the reunion scene when alma catches a glimpse

[bbm_stitchbuffyfan]

But, I  see a whole lot of stuff in the movie that is not even in the book. Such as "Jack never worked for a guy named 'L. D. Newsome'." Jack did not have a brand new pickup in 1967. Jack never worked for the farm and equipment company until AFTER Alma divorced Ennis. Lureen's father was dead when Jack began working there.

True, although added elements like this should be expected. The book was not very long and the screenplay fleshed out the book and some of the background characters.

Hmm, so you're saying people who dislike the movie "so much" and repeatedly deny the book exists visit Brokeback forums? Oh, this plagues me...

All of the differences you listed such as Ennis being on the Stoutamire ranch in the book and on some highway in the movie don't really bother me at all.

[Front-Ranger]

One scene I like better in the movie than in the book is the motel scene. As someone pointed out, the story version is much longer and contains dialogue that was sprinkled throughout the movie. I have a hard time believing Jack and Ennis lay naked on the bed discoursing that eloquently and long. Other elements in the story emphasized a sense of sordidness and aloneness: a door slamming, a phone ringing, smells, the dingy furniture. But in the movie the boys are seen lounging together peacefully in the moonlight, their skin glistening with a pearly glow, and wreathed in cigarette smoke. Ang Lee is more of a romantic than Proulx and he may err on the side of tastefulness, but it makes the whole reunion/motel/first camping trip hang together better.

[TJ]

True, although added elements like this should be expected. The book was not very long and the screenplay fleshed out the book and some of the background characters.

Hmm, so you're saying people who dislike the movie "so much" and repeatedly deny the book exists visit Brokeback forums? Oh, this plagues me...

All of the differences you listed such as Ennis being on the Stoutamire ranch in the book and on some highway in the movie don't really bother me at all.

No I am saying that are people who LIKE THE MOVIE VERY MUCH; but, they act like they wish there had never been a book/short-story in the first place! There were quite a few who fit that category who were members of the davecullen.com forum. I am not a member there now.

The Stoutamire Ranch situation where Ennis had his place to sleep, i.e. the drafty old trailer, IMO, is very important to the story. Ennis did not get the postcard which was stamped "DECEASED" and returned to sender in Riverton as in the Movie, it was in Signal.

The hiding of the postcard and the shirts in a closet as in the movie, IMO, contradicts the situation as to why and where Ennis put them in his trailer.

Ennis was working "AT" signal and took Stoutamire's horse blankets to the car wash. After he did that, he went to Higgins' Gift Shop and looked for a Brokeback Mountain postcard. Linda Higgins asked if it was over in Fremont County. But, Ennis said, "No, North a here." She ordered a card for him and when it came, he went and got it.

Ennis put the card on the wall of the trailer with a brass-headed tack in each corner, drove a nail INTO the wall UNDER the post card and hung the already-on-a-hanger shirts from that particular nail and then . . . "Jack, I swear -- " he said, though Jack had never asked him to swear anything and was himself not the swearing kind.

IMO, Ennis as far as his living "at home" was concerned, he was not in the closet anymore to himself at least.

(I was out of the closet to myself before I moved to LA to "literally" get out of the closet I was in here in Oklahoma. It was the  middle of March 1984 when I moved out of state; but, I was not actually out of the closet to my family and those who knew me in Tulsa until after my 46th birthday in November 1988.)

[jpwagoneer1964]

See, their logic doesn't make sense to me either. (You're talking about forums like IMDB right?)

What did you think was a major change in the movie? The only changes, off the top of my head, were how we never saw Jack telling Ennis of how Jack's dad used to beat him (or the flashback to that). (I admit, I kind of wish that was in the movie.) The motel scene was longer in the book but the movie showed the rest of that conversation up on Brokeback.

In the book they never went back to Brokeback; in the movie, they did. (See, I think that works really well both ways for different, symbolic reasons.) And Ennis in the book was more expressive than Ennis in the movie.

And some of those beautiful, touching endearments in the book like "little darlin'" were scrapped. Malheureusement...

I guess I don't consider them to be major changes because I recall details from Harry Potter books being altered or how A Little Princess has a completely different resolution in the book, apparently (that Alfonso Cuaron!), and Valentine, the crappy movie, was changed a lot from it's original source, which is pretty decent so far (I'm almost done).

P.S. The moustache has grown on me. I think it works to the filmmakers' advantage in aging Jack.

I was actually, when reading the book, blown away at how faithful the film was to it's source. 

In the movie the didn't go back to Brockback either as Ennis tells Lureene that were they were in 1963. However there is a scene of Jack and Ennis riding the same ridge that Ennis was on just before he ran accross the bear many years earlier

[Front-Ranger]

This is a good topic to reread.