkey yet?

Continuing down the path of Ennis and Jack as the gay male equivalent of Jessica Fletcher Kinsey Millhone....every good PI needs a USP (unique seeling point).....and a donkey could be it for our guys...

"for he loved a little donkey"

What do you think?

 ;D

Heh ~ I think it's cute and sweet and just a leetle crazy! LOL 

Awww and I just adore the chocolatey brown one  :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 15, 2006, 07:40:40 am

At least Colin told Ennis where Jack was

Yeah, I was thinking about that on my way to work this morning, he didn't have to tell him, but he did. Why is that?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on December 15, 2006, 09:41:52 pm
havent read it yet and Idont feel 'spoiled'---Colin told him because he was a good guy and had some compassion no matter what--Ennis screwed up his life for love of Jack last time, to let him know where Jack was is a natural male reaction whether or not Colin and Ennis remain friends --which i don't know yet..
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on December 20, 2006, 06:56:50 am
Well it's Wednesday, which is good because it's (hopefully) SOG update day tomorrow.

However, it might be the last one, which is bad, because I just love this story and what Amy has done with the characters so much that I don't want it to end.

I'm getting withdrawal symptoms already and it's not even finished.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on December 20, 2006, 08:44:07 am
It is the last one, Karen...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 20, 2006, 10:11:51 am
Giving you guys a heads up.  I don't know if SoG will be up tomorrow or not.  It might be Friday or even Saturday.  The chapter isn't done yet, I have tons of RL stuff to do for the holidays and I haven't even started answering comments from last chapter (which, to be honest, might have to wait until Chapter 18 is up if you guys want to see it before Christmas).  Sorry!  I'll keep you posted.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Kazza on December 20, 2006, 10:41:02 am
Giving you guys a heads up.  I don't know if SoG will be up tomorrow or not.  It might be Friday or even Saturday.  The chapter isn't done yet, I have tons of RL stuff to do for the holidays and I haven't even started answering comments from last chapter (which, to be honest, might have to wait until Chapter 18 is up if you guys want to see it before Christmas).  Sorry!  I'll keep you posted.

Hey - don't worry if it's late - just as long as it's a really, really long one  ;)

100 or so pages should suffice.  ;)

No, all joking aside I don't think that any of the admirers of your work object to waiting for an update.

Karen
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 20, 2006, 03:16:11 pm
Might be Saturday? Oh well, at least that will be the start of my 11-day Holiday, so it's all good...

 :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 20, 2006, 09:06:28 pm
Okay, looks like it's going to go up tomorrow morning.  Longest chapter so far.  But there's no way I'll get all the Chapter 17 comments answered before then.  So I apologize in advance for that and promise to respond to them in the next day or so.  Thanks, guys!  Amy
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on December 20, 2006, 09:07:54 pm
Yay!!

No need to apologize, you are so amazing about getting everything out on time you spoil us  :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 21, 2006, 07:25:47 am
Okay, looks like it's going to go up tomorrow morning.  Longest chapter so far.  But there's no way I'll get all the Chapter 17 comments answered before then.  So I apologize in advance for that and promise to respond to them in the next day or so.  Thanks, guys!  Amy

Oh this is fantastic, I agree with Mandy that you have no reason for apologizing!  :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 21, 2006, 12:24:39 pm
Hey, guys, the final chapter is up at: http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/8790.html   Thanks so much for everything!   ;)  :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 21, 2006, 03:54:11 pm
This chapter really felt like closure, Amy, for me as a reader at least. Jack and Ennis are together and they are happy together. Thank you for this wonderful final chapter! I will write more feedback tomorrow.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on December 21, 2006, 05:11:35 pm
I haven't read the chapter yet Amy... for two reasons.

I was busy running around town all morning and I don't want the story to end!  :'(

I just wonder how long I can hold out though. Another hour? Maybe two. Who knows, but I figure as long as I don't read the final chapter, SoG is still a work in progress, which is what I like because I really have learned to look forward to Thursdays now because of your wonderful story!  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 21, 2006, 05:22:33 pm
I haven't read the chapter yet Amy... for two reasons.

I was busy running around town all morning and I don't want the story to end!  :'(

I just wonder how long I can hold out though. Another hour? Maybe two. Who knows, but I figure as long as I don't read the final chapter, SoG is still a work in progress, which is what I like because I really have learned to look forward to Thursdays now because of your wonderful story!  :)

Go on, read it, I wanna discuss it with you!  :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: angry little lawyer on December 22, 2006, 12:08:39 am
Awww..the ending was so great! I loved that Ennis got Jack to believe in them! I'm sad its over but so glad they got together in the end!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on December 22, 2006, 12:02:11 pm
Excellent story. If the story had to come to an end, at least that was a perfect ending. Thanks.

cc33 / Leslie

(Amy - I tried to leave a comment on LJ, but wasn't able to.)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: RouxB on December 22, 2006, 09:42:56 pm
I have to thank Mandytheminchoutakalittleguitar for recommending this story. I had it on my "I'll get to it" list but wasn't quite getting to it.  Was a bit apprehensive about the AUness of it I suppose. Well, one chapter and I was a goner. I was up til 4 in the moring reading. Love it, love it.

Just shows to go ya-don't be to quick to judge cuz you never know where you might find a gift.

 O0
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on December 22, 2006, 10:05:47 pm
I have to thank Mandytheminchoutakalittleguitar for recommending this story. I had it on my "I'll get to it" list but wasn't quite getting to it.  Was a bit apprehensive about the AUness of it I suppose. Well, one chapter and I was a goner. I was up til 4 in the moring reading. Love it, love it.

Just shows to go ya-don't be to quick to judge cuz you never know where you might find a gift.

 O0


I did the exact same thing. Melissa told me about it. I couldn't stop reading it. I was up all night!  :)

I haven't read the last chapter yet. I'm hanging on to it... saving it like I would the last sip of a delicious rare champagne.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on December 22, 2006, 10:30:53 pm
Hey there Roux!! I'm so glad you finally read it, isn't it amazing? That first chapter had me hooked too... I'm a little envious that you started it after it was finished... I love finding fics when they are already complete so that I can have the entire experience and don't have to wait for the next update  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on December 22, 2006, 10:38:49 pm
I'm not reading the thread yet, i have the last 2 chapters saved up for after Christmas....
jack
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: RouxB on December 22, 2006, 11:15:20 pm
Hey there Roux!! I'm so glad you finally read it, isn't it amazing? That first chapter had me hooked too... I'm a little envious that you started it after it was finished... I love finding fics when they are already complete so that I can have the entire experience and don't have to wait for the next update  :D

Me too-trying to find fics that are complete to read while I'm waiting for updates to others that I'm reading. The down side is I don't get to savor them the way I do when I wait for an update and get all excited when I get that email notice that a new chapter has been posted (though Elfellon faked me out today).

I have about 10 chapters left of Shades of Grey - am putting off getting started-making myself jumpy with antici-------pation::)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on December 22, 2006, 11:20:42 pm
I know just what you mean, I love that little email notice  :)

So, what part are you on now in Shades?? I'm thinking of going back to re read it...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: RouxB on December 23, 2006, 12:47:50 am
I'm somewhere around chap 8-they just had the first, no-holds-barred mack attack. Ennis having found the gun on Jack and them making "mad" love. It's getting later and later and I still haven't started reading-I think because I know it'll be over tonight. It is such a contradictory thing with me-I hate to have stories end but timing is everything-can't drag it out forever.

I updated and re-sorted my fan fic excel sheet and I am actively reading 16 stories, have 8 that I fear are abandoned-a couple of which I really miss, and about 30 identified and in the wings.

I really need to throw in some reading that doesn't involve Ennis, Jack, Heath or Jake  :P

 O0
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on December 23, 2006, 08:23:51 pm
I just wanted to thank you all for your support and encouragement, that includes both new readers and those who were in on Shades from the beginning.  I could never have gotten through the weekly posting schedule if not for your enthusiasm.  Anyway, thanks again to *all* of you and I hope you have a great holiday season!  Amy
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 24, 2006, 06:21:10 am
I just wanted to thank you all for your support and encouragement, that includes both new readers and those who were in on Shades from the beginning.  I could never have gotten through the weekly posting schedule if not for your enthusiasm.  Anyway, thanks again to *all* of you and I hope you have a great holiday season!  Amy

Thank YOU Amy for offering us the excitement of a new chapter every Thursday, not finding an update will be difficult to handle next Thursday... but I am so happy you gave Jack and Ennis their happy ending! Good luck with everything you are planning to write next!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 24, 2006, 12:02:14 pm
I love that little email notice  :)



Me too  :)

And I adore your sig line, Mandy  :) That really choked me up when I read it for the first time
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on December 24, 2006, 12:04:41 pm

I updated and re-sorted my fan fic excel sheet


OMG! That sounds so wonderfully organised! I don't have anything like that!  ;D It's all in my head! Wish I did though  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on December 24, 2006, 05:01:29 pm
I'm saving the last chapter for tomorrow (Christmas). I'm planning on reading it once all the bedlam is over and everyone is gone. It's been killing me though. A few times I almost opened it up and read it.

Amy, I sure wish you would think about writing a sequel to this story. The characters are so believable. I have fallen in love with them and I hate to see this end.

Will you? Please?

Please? Please? Please?

I'll stop begging now. <blush>
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on December 25, 2006, 04:37:54 am
I'm saving the last chapter for tomorrow (Christmas). I'm planning on reading it once all the bedlam is over and everyone is gone. It's been killing me though. A few times I almost opened it up and read it.

Amy, I sure wish you would think about writing a sequel to this story. The characters are so believable. I have fallen in love with them and I hate to see this end.

Will you? Please?

Please? Please? Please?

I'll stop begging now. <blush>

I think she will find a way to write a sequel and if she doesn't, she will find a new story to write and we will like it just as much as SOG!

Did you already finish her first story, If I asked?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on December 25, 2006, 10:42:12 am
Me too  :)

And I adore your sig line, Mandy  :) That really choked me up when I read it for the first time

Thanks, June! Me too... I had been waiting for the perfect quote to use from that story and as soon as I read that I knew that was it.  :)

I think I'm going to go back and re read If I asked... it's been a long time now and I remember when it wrapped up I thought that it would be nice to read the entire thing without having to wait between chapters. I'll probably do the same with Shades now.

Amy thank you so much for the wonderful stories you've given us  :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: notBastet on January 06, 2007, 11:46:13 am
OMG! That sounds so wonderfully organised! I don't have anything like that!  ;D It's all in my head! Wish I did though  :D

me too, junie!  (i.e. it's all in my head and i wish i was more organized!!)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on January 06, 2007, 12:29:43 pm
me too, junie!  (i.e. it's all in my head and i wish i was more organized!!)

Whew! Glad I'm not the only one, Kelly  ;D

How have you been?  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on January 07, 2007, 04:16:26 am
Amy -

What a beautiful ending to SoG!!

I loved it!

Should we hope for a sequel in the near future??

The future??

The distant future??

Anything??

I'll get up off my knees now. I promise I won't beg anymore!  :'(

I can't begin to tell you how accurately you describe the life of a gay man. It is remarkable.

I hope you will consider a sequel Amy! I loved SoG!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on January 07, 2007, 05:55:53 am
Amy -

What a beautiful ending to SoG!!

I loved it!

Should we hope for a sequel in the near future??

The future??

The distant future??

                             ME too david, i loved shades of grey,,and i wont beg, but i would be

                    most grateful if you could see it in your heart to take the characters further

                    into their future,,,,that story was wonderful..............janice

Anything??

I'll get up off my knees now. I promise I won't beg anymore!  :'(

I can't begin to tell you how accurately you describe the life of a gay man. It is remarkable.

I hope you will consider a sequel Amy! I loved SoG!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on January 07, 2007, 06:45:36 am
Amy -

What a beautiful ending to SoG!!

I loved it!

Should we hope for a sequel in the near future??

The future??

The distant future??

Anything??

I'll get up off my knees now. I promise I won't beg anymore!  :'(

I can't begin to tell you how accurately you describe the life of a gay man. It is remarkable.

I hope you will consider a sequel Amy! I loved SoG!  :D

Even though I would be first in line to read a sequel to this, I do feel there is some sense of closure in that last chapter.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on January 08, 2007, 03:12:17 pm
Hi, guys.  Sorry I've been MIA.  Those damn holidays!

David, I can't say how much I appreciate your kind words about my accurately depicting the life of a gay man.  There's not greater compliment than that...honestly.

As for a Shades sequel...I don't know.  No big idea for one has hit me yet.  Right now I'm trying to finish a re-write on my original novel and then I need to try and find an agent.  Once that's complete I do have a J/E plot bunny that won't seem to let me go.  So we'll see....  I'll keep you guys posted.

In the meantime, thanks so much for your kind words about Shades.  I really appreciated all your encouragement along the way!  Love, A
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on January 08, 2007, 03:49:16 pm
Hi, guys.  Sorry I've been MIA.  Those damn holidays!

David, I can't say how much I appreciate your kind words about my accurately depicting the life of a gay man.  There's not greater compliment than that...honestly.

As for a Shades sequel...I don't know.  No big idea for one has hit me yet.  Right now I'm trying to finish a re-write on my original novel and then I need to try and find an agent.  Once that's complete I do have a J/E plot bunny that won't seem to let me go.  So we'll see....  I'll keep you guys posted.

In the meantime, thanks so much for your kind words about Shades.  I really appreciated all your encouragement along the way!  Love, A

Amy, good luck with finding an agent for your original novel. Are you able to tell us what it is about?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on January 11, 2007, 02:38:04 am
BUMP!!!!  (because Shades of Grey is worth a few good thread bumps)  :D

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on January 11, 2007, 06:22:43 am
BUMP!!!!  (because Shades of Grey is worth a few good thread bumps)  :D



Bumpeteebump... anybody here who hasn't read this yet?

 ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on January 12, 2007, 02:17:02 am
Bumpeteebump... anybody here who hasn't read this yet?

 ;D

I don't know Melissa, but if there is I'll find them!

I'll send them on over so they can read it.  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on January 13, 2007, 08:25:10 am
Hey Amy!!!

Still haven't read the last 2 final chapters, there was a terrible slow dialup connection in NYC AND THEN GETTING MARRIED TOOK ALL MY TIME <G>. And now, well we are in Vienna. So as soon as I get back it's #1 on the agenda. I need quiet to read this story.

Jack
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: MaineWriter on January 13, 2007, 08:30:45 am
Hey, congratulations, Jack!

Looking forward to having you back. In the meantime, enjoy Vienna...I am assuming Austria, not Maine! LOL

Leslie
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on January 16, 2007, 11:58:44 pm
Amy, good luck with finding an agent for your original novel. Are you able to tell us what it is about?

Hi, sorry it's taken me so long to respond!  RL has been craaaazy!  Well, my original novel is not in the least bit slashy, I hate to say.  It's a mystery with a female criminal defense attorney as the main character.  My goal is to have the re-write done a month from now and get query letters out soon after, but we'll see.  The re-write process can be a real bitch sometimes.  Ugh.  Hope you all are doing well!  Amy
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on January 17, 2007, 09:45:07 am
Hi, sorry it's taken me so long to respond!  RL has been craaaazy!  Well, my original novel is not in the least bit slashy, I hate to say.  It's a mystery with a female criminal defense attorney as the main character.  My goal is to have the re-write done a month from now and get query letters out soon after, but we'll see.  The re-write process can be a real bitch sometimes.  Ugh.  Hope you all are doing well!  Amy

Oh that's so exciting! Good luck, rewriting is the hardest thing about writing, isn't it? I always think so! Frustrates the hell out of me! 
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on January 17, 2007, 11:55:24 am
Good luck getting published, Amy!  :D  I love mysteries with a female lead.
Leslie
Title: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: David In Indy on January 18, 2007, 09:01:11 pm
There is a wonderful piece of fanfic called "Shades of Grey" written by a fellow Bettermost member. Melissa and I are currently encouraging other Bettermost members to read this remarkable story. I am creating this thread to discuss the story in depth with other members. Anyone is welcome to post here.

Please bear in mind we will be posting spoilers in here. If you haven't read Amy's story yet, you might want to start by reading her thread on Bettermost located in the Fanfic forum....

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,4825.1095.html (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,4825.1095.html)

You can also jump directly to the first chapter of her story using the following link...

http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/3784.html (http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/3784.html)
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: David In Indy on January 18, 2007, 09:03:33 pm
So Kerry, what did you think of chapter 1? Have you started chapter 2 yet?

When Melissa first told me about SoG, I read the first 7 chapters in one night! haha. Yeah, I REALLY liked  it.  :)
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: Kerry on January 18, 2007, 11:30:58 pm
So Kerry, what did you think of chapter 1? Have you started chapter 2 yet?

When Melissa first told me about SoG, I read the first 7 chapters in one night! haha. Yeah, I REALLY liked  it.  :)

David, I have read glowing reports about "Shades of Grey" and am keen to join in the discussion process. However, I have only read Chapter 1 so far, and am concerned about your warning re spoilers (I don't want any secrets to be given away before I get to them). For that reason, I would prefer to read the full story before commenting further. I hope to be able to do that later tonight and join in the discussion soon thereafter.

Chapter 1 got me good, right from the outset! I love atmospheric writing, where you can smell a scene, as well as read it. And the author of SOG is an atmospheric author par excellence!  The highly charged, underlying sexual tension between Jack and Ennis had me sitting on the edge of my seat, especially when they were face to face, Ennis with his hand 1mm from Jack's "wound"! Please, quick, someone hand me a fan!!!!!

Sparks flying! Can't wait for more!
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: David In Indy on January 19, 2007, 12:03:11 am
David, I have read glowing reports about "Shades of Grey" and am keen to join in the discussion process. However, I have only read Chapter 1 so far, and am concerned about your warning re spoilers (I don't want any secrets to be given away before I get to them). For that reason, I would prefer to read the full story before commenting further. I hope to be able to do that later tonight and join in the discussion soon thereafter.

Chapter 1 got me good, right from the outset! I love atmospheric writing, where you can smell a scene, as well as read it. And the author of SOG is an atmospheric author par excellence!  The highly charged, underlying sexual tension between Jack and Ennis had me sitting on the edge of my seat, especially when they were face to face, Ennis with his hand 1mm from Jack's "wound"! Please, quick, someone hand me a fan!!!!!

Sparks flying! Can't wait for more!


Well Kerry, I created this thread for the three of us, so we wouldn't discuss anything you haven't read yet!  :)

But if you want to hold off posting until you've read the story, that's fine too!

Just as soon as you are ready, drop a message in here and we'll start talking about it buddy!  :D
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: David In Indy on January 19, 2007, 01:24:42 am
Here are the links for Chapters 2 through 6 of SoG.....

Chapter 2

http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/4526.html (http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/4526.html)


Chapter 3

http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/4649.html (http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/4649.html)


Chapter 4

http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/5010.html (http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/5010.html)


Chapter 5

http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/5256.html (http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/5256.html)


Chapter 6

http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/5473.html (http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/5473.html)

 :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: mvansand76 on January 19, 2007, 08:16:29 am
Hey you two! I am quite pleased to see this thread, but why in Anything Goes? Should it not be in Fanfiction? Oh I know, so people who don't read fanfiction will be convinced to go read this too?

Kerry, I hope you will be able to get at least SOME work done today! LOL.



Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on January 19, 2007, 10:54:16 pm
Shades of Gray!
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Which%20Jake/blue.jpg)
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: David In Indy on January 20, 2007, 12:02:24 am
Hey you two! I am quite pleased to see this thread, but why in Anything Goes? Should it not be in Fanfiction? Oh I know, so people who don't read fanfiction will be convinced to go read this too?

Kerry, I hope you will be able to get at least SOME work done today! LOL.





I asked one of the moderators where I should place this thread and they said either in the Fanfiction forum or in Anything Goes.

Since there is already a Shades of Grey thread in the Fanfiction forum, placing another thread there wouldn't make much sense, so I decided to post it here.

Who does this remind you of?

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g243/muscleclad123/pic03.jpg)
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: David In Indy on January 20, 2007, 12:21:18 am
Another SoG Jack picture.

I love the "James Dean" look...



(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e209/acansino/JakeGyllenhaal.jpg)
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: David In Indy on January 20, 2007, 12:30:09 am
Yup. Another one....   



(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/patriciakristine/adf913a2.jpg)



Okay. I'll stop now.   :D
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: David In Indy on January 20, 2007, 01:47:12 am
Yeah, I know I said I would stop...

I WAS LYING!


For some reason, I always pictured Dane looking a bit like Orlando Bloom...



(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i15/sparrow3126/orlando%20bloom/orlandobloom7-1.jpg)
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: David In Indy on January 20, 2007, 01:58:45 am
Damn.... I can't seem to find any good SoG Ennis pictures though.

I'll keep looking.  :D
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: David In Indy on January 20, 2007, 02:13:30 am
SoG Ennis??

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g87/latrala/039_45231.jpg)

Whacha think?

Yeah, me too.

I'll keep looking......
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: David In Indy on January 20, 2007, 02:15:40 am
DEFINATELY NOT an SoG Ennis, but damn he looks cute in this picture...

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1/prunk_barbie/HeathLedger.jpg)
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: David In Indy on January 20, 2007, 02:18:45 am
This is about as close to the SoG Ennis as I can find....


(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c39/Iam8811/heath2.jpg)
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: Kerry on January 20, 2007, 05:17:49 am
I asked one of the moderators where I should place this thread and they said either in the Fanfiction forum or in Anything Goes.Since there is already a Shades of Grey thread in the Fanfiction forum, placing another thread there wouldn't make much sense, so I decided to post it here.

I'm sure you made the right choice, David. A second Shades of Grey thread in the fanfic section would have been confusing.  :)
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: Kerry on January 20, 2007, 05:22:47 am
This is about as close to the SoG Ennis as I can find....

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c39/Iam8811/heath2.jpg)

David - I see the Shades of Grey Ennis as being very clean-cut and straight-laced, with neat haircut, wearing  a dark business suit, silk necktie and mirror sunglasses  8) Not the scruff-ball above LOL  :o  I don't know that I've ever seen Heath in a business suit LOL  :-\
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: mvansand76 on January 20, 2007, 06:26:33 am
Well, there are some SOG-Ennis pictures posted on the original thread! In suit and all if I remember correctly.... ;D
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: Kerry on January 20, 2007, 07:00:13 am
Another SoG Jack picture.

I love the "James Dean" look...

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e209/acansino/JakeGyllenhaal.jpg)

Hmmm, Not much in the "buns" department there, sadly  LOL :-\  Amy describes SoG Jack as being very fit, working-out daily. I imagined him as having more curvaceous buns than this LOL  :P

I have always been of the opinion that Jake's greatest asset is his beautiful face; specifically his gorgeous, sad eyes!  :-*
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: Kerry on January 20, 2007, 07:04:51 am
Yeah, I know I said I would stop...

I WAS LYING!


For some reason, I always pictured Dane looking a bit like Orlando Bloom...



(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i15/sparrow3126/orlando%20bloom/orlandobloom7-1.jpg)



Hmm, I don't know who Orlando Bloom is   ???  Looks a bit plain to me LOL   :-\  Can't imagine Jack being interested in ol' Orly when there's a prize stud like Ennis sniffing about  :P
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: mvansand76 on January 20, 2007, 07:08:03 am
Hmmm, Not much in the "buns" department there, sadly  :-\  I have always been of the opinion that Jake's greatest asset is his beautiful face; specifically his gorgeous, sad eyes!  :-*

The gorgeous sad eyes and... the hair.... THE HAIR!!!!!!
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: mvansand76 on January 20, 2007, 07:08:53 am
Oh sorry, let's get back to discussing SOG, how far are you in the story Kerry?
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: Kerry on January 20, 2007, 08:05:18 am
Oh sorry, let's get back to discussing SOG, how far are you in the story Kerry?

Thank you for asking. I have just come back after taking a dinner break and am about half-way through SoG so far. I didn't necessary take the break because I was hungry. I took the break because I was feeling absolutely devastated! I felt like my intestines had been ripped out and draped around my apartment!

I feel like I've been on an emotional rollercoaster with this story, ranging from the heights of  exhilarating elation to the depths of utter despair. I have been either laughing out loud or weeping profusely, to the point where I could not see the screen at times, as a result of both of those emotional extremes.

Between times, I have literally suffered stomach cramps as a result of the profound levels of underlying sexual tension, literally sparking off the screen.

I would like to give David a big thank you for bringing SoG to my attention. Thank you, David! I am loving this story. I must confess, however, that I was dubious, when David first suggested I read it. I was OK with Ennis being an FBI agent. But Jack, a criminal? I wouldn't allow myself to even imagine such a sacrilege! But that was then, not now.

There is so much about this story that's good excellent, I can't begin to quote a specifically favourite bit, in particular. However, having said that, there are two quotes that I'd like to re-quote here, that produced overtly wrenching emotional reactions in me:

"He touched your face, and you liked it."

and

"But when Ennis came . . . it was with Jack's face behind his eyelids and Jack's name against his lips."

Amy has believably and convincingly drawn upon and utilised many of the expressions, mannerisms and intonations of Jack & Ennis, with which we are all familiar. I found that some of my most devestating emotional reactions came as a result of the utilisation of this device by Amy. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the word pictures Amy created, allowed me to "see" Jack and Ennis in these roles. This moved me profoundly.

I hope to read the remainder of SoG this evening and look forward to enjoying forthcoming lively discussion. 
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: mvansand76 on January 20, 2007, 10:05:59 am
Kerry I am so happy that you decided to read SOG. I remember David reacted the same way when I told him about the premise before he read it... he thought it was crazy...and he ended up liking it as much as you do! I only started reading when it was at eight chapters because I thought it was such a silly premise, but then I thought about Amy's first fanfic (If I Asked) and how that was my favorite so far, I decided to give it a go!

When you are done reading this story, you should read Amy's If I Asked, it's a classic!
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: David In Indy on January 20, 2007, 03:16:41 pm
Don't thank me, Kerry. Thank Melissa. Just think, if she hadn't told me about SoG, I  would have never told you!

And Melissa is correct. I was very skeptical when she first told me about Amy's story. I remember I was intrigued after I finished with chapter one; I was completely hooked after chapter 2.

Re Ennis pictures: actually I picture Ennis looking like BBM Ennis, only without a cowboy hat! But remember SoG Ennis probably didn't wear his business clothes in the apartment. Sometimes he barely wore anything at all!  :)

I'm having a difficult time finding good SoG Ennis pictures. I found a few, but Heath's hair was too short; almost shaved.

I dunno Kerry. I'll keep looking!

Edit: Typos, typos.... lots and lots of typos.  >:(
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: David In Indy on January 20, 2007, 03:25:05 pm

Amy has believably and convincingly drawn upon and utilised many of the expressions, mannerisms and intonations of Jack & Ennis, with which we are all familiar. I found that some of my most devestating emotional reactions came as a result of the utilisation of this device by Amy. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the word pictures Amy created, allowed me to "see" Jack and Ennis in these roles. This moved me profoundly.

I hope to read the remainder of SoG this evening and look forward to enjoying forthcoming lively discussion. 

Amy did a beautiful job of preserving the Ennis and Jack we all fell in love with on BBM.  :)
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: Kerry on January 20, 2007, 10:05:09 pm
Here's another favourite quote:

"Ennis tried to hold back, to go slow, to stay in control, but the feel of Jack, the sound of his voice, husky and slurred, the smell of his skin, combined to rush Ennis over the edge - falling from the precipice he'd been balancing on since the moment he'd met Jack Twist."

Are you sure you're not a gay man, Amy LOL? It would appear that you have an insight into the gay male psyche!

There's so much here that's goooood! I could literally smell Jack as I read this! And I liked what I was smelling! No nasty ol' pussy eau de cologne for our Jack! Oh-no, he smelt like a maaaan! Ain't nothin' quite like that smell! 

And the reference to Jack's voice being "husky and slurred" - this is something else that personally "presses my buttons" every time. When a man is on "the edge" and he's breathing hot and fast in your ear, leaning in low, his voice "husky and slurred"! You have captured this moment in time exquisitely.

I made a valiant attempt to avoid using this expression up until now but, hey, I'm compelled to say it - WOW!
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: midwest-girl on January 20, 2007, 10:14:02 pm
Hey, guys!  I'm so glad you like Shades, Kerry.  I was hesitant to pop in here because I want you guys to feel free to critique the story and not worry about hurting my feelings or anything.  But I just wanted to say "hi" and tell you how much I appreciate your thoughts and feedback!  Amy
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: David In Indy on January 20, 2007, 10:17:12 pm
Here's another favourite quote:

"Ennis tried to hold back, to go slow, to stay in control, but the feel of Jack, the sound of his voice, husky and slurred, the smell of his skin, combined to rush Ennis over the edge - falling from the precipice he'd been balancing on since the moment he'd met Jack Twist."

Are you sure you're not a gay man, Amy LOL? It would appear that you have an insight into the gay male psyche!

There's so much here that's goooood! I could literally smell Jack as I read this! And I liked what I was smelling! No nasty ol' pussy eau de cologne for our Jack! Oh-no, he smelt like a maaaan! Ain't nothin' quite like that smell! 

And the reference to Jack's voice being "husky and slurred" - this is something else that personally "presses my buttons" every time. When a man is on "the edge" and he's breathing hot and fast in your ear, leaning in low, his voice "husky and slurred"! You have captured this moment in time exquisitely.

I made a valiant attempt to avoid using this expression up until now but, hey, I'm compelled to say it - WOW!

Oh, I know it Kerry! I assure you Amy is not a gay man, but I was wondering the same thing when I first read "Shades of Grey". She really describes the life of a gay man perfectly. Not only that, but also what we think, and the emotional turmoil we go through. She also nailed the sex perfectly. It's amazing. I think every gay man should read this story.


The story is nothing short of pure brilliance and pure talent.  :)
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: David In Indy on January 20, 2007, 10:18:27 pm
Hey, guys!  I'm so glad you like Shades, Kerry.  I was hesitant to pop in here because I want you guys to feel free to critique the story and not worry about hurting my feelings or anything.  But I just wanted to say "hi" and tell you how much I appreciate your thoughts and feedback!  Amy

Feel free to stop in here anytime you want, Amy! We would love to hear from you!  :)
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: Kerry on January 20, 2007, 10:23:45 pm
Feel free to stop in here anytime you want, Amy! We would love to hear from you!   :)

Amy - I was just about to send you the same message as David. Please visit often. Great to meet 'ya!  ;D
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: David In Indy on January 20, 2007, 10:31:46 pm
Well, there are some SOG-Ennis pictures posted on the original thread! In suit and all if I remember correctly.... ;D

Were they some of the pictures Leslie posted over there? I'll have to go and have a look. I can't find ANY pictures of Heath in a suit. Thanks for telling us about this, Melissa!  :)
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: Kerry on January 21, 2007, 01:00:32 am
More favourite bits:

"Come her," Jack commanded, the sex in his voice making Ennis's spinal cord vibrate like a plucked wire.

and

Ennis couldn't answer, his vocal chords frozen, his neck muscled tight with anticipation, his whole body threatening to fly apart from the lust expanding in his chest.

and my very favourite

". . . for a moment Ennis forgot how to breathe."

Gasp!  :o

 
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: RouxB on January 21, 2007, 01:36:19 am
Great idea to spread the love by starting this SoG here. Some people are so averse to fanfic but there are some amazing writers and stories out in the big world and Shades of Grey is certainly one of them. I am a fic fan but avoided this one cuz the premise of Jack as drug dealer was more than I could manage. On the recommendation of Lil Mandy I decided to give it a whirl and oh my oh my. I finished it about 2 weeks ago and will start re-reading it tonight. Now I can gush about it in two forums!


 O0

Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: RouxB on January 21, 2007, 01:54:58 am
Some SofG Ennis:

(http://www.waposdecine.com/heathledger/hl09g.jpg)


(http://www.flare.com/images/hype/tiff2005/celeb_heath.jpg)


Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: David In Indy on January 21, 2007, 02:11:57 am
Great idea to spread the love by starting this SoG here. Some people are so averse to fanfic but there are some amazing writers and stories out in the big world and Shades of Grey is certainly one of them. I am a fic fan but avoided this one cuz the premise of Jack as drug dealer was more than I could manage. On the recommendation of Lil Mandy I decided to give it a whirl and oh my oh my. I finished it about 2 weeks ago and will start re-reading it tonight. Now I can gush about it in two forums!


 O0



Welcome Ruby! We'd love it if you would join us!  :)
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: Kerry on January 21, 2007, 03:05:10 am
Some SofG Ennis:

(http://www.flare.com/images/hype/tiff2005/celeb_heath.jpg)

Oh, yes, yes, yes! Be still my beating heart!  8)
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: David In Indy on January 21, 2007, 04:45:36 am

and my very favourite

". . . for a moment Ennis forgot how to breathe."

Gasp!  :o

 

That was one of my favorites too. I still remember reading it, and I haven't revisited the story for several weeks. I'm planning on reading it again from chapter one tomorrow probably. There are so many great lines in the story, but I'm reluctant to mention any of them because I don't want to give anything away before you have finished reading it.  :)
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: Kerry on January 21, 2007, 06:21:05 am
When Ennis was a little boy his mother would tell stories to Junie at night, fairy tales about princes on white horses, rescuing the fair maiden in the tower or saving her from the gnarled hands of the evil witch. K.E. thought the stories were stupid and never stuck around to listen. But Ennis always curled up next to Junie on her pink sheets to hear their mother spin her tales. It wasn’t the stories themselves he found so fascinating, except for the ones where dragons spouted fire and had teeth like splintered needles. It was his mother’s voice he loved and the spell she seemed to effortlessly weave, like a glimmering cloud all around them in the dim bedroom, creating a world that was safe and enchanted, where every ending was happily ever after. When she’d died the spell had been broken and Ennis had never found anyone who could cast it again. Until now, until Jack. What they had together, right in this moment, felt like magic and Ennis didn’t want to be the one to break the spell.

Please, please, please tell me, Amy, that you are submitting manuscripts to publishers. You have a wonderful gift. I also suspect that you probably hold a substantial share portfolio in "Kleenex Inc."   :'(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: bailey on January 21, 2007, 10:08:33 am
Wow, coffeecat!  You found the perfect pic!  That's exactly how I saw Amy's bad boy Jack.  ANd I still think Shades is the best BBM AU ever written.  If anybody deserves to be published, it's Amy.  I can see her writing something like the Cold Case episode Forever Blue. 
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: louisev on January 21, 2007, 12:28:05 pm
Amy, please feel free to start a thread for your original story if you want to share it discreetly.  I know publishers don't like content being put on the internet, but there is nothing to keep you from friends-locking an LJ with your manuscript.  Our mission in Fan Fiction is to expand into original writing wherever someone is working on something and wants to share.
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: mvansand76 on January 21, 2007, 12:50:40 pm
Oh God, there are so many great parts in this story! I loved their first kiss, everything about it was perfect, the dialogue, Ennis' reaction, Jack's tenderness and comforting words. I also loved the part at Ennis' apartment where Jack is looking at the picture of Ennis' mother and Ennis when he was young. The chapter with the gruelling confrontation between them when Ennis tries to interrogate Jack and fails miserably. Difficult to read but so intense and it really showed how much they loved each other!  :'(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on January 21, 2007, 04:16:12 pm
Shades of Gray!
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/coffeecat33/Which%20Jake/blue.jpg)

I love the look on his face in this pic... it's kind of man of mystery, if you ask me  ;)
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: midwest-girl on January 21, 2007, 05:34:01 pm
Please, please, please tell me, Amy, that you are submitting manuscripts to publishers. You have a wonderful gift. I also suspect that you probably hold a substantial share portfolio in "Kleenex Inc."   :'(
Kerry, I do have an original novel done and I'm working on a re-write of it now.  But I still have to go through the grueling process of trying to find an agent.  I'm also toying w/ the idea of cleaning up SoG, changing names, fleshing it out, etc. and seeing if I can get it published.  I'll keep you posted.  But thanks for your kind words!
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: MaineWriter on January 21, 2007, 05:50:34 pm
A note from the moderator:

This discussion originally started over on the Anything Goes thread, but after discussing it with David925, he said it was fine to move it here, since it is a discussion of a fanfic story. So...there is a redirection post at Anything Goes to point people here.

We have another "Shades of Grey" discussion thread but David was interested in recruiting new readers and thought a new thread might be a little less confusing for those diving in. So for the moment, I will leave these separate...if people have thoughts about merging the two, please let me know!

Enjoy the story, everyone!

Leslie
Moderator, Fanfic
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on January 21, 2007, 05:52:25 pm
Amy, please feel free to start a thread for your original story if you want to share it discreetly.  I know publishers don't like content being put on the internet, but there is nothing to keep you from friends-locking an LJ with your manuscript.  Our mission in Fan Fiction is to expand into original writing wherever someone is working on something and wants to share.
Thanks, Louise.  I haven't thought about doing that, actually.  I'm in the midst of a major re-write and don't know that any of it's worth looking at right now.  LOL.
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: midwest-girl on January 21, 2007, 05:53:16 pm
Leslie, it's fine with me whatever you all decide to do about the threads.   ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: MaineWriter on January 21, 2007, 06:46:12 pm
Note from the moderator (again)...

I merged the two threads for the Shades of Grey discussion, in the interest of tidiness and minimizing confusion. If anyone has a question, shoot me a PM. Thanks, all!

And now, back to our regularly scheduled discussion...

Leslie
Moderator, Fanfic
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: Kerry on January 22, 2007, 07:27:52 am
Kerry, I do have an original novel done and I'm working on a re-write of it now.  But I still have to go through the grueling process of trying to find an agent.  I'm also toying w/ the idea of cleaning up SoG, changing names, fleshing it out, etc. and seeing if I can get it published.  I'll keep you posted.   But thanks for your kind words!

Please do keep your fans posted about this, Amy. As I was reading Shades of Grey, I kept thinking what a great novel it would make, with changed names (personally, I am loving it with Jack and Ennis, but I am thinking of a wider audience for your product). And I think it would make a wonderful film. Imaging this - change the names of the lead characters in the script,  but get Jake & Heath to play the lead roles in the movie! Sounds like a sure-fire hit to me!
Title: Re: "Shades of Grey" Discussion Thread **Spoilers**
Post by: mvansand76 on January 22, 2007, 08:09:51 am
Kerry, I do have an original novel done and I'm working on a re-write of it now.  But I still have to go through the grueling process of trying to find an agent.  I'm also toying w/ the idea of cleaning up SoG, changing names, fleshing it out, etc. and seeing if I can get it published.  I'll keep you posted.  But thanks for your kind words!

Oh Amy, more exciting news! Keep us posted about your progress if you have the time!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on January 22, 2007, 08:14:59 am
Wow, coffeecat!  You found the perfect pic!  That's exactly how I saw Amy's bad boy Jack.  ANd I still think Shades is the best BBM AU ever written.  If anybody deserves to be published, it's Amy.  I can see her writing something like the Cold Case episode Forever Blue. 

Oh I heard about that episode, it's supposed to be good, right? I have downloaded it, because here in Holland we are only in the second season I think...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on January 22, 2007, 08:28:02 am
Oh I heard about that episode, it's supposed to be good, right? I have downloaded it, because here in Holland we are only in the second season I think...

I have never watched Cold Case, Mel, cause I really haven't been watching much tv in the past year or so. Is it any good? And is it still on Dutch tv? I know a few authors have done one shots on this episode but I haven't read them cause I have no idea of the pairing and their connection to each other.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on January 22, 2007, 09:10:13 am
I watched "the kiss" on youtube and was like...right, okay. 

I think it shows how different European and American cultures are because show that in the UK and hardly anyone would think anything about it far less think to comment on it, so for it to get so much attention in America really highlights the differences.  (Of course I don't really know how much attention it's got but if people are sufficiently excited and motivated to write slash about it then I guess it's something out of the ordinary.  If UK slash writers wrote all the various pairings that are on TV they'd have no time for anything else; Torchwood would keep them busy for years for a start!)

I don't watch TV and even I can think of three primetime TV programmes that have had gay kissing in the last year or so, and I would imagine there's been more than that.  And the Archers (radio soap) just had a gay wedding.

And I know I'm really straying off topic here but I read an article the other day about the demise of the only gay publishing house in the UK.  There is increasingly less need for separatism because so many mainstream publishers take on gay-themed novels, and few readers think anything much of it.

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on January 22, 2007, 09:16:30 am
I have never watched Cold Case, Mel, cause I really haven't been watching much tv in the past year or so. Is it any good? And is it still on Dutch tv? I know a few authors have done one shots on this episode but I haven't read them cause I have no idea of the pairing and their connection to each other.

It's on Net5, on Saturdays, I've watched it a couple of times, just like all the other crime series, such as Bones, Law&Order and the Closer, and then kinda lost interest. I downloaded this episode because it's supposed to be good and an intriguing story, but haven't watched it yet. I don't watch much tv either, especially now that I am writing again. The only TV show that I absolutely ADORE is Grey's anatomy, that's my favorite series to come out of the US in years, even better than ER! Do you watch that?

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on January 22, 2007, 09:23:44 am
Here's a nice gay kiss from Torchwood.

I wish I'd watched the series now!  LOL

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on January 22, 2007, 09:42:50 am
Cold Case clip

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on January 22, 2007, 09:46:24 am
Here's a nice gay kiss from Torchwood.

I wish I'd watched the series now!  LOL



Aw thanks H, that was lovely  :)

I would have loved watching this series too
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on January 22, 2007, 09:55:31 am
I don't watch Cold Case generally, but the Forever Blue episode was lovely.  I wrote a one-shot about it for anyone who's interested and has seen the show.  It's at http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/9142.html
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on January 22, 2007, 09:57:16 am
I thought it was interesting that the CC kiss was camera angles and suggestion, whereas TW was an actual kiss.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on January 22, 2007, 10:01:23 am
So Torchwood is a Doctor Who spinoff? (I looked it up on bbc.co.uk) Weee heee heee! Never watched it! We don't have BBC 3!  :-\
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on January 22, 2007, 10:02:46 am
I don't watch Cold Case generally, but the Forever Blue episode was lovely.  I wrote a one-shot about it for anyone who's interested and has seen the show.  It's at http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/9142.html

Oh I will definitely read it once I'v seen the episode!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on January 22, 2007, 10:08:46 am
So Torchwood is a Doctor Who spinoff? (I looked it up on bbc.co.uk) Weee heee heee! Never watched it! We don't have BBC 3!  :-\

Yes it is.  According to my husband there have been a variety of kisses and other things between men/men, women/women, humans/aliens.  He and my mum watched it.  The kiss was from the last episode I think, or last but one.

Amy, I read your story, but think I need to be into the set up to fully enjoy it :)   although your characterisation was good I think. It came across that these were two particular men with particular traits rather than just random "anymen". :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on January 22, 2007, 10:08:58 am
It's on Net5, on Saturdays, I've watched it a couple of times, just like all the other crime series, such as Bones, Law&Order and the Closer, and then kinda lost interest. I downloaded this episode because it's supposed to be good and an intriguing story, but haven't watched it yet. I don't watch much tv either, especially now that I am writing again. The only TV show that I absolutely ADORE is Grey's anatomy, that's my favorite series to come out of the US in years, even better than ER! Do you watch that?



Yeah, I adore Grey's Anatomy, my whole family is addicted to it. I'm so far behind with what's happened though that I've stopped watching it for the moment. And ER is just wonderful. I watched that from the very beginning with George Clooney years and years and years ago  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on January 22, 2007, 10:12:03 am
I don't watch Cold Case generally, but the Forever Blue episode was lovely.  I wrote a one-shot about it for anyone who's interested and has seen the show.  It's at http://midwest-girl.livejournal.com/9142.html

I want to see the show first too  :)

Mel, where did you download it from?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on January 22, 2007, 10:36:10 am
I want to see the show first too  :)

Mel, where did you download it from?

Oh I have to check that, let me get back to you about that, will look it up once I get home!

Oh yes, ER is one of the best shows ever, but I am not watching it anymore, it went downhill after season 9 I think... I think they took out an essential element: humour... it's all so bleak. That's what I like about GA, the characters don't take themselves too seriously and it's funny but also heartbreaking at times (did you see the episode with Izzy and Danny?) and the characters are very real and even freakishly annoying at times!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: insane-romantic on January 22, 2007, 12:22:57 pm
Hey, I've never read AU AU fanfic before, but I read the fic preceeding this one on her livejournal and thought I may as well go on and read this one too. It was very very good, I think so anyway, and I would like to thank the author. V well done  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on January 22, 2007, 12:43:34 pm
Thanks, insane-romantic, I'm glad you liked it!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on January 22, 2007, 02:35:31 pm
I want to see the show first too  :)

Mel, where did you download it from?

Found this on Dave Cullen:


http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QP3NH3CQ (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QP3NH3CQ)

Hope it's OK that I post this link here...
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on January 22, 2007, 02:44:08 pm
Found this on Dave Cullen:


http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QP3NH3CQ (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QP3NH3CQ)

Hope it's OK that I post this link here...

Dank je, Mel  :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on January 22, 2007, 02:54:57 pm
Here's a nice gay kiss from Torchwood.

I wish I'd watched the series now!  LOL



Now THAT'S what I call a passionate kiss!

Never saw that on Dr. Who... :laugh:
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on January 22, 2007, 02:57:52 pm
Now THAT'S what I call a passionate kiss!

Never saw that on Dr. Who... :laugh:

No...but he did kiss Dr Who (when Dr Who was Chris Eccleston).  I think Cpt Jack will kiss anyone!!!

John Barrowman, the actor who plays him, just got married (CP) the other week to his partner of 16 years. :)  They had a splash in OK!


Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on January 22, 2007, 02:59:56 pm
No...but he did kiss Dr Who (when Dr Who was Chris Eccleston).  I think Cpt Jack will kiss anyone!!!

 ;D So it seems, I don't understand what was going on in that scene though, why was Jack kissing the real Jack?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on January 22, 2007, 03:01:28 pm
;D So it seems, I don't understand what was going on in that scene though, why was Jack kissing the real Jack?



LOL...I've got absolutely no idea!!  I'll need to ask my husband!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on January 22, 2007, 03:02:00 pm
Now THAT'S what I call a passionate kiss!

Never saw that on Dr. Who... :laugh:

Hey! You're up to 975!  :D

Will it happen this week?

I think it just might.

I'll get your table ready for you over at the 1000 Posts Club!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on January 22, 2007, 03:08:30 pm
Hey! You're up to 975!  :D

Will it happen this week?

I think it just might.

I'll get your table ready for you over at the 1000 Posts Club!

977!

We're discussing a British TV series: Torchwood, wanna join in? Watch this clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYZ0QHYA-eQ
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYZ0QHYA-eQ)

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: one_of_one on January 22, 2007, 03:19:24 pm
OMG!  Look what I found!



Brokeback Torchwood   (does this count as bringing us back on topic.....?)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on January 22, 2007, 03:24:00 pm
OMG!  Look what I found!



Brokeback Torchwood   (does this count as bringing us back on topic.....?)

Yeah I saw that!  ;D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: littleguitar on January 22, 2007, 03:30:15 pm
man, I want to watch all these videos but I'm afraid they aren't work appropriate... and I don't have speakers on my computer here  :-\

I've never seen Torchwood or Cold Case, but now I want to  ::)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Bigheart on January 22, 2007, 05:23:22 pm
OMG!  Look what I found!



Brokeback Torchwood   (does this count as bringing us back on topic.....?)

I just watched it ..... hadn't heard the music in a loooong time.

Thanks H  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: RouxB on January 22, 2007, 06:16:21 pm
So, Shades of Grey...

 O0
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on January 23, 2007, 08:06:55 am
-COLD CASE SPOILERS-

OMG- I saw the episode of Cold Case and I am devastated! I was absolutely amazed by the acting in this, the guys put so much feeling into their roles, I hope we hear a lot more from them in the future. It has a lot of parallels to BBM. I loved it when Coop said to Jimmy "We are the lucky ones". I almost never cry at movies or TV series, but this episode hit me hard. Real hard. And really, it's not about the kiss, it's about the look on Coop and Jimmy's face right before that. Beautiful acting. I am so amazed that they were able to convey what these guys went through and what they felt in only 45 minutes of the episode.

I think I need to start a new thread for this, what do you guys think and where should I start it? Anything goes?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: MaineWriter on January 23, 2007, 09:39:17 am
I think I need to start a new thread for this, what do you guys think and where should I start it? Anything goes?

That's a good idea and yes, Anything Goes would be the right place.

Leslie
Moderator, Fanfic
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on January 23, 2007, 10:18:28 am
-COLD CASE SPOILERS-

OMG- I saw the episode of Cold Case and I am devastated! I was absolutely amazed by the acting in this, the guys put so much feeling into their roles, I hope we hear a lot more from them in the future. It has a lot of parallels to BBM. I loved it when Coop said to Jimmy "We are the lucky ones". I almost never cry at movies or TV series, but this episode hit me hard. Real hard. And really, it's not about the kiss, it's about the look on Coop and Jimmy's face right before that. Beautiful acting. I am so amazed that they were able to convey what these guys went through and what they felt in only 45 minutes of the episode.

I think I need to start a new thread for this, what do you guys think and where should I start it? Anything goes?
I completely agree!  It's amazing what they managed to do in a 45 minute episode.  And you are so right.  It's not the kiss. It's the looks on their faces just before.  Jimmy's face right before he kisses Coop about kills me.  And the final scene...  Guh.... :'(
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on January 23, 2007, 05:41:50 pm
Guys, I started a thread for Cold Case on Anything Goes:

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,7646.0.html

Meet me there!  ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: cathyinaz on February 17, 2007, 11:30:19 pm
Any news on a possible sequel to Shades of Grey? This story amazed me with it's gritty, honest, warts and all portrait of an AU/AU story. I was sad it ended and hoped that we would get some post-story updates on how the boys are doing.
 ;)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on February 19, 2007, 12:28:23 pm
Any news on a possible sequel to Shades of Grey? This story amazed me with it's gritty, honest, warts and all portrait of an AU/AU story. I was sad it ended and hoped that we would get some post-story updates on how the boys are doing.
 ;)

Amy would be the best person to answer that! She is working on her original novel right now, mostly doing rewrites and contacting agents I think.  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on February 20, 2007, 10:23:21 pm
Hi, guys!  Hope you are all doing well.  Still doing that endless re-write of my original novel.  The going is actually pretty slow lately b/c RL seems to have taken a front seat to writing.  But that's okay, it had been sorely neglected for awhile!  LOL.  I still think of SOG Jack and Ennis often.  I don't know about a sequel or a one-shot, but it's always a possibility.  I'll keep you posted!  Thanks for the interest!  Love, A
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on March 15, 2007, 11:23:26 am
Sorry guys, just bumping this thread to ask Amy what she has been up to! No news....

Sooooo Amy, what have you been up to? How are the rewrites going and is there any news on your original novel????

 :-*

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on March 17, 2007, 03:09:02 am
That's one novel I want autographed!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on March 17, 2007, 11:28:28 pm
Hi guys!  Sorry I've been MIA.  RL has just been insane.  You know I always wanted kids, but somehow I never really pictured the reality of dropping off at school, picking up from school, school projects, soccer practice, soccer games, birthday parties, laundry.... LOL.  It seems like it's all hit hard all at once.  I'm almost done with the re-write of my original novel, after dropping the ball on it for a good month.  I hope to have it squared away by the end of March.  How are you all doing?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: louisev on March 18, 2007, 12:07:45 am
Ah there you are.  So now that we have a "Creative Writing" forum are you going to share an early draft of your O.N with us?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on March 18, 2007, 07:35:10 pm
we have a creative writing forum???

[looks around baffled]: where??
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on March 18, 2007, 08:46:57 pm

we have a creative writing forum???

[looks around baffled]: where??

Here's a link to it...


http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/board,50.0.html (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/board,50.0.html)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: MaineWriter on March 20, 2007, 04:49:26 am
Yes, I would love to get a little bit more writing going in the forum. Please join in, all efforts are welcome....

Leslie
Moderator, Creative Writing and Fanfic
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on August 15, 2007, 01:08:48 pm
Oh the good old times... I was thinking of our weekly discussions of SOG today and thought I would bump this thread!

If you read this, Amy, how is your original novel doing? I hope everything is going well for you! I think we can safely say that there won't be a SOG sequel or other BBM fanfic from you?

Mel  :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: midwest-girl on August 15, 2007, 09:39:30 pm
Oh the good old times... I was thinking of our weekly discussions of SOG today and thought I would bump this thread!

If you read this, Amy, how is your original novel doing? I hope everything is going well for you! I think we can safely say that there won't be a SOG sequel or other BBM fanfic from you?

Mel  :-*

Hi, Mel!  How are you doing?  I just happened to pop in here today and saw this post.  I have to admit I've been a writing slacker of late.  I've had the kids home with me all summer and before that I was catching up on RL.  I did finish the re-write of my original novel, but haven't done a damn thing about trying to find an agent.  As for a sequel to Shades, I doubt that will happen.  So far I haven't had any really great ideas for a plot.  But don't count me out completely on some other BBM fic.  I do have an idea for a new story, it's simply a matter of finding the time and energy to begin it.  I'm not promising anything at this point, but hopefully when the kids return to school/preschool I'll be able to think about starting it.  I'll keep you posted and thanks for asking!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: coffeecat33 on August 15, 2007, 11:19:33 pm
I don't stop by BMost too often any more, but am here now and saw the post. I LOVED making the photos of SofG Jack and Ennis - there were loads of them. They are still in my photobucket account and it makes me smile every time I see them.

I think about you, Amy, and really wish you the best of luck getting published. Thanks for sharing all that you did with us.

 :-*
CC33 / Leslie K.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: brokebackjack on August 16, 2007, 05:29:32 am
You have no idea how much I look forward to ANY story you write. A sequel to SoG would be stellar, but anything at all....you are probably the finest writer in the world of  BBM fanfic...and considering how many superb writers there are that says a LOT
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on August 16, 2007, 06:36:08 am
Hi, Mel!  How are you doing?  I just happened to pop in here today and saw this post.  I have to admit I've been a writing slacker of late.  I've had the kids home with me all summer and before that I was catching up on RL.  I did finish the re-write of my original novel, but haven't done a damn thing about trying to find an agent.  As for a sequel to Shades, I doubt that will happen.  So far I haven't had any really great ideas for a plot.  But don't count me out completely on some other BBM fic.  I do have an idea for a new story, it's simply a matter of finding the time and energy to begin it.  I'm not promising anything at this point, but hopefully when the kids return to school/preschool I'll be able to think about starting it.  I'll keep you posted and thanks for asking!

Hey Amy! Yeah, having your kids around you can seriously undermine your ability to write! LOL! It's so good to hear that you do have a plot bunny and I hope you find the time, energy and creativity to start writing again!

Mel  :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on August 17, 2007, 04:37:19 pm
I've always been a huge fan of Midwest Girl's If I Asked.  I can't wait to get stuck into this one .... it looks really interesting!
 

You haven't read it yet??  :o :o :o :o

Don't read another word in this thread. Print the story out. Log off. Find a quiet place. Don't come back online until you've read the whole thing.

That's an order...  >:(  :)

Believe me, you will thank me!

 :-*
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on August 17, 2007, 04:47:09 pm
OMG!! I'm all in a fluster now ... I'll do it right away Mel!

Love Susie (http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/11/11_1_201.gif)



You are gonna find out you're a very lucky girl just because of the fact that you can read it one go, contrary to the way we had to wait a whole week (which is not much if you come to think of it, but with this story it felt like ages!) for each update. Just think of that every time you can turn the page and start reading the next chapter after each killer deadline! LOL!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on August 17, 2007, 04:50:45 pm
You know how some countess or other once upon a time said that she wished she could live her life over just so she could get to read "War and Peace" again for the first time?

There are a small number of books and fics I'd say that for.

And Shades is one of those fics.

So savour that first-time reading! You lucky thing, you!  :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on August 17, 2007, 04:52:37 pm
You know how some countess or other once upon a time said that she wished she could live her life over just so she could get to read "War and Peace" again for the first time?

There are a small number of books and fics I'd say that for.

And Shades is one of those fics.

So savour that first-time reading! You lucky thing, you!  :)


I know that feeling so well!  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on August 17, 2007, 04:54:26 pm
OMG!! I'm all in a fluster now ... I'll do it right away Mel!

Love Susie (http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/11/11_1_201.gif)



Susie, you gotta read this story! I'm totally serious! I don't like fanfic all that much, and Melissa finally convinced me to read it. I think I read 10 chapters in one day. I couldn't stop reading it.  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: mvansand76 on August 17, 2007, 04:57:13 pm
Susie, you gotta read this story! I'm totally serious! I don't like fanfic all that much, and Melissa finally convinced me to read it. I think I read 10 chapters in one day. I couldn't stop reading it.  :D

Yep! Just the fact that I still think about this story sometimes and then drag it up from the bottom of the fanfic thread barrel says enough, this story is a BBM fanfic classic. And to think I almost didn't start reading it because I thought the premise was silly!

LOL!
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Mikaela on August 17, 2007, 05:07:30 pm
This brings back good memories of coming home in the afternoon after job and training every Thursday during last autumn. And logging onto the net, leaving everything else till later, with toes curling and heart thumping in happy anticipation about a new Shades chapter.

I'm totally amazed about the imaginative writing, the tight rein on plot development - events past and present blending to make a whole - the characterizations, the beautifully created J&E relationship and the consistent high quality of the prose. And amazed not least about Amy's ability to keep all that going and keeping the writing and posting pace up during the run of the entire fic.

Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: David In Indy on August 17, 2007, 05:22:12 pm
OMG I can hardly contain myself!  I think I'm having heart palpitations ... you've all got me so excited now!  I can't wait to read it!   I've copied all 18 chapters onto a word document (more than 100 pages). 

I'm in the middle of reading something else, something very important to me, but it's next on my list.

Susie   (http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/11/11_1_201.gif)



Well, please let us know how you liked it, okay Susie? Amy is an amazing witer, as you already know. And her descriptions of gay men (what we do, how we feel, our emotions, everything) is totally accurate. It was an amazing story.  :D
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: retropian on June 18, 2009, 06:15:57 pm
I'd like to read this fic. I loved Midwest-girls other fic "If I Asked" and thought I'd give this a go. I never got around to it because I guess I was a little uptight about AU/AU. I've since read a few of those and liked them alot. Unfortunately her livejournal account is gone, so I was wondering and hoping someone here may have saved in in a pdf or something and could email it to me.

Thanks. Ian
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: retropian on June 22, 2009, 09:46:24 pm
Someone was kind enough to send me SOG, and I am sure glad they did! This is an amazingly well done well written story. I can't recommend it highly enough! I absolutely loved it, and I'll be rereading it soon I'm sure. I can see it as a movie easily.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Brown Eyes on September 10, 2009, 12:31:39 pm
Heya,
I was just browsing the fanfic section over at EJ and there's a lot of excitement in the SOG thread there about this story getting published!  Apparently, it will be published with the name "Shades of Gray" ("gray" with an "a" not an "e").  The author has posted over there about this a few times.

Very exciting! :)
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Monika on September 10, 2009, 12:39:15 pm
Heya,
I was just browsing the fanfic section over at EJ and there's a lot of excitment in the SOG thread there about this story getting published!  Apparently, it will be published with the name "Shades of Gray" ("gray" with an "a" not an "e").  The author has posted over there about this a few times.

Very exciting! :)

yay! Great news.


would be cool if either Zero at the Bones or Shades of Gray could be turned into a movie.
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: retropian on September 11, 2009, 06:39:48 pm
yay! Great news.


would be cool if either Zero at the Bones or Shades of Gray could be turned into a movie.

Spoilers

Yes! Too cool indeed. Both of these would make great films. Who to cast as the leads? In both stories they are in their mid-thirties, but the way they are written it seemed to me the Ennis character comes across as older, more experienced in the ways of the world, more cynical and emotionally shut down (that's our Eninis!) and the Jack character seems so much younger and naive. Someone once suggested Daniel Craig as Ennis, and I can see that in either of these stories. He'd be great as a G-Man or a Killer for hire. He can pull of that brooding intensity, it's his specialty. I can envision Brad Pitt in either roll as well, the buttoned down FBI agent, or nearly soulless killer(see Tyler Durden). I can't see who'd play Jack though. He's a Doctor in one story, but if he's made to be younger, maybe he'd be a med-student. Ennis strives to return Jacks life to normality so he can fulfill his dream of becoming a doctor. In the other story he's an expendable cog in a large drug smuggling operation and Ennis has to extract him from that and keep him alive to have a normal life. I just see the Jack character as being in his mid-twenties in either of these.  so the role should go to some young up and coming actor. But who?
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: MaineWriter on November 16, 2009, 07:33:40 pm
It looks like Shades of Gray is out and getting good reviews.

To buy the book (ebook and paperback):

http://www.dreamspinnerpress.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=167&products_id=1571

Two very good reviews:

http://www.rainbow-reviews.com/?p=1996

http://www.reviewsbyjessewave.com/?p=11205

L
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: Brown Eyes on November 17, 2009, 09:13:31 pm
Thanks for the info Leslie! :)
I'll definitely look into getting a copy.


It looks like Shades of Gray is out and getting good reviews.

To buy the book (ebook and paperback):

http://www.dreamspinnerpress.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=167&products_id=1571

Two very good reviews:

http://www.rainbow-reviews.com/?p=1996

http://www.reviewsbyjessewave.com/?p=11205

L
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: MaineWriter on November 17, 2009, 09:14:56 pm
Apparently people are loving this book...and you can say, "I knew it when..." LOL

L
Title: Re: Shades of Grey by Midwest-girl
Post by: retropian on November 17, 2009, 09:27:43 pm
It looks like Shades of Gray is out and getting good reviews.

To buy the book (ebook and paperback):

http://www.dreamspinnerpress.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=167&products_id=1571

Two very good reviews:

http://www.rainbow-reviews.com/?p=1996

http://www.reviewsbyjessewave.com/?p=11205

L

Too cool!