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It will take place very early here on the west side of the pond, but I'll definately get my ass up to watch it!
What about you? Are you going to watch it too? :)
(http://www.starsareblind.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/prince-william-kate-middleton-engagement-photos.jpg)
They are a very cute couple, aren't they? 8) 8)
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I will be travelling by train from Frankfurt to Paris but hopefully I will see reruns in my hotel in Paris. I did not get an invite >:(so decided to go to Paris and not London. London is on the itinerary for late May instead. :)
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My answer is "Probably not", even though I guess it will be at a convenient time for me.
Honestly, I'm not too much interested. But on the other side, I watched Diana and Charles' wedding many years ago (was more or less 'forced' to it, because my friend's foster-mother watched it and we were in the same room). I also watched bits and pieces of Diana's funeral. Her death was really a kind of "Kennedy moment" - you know, a certain point in time, a landmark that everybody would remember for their whole life.
So, it clearly is a big current event, and maybe I'll watch parts because of that. But my revolutionary heart says this wedding shouldn't be of any importance, the concept of monarchy is so outdated that everybody should boycott it.
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No. Living in a monarchy myself, I´m extremely tired of hearing about royalties.
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I said, "No." I would like to; I'll be especially interested to hear what music they use. But if it's broadcast live "over here," and I guess it will be, I'm guessing it will probably be while I'm getting ready for work/going to work/at work--and it isn't important enough to me to take vacation time to watch it. I imagine it will be rebroadcast, too, but I just don't know if I will have the time to watch it--unless there isn't anything else good on TV at the time. ;D
I suppose my principal reason for wanting to watch would be to "bookend," since I watched Wills' parents' wedding; I was in graduate school at the time.
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When is the wedding, and what time will it happen here?
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What wedding?
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When is the wedding, and what time will it happen here?
It's two weeks from today, Friday, April 29, but I have no idea what time it will be "over here." Probably some time in the morning; I remember Charles and Diana's wedding was broadcast "over here" in the morning.
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I remember getting up in the middle of the night back in July '81 to watch Charles and Di get married. Was a 15-year-old Anglophile, and my parents thought I was insane when they heard me turn on the TV at 3 am and plop myself down in front of it. Back in those ancient days, TV's were pieces of furniture that lived on the floor, ha-ha. I was entranced by the gallantry of all of it. But the monarchy is just not the same as it was back then. It's lost its magic. Seemed to disappear, at least for me, when Diana lost her life in '97.
So, no, I won't be watching.
Although I hope Diana will be...
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I remember getting up in the middle of the night back in July '81 to watch Charles and Di get married. Was a 15-year-old Anglophile, and my parents thought I was insane when they heard me turn on the TV at 3 am and plop myself down in front of it. Back in those ancient days, TV's were pieces of furniture that lived on the floor, ha-ha. I was entranced by the gallantry of all of it. But the monarchy is just not the same as it was back then. It's lost its magic. Seemed to disappear, at least for me, when Diana lost her life in '97.
So, no, I won't be watching.
Although I hope Diana will be...
Mine was a B&W portable! :laugh:
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When is the wedding, and what time will it happen here?
Meryl, if I remember correctly, MSNBC said they will start broadcasting the wedding at 6 am (Eastern). I'm sure we will start hearing the broadcast times for all the networks as the wedding draws closer. :)
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I remember getting up in the middle of the night back in July '81 to watch Charles and Di get married. Was a 15-year-old Anglophile, and my parents thought I was insane when they heard me turn on the TV at 3 am and plop myself down in front of it. Back in those ancient days, TV's were pieces of furniture that lived on the floor, ha-ha. I was entranced by the gallantry of all of it. But the monarchy is just not the same as it was back then. It's lost its magic. Seemed to disappear, at least for me, when Diana lost her life in '97.
So, no, I won't be watching.
Although I hope Diana will be...
I did the same thing Mandy. In fact my Grandma was visiting us at the time and she got up for it too. We watched it together. That was fun! I didn't even go to bed before Diana's funeral. We just stayed up very late and watched it.
I agree, the British Monarchy is changing. But it is still very fascinating to many Americans, including me. I love the Royal Family! 8) 8)
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I am also an ardent monarchist and did seriously think about going to London as I will be so close. However I realised accommodation would be at a premium and the crowds horrendous. I have a photo of William as my screensaver ::) It has been there for years so is a bit dated and he has a full head of hair :-)
He made a great impression when he visited Christchurch recently and then the areas where flooding had occurred in Australia. There are things a royal can do in times of national disaster that cannot be done by a politician. I do hope all goes well and he brings back the admiration gained by his grandmother. He is making a good start. I dread seeing Australia and/or New Zealand becoming republics.
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Nope, I won't be watching. Never did follow the royals.
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I too remember the wedding of Diana and Charles.....thinking what a beautiful fairy tale.....unfortunately having read since, about Charles and Camilla, and the fact that they were together the night before that wedding, when I see clips of their wedding now, I see Charles as a proper arsehole, and thats why it pains me to think that Camilla will probably be sitting where Diana should have been sitting at William's wedding. Dont they have any shame at all.
I believe the chair for the mother of the groom should be respectfully left vacant, and if its not I dont know if I want to watch the wedding.
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What wedding?
Oh, you mean this wedding!!
;) ;D ;D
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Oh, you mean this wedding!!
;) ;D ;D
(can't get it to load on the page)
Hey my friend posted this on fb earlier - very clever take off of that other wedding dance one that I love so much (with the Chris Bown Forever song)
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I put maybe.
I have been gigen the day off for the wedding and I have no plans at the moment.
More than likely I'll record it so I zip through all the rubbish build up bit and get to the - celebs and royals arriving and seeing what they are wearing plus Kate arriving.. fast forward through the wedding and get to the pomp and circumstance bit of them leaving and waving to crowds on the balcony!
There are very few street parties arranged in the UK compared to the last royal weddings...
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Yep. I'm not a follower of the royal family like a friend of mine is, but I do like a spectacle with a lot of tradition.
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Oh, you mean this wedding!!
;) ;D ;D
(can't get it to load on the page)
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kav0FEhtLug[/youtube]
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I believe the chair for the mother of the groom should be respectfully left vacant, and if its not I dont know if I want to watch the wedding.
Sue, I hadn't even considered the possibility of that tramp sitting in the mother-of-the-groom chair. Eek! That would be horrifying. I wonder if the British people have warmed to Camilla at all over the years. I certainly hope not. Maybe Kelda can chime in on that?
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I think they have warmed to her to some degree.. but to be honest I don't really care.
As for keeping a seat free.... I doubt they'll do that. At the end of the day while Wills would no doubt want his Mum there - she's not....So why diss Camilla who he is apprarently very fond of?
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I think they have warmed to her to some degree.. but to be honest I don't really care.
As for keeping a seat free.... I doubt they'll do that. At the end of the day while Wills would no doubt want his Mum there - she's not....So why diss Camilla who he is apprarently very fond of?
He may be fond of her but I'm sure he's thankful that she's not his mother, lol! Can you imagine what Charles and Camilla's kids would look like! Yikes!
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I think they have warmed to her to some degree.. but to be honest I don't really care.
As for keeping a seat free.... I doubt they'll do that. At the end of the day while Wills would no doubt want his Mum there - she's not....So why diss Camilla who he is apprarently very fond of?
Because she was one of the causes of his mother's misery, depression, suicide attempts and eating disorders? His father's selfishness being Diana's number one problem? Will has obviously made an attempt to keep peace in the family, but that doesn't mean he could/should treat his father and stepmother as if nothing was ever wrong and they're completely without blame.
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Because she was one of the causes of his mother's misery, depression, suicide attempts and eating disorders? His father's selfishness being Diana's number one problem? Will has obviously made an attempt to keep peace in the family, but that doesn't mean he could/should treat his father and stepmother as if nothing was ever wrong.
I have tried to stay out of this. The whole affair was very sad. But Charles was in love with Camilla long before he met Diana.They are soul mates. He was advised by Lord Mountbatten and probably others that Camilla would not be suitable as his bride (for some of the reasons stated here, the woman cannot help her looks). He was advised to find a good looking fashion plate which he did. The fact that they were completely incompatible was not considered. A hundred years ago it would have not been a problem. Kings married for dynastic reasons and had mistresses. Edward VII (son of Queen Victoria) was the last in England to do this. The Queens enjoyed the public position and tolerated the affairs.
Times have changed. Such conflicts caused the abdication of Edward VIII and later misery for Princess Margaret who gave up her love for duty.
Diana would not accept such a situation and now we can say Charles probably should not have married her.
Obviously Diana suffered most but she also made some bad decisions. William seems to have accepted Camilla (he was a legal witness at their wedding). I am glad Charles and Camilla seem to have found some happiness now. I am pleased that William has apparently been able to find true love in a person who also has glamour and looks and so pleases the population (and fashion mags).
Are we not here because of a film which shows the misery that results when society pressures people to marry unwisely. I am so thankful that I realised in time and broke an engagement to a sweet girl. However even that caused deep sadness for her at the time and I was seen as the worst in the world by both families. Thankfully it was not of any interest beyond my immediate circle.
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Brian, if you truly believe Charles and Camilla were meant for each other, but he was marrying a fashion-plate to please the monarchy, what gives you reason to believe that William is not simply repeating his own father's mistakes? IMHO, Wills doesn't look convincingly happy in the pre-wedding photos, and with all of their ups-and-downs over the years, I'm more erring on the side that he's marrying Kate because he's under pressure, of a certain age, and it's expected of him as the next heir in line. Sound familiar?
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Brian, if you truly believe Charles and Camilla were meant for each other, but he was marrying a fashion-plate to please the monarchy, what gives you reason to believe that William is not simply repeating his own father's mistakes?
Well, for one thing, Kate Middleton is no Diana Spencer, and thank God for that. She's had more experience of the world and I suspect she has a much better idea what she's getting herself into than Diana did.
IMHO, Wills doesn't look convincingly happy in the pre-wedding photos.
Shrugs. Perhaps. He seemed fine to me in a joint interview I saw.
Sue, I hadn't even considered the possibility of that tramp sitting in the mother-of-the-groom chair. Eek! That would be horrifying.
Jeezus H.! You're a hard case! :laugh:
He may be fond of her but I'm sure he's thankful that she's not his mother, lol! Can you imagine what Charles and Camilla's kids would look like! Yikes!
Heh. Wills isn't turning out to be a prize as it is. The older her gets, the more he looks like his father and the less he looks like his mother. He's losing his hair and he's got teeth like a horse.
I think people are very unfair to Camilla. Last I saw of her, in photos from when their car got attacked, I thought she looked pretty darn good for "a woman of a certain age," even as upset as she was. Lord knows, there are plenty of women her age who look a helluva lot worse!
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In other news, the betting is hot and heavy over what color hat the Queen will wear to the wedding. ::) ;D
http://www.royalweddinglive.com/royal-wedding-live-wagers-queen%E2%80%99s-hat-is-the-hot-bet.html
My guess would be a nice spring green.
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I think they have warmed to her to some degree.. but to be honest I don't really care.
As for keeping a seat free.... I doubt they'll do that. At the end of the day while Wills would no doubt want his Mum there - she's not....So why diss Camilla who he is apprarently very fond of?
I wish they would though. It would be a wonderful dedication to Diana. :-\
I agree with you Kelda, William seems very fond of her. But Camilla isn't his Mother. Step-Mother, yes. So I suppose she has a right to sit in it. Doesn't she? But it really would be a nice dedication to Diana if they left it empty.
I'm surprised so many people will not be watching the wedding! I thought the results would be the other way around! lol
Boy, I'm going to watch it! I've been waiting for this for YEARS!
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In other news, the betting is hot and heavy over what color hat the Queen will wear to the wedding. ::) ;D
http://www.royalweddinglive.com/royal-wedding-live-wagers-queen%E2%80%99s-hat-is-the-hot-bet.html
My guess would be a nice spring green.
I'm guessing she'll wear a pale blue hat. Or a lliliac colored one! A soft purple, maybe. Something spring colored. Spring green would be nice too and I can see her choosing that color.
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Heh. Wills isn't turning out to be a prize as it is. The older her gets, the more he looks like his father and the less he looks like his mother. He's losing his hair and he's got teeth like a horse.
Jeff!!! :laugh:
How dare you!!! :laugh:
I think William is BEEEEEAUTIFUL!!! I always have. I think he's still extremely sexy and cute. I'd love to know where Brian found that William screensaver. I'd gladly put that up on my computer. lol
Harry is pretty cute too. But I have quite a thang for Wills! And I can still see quite a bit of his Mother in him!
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Just for you David ;D But it is a bit dated.
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g218/brianr44/williamandlamb.jpg)
Enjoy
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He may be fond of her but I'm sure he's thankful that she's not his mother, lol! Can you imagine what Charles and Camilla's kids would look like! Yikes!
Gil, you don't HAVE to imagine--
here they are in the (shudder) flesh:
Here are Diana's two children on the left, and-- (ugh) are Camilla's two children on the right.
(http://static.bbc.co.uk/history/img/ic/640/images/resources/events/prince_charles_and_camilla_parker_bowles_wedding.jpg)
I mean REALLY.
I don't want to be cruel, but--
Is it even a contest?
:P ::) :laugh:
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Just for you David ;D But it is a bit dated.
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g218/brianr44/williamandlamb.jpg)
Enjoy
Thanks Brian!!!
It really doesn't get any cuter than that, does it? 8) 8)
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Jeff!!! :laugh:
How dare you!!! :laugh:
I think William is BEEEEEAUTIFUL!!! I always have. I think he's still extremely sexy and cute. I'd love to know where Brian found that William screensaver. I'd gladly put that up on my computer. lol
Harry is pretty cute too. But I have quite a thang for Wills! And I can still see quite a bit of his Mother in him!
:laugh:
Get over it, David, and look at him objectively.
He's got a long, thin, Mountbatten face, like his paternal grandfather, and prominent teeth. And he's most assuredly started to lose his hair.
Harry's really got their mother's looks. :)
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Gil, you don't HAVE to imagine--
here they are in the (shudder) flesh:
Here are Diana's two children on the left, and-- (ugh) are Camilla's two children on the right.
(http://static.bbc.co.uk/history/img/ic/640/images/resources/events/prince_charles_and_camilla_parker_bowles_wedding.jpg)
I mean REALLY.
I don't want to be cruel, but--
Is it even a contest?
:P ::) :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh:
you mean who has the greatest WHITE smile?
I think I gonna need to wear sunglasses...
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kav0FEhtLug[/youtube]
Thanks Sonja and Gil.
Wow, now that's a wedding worth to see! Great video. :laugh: 8) :laugh:
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Because she was one of the causes of his mother's misery, depression, suicide attempts and eating disorders? His father's selfishness being Diana's number one problem? Will has obviously made an attempt to keep peace in the family, but that doesn't mean he could/should treat his father and stepmother as if nothing was ever wrong and they're completely without blame.
As I have said they apparently have a good relationship - he has seen past that and loves her as part of the family so why diss her now? On a special day for him, it is what makes him happy not what the public would expect from him/ want him to do.
At the end of the day we don't know the full story - aint nobodys business but theirs...
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I wish they would though. It would be a wonderful dedication to Diana. :-\
I agree with you Kelda, William seems very fond of her. But Camilla isn't his Mother. Step-Mother, yes. So I suppose she has a right to sit in it. Doesn't she? But it really would be a nice dedication to Diana if they left it empty.
I'm surprised so many people will not be watching the wedding! I thought the results would be the other way around! lol
Boy, I'm going to watch it! I've been waiting for this for YEARS!
What official seat is there for Mothers though?? There is no particular seat just close family near the front.. Camilla's close family so she'll be near the front..
Brian, if you truly believe Charles and Camilla were meant for each other, but he was marrying a fashion-plate to please the monarchy, what gives you reason to believe that William is not simply repeating his own father's mistakes? IMHO, Wills doesn't look convincingly happy in the pre-wedding photos, and with all of their ups-and-downs over the years, I'm more erring on the side that he's marrying Kate because he's under pressure, of a certain age, and it's expected of him as the next heir in line. Sound familiar?
As for whether Will is being forced to marry by the royal family and doesn't really want to - I doubt it.. he's marrying a commoner after all. And she's much more savvy than the young Dianna was.. for one things she's 9 years older (20 versus 29), has a degree from a respectable university and has had a real job.
Also Wills is 28. Charles was 33 when he married. Thats plenty of time to find a proper CORGI! (That's basically a posh 'Yah' type with a title...)
As a side note, I'm just watching the London Marathon.. there is two guys running round dressed as kate and wills. The guy as kate has a full wedding dress and veil and a dark wig plus kate paper face mask, and the guy as Wills has the military navy uniform and the wills paper mask!! :laugh: :laugh:
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kav0FEhtLug[/youtube]
Thanks, Gil.
It's a great video! :laugh:
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As I have said they apparently have a good relationship - he has seen past that and loves her as part of the family so why diss her now? On a special day for him, it is what makes him happy not what the public would expect from him/ want him to do.
At the end of the day we don't know the full story - aint nobodys business but theirs...
"Apparently" is the operative word. For many years Charles and Diana were "apparently" a happy couple.
As for Charles loving Camilla so much...he apparently didn't love her enough to give up the throne for her and was more than willing to cheat on a young woman who DID love him and looked up to him for his own pleasure. Charles is an A#1 selfish dick and in the end, Diana is out of the way, and he can relax into his happy life and pretend it didn't come at a cost.
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"Apparently" is the operative word. For many years Charles and Diana were "apparently" a happy couple.
As for Charles loving Camilla so much...he apparently didn't love her enough to give up the throne for her and was more than willing to cheat on a young woman who DID love him and looked up to him for his own pleasure. Charles is an A#1 selfish dick and in the end, Diana is out of the way, and he can relax into his happy life and pretend it didn't come at a cost.
I find this comment disgusting and beneath contempt. I could say Diana married for the position as well. There was good and bad in her.
What would you say if I said Ennis was an A#1 selfish d.. for the way he treated Alma. There are plenty of people who think that of gay men who married for social reasons and did not really love their wives.
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"Apparently" is the operative word. For many years Charles and Diana were "apparently" a happy couple.
As for Charles loving Camilla so much...he apparently didn't love her enough to give up the throne for her and was more than willing to cheat on a young woman who DID love him and looked up to him for his own pleasure. Charles is an A#1 selfish dick and in the end, Diana is out of the way, and he can relax into his happy life and pretend it didn't come at a cost.
Again, I'd just say, on a special day for him, it is about what makes him happy not what the public would expect from him/ want him to do.
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I find this comment disgusting and beneath contempt. I could say Diana married for the position as well. There was good and bad in her.
Really? He was 38 and already deeply in his affair with Camilla - a married woman. She was a virginal 19 year old. I'd say Charles outweighed her by a long shot in life experience and Diana was marrying the man she loved. If she just married him for the position, I daresay she would still be married to him and still alive, because she didn't love the guy in the first place. The fact that she fell apart emotionally tells me a lot about her feelings about all this.
What would you say if I said Ennis was an A#1 selfish d.. for the way he treated Alma. There are plenty of people who think that of gay men who married for social reasons and did not really love their wives.
:laugh: Nothing, I already think that.
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I probably will watch it, even though it is on very early in our time zone. I
watched the wedding of his parents, and remember how beautiful she was, but
I must be the only person in the world that thought that the dress was awful.
It was too too much for her. It was all wrinkled when she got out of the
car, and it was wearing her. She wasn't wearing it. My god it had twenty lbs of
damned ruffles on the neck. I hated it. I will probably get lots of boos for this,
but I can take it. I think Kate being older will make better choices. Diana was
so young she was herded by her husbands grandmother I think..seems I read
that somewhere....sorry, JMO
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I probably will watch it, even though it is on very early in our time zone. I
watched the wedding of his parents, and remember how beautiful she was, but
I must be the only person in the world that thought that the dress was awful.
It was too too much for her. It was all wrinkled when she got out of the
car, and it was wearing her. She wasn't wearing it. My god it had twenty lbs of
damned ruffles on the neck. I hated it. I will probably get lots of boos for this,
but I can take it. I think Kate being older will make better choices. Diana was
so young she was herded by her husbands grandmother I think..seems I read
that somewhere....sorry, JMO
Naw, I agree. The dress was way too much. But think of the venue. She had to have something sufficiently ... big, shall we say? ... in order not to be upstaged by the decor. In a cathedral, you need a cathedral train, IMO.
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I probably will watch it, even though it is on very early in our time zone. I
watched the wedding of his parents, and remember how beautiful she was, but
I must be the only person in the world that thought that the dress was awful.
It was too too much for her. It was all wrinkled when she got out of the
car, and it was wearing her. She wasn't wearing it. My god it had twenty lbs of
damned ruffles on the neck. I hated it. I will probably get lots of boos for this,
but I can take it. I think Kate being older will make better choices. Diana was
so young she was herded by her husbands grandmother I think..seems I read
that somewhere....sorry, JMO
I don't like the dress either but then I wasn't even born when they had their wedding so I guess fashion tastes have changed! I don't like most of the old 80's and 90's wedding dresses!!
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My daughter's wedding dress had to be custom made because she is a modest young lady and couldn't find any dresses that weren't strapless or sleeveless. Her dress was long sleeved silk and we also had to modify the pattern so the neckline wouldn't be so deeply plunging.
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I don't like the dress either but then I wasn't even born when they had their wedding so I guess fashion tastes have changed! I don't like most of the old 80's and 90's wedding dresses!!
You weren't even born then, Kelda? Good God, why do I feel ancient all of a sudden???
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I don't like the dress either but then I wasn't even born when they had their wedding so I guess fashion tastes have changed! I don't like most of the old 80's and 90's wedding dresses!!
Well what a wallop that was.....talk about feeling ancient... ::)
I remember (back in those olden days) when she got out of the car, that I was disappointed with the dress, mainly because it looked all crumpled and far too big for that little girl wearing it. Diana was way too old fashioned in her dress style in the beginning, or maybe she dressed to suit the regal position more so than what she really wanted. She really showed them when she matured a bit, and made her own mark on society and the royal family.
As far as all the bed hopping that goes on in the royal family, IMO I know they are only human, I guess it just peeves me how they show no humility about it, that it is all ok and they have nothing to be guilty about because they are ROYALS. Even the husband of the mistress still bows to the future king, and the kids stand there having photos taken with the adulterers. Something just doesnt seem right about all that. Its all seems so very medieval.
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I probably will watch it, even though it is on very early in our time zone. I
watched the wedding of his parents, and remember how beautiful she was, but
I must be the only person in the world that thought that the dress was awful.
It was too too much for her. It was all wrinkled when she got out of the
car, and it was wearing her. She wasn't wearing it. My god it had twenty lbs of
damned ruffles on the neck. I hated it. I will probably get lots of boos for this,
but I can take it. I think Kate being older will make better choices. Diana was
so young she was herded by her husbands grandmother I think..seems I read
that somewhere....sorry, JMO
Worst dress EVER, the WORST. She looked as though she was a child being dragged through a giant laundry basket. The Emanuels? Yuck!
(http://lorien.me/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/diana1.jpg)
(http://fliptrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/1290189627-47.jpg)
MUCH later, after Diana had the two children, and got a bit older herself--then she became the real fashion icon.
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.luxist.com/media/2007/07/dianaauction.jpg)
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Thanks Brian!!!
It really doesn't get any cuter than that, does it? 8) 8)
Than that lamb? Of course not. ;D
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Naw, I agree. The dress was way too much. But think of the venue. She had to have something sufficiently ... big, shall we say? ... in order not to be upstaged by the decor. In a cathedral, you need a cathedral train, IMO.
With that train she did rather look like a full-rigged ship sailing down the aisle of St. Paul's. ;D
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With that train she did rather look like a full-rigged ship sailing down the aisle of St. Paul's. ;D
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
See? She was ample competition for the cathedral.
But I can't imagine anything else.
I was thinking since Kate is so modern, she would wear something like Carolyn Bessette did in her marriage to JFK, Jr but then the surroundings, pomp and circumstance would completely overwhelm her.
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My daughter's wedding dress had to be custom made because she is a modest young lady and couldn't find any dresses that weren't strapless or sleeveless. Her dress was long sleeved silk and we also had to modify the pattern so the neckline wouldn't be so deeply plunging.
I'm sure the dress was very pretty. I hope to see a picture of it some day.
Meanwhile, I'd like to know what idiot designer came up with the notion of a strapless and sleeveless wedding gown. Especially in virginal white? ::)
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I'm sure the dress was very pretty. I hope to see a picture of it some day.
Meanwhile, I'd like to know what idiot designer came up with the notion of a strapless and sleeveless wedding gown. Especially in virginal white? ::)
Time has marched on, Jeff. White means your first wedding...not that you're a virgin. ;D
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See? She was ample competition for the cathedral.
;D
But I can't imagine anything else.
I might joke about Diana's gown, but I did think it was quaintly old-fashioned and I rather liked it. The sleeves were too voluminous, though.
I was thinking since Kate is so modern, she would wear something like Carolyn Bessette did in her marriage to JFK, Jr and then the surroundings, pomp and circumstance would completely overwhelm her.
It's a daytime Church of England wedding, so I think it's a pretty good bet that Kate's shoulders will be covered for the ceremony. Not only is she marrying an heir to the throne, she's also marrying a presumed future Supreme Governor of the Church of England, so she can't look too "tarty."
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Time has marched on, Jeff. White means your first wedding...not that you're a virgin. ;D
I didn't say it meant the bride was a virgin.
Good luck finding one of those, these days.
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That picture published here of Diana in her wedding dress seems to have been bleached.
Her wedding gown was no where near that white, in fact it was not white at all, it was an IVORY colour.
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You weren't even born then, Kelda? Good God, why do I feel ancient all of a sudden???
Well what a wallop that was.....talk about feeling ancient... ::)
:laugh: :laugh: Sorry! I'm the same age as Kate Middelton. I was born in December 81 so 5 months after the wedding!
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The big sleeves really influences dresses after that so I'm told.
My big cousin got married in 93 and had huge puffy sleeves so that trend after Dian lasted at least another 12 years!
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I'm sure the dress was very pretty. I hope to see a picture of it some day.
Meanwhile, I'd like to know what idiot designer came up with the notion of a strapless and sleeveless wedding gown. Especially in virginal white? ::)
I may be crazy for putting up a photo of the dress my daughter and I made against Diana's and Kate's but there's a mother for you! Here it is!
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Royal Wedding Feud: Where to Seat Earl Spencer
April 17, 2011, 1:54 PM EST
Entertainment Tonight.
In the years following the tragic death of Princess Diana, time has yet to heal the emotional wounds inflicted by her untimely passing, and some of those feelings may be interfering with Prince William's nuptials.
According to The Daily Telegraph, concern has risen over where to seat Princess Diana's brother, Earl Spencer, at the wedding, since he and Prince Charles may not be on friendly terms.
A courtier told the British newspaper: "It is a delicate matter because the Prince of Wales, in particular, while he has always been civil to the earl in public, still has ringing in his ears the profoundly painful eulogy that he delivered in the Abbey at the funeral of his sister, Diana, Princess of Wales. The feeling is that the two men should not be made too aware of each other on the day. Charles Spencer is, however, a sensitive man. Let us just say that he has his own ideas, too, about where he should sit. Prince William has, after all, Spencer blood in his veins."
If the Queen has anything to say about it, Hugo Vickers, author of Behind Closed Doors, predicts that the earl will sit in the "fifth or sixth row from the front, behind the members of the royal families from other parts of the world."
See what happens when Prince William and Kate Middleton say "I do" on April 29 at Westminster Abbey. Keep checking back to ETonline for more details.
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In the years following the tragic death of Princess Diana, time has yet to heal the emotional wounds inflicted by her untimely passing, and some of those feelings may be interfering with Prince William's nuptials.
Well, this may be the understatement of the day! Those Brits are certainly well known for their understatements!
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I may be crazy for putting up a photo of the dress my daughter and I made against Diana's and Kate's but there's a mother for you! Here it is!
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Very pretty! Looks simple and in good taste. :)
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Royal Wedding Feud: Where to Seat Earl Spencer
April 17, 2011, 1:54 PM EST
Entertainment Tonight.
In the years following the tragic death of Princess Diana, time has yet to heal the emotional wounds inflicted by her untimely passing, and some of those feelings may be interfering with Prince William's nuptials.
According to The Daily Telegraph, concern has risen over where to seat Princess Diana's brother, Earl Spencer, at the wedding, since he and Prince Charles may not be on friendly terms.
A courtier told the British newspaper: "It is a delicate matter because the Prince of Wales, in particular, while he has always been civil to the earl in public, still has ringing in his ears the profoundly painful eulogy that he delivered in the Abbey at the funeral of his sister, Diana, Princess of Wales. The feeling is that the two men should not be made too aware of each other on the day. Charles Spencer is, however, a sensitive man. Let us just say that he has his own ideas, too, about where he should sit. Prince William has, after all, Spencer blood in his veins."
If the Queen has anything to say about it, Hugo Vickers, author of Behind Closed Doors, predicts that the earl will sit in the "fifth or sixth row from the front, behind the members of the royal families from other parts of the world."
See what happens when Prince William and Kate Middleton say "I do" on April 29 at Westminster Abbey. Keep checking back to ETonline for more details.
Family! Jeez.
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Royal Wedding Feud: Where to Seat Earl Spencer
April 17, 2011, 1:54 PM EST
Entertainment Tonight.
In the years following the tragic death of Princess Diana, time has yet to heal the emotional wounds inflicted by her untimely passing, and some of those feelings may be interfering with Prince William's nuptials.
According to The Daily Telegraph, concern has risen over where to seat Princess Diana's brother, Earl Spencer, at the wedding, since he and Prince Charles may not be on friendly terms.
A courtier told the British newspaper: "It is a delicate matter because the Prince of Wales, in particular, while he has always been civil to the earl in public, still has ringing in his ears the profoundly painful eulogy that he delivered in the Abbey at the funeral of his sister, Diana, Princess of Wales. The feeling is that the two men should not be made too aware of each other on the day. Charles Spencer is, however, a sensitive man. Let us just say that he has his own ideas, too, about where he should sit. Prince William has, after all, Spencer blood in his veins."
If the Queen has anything to say about it, Hugo Vickers, author of Behind Closed Doors, predicts that the earl will sit in the "fifth or sixth row from the front, behind the members of the royal families from other parts of the world."
See what happens when Prince William and Kate Middleton say "I do" on April 29 at Westminster Abbey. Keep checking back to ETonline for more details.
Starts at 1:24.
Real digs at 2:54 and 6:45,
7:21 is one of the harshest,
but 8:03 and etc.--Woah.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VUy-wBwBvw[/youtube]
Charles Spencer is something
of a sh!t, but--what a tribute.
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Thanks for that tape, its been a long time since I heard that speech of Earl Spencer, such a moving and honest speech.
The applause at the end is breathtaking, because it started outside by the public mourners who lined the streets, and then found its way into the church, not a usual occurence for applause at a royal funeral.
The more you read about the royal family, with its snobbery class distinctions, the more you have to wonder what the purpose of it all is, and yet, even though we doubt its necessity, even curse it, its hard not to be inquisitive about it, and want to learn more, and know more about what they are doing.
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Thanks for that tape, its been a long time since I heard that speech of Earl Spencer, such a moving and honest speech.
The applause at the end is breathtaking, because it started outside by the public mourners who lined the streets, and then found its way into the church, not a usual occurence for applause at a royal funeral.
The more you read about the royal family, with its snobbery class distinctions, the more you have to wonder what the purpose of it all is, and yet, even though we doubt its necessity, even curse it, its hard not to be inquisitive about it, and want to learn more, and know more about what they are doing.
Yeah, I remember his eulogy as well. He was pretty pissed off at the royal family at the time, believing they were responsible for much of Diana's distress which caused her to turn so self-destructive. Is he still upset? No doubt. I don't wonder about the royal family. As far as I'm concerned, they serve a very useful purpose of historical value. They're maintaining centuries old traditions. I think it's wonderful.
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:laugh: :laugh: Sorry! I'm the same age as Kate Middelton. I was born in December 81 so 5 months after the wedding!
:o :o
Good Lord girl! You're just a BABY!!!
I was born in September 1962. So what does that make me? 19 years older than you? That means I'm old enough to be your Daddy!! :o :laugh: :laugh:
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I didn't realize you were that young Kelda! 8)
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;D
I might joke about Diana's gown, but I did think it was quaintly old-fashioned and I rather liked it. The sleeves were too voluminous, though.
I liked it too, Jeff. It seems we are in the minority here though, huh?
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:o :o
Good Lord girl! You're just a BABY!!!
I was born in September 1962. So what does that make me? 19 years older than you? That means I'm old enough to be your Daddy!! :o :laugh: :laugh:
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I didn't realize you were that young Kelda! 8)
heh, thanks David! You'd have been a good Daddy to me I'm sure!
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"There, mostly, the similarities end."
“I really need a gin and tonic.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/19/world/europe/19wedding.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
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In This Fairy Tale,
Not One, but Two Queens in Waiting
By JOHN F. BURNS
Published: April 18, 2011
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Commemorative playing cards depicting the royal family at the Museum of Brands, Packaging and
Advertising in London.
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Prince William, center, with Camilla and Prince Charles.
LONDON — When 1,900 invited guests take their coveted places in Westminster Abbey next week for the wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton, one of the most uneasy seats in the 13th-century Gothic church may be the one occupied by Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, the longtime lover of Prince Charles, and since her marriage to the heir to the throne in 2005, the stepmother to William, Charles’s older son.
One of the most compelling themes of the April 29 wedding will be Britain’s odd-couple pair of “queens-in-waiting,” Ms. Middleton and Camilla. Though more than 30 years apart in age, both have come to their marriages as what are known in Britain as commoners, and stand, on their husbands’ ascent to the throne — Camilla first, and later Kate — to take their places as the highest-placed women in the land.
There, mostly, the similarities end.
Kate, glamorous and young — 29, five months older than Prince William — is seen by many in Britain, along with her future husband, as the potential savior of a monarchy whose luster has been deeply tarnished in the past 30 years.
For all the public acclaim for Queen Elizabeth II, who turns 85 this week and celebrates her 60th anniversary as monarch next year, the story of the other members of the royal family has been one of serial divorces, personal indiscretions, extravagance at taxpayers’ expense and suspicious financial dealings that have made lurid copy for Britain’s tabloid press.
Camilla, once cast by the tabloids as the most hated woman in the country for her role in dooming Prince Charles’s marriage to Diana, Princess of Wales, has gone some distance toward redeeming herself in recent years, to judge by polls that show sharply reduced levels of personal antipathy toward her.
She has been embraced by Diana’s two sons, William and Harry, who have said publicly that they love her, not least for the happiness she had brought their father.
The sense of her having achieved insider status in the family, at least with the younger generation, was enhanced when she was photographed this year emerging from a tête-à-tête lunch with Kate in a London restaurant, where she was overheard amid peals of laughter urging the bride-to-be to follow royal tradition — and Diana’s precedent — by wearing a jeweled tiara at the wedding, something Ms. Middleton apparently thought was too fusty for her taste.
But the process of rehabilitation appears to have advanced nowhere near enough — at least not yet — for Camilla, 63, to overcome the widespread opposition polls have shown to her ever being formally proclaimed queen if, and when, Charles, 62, becomes king.
For years, the polls have shown 50 to 60 percent of those surveyed in favor of skipping a generation in the succession, relegating Charles and Camilla to a leisured country retirement and jumping straight to William and Kate while they are still relatively young.
Partly, the polls reflect a concern that Charles may be too old to become king — in his 70s, perhaps even his 80s — if his mother lives as long as her mother, Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother, who died at the age of 101 in 2002. Already, he is seen as a fogy, with his passion for double-breasted suits on occasions that cry out for something more casual, and an awkward personal manner that can incline to the pompous and patronizing.
But the problem is not Charles’s alone. The polls that show a majority favoring his stepping aside in William’s favor after Queen Elizabeth dies have captured only anemic levels of support — 14 percent in a Harris poll last November — for Camilla’s becoming queen even if Charles does succeed his mother.
Against this background — and the hints of a possible constitutional crisis that it carries — the wedding has emerged partly as a story of reconciliation, a stage for the royal family to showcase how far they have progressed in healing the wounds of the past.
What more striking demonstration of that could there be than the sight of Camilla seated in the abbey only a few places from the queen, who is said to have described her at the height of the turmoil over Charles and Diana as “that wicked woman”?
Friends of Camilla’s interviewed for this article say the public resistance is deeply unfair to a woman who has put barely a foot wrong since marrying Charles.
From the start, they say, she and Charles understood that winning public acceptance would be a lengthy process — “the pursuit of a gradual acquiescence,” as one friend put it. One acknowledgment of that came with Camilla taking her titles, Duchess of Cornwall in England and Duchess of Rothesay in Scotland, from Charles’s lesser entitlements, instead of Princess of Wales, the normal title for the wife of the next in line to the throne.
Another was Buckingham Palace’s announcement on the occasion of the couple’s marriage in 2005 that Camilla would take the title of princess consort, not queen, when Charles takes the throne.
Friends say that one of Camilla’s strengths has been the stoicism with which she has borne the wounding barbs thrown at her by an unfriendly press which, like much of the public, remains wedded to an iconic image of Diana despite some of the unflattering revelations that have emerged about her since her death in a Paris car crash in 1997.
The newspaper The Observer once described Camilla as “an older woman with no dress sense and bird’s nest hair,” while other newspaper critics have said she “packs the stylistic punch of a Yorkshire pudding,” and have described her variously as an “old boiler,” “old trout,” “hatchet face” and “frump.”
Her resilience has been leavened with self-deprecating humor. She has made fun of Diana’s embittered nickname for her, answering the telephone at her country home west of London, “Rottweiler here!” She has never disguised her fondness for a drink, though she gave up a 30-cigarette-a-day smoking habit at the insistence of Charles. After her first, long-delayed meeting with Prince William, in 1998, she is said to have turned to a friend in relief, saying, “I really need a gin and tonic.”
Friends note, too, that while she has a reputation for holding strong and often unfashionable views, and an impatience with pomposity or pretension, she has been unusually successful in this generation of royals in not bleeding those views into the public domain.
Above all, friends say, she has resisted the temptation to offer a public riposte or even the mildest self-defense against her detractors, as Charles and Diana did by confiding in biographers and television interviewers as their marriage disintegrated.
In a country that holds a special contempt for whingers — those inclined to incessant complaint, a shortcoming many have discerned in Prince Charles — she has won praise for what one of her biographers, Rebecca Tyrrel, describes as an attitude of “You just bloody well get on with it.”
That view finds wide support. “She’s done a lot in a quiet way,” said William Shawcross, an author and journalist who was a childhood friend of Camilla’s in the rolling hills of West Sussex. “She has grown into her role in a steady and wise manner.”
In practice, the potential situations that favor Charles’s giving way to his son, or taking the throne as king without Camilla as his queen, seem likely to collide with political and constitutional reality.
For one thing, the royal family has an established aversion to the idea of abdication. King Edward VIII’s decision to quit the throne in 1936 to marry Wallis Simpson remains a grim shadow in the royal memory, especially for Queen Elizabeth, who is said to remain haunted by the trauma her father, King George VI, suffered when he was forced to take the throne.
In an interview for this article, Richard Drayton, a professor of history at King’s College, London, said that bypassing Charles would face forbidding obstacles, including “an act of Parliament, and probably a decision by Charles himself to abdicate.”
Constitutional experts have said that nothing in Britain’s constitutional tradition or common law provides for the wife of the king’s not becoming queen, and that Camilla would, in practice, be Britain’s queen, whatever title she carried.
How much Camilla cares is a matter of debate. Some of her friends believe her concern is mostly for Charles, who has always said that he sees it as his destiny to become king, and has worked restlessly to that end, with a schedule of public duties that far outstrip any other royal family member, including his mother. Others say Camilla herself is not as come-what-may about the issue as she has sometimes suggested to friends, and would like one day to be back in the abbey, seated beside Charles, as crowns are placed on their heads.
Twice in recent months, the couple has hinted that they remain hopeful of turning the tide of public favor their way on the issue of Camilla’s becoming queen. In an interview in November with Brian Williams of NBC, Charles answered hopefully when asked whether Camilla would ever be the queen. “You know, I mean, we’ll see,” he replied, as if ambushed by the question. “That could be.”
In February, it was Camilla’s turn. “Are you going to be queen one day?” a little girl asked her on a visit to a children’s center in the Wiltshire town of Chippenham. “You never know,” Camilla replied, smiling.
Ravi Somaiya contributed reporting.
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The more you read about the royal family, with its snobbery class distinctions, the more you have to wonder what the purpose of it all is, and yet, even though we doubt its necessity, even curse it, its hard not to be inquisitive about it, and want to learn more, and know more about what they are doing.
Heh, even for some of us Yanks. :-\
Though from time to time it's a little like a car crash--you know you shouldn't look, and you don't want to look, but you can't help it. :-\
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In This Fairy Tale,
Not One, but Two Queens in Waiting
By JOHN F. BURNS
Published: April 18, 2011
Thanks for posting this, John. :)
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Yes, thanks, that was an enlightening article, John. My personal hopes are that Charles abdicates the throne when his mother passes, and it moves on to Wills, and now Kate, to continue the line. I think that Diana was a huge positive, emotional influence on the way her sons turned out, as opposed to the remote public stoicism of Charles. I think William will make a great King someday.
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I think that Diana was a huge positive, emotional influence on the way her sons turned out, as opposed to the remote public stoicism of Charles. I think William will make a great King someday.
I agree, hunnerd percent. :)
Though I really doubt Charles will abdicate, unless there are extenuating circumstances, such as if he develops some sort of incapacitating health problem. Like the article said, the family is still laboring under the shadow of Edward VIII. And anyway, the Old Lady is hanging on so long, Charles probably won't have many years on the throne anyway. :-\
And I guess I must say that in a way I really do admire Camilla. Doubtless she had a pretty good idea of the shitstorm she was in for when she married Charles. I can well imagine that we over here don't see even a fraction of what the British public sees, but from what I have seen of her, it appears to me that she practically defines "grace under pressure." I know I couldn't take what she's had to take, so I have to admire her for that.
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I'm a republican in the opposing-monarchy-on-general-principle meaning of that word, but I wouldn't miss the wedding for anything. It's HUGE entertainment, the biggest show in many a year. (Waaaay bigger than the very lovely wedding of Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden last year.)
All the grand pomp and circumstance, the cheering crowds, the ancient customs, the wedding dress REVEAL!! ;D, the commenters falling over themselves with purple language, the silly interviews of all and sundry, the various guests and their clothes and *hats*, the carriage and the family of the groom (what *is* Camilla wearing?!? Etc etc) and not to forget the OMG!Romance and that inevitable kiss on the castle balcony - yep. It'll be great fun watching it and snarking about it (and feeling a bit sappy.... they're a good-looking couple after all).
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Anyone seen the t-mobile spoof of the wedding? It looks hysterical.
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I'm a republican in the opposing-monarchy-on-general-principle meaning of that word, but I wouldn't miss the wedding for anything. It's HUGE entertainment, the biggest show in many a year. (Waaaay bigger than the very lovely wedding of Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden last year.)
Absolutely! If it isn't anything else, it's going to be a ripping big show! ;D
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Anyone seen the t-mobile spoof of the wedding? It looks hysterical.
(Posted near the beginning of the thread.)
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I'm a republican in the opposing-monarchy-on-general-principle meaning of that word, but I wouldn't miss the wedding for anything. It's HUGE entertainment, the biggest show in many a year. (Waaaay bigger than the very lovely wedding of Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden last year.)
All the grand pomp and circumstance, the cheering crowds, the ancient customs, the wedding dress REVEAL!! ;D, the commenters falling over themselves with purple language, the silly interviews of all and sundry, the various guests and their clothes and *hats*, the carriage and the family of the groom (what *is* Camilla wearing?!? Etc etc) and not to forget the OMG!Romance and that inevitable kiss on the castle balcony - yep. It'll be great fun watching it and snarking about it (and feeling a bit sappy.... they're a good-looking couple after all).
Spot on! High class entertainment and I'll have a wonderful day with my mummy, the TV, a bottle of sparkling and some nice chocolate - exactly like 'our' wedding last summer.
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Absolutely! If it isn't anything else, it's going to be a ripping big show! ;D
I'll fast frwrd thru the actual wedding to enjoy those bits you described Mikela!!
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I'll fast frwrd thru the actual wedding to enjoy those bits you described Mikela!!
I wonder whether we'll get to see the household cavalry in their tall, shiny boots and obscenely tight breeches? 8)
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Sounds like the seating chart is fair and respectful to all the families. Wonder why Diana's mother doesn't appear to be attending? Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought she was still alive.
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The guest list and seating plan for Prince William's wedding to Kate Middleton have been revealed.
Close family members are to sit nearest to the royal couple as they take their vows on Friday at Westminster Abbey.
The Queen, accompanied by the Duke of Edinburgh, Prince Charles, the Duchess of Cornwall and Prince Harry will sit in the front row.
Celebrity guests include Sir Elton John, David and Victoria Beckham and Rowan Atkinson.
Miss Middleton's mother Carole will sit directly opposite the Queen, next to her husband Michael and her son James.
The remaining places on the Middletons' front row are yet to be confirmed.
Westminster Abbey is essentially two churches, said the BBC's Royal correspondent Nicholas Witchell.
Those sitting near the high altar will have the best view of the marriage while guests in the nave would see very little, he said.
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Democracy may not be an obvious subject on the minds of David Cameron and Nick Clegg, as they sit in their top hat and tails in the ancient abbey. But it might arise when they glance around at their fellow guests.
Close by will be the senior representatives of two countries which have recently clamped down on pro-democracy protests - the Crown Prince of Bahrain and the King of Swaziland.
They are two of the 46 foreign royals who've been invited. There'll be six kings and five queens - all have titles, not all still possess thrones.
There'll also be reminders of the price of the pursuit of democracy. The sister of one soldier killed in Iraq; the widow of another who died in Afghanistan; and a Lance Corporal with burns to much of his body will be in the congregation.
The wedding will see 2,000 guests pack into the 1,000-year-old Abbey.
Among those attending will be Olympic swimming star Ian Thorpe, who recently announced that he was coming out of retirement to compete in London in 2012.
Prince William met the sportsman when he visited Australia last year and he is now a supporter of the swimmer's charity, Thorpe's Fountain for Youth.
Other sports personalities attending will be former England rugby coach Sir Clive Woodward, Sir Trevor Brooking, a Football Association colleague of the Prince who is the body's president, and Welsh rugby player Gareth Thomas.
Service personnel also feature heavily in the guest list.
Squadron Leader Paul Bolton, from RAF Valley in Anglesey, North Wales, where the prince is based as an RAF search and rescue helicopter pilot has been invited.
Prince William has invited members of the families of two close friends and colleagues from Sandhurst who died on active service.
Holly Dyer, the sister of 2nd Lieutenant Joanna Dyer, who was killed by a bomb in Iraq in 2007, and Susie Roberts, the widow of William's Sandhurst platoon commander Major Alexis Roberts, killed four years ago in Afghanistan, will both be in the congregation.
Next to the Middletons will be members of the Spencer family including Lady Sarah McCorquodale, the sister of William's mother, Diana, Princess of Wales. Lady Anne Wake-Walker, Diana's aunt; Lord Fellowes and Lady Jane Fellowes, Diana's brother-in-law and sister; and Earl Spencer will be seated alongside her.
Foreign dignitaries and diplomats will sit in the South Transept which is directly to the side.
Forty-six foreign royals will be in attendance, including the Prince of Bahrain, whose country was recently criticised by Foreign Secretary William Hague for its human rights record.
Prime Minister David Cameron and other cabinet members and Ed Miliband, Labour leader will sit in the south side of the Abbey behind the choir.
Seated behind the choir will be faith representatives and friends of the bride and groom.
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No no Diana's Mum is looong dead. She died in 2004.
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Thanks Gil for posting this! What fun! I especially liked the William and Harry impersonators and that woman who played Charles' wife was spot on! It looked like it was filmed in the actual abbey too!!
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No no Diana's Mum is looong dead. She died in 2004.
Oopsy, my bad. That would certainly explain her absence.
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Were the Obamas invited?
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Were the Obamas invited?
My information could be out of date or just plain wrong, but I would swear that some time ago I heard that they were not invited, and the reason given was that this is not a "state wedding," though what the heck the difference is sure escapes me. ???
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The Obamas are definitely not invited, and the same goes for other heads of state. Crowned heads are invited, though.
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The Obamas are definitely not invited, and the same goes for other heads of state. Crowned heads are invited, though.
Maybe they're doing it this way so they didn't have to invite Silvio Berlusconi. ... 8)
Can you imagine having him at your wedding? :laugh:
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The Obamas are definitely not invited, and the same goes for other heads of state.
And that´s a good thing, I think. Democratically elected leaders shouldn´t encourage the madness. O0
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And that´s a good thing, I think. Democratically elected leaders shouldn´t encourage the madness. O0
I dunno. Surely that "madness" is good for the British economy. Think of all the makers, sellers, and buyers of all those hideous wedding commemorative tchotchkes. ;D
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My information could be out of date or just plain wrong, but I would swear that some time ago I heard that they were not invited, and the reason given was that this is not a "state wedding," though what the heck the difference is sure escapes me. ???
Not a state wedding, but they declared the day a holiday. Who else gets that done for their wedding day?
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Not a state wedding, but they declared the day a holiday. Who else gets that done for their wedding day?
I'm not complaining!!
I think the reason its not a state wedding is because the actual wedding itself is not being paid for by the country. The Queen Charles and the Middeltons have contributed to it from their own funds. However, the policing etc has been paid by the country.
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I see that, according to Lauren Collins in the May 2 New Yorker, HRH is known to Miss Middleton as "Big Willy." 8)
I'll bet! :laugh:
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http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/42801360/ns/today-today_people/
Friday:
Schedule of events for the royal wedding
Wedding procession route
Kate Middleton will spend the night before the wedding at the Goring Hotel, while Prince William will stay at
Clarence House, his father's official London residence. After the ceremony at Westminster Abbey, the newlyweds
will ride in a horse-drawn carriage to Buckingham Palace, where the reception will be held. The couple will appear
on the palace balcony with their families and have their first public kiss.
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10:10 a.m. local time (5:10 a.m. EDT)
Prince William and his brother and best man, Prince Harry, leave Clarence House for Westminster Abbey, the site of the wedding.
10:38 a.m. local time (5:38 a.m. EDT)
The groom's father, Prince Charles, and his wife, Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, leave Clarence House for Westminster Abbey.
10:40 a.m. local time (5:40 a.m. EDT)
Queen Elizabeth II and her husband, Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh, leave Buckingham Palace for Westminster Abbey -
where they were married in 1947.
10:51 a.m. local time (5:51 a.m. EDT)
Kate Middleton, accompanied by her father, Michael Middleton, leaves the Goring Hotel for Westminster Abbey. The Goring is a
century-old, family-owned hotel blocks from Buckingham Palace.
11:00 a.m. local time (6:00 a.m. EDT)
The wedding ceremony begins at Westminster Abbey, the site of every English monarch's coronation since William the Conqueror
in 1066. Fifteen previous royal weddings have taken place in Westminster; the last was Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson in 1986.
Seating arrangements
About 1,900 guests have been invited to Westminster Abbey for the wedding ceremony.
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1. British royal family, foreign royal families
2. Middleton family and friends, Spencer family, Will and Kate's friends
3. Diplomatic corps, foreign dignitaries, Middleton family friends
4. Will and Kate's friends
5. Representatives of the Church of England and other faiths, Will and Kate's friends
6. Members of the Cabinet and parliament, senior military officials
7. Guests of the Prince of Wales, general congregation
8. Representatives of the Church of England and other faiths, general congregation
12:15 p.m. local time (7:15 a.m. EDT)
The newly-married couple leaves Westminster at the head of a procession of five horse-drawn carriages to Buckingham Palace.
William and Kate will ride in a 1902 State Landau coach that is frequently used during state visits and for royal weddings.
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1:25 p.m. local time (8:25 a.m. EDT)
William and Kate engage in their first public kiss on the balcony of Buckingham Palace. The couples' families join them on the balcony
to greet well-wishers. Afterward, the queen hosts a wedding reception at the palace attended by about 650 people. That's followed
by a dinner for 300 hosted by Prince Charles.
1.30 p.m. local time (8:30 a.m. EDT)
While the newlyweds and their families greet well-wishers from the balcony, Royal Air Force planes will fly over Buckingham Palace.
Taking part will be a Lancaster, a Spitfire and a Hurricane aircraft from the RAF's Battle of Britain Memorial Flight, followed by two
Tornado and two Typhoon jets.
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Pictured: the royal family - including Queen Elizabeth II, center, and Prince William, to her right - watch as Royal Air Force planes
fly over Buckingham Palace on June 12, 2010.
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11:00 a.m. local time (6:00 a.m. EDT)
The wedding ceremony begins at Westminster Abbey, the site of every English monarch's coronation since William the Conqueror
in 1066. Fifteen previous royal weddings have taken place in Westminster; the last was Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson in 1986.
O ... K. ... That's the time I usually get up. Maybe I'll get up a little earlier tomorrow. :-\
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Sounds like the seating chart is fair and respectful to all the families. Wonder why Diana's mother doesn't appear to be attending? Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought she was still alive.
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Frances Shand Kydd
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Frances Ruth Burke Roche Shand Kydd (née Roche, formerly Viscountess Althorp) (20 January 1936 – 3 June 2004) was the first wife of John Spencer, 8th Earl Spencer and the mother of Diana, Princess of Wales. After two failed marriages and the deaths of two children, she devoted her later years to Roman Catholic charity work.
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She died on 3 June 2004 following a long illness that included Parkinson's disease and brain cancer, aged 68.
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Her funeral at the Roman Catholic Cathedral in Oban on 10 June was attended by many of her children and grandchildren, including Princes William (who gave a reading) and Harry. Their father, her former son-in-law, Prince Charles, did not attend because he was en route to another funeral—going to Washington to lead the British delegation at the state funeral of former U.S. President Ronald Reagan the following day.
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Kate's Mystery Designer — Is It Sarah?
From WWD.COM (http://WWD.COM)
April 28, 2011
Mystery solved? Not quite yet. Web sites began burning up Thursday with images of a purported Sarah Burton checking into The Goring Hotel, where Kate Middleton and her family are staying. If accurate, the spotting would seem to confirm that Alexander McQueen’s Burton — despite numerous denials — has designed Middleton’s much anticipated gown for Friday’s royal nuptials.
Another possibility is that Burton could have designed Middleton’s dress for the evening gala Friday night for 600 people at Buckingham Palace.
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The Goring Hotel: Fit for a queen
The 101-year-old hotel where Kate Middleton is staying the night before
her wedding to Prince William is steeped in royal history. Take a peek inside
the luxury hotel.
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The front of the Goring Hotel
The Goring Hotel is a last-of-its-kind hotel. It's been in the same family's hands since O.R. Goring opened it in 1910.
Kate is spending the night before the royal nuptials at the iconic hotel.
Kate Middleton and her dad Michael will leave the Goring precisely at 10:51 a.m. for Westminster Abbey on April 29.
With an estimated 2 billion viewers expected to tune in to the royal wedding online and on TV, cameras will be trained
on them the moment they leave.
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The Goring's private gardens
Kate is reportedly staying in a top-floor suite that has been recently renovated. The suite overlooks the hotel's
private garden, has two bedrooms and bathrooms, a drawing room and a dining room with a baby grand piano.
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The dining room at the Goring
The hotel, which is located an easy walk from Buckingham Palace, is a favorite among royals. Queen Mary
enjoyed afternoon tea at the hotel, as did the queen mother. Other famous visitors include Sarah Ferguson,
Duchess of York, and members of the royal families of Denmark, Greece and Lichtenstein.
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The Goring's bar and terrace
The Goring has long served as an overspill facility for Buckingham Palace, accommodating royal visitors when
the palace is full. When the hotel launched in 1910, its big selling point was that each room had its own bathroom,
unlike the palace next door.
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Bedrooms at the Goring
When the Goring opened in 1910, rooms were priced at 37 pence. Now rooms start at £410 ($675 at current exchange rates),
according to rates published in January. The royal wedding is expected to raise the global profile of this family-run luxury hotel.
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The Goring Hotel
By Judith Reitman
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I am on the Titanic. It has begun to snow, but there is no iceberg in sight. In the Empire-inspired red lacquer bar, I am seated deeply in a handmade leather arm chair. I feel only the warm undercurrent of good manners, good will and a sway toward a staff whose attentiveness borders on telepathy. Champagne and cognac, which costs a King's ransom, flow freely. A server appears with exquisite canapés. Guests speak quietly in the Queen's English. Their ease suggests they are at home among friends on a wintry evening.
It is my first evening in an inner sanctum favored by Royals, Prime Ministers, Ambassadors and international Presidents who covet a gentility that suspends time. The bar's elegant maitre de shakes my hand 'good night' as I prepare to return to my room, a distance marked by shining marble floors and carpets that smell of lemon. I turn the key. The interior lights have been dimmed to the setting "Cozy” by the housekeeper, my bed has been turned down and a box of Sir Hans Sloane of London chocolates placed on the nebulous cloud that is my comforter. The ivory ruffled curtains have been drawn. In the dim light the silk walls are a muted deep salmon, a color selected from the archives of the Gainsborough Silk collection of the British Embassy. Graham Copeman, the cherub-faced General Manager, had shown me another "Silk Room,” one done in royal blue, the same color as the interior of the Queen's carriage, he pointed out, "so the next time you are in Her carriage you will recognize this color." He smiles.
Every Prime Minister since Winston Churchill has been a guest at the Goring. The Royal Family has entertained in its private suites. The Goring has, in fact, acted as a sort of annex to Buckingham Palace since it has always supplied personal luxury en plus. As the King of Norway put it in the late 1930s, “I prefer to stay at the Goring since at the Palace I do not have a private bathroom.” The Goring was the first grand hotel in London to install a bathroom in each bedroom and use central heating. It is the last of the great Victorian hotels, King Edward having died months after its opening.
And yes, this is where I am installed, not on that ill-fated luxury liner reminiscent in style and grandeur but on terra firma that has been in the Goring family for four generations. My room, priced at 499.00 GBP, is best described as delectable. It faces the formal garden, the largest private garden in London apart from the Queen's, “but we allow Her that, given who She is,'” the Front of House Manager told me. In the morning, when I open the curtains, I see a whimsical sculpture of a dancer coated with frost. Word has it that she dances if you have imbued sufficient quantities of champagne.
This year, London’s only family-owned five star hotel is celebrating its Centennial under its dashing CEO Jeremy Goring. The hotel prides itself on the longevity of its good name and its staff whose ethos is most evidently one of personalized service. One of the doormen has been at his post for 43 years. Most of the senior staff have spent at least 20 years at the hotel. Copeman says, “We are like a family and we treat our guests like family." One frequent visitor (neither a Royal nor a President) told me he had been gone for a year, but on his return the doorman welcomed him back by name, and his “usual Campari and soda" was waiting for him at the bar.
Life changes but not at The Goring. Certainly there has been the recent refurbishing orchestrated by Lord David Linley, the Queen's nephew, with the artistry of Tim Gosling, affectionately known as The Goose, but renovations have largely conformed to original photos, particularly in what Copeman calls “the most beloved public room, the Sitting Room.” Gilt now overlays the domed ceiling and newly handwoven carpets have an antique patina. Carved moldings have been restored. The most dramatic change is in several bedrooms designed by Nina Campbell, with free-standing bathtubs and sophisticated hand painted wallpaper. Lord Linley's remodeling of the Dining Room has added a sense of spaciousness but the eye goes directly to the free form Swarovski crystal chandeliers in dazzling blue.
During its Centennial, head chef Derek Quelch (formerly of Claridge's) is featuring on the menu a dish favored during one of the “100 Years of Glorious Goring Grub;” to wit: Mrs Goring's Pig's Fry Salad with poached Duck Egg, served during The War Years. Inventive, yes. Haute cuisine, that too. Last year the Reunion des Gastronomes voted the Goring's menu, the “Menu of the Year.
Don't eat a large lunch if you plan to take Afternoon Tea, which won The Tea Award of Excellence by the British Tea Guild Council. Three tiers of delicacies commence with an amuse-bouche (perhaps lobster in cream) , then it's on to classic scones and thick clotted cream, finger sandwiches, cream pastries and the Goring's signature "Not a Trifle," a sponge cake drenched in liqueur. Tea is taken in the amber-swagged atrium, where one might spot a knighted actress or the wife of a Prime Minister. The Goring won't disclose names; it guards its guest book as it does its reputation.
Leaving is difficult. An heiress faced the same dilemma in the 1930s. One night was just not enough. She decided to stay on, for 30 more years. As time passed her girth broadened and it took a trio of maids to extricate her from her bathtub. The day she was carried out on a stretcher she paused, with her last breath, to thank each member of the Goring staff for their kindness.
The Goring Hotel
Beeston Place, London
Telephone: +44 (0)20 7396 9000
Booking: [email protected]
Website: www.TheGoring.com (http://www.TheGoring.com)
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"You have to bring your utility bill and a passport or drivers license to get in. You need your utilities bill because that has the address on it the invitations were sent to."
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Dispatch From London:
Crowds Become Unbearable
As Royal Wedding Guests Strategize
for the Big Day
By: Sally Holmes
4/28/11 at 5:40 PM
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A real live royal wedding ticket!
Photo: Sally Holmes
The streets around Westminster Abbey are officially an unwalkable sea of red, blue, and white. Police have put up barriers around the campers on the sidewalks to create makeshift walkways and are out in full force to keep people moving in one direction (half of them seem to be us Americans — you're welcome, London). Cars and buses are still inching along at the same pace as the pedestrians; while most are filled with frustrated drivers, we did spot one neon yellow vintage Rolls Royce decked out in British flags and a convertible filled with a family all holding flags and waving.
Meanwhile, security around Westminster is quite noticeably more intense. Police are stationed everywhere to make sure people know where they can and cannot walk. We found one dude in a pub just a block away who seemed shell-shocked by the crowd: "I work just around the corner and this street is normally completely empty at this time of night," he said.
We also found a couple who were invited to the wedding! And will actually be inside Westminster Abbey tomorrow, breathing the same air as Kate and William, craning to see The Dress in person around all the hats. Security is very tight, the wife explained: "You have to bring your utility bill and a passport or drivers license to get in. You need your utilities bill because that has the address on it the invitations were sent to." She showed us the personalized ticket guests must also present and the separate invitation to the VVIP dinner that will take place at Buckingham Palace in the evening.
After the wedding and daytime reception their game plan is to dash home to change into their evening gear for the nighttime party at the palace (she's also heading to her hairdresser to undo the effects of seven hours of wearing a hat). It's unclear how they'll deal with the traffic between the afternoon and nighttime receptions. After the ceremony at Westminster Abbey they won't have to worry about it since guests will get shuttled from there to the palace in glamorous buses. But unless guests going to all the day's parties pack their sparkly nighttime things and change at the palace, they'll all have to figure out how to get home, change, and get back in a sea of excited — and by then, probably drunk — royal obsessives.
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Frances Shand Kydd
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She looked like Maggie Smith.
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[and brain cancer, aged 68.
She looks like she's had a hard life.
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Thanks for posting the schedule, John! :)
Comes in handily, I forwarded the info to my daughter.
Guess what? It looks like I will be watching bits and pieces after all. :laugh:
My oldest daughter wants to see the whole damn thing. All major TV networks broadcast it today - and nothing else from 9am to 3PM! :o ::) ::) ::)
So, while in my living room there will be the whole 6 hour broadcast flickering on the TV, I will go on with my normal life, but will check in now and then. It's 10am here and daughter is already glued to the TV. ;D
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Thanks for posting the schedule, John! :)
Comes in handily, I forwarded the info to my daughter.
Guess what? It looks like I will be watching bits and pieces after all. :laugh:
My oldest daughter wants to see the whole damn thing. All major TV networks broadcast it today - and nothing else from 9am to 3PM! :o ::) ::) ::)
So, while in my living room there will be the whole 6 hour broadcast flickering on the TV, I will go on with my normal life, but will check in now and then. It's 10am here and daughter is already glued to the TV. ;D
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David and Victoria! David and Samantha! Elton and David!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/theroyalchannel
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it seems I may be a royalist after all... I'm currently watching the Royal Wedding build up on E! It's really quite exciting!! And David Beckham just arrived looking well.... swoon!
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Those two Wales boys!!! Gorgeous! Except--Harry is wearing the drawing room curtains!
(Awwww! They're both nervous!! Sweet!)
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So odd to see people along the Mall cheering--four Trailways buses!!
:laugh: :laugh:
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Harry is currently chating to Di's Brother who is sitting in the second row... :)
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Harry is currently chating to Di's Brother who is sitting in the second row... :)
Hmmmm--I didn't see that on the Royal Channel, Kelda--maybe I should change to the Republican (anti-Monarchist, that is) feed!
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I've got it on! The Queen is currently on her way. :)
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There she is--HMQ, that is--
Yellow??
:-\ ::)
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FYI ... today's Google Doodle
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The Wedding of Prince William of Wales and Catherine Middleton
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BOOOO!!! BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! HISSSSSSSS!!!!!!
(Camilla, of course!)
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The E! Coverage is good... they have a good and well know royal reporter doing all the royal gossip as well as a real bit brit presenter Dermot o learly, Julianna whats her name form E! and a fashion correspondent from E!
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The E! Coverage is good... they have a good and well know royal reporter doing all the royal gossip as well as a real bit brit presenter Dermot o learly, Julianna whats her name form E! and a fashion correspondent from E!
Kelda, I'm only watching the Royal Feed--when SHE comes, tell me who made the DRESS!!!
Oh, Gawd, the fanfare for the Yellow Dress-- ::)
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Feed from the entry at the Goring Hotel--this is IT!!!!
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Awwwww!! The Flower Girls!
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(Pretty good scheduling, by the way--they are pulling up to the Abbey exactly at 6:00AM!)
LOVE the bells!!
Don't know that I love the Dress, not that I hate it--but why is Pippa wearing white??
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I think the both look really pretty - simple but stunning!
And apprently wills said to kate you look beautoful when she walked up beside him.. awwww!
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and apparentl she did her own makeup...
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They are married!! YAY!!!
Now they are riding away in the carriage!
I'm glad I watched it. I stayed up to watch Charles and Diana's wedding. And I stayed up to watch Diana's funeral.
3 for 3. I guess I'm a true Anglophile! lol
That was really pretty. I love all the pagentry. England certainly puts on wonderful weddings! 8)
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There she is--HMQ, that is--
Yellow??
:-\ ::)
I bet that woman, whoever she is, in the congregation in the nave of the abbey who was also in yellow is going to hear about it! :laugh:
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David Beckham just arrived looking well.... swoon!
Becks was there? :o Thud! ;D
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Don't know that I love the Dress, not that I hate it--but why is Pippa wearing white??
>:( The Dress was perfect: Simple and elegant.
Pippa's dress was way too "clingy" for a church wedding.
And I guess somebody forgot to tell Beatrix and Eugenie it was a wedding, not auditions for the circus.
Jesus H.! The headgear--I don't think they qualify as hats--those two were wearing!
Anybody else catch sight of the woman in the big, black hat the size of a wagon wheel? ;D
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BOOOO!!! BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! HISSSSSSSS!!!!!!
(Camilla, of course!)
If you're going to boo and hiss anybody, then boo and hiss that big lout Camilla married. ...
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Interesting (to me, anyway). ...
Guide Me, O Thou Great Redeemer, the first hymn sung at the wedding this morning--was also the last hymn sung at Diana's funeral.
(I checked. I still have the program for the funeral as published in the Philadelphia Inquirer.)
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Well, I've just spent the last four hours in front of the TV.....and it was wonderful.
William and Harry.....looking so grand in their uniforms, couldn't help but remember those two little boys who followed their mother's coffin many years ago, and what handsome men they have grown into...Diana would have been so proud of them today.
Kate......looked so beautiful. Her dress was exquisite without being flamboyant or show-offish. She is so dignified and no doubt in love with her prince, as he is with her.
The service was easy to follow, and understand. The choir was outstanding, but I do wonder why there are no girls in it, in fact the whole church faculty is a real boys club. I was really impressed with Kate's brother's reading, considering he is not used to all this public speaking and appearance thing, he spoke perfectly, and really did his family proud.
Her sister looked amazing, like something out of a fashion magazine, and the way she gathered the little ones like a mother hen and her chicks, she was a true bridesmaid. And the littlies looked gorgeous. In fact the Middleton family are all very attractive, and they kept their own identity amongst all the pomp and ceremony.
The precison and timing of the event, was unbelievable, and it made this huge event actually look easy, as they say, the Brits do this thing better than anyone else. The way the police led the crowd down the Mall to Buck House in such an orderly and uneventful passage was like watching a movie with special effects. Moving nearly a million people like they did, was unbelievable, and the crowd stayed very orderly and happy.
The balcony appearance and the TWO kisses, were worth waiting for, they do look so much in love.
Except for Camilla being there it was perfect, and I enjoyed every minute of it.
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Well, I got up to use the bathroom around 5:00 am and couldn't resist turning on the TV, so guess who hasn't had much sleep today? ;D
Beautiful is the word. I love how the British celebrate their grand tradition. There's no country in the world that can equal it. Some commentator said they wondered how Americans could understand what royalty meant to the British because we have none. Nonsense! The British royalty belong to us, too. So what if that pesky Constitution said otherwise? ;)
And I guess somebody forgot to tell Beatrix and Eugenie it was a wedding, not auditions for the circus.
Jesus H.! The headgear--I don't think they qualify as hats--those two were wearing!
Anybody else catch sight of the woman in the big, black hat the size of a wagon wheel? ;D
I never saw so many oddments perched on women's foreheads! That's entertainment. ;D I was kind of partial to Camilla's big gossamer donut of a hat. 8)
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Interesting (to me, anyway). ...
Guide Me, O Thou Great Redeemer, the first hymn sung at the wedding this morning--was also the last hymn sung at Diana's funeral.
(I checked. I still have the program for the funeral as published in the Philadelphia Inquirer.)
That was probably no accident Jeff.....a subtle way to bring the memory of Diana into the service from the beginning.
And yes, Beatrix and Eugenie obviously got tips from their mother on what to wear.
And Victoria Beckham looked as though it was not cool to look a little bit happy and excited about the event.
And yes, I think some of those hats, were the sattelite dishes to beam the wedding all over the world. I never did see the face of the woman who was with Diana's brother, she looked like she was incognito.
And I couldn't help but wonder, what Charles, Camilla, Andrew and Anne were thinking, when the words "let no man put asunder" were mentioned in the wedding vows. Seems to be a mockery to the family that is head of the Church of England.
But all that aside.....today was about William and Kate, young and in love who will show em all how to do it right.
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Yes, I liked the two kisses. The seoncd one was much less formal and fun!! Youc oudl tell thr first one they wer elikle - right lets do it and get the anticipation over!!
As I was watching E! they were saying in the US they don't do hats or fascinators for weddings.. thats really normal for UK weddings! perhaps not quite as big As Eugene and Beatrice mind you!
E! also noted that this was a hymn sung at Diana's funeral so I think that must have been announced before hand.. presumably *just* beforehand... a bit like the details of the dress being announced *just* after she left the hotel!
And for John.. here you go!
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There was a million people around the route and half a million in the mall apparently according to London police..
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Oh, and Gracy Kelly-esque?
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That was probably no accident Jeff.....a subtle way to bring the memory of Diana into the service from the beginning.
Oh, I'm sure it was no accident. I'm just curious whether it was done as a nod to Diana, or perhaps the hymn is just a family favorite (it's one of my favorites, too). I'm inclined to think it was the deliberate nod. And it does fascinate me that the hymn that ended Diana's funeral was the first one sung at the wedding of her eldest son.
And yes, Beatrix and Eugenie obviously got tips from their mother on what to wear.
:laugh: :-X
And I couldn't help but wonder, what Charles, Camilla, Andrew and Anne were thinking, when the words "let no man put asunder" were mentioned in the wedding vows. Seems to be a mockery to the family that is head of the Church of England.
I sort of thought that, too, especially when the archbishop bound the hands of the bride and groom. :-\
But all that aside.....today was about William and Kate, young and in love who will show 'em all how to do it right.
I think so, too. :)
Tell you what, I had an "aha" kind of moment after the service was over and they were riding back to the palace in the carriage. I looked up at the TV just as the camera caught Wills with his head tilted slightly forward, but his eyes looking upward and to the side, and an almost shy smile on his face, and I thought, "Just like his mother."
The choir was outstanding, but I do wonder why there are no girls in it, in fact the whole church faculty is a real boys club.
That's the Church of England for you. It isn't that long that the CofE has had women clergy (the American Episcopal Church has had them for 40-odd years now), and they're still in conflict over accepting women as bishops. I imagine all-boy choirs are just a tradition they're hanging on to.
I'd never heard Rowan Williams, the archbishop of Canterbury, speak before, so I was glad to hear him preach the sermon. One commentator for the US Today show--a Brit, no less--called Williams the bishop of London! :laugh:
Ya gotta give Anglicans credit for it: They give good weddings and good funerals! :laugh:
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And for John.. here you go!
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Oh, dear. That getup makes Becks look like a refugee from a road company of My Fair Lady. :-\
Anybody know what the medal is that he's wearing? Is it "for real"?
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Oh well. After not having any intention to watch it, to my plans of checking in, I ended up watching the whole weddding (who would've thought? ::)).
I didn't watch the building up, but my daughter called me when the goom arrived and we watched together from there. We had so much fun together!
I loved the wedding gown, and I liked the Queen's bright yellow color.
But boy, William will soon be bald! :o
My daughter and I both commented what an unattractive man he is, hair or no hair. (Apologies to David. As always, beauty is in the eye of the beholder).
We'd rather take the redheaded riding instructor's son( ;)), who always seems to have a mischief twinkle in his eyes. He seems to have a good sense of humor.
I never understood why people are so hateful towards Camilla. And I think she's not only not ugly, but even quite an attractive woman.
Anyway, it was a fun way to spend a Friday and I wish all the best to the newlyweds. May they be a happier match than Charles and Diana were.
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I never saw so many oddments perched on women's foreheads! That's entertainment. ;D I was kind of partial to Camilla's big gossamer donut of a hat. 8)
Yeah, we loved all the headdresses, too.
Someone already mentioned a satellite dish, that was the exact same thing we said. :laugh:
Someone else also mentioned Beckham's wife (Victoria?) and her misery expression. I think I've never seen a pic of her laughing. Maybe she's too cool for it, she appears very arrogant. ::) :P
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Someone else also mentioned Beckham's wife (Victoria?) and her misery expression. I think I've never seen a pic of her laughing. Maybe she's too cool for it, she appears very arrogant. ::) :P
Yes, Victoria "Post Spice" Beckham. Maybe she's just hungry. She looks like someone should give her a ham and cheese sandwich, or something. 8)
William, unfortunately, is turning into his father as he gets older. :( He has the same longish face of his father and his grandfather, Prince Philip. Harry (that red-headed hottie ;D ), on the other hand, has a face shaped more like his mother's face. I don't think William is particularly handsome, either, though I wouldn't--yet--call him "unattractive." But great happiness must make a difference, because I sure thought he looked handsome today, especially when he smiled (and it wasn't just the uniform).
I thought I heard one commentator say that Harry had to ride back to Buckingham Palace with the little kids. :laugh:
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I think overall that William got more good looks than plain looks from his parents. All the men in that family are follicly challenged, but at least they have the good taste to avoid comb-overs! The best things about William are his kind, intelligent eyes and his mother's smile. :)
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Someone else also mentioned Beckham's wife (Victoria?) and her misery expression. I think I've never seen a pic of her laughing. Maybe she's too cool for it, she appears very arrogant. ::) :P
I think perhaps starving herself every day (even when she was pregnant) for the last 30 years, might have something to do with that neverending miserable scowl on her face.
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I think overall that William got more good looks than plain looks from his parents. All the men in that family are follicly challenged, but at least they have the good taste to avoid comb-overs! The best things about William are his kind, intelligent eyes and his mother's smile. :)
I agree, 'hunnerd percent. He does have kind eyes. :D
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I think perhaps starving herself every day (even when she was pregnant) for the last 30 years, might have something to do with that neverending miserable scowl on her face.
Yup! Like I said, give that poor woman a ham and cheese sandwich. ;D
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Except for Camilla being there it was perfect, and I enjoyed every minute of it.
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I wasn't aware that Lady GaGa had been invited.
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I wasn't aware that Lady GaGa had been invited.
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The Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie, the Fifth and Sixth in the line of succession to the thrones of 16 independent states.
(All we can say, is: BREED, Will and Harry, BREED--and hurry!)
And I guess somebody forgot to tell Beatrix and Eugenie it was a wedding, not auditions for the circus.
Jesus H.! The headgear--I don't think they qualify as hats--those two were wearing!
Actually, Jeff, actually they aren't hats, they are called fascinators --seriously! This I know because I went to FIT--not for fashion, obviously, but learned this little factlet through osmosis:
http://thefeatheredhead.com/what-is-a-fascinator
What Is A Fascinator?
A fascinator (as opposed to a hat ) is a head piece, or style of millinery, commonly made with feathers, flowers, jewels or beads that attaches to the hair by a comb, headband or clip. The word originally referred to a head covering similar to a shawl made from wool or lace. The term had become virtually obsolete by the 1970s. In the early part of the 21st century, “fascinators” started to make a comeback but the meaning had slightly changed. The new definition refers to a head decoration that often accompanies mainly formal or party attire but is frequently seen these days paired with casual-wear as well. A fascinator may be worn instead of a hat to occasions where hats were once traditionally worn, such as weddings; brides increasingly choose to wear them as an alternative to a conventional bridal veil, particularly if their gowns or outfits are less fussy or non-traditional. As an evening accessory it is sometimes referred to as a “cocktail hat”, even when it doesn’t fit the standard definition of a “hat”. Stylish and fun, a fascinator can be worn on the front, side or, to showcase an updo or chignon, the back of the head.
Anybody else catch sight of the woman in the big, black hat the size of a wagon wheel? ;D
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Is this the hat in question? It is actually a hybrid hat/slash/fascinator; if you pulled of the squiggle on the right, it would be hat, and if instead you left the squiggle and pulled off the saucer, it would be a definite fascinator. (Wearing the Slash Hat-inator is Zara Phillips, Princess Anne's daughter--a MUCH more comely girl than Fergie's two 'fascinators!'!)
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What Is A Fascinator?
A fascinator is a head piece, or style of millinery, commonly made with feathers, flowers, jewels or beads that attaches to the hair by a comb, headband or clip. The word originally referred to a head covering similar to a shawl made from wool or lace. The term had become virtually obsolete by the 1970s. In the early part of the 21st century, “fascinators” started to make a comeback but the meaning had slightly changed. The new definition refers to a head decoration that often accompanies mainly formal or party attire but is frequently seen these days paired with casual-wear as well. A fascinator may be worn instead of a hat to occasions where hats were once traditionally worn, such as weddings; brides increasingly choose to wear them as an alternative to a conventional bridal veil, particularly if their gowns or outfits are less fussy or non-traditional. As an evening accessory it is sometimes referred to as a “cocktail hat”, even when it doesn’t fit the standard definition of a “hat”. Stylish and fun, a fascinator can be worn on the front, side or, to showcase an updo or chignon, the back of the head.
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"Everything Old is New Again..." ;D
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The late Isabella Blow wearing a Philip Treacy Lobster Hat
(after Elsa Schiaparelli, obviously)
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I loved the wedding. I'm glad the weather held up so they could ride in the open-air Landau.
I liked William's amusement as he whispered to his father-in-law
"We wanted a small family affair" in the middle of Westminster cathedral. :laugh:
Fergie's girls were rocking some high tech cutting edge fashion hats/fascinators.
Even the hated Camilla had a great hat on. I hadn't seen the royal with the big black pinwheel hat, but I love it. Love it. Must have it.
Will and Harry looked dashing and handsome. I love men in uniform.
Sadly I was not impressed with Kate or her sister's attire. The wedding gown was staid and dowdy, like something from the 50's rather than the 21st century. Granted the woman is not a spring chicken anymore, pushing 30, but she could have gone with something a bit more youthful. A Royal family fan friend of mine theorized that Kate realized Diana had gone over the top with her dress and knew she couldn't overstate the overstated without looking costume-y, so she didn't try. So she went with safe and it was boring. Pippa looked very nice, but her dress was more like an evening gown, not something suitable for a morning wedding.
Beckham was gorgeous, properly attired in - what do they call them? Morning suits? - and yes, the medal is real. He was awarded the Order of the British Empire. He was apparently wearing it on the wrong lapel - the Brits obviously keep up with this sort of minutiae - but it's real.
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This is a perfect example of the repercussions of interbreeding....thank goodness there are some new genes generating throught the royal family now.
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This is a perfect example of the repercussions of interbreeding....thank goodness there are some new genes generating throught the royal family now.
Hah! That's what they said when Andrew married Fergie! :laugh:
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This is a perfect example of the repercussions of interbreeding....thank goodness there are some new genes generating throught the royal family now.
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She looks a lot like her mom.
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Oh, I wouldn't have missed it. I wasn't sure whether or not I was going to watch until this morning, because it's so bittersweet after Diana. Wills looks so much like her, and Charles. (I must sound like his grandma or something, lol!)
I loved Kate's dress, loved how it was so classic, and I thought Pippa looked gorgeous. I think both royal sons are handsome, but there's something about the mischief in Prince Harry's eyes and slightly unruly hair that is very charming. :)
Becks looked really handsome too.
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I liked William's amusement as he whispered to his father-in-law
"We wanted a small family affair" in the middle of Westminster cathedral. :laugh:
The abbey is not a cathedral. Cathedral is a technical term, the "seat" of the bishop of a diocese. The cathedral, or seat for the bishop of London, is St. Paul's.
Sadly I was not impressed with Kate or her sister's attire. The wedding gown was staid and dowdy, like something from the 50's rather than the 21st century. Granted the woman is not a spring chicken anymore, pushing 30, but she could have gone with something a bit more youthful. A Royal family fan friend of mine theorized that Kate realized Diana had gone over the top with her dress and knew she couldn't overstate the overstated without looking costume-y, so she didn't try. So she went with safe and it was boring. Pippa looked very nice, but her dress was more like an evening gown, not something suitable for a morning wedding.
Well, one woman's "staid and dowdy" is another man's tasteful, elegant, and understated. :laugh:
I agree with you about Pippa's dress, more or less. Lovely evening gown, but I would say--as I've said already--too "clingy" (body-hugging) for a church wedding at any time of day.
Beckham was gorgeous, properly attired in - what do they call them? Morning suits? - and yes, the medal is real. He was awarded the Order of the British Empire. He was apparently wearing it on the wrong lapel - the Brits obviously keep up with this sort of minutiae - but it's real.
Thanks! Didn't know Becks had an OBE. I do believe it is a morning suit.
But I still think it makes him look like a refugee from a road company of My Fair Lady. That thing on Victoria's head, whatever you call it, makes her look like a Yeshiva boy.
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The abbey is not a cathedral. Cathedral is a technical term, the "seat" of the bishop of a diocese. The cathedral, or seat for the bishop of London, is St. Paul's.
Interesting...but that's what they call it. Westminster Seat doesn't have the same ring to it. ;)
Well, one woman's "staid and dowdy" is another man's tasteful, elegant, and understated. :laugh:
Yep.
Thanks! Didn't know Becks had an OBE. I do believe it is a morning suit.
But I still think it makes him look like a refugee from a road company of My Fair Lady. That thing on Victoria's head, whatever you call it, makes her look like a Yeshiva boy.
I LOVE those suits. :laugh: My Fair Lady? That's actually the period these suits are from. They don't change much. I didn't know about the OBE either until it was explained. As for Victoria...well, yeah, she could have chosen something better for a hat.
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Much nicer--I approve!
http://nymag.com/daily/fashion/2011/04/kate_middleton_is_now_wearing.html
Kate Middleton Is Now Wearing
Another
Alexander McQueen Dress for Dinner
at Buckingham Palace
By: Charlotte Cowles
4/29/11 at 5:15 PM
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Kate Middleton (now officially Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge) changed into another dress by McQueen's Sarah Burton for the post-wedding evening party at Buckingham Palace. Dress No. 2 is strapless, made of plain satin gazar, and nipped at the waist with a diamante embroidered band. Perhaps chilly, Kate's also wearing a white angora bolero cardigan, which looks poised to shed white fluff all over William's crisp black tux.
Hosted by Prince Charles and his wife, Camilla, the party includes 300 guests and reportedly has an informal "disco" theme. A highlight of the evening will undoubtedly be Prince Harry 's toast to the couple, which is expected to be scandalous (and hopefully booze-fueled). The couple will spend their first night together as newlyweds in the palace. The Queen, meanwhile, has departed for a private weekend at an undisclosed location so that the youngsters can be as rowdy as they please.
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*sigh*
Got me all excited there for a second. Still a plain, staid dress, with a fuzzy blankie around her shoulders that's going to shed all over her hair and anything woolen around her. NOW is the time she should have worn something like Pippa did.
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I liked William's amusement as he whispered to his father-in-law
"We wanted a small family affair" in the middle of Westminster cathedral. :laugh:
The abbey is not a cathedral. Cathedral is a technical term, the "seat" of the bishop of a diocese. The cathedral, or seat for the bishop of London, is St. Paul's.
Believe it or not, there is most definitely a Westminster Cathedral--it just isn't the Abbey. In quite a few large British cities, there are TWO cathedrals--one C. of E., and, as you can probably guess, R.C.; and this one is the biggest (and in this case, the ugliest):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_Cathedral
Westminster Cathedral
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Westminster Cathedral in London is the mother church of the Catholic community in England and Wales and the Metropolitan Church and Cathedral of the Archbishop of Westminster. It is dedicated to the "Most Precious Blood of Jesus Christ" (the Eucharist).
The cathedral is located in Victoria, SW1, in the City of Westminster. It is the largest Catholic church in England and Wales, and should not be confused with Westminster Abbey of the Church of England. Westminster Cathedral is the seat of the Archbishop of Westminster, currently Archbishop Vincent Nichols. As a matter of custom, each newly appointed Archbishop of Westminster has eventually been created a cardinal in consistory.
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The cathedral opened in 1903, a little after [architect John Francis] Bentley's death. For reasons of economy the decoration of the interior had hardly been started and still much remained to be completed. It is often presumed that Westminster Cathedral was the first Catholic place of worship to be built in England after the English Reformation; however that honour belongs to St Patrick's in Soho Square built in 1792. Britain's first Catholic churches built after the Reformation are both in Banffshire, Scotland. They are St. Ninian's, Tynet, built in 1755 and its near neighbour, St. Gregory's, Preshome, built in 1788. Both churches are still in use.
Under the laws of the Catholic Church at the time, no place of worship could be consecrated unless free from debt and having its fabric completed, so the consecration ceremony did not take place until June 28, 1910.
In 1977, as part of her Silver Jubilee Celebrations, the cathedral was visited by Her Majesty The Queen. Although there was no religious service (the visit was to a flower show) it was highly symbolic as the first visit of a reigning monarch of the United Kingdom to a Catholic church in the UK since the Reformation.
and etc.
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My.
Gawd.
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Earl Spencer looks terrible--
and he is ten years younger
than me!! :o
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But--
look at his 17 year-old son
(The Honourable Louis Frederick John Spencer,
Viscount Althorp) -- woah. Two of his
daughters, twins, are not bad looking either!
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Just because we can't let it go--
(who had to sit immediately behind
Beatrice? How annoying was that?! )
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OMG. He IS a god! Gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous.
Victoria looks fine. Can't imagine though why a woman 7 months pregnant would wear such towering heels. Scary.
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I'm sorry--I love Harry, but all his gold rope-braid and attendant folderol made me think of--
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--this!!
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Just because we can't let it go--
(who had to sit immediately behind
Beatrice? How annoying was that?! )
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That blue dress, looks like someone pinned the hem up and some of the pins fell out......
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Earl Spencer looks terrible--
and he is ten years younger
than me!! :o
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But--
look at his 17 year-old son
(The Honourable Louis Frederick John Spencer,
Viscount Althorp) -- woah. Two of his
daughters, twins, are not bad looking either!
And who is that under the hat?
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And who is that under the hat?
The Mysterious Lady is....Karen Gordon, the most recently betrothed of Earl Spencer (he broke off another engagement in September) :
(http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/royal-wedding/4287234.bin)
Charles Spencer, brother of the late Diana, Princess of Wales, poses with his fiance Karen Gordon, a Canadian philanthropist, in their official engagement photo released in London Tuesday.
Gordon, 38, is the founder and CEO of Whole Child International, a California-based non-profit group that works to improve the quality of care in orphanages around the world.
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That's it! It's a landslide! Our LADY Gaga wins over PRINCESS Beatrice!
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MpFjeuytfg[/youtube]
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I thought they didn't get out of their coffins till after dark. ???
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And ... there's Harry in fifty years. ...
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The Mysterious Lady is....Karen Gordon, the most recently betrothed of Earl Spencer (he broke off another engagement in September) :
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Wow, Gordon is beautiful.
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She's got hooves! :o
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And ... there's Harry in fifty years. ...
Scary thing is--Charles Spencer is only 46 (soon to be 47); he's not holding up very well at all!
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Interesting...but that's what they call it. Westminster Seat doesn't have the same ring to it. ;)
No, they don't call Westminster Abbey "Westminster Cathedral," because it isn't a cathedral.
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Scary thing is--Charles Spencer is only 46 (soon to be 47); he's not holding up very well at all!
No, he's not. Too bad. :(
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No, they don't call Westminster Abbey "Westminster Cathedral," because it isn't a cathedral.
Well, as was explained, there are two different places. All I did was google Westminster cathedral and it popped right up.
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No, they don't call Westminster Abbey "Westminster Cathedral," because it isn't a cathedral.
Yes, there is a Westminster Cathedral--the R.C. one (see slightly earlier in this thread or go to Wikipedia for 'Westminster Cathedral').
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She's got hooves! :o
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(Michael Jackson was smarter than Golden Balls--HE knew his medal was supposed to be pinned on the left! )
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OMG. He IS a god! Gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous.
Victoria looks fine. Can't imagine though why a woman 7 months pregnant would wear such towering heels. Scary.
And I understand he is 36 today.
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I just read that Kate did her own makeup? Is that true?
Does that account for the awful blush line that went from the apple of her cheek in a straight completely unblended line back to her hairline?
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Since we're talking about the royal wedding, I saw a show on 25 dos and don'ts for weddings.
Some of the itmes on the list......you have to see them to believe some of them.
If you want to see the list, click the link below.
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,49046.msg610118.html#msg610118
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Since we're talking about the royal wedding, I saw a show on 25 dos and don'ts for weddings.
Some of the itmes on the list......you have to see them to believe some of them.
If you want to see the list, click the link below.
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,49046.msg610118.html#msg610118
Wow, some of those "new traditions"...let's just say we can live without them becoming popular. Eeck.
I'm thinking Kate did her own makeup because Pippa's makeup looked the same.
Watching it again, I do like the little salutes to war memorials and such the princes do. The commentators mentioned that Kate did not have to do a salute (or earn one) on the way to the wedding since she wasn't a royal yet, but would on the way back as a woman married to a royal. I was wondering how she would 'salute' but it's actually that HE salutes, she just bows her head.
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Grace Van Cutsem, 3 years-old, Steals Attention During Royal Wedding Kiss
(daughter of Lady Rose Astor and Hugh van Cutsem, and the great-great-great-granddaughter of William Waldorf Astor)
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/30/world/europe/30britain.html
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A Traditional Royal Wedding,
but for the 3 Billion Witnesses
By SARAH LYALL
Published: April 29, 2011
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Roaring crowds (and a scowling bridesmaid) greeted Prince William and Kate Middleton for
their kiss on the balcony of Buckingham Palace on Friday.
LONDON — In the end, Friday’s wedding between Prince William and Kate Middleton may not have ushered in a new dawn for the frayed royal family or brought a renewed era of optimism to a country beset by financial woes, as some predicted in the overheated countdown to the big day. But it proved that the British still know how to combine pageantry, solemnity and romance (and wild hats) better than anyone else in the world.
It was an impeccably choreographed occasion of high pomp and heartfelt emotion, of ancient customs tweaked by modern developments (Elton John brought his husband).
Viewing estimates for the ceremony, at 11 a.m. British time on the dot, hovered in the three billion range, give or take 500 million. Australians held bouquet-throwing competitions; people in Hong Kong wore Kate and William masks; New Yorkers rose by dawn to watch the entrance of guests like Victoria Beckham, teetering pregnantly in sky-high Christian Louboutin heels, Guy Ritchie, the former Mr. Madonna, and assorted monarchs from European countries that are no longer monarchies, like Bulgaria.
In London, the Metropolitan Police said, a million people lined the route of the royal procession, and half a million gathered in front of Buckingham Palace to watch the bride and groom, now known as the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, kiss (twice) on the palace balcony.
People paid attention almost despite themselves.
“I never really think too seriously about them,” said Kathy Gunn, 54, speaking of the royal family. Yet she had somehow been inexorably sucked into the spirit of the occasion, watching it unfold with a crowd on a huge screen at a cafe in central London. “It gives you a great sense of community and spirit,” she said. “I am a royalist for the day.”
In a world of scattered attention, the occasion had the effect of providing a single international conversation about a subject with universal appeal. It was like a party scene in “Dallas,” only with Prince Philip instead of J. R. Ewing.
Grizzled political correspondents, hauled in to television studios to serve as wedding anchors, found themselves talking in all seriousness about the passementerie of the mother of the bride’s dress and the provenance of Miss Middleton’s tiara. (She borrowed it from Queen Elizabeth, in case you were wondering. It is made of a great many diamonds.)
There was a feast of interesting particulars. First, Kate’s dress. Though The Daily Mail successfully predicted the name of the designer — Sarah Burton at Alexander McQueen — it was still an official secret, so much so that Ms. Burton tried to sneak into Kate’s hotel on Thursday night with her face mostly obscured by a huge yeti-like fur hat.
St. James’s Palace released the details of the dress just as Miss Middleton stepped out of a royal Rolls-Royce with her father, Michael, to walk down the aisle at Westminster Abbey.
Her “something old” was the design of the dress, using traditional craftsmanship. “Something new” was represented by her earrings, a gift from her parents. The tiara was borrowed, and she had a blue ribbon sewn into her dress for her blue item.
Prince William wore the bright scarlet coat of an Irish Guards mounted officer, the uniform of his senior honorary army appointment. He was wearing “gold sword slings,” St. James’s Palace said, but no sword.
The outfits of the guests were generally tasteful and royal-friendly. A few things stuck out. The exotic costumes of foreign dignitaries, seeming throwbacks to imperial times. The hats worn by the ladies, which resembled, variously, overturned buckets, flowerpots, lampshades, fezzes, salad plates, tea cozies, flying saucers, abstract artworks or, in one case, a pile of feathers. There were also a number of fascinators, decorative shapes with flowers or feathers, that are stuck in one’s hair but are not hats.
Catty observers pointed out that Prime Minister David Cameron’s wife, Samantha, was possibly the only female guest who wore no hat (or fascinator) at all.
Mr. Cameron wore a traditional morning suit. The dress code had filled him with angst this month when news broke out that in order to avoid appearing too posh, he intended to wear a regular business suit, what the British call a “lounge suit.” But as scorn poured upon him — he is in fact posh and frequently wears posh clothes — he said that he would wear a morning suit after all.
Some questions were also raised about the guest list. John Major and Margaret Thatcher, former Conservative prime ministers, were invited; Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, former Labour prime ministers, were not. (Mr. Major attended; Lady Thatcher was ill and stayed home.) The Syrian ambassador was invited, and then uninvited. Sarah Ferguson, the Duchess of York, was never invited.
The new duchess, of course, has parents who made their own fortune with an Internet party-accouterments business. Even a generation ago, she would have been considered unthinkable as a prospective royal bride.
The country’s merciless news media have been watching hopefully, and mostly fruitlessly, for signs of middle-class behavior from the Middletons. One TV commentator, standing outside the Goring Hotel, which the Middletons rented for the night before the wedding, remarked, “It’s sometimes hard to tell who are Middletons and who are staff.”
But except for having no titles, no inherited tiaras and no military uniforms, the Middletons were indistinguishable from the guests at the wedding. The bride’s mother, Carole, wore a lovely outfit by Catherine Walker, an aristocrat-approved designer; she did not chew gum, as she was said to have done once when she appeared in public at a royal event, or exhibit déclassé tendencies of any kind.
Kate’s elevation, such as it is, to royalty adds a special frisson to the story of her romance with William. The world knows that there are often no fairy-tale endings to these made-for-television moments — the collapse of the marriage of William’s parents being the most obvious example. But this couple seems to be a real one, with the potential to resuscitate the image of a royal family tarnished by misadventures like the antics of Prince Harry and Prince Andrew, and resentment over privilege and expenditures.
Kate, who promised to love William but not to obey him, is not actually a princess yet (if she were, she would be called Princess William, which is perhaps not a dream title). But she seems already at ease in what will now be a lifetime job, one with a heavy burden of responsibility as well as great privilege. As the couple drove in their horse-drawn carriage from the church to Buckingham Palace, she waved like a pro — from the wrist, the royal way.
Ravi Somaiya contributed reporting.
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I wasn't aware that Lady GaGa had been invited.
The woman to the right clearly needs a doctor, poor thing.
That strange growth on her forehead looks dangerous to me.
I'm sure she'll feel better after it's removed.
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Another wedding guest who needs a doctor?
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That's it! It's a landslide! Our LADY Gaga wins over PRINCESS Beatrice!
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8) 8) 8) 8)
manip by Jimmy/knash,
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She's got hooves! :o
LOL!! ;D
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8) 8) 8) 8)
manip by Jimmy/knash,
Best. EVER!!!!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Glad you like it, John!
Jimmy is a very talented photoshopper, among other things. :)
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OMG, At Last!
A Full Length, Side View!
(Not Photoshopped!
Objects are Seen
as Full Size Because
They are Real!)
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The Queen of Essex
and
The Duke of (Real) Madrid
Note: DB never actually
wore his topper--
Prop Only!!!
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8) 8) ;D ;D
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:D
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The Day After!
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The woman to the right clearly needs a doctor, poor thing.
That strange growth on her forehead looks dangerous to me.
I'm sure she'll feel better after it's removed.
Those were Sarah Ferguson's daughters in the photo. How embarrassing for her! :laugh:
Eugenie's hat looked kind of cute, sort of a neo-Tudor look. But that dress, alas, had a neo-K-Mart look.
I slept through the original telecast but it was replayed in its entirety and we spent the whole evening watching it. I suspect The Husband wasn't initially into it but we got some badly-needed laughs out of all the hats. And that dress was incredible -- very elegant and just enough frou-frou.
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The Day After!
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Caption: "IT WENT OFF WITHOUT A HITCH!" :)
Can you imagine 3 billion people watching your wedding? I can't!
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Oh, dear. That getup makes Becks look like a refugee from a road company of My Fair Lady. :-\
Anybody know what the medal is that he's wearing? Is it "for real"?
Yep, its real!
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Note: DB never actually
wore his topper--
Prop Only!!!
What? And mess up his hair? You saw what hats did to the Princes' hair, DB - fashionisto extraordinaire - knows better.
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Those were Sarah Ferguson's daughters in the photo. How embarrassing for her! :laugh:
The last we heard from Sarah Ferguson, she was drunkenly trying to sell insider information on her ex-husband Andrew to the tabloids, as I recall.
Embarrass her? Unlikely.
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I thought I heard one commentator say that Harry had to ride back to Buckingham Palace with the little kids. :laugh:
Yes him and Pippa were in the Carriages with the flowergirls and page poys..
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Yeah, we loved all the headdresses, too.
Someone already mentioned a satellite dish, that was the exact same thing we said. :laugh:
Someone else also mentioned Beckham's wife (Victoria?) and her misery expression. I think I've never seen a pic of her laughing. Maybe she's too cool for it, she appears very arrogant. ::) :P
I loved the hairpieces.. I liked Beatrice's but maybe thats the British in me.. the fascinators are a staple at the UK weddings!
I loved Kates dress.. but then I like the 50's style. Classic with a modern twist!
Apparentl Victoria while she never smiles is a total riot and very funny when she gets to know you.. so there you go!
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That blue dress, looks like someone pinned the hem up and some of the pins fell out......
Its by Vivienne Westwood apparently.
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And who is that under the hat?
His fiance. Some american....
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And ... there's Harry in fifty years. ...
Fifty years.. poor earl spencer in his 70's yet!
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Can you imagine 3 billion people watching your wedding? I can't!
Yike!
NO!!
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His fiance. Some american....
Nope! Canadian.
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8) 8) 8) 8)
:laugh: :laugh:
manip by Jimmy/knash,
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Nope! Canadian.
whoops - then it was her previous husband that was American.. a famous film director?
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:D
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpsBv2GehQw&feature=related[/youtube]
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MpFjeuytfg[/youtube]
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Apparently the lipreaders are saying he said..
'Kate look at me' and then he kissed her and then shouted to Wills, "right your turn now!"
and then the second time he said to Kate,
""should we give them just one more, just one more kiss?" and she giggles and nods...
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Apparentl Victoria while she never smiles is a total riot and very funny when she gets to know you.. so there you go!
That's what she said in an interview. She likes to keep a straight face while in the public, because it's easier than smiles - I was thinking of the wedding, you know when you schmooze? Sometimes you're smiling for hours and it can be wearing, keeping a smile on your face.
Yeah, normally, her friends/family say she's smiling all the time and a great cut-up.
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whoops - then it was her previous husband that was American.. a famous film director?
??
Charles Spencer's SECOND wife, Caroline, was first married to Matthew Freud. He had a fiance after Caroline, but dropped her last year. He is marrying the Canadian this Summer--I don't know who she was with prior.
The Earl is 46, turns 47 this month. He looks 10 years older--he's burning both ends of the candle, I think!
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Charles Spencer's SECOND wife, Caroline, was first married to Matthew Freud. He had a fiance after Caroline, but dropped her last year. He is marrying the Canadian this Summer--I don't know who she was with prior.
The Earl is 46, turns 47 this month. He looks 10 years older--he's burning both ends of the candle, I think!
They talked about it on E! Her ex husband it apparently quite well know as a Director....
EDIT: I've found who it is now. She was previously married to an American Producer..
The mother of two daughters, Gordon started the organization in 2003 following her divorce from Hollywood producer Mark Gordon, who has the movie Saving Private Ryan and TV's Grey's Anatomy among his credits.
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INteresting piece about Earl spencer.. and how he looks just like his Dad...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1381956/Royal-Wedding-Princess-Dianas-brother-Earl-Spencer-resembles-father.html
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They talked about it on E! Her ex husband it apparently quite well know as a Director....
EDIT: I've found who it is now. She was previously married to an American Producer..
Thanks! :)
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GREAT photo!!!
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Harry apparently said
"Wait to you see what's coming!" to Wills as he looked back to see Kate and her dad walking down the aisle..
Good little video here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13247503
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*Love*
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtA6xKusq5M[/youtube]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/royal-wedding/royal-wedding-video/8484006/Royal-wedding-video-Verger-cartwheels-down-Westminster-Abbey-aisle.html
Unable any longer to contain his joy, the layman who has been named as Ben Sheward, offered his own personal fly-past to mark the occasion.
He strode happily along the red-carpeted aisle in his traditional black cassock, paused with one arm aloft, like a cricketer preparing to bowl, and performed a near-perfect cartwheel.
As he returned to the upright position, the verger smiled broadly and walked a few paces further on the carpet, before allowing himself a second cartwheel, which took him just out of view.
The church official was captured by cameras after Prince William and Kate Middleton, now the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, made their vows to each other during their wedding ceremony and left Westminster Abbey for Buckingham Palace.
Such gymnastic displays are rare in the 1,000 year-old Abbey, which has been the Coronation church since 1066 and is the final resting place of 17 monarchs.
A spokesman for the Abbey declined to reveal the identity of the verger responsible for the exuberant display.
“Vergers are people who assist and prepare for the clergy in their services,” the spokesman said. “Our view is that the verger was simply reflecting what we all feel about a very successful service. It is a general reflection of the mood of the Abbey and a job well done.
“It was long after the congregation had departed and we were all reflecting on what we had achieved.”
The ceremony was watched by 2,000 friends, family and dignitaries inside the Abbey and an estimated 2 billion people around the world.
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He is tall!
(His father is a
munchkin
compared to him!)
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Ha!
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;D
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Doonesbury's Zonker and Samantha go to the Royal Wedding:
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I watched it from start to finish and I thought it was wonderful. Kate looked beautiful, elegant and regal. She's a credit to the royal family. With all the misery that's been going on in the world lately, it was lovely to have something nice for a change, something to celebrate. Made me proud to be a Brit. :)
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I like that they aren;t massively formal.. with the page boys and eldest flowergirl having fun and Camilla's granddaughter holding on tightly to her grannys hand etc etc..
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INteresting piece about Earl spencer.. and how he looks just like his Dad...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1381956/Royal-Wedding-Princess-Dianas-brother-Earl-Spencer-resembles-father.html
Great article, thanks Kelda. Amazing photos of Johnny Spencer (Charles's father); gosh, AGE is a terrible, terrible thing:
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But Charles's daughters--WOW!
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Now we want to see the son, please!!
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Hes to the left of them in this photo... yet to see a shot of him from yesterday which is not just his hair!!
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Hes to the left of them in this photo... yet to see a shot of him from yesterday which is not just his hair!!
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I've seen this one--I want him away from giant saucer hats and fascinators so I can SEE him!
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This was posted on DCF, and I'm posting it here.
Oh dear......an unfortunate shot.
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Wills and Kate look so joyfully happy. I'm struck by how laissez-faire they look, like they don't have a care in the world. It's wonderful to see two people so much in love. I think they'll make a good, hopefully life-long match. I've never seen her glow as much as she did this morning, leaving the palace. Sweet...
Watched the 1970 BBC 6-part series "The 6 Wives of Henry VIII" yesterday in honor of the event. I can only imagine the horror that Katherine Parr was feeling when the King proposed to her as wife #6, knowing how poorly the first 5 turned out. She was smart to counter-propose to be his mistress instead; they rarely ended up with their heads chopped off:)
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I appreciate how William was extremely careful not to step on her dress on the way out of the Abbey. He stood a little in front of her and far enough to the side to be clear of the bell of her dress, but not so far that it looked strange, and he kept looking down to make sure he wasn't getting too close.
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Watched the 1970 BBC 6-part series "The 6 Wives of Henry VIII" yesterday in honor of the event. I can only imagine the horror that Katherine Parr was feeling when the King proposed to her as wife #6, knowing how poorly the first 5 turned out. She was smart to counter-propose to be his mistress instead; they rarely ended up with their heads chopped off:)
Best screen treatment of the topic ever. Keith Michell is the definitive screen Henry VIII.
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"He's so Haaaawtt! "
::) ::) :laugh: :laugh:
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Way Cool, Simply Stunning.
8) 8) 8) 8)
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I was disappointed with the dress. Isn't time we abandon this white 'princess' wedding dress business? I was hoping that she'd start a new trend by wearing something more colourful. It's a nice dress but not very original or daring.
Below is the wedding of the Prince and Princess of Montpensier (16th century) Her jacket comes off to show some bosom. I couldn't find a better shot. Not the happiest day for these two, lol!
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Best screen treatment of the topic ever. Keith Michell is the definitive screen Henry VIII.
I would agree. Very informative as to the ladies in his life as well, what they had to endure. I cannot imagine how Mr. Michell managed to carry around that much padding for so long. Guess it had to be done in order to make him look like he was truly in pain. The newest DVD also has a 4th disc with special features, including the original "The Other Boleyn Girl" with Natasha McElhone, which I've always thought was better than the more recent version with Scarlett Johannsen.
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Quite a beautiful young woman. :)
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It's a nice dress but not very original or daring.
"Daring" is out of the question when one is marrying a future king of England and Supreme Governor of the Church of England.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382098/Royal-wedding-speech-Prince-Harry-pays-tribute-Prince-William.html
Harry pays tribute to William 'the dude'...
but ditches his comments about Kate's killer legs
in speech that left her 'touched'
By Katie Nicholl
Mail On Sunday Royal Correspondent
Last updated at
5:59 PM on 1st May 2011
-William and Kate leave Buckingham Palace by helicopter for honeymoon
-Couple spent first married night together at the Palace
-Prince Charles quipped about his son going bald during speeches
-Harry leaves party in minibus at 3am - while Chelsy Davy leaves in car with Beatrice and Eugenie
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Long day: Princesses Beatrice and Eugiene leave in a royal car with Chelsy Davy, centre
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Princess Beatrice leaves the Palace in a purple and gold outfit after the evening celebration for
300 close friends and family
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4am girls: Her outfit looking a little worse for wear, Beatrice, left, leaves the unofficial afterparty at
The Goring hotel having swapped her heels for trainers. Eugenie, meanwhile is still smiling despite the hour
Prince Harry paid a moving tribute to his brother ‘The Dude’ and his new sister-in-law ‘The Duchess’ during a heartfelt speech at their evening wedding reception on Friday.
Harry also told the couple’s friends and family that he loved Kate ‘like a sister’ and how the story of the couple’s long romance ‘inspires’ him. According to several guests, Kate was ‘very emotional and touched’ by Harry’s tribute and even shed a tear during the evening’s festivities.
Harry delivered his best man’s speech, which he had been working on for the past fortnight, at 9.30pm after 300 of the couple’s close family and friends had enjoyed a three-course meal with vintage champagne.
He had asked his best friends Thomas Van Straubenzee and Guy Pelly to be a sounding board ahead of the speech and is understood to have dropped a reference to ‘Kate’s killer legs’ from the final edit.
‘Harry had some joke in about how he had immediately given Kate the thumbs up when William first brought her home because she had such a great pair of pins, but he didn’t want to embarrass her,’ said a friend.
According to sources inside the evening reception, Harry’s speech was ‘warm and affectionate’ and peppered with good humour and jokes.
One partygoer leaving Buckingham Palace event in the early hours of Saturday told The Mail on Sunday: ‘Harry said William was the perfect brother. It was exactly how you would expect a best man’s speech to be. He cracked loads of jokes about William. He called him a “dude” several times. He kept coming back to it, saying “What a dude”.’
Harry described his brother’s relationship with Kate as ‘inspirational’ and to much applause added: ‘William didn’t have a romantic bone in his body before he met Kate, so I knew it was serious when William suddenly started cooing down the phone at Kate.’
Harry, famous for his impersonations, then did a high-pitched impression of Kate calling William ‘Billy’ and of his brother calling Kate ‘baby’, to much hilarity from the guests.
Charles's jokes at wedding breakfast
Earlier in the day it was the Prince of Wales who had been playing the joker, making a comment about his son’s thinning hair during the wedding breakfast at Buckingham Palace.
‘The thing about growing older is that your children get taller than you so they can see your bald spots. Now in my case, I can see his,’ Prince Charles remarked, to which William retorted: ‘You got there before Harry!’ to much laughter.
William delivered a brief speech at the wedding breakfast where he proudly introduced his wife as ‘Mrs Wales’ even though the couple will be formally known as the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge.
A heartfelt Prince William declared his new wife 'my rock' in the emotional speech, given to guests at the intimate reception.
In what was a tribute to the normality and security Kate provides him, William's words revealed just how indebted he is to Kate for her support.
‘It was received with cheers and shouts of hoorah,’ said one guest. ‘William and Catherine were amazingly relaxed, and although it was a formal affair, it felt very relaxed and intimate. Catherine was amazingly calm and said how thrilled she was with the day. She and William didn’t leave one another’s side. They said it was the happiest day of their lives.
‘William was very gracious and thanked absolutely everyone for making the day come together. He thanked everyone from the florist to the chef.’
How they watched themselves on TV
After the wedding breakfast the newlyweds returned to Clarence House in Prince Charles’s Aston Martin, which had been customised by the best man with balloons and a ‘JU5T WED’ number plate.
Harry returned shortly afterwards and he, Kate and William spent the afternoon relaxing and watching a replay of the wedding ceremony on television.
As they made their way to the reception with Charles and Camilla, William was heard talking about how his goddaughter bridesmaid Grace Van Cutsem, the three-year-old daughter of his friends Hugh and Rose Van Cutsem, had covered her ears with her hands because of the thunderous applause from the crowds at The Mall.
‘Did you see how terrified Grace looked?’ he remarked to his wife.
Party that rocked Buckingham Palace
As predicted, the evening celebrations continued into the early hours. The Queen and Prince Philip had left Buckingham Palace to William and Kate, and glitter balls had been hung in the throne room where a disco continued into the small hours.
Kate had changed out of her Alexander McQueen wedding dress and into a floor-length ivory satin gazar gown with a diamante-embroidered waistband and a cream-coloured angora bolero jacket, also designed by her wedding dress maker Sarah Burton. Her hairdresser James Pryce reprised her engagement day hairstyle for the evening event.
Kate left Clarence House to travel by car to Buckingham Palace with her husband, who was dressed in a dinner jacket and black tie. They were followed by Charles, also wearing a dinner suit, and Camilla, who wore a blue Anna Valentine dress.
As they filtered into the party guests were greeted by a military band in full uniform and serenaded with bagpipes. The atmosphere inside the Palace was described as ‘electric’ and ‘buzzing’ by a female band member who performed for the couple.
‘Kate looked beautiful. Absolutely serene. She had changed into a full-length white dress. It was stunning. I saw the couple together.
She and William both looked very, very happy and were smiling as people came over to them.’
At 8.30pm a three-course dinner was served by Swiss chef Anton Mossiman. He had brought 25 staff from his Knightsbridge restaurant into the Palace.
William, Kate and Pippa, Kate’s younger sister and Maid of Honour who has been instrumental in helping to plan the party, had visited Mosimann’s last month for a tasting and instructed the chef to create a ‘simple and unstuffy but sophisticated menu’.
Harry was seated next to his on-off girlfriend Chelsy Davy and gave his speech at 9.30pm after dinner was served.
‘Kate had been amazingly composed throughout the day, but she did look as though she had a tear in her eye when Harry gave his speech. She was very emotional,’ said a source.
The father of the bride delivered a speech that had the whole room roaring with laughter when he told the controversial story of William landing his Chinook in the back garden of the Middletons’ family home.
‘I knew things were getting serious when I found a helicopter in my garden. I thought, gosh, he must like my daughter,’ said Michael Middleton.
Speaking warmly of William, whom he called ‘one of the family’, Mr Middleton said: ‘I did wonder then how William was going to top this if they ever got engaged. I just thought, What will he do? You can’t get much better than that and we are certainly not used to Princes landing helicopters in the garden.'
Party-goers said that both William and Harry used the evening to pay moving tributes to their late mother, Princess Diana.
‘All the speeches mentioned Diana. Of course they did, she was their mother after all,’ said one.
After the speeches William and Kate took to the dance floor by themselves for the first dance, a rendition of Elton John’s Your Song sung by Ellie Goulding.
The 24-year-old singer – the only act to perform during the night – was chosen by the couple because she is their favourite artist.
‘It was an amazing honour to be asked by Kate and William to perform at their party. The atmosphere was incredible and it is a night I will never forget,’ she said yesterday.
The music continued until 2am. Among the songs played were You’re The One That I Want from the musical Grease. William had requested songs by rapper Tinie Tempah and the Body Rockers’ I Like The Way You Move.
Even the mother of the bride had a request and asked for the 1986 Jermaine Stewart song We Don’t Have To Take Our Clothes Off to be played.
Two female party-goers said the dancing was ‘fun and outrageous’, adding: ‘There was a chicken dance with lots of arm flapping, which was particularly good fun. Everyone was on the dance floor. The guests were really up for partying.’
Even back-room staff weren’t exempt – Buckingham Palace catering staff said the Palace threw a party for workers with bottles of Jacobs Creek wine, Boddingtons beer, vodka and gin on the menu.
Just after midnight the first guests began to leave. Among them were Charles and Camilla, the official hosts of the event, who were whisked through the main Palace gates at 12.20am looking happy and relaxed despite the long day.
At 2.45am loud cheers could be heard from over the Palace walls as a fireworks display was let off in the back garden. Partygoers whooped and cheered as red and white rockets were fired in short bursts.
By 3am only a handful of hardened party-goers were left inside the Palace, including Harry, Chelsy and Pippa.
3am and Harry keeps the festivities going
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Palace joker: Prince Harry takes his Master of Ceremonies duties carefully, clutching a microphone
as he leaves Buckingham Palace in a coach on Friday night
At 3.10am Harry, wearing a black dinner jacket and white dress shirt with three buttons undone, emerged to lead revellers on to the second venue of the night – the nearby Goring hotel.
The 101-year-old hotel, which had been hired out in its entirety by the Middleton family, became the focus for guests looking to continue partying into the small hours.
In what appeared to be a well-organised procedure, a convoy of three silver coaches, each filled with around 30 guests, was used to transport revellers from Buckingham Palace.
Harry, who seemed in high spirits, sat in the front row of seats, directly behind the coach driver as he was taken from the Palace, with Pippa in the row behind him.
A black Range Rover followed close behind carrying Chelsy, 25, and Prince Andrew’s daughters Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie.
Chelsy and Eugenie were in the back seat and Beatrice, wearing a purple and gold one-shouldered dress, in the front.
The Princesses stayed at the party for an hour before departing in a taxi at 4.08am.
Police had already sealed all four road entrances to The Goring hotel preventing anyone other than Royal guests accessing the hotel entrance, which was adorned with white and pink hydrangeas and red geraniums mounted on garlands of ivy.
As he arrived at The Goring, Harry bolted from the coach and into the hotel foyer where he was greeted by hotel staff and security who took the names of partygoers at the door.
Butlers in bowler hats welcomed revellers in via the tented porch and through the front door.
Other guests followed on foot, some swigging from champagne bottles as they made the five-minute walk along the deserted streets around Buckingham Palace to The Goring.
Many guests were spotted clutching handbag-sized presents wrapped in gold paper – believed to be wedding favours from the couple.
At one point several of the guests who walked to the hotel took part in an impromptu piggy back race past the Palace walls before dismounting when they reached The Goring.
The revelries at the hotel, where Kate spent her last night as a single woman on Thursday, continued until sunrise. Tony Unsworth, 59, a family friend of the Middletons, said: ‘I went to bed around 1am but I heard guests stumbling around at 5am coming back from the Palace.’
The playlist
Ellie Goulding (live)
Your Song
Ellie Goulding (live)
Starry Eyed
Jermaine Stewart
We Don’t Have To Take Our Clothes Off
Body Rockers
I Like The Way You Move
Tinie Tempah
Pass Out
The Kings Of Leon
Sex On Fire
Mossiman menu
Terrine of dressed crab and tiger prawns
Aberdeen Angus beef fillet from Longoe Farm, the Castle of Mey, Scotland
Welsh lamb from the Highgrove estate
Spring vegetables grilled and blanched (and not cooked in butter or cream)
Trio of chocolate puddings
Seasonal fruits
Ice cream with a brandy snap
Additional reporting: Lara Gould, George Arbuthnott, James Millbank, Charlotte Griffiths and Nick Constable
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Very nice legs--
(Hers too, of course!)
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Best screen treatment of the topic ever. Keith Michell is the definitive screen Henry VIII.
Oh, and I'd put Richard Burton in "Anne of the Thousand Days" in a very close second. One of the sexiest, manliest, dreamiest Englishmen ever, and to see him angry and lustful and screaming and vengeful and murderous, even while wearing tights almost all the while... Yummy.
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Royal Wedding: £1 wiggly worm spotted in Prince William and Kate Middleton's official wedding photo
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A £1 'wiggly worm' toy which made an unplanned appearance in the official royal wedding photographs was bought by Prince Harry to keep the younger bridesmaids happy, the Duchess of Cornwall has revealed.
The bright pink toy is seen clutched in the hand of Camilla's granddaughter, three-year-old Eliza Lopes, in the photographs.
Camilla said: "That was the funniest thing. I can't believe no one has spotted it."
She said Eliza had appeared scared by the noise from the jubilant crowds during the carriage ride from Westminster Abbey to Buckingham Palace.
Prince Harry, travelling in the same carriage as Eliza, seven-year-old Lady Louise Windsor and eight-year-old page boy Tom Pettifer, had bought the toy in anticipation of Eliza's reaction and pulled it out of his pocket to keep her happy.
Speaking at an event for the Wiltshire Bobby Van Trust, in Calne, she said: "I was so worried about Eliza. She is such a lovely little thing and looked so gorgeous in her dress but it was a very big occasion for a child of her age.
"Harry pulled this wiggly worm out of his pocket in the carriage to keep them amused. Eliza loved it so much that she wouldn't let go and it even made the official photographs.
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Source (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/05/04/royal-wedding-1-wiggly-worm-spotted-in-prince-william-and-kate-middleton-s-official-wedding-photo-115875-23107203/)
(Thanks Celeste)
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I saw this today.. very cute! And thoughtful of harry!
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Oh, and I'd put Richard Burton in "Anne of the Thousand Days" in a very close second. One of the sexiest, manliest, dreamiest Englishmen ever, and to see him angry and lustful and screaming and vengeful and murderous, even while wearing tights almost all the while... Yummy.
That was a very sexy period -- or "lusty", as they would have said then. Though I expect Burton was a lot more sexy than Henry VIII in real life. ;)
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I would agree with you there, Marge. It would certainly take one heck of a man -- monarch or not -- to outdo Mr. Burton in terms of "lusty".
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I don't know if these photos are from the wedding but they are pretty funny. It sure looks like Phillip is letting one go. That Harry is so adorable!
The Royal Fart?
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It DOES! Look at the queen's reaction!!
I don't know if these photos are from the wedding but they are pretty funny. It sure looks like Phillip is letting one go. That Harry is so adorable!
The Royal Fart?
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I just heard on the NBC news that you, too, can own Princess Beatrix's hat/fascinator. It's being sold on eBay, with the proceeds to benefit UNICEF.
They didn't say whether the rest of the outfit goes with it.
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??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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At least it's for good causes. Kelda, did you put your hat (no pun intended) in the ring on the E-Bay bidding?
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Bids soar for princess's "toilet seat" wedding hat
LONDON (Reuters) – The much-mocked hat worn by Princess Beatrice to Britain's royal wedding last month -- widely described as looking like a "toilet seat" -- is up for sale on eBay where bids have reached 18,400 pounds ($29,940).
The tea rose, silk hat was "the most talked about hat of the whole occasion" Harold Tilman, Chairman of the British Fashion Council, said on eBay.
The fuss over the hat worn to the royal wedding of her cousin Prince William to longtime girlfriend Kate Middleton seems to have taken Beatrice -- who is the daughter of William's uncle Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson -- by surprise too.
"I've been amazed by the amount of attention the hat has attracted," Beatrice said on the auction site. "I hope whoever wins the auction has as much fun with the hat as I have."
Money raised by the sale of the hat will be equally split between two charities: UNICEF and Children in Crisis.
The hat, by milliner Philip Treacy, was given a starting price of 5,000 pounds and 32 bidders have placed 60 bids in the last six days.
The eBay site has linked the auction to Facebook where members of the public have celebrated the hat design.
Treacy said he was "delighted, flattered and touched by HRH Princess' Beatrice's decision to donate the hat to charity."
The auction continues until May 22.
(Reporting by Gemma Fitchett; Editing by Paul Casciato)
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hahaha no Mandy.. don;t have that sort of money and I dont like it that much!
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Meanwhile...
http://www.newser.com/story/118885/queen-elizabeth-ii-passes-on-guinness-in-ireland.html
In Ireland, Queen Passes on Guinness
Guinness may be good for you , but she'll skip Ireland's famous export
By the Associated Press
Posted May 18, 2011 1:51 PM CDT
Updated May 18, 2011 4:34 PM CDT
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Britain's Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip watch as Fergal Murray pours a
pint of Guinness in the Gravity Bar, one of Ireland's most popular sites, in Dublin,
Wednesday May 18, 2011. (AP Photo/pool)
(AP) – Queen Elizabeth II's journey of reconciliation to Ireland this week has been serious business—given the violent history between the two countries—which is why one might've expected Her Majesty and Prince Philip to welcome a fresh pint of Guinness with open arms. But even the expert preparation by a Guinness master brewer in Dublin's Gravity Bar couldn't pique the queen's fancy—she smiled broadly, but declined the beverage, according to the AP. Philip, on the other hand, gazed at the brew with obvious longing. He even jokingly asked the brewer "Is it made with Liffey water?" in reference to Dublin's nearby river, but also walked away without a taste.
The queen is receiving high marks for her dignified conduct during her long-anticipated visit, which included the controversial site of "Bloody Sunday." Over her four-day trip, the queen is still being protected by an exceptionally large security contingent of more than 8,500 police. Much of downtown Dublin was closed to motorists and pedestrians.
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http://www.newser.com/story/119089/princess-beatrices-royal-wedding-hat-hits-130000-in-ebay-auction.html
Bids for Beatrice's Awful Hat at $130K
And rising. Count your pennies.
By Polly Davis Doig, Newser Staff
Posted May 21, 2011 9:50 AM CDT
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(Newser) – Humanity might be doomed, rapture or no rapture: The bids on eBay are currently up to about $130,000 for that thing, er, "unique sculptural celebratory headpiece," that Princess Beatrice wore to the royal wedding. But get your bids in soon, reports the AP, as the auction ends tomorrow. Proceeds go to UNICEF and Children in Crisis. Check out the auction here (http://cgi.ebay.com/Princess-Beatrice-Royal-Wedding-Hat-Philip-Treacy-/230620500557?pt=Women_s_Accessories_UK&hash=item35b20d924d) , or get yourself a knockoff for about 10 bucks here. (http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A6%257C72%253A4726&rt=nc&_nkw=princess+beatrice+hat&_sticky=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_sop=3&_sc=1)
;D
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http://www.popeater.com/2011/05/23/princess-beatrice-hat-sold/
Princess Beatrice's
Royal Wedding Hat
Sells for Over $130,000
PopEater Staff
Posted May 23rd 2011 03:30AM
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Princess Beatrice's fascinator, which she wore for the Royal Wedding, has been auctioned off for over $130,000.
E! Online (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b243345_princess_beatrices_wacky_royal_wedding.html) is reporting that the (in)famous hat, which was put on eBay for auction, was sold on Sunday for a staggering £81,100.01 (approximately $131,000+).
The money raised through the auction will be donated to UNICEF UK and Children in Crisis through Princess Beatrice's Little Bee Initiative campaign.
The proud new owner of the Philip Treacy creation was not revealed, as eBay said that the winner was an anonymous bidder.
The headpiece was an instant eye catcher and grabbed headlines around the world. It even has its own Facebook page and has been compared to everything from a giant pretzel to a toilet seat.
In the eBay description, Princess Beatrice wrote, "I've been amazed by the amount of attention the hat has attracted. It's a wonderful opportunity to raise as much money as possible for two fantastic charities. I hope whoever wins the auction has as much fun with the hat as I have."
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Meanwhile....
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/25/world/europe/25prexy.html?hp
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The Obamas met Prince William and Catherine, the
Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, at Buckingham Palace
in London on Tuesday.
In Britain, Pomp but Serious Business Too
By MARK LANDLER
10 minutes ago
LONDON — President Obama was welcomed to Britain by Queen Elizabeth II on Tuesday with full pomp and ceremony at Buckingham Palace, as the Scots Guards’ band played the “The Star-Spangled Banner” and the 41 booms of a royal salute resounded across the palace gardens.
The ceremony inaugurated a two-day state visit by the American president, rich in pageantry but shadowed by concerns over the stalemate in Libya, the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan and deepening tensions between the Israelis and Palestinians.
The queen and Mr. Obama emerged on to the west terrace of the palace just after 12:30, under a bright sky with a brisk wind that ruffled the bearskin hats on the heads of the honor guard. The first lady, Michelle Obama, walked with Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh.
After the playing of the American national anthem, Mr. Obama and Prince Philip reviewed the Scots Guard, while the queen and Mrs. Obama watched from the terrace, putting their heads together to chat.
In a rare gesture, the queen has invited the Obamas to stay at Buckingham Palace while in London and a palace official told reporters that she gave them a tour of their six-room suite, used by Prince William and Kate Middleton on the night of the wedding.
“It may not be the same bed; it is the same suite,” said the aide, who, by custom, asked not to be identified by name.
Mr. and Mrs. Obama met briefly with the newlywed couple before stepping outside for the arrival ceremony, which was attended by Prince Charles and his wife, the Duchess of Cornwall.
With its ruffles and flourishes, Mr. Obama’s state visit to Britain is meant to underline its “special relationship” with the United States, even if that phrase has sometimes suggested more warmth and sympathy than actually exists between two strong-minded allies.
Mr. Obama and the British prime minister, David Cameron, prefer calling it an “essential relationship,” a phrase they road-tested in a joint op-ed piece published Tuesday in The Times of London. Whether in Libya, Afghanistan, Sudan or fighting pirates off the Horn of Africa, the two leaders wrote, the United States and Britain are united by shared national interests.
“We can honestly say that despite being two leaders from two different political traditions, we see eye to eye,” Mr. Obama and Mr. Cameron wrote. “We look at the world in a similar way, share the same concerns, and see the same strategic possibilities.”
Indeed, as some British commentators have pointed out, aside from their youth, there is little natural affinity between Mr. Obama, the community organizer from Chicago, and Mr. Cameron, the conservative leader from a privileged background of private clubs.
Yet American officials insist that Mr. Obama gets along well with Mr. Cameron, talking regularly to him about the Libyan campaign, the Middle East peace process and other issues.
“They have a very, very effective relationship,” said Elizabeth Sherwood-Randall, a senior director at the National Security Council. “The president and David Cameron have an ongoing conversation.”
The two men will have a lot to talk about, not least the NATO bombing campaign in Libya, which escalated sharply on Tuesday morning, with heavy bombing raids in Tripoli, concentrated around the command compound of the Libyan leader, Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi.
Mr. Obama is also expected to explain his latest proposal for breaking the impasse in Middle East peace talks — a formal endorsement of Israel’s pre-1967 borders, adjusted to account Jewish settlements in the West Bank, as the starting point for talks over a Palestinian state.
Europeans, which have been more receptive than the United States to a Palestinian campaign to win international recognition for a new state, generally welcomed Mr. Obama’s initiative.
The diplomatic business of the visit will mostly be conducted Wednesday, when Mr. Obama has a formal meeting with Mr. Cameron. But the two will meet briefly on Tuesday, and Mr. Obama is also expected to sit down with the leader of the Labour opposition, Ed Miliband.
On Tuesday evening, the queen is to host a state dinner for Mr. Obama. Sticklers for protocol are watching to see what gifts the Obamas present to her. Some eyebrows were raised in 2009 when Mr. Obama presented her with an iPod. There was no word on gifts from either the White House or Buckingham Palace.
Likewise, Mrs. Obama ruffled a few feathers by putting her hand on the queen’s back — an inappropriate gesture to a monarch — though the two women were said to get along famously.
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Does the Queen actually carry anything in her handbag? ???
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LOOK at the name
of the co-author! :o :o
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http://www.amazon.com/Whats-Queens-Handbag-Other-Secrets/dp/1846241944
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LOOK at the name
of the co-author! :o :o
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http://www.amazon.com/Whats-Queens-Handbag-Other-Secrets/dp/1846241944
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/24/michelle-obama-england-state-dinner-dress-tom-ford_n_866415.html#s282899
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Thanks, John! Those are sumptuous pictures. Love all the diamond jewelry. Obama and the Queen look so cute together. I think they have a real liking for each other. 8)
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The Duchess of Cambridge wore a dress with the hemline above the knee! :o
What is the world coming to? :o
;D
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The Duchess of Cambridge wore a dress with the hemline above the knee! :o
What is the world coming to? :o
;D
For a second I thought you meant the Duchess of Cornwall. Now that would be a sign of the Apocalypse! ;D
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For a second I thought you meant the Duchess of Cornwall. Now that would be a sign of the Apocalypse! ;D
Or the RAPTURE??
Oops!
It was pretty windy
in London, too...
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Be still my fluttering heart!
I need a fan!
http://lifestyle.aol.co.uk/2011/06/07/prince-harry-and-pippa-middletons-secret-date/
Prince Harry and Pippa Middleton's secret date
By Ceri Roberts
Jun 7, 2011
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It was impossible to ignore the chemistry between Prince Harry and Pippa Middleton at the Royal Wedding, and we've been speculating about whether they could be more than just good friends ever since.
Now it seems that they've been spending some cosy afternoons together and it's starting to look like romance could be on the cards after all.
Last week they met up for a secret date at The Troubador pub in London's Chelsea, where they spent the afternoon drinking tea and eating muffins with jam.
One regular told The People newspaper: "Pippa and Harry were most certainly here last week. They sat together and had afternoon tea and cakes.
"They were alone, with no one else near to them. Everyone left them alone as this is the sort of place you can come to and escape from the rest of the world when you are inside.
"Harry has actually been here on three of four separate occasions now. He seems to like the place and normally enjoys a beer. But last Thursday with Pippa, they were both eating muffins and drinking tea. It was quiet a quiet afternoon when they were here. Nobody bothered them.
"Harry just comes across as a normal kind of guy who likes to keep himself to himself and Pippa seemed happy to be spending some time with him. Hopefully they'll both be here again."
Although Pippa is rumoured to be on the verge of getting engaged to her City broker boyfriend - and friend of Prince William - Alex Loudon, she recently enjoyed a holiday in Madrid with her ex-boyfriend George Percy.
Prince Harry's on-off relationship with Chelsy Davy - who is a good friend of Pippa's - is now said to be officially over after she decided that she didn't want to compromise her independence by marrying into the royal family.
There's little doubt that Harry has a soft spot for Kate's little sister. He reportedly whispered: "You do look very beautiful today - seriously" to Pippa as he walked her back up the aisle at Westminster Abbey and they exchanged flirty looks as they stood next to each other on the balcony of Buckingham Palace.
So it looks like Alex Loudon has got some competition and Pippa seems to be loving the attention.
Who knows, maybe there could there be another Royal Wedding on the horizon...
http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=130743
Prince Harry and Chelsy Davy split, again -
Is that woman Pippa Middleton up to something?
HollywoodLife.com (http://HollywoodLife.com)
1 June 2011
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Chelsy Davy in happier days with her prince
On-and-off couple Prince Harry and Chelsy Davy have split yet again –and Harry’s new gorgeous sister-in-law, Pippa Middleton may be to blame!
“[Chelsy] saw the way that he was flirting with Pippa Middleton at the wedding, and it’s only natural that she felt pangs of jealousy,” a source tells In Touch, adding that the siblings-in-law have been talking on the phone since the wedding, adding insult to injury.
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Aside from Harry’s budding relationship with Pippa, Chelsy wasn’t too happy with ongoing rumors that perennial partier Harry had a wandering eye and cheated on her — which she heard throughout the course of their tumultuous seven-year relationship. “Harry will never be the faithful type,” the source tells In Touch.
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Prince Harry and that woman, Pippa Middleton
But even if Harry did want to take a cue from his brother and make an honest woman out of Chelsy — who’s often photographed falling out of London nightclubs after nights of partying — she wouldn’t be interested, claims In Touch’s source.
“Chelsy doesn’t want to live her life in a fishbowl,” says the source. “Even if Harry were to propose she’d say no. She doesn’t want to be a princess … [Kate Middleton] knows how to play the game, and she says all the right things. Chelsy is more of a free spirit.”
Meanwhile, naughty-by-nature Harry isn’t particularly upset about the split. “Harry knows that with his looks, charm and title, he can have practically any woman he wants, so he figures, why not play the field?”
In fact, Harry’s particularly interested in snagging an American girl next! “He wants to go to L.A. with Wills and Kate in July…He wants to conquer all of the leading ladies in Hollywood!”
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I need a fan!
(Raises hand.) Aw, John, I've been a fan of yours for years now! ;D
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(Raises hand.) Aw, John, I've been a fan of yours for years now! ;D
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Oh, Sir, you honor me! Tee-hee!
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Oh, Sir, you honor me! Tee-hee!
:laugh:
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Oh, Sir, you honor me! Tee-hee!
Where do you find these things?!?!?! :laugh:
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(Raises hand.) Aw, John, I've been a fan of yours for years now! ;D
Aw....that's sweet! ;D
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I meant to post this before, but--
is this the longest walk down the
aisle, or what! And the Charles Parry
processional ('I Was Glad') makes it
worse, somehow--yike!!
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:o :o :o
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I thought Diana's walk was longer. Personally I thought "how lopsided she is!" I'm so glad I escorted my daughter down the aisle along with her father. After all, I gave birth to her!
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http://www.popeater.com/2011/06/22/prince-harry-pippa-middleton/
Are Prince Harry and Pippa Middleton
Close to Becoming a Couple?
By Christo Varghese
Posted Jun 22nd 2011 05:00AM
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It has been reported that Prince Harry and Pippa Middleton are on the verge of becoming a couple. Grazia UK (via the Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2006057/Prince-Harry-nicknames-Pippa-Middleton-Commando.html) ) is reporting that Harry and Middleton have met a few times since the Royal Wedding in April and already have nicknames for each other.
Middleton reportedly calls Harry 'Captain,' which is his rank in the British army and Harry calls her 'Commando,' a reference to the rumors that Middleton was not wearing any underwear at the Royal Wedding.
Harry also reportedly ended his best man's speech with the line, "Pippa, call me."
A royal insider is quoted saying that the couple have been helping each other through their respective breakups.
Pippa recently split from her long time beau, Alex Loudon, and Harry's relationship with his longtime on-again, off-again girlfriend Chelsea Davy is reportedly strained.
The insider is quoted saying, "They speak on the phone all the time and have met up at least five times since the wedding, once for tea at his Clarence House apartments... She thinks he's got a really cheeky sense of humor."
Another source is also quoted saying, "He only recently came out of a relationship, of course. He's been trying to cheer Pippa up."
The couple have been more public about their budding relationship; Harry and Middleton turned heads when they were seen recently at a restaurant in London where they spent a couple of hours talking.
Could there be a second Windsor-Middleton Royal Wedding on the horizon?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2006057/Prince-Harry-nicknames-Pippa-Middleton-Commando.html
'I call him Captain and he calls me Commando':
Are 'close friends' Harry and Pippa on the verge
of becoming an item?
By Lauren Paxman
Last updated at 8:15 PM on 22nd June 2011
They are both recently single, and became the UK’s second most talked about couple after joking around on Buckingham Palace’s balcony at the Royal Wedding...
It’s too good to be true, but could Pippa Middleton and Prince Harry be on the verge of becoming an item?
The couple have reportedly met up a handful of times since their siblings got married in April and are said to already have nicknames for each other.
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Cheeky sense of humour: Pippa and Harry joked around on the balcony
on Buckingham Palace at the Royal Wedding
A royal insider told Grazia that the couple have been helping each other through their break-ups, saying: ‘They speak on the phone all the time and have met up at least five times since the wedding, once for tea at his Clarence House apartments... She thinks he’s got a really cheeky sense of humour.’
They have also gone more public with their budding friendship. The pair turned heads when they turned up at The Troubadour in Chelsea for a hushed tete-a-tete. They stayed in the royal haunt for two hours.
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Close friends: Despite their busy schedules, Pippa and Harry have met up
and handful of times since their siblings got married
Another source said: ‘He only recently came out of a relationship, of course. He’s been trying to cheer Pippa up.’
We wouldn’t expect anything less from the perfect gentleman.
But if Harry really is interested, he’ll have to join the queue. Now that her long term boyfriend, Alex Loudon, is reportedly off the scene, many of Pippa’s exes have been thrown back into the limelight.
George Percy is currently seen as the most likely replacement. He accompanied Pippa and her friends to Madrid shortly after the wedding, and has offered her a job in his environmental firm.
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Another contender for Commando? Pippa Middleton went to watch the
tennis at Queen's Club with her ex, and boss, George Percy
Last week the couple were spotted house hunting together at exclusive London property giant, Grosvenor Estates - sparking speculation that they are going to move in together.
Other men apparently after a piece of Pippa include her old friend singer James Blunt, and Prince William’s close friend, Barts nightclub owner Charlie Gilkes - as well as most of the male cast of Made in Chelsea (http://www.e4.com/chelsea/).
Pippa has got her pick of the crop, so will she go for a prince or a pop star?
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OMG Harry and Pippa would make such a HOT couple! :o
BTW, I've noticed at least one bridal shop here in Philadelphia--I pass it on my way to shop for groceries--that has a knock-off of Kate's wedding dress in the window.
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OMG Harry and Pippa would make such a HOT couple! :o
And maybe here is--a slightly less hot couple? ::)
(And why do I know that Lashawn Malone would have been perfect for Albert? Princess Lashawn! :laugh: )
Sidebar:
The Other Royal Wedding??
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/23/fashion/charlene-wittstock-and-monaco-prepare-for-royal-wedding.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
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The Quiet Royal Wedding
By ELAINE SCIOLINO
Published: June 22, 2011
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KEEPSAKES Memorabilia for the July 2 royal wedding is prominent in stores.
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Charlene Wittstock competing in the South African national championships in 2004.
PARIS
FOR four years, Charlene Wittstock lived mostly in the shadows, waiting for Prince Albert II of Monaco to propose.
With no job, no college degree and no knowledge of French, she was installed by him in a small apartment in the center of the tiny Mediterranean principality, far away from home in South Africa. With no official status, she appeared at the side of the prince when summoned, to smile a lot but to say little.
She endured the nastiness of the locals, who gossiped about Prince Albert’s love affairs and predicted that he would never marry her. She stayed silent as stories were embellished about his siring of two children, one with an airline hostess from Togo, the other with an American tourist from California. She bided her time by swimming, gardening, lunching, playing golf and reading in a cafe.
But Ms. Wittstock, a South African national swimming champion who competed in the 2000 Summer Olympics, applied to her love life the same determination, perseverance and stamina that had inspired her backstroke.
“There was meanness, there were jealousies,” said Stéphane Bern, a celebrity French journalist who has known her for four years. “There was the indecision of the prince. Her every move was watched and judged. But she is very strong, very natural and very direct. And it worked.”
The payoff comes July 2 with this summer’s “other” royal wedding. This time, Ms. Wittstock will be the princess stepping down the aisle (in a dress designed by Giorgio Armani). Though the event won’t come close to inspiring the global fascination of William and Kate’s nuptials almost two months ago (or even that of Albert’s own parents, Prince Ranier III and the American movie star Grace Kelly, in 1956), the three-day celebration will nonetheless be quite a party. The event will include an open-air Mass on the Place du Palais; oceans of Perrier-Jouët Champagne; a multicourse dinner by the three-star French chef Alain Ducasse; a concert by the Eagles; a sound-and-light show and fireworks. When it is over, Ms. Wittstock, the daughter of a salesman father and a swim coach mother, will become Her Serene Highness, Princess Charlene of Monaco.
There are familiar elements of Ms. Wittstock’s experience in the story not only of Kate Middleton (pretty and patient commoner who endured snippy tabloid gossip and in the end got her prince), but also in the sadder tale of another princess: Like Diana Spencer three decades ago, she is a much younger bride of a prince with other love interests, who has been painstakingly choreographed by a palace apparatus intent on managing her image. A new episode of the soap opera will begin after the wedding. Will her royal marriage end up being a happy union based on mutual love and respect, as Kate’s seems to be so far, or a melancholy charade like Diana’s?
As with many princesses, Ms. Wittstock’s main responsibility from the outset will be to produce an heir. Although she is only 33, Prince Albert is 53, and his subjects do not want him to die before a successor is old enough to reign. (Because Prince Albert’s two children were born out of wedlock, they are barred by the Constitution from acceding to the throne.)
Ms. Wittstock has been reluctant to talk about the baby issue. Asked during an interview by the veteran French television journalist Patrick Poivre d’Arvor whether she wanted to have children who will one day succeed Prince Albert, she broke with protocol and said to the prince, “Hey, won’t he just give us a break!”
The savvy prince smoothed things over, saying, “We have the intention to start a family.”
Asked in the same interview whether she was afraid of protocol and the relentless glare of the press, she choked. “No, I am not nervous, or ... I’m quite excited actually, so ...” she said. She then turned to Prince Albert, asking, “What do you want me to say?”
“No, it’s fine!” he assured her.
Stumbles not withstanding, ever since their engagement last year, Ms. Wittstock has been preparing feverishly for her new role, with intensive lessons in French and palace protocol. Tutored, watched and corrected by an unforgiving palace guard, she has said little during her public appearances. She has granted few interviews. In at least some cases, journalists have been required to submit both written questions in advance and then the text of the interview before publication. The palace declined a request to interview her for this article.
“I thought she was one of the most anxious people I have ever met,” said Jenny Crwys-Williams, who interviewed Ms. Wittstock for South Africa’s popular Talk Radio 702 in February. “She was absolutely terrified of saying the wrong thing and falling foul of the terrible women in the palace.
“There was a fascinating moment when I asked her to tell me about an amazing blue room in the palace, and she said, ‘I don’t know if I can talk about it.’ I wanted to put my arms around her and tell her it would be all right.”
Ms. Wittstock has been both praised and vilified for appearing to imitate the style of Albert’s mother, who died in a car crash in 1982. Ms. Wittstock sometimes wears the same blond chignon, muted colors, and elegant, tailored dresses as did Princess Grace.
Before-and-after style photos of Ms. Wittstock have appeared on the Internet, with speculation about whether she has changed her teeth, breasts, eyes and nose. A recent post, under “new lips Charlene,” shows her on the cover of the German tabloid magazine Bunte with what appears to be a fuller upper lip than is evident in previous photos.
No strangers to tabloid snipes, Prince Albert’s sisters, Princesses Caroline and Stéphanie, have taken Ms. Wittstock under their wings. In an interview with Paris Match, Princess Stéphanie described Ms. Wittstock as “strong” but “very sensitive.” She added, “I try to reassure her. To help her.”
In a moment of candor in an interview with Tatler magazine last year, Ms. Wittstock acknowledged the difficulty of living in a fishbowl like Monaco, which is about half the size of Central Park. “The people I mixed with in Monaco didn’t relate to my South African mentality or humor,” she said. “Of course, I’ve been subject to jealousy, but that comes with the territory. Although I have met some wonderful people since I’ve been living in Monaco, I regard them all as acquaintances. I only have two people I consider friends here.”
In private, she is said to be blunt and direct. “She speaks very frankly to people,” Mr. Bern said. “She tells Albert, ‘I want this, I don’t want that.’ ”
Even after four years living in the principality, she seems uncomfortable speaking French, a shortcoming that has limited her social circle. (Prince Albert, who spent time with his mother’s family in the United States while growing up and studied at Amherst College, speaks flawless English.)
“Her inability to speak French is going to be a real handicap,” said Joe Little, managing editor of the London-based Majesty magazine. “Princess Maxima of the Netherlands came from the Argentine, picked up Dutch and became very popular. The former Mary Donaldson, who became crown princess of Denmark, came to grips with the Danish language quickly.”
Ms. Wittstock’s effort to try a few phrases in French in the interview with Mr. Poivre d’Arvor backfired. When he asked her whether the fact that she was not a Catholic was an obstacle to marriage in the Roman Catholic principality, she replied, “Je suis Christian.”
“Chrétienne, voilà, chrétienne,” he replied, correcting her. (She has since converted to Catholicism, the official religion of Monaco.)
Ms. Wittstock first met Albert in 2000 at a swimming competition in Monaco. A sportsman who for years occupied a spot on Monaco’s Olympic bobsled team, the prince was obviously taken with her.
She has said that as princess, she will devote herself to charitable causes, perhaps involving children and sports. She also has expressed the hope that she can help modernize the 900-year-old principality. She says would like to see Monaco have a Manolo Blahnik boutique and a Starbucks, for example. “She’s a girl in a gilded cage,” Ms. Crwys-Williams said. “Albert looks at her with great affection. She’s going to look beautiful in her Armani dress. But where the real girl is? That I really don’t know.”
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I feel sorry for Charlene Wittstock. The Prince of Monaco is an aging playboy, his looks long gone, the only thing going for him is his name and status and money. He hasn't married for years because he didn't have to. He had women throwing themselves at him for free and he's been indulging himself. Now, falling testosterone levels and age are catching up with him and he thinks he'd better settle down and try to have legitimate heirs - if he still can. I highly doubt he will be faithful to Ms. Wittstock.
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Princess Charlene? Oh, dear. ... ::)
Her idea of "modernization" is a Starbucks and a Manolo Blahnik store?
She's been a "kept woman" in Monaco for four years (no job)?
And she hasn't picked up French?
This marriage is going to be a disaster.
I feel sorry for her, too. :(
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Her idea of "modernization" is a Starbucks and a Manolo Blahnik store?
See, I was right--it should be Princess Lashawn instead of Charlene! :laugh:
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I don't feel sorry for her.. she clearly knew what she was getting in to.. she's chosen her life... perhaps she's quite happy with it?
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See, I was right--it should be Princess Lashawn instead of Charlene! :laugh:
I guess she'll want to keep Monaco together with chewing gum and baling wire. ...
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Beats her old job at Neiman Marcus. ;D
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I don't feel sorry for her.. she clearly knew what she was getting in to.. she's chosen her life... perhaps she's quite happy with it?
I feel sorry for her in the way she's wasted herself, being kept, waiting for an aged libertine to decide he wants to marry her.
Waiting for scraps like a dog waiting for her master to throw her a bone.
Pathetic.
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I feel sorry for her in the way she's wasted herself, being kept, waiting for a aged libertine to decide he wants to marry her.
Waiting for scraps like a dog waiting for her master to throw her a bone.
Pathetic.
If she considers a Starbucks and a Manolo Blahnik shoe store to be "modernization," maybe there wasn't much there to waste. 8)
She's not getting any sympathy from me. It's not like they were keeping her a prisoner in Monaco.
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On the NBC news last evening, a correspondent was reporting on Will and Kate's visit to California. The correspondent had occasion to refer to Will's great-grandmother, who was, of course, the late and much-loved Queen Elizabeth "the Queen Mum," the wife of King George VI and the mother of the current sovereign. Anyway, the correspondent referred to the late Queen Mum as "Queen Elizabeth the First."
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Elizabeth Tudor would NOT be amused. ;D
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On the NBC news last evening, a correspondent was reporting on Will and Kate's visit to California. The correspondent had occasion to refer to Will's great-grandmother, who was, of course, the late and much-loved Queen Elizabeth "the Queen Mum," the wife of King George VI and the mother of the current sovereign. Anyway, the correspondent referred to the late Queen Mum as "Queen Elizabeth the First."
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Elizabeth Tudor would NOT be amused. ;D
D'oh! A good argument for better education in this country. :P ::)
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On the NBC news last evening, a correspondent was reporting on Will and Kate's visit to California. The correspondent had occasion to refer to Will's great-grandmother, who was, of course, the late and much-loved Queen Elizabeth "the Queen Mum," the wife of King George VI and the mother of the current sovereign. Anyway, the correspondent referred to the late Queen Mum as "Queen Elizabeth the First."
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Elizabeth Tudor would NOT be amused. ;D
Did the (irony, here) 'anchor' correct the (heavy irony here) 'correspondent'? :P :P
D'oh! A good argument for better education in this country. :P ::)
I despair. (No irony.)
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Did the (irony, here) 'anchor' correct the (heavy irony here) 'correspondent'? :P :P
Nope.
To be fair, the comment went by so quickly that I wouldn't be surprised if even a lot of people who "know better" missed it.
I despair. (No irony.)
Yeah. Even the kids on Kid Jeopardy! this past week were no great shakes at American history, so I would not hold out much hope for knowledge of English history.
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Arriving by stage coach and wearing white ten gallon hats, the Duke and
Duchess of Cambridge made a colourful entrance to the Calgary Stampede
exhibition centre
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Kate, the Duchess of Cambridge, attends a rodeo demonstration at the
Calgary Stampede on Thursday, July 7, 2011, in Calgary, Alberta.
(Nathan Denette / AP)
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http://www.gossipcop.com/william-kate-rodeo-pictures-white-cowboy-hats-calgary-july-7-photos-pics/
William & Kate
Dress Up as Cowboys
in Calgary
9:00 am, July 8th, 2011
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Prince William and Duchess Kate made a momentary faux pas on their visit to Calgary yesterday, initially declining to wear the city’s traditional white cowboy hats upon arrival.
Calgary’s mayor Naheed Nenshi presented the couple with special Smithbilt hats, which have been given to visiting dignitaries for decades, but William and Kate didn’t put them on at the airport, as is custom.
Fortunately, the royals donned the hats – and other conventional garb – while attending a rodeo show later on Thursday.
The lesson, as always?
When in Calgary, do as the Calgarians do.
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(Sorry, Roland and Gil, but WHICH one is Stephen Harper
again, the one in the immediate foreground??)
::) :laugh:
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"Well, this is different," the prince said with a laugh as he touched the tip of his cowboy hat at a reception Thursday night. "We have been hugely struck by the diversity of this beautiful country: from Ottawa to Quebec; from Prince Edward Island to the Northwest Territories; and now the excitement of Calgary — and what about these fantastic white hats."
Go here for a really nice set of photos from Will and Kate in Calgary:
http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/William-Kate-don-cowboy-hats-in-Calgary-1457062.php
I have to say--of course, everyone is kvelling over Kate, but--Will has really been kind of fantastic. Think of his racist old grandfather (Philip), the oblivious stuffed shirt father (Charles) and the truly despicable 'Uncle Andy' (ugh) compared to Will's manifest kindness, good humor and grace. No unctious goody-goody, but a genuinely nice man.
I know it's trite to say it, but--he's Diana's son.
(But still--endearing as it is, he HAS to work to improve that atrocious French accent--yike!)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/jul/10/philip-treacy-milliner-interview
Philip Treacy:
'I like hats that make the heart beat faster'
The milliner to the stars talks about the royal wedding,
Isabella Blow and Lady Gaga wanting an internship…
By Kate Kellaway
The Observer
Sunday 10 July 2011
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Philip Treacy: ‘We’ll look back and think Princess Beatrice looked wild.’
Photograph: Jonathan Player/Rex Features
You are collaborating with Tate Liverpool to curate Conversation Pieces, about art that has inspired you. How much has painting influenced your hat-making?
Totally – you need to know about the past to work in the future. I like futurism but I also love exquisite, beautiful things. We are all art historians. Tate wanted me to curate an exhibition from their archive – but I stretched it a bit. I would go to someone's house and ask: can I borrow that? And I'd leave with a £1m Damien Hirst that looked like black sugar and turned out to be black flies in a frame. I love Damien Hirst. And Andy Warhol. And I have some personal pieces in the show, too, like an 1850s sleigh from Russia that I bought from Sotheby's – it is my Ferrari – with old Russian shoes in the back of it.
How many painted hats are in the show?
None – but there are three photos of hats. [He points to a black-and-white Stephen Meisel photograph of Isabella Blow, his great friend, model and muse, who killed herself in 2007. She is wearing a horsehair helmet.] Meisel made her look incredible – like a 1920s Lartigue. Isabella belonged to the 20s – we were lucky to have her in the 21st century. When have you ever heard of someone in the fashion business having a heart? She was fun, unbureaucratic, generous. And she had a good heart. She introduced me to everything I know.
You must miss her…
Yes – every day. She invented me. We were like Bill and Bert. I made the hats, she wore them…
And didn't she have one of your hats on her coffin?
A pheasant hat. Isabella believed a good funeral is like a great wedding. But when you go, you go. You only go once. She loved this pheasant. She said: "I want to be buried in it." So we buried her in it…
Does a person carry off a hat or a hat carry off a person?
A person carries off the hat. Hats are about emotion. It is all about how it makes you feel. I like hats that make the heart beat faster.
Were you hurt by the rude things said about the hat you designed for Princess Beatrice at the royal wedding (turkey twizzler, lavatory seat, pretzel)?
I felt hurt for her. She is only 22 and there was a little bit of bullying going on. I didn't give a fuck about 140,000 bloggers. In the future, we'll look back and think she looked wild.
Is a hat's design dictated by a person's character?
Of course – Princess Beatrice is Queen Victoria's great, great, great, great granddaughter and looks like Queen Victoria. I thought of her as a beautiful, exotic, Victorian doll. I thought I was making a hat with a bow on it.
The wedding was the Philip Treacy show with more than 30 of your hats - what did you think of the wedding?
I hadn't slept for three days but it was incredible – a populist moment of emotion. I couldn't be more Irish but I celebrate Britishness through hats. When I met the Queen, at a design evening at Buckingham Palace, she asked: "What do you do?" "I make hats, ma'am." She said: "Am I the only person who wears a hat these days?" And I said: "Ma'am, you have kept hats alive in the imagination of people all over the world." When you meet the Queen, you are not supposed to ask questions. But I thought: what the hell. So I looked her in the eye and said: "Ma'am, do you enjoy wearing hats?" And she stood back and said: "It is part of the uniform."
You were famous for your dog, the late Mr Pig. You wouldn't be without a Jack Russell, would you?
Jack Russells are the most interesting "people". Now I have Archie and TJ. I bought this miniature Jack Russell and called him Tiny James. But he started unexpectedly to grow and grow and now looks like a goat. He's gorgeous.
Is it true Lady Gaga wants to do an internship with you?
She plans to. She's already visited me. This is what happened: one Monday morning, four burly bodyguards arrived – Lady Gaga's security team – to check out the security of the building. I looked at them as if to say: what?! Who is going to take a pot shot at Lady Gaga? Anyway, she is young, talented and peculiar – which I like. The Brit awards were the next night and she said to her people (I loved this): "Can somebody buy me some brown underwear for tomorrow?"
Let us go to the village of Ahascragh in County Galway where you were born and, aged six, started sewing. What did you sew?
At home, I had seven brothers, one sister. I sewed clothes for my sister's dolls although she was grown and gone away. I was a weirdo but didn't think I was a weirdo…
Did you know, as a child, you were gay?
Of course. You know. It is nature not nurture.
The Irish have got something special. What is it?
Romance. I love the romance of what I do, although because of Isabella, Lady Gaga and Grace Jones, people think I have crazy customers. Sometimes I get more enthusiasm from the housewife who wants a hat and believes in it.
But you get enthusiasm from the stars too…
A couple of years ago, I got a phone call: would Mr Treacy make a hatpin for Elizabeth Taylor? I said: "Might Miss Taylor like a hat to go with the hatpin?" and the answer was: yes. I went to see her at the Dorchester. I didn't know whether I was going to be dealing with a very tricky person but she was a sweetheart. I thought it would be entertaining to do a hat show on her in her room – because, after all, she is an old lady. I tried 25 hats on her. She kept saying: "Which hat can I have"? And at the end I said: "You can have them all." I gave her 25 hats. She said: "I must do something for you in return." But I'd got my return just by hanging out with her.
And you just did the hats for Kate Moss's wedding…
For her mother and mother-in-law. Kate Moss's hair is her hat. I love Kate Moss. Fashion is about illusion and Kate is a brilliant illusionist. People think these people are nightmares but she has goodness – as does David Beckham. We read bullshit about people. My favourite thing about my job is that I get to make up my own mind. "Monsters" often turn out to be the nicest people.
Conversation Pieces, co-curated by Philip Treacy, is at Tate Liverpool from Friday until 19 August
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Thank you, this was very entertaining!
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/12/03/kate_middleton_is_pregnant.html
Everyone Freak Out:
Kate Middleton Is Pregnant!
By Josh Voorhees
Posted Monday, Dec. 3, 2012, at 11:12 AM ET
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Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge is presented with a bouquet of flowers by Jamie Andrew,
aged 7, during her visit to Peterborough City Hospital on November 28, 2012
Prince William and Kate Middleton (or Duchess Catherine, as she is now known in circles that we are clearly not part of) are expecting their first child, the Royal Palace announced Monday.
Tabloids on both sides of the Atlantic had been speculating for the past few weeks that the Duchess was pregnant, but the official confirmation is likely to launch the latest media frenzy around everyone's favorite royal couple.
Here's an early sampling of the apparently earth-shaking news, from the BBC:
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And ABC News:
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To the Daily Mail :
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And TMZ:
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Ha! I vote for "I'm royally knocked up" as my favorite. I'm glad for them, but just hope the pregnancy goes smoothly. It'll be hard enough on them as it is. :P
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I honestly cannot understand why they are referrring to her as Kate MIDDLETON.....that was her name BEFORE she married Prince William
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I honestly cannot understand why they are referrring to her as Kate MIDDLETON.....that was her name BEFORE she married Prince William.
Maybe because "Duchess of Cambridge" makes her sound 80 years old? ;)
And why on earth should anyone freak out because she's pregnant? ???
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... And all I'm thinking is: did she have to undergo medical testing before the wedding? You know, like some insurance companies require health tests/fitness tests before giving you a contract. Did the palace make sure she'll one day carry the next generation, is fit enough to take all the traveling and such?
I'm such a romantic!
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Maybe because "Duchess of Cambridge" makes her sound 80 years old? ;)
And why on earth should anyone freak out because she's pregnant? ???
To Royalists its a very big deal....the forthcoming birth of maybe a new king or queen....and of course something to fill the magazines.....
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... And all I'm thinking is: did she have to undergo medical testing before the wedding? You know, like some insurance companies require health tests/fitness tests before giving you a contract. Did the palace make sure she'll one day carry the next generation, is fit enough to take all the traveling and such?
I'm such a romantic!
I've been in my job entirely too long. Yesterday, as soon as I heard that the duchess was suffering from "excessive morning sickness," the first thing that popped into my head was "hyperemesis gravidarum."
Sure enough, that's what they're calling it on this morning's news shows in the U.S.
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I've been in my job entirely too long. Yesterday, as soon as I heard that the duchess was suffering from "excessive morning sickness," the first thing that popped into my head was "hyperemesis gravidarum."
Sure enough, that's what they're calling it on this morning's news shows in the U.S.
I'm the suspicious kind, and the first thing I thought, was that this "morning sickness" thing was a cover up for her being in there for IVF or something like that.
Ever since the death of Princess Diana I've always been suspicious of what the Royal family could cover up. And when I read that Prince Charles bonked Camilla the night before he married Diana, it made me realise even more, that what you see with the royal family, is not exactly how it is. Everytime I see a clip of Diana and Charle's wedding now, I look at him and know exactly what he did the night before....UGH!!
Dont get me wrong, I still love reading about the Royal family, but I do so now, with a bit of cynicism.
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I've been in my job entirely too long. Yesterday, as soon as I heard that the duchess was suffering from "excessive morning sickness," the first thing that popped into my head was "hyperemesis gravidarum."
Sure enough, that's what they're calling it on this morning's news shows in the U.S.
From Huff Post this morn:
"Solace was found in sleep and sex." -- Word!
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Mary Haft.
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Hyperemesis Gravidarum: A Report From the Trenches
Posted: 12/05/2012 12:05 pm
Vindication. That's the word that comes to mind with the full-scale press that has descended upon the news that Prince William and his wife, Katherine, the Duchess of Cambridge, are expecting their first child and that she is in the hospital for treatment of hyperemesis gravidarum.
Even now, 20 years after the birth of my last child, I am strangely exhilarated by the validation of a medical condition that I suffered with through the pregnancies of all three of my children. I suspect more people than I knew thought I was exaggerating, that morning sickness is routine and I was somehow complaining about an all-too-common condition.
I was the first of my family to become pregnant, the first of most of my friends. About 2.5 years into marriage, worrying that perhaps after years of endometriosis, which I had been diagnosed with at age 18, I might never be able to have children, I had scheduled an appointment with a fertility specialist. Happiness was making that call to cancel, as I found myself pregnant. That glow dimmed as the sickness began.
Within weeks, I found myself plummeted to depths of suffering I had never imagined. Who knew pregnancy caused this? No one I knew had it. This isn't morning sickness. It's morning, noon, and night sickness and every minute in between. Solace was found in sleep and sex. Other than that, every waking second is a battle against a rising tide of crippling nausea that vomiting does not relieve.
Some 26 years after the birth of my first child, I still can't look at wild rice or plain chicken broth. It took me years to be able to eat matzo ball soup, as my mother-in-law, worried sick that I wasn't going to survive this pregnancy, came from dinner at Duke Zeiberts with a big container of soup. Hungry, as I was growing a child in there, I lapped it up. Not 10 minutes later, all of it came back up. Undigested. There is nothing worse than vomiting up undigested food. Whole pieces of it come pouring up in a flood of bile, splashing up in your face. I would shudder with revulsion and then be grateful when vomiting just fluid, not food.
There wasn't a day I felt well. Those pregnancy mothers, basking in the glow of maternal blossoming, were alien to me. In fact, I felt like I was nurturing an alien, a feeling confirmed by a close family friend who, having experienced the same kind of pregnancy, likened it to a parasite. You're the host, they are the organism and as they grow, they're killing you. Remarkably, my babies all got the nourishment they needed, even at my expense. At 5 foot 6 inches, very small-boned and under 110 pounds when I married, my weight dropped precipitously. A doctor's daughter, I prided myself on staying afloat. I knew all about applesauce and bananas and fruit juices to keep the electrolytes up. I tried everything else. Saltines, bread sticks, ginger tea, broth. None of it worked.
With my last child, a daughter after two boys, I lost my grip. Thankfully, one night after falling up the steps, I told my husband to watch out for me. Must have been a sixth sense, or God giving me a nudge, for I don't remember that next day. I only remember opening my eyes, in my own bed, and finding the deeply concerned eyes of dreamy Dr. Heintze looking down at me. Perilously sick, heading into shock, veins collapsing, I ended up on IVs, in my house, for weeks. To compound matters, one of the boys had strep, which I got as well. That necessitated additional infusions. Once a day, a nurse would come, unhook me, help me into a bath, then back into bed. That didn't stop the vomiting or nausea. Now I had to lift the whole contraption over the threshold of the bathroom and squeak my way to the toilet.
By then, there was the suggestion of medication to quell nausea, but I wasn't chancing that. Images of thalidomide babies swam through my head. Four months in, deeply afraid, I called my doctor and said, "I think I'm carrying twins." I was deeply afraid that if that feeling were true, I would lose both babies, as I was so ill. Unhooked from the thread of IVs, my husband took me to the doctor's. A sonogram revealed two small embryos, only one with a beating heart. I don't know how, but I just knew.
Even reading this now I think, "How did I do this three times?"
In fact, I did it five times. I lost two babies in pregnancies that ended, in both cases, at the beginning of the fourth month. In both cases, sonograms showed a perfect baby and we were told we could share our happy news with the world. We were past the point of worry. But what had worried me was that I wasn't sick like the other times. I was nauseated and fatigued, the kind of morning sickness that everyone complains about. But no complaints from me: I could leave my house. I could lead a normal life. Both times I went to my OB-GYN with a feeling that something wasn't right, an uneasiness that life was lost. The first time, I told my husband, called my doctor and went in. There was no sign of anything wrong, just a feeling. In the darkened room, my husband and the doctor laughed together over some shared story, neither worried, as all tests had been perfect. I was the one staring at the screen as the sonogram wand moved over my pregnant belly quietly, saying, "I don't see a heartbeat." The room stilled. The baby was lost.
The second time I didn't tell my husband. Waking on the morning of Yom Kippur, the day in the Jewish religion where one is written in the Book of Life, I had a deeply uneasy, sad feeling that something was wrong. I am Catholic, my husband Jewish, but I knew that on this day, I needed to check to make sure my baby would be written in the Book of Life. Alone I went. This time the doctor wasn't joking around; we both knew that it was a possibility. Even though, same as last time, every test looked perfect and the previous sonogram had showed a healthy fetus, I just wasn't as sick. But it was more than that. It was some deeply-rooted, intuitive connection to this beginning life that shadowed my visit. And my fears were confirmed with this final sonogram that again showed that tiny fetus with a heart now stilled.
In the end, hyperemesis was my salvation. My body's way of maintaining and preserving life.
Michael was born at 8 pounds, 21 inches. My first baby, first birth, first experience with natural childbirth, with no anesthesia. I didn't go into it intending to be brave; 26 years ago, epidurals commonly caused nausea and vomiting. During one of my last OB visits, the female doctor sympathetically nodded, recalling how she vomited during the labor and birth of her baby. That was enough for me. I could take pain, I just couldn't bear another minute of nausea and vomiting. I had no idea. Hours in, there was a millisecond moment when I thought I would mentally splinter from the pain, imagining myself fracturing all over the walls. In that millisecond I pulled myself back up, concentrated on a spot on the wall and just breathed.
Here is the miracle: The minute the baby was out of my body, illness was gone. I felt fabulous, on top of the world, a high like no other. A healthy, perfect baby boy was born. And with his birth, like the snap of a finger -- the cessation of sickness -- an instant return to exuberant health. And so it was for each of my babies. Michael, Nicholas, Laura. The instant they were born, so was I. Borne into motherhood, each child has been the gift of my life, hyperemesis gravidarum a small price to pay for the immeasurable joy of creating a family.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mary-haft/hyperemesis-gravidarum_b_2244977.html
Hyperemesis Gravidarum: A Report From the Trenches
Mary Haft
Posted: 12/05/2012 12:05 pm
Vindication. That's the word that comes to mind with the full-scale press that has descended upon the news that Prince William and his wife, Katherine, the Duchess of Cambridge, are expecting their first child and that she is in the hospital for treatment of hyperemesis gravidarum.
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K with a Kate, yes, but it is a C with a Catherine when formally styled: Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge (no 'the').
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine,_Duchess_of_Cambridge
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I think the subject TITLE here, should be changed to just .......WILLIAM AND KATE
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Good idea, Sue! It's done, except I kept the wedding reference because of the poll at the top. 8)
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Sad news from England this morn:
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/07/15753452-nurse-at-duchess-kates-hospital-who-was-hoaxed-by-djs-found-dead?lite (http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/07/15753452-nurse-at-duchess-kates-hospital-who-was-hoaxed-by-djs-found-dead?lite)
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Sad news from England this morn:
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/07/15753452-nurse-at-duchess-kates-hospital-who-was-hoaxed-by-djs-found-dead?lite (http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/07/15753452-nurse-at-duchess-kates-hospital-who-was-hoaxed-by-djs-found-dead?lite)
As an Australian, I am deeply saddened and embarrassed that two of my countrymen, decided that a stupid prank would enhance their popularity on a radio show. While I am sure, they never imagined the tragedy that has now unfolded, it is a reminder to all members of the media, that while such antics may be common in their business, they are confronting and upsetting to the victims of this stupidity, and that just because they are members of the media, does not give them the right to cross the line of private and confidential.
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What a shame :( I wonder if her bosses had given her a really hard time over this?
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While I deplore the antics of the media, my suspicious mind once again towards the power of the Royal family, also makes me very cynical.
I cannot help thinking, that this news is just as peculiar and unexpected, as hearing about Princess Diana dying in a car accident.
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While I deplore the antics of the media, my suspicious mind once again towards the power of the Royal family, also makes me very cynical.
I cannot help thinking, that this news is just as peculiar and unexpected, as hearing about Princess Diana dying in a car accident.
I am afraid I do not share your suspicious mind. I have the greatest regard for most of the Royal Family and the greatest dislike of most of the modern media.
I follow the activities of the royals , my admiration for the Queen is absolute but I do not want to know what they eat for breakfast. I never buy a magazine or newspaper to just read about them. All that was necessary and all that would have been covered when I was young was that the princess was expecting and was in hospital. Why on earth did the media need to camp outside for days. Hope they caught cold. I did not need to see a photo of her leaving hospital obviously still not feeling 100%.
I hope and pray all goes well and do not need to know anything further until the day of the birth.
I am glad the 2 radio idiots have been taken off air but guess it will not be for long.
I am very anti practical jokes since early in my teaching career when one group of students threw dried peas over the staff room floor and another put a mouse in a colleagues drawer. The result was an excellent but quite stout female teacher of English was taken to hospital by ambulance, thankfully no lasting injuries.
I dreaded school muck up day for most of my career. Several jokes at my expense were very hurtful before I was able to come out and be openly gay yet the students did not realise how close to the truth they were.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/08/world/europe/nurses-death-stirs-sharp-criticism-of-royal-prank-call.html?_r=0&pagewanted=all
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Prank Call
Seeking Royal Family Secrets
Takes Horrifying Turn
By SARAH LYALL
Published: December 7, 2012
LONDON — As pranks go, this one appeared outrageous and obnoxious rather than malicious: after convincing a hospital nurse who answered the phone this week that they were Queen Elizabeth and Prince Charles, two Australian radio hosts then tricked another nurse into disclosing medical information about the pregnant Duchess of Cambridge, who had been admitted with acute morning sickness.
The call was broadcast on Australia radio; then it went out around the world.
But the stunt took a horrific and unexpected turn on Friday, when the nurse who answered the call, 46-year-old Jacintha Saldanha, was found dead, an apparent suicide.
The Metropolitan Police would not release details of the death, except to say that they had received a call reporting that there was an unconscious woman at Weymouth Street, in central London, and two ambulance crews had arrived to find Mrs. Saldanha already dead. A police spokesman said they were not treating the death as suspicious.
It was unclear what exactly had happened since the prank itself to make Mrs. Saldanha, who was reportedly married and had two children, take her life. King Edward VII’s Hospital, where she worked, said it had not disciplined her, but rather had been “supporting her during this difficult time.” Nor, apparently, had the royal family raised a fuss with the hospital, an exclusive private institution that has long been the hospital of choice for Britain’s royals.
“At no point did the palace complain to the hospital about the incident,” a spokesman for St. James’s Palace said. “On the contrary, we offered our full and heartfelt support to the nurses involved and the hospital staff at all times.”
The turn of events was seen as so shocking that it provoked a response from even the prime minister of Australia, Julia Gillard, who called it “a terrible tragedy.”
Whatever the immediate impetus for Mrs. Saldanha’s death, the episode was a sobering reminder of the harm that can come in a media landscape where the boundaries between news and entertainment are blurred, where hosts and programs find increasingly outrageous ways of attracting attention, often without considering who might be hurt along the way; and where anything out of the ordinary — an embarrassing video, a humiliating audio clip, a bit of foolish behavior — tends to spread quickly via the Internet, and seems to never go away.
Britain’s tabloids have long sought ways to penetrate the royal family’s carapace, to get past the barriers and the press operatives to the humans underneath. In 2007, a News of the World reporter was jailed for hacking into the voice mail of members of the royal household. Four years earlier, The Daily Mirror published a series of photographs of the inside of Buckingham Palace — showing that the queen’s cereal was brought to the table in Tupperware containers and that the Duke of York’s apartment contained stuffed animals and a cushion saying, “Eat, sleep and remarry” — after one of its reporters underhandedly got a job as a royal footman.
And in 1995, a Canadian D.J., pretending to be Jean Chrétien, then the Canadian prime minister, somehow got through to Buckingham Palace and spent 15 minutes talking to the queen about, among other things, Quebec’s referendum on proposals for independence. The palace called the prank “irritating and regrettable.”
The latest breach came courtesy of the Sydney radio station 2Day FM, during a program presented by the D.J.’s Mel Greig and Michael Christian. The station had gotten into trouble before: In 2009, it was reprimanded by the government media watchdog after a 14-year-old girl, brought on the show by her mother, was attached to a lie detector during a live broadcast and asked if she was having sex. She revealed that she had been raped. Last year, the watchdog imposed tough new licensing conditions on the station after one of its hosts called a journalist a “fat slag” and threatened her on the air.
On Tuesday, Ms. Greig took on the role of the queen, while Mr. Christian pretended to be Prince Charles. Telephoning the hospital, Ms. Greig asked to be put through to “my granddaughter Kate” — the duchess, who was being treated for severe morning sickness.
The hospital would not confirm that Mrs. Saldanha was the person who took the call, but reports in the British news media said that she was, and that she had been filling in at the hospital reception desk in the early morning hours. Responding to the person she thought was the queen, she said “Oh, yes — just hold on, ma’am.”
She then transferred the call to a duty nurse, who revealed that the duchess was “stable,” that she had had “an uneventful night,” that she had been given fluids and was sleeping on and off and that she had not been “retching.”
The hospital was fooled, despite the call having been almost laughably amateurish. At one point, for instance, Ms. Greig, playing the queen, asked the fake Charles when he planned to “walk those bloody corgis.” Barking noises could be heard in the background.
When news of the hoax got out, it was condemned as a “foolish prank” by the hospital, which said it would review its telephone procedures. In Australia, the hosts issued an anemic statement saying “we’re sorry if we’ve caused any issues,” even as the station continued to promote the stunt as “the prank call the world is talking about.”
On Twitter, the two D.J.’s bragged about the hoax. Ms. Greig, a former contestant on the Australian version of “The Amazing Race,” told Australian reporters that she was surprised the call had gotten through and had fooled anyone, given her poor English accent. “This is by far the best prank I’ve ever been involved in,” the Adelaide Now newspaper quoted her as saying. “It’s definitely a career highlight.”
By late Friday — early Saturday in Sydney — the station had posted a new statement. It was “deeply saddened by the tragic news of the death of nurse Jacintha Saldanha from King Edward VII’s Hospital,” the statement said. “We extend our deepest sympathies to her family and all that have been affected by this situation around the world.”
The statement added that Mr. Christian and Ms. Greig would remain off the air indefinitely, “out of respect for what only can be described as a tragedy.”
But the apology was met with little sympathy on social media sites. “You weak dogs. You’ve got blood on your hands now,” Aaron Reschke from South Australia wrote on the station’s Facebook page. “Both presenters and their producer should be charged over this woman’s death.”
Back in London, the hospital said that Mrs. Saldanha had been a nurse there for four years. “She was an excellent nurse and well-respected and popular with all of her colleagues,” it said.
In a statement, the chief executive of the Royal College of Nursing, Dr. Peter Carter, said, “It is deeply saddening that a simple human error due to a cruel hoax could lead to the death of a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.”
Matt Siegel contributed reporting from Sydney, Australia.
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Unfortunately, Brian, millions of people do not feel the same as you regarding wanting to know as much as they can about the Royal family. Stories on the Royals are what keep a lot of newspapers and magazines in business, because every little thing they do is of interest to so many people.
Once upon a time people and the media had a respect for people's privacy, but now, because of people's interest, they do and say anything to get a hot story. So its hard to know who is to blame for some media frenzy. Human nature has changed, just like so many other things have changed, and some of it, is not very tasteful.
I too, adore the Queen, she has been exemplorary in her position, but I worry a bit about those who will follow in her footsteps as well as those that work behind the scenes to protect that the monarchy remains where it is.
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I too, adore the Queen, she has been exemplorary in her position, but I worry a bit about those who will follow in her footsteps as well as those that work behind the scenes to protect that the monarchy remains where it is.
And I understand that now the heir (or heiress) to the throne, who may expect to become the Supreme Governor of the Church of England, is no longer prohibited from marrying a Roman Catholic. 8)
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To Royalists its a very big deal....the forthcoming birth of maybe a new king or queen....and of course something to fill the magazines.....
All this confirmed my hunch that being famous can be a major bummer, unless it happens after you're dead. Imagine going through a pregnancy with the whole world commenting on it! 8)
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What a shame :( I wonder if her bosses had given her a really hard time over this?
They might have in private, but this woman also could have had a lot of problems in her personal life, including depression. Being the butt of a practical joke that the entire world knew about could certainly push someone over the edge if they were already having a hard time coping for whatever reason.
And frankly, I'm rather cynical about the station's claim to be "deeply saddened." It smacks of the apologies you sometimes hear from politicians who don't regret the context of their words but are so very, very sorry that there was a negative reaction [e.g., "I apologize to anyone who was offended by my words"]. If this makes someone think twice in the future something constructive might come of it but considering the state of today's "news" media, I tend to doubt it.
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And frankly, I'm rather cynical about the station's claim to be "deeply saddened." It smacks of the apologies you sometimes hear from politicians who don't regret the context of their words but are so very, very sorry that there was a negative reaction [e.g., "I apologize to anyone who was offended by my words"]. If this makes someone think twice in the future something constructive might come of it but considering the state of today's "news" media, I tend to doubt it.
I completely agree with you. This station has been in trouble with the broadcasting authorities before. Unfortunately there is a type of person who willcontinue to listen to their rubbish. At least both the major Australian telco and supermarket chain have withdrawn their advertising. However I expect this will only be until the furore dies down. I only listen to music stations anyway,cannot abide talk radio of any kind.
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http://au.news.yahoo.com/queensland/a/-/latest/15585892/ads-pulled-from-2day-fm-after-royal-prank/
2Day FM responds to social media outrage
Sydney radio station 2Day FM has suspended all on-air advertising until Monday after a nurse involved in a royal prank phone call took her own life in London.
The Sydney radio station behind a royal prank linked to a British nurse's death has pulled all ads from its broadcasts as anger mounts around the world at the tragic turn of events.
Rhys Holleran, the chief executive of Austereo which owns 2Day FM, said the suspected suicide of Jacintha Saldanha, the London nurse who took the prank call, was tragic and the two radio presenters who spoke to her were shattered by the news.
But he said the death of Ms Saldanha, who was on duty at the London hospital treating Prince William's pregnant wife, could not have been reasonably foreseen and that the station had done nothing illegal in recording and broadcasting the phone call.
Mr Holleran's comments came after major advertisers pulled their ads from the station and people flocked to social media to condemn presenters Mel Greig and Michael Christian, who have been taken off air following the death of the 46-year-old nurse and mother of two on Friday.
Austereo said it had pulled all advertising from 2Day FM at least until Monday.
Police in London have said there were no suspicious circumstances surrounding Ms Saldanha's death and it is believed she took her own life.
The tragic turn of events has made headlines around the world as fallout from the prank call intensified.
Ms Saldanha was on duty at London's King Edward VII Hospital earlier this week when Greig and Christian telephoned, impersonating the Queen and Prince Charles and seeking details about the condition of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge.
The prank call was recorded and vetted by lawyers before being broadcast to listeners in Sydney.
Speaking to reporters in Melbourne on Saturday, Mr Holleran said he was confident the station had not broken the law.
"We're satisfied that that procedure was met," he said.
"We're very confident that we haven't done anything illegal. What happened was incredibly tragic and we're deeply saddened and we're incredibly affected by that."
However, Bond University media law expert, Mark Pearson, said the DJs could have broken the law by not telling Ms Saldanha that the call was being recorded.
Professor Pearson said it was normally illegal for someone to record a conversation without the other person knowing unless there was "some overriding public interest".
"Clearly in this case there is not," he said.
Austereo said it was committed to working with any authorities investigating the tragedy.
"Our primary concern at this time is for the family of nurse Saldanha," Mr Holleran said.
He also said he didn't know when the presenters would return, adding that they were deeply shocked and had been offered counselling.
The station and the presenters had decided the show would not return to air until further notice out of respect for Ms Saldanha, he said.
News of the nurse's death was acknowledged by the royal family.
"The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are deeply saddened to learn of the death of Jacintha Saldanha," a statement issued by St James's Palace said.
"Their Royal Highnesses were looked after so wonderfully well at all times by everybody at King Edward VII Hospital, and their thoughts and prayers are with Jacintha Saldanha's family, friends and colleagues at this very sad time."
Hospital chief executive John Lofthouse described Ms Saldanha, married with two children, as a "first-class nurse who cared diligently for hundreds of patients".
A spokeswoman for Prime Minister Julia Gillard described the incident as a "terrible tragedy".
The broadcasting watchdog, the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA), said it would talk to the station about the "facts and issues surrounding the prank call".
In May, ACMA warned 2Day FM it could lose its broadcasting licence for any repeat of offensive on-air comments, after morning show presenter Kyle Sandilands called a female journalist a "fat slag" and threatened to "hunt her down".
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2Day FM responds to social media outrage
Sydney radio station 2Day FM has suspended all on-air advertising until Monday after a nurse involved in a royal prank phone call took her own life in London.
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The Sydney radio station behind a royal prank linked to a British nurse's death has pulled all ads from its broadcasts as anger mounts around the world at the tragic turn of events.
Rhys Holleran, the chief executive of Austereo which owns 2Day FM, said the suspected suicide of Jacintha Saldanha, the London nurse who took the prank call, was tragic and the two radio presenters who spoke to her were shattered by the news.
But he said the death of Ms Saldanha, who was on duty at the London hospital treating Prince William's pregnant wife, could not have been reasonably foreseen and that the station had done nothing illegal in recording and broadcasting the phone call.
Mr Holleran's comments came after major advertisers pulled their ads from the station and people flocked to social media to condemn presenters Mel Greig and Michael Christian, who have been taken off air following the death of the 46-year-old nurse and mother of two on Friday.
Austereo said it had pulled all advertising from 2Day FM at least until Monday.
Police in London have said there were no suspicious circumstances surrounding Ms Saldanha's death and it is believed she took her own life.
The tragic turn of events has made headlines around the world as fallout from the prank call intensified.
Ms Saldanha was on duty at London's King Edward VII Hospital earlier this week when Greig and Christian telephoned, impersonating the Queen and Prince Charles and seeking details about the condition of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge.
The prank call was recorded and vetted by lawyers before being broadcast to listeners in Sydney.
Speaking to reporters in Melbourne on Saturday, Mr Holleran said he was confident the station had not broken the law.
"We're satisfied that that procedure was met," he said.
"We're very confident that we haven't done anything illegal. What happened was incredibly tragic and we're deeply saddened and we're incredibly affected by that."
However, Bond University media law expert, Mark Pearson, said the DJs could have broken the law by not telling Ms Saldanha that the call was being recorded.
Professor Pearson said it was normally illegal for someone to record a conversation without the other person knowing unless there was "some overriding public interest".
"Clearly in this case there is not," he said.
Austereo said it was committed to working with any authorities investigating the tragedy.
"Our primary concern at this time is for the family of nurse Saldanha," Mr Holleran said.
He also said he didn't know when the presenters would return, adding that they were deeply shocked and had been offered counselling.
The station and the presenters had decided the show would not return to air until further notice out of respect for Ms Saldanha, he said.
News of the nurse's death was acknowledged by the royal family.
"The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are deeply saddened to learn of the death of Jacintha Saldanha," a statement issued by St James's Palace said.
"Their Royal Highnesses were looked after so wonderfully well at all times by everybody at King Edward VII Hospital, and their thoughts and prayers are with Jacintha Saldanha's family, friends and colleagues at this very sad time."
Hospital chief executive John Lofthouse described Ms Saldanha, married with two children, as a "first-class nurse who cared diligently for hundreds of patients".
A spokeswoman for Prime Minister Julia Gillard described the incident as a "terrible tragedy".
The broadcasting watchdog, the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA), said it would talk to the station about the "facts and issues surrounding the prank call".
In May, ACMA warned 2Day FM it could lose its broadcasting licence for any repeat of offensive on-air comments, after morning show presenter Kyle Sandilands called a female journalist a "fat slag" and threatened to "hunt her down".
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I am completely amazed that the radio station is trying to justify the prank call by saying they did nothing "illegal".
Also, that the phone call was recorded and vetted by a lawyer before it went to air.
Well that in itself is pretty scarey, that someone can "legally" impersonate anyone to get private and confidential information about someone else.
What astounds me even more, is that the radio boss makes no mention of whether he thinks it was MORALLY WRONG to invade someone's privacy.
I'm with you Brian, I've never listened to the radion stations with their so called "shock jocks" calling their shots on the air. These "shock jocks" seem to do anything to get their name in the press for their outlandish behaviour on radio.
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What also worries me now, is the glorification and justification that the press seem to making of this poor lady's suicide.
I read about the tributes pouring in to her family and such, and I know they would be in deep grief, but lets not forget that suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary situation and should not be justified for any reason.
I would hate to think, that there are people out there who read this news, think its ok to take their own life because this lady did.
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Jacintha Saldanha's family says she
told them nothing about hoax call
Despite nurse's husband calling his mother in India every day,
his relatives there had no idea of the strain caused by the prank
Gethin Chamberlain in Panaji
The Observer
Saturday 8 December 2012 17.13 EST
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Jacintha Saldanha's mother-in-law, Carmine Barboza: 'Benedict used to
call every day but neither he nor Jacintha said anything about what had
happened. Everything seemed normal.' Photograph: Barboza family
The relatives of nurse Jacintha Saldanha have revealed that she told no one in the family about the prank call that has been blamed for driving her to suicide.
Members of the family gathered at the south Indian home of Saldanha's mother-in-law, Carmine Barboza, to console one another after news reached them of the tragedy.
They said that neither Saldanha nor her husband, Benedict Barboza, had talked of the hoax phone call or given any clue that she had been under any pressure or strain.
"Benedict used to call every day but neither he nor Jacintha said anything about what had happened. Everything seemed normal," said Carmine Barboza, 69. "We got a call last night from Benedict informing us that Jacintha had died. He was crying and couldn't speak much. We don't know whether we'll be able to bring her dead body back to India, but we desperately hope so.
"We spoke to Benedict again this morning, and he said he hasn't been allowed to see her body yet because of legal formalities and she'll not be handed over before Monday. We want to bring her dead body to India to perform her last rites."
She said that the couple had spent last new year with the family in Udupi with their teenage children.
"Jacintha was a very caring woman," said Barboza. "She used to call us every Sunday without fail. We just cannot believe what has happened."
Saldanha and her husband were married in 1993 and moved to Muscat in Oman before arriving in the UK nine years ago. Relatives said that the family returned to India every couple of years.
On Saturday, relatives gathered at the Barbozas' smart single-storey home in Sorkala, near the town of Shirva in Karnataka, to grieve and to share their memories of Saldanha. The modern peach-painted house sits amid coconut palms and tidy gardens.
Irene Barboza, Saldanha's sister-in-law, said the family first heard the news on Friday night at about 8pm. Other members of the family made it clear that they were too grief-stricken to talk to journalists.
Staff at the medical college where Saldanha had trained in Mangalore described her as very dedicated. "Jacintha was a very efficient, intelligent and lively personality, who had won laurels in her nursing studies," said Reverend Sister Aileen Mathias, chief nursing officer at the Father Muller Medical College.
Mathias said that, after completing nursing school, Saldanha had gone on to pursue advanced nursing qualifications before moving to Muscat. Later, after moving to the UK, she appeared to have been thriving in London.
Saldanha and her family were active members of the expatriate Konkani community in the UK – people who hail from the Konkan region, which runs down the south-west coast of India. At a Konkani Community Association Christmas celebration in 2009, they were voted family of the day.
Messages of sympathy were being posted in comments threads on news websites in her native southern India on Saturday.
One read: "Dear Benedict and the children. I have no words to console you at this crucial moment. I am shocked to hear the news. I would like to say that I am supporting you all with my prayers. I cannot believe that Jessy is no more. Please trust in the Lord and take courage."
Another wrote: "Jacintha had been my classmate in Mangalore in school and we contacted on Facebook. It is really sad to hear about this tragic incident. May her soul rest in peace."
Father Richard Coelho, administrator of the Father Muller Medical College Hospital, posted a message to the family that said: "It is really shocking to hear that Jacintha is no more. May her soul rest in peace and that you all may have the strength from the Lord to bear this great loss.
"It should not have happened at all because Jacintha is not at fault. May those who are responsible for her death understand the mistake they have committed and ask pardon from the Lord."
Others called for the Indian government to put pressure on the Australian authorities to take action against the radio station.
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Tragic: The grieving husband of nurse Jacintha Saldanha who died in a suspected suicide has tonight
told of his devastation at her death. She is pictured centre, believed to be with her two children.
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Loss: Benedict Barboza, a 49-year-old hospital accountant, also known as Ben, posted a tribute to
Mrs Saldanha on his Facebook page. He is pictured, left. It is believed the youngster on the right is the couple's son.