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Title: Scene shirtless Ennis and Jack -
Post by: squashcourt on January 09, 2007, 08:40:40 pm
Did Ang Lee use stunts in that scene (the one after the second tent scene which I believe was impeccable.  It was not a performance but an absorbing conviction between Ennis and Jack of how they felt for one another - unspoken love, passion and protection for each other). 

Pierre
Title: Re: Scene shirtless Ennis and Jack -
Post by: moremojo on January 09, 2007, 08:49:59 pm
I'm pretty sure that we see Heath and Jake there--no doubles used for that scene. Now, in the skinny-dipping scene, a stand-in was used for Jack's character, but it is Heath that we see beside him. I have read that Jake didn't want to do the scene because he was scared of the height from which he was being asked to jump (I can sympathize!).

Scott
Title: Re: Scene shirtless Ennis and Jack -
Post by: squashcourt on January 09, 2007, 09:08:04 pm
Thanks Scott for the clarification. 
A bit disappointed with Jake - didn't seem that high to me. 

I guess he'll never be casted as Mark Spitz. 

You know ...... these days I am not able to associate Heath and Jake other than Ennis and Jack.  Hmmm !

Pierre
Title: Re: Scene shirtless Ennis and Jack -
Post by: jpwagoneer1964 on January 09, 2007, 09:10:52 pm
It was so much that Jake was afraid of heights, but he had just landed 'Jarhead' and the river was only ten feet deep he did want to risk a broken leg. I read this in an interview.
Title: Re: Scene shirtless Ennis and Jack -
Post by: Ed59 on January 09, 2007, 09:12:49 pm
       I agree with Scott-- I dont think stunt doubles were used in that scene.

       For me that was one of the best "feel good" scenes in the movie.

     

      
Title: Re: Scene shirtless Ennis and Jack -
Post by: David In Indy on January 09, 2007, 09:36:00 pm
      I agree with Scott-- I dont think stunt doubles were used in that scene.

       For me that was one of the best "feel good" scenes in the movie.

     

      

It was one of the best scenes in the movie, wasn't it Ed??!!

Welcome To Bettermost Ed!  :D
Title: Re: Scene shirtless Ennis and Jack -
Post by: Kd5000 on January 09, 2007, 10:05:56 pm
Yep, I've jumped off 10 ft cliffs into mountain lakes. It's not so bad.  Never in the nude thought.   I guess they had to climb back up to retrieve their clothes. Must have been a real private locale as two guys in their mid 20s, skinny dipping together and who else knows what happened afterwards.  :) Glad there was no Aguirre type watching in the background.
Title: Re: Scene shirtless Ennis and Jack -
Post by: moremojo on January 09, 2007, 10:13:43 pm
You know ...... these days I am not able to associate Heath and Jake other than Ennis and Jack.  Hmmm !
That's interesting to read, because in my case, I really don't associate Heath with Ennis at all, other than recognizing him as the brilliant actor who brought that character so vividly to life. Heath seems so different from Ennis in real life, and I really can't see much of Ennis in Heath outside the context of Brokeback Mountain.

Now, for Jake, it is a bit different. Jack is such a sweet, nurturing spirit, and Jake shows every indication of having these very same qualities. I have suspected this is one of the factors as to why Jake/Jack seems to have more of a hold on fans' affections than Ennis-played-by-Heath (many admirers of the film have expressed anger for Ennis, or at least mixed feelings). In Jake, we really do seem to glimpse a spark of Jack in those baby-blue eyes and warm smile...is it any wonder that so many of us, like Ennis, have become indelibly smitten?

Scott
Title: Re: Scene shirtless Ennis and Jack -
Post by: HerrKaiser on January 10, 2007, 05:47:23 pm
 
A bit disappointed with Jake - didn't seem that high to me. 

I guess he'll never be casted as Mark Spitz. 



Pierre

Actually, Mark Spitz was never a diver; he swam several events in the pool. You must have meant Greg Louganis. :)  Plus the sense of height is MUCH greater from the platform looking down than from the ground looking up which is the perspective the camera had.
Title: Re: Scene shirtless Ennis and Jack -
Post by: Ellemeno on January 10, 2007, 11:01:09 pm
As someone who has watched the "happy tussle" scene frame by frame by frame more than once, I am sure it's Heath and Jake.

Watching frame by frame, it's pretty easy to see that it's not Jake in the jumping in the lake scene.  The fellow jumping with Heath is stockier than Jake. 

I'm also in the "Don't blame Jake a bit for not jumping" camp.  It looks a lot higher than 10 feet up to me, and I wouldn't be surprised if the insurance on his lovely features is very costly.  It did occur to me once how much those paparazzi photos would have gone for if they had caught both Heath AND Jake in them.
Title: Re: Scene shirtless Ennis and Jack -
Post by: injest on January 11, 2007, 12:56:41 am
has Jake ever done full frontal nudity? because that may have been a part of the reason....he didn't want those pics out...
Title: Re: Scene shirtless Ennis and Jack -
Post by: jpwagoneer1964 on January 11, 2007, 01:04:33 am
In TS2 he was willing to do it sans jeans but no one else wanted to from what I have heard.
Title: Re: Scene shirtless Ennis and Jack -
Post by: Ellemeno on January 11, 2007, 01:35:42 am
Here's the best image of Jake's double that I could find at Striped Wall.  Click on the image and then again on the next image for detail.

(http://www.divshare.com/uploads/thumbs/2007/01/10/39707/39707-2fa.jpg) (http://www.divshare.com/download/39707-2fa)
Title: Re: Scene shirtless Ennis and Jack -
Post by: David In Indy on January 13, 2007, 01:03:27 am
In TS he was willing to do it sans jeans but no one else wanted to from what I have heard.

Ignorance is Bliss, but I hate it when I am. So please pardon my ignorance, but what does TS mean? Is this the "Tent Scene" or are these initials for a movie?

Sorry. I get confused easily.  :)
Title: Re: Scene shirtless Ennis and Jack -
Post by: serious crayons on January 13, 2007, 01:36:07 am
what does TS mean?

Oh, TS is Tent Scene. So there's TS1, TS2 and TS3. Some people call them FNIT and SNIT (first night in tent and second night in tent). We held a poll and the TS abbreviation won, but of course anybody can use whichever they prefer.
Title: Re: Scene shirtless Ennis and Jack -
Post by: mvansand76 on January 15, 2007, 04:11:37 pm
I read somewhere that Jake said that he couldn't do the jump because he had to audition for Jarhead.