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Title: Would Ennis and Jack be having a Happy Easter??
Post by: Artiste on April 05, 2007, 08:15:46 pm
Would Ennis and Jack be having a Happy Easter??

As this can be asked in many ways:

1- as lovers if both were still alive in the story and presently be together as a couple in 2007??
And how would they celebrate?

2- as in the story, Ennis thinks still of Jack who has past away?? How would Ennis dream of celebrating Easter with Jack, in the story itself, before Jack's death??

Any other ways??

Hugs!!

Title: Re: Would Ennis and Jack be having a Happy Easter??
Post by: jpwagoneer1964 on April 05, 2007, 08:25:57 pm
In the context on my Fanfic stories I guess they would have gone to church and had a big celebration meal with the Collins family, the family who lived on another house in their ranch.

Mark
Title: Re: Would Ennis and Jack be having a Happy Easter??
Post by: Artiste on April 05, 2007, 08:58:54 pm
Thanks jpwagoneer1964!

Gone to church, they (Ennis and Jack) would have done that?

May I reply that I am surprised about your answer? What church?
Kind of church? Etc. ??

Proof from the movie and/or story maybe of that??

May I ask??

Hugs!
Title: Re: Would Ennis and Jack be having a Happy Easter??
Post by: jpwagoneer1964 on April 05, 2007, 09:05:55 pm
I think the would have partly because, where I placed them in Colorado they would have felt comfortable to do so, and when they were raised the would have gone regularly especially Easter to most important holiday for Methodists and Pentecostals (Christian).

Mark
Title: Re: Would Ennis and Jack be having a Happy Easter??
Post by: Artiste on April 05, 2007, 09:13:20 pm
Thanks jpwagoneer1964!

One or the two did speak about being (or parents were) Pentecostals?? Which one again?? Ennis and / or Jack??


Awaiting your news Mark,

hugs!!
Title: Re: Would Ennis and Jack be having a Happy Easter??
Post by: jpwagoneer1964 on April 05, 2007, 09:49:34 pm
Ennis's folks were Methodists, Jack's mom was Pentecostal.
Title: Re: Would Ennis and Jack be having a Happy Easter??
Post by: Artiste on April 05, 2007, 09:52:29 pm
Who asked what is Pentecostal?
Title: Re: Would Ennis and Jack be having a Happy Easter??
Post by: jpwagoneer1964 on April 05, 2007, 09:59:40 pm
Ennis asked Jack, he said he didn't know and guessed a wrong answer. It was the time of the beginning of the church.
Title: Re: Would Ennis and Jack be having a Happy Easter??
Post by: Artiste on April 05, 2007, 11:14:07 pm
Thanks jpwagoneer1964!

Ennis and jack did talk about Pentecostal!1

Why do you think this subject: Pentacostal??

Hugs!!
Title: Re: Would Ennis and Jack be having a Happy Easter??
Post by: moremojo on April 05, 2007, 11:16:53 pm
Neither man seemed particularly religious, though religion (specifically Christianity) was certainly a feature in their mutual environment. I have a hunch that neither Ennis nor Jack would have made much of Easter (though they might have if the day would have provided any sort of excuse to arrange another fishing trip!).
Title: Re: Would Ennis and Jack be having a Happy Easter??
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 06, 2007, 03:40:16 pm
I think they'd be really busy because Easter's when the heifers all decide to calve at once, and when the ewes all decide to lamb at once!! I've been reading The Cowboy Way and helpin those mothers birth their younguns isn't pretty! You need one cowboy on either side with a leather strap and...well I'll leave the rest to your imagination!!
Title: Re: Would Ennis and Jack be having a Happy Easter??
Post by: Artiste on April 06, 2007, 03:53:43 pm
Thanks moremojo !

Your comment is this:
Neither man seemed particularly religious, though religion (specifically Christianity) was certainly a feature in their mutual environment. I have a hunch that neither Ennis nor Jack would have made much of Easter (though they might have if the day would have provided any sort of excuse to arrange another fishing trip!).
...

Religion is mentioned in the movie, as well as in Annie's story? More than once??

Remember that Ennis got married to his lady, in a church!! ??

Did Jack marry his lady in a church?? Any proof in the movie and/or in Annie's story??

Does it puzzle you that both Ennis and Jack talked about religion in the movie?? Why??

As it is Holy Friday, we must not forget that Jack got killed, maybe murdered; anyway, he is not alive after an episode!! Is that a pentecostal idea of Annie?? It seems so to me!! To you too??
Like Jack is Christ in a way, yes, yes!! ??

And Ennis realizes that too!! ??
...

An excuse for a fishing trip would have maybe be Easter for Ennis and Jack, could be so, and/or it was so before in one or more of those past years??

Jack not letting son play TV while eating with his wife, father-in-law and mother-in-law, was that Easter??


Happy Holy Friday!!

Hugs!!

Title: Re: Would Ennis and Jack be having a Happy Easter??
Post by: Artiste on April 06, 2007, 03:57:46 pm
Thanks Front-Ranger!

Wow, wow, for saying this:
I think they'd be really busy because Easter's when the heifers all decide to calve at once, and when the ewes all decide to lamb at once!! I've been reading The Cowboy Way and helpin those mothers birth their younguns isn't pretty! You need one cowboy on either side with a leather strap and...well I'll leave the rest to your imagination!!
...

So birth is then at Easter!! So Ennis and Jack would have worked together then on Brokeback Mountain and/or on their own ranch (Ennis and Jack as a couple) and/or at Jack's parents place?? !!

Happy Holy Friday to you, your family and friends!!

Hugs!!

Title: Re: Would Ennis and Jack be having a Happy Easter??
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 06, 2007, 03:58:50 pm
No, that was Thanksgiving which is celebrated in the US in late November, Artiste.

I would like to mention that Annie Proulx said in a talk about Brokeback Mountain that Christ was described as riding into the city just before He was crucified on an UNBROKEN colt. She was very much aware of the parallels to the New Testament and used them deliberately.

Title: Re: Would Ennis and Jack be having a Happy Easter??
Post by: Artiste on April 06, 2007, 04:05:12 pm
Thanks Front-Ranger!

Wonderful news about Annie saying that!!

Can you find that for me??

No rush!!

Hugs!!
Title: Re: Would Ennis and Jack be having a Happy Easter??
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 06, 2007, 05:15:35 pm
It's discussed somewhere in this topic:

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,4224.0.html (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,4224.0.html)