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Re: annieproulx.com website is no longer working.
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2007, 05:48:01 am »
Shit, that's hard.  Thanks Janice, for asking Jack.  And thank you Jack, for letting us know.
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Re: annieproulx.com website is no longer working.
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2007, 01:47:56 pm »
I'm so very sorry to hear that Annie has been the victim of that horrible group of homophobes.  Thanks for letting us know, Jack.  :(

Last fall I was fortunate enough to get the e-mail address of Annie's agent from the site, and that's how I found out about her appearance at the Guggenheim and got to meet her.  Now it's only going to be that much harder for real fans to make contact or get info.  >:(
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Re: annieproulx.com website is no longer working.
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2007, 02:08:56 pm »
Last fall I was fortunate enough to get the e-mail address of Annie's agent from the site, and that's how I found out about her appearance at the Guggenheim and got to meet her.  Now it's only going to be that much harder for real fans to make contact or get info.  >:(

Maybe her publisher's website?

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Re: annieproulx.com website is no longer working.
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2007, 02:20:10 pm »
That is just awful. I feel very bad for her.

And yet, while there is no "bright side" to this, the first thing I thought as I read Jack's post is that this experience, as unfortunate as it is for Annie, is yet another testimony to the power of this film--and perhaps also to the power of visual images in our culture.

As I was reading Jack's comment, what immediately came to mind was Annie's comment in her essay, "Getting Movied," that she had expected a negative outpouring when the story was published, and it didn't happen. So what the written word didn't or couldn't do, the visual image did--as unfortunate as that is.

Of course, right-wing bigots probably don't read books like Front Range and would hardly be expected to read a magazine like The New Yorker. ...
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Re: annieproulx.com website is no longer working.
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2007, 02:23:21 pm »
This thread reminded me of this Washington Post story that I read recently. It's a different situation from Annie Proulx's, obviously, but related. The inhibition-lowering qualities of internet anonymity can be great when it comes to online friendships, but they have a really ugly side, too.

Sexual Threats Stifle Some Female Bloggers

By Ellen Nakashima
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, April 30, 2007; Page A01

A female freelance writer who blogged about the pornography industry was threatened with rape. A single mother who blogged about "the daily ins and outs of being a mom" was threatened by a cyber-stalker who claimed that she beat her son and that he had her under surveillance. Kathy Sierra, who won a large following by blogging about designing software that makes people happy, became a target of anonymous online attacks that included photos of her with a noose around her neck and a muzzle over her mouth.

As women gain visibility in the blogosphere, they are targets of sexual harassment and threats. Men are harassed too, and lack of civility is an abiding problem on the Web. But women, who make up about half the online community, are singled out in more starkly sexually threatening terms -- a trend that was first evident in chat rooms in the early 1990s and is now moving to the blogosphere, experts and bloggers said.
   
A 2006 University of Maryland study on chat rooms found that female participants received 25 times as many sexually explicit and malicious messages as males. A 2005 study by the Pew Internet & American Life Project found that the proportion of Internet users who took part in chats and discussion groups plunged from 28 percent in 2000 to 17 percent in 2005, entirely because of the exodus of women. The study attributed the trend to "sensitivity to worrisome behavior in chat rooms."

Joan Walsh, editor in chief of the online magazine Salon, said that since the letters section of her site was automated a year and a half ago, "it's been hard to ignore that the criticisms of women writers are much more brutal and vicious than those about men."

Arianna Huffington, whose Huffington Post site is among the most prominent of blogs founded by women, said anonymity online has allowed "a lot of those dark prejudices towards women to surface." Her site takes a "zero tolerance" policy toward abusive and excessively foul language, and employs moderators "24/7" to filter the comments, she said.

Sierra, whose recent case has attracted international attention, has suspended blogging. Other women have censored themselves, turned to private forums or closed comments on blogs. Many use gender-neutral pseudonyms. Some just gut it out. But the effect of repeated harassment, bloggers and experts interviewed said, is to make women reluctant to participate online -- undercutting the promise of the Internet as an egalitarian forum.

Robert Scoble, a technology blogger who took a week off in solidarity with Sierra, said women have told him that harassment is a "disincentive" to participate online. That, he said, will affect their job prospects in the male-dominated tech industry. "If women aren't willing to show up for networking events, either offline or online, then they're never going to be included in the industry," he said.

The treatment of women online is not just an equivalent of what happens offline, some women say. The Internet allows the content to be seen immediately, often permanently and far more widely than a remark scribbled on a restroom wall.

"The sad thing is, I've had thousands of messages from women saying, 'You were a role model for me,' " Sierra said in an interview, describing communications she received after suspending her blog. Sierra was the first woman to deliver a keynote speech at a conference on the Linux operating system. Her blog was No. 23 in the Technorati.com Top 100 list of blogs, measured by the number of blogs that linked to her site.

Her Web site, Creating Passionate Users, was about "the most fluffy and nice things," she said. Sierra occasionally got the random "comment troll," she said, but a little over a month ago, the posts became more threatening. Someone typed a comment on her blog about slitting her throat and ejaculating. The noose photo appeared next, on a site that sprang up to harass her. On the site, someone contributed this comment: "the only thing Kathy has to offer me is that noose in her neck size."

On yet another Web site came the muzzle photo, which struck her as if she were being smothered. "I dream of Kathy Sierra," read the caption.

"That's when I got pushed over the edge," she said.

Sexual Threats Stifle Some Female Bloggers

In what she intended to be her final blog post last month, she wrote:

"I have cancelled all speaking engagements.

"I am afraid to leave my yard.

"I will never feel the same. I will never be the same."

She received thousands of comments expressing outrage, including e-mails from women attesting to their own ordeals, "saying I got this. I got that. I went underground. I blogged under a pseudonym," she said.

Two factors can contribute to the vitriol, experts said: blogging in a male-dominated field, such as technology, and achieving a degree of prominence.

Susan Herring, a professor of information science at Indiana University, said each new online venue has been greeted with optimism because the early adopters tend to be educated, socially conscious people who think the form engenders community. Even as recently as 2003, she said, it was relatively rare to find negativity on blogs.

Now, she said, blogs risk becoming "nastified," at least in the comment zones.

Kathleen Cooper, the single mother, said she began to experience harassment about five years ago after she posted a retort on a friend's blog to a random blogger's threat against a friend. The harasser began posting defamatory accusations on Cooper's site, on his blog and then on a site that purports to track "bad businesses." He said that he could not be responsible for what "his minions" might do to her, she said.

Cooper, 37, who lives in Sarasota, Fla., has tried password-protecting her site. She and five other women have asked the man's Web site server to shut him down, but he revives his site with another server. Law enforcement officials laugh it off, she said, "like 'Oh, it's not a big deal. It's just online talk. Nobody's going to come get you.' "

Some female bloggers say their colleagues just need thicker skin. Columnist Michelle Malkin, who blogs about politics and culture, said she sympathizes with Sierra but has chided the bloggers expressing outrage now. "First, where have y'all been? For several years, the unhinged Internet underworld has been documented here," she wrote, reposting a comment on her site that called for the "torture, rape, murder" of her family.

Report the serious threats to law enforcement, she urged. And above all: "Keep blogging. Don't cut and run."

But Herring said Malkin is in a minority. "There's a whole bunch of women who are being intimidated," she said. They include academics, professional programmers and other women normally unafraid to speak their minds.

"I completely changed," said a professor, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid further harassment. "I self-censor like crazy because I don't feel like getting caught up in another round of abuse."

Some bloggers have called for a voluntary code of conduct, including a ban on anonymous comments. But other bloggers resist because it seems like a restriction of free speech. The founders of BlogHer, a 10,000-member online community supporting women, said the best way to enforce civility on a blog is for each site to create its own rules -- such as removing abusive comments -- then make the rules public and apply them fairly.

Herring said the decline in women's participation in chat rooms was ominous. "If we see a lot of harassment in the blogosphere, will we see a decline in women blogging? I think we will."


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Re: annieproulx.com website is no longer working.
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2007, 02:34:56 pm »
reminds me of other incidents  :'(
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Re: annieproulx.com website is no longer working.
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2007, 02:47:12 pm »
Ugh.  Ugh.  Ugh ugh ugh.

  :'( >:( :-\ :-X

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Re: annieproulx.com website is no longer working.
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2007, 02:52:09 pm »

The founders of BlogHer, a 10,000-member online community supporting women, said the best way to enforce civility on a blog is for each site to create its own rules -- such as removing abusive comments -- then make the rules public and apply them fairly.


The one bright note for me in that article, and it IS a bright note.  It's exactly what we do here at BetterMost.

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Re: annieproulx.com website is no longer working.
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2007, 03:00:20 pm »
I find this absolutely appalling! Poor Annie. She writes a beautiful story about love and she get attacked for it to the point she must shut down her own website.

These right wing religious fanatics make my blood boil. What ever happened to "love your neighbor?" Apparently they're all too stupid to understand.  :'(
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Re: annieproulx.com website is no longer working.
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2007, 04:19:38 pm »
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The founders of BlogHer, a 10,000-member online community supporting women, said the best way to enforce civility on a blog is for each site to create its own rules -- such as removing abusive comments -- then make the rules public and apply them fairly.


The one bright note for me in that article, and it IS a bright note.  It's exactly what we do here at BetterMost.

This reminded me of us, too:

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Arianna Huffington, whose Huffington Post site is among the most prominent of blogs founded by women, said anonymity online has allowed "a lot of those dark prejudices towards women to surface." Her site takes a "zero tolerance" policy toward abusive and excessively foul language, and employs moderators "24/7" to filter the comments, she said.