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Re: Twist family Bible study: the Gospel of Mark
« Reply #190 on: December 18, 2007, 11:29:23 am »
 ???  Wait, what, no problem?!?  You (and everybody) are welcome to say whatever you like!  It's our family Bible study after all!       ;D   :-* :-*
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Re: Twist family Bible study: the Gospel of Mark
« Reply #191 on: December 18, 2007, 12:40:53 pm »
I've gone and got myself all excited about this Lazarus Hypothesis. So even though this is more explicitly relevant to the gospel of John than the gospel of Mark, I want to go ahead and post some relevant websites.

Some of these sites come from a traditional Christian perspective and some from other perspectives, but I think they make a convincing case for two amazing conclusions about Lazarus, the man who Jesus has just raised from the dead:

1. He is the "disciple whom Jesus loved" in the gospel of John

2. He is the author of the gospel of John

To these I would add that the relationship described between Jesus and this disciple is physical. We'll see more of that in John.
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Re: Twist family Bible study: the Gospel of Mark
« Reply #192 on: December 18, 2007, 12:52:15 pm »
OK so some external sites that come to this conclusion:

The Disciple Whom Jesus Loved

Why did the "other disciple whom Jesus loved" conceal his identity at theologyonline.com

The Authorship of the Fourth Gospel at VoiceofJesus.com

Lazarus and the Fourth Gospel Community, a scholarly book at Amazon.com

Lazarus: the Beloved Disciple? at Psychic Questing
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Re: Twist family Bible study: the Gospel of Mark
« Reply #193 on: December 18, 2007, 06:08:03 pm »
In chapter 12, Jesus tells a parable of a landowner who rents his farm out. But the tenants kill the servants that he sends to collect the rent, so the landowner kills them and gets new tenants.

Later, the Pharisees and some Herodians ask Jesus if it is proper to pay taxes. This could be a trap because the people resent paying taxes, but the law requires it. Jesus notes that coins carry Caesar's image, so pay Caesar what is due Caesar, and pay God what is due God. What is made in God's image?
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Re: Twist family Bible study: the Gospel of Mark
« Reply #194 on: December 18, 2007, 06:24:10 pm »
Next Jesus is question by the Saducees, a Jewish sect that did not believe in resurrection of the body.

To illustrate their point, they tell a story of a woman who was married to 7 brothers, each of whom had died in succession. Which one would be her husband in heaven?

Jesus answers that there is no marriage in heaven.

This topic of marriage was a real hot-button issue for these folks! Sounds familiar eh?   ;) :laugh:   

Like ifyoucantfixit was saying, the authorities may have been pushing questions about marriage to try to get Jesus in trouble, because that's how they managed to get John the Baptist beheaded.     :-X
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Re: Twist family Bible study: the Gospel of Mark
« Reply #195 on: December 18, 2007, 06:38:03 pm »
A scribe asks Jesus what is the greatest commandment. Jesus answers with two commandments:

1/ Love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength, and
2/ Love your neighbor as yourself.

The scribe says, yes, you are right. These are more important than all the burnt offerings and sacrifices.

Jesus says "You are not far from the Kingdom of Heaven."

This is some of the clearest information we get from Jesus about exactly what he was working for.

The Kingdom of Heaven is something very close to loving God, loving your neighbor as yourself, and recognizing that these are more important than following a complicated list of rules.
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Re: Twist family Bible study: the Gospel of Mark
« Reply #196 on: December 18, 2007, 06:42:42 pm »
Jesus says beware of religious leaders who make a big show of themselves, but who devour widows' houses, and for appearance's sake offer long prayers. They will be condemned.

My own comment - couldn't this describe an awful lot of what is done in the name of organized religion today?

And how so-called Christianity is used in American politics?

I'm sure I'm not the first person to notice that!     ::) :laugh: ;)

If you want to follow Jesus, work for a system that will help the poor instead of enriching the rich.

But keep in mind what they did to Jesus for saying that ...    :-\
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Re: Twist family Bible study: the Gospel of Mark
« Reply #197 on: December 18, 2007, 11:51:48 pm »


   Most of these topics are ones as they say ..you didn't learn in kindergarden.
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Re: Twist family Bible study: the Gospel of Mark
« Reply #198 on: December 19, 2007, 09:56:34 am »
 ;D   Very true. Maybe we can change that !!    ;)
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Re: Twist family Bible study: the Gospel of Mark
« Reply #199 on: December 19, 2007, 02:56:37 pm »
I have learned a few new words lately. One is irenic: conducive to peace

from Luke, Judaism, and the Scholars: Critical Approaches to Luke-Acts By Joseph B. Tyson:

"Canonical Luke is a neutralizing collection of Pauline and Judaistic discourses and narratives. The Pauline elements appear as the basis of the gospel and the Judaistic as the interpolations and additions. The result is an irenic gospel."
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