Heath & Michelle: Is it true this time?

[mvansand76]

US Weekly reported this this morning:

http://usmagazine.com/exclusive_heath_ledger_and_michelle_williams_split

and this website confirmed it:

http://heathledgercentral.com/ipb/index.php?s=30a60e7004bb05c2d3849307dffb154f&showtopic=4157

What do you think?

[Shasta542]

It may be true. If it is, I feel sad. But glad that it says they split amicably and that they are both dedicated to caring for the baby. It will be best for her if her parents remain on good terms.

I have seen RL people split up whom I would have never imagined it happening (me included)--not such a shock when two youngsters who meet on a movie set do. It's just---I had high hopes for them.

Soul mates may exist, but they are few and far between--or at least hard to magically bump into.

[Ellemeno]

Quote from the first article:

"The relationship had been rocky recently. They tried very hard to make it work but finally decided to separate. They just grew apart."


Grew APART?  They haven't been together long enough to grow TOGETHER yet!  What is this disposable world coming to?  I think most people in long term relationships will say there are up and down phases, close and distant phases, happy and not so friggin happy phases.  Happy all the time - and happy all the time with a young baby - and happy all the time with a young baby and working for long times in different parts of the world - and happy all the time with a young baby and working for long times in different parts of the world while other people throw themselves at you sexually every day would make it tough.

[Kelda]

what a shame. they looked so happy together.

[opinionista]

Quote from the first article:

Grew APART?  They haven't been together long enough to grow TOGETHER yet! 

I agree. I always thought they rushed into things. Michelle was already pregnant shortly after the film wrapped up. It wasn't even a year since they met.

[ifyoucantfixit]

       Tragic, but not an unexpected thing considering the lives they have to lead...So often in other parts of the world from each other..

[MaineWriter]

Well, I hope that if their parting was "amicable" (as the report says) that they keep talking to each other and maybe...make up? People do go through rough patches and then get back together. I hope so. They looked so happy together during all the BBM PR stuff...

L

[mvansand76]

I felt very sad the first time I read this, but I have recovered from the shock ( ) and realise that you never do know people who are in the spotlights, especially if they try to avoid that spotlight all the time and at all costs and keep very private. They might have looked happy in the shortly after BBM pics, but they haven't looked happy in any of the recent pics that I have seen. But that still doesn't say anything and you can't lift the roof of their house and look inside, so you have no idea what has been going on. The only one I feel really sorry for is Matilda, but she'll be alright with two devoted parents, plus a godmother and godfather, plus family on both sides, plus all the love in the world.

I have seen it with my own sister's divorce, if you deal with it in a sensible way, splitting up is often a better solution than staying together for the kids.

Oh, PEOPLE confirmed it too.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20054428,00.html

[Shasta542]

It's not so hard to look happy during the "honeymoon" period. It's that living together and getting to know each other's habits and quirks that gets to ya. I know---lots of people have made it after marrying (or making a home with) someone they've known for just a short time. But there's something to be said for taking it slow, too. (Which doesn't always work either.)

Somebody out there....WHAT'S THE ANSWER TO LOVE??!! Is there one?  Lol. I guess just enjoy it while you've got it, and work hard to keep it that way.

[mvansand76]

Somebody out there....WHAT'S THE ANSWER TO LOVE??!! Is there one?  Lol. I guess just enjoy it while you've got it, and work hard to keep it that way.[/b][/color]

It's the old cliche, it's give and take and bringing out the best in each other I think. Forgive each other your weakness(es).  There are just people that do not want to settle for anything but that scorching fire burning between two people. That doesn't last. I have been together with my boyfriend for going on 6 years now and he still annoys the hell out of me sometimes, and we have had our rough patches, but we also understand each other like no one else does. That's the secret I think.

[Shasta542]

he still annoys the hell out of me sometimes

Well, now, he wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't do that occasionally. Lol!!

You are right tho---it's something you have to work out and not think of as disposable. So few people are perfect--we have to forgive so we can be forgiven.

There is a lot of comfort in having someone who understands as no one else does, too. It's great that you have that, Melissa.  

[dot-matrix]

It's so sad.  I was so hopping they could make it in spite of the obstacles, I think it would be extremely hard to forge the bonds necessary for a solid relationship when you're both jetting off to different parts of the world for months at a time.  You need to be together to grow together.  When you're apart all the time of course you grow apart you're like intimate strangers when you see each other again.  I can't imagine being away from my husband for months at a time, that's just not what marriage is about.  And what about Matilda, she's already being shuttled back and forth with a Nanny.  She probably already has more air miles than most of us.  Is that the way it's to be for her while her parents pursue their careers?  Sad very sad.

[Penthesilea]

Grew APART?  They haven't been together long enough to grow TOGETHER yet! 

Well said, Elle.

[moremojo]

Yes, I concur with what others have expressed about the unrealistic demands the two placed on their young relationship. Forgo the movies for a while, folks, and give your union a chance to take root and mature. What's more important--your careers and becoming even richer than you already are, or nurturing the love and family you have found (all too rare assets in this frequently harsh world)?

A lot of this is sheer speculation on my part, of course. But I just think it's symptomatic of a culture that doesn't know, or has forgotten, how to teach people to honor the deepest parts of their hearts. I do wish everyone involved the best, and find encouragement in reading that the separation is amicable.

[mvansand76]

Well, now, he wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't do that occasionally. Lol!!

  Yeah and he takes that job VERY seriously! LOL!

 

[Shasta542]

Yeah and he takes that job VERY seriously! LOL!

 

 

 Do you ever drive him crazy--you know--to even things out a little?  

[mvansand76]

 Do you ever drive him crazy--you know--to even things out a little?  

  I love that smiley with the car wheel! 

Oh yes, I drive him crazy every day. I whine a lot. LOL. And I STILL talk about BBM.

Last night he came home from playing videogames with his brother and I said Heath Ledger and Michelle Wiliams have split! and he just looked at me and said Who are they? He said that just to annoy me!

[Ellemeno]

Last night he came home from playing videogames with his brother and I said Heath Ledger and Michelle Wiliams have split! and he just looked at me and said Who are they? He said that just to annoy me!

I told my husband last night too, and he said, "You mean the one he's married to?"   Well, they're not married, I replied.  Still, I was proud he knew what I was talking about. 

[Ellemeno]

But I just think it's symptomatic of a culture that doesn't know, or has forgotten, how to teach people to honor the deepest parts of their hearts.

All beautifully said, Scott, but it does make me wonder - maybe acting IS honoring the deepest part of Heath's heart.  Maybe that creative drive IS more powerful and important to him.

[MaineWriter]

I told my husband last night too, and he said, "You mean the one he's married to?"   Well, they're not married, I replied.  Still, I was proud he knew what I was talking about. 

I personally believe they are married. They took out a marriage license late last year and we have the photos of Heath with a wedding ring.

And I am also holding fast to the thought that they will be able to work things out. Yes, the romance was fast. Yes, they had a baby very quickly. That makes me think that there is a true love there and they will be able to "kiss and make up."

So call me a romantic optimist, I am hoping they get back together.

L

[Penthesilea]

I personally believe they are married. They took out a marriage license late last year and we have the photos of Heath with a wedding ring.

And I am also holding fast to the thought that they will be able to work things out. Yes, the romance was fast. Yes, they had a baby very quickly. That makes me think that there is a true love there and they will be able to "kiss and make up."

So call me a romantic optimist, I am hoping they get back together.

L

Aww, Leslie, I love that romantic, optimistic side of yours. And I hope you're right.

[Ellemeno]

I hope you're right too.  God, imagine the papers posting when you and your husband have had a fight. 

[Fran]

This is indeed sad news.  I had hoped that Heath and Michelle would be the ones to defy the odds of most Hollywood relationships and have a "happily ever after" one.

I like Leslie's optimism, though.  Maybe some time apart is just what they need to realize they belong together.

[notBastet]

All beautifully said, Scott, but it does make me wonder - maybe acting IS honoring the deepest part of Heath's heart.  Maybe that creative drive IS more powerful and important to him.

And if so, I don't think that makes him a lesser man.

Before someone can honor the deepest part of their hearts, they must know what that part is.

I don't believe that the 'deep part' is necessarily a relationship for everyone... for some people, perhaps, but not everyone...

just piping in with my 2 cents!

 

[notBastet]

Leslie, resident romantic optimist, I am just curious - can you think of any celebrity couples that were on and off again, and endured??

I can't off the top of my head, but that doesn't mean all that much lol.

Antonio Banderas and Melanie Griffith, maybe?  When I think of long standing couples I think of Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins, and Kirk Russell and Goldie Hawn, and that's about it.

Just a random thought, but the measure of a relationship doesn't necessarily have to be the length of time the relationship endured, fwiw.

[chefjudy]

  in spite of what I have read, I remain a hopeful romantic - maybe they just 'untied the knot', but the bond
and the love are still there??   

[MaineWriter]

Leslie, resident romantic optimist, I am just curious - can you think of any celebrity couples that were on and off again, and endured??

I can't off the top of my head, but that doesn't mean all that much lol.

Antonio Banderas and Melanie Griffith, maybe?  When I think of long standing couples I think of Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins, and Kirk Russell and Goldie Hawn, and that's about it.

Just a random thought, but the measure of a relationship doesn't necessarily have to be the length of time the relationship endured, fwiw.

Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward have been together for ages. Sam Shepard and Jessica Lange.

I think the couples that manage to make it work are the ones who stay out of the limelight. I think Heath and Michelle tried to do that...living in Brooklyn instead of Hollywood, for example. But they are young and certainly part of the reason someone is a "star" is because they want to be famous. And they are young and still in the fame and attention seeking mode.

I think it is a very hard job to find the proper balance.

L

[Jeff Wrangler]

Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward have been together for ages. Sam Shepard and Jessica Lange.

Mel Brooks and the late Ann Bancroft were together for, what, a couple of decades, until Ann Bancroft died.

[Ellemeno]

Mel Brooks and the late Ann Bancroft were together for, what, a couple of decades, until Ann Bancroft died.

I just looked on IMDb.  From August 1964 to June 2005 (her death).  40 years and 10 months.  Wow.

We have a thread here where we talked about really long term couples (not necessarily famous).  Phillip and John are listed.  So are Pete and David.    Does anyone remember where it is?

[MaineWriter]

I just looked on IMDb.  From August 1964 to June 2005 (her death).  40 years and 10 months.  Wow.

We have a thread here where we talked about really long term couples (not necessarily famous).  Phillip and John are listed.  So are Pete and David.    Does anyone remember where it is?

I remember that conversation. I don't know if it was its own thread, though. Maybe it is hidden somewhere else...like the 1000+ posts club?

L

[newyearsday]

Sad! I just found out. I agree with Elle's comment; it's hard enough having a new relationship and baby much less being in the spotlight AND traveling too much/having too much fawning attention being directed at you. Most people have a 50-50 shot at a lasting marriage, but I'd say Hollywood couples have more like a 1 in 10 chance.

Other long-termers include Tom Hanks & Rita Wilson (17 years I think) and William H. Macy & Felicity Huffman (10 years).

[ifyoucantfixit]

           My husband and I have been married for 50 years. its an up and down thing.  Some times
are perfect, and some are not.  That is to me the secret of longevity.  Just recognize that its is
always going to be something you have to work at..  Even after this long of a time.  

[Jeff Wrangler]

           My husband and I have been married for 50 years. its an up and down thing.  Some times
are perfect, and some are not.  That is to me the secret of longevity.  Just recognize that its is
always going to be something you have to work at..  Even after this long of a time.  

Too many people, in and out of Hollywood, seem to be expecting "happily ever after," but life just ain't that way. 

I guess you have to accept that it ain't always "happily" if you expect to have the "ever after" with the same person.

[Lumière]

Too many people, in and out of Hollywood, seem to be expecting "happily ever after," but life just ain't that way. 

True.

Still, best of luck to H & M and their kiddo. 

[Ellemeno]

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09062007/gossip/pagesix/heath_who_.htm

HEATH WHO?

September 6, 2007 -- TWO days after announcing her split with Heath Ledger, a chic Michelle Williams strutted her stuff at Park Slope watering hole Union Hall. The stunning mother of 23-month- old daughter Matilda sported super high heels for a night out with the girls Sunday. "She looked gorgeous with her sleek bob and seemed happy," said one onlooker. "She was definitely showing it off."

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