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Our BetterMost Community => Chez Tremblay => Topic started by: slayers_creek_oth on April 18, 2006, 02:56:57 pm
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I am in the process of writing a detailed Wikipedia article about Oscar upsets. I know the obvious Crash over Brokeback, Shakespeare over Saving etc....but what are some other major upsets? Would you consider Braveheart over Sense and Sensibility an upset? Titanic over LA Conf? Gandhi over ET?
It doesn't have to be just Best Picture upsets either....any upsets in the acting, directing etc. categories will be great too....
Someone who knows Oscars please help...
Thanks in advance...
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>:( Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan was a big upset a few years ago..............
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>:( Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan was a big upset a few years ago..............
Yeah as I said I know the obvious ones.....but a lot of them happened when I was very young so I don't know much about them... ;D
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Titanic winning wasn't really considered an upset - it led in nominations going in and that alone usually guarantees a Best Picture win.
The Greatest Show on Earth over High Noon in 1952
The Color Purple not winning a single award when it was nominated for 9, I believe. I forget what year.
There are many I could give my personal opinion as being bullshit, like The Shawshank Redemption not winning Best Picture when it's one of the best damned movies I've ever seen (I forget what won instead that year, but I remember being annoyed by it - Forrest Gump, maybe?). But those above are the main "upsets" for Best Picture that spring to mind. I'm sure there are others.
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:) oops, my bad, you did mention that one, sorry........................(hides face in embarrassment)................
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There are many I could give my personal opinion as being bullshit, like The Shawshank Redemption not winning Best Picture when it's one of the best damned movies I've ever seen (I forget what won instead that year, but I remember being annoyed by it - Forrest Gump, maybe?). But those above are the main "upsets" for Best Picture that spring to mind. I'm sure there are others.
You rock Barb.......Shawshank is my all time favorite movie! I totally agree that it was snubbed by Forrest which was a good movie but fails in comparison to Shawshank....
Thanks...
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:) oops, my bad, you did mention that one, sorry........................(hides face in embarrassment)................
;).........oh no worries! ;D
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Ooh - I have some acting ones.
Lauren Bacall was considered a shoo-in for Best Supporting Actress for "The Mirror Has Two Faces" but lost to... It escapes me, now.
I think Marisa Tomei winning for "My Cousin Vinny" and Mira Sorvino winning for "Mighty Aphrodite" were considered upsets, too, but I can't remember who they won over.
And wasn't Adrian Brody kind of considered an upset Best Actor win for "The Pianist" a couple years ago?
I'd just like to say, again, how totally done I am with the Academy now. I swear on my mother's ashes I will never watch that frigging show again. Nor care about who wins or loses. (OK, OK, if Jake and Heath and others I love win down the road, I admit I'll probably smile just a little when I hear about it the next day. But that's IT. I swear.)
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I think that Million Dollar baby winning was an upset, because the Aviator was expected to win.
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I think that Million Dollar baby winning was an upset, because the Aviator was expected to win.
Was it really considered an upset? Wow.....thats one upset that I actually agree with then...MDB was leaps and bounds over Aviator IMO....
Thanks...
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Ooh - I have some acting ones.
Lauren Bacall was considered a shoo-in for Best Supporting Actress for "The Mirror Has Two Faces" but lost to... It escapes me, now.
I think Marisa Tomei winning for "My Cousin Vinny" and Mira Sorvino winning for "Mighty Aphrodite" were considered upsets, too, but I can't remember who they won over.
And wasn't Adrian Brody kind of considered an upset Best Actor win for "The Pianist" a couple years ago?
I'd just like to say, again, how totally done I am with the Academy now. I swear on my mother's ashes I will never watch that frigging show again. Nor care about who wins or loses. (OK, OK, if Jake and Heath and others I love win down the road, I admit I'll probably smile just a little when I hear about it the next day. But that's IT. I swear.)
Cool.....thanks Barb
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There are a couple of Oscar prediction studies (essentially, statistical correlations between various precursors and the Oscar winners), and they give some idea of what might be considered "upsets."
University of Oregon study, submitted for publication in a statistics journal, I think:
http://lcb1.uoregon.edu/ipardoe/oscars/picture.htm (http://lcb1.uoregon.edu/ipardoe/oscars/picture.htm)
http://lcb1.uoregon.edu/ipardoe/research/working/oscars.pdf (http://lcb1.uoregon.edu/ipardoe/research/working/oscars.pdf)
http://lcb1.uoregon.edu/ipardoe/oscars/predict2005.htm (http://lcb1.uoregon.edu/ipardoe/oscars/predict2005.htm)
An "Index of Oscar worthiness" by a Dartmouth economics professor:
http://mba.tuck.dartmouth.edu/pages/faculty/andrew.bernard/oscars.htm (http://mba.tuck.dartmouth.edu/pages/faculty/andrew.bernard/oscars.htm)
These might be good references/links for a Wikipedia article.
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http://www.oscars.org/awardsdatabase/index.html (http://www.oscars.org/awardsdatabase/index.html) I think you will find the statistics page very useful on this site as well Chris.
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I think Denzel Washington winning best actor over Russell Crowe a few years back was a bit of an upset.
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You may already be doing this, Chris, but there are people over at the Classic Film and Oscar Buzz forums at IMDb who seem to know a mighty lot about this stuff, and would be so friggin happy to share their 28 cents with you.
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Chariots of Fire was an upset over Reds, On Golden Pond and Raiders of the Lost Ark in 1981.
An American in Paris upset A Streetcar Named Desire and A Place in the Sun in 1951.
Those are the ones that leap to mind.
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I think that Million Dollar baby winning was an upset, because the Aviator was expected to win.
I was on an Oscar site and it said, when discussing this year's best picture, that, like Million Dollar Baby, it was statistically impossible for BBM not to win. (Ignore the BBM comment, I just mean it was perhaps then not an upset Million Dollar Baby won).