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What Stage are we in now???
« on: March 10, 2006, 04:19:24 am »
Hi Everyone....my Fellow Brokaholics.....or should I call us...Brokeback Mountain Broads?  ;)

Just thought I'd post a few thoughts in here and TRY and figure out where we are....in the 5 Steps.....Moving forward??  Stepping back? 

Reading the posts from all of you....I think we're all in different stages....huh? 

As for myself....I THOUGHT I was on Stage #5....until I read the most WONDERFUL post from Lynne.  She lovingly dug up some more of my 'stuff' so I took a step back for a little bit.  I feeling VERY confident now that I WILL make it to Stage #5....thanks to all of you here. 
I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!   :-*

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Re: What Stage are we in now???
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2006, 09:38:12 am »
Just thought I'd post a few thoughts in here and TRY and figure out where we are....in the 5 Steps.....Moving forward??  Stepping back? 

LOL @ 'Brokeback Mountain Broads'  :P  I see there's someone else here who's given up sleeping for Lent.  I sure didn't mean to cause a set-back...

Seriously, though, I'm of the opinion that these  'stages' are not linear or progressive.  We can move back and forth between them as we need to.

(((Hugs))) Back at you.
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« Last Edit: March 11, 2006, 01:38:07 am by Lynne »
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Re: What Stage are we in now???
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2006, 05:35:24 pm »
Seriously, though, I'm of the opinion that these  'stages' are not linear or progressive.  We can move back and forth between them as we need to.

(((Hugs))) Back at you.
-Lynne


I absolutely agree Lynne....and TRUST ME....I was HAPPY as a clam that you 'set me back' a bit!!  Gave me some MORE insight into my 'waffling'....so to speak.    ;)

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Re: What Stage are we in now???
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2006, 12:08:53 am »
I like the Brokeback Broads!  To which posts of Lynne's are you referring?  I thought I was in 5 but should probably read what she has said.  (Just identify the inital post and I'll find it.)

Thanks!


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Re: What Stage are we in now???
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2006, 02:29:25 am »
HI "J".....Lynne's post is in the "now what" thingee....then the BBM legacy....6 weeks

GO read it g/f.....it's inspiring and wonderful!! 

As I said..."LYNNE for PRESIDENT"   ;)

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Re: What Stage are we in now???
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2006, 01:36:13 am »

Thanks, Nancy.  I found Lynne's post~with your guidance~ and it was beautiful.  In the past few years I have found myself more in the activist position.  Anything that "touches" my heart I try find more about it.  Last year I volunteered with Lesbian Gay Rights League to keep Prop. #2 from becoming an amendment to our state constitution.  The year before that I worked on the campaign to elect a new state representative in my district.  Both were done because I felt they were the "right" thing to do.  Annoying the ultra conservatives was just a bonus.  (Kinda like Lynne joining the ACLU after 9/11.)

On another note I must be somewhat of a novice with message boards because I never am able to get back to where I've posted previously.  Forget about the fancy quote option.  I probably should reread the FAQs.  Anyone have any "tips" for me?  Suggestions would be appreciated.

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Re: What Stage are we in now???
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2006, 03:13:49 am »
Hey you guys?!  What'd I say?  I've only been briefly checking in the last few days - busy w/bringing Mom home, getting the sitter oriented, getting the house acceptable for a stranger to be in residence,etc... - and I find ya'll talking 'bout a post of mine!??

From what I've gleaned, juneaux, you're feeling called to more of an activist lifestyle?  I am supportive of you 100%.  It's one of my goals which will eventually get noted on my blog when i get to that point.  I'm trying to take care of some immediate familial needs first before reaching out for doing more in the community.  I'm trying to look at my goals as stepping stones - commit to one for several weeks until it becomes a 'habit' then move to the next one.  And I think you have to focus on the personal before you can reach out effectively.  In general, things are moving along so well...when I think about being too frustrated or tired, I go back to that safe Ennis/Jack place and find my spirit renewed.

So count me in with respect to this activist work.  For 5 years in the Boston area I was associated with a non-profit related to suicide prevention.  I don't know the #'s off the top of my head, but a substantial number of people (teens, in particular) seeking help about suicidal ideation were struggling with sexual orientation issues.  This experience led me to pflag which is a tremendous organization and does amazing work.  I don't know how much is available outside the more major cities.  Here in middle-of-nowhere-TN, the answer is essentially 'nada'.

Juneaux/Nancy- let me know what/any ideas you have about this activist business.  I think I posted elsewhere about a contemporary writer, Suzanne Brockmann, but I'll restate here:  Her son is gay and she is closely involved in PFLAG and Boston area gay-rights groups.  She started out as a Harlequin writer but now is writing in hardback.  One of her principal characters, Jules Cassidy, is a gay FBI agent.  There has been quite a good response from her readers to her publishers about wanting Jules to have a 'happily ever after' of his own.  This would be a first in so-called 'women's fiction'.  He has a significant subplot in Hot Target that was very well-received and I recommmend it if you enjoy reading romantic suspense.  BTW, Suzanne Brockmann was the 2nd(?) mainstream writer for the Harlequin line to feature an African American couple (Harvard's Education).  She is having a reader's weekend in Atlanta this summer, which I'm planning to attend.  I'm sure that if questioned she would have some good ideas about places people could make a difference with respect to this issue.

Good night, my friends...more talk tomorrow.
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Lynne
« Last Edit: April 26, 2006, 01:05:59 am by Lynne »
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Re: What Stage are we in now???
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2006, 04:27:12 am »


On another note I must be somewhat of a novice with message boards because I never am able to get back to where I've posted previously.  Forget about the fancy quote option.  I probably should reread the FAQs.  Anyone have any "tips" for me?  Suggestions would be appreciated.



Juneax....hi Girl!!  I was SOO lost too in the forum at first.  I'm getting a wee bit better now so let's see if I can direct you...kind of...in your 'lost posting' plea!! If you go to PROFILE...on the left side you'll see a box.  It says something like..."last posts" and stuff.  Click on there and it should take ya back to where you wanna be!!  HOPEFULLY... :-\

There's all sorts of stuff you can do there!!  OMG....but when Philip made me a moderator..?? LOL LOL  I clicked somewhere kind of accidentally and somehow sent something to ALL MEMBERS of the forum!!  YIKES!!!  Philip was soooo sweet when he alerted me!!  I THINK he was kind of laughing...hopefully!!  LOL

Hope it works "J".....Hugsssss....Nancy

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Re: What Stage are we in now???
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2006, 04:48:47 am »
Juneaux/Nancy- let me know what/any ideas you have about this activist business. 


Hi Lynne....t'ain't me...Lynne!!  It's Juneaux and Iris who are taking the path up our mountain.  I'm getting tooooo friggin old for that stuff now.  I DID my thing....believe me.  Now I'm content to hermit myself here with my PUPS and love all of you from here!!  I CAN, though, offer my love and help and support....for sure!! 

I'm soo glad to hear that you're settling in with Mom....Lynne.  You better be being a good girl....and telling  your MOM that we're sending ALL our love and good wishes.  OH...and a HUGE warm HUG too!!   Please don't overdo....Lynne.  Try and settle in around that 'campfire' once in a while....and feel the warmth and love. 

Did you say that you're having a live-in?  Oooo...if that's true...that will be SUCH a good move.  Then you can spend quality time with your MOM...instead of doing ALL the tending and such. 
Read Brokeback again to her!!  Watch "Walk the line"....good stuff like that.   :)

I like your idea of making your own..."stepping stones"" to pace yourself and get into that 'groove'. Sounds to me like a very good plan...Lynne. 

I KNOW that you're thinking..."Ok Nancy...when are you gonna start that blog?"   ;)
I promise I will Lynne...just been dealing with some outside stuff lately...but hanging in there!!  I, too, go and settle into my sweet smelling campsite...listen to the river rushing by...look up at the crystal clear sky and watch shooting stars with my 'boys'  Life is ALWAYS sweet there...isn't it?

Love all you guys....MUCH Love....Nancy  :-*
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Re: What Stage are we in now???
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2006, 01:01:10 am »


On another note I must be somewhat of a novice with message boards because I never am able to get back to where I've posted previously.  Forget about the fancy quote option.  I probably should reread the FAQs.  Anyone have any "tips" for me?  Suggestions would be appreciated.



Juneax....hi Girl!!  I was SOO lost too in the forum at first.  I'm getting a wee bit better now so let's see if I can direct you...kind of...in your 'lost posting' plea!! If you go to PROFILE...on the left side you'll see a box.  It says something like..."last posts" and stuff.  Click on there and it should take ya back to where you wanna be!!  HOPEFULLY... :-\

There's all sorts of stuff you can do there!!  OMG....but when Philip made me a moderator..?? LOL LOL  I clicked somewhere kind of accidentally and somehow sent something to ALL MEMBERS of the forum!!  YIKES!!!  Philip was soooo sweet when he alerted me!!  I THINK he was kind of laughing...hopefully!!  LOL

Hope it works "J".....Hugsssss....Nancy



It took me HOW long to get back to this message?!?!  :D   Oh, well~ I'm a work in progress never to be completed.  Thank you for the navigation tips, Nancy.  Believe it or not I have been getting around this site swifter than before.  My problem now is that I don't get to spend enough time on this site. (Work has been so hectic that I'm only able to login a few times a week.)  "Never enough time...never enough".
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Re: What Stage are we in now???
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2006, 12:07:26 pm »
Hi

I just joined tonight after a fellow Brokebacker pointed me in this direction... happy to meet more lovers of BBM...I am still in the crying , walking on air...falling ...you get the picture.....I only got to see the movie about 2 weeks ago...its changed me for good....yup ol Brokeback got me good...

just wanted to say Hello :)

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Re: What Stage are we in now???
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2006, 02:19:43 pm »
Welcome, Kea!  We're really glad to have you here.  I think most of us have been through all those stages in various order and keep going back for more.  Hang in there.  I know this movie has been a major catalyst for changes I am making in my own life.  I'm glad you're joining us.  And I like the quotes in your profile :-)
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Re: What Stage are we in now???
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2006, 04:13:21 am »
Hi Lynn

Thank you for the welcome......I am still looking around here but what a lovely place....I am delighted and trying to get another dear BBm friend to come by too....

Yes I am making changes too....where and how that movie has given me the strenght to do all I am doing.... I will never fully understand....I guess I dont need to really.......

...I feel like a drowing person pulled to the surface ,who takes that first breath of air......stunned ...afraid ...hopeful ...and alive....

what a wonderful feeling....

I have began writing again....basically fan fiction stuff/slash based on BBM.....which is good fun....

I am happy to be here... I am glad you liked the quotes...

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Re: What Stage are we in now???
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2006, 01:27:00 am »
Hi

I just joined tonight after a fellow Brokebacker pointed me in this direction... happy to meet more lovers of BBM...I am still in the crying , walking on air...falling ...you get the picture.....I only got to see the movie about 2 weeks ago...its changed me for good....yup ol Brokeback got me good...

just wanted to say Hello :)

Kea

Welcome to the Brokeback Broads!  After about a month my obsession took another form~ self analysis.  Believe it or not I haven't seen the moive in a few weeks but am taking off DVD release day to view it AT HOME ALONE.  (I'm functional but not yet cured of BBM fever~seriously doubt I ever will be.)
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Re: What Stage are we in now???
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2006, 02:44:41 pm »
I think I have been doing my fair share of that too...

its coming out in stuff I am writing as well....I guess its healty ..

my greatest fear now is there will come a day when it does not move my insides anymore...

I need to take my vitamin BBM daily as it keeps me on track..

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Re: What Stage are we in now???
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2006, 05:08:37 pm »




my greatest fear now is there will come a day when it foes not move my insides anymore...



hugs
Kea

Doubt that will occur.  I am amazed at how this movie STILL gets to me.  Owning the DVD is great.  I've only seen the movie once in its entirety (on DVD) but have viewed many scenes repeatedly.
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Re: What Stage are we in now???
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2006, 10:55:20 pm »
I just wanted to post here - to say, 'I'm still feeling it.'  How is everyone else doing?  I like having Jack and Ennis at home with me, being able to see things in the movie that I couldn't resolve at the theatre (poor lighting, sound, other people distractions, whatever...)  I sincerely hope this never quits me.

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Re: What Stage are we in now???
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2006, 03:35:23 am »
Hi Everyone.....I think that I've taken FIVE GIANT steps back to where I was....when Brokeback invaded my heart and soul.  All the grief and agony have taken ahold again....and they're wrenching my heart in two.  The GOOD part is that I AM handling it...a day at a time....slowly...quietly.  I'm at the other end of the spectrum...as far as my DVD is concerned.  I just cannot watch it right now.  It takes me right back to my first viewing...when I was stunned and SO overwhelmed with sadness.  So...I listen to the CD...endlessly....and try to take care of MYSELF right now.  I'm spending a LOT of time with my PUPS...who are my dearest companions.  The love in their eyes is so clear and true. 

I have a dear friend who is coming up to spend a few weeks with me.  Her sister is the gal who passed away a few days ago.  We'll sit in our jammies....cry together...laugh together...and heal together.  She's a 'silent brokaholic' but she's not online.  Soo...I'll bring her in here to read and share some of the beautiful thoughts that you've all given to me. Hopefully I'll step out of these doldrums that envelope me right now.  I think the mourning part is the easy part....the 'getting over it' part...is MUCH more difficult. 

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Re: What Stage are we in now???
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2006, 12:46:50 am »
Still weeping along with Jack and Ennis, (but not so much) and loving them so. And being able to hear and see them anytime right in my own living room. Iris
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Re: What Stage are we in now???
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2006, 01:28:59 am »
...And being able to hear and see them anytime right in my own living room. Iris

I play the soundtrack mornings getting ready for work, have the DVD on in the background when working or being on the forum, and go to sleep with the soundtrack...I've not had an attention span for any of the usual fiction I read; other music is annoying me, so I'm trying some non-fiction (Jimmy Carter at the moment) - my ability to concentrate seems to be better there.

My next priority really needs to be configuring my workstation for the BBM radio...I have a few technical problems to solve and I need to put them at the top of the list.


Nancy - I hope you enjoy getting together with your friend...let us know how it goes.

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Re: What Stage are we in now???
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2006, 10:04:22 am »
I'm with you all - still weeping along with Ennis and Jack.  I keep passing one of my extra DVDs on to friends to watch for the first or second times, and when they come back with stories of how it's affected them, I'm right back where I started, but just in a way.  I feel like a sponsor, now - I feel their pain because I've felt it, but I've come to terms with my own.  And yet I dream about them almost every night, now.  Not Jake and Heath.  Jack and Ennis.  They are always dressed in their blue and plaid shirts and hats and they are always young.  One way or another, they find their way in.  But it's always in a positive way, and I always awake feeling refreshed and relieved.  It must be the way my mind is working out the pain I feel for both of them.  I have never in my life dreamed of fictional characters.  I saw Shakespeare in Love 11 times in rapid succession years ago.  Was over the moon for Will Shakespeare.  Never once dreamed about him or Viola or any of them.

I was just talking with the first co-worker I lent the DVD to the week of April 4 who fell in love with Ennis and Jack like we all have.  She and I were trying to encourage another co-worker to watch it who is afraid to because she's deeply sensitive and scared it will just wreck her.  She just saw "Cold Mountain" for the first time and can't get *that* out of her head.  My other co-worker said, "Well, the thing about this is you feel an emotional connection to the characters that I didn't feel seeing that movie.  You feel like they're real, and you can't get them out of your head afterwards."  Of course, this put her off it even more.  I said, "But the thing is - that's a good thing.  You can't get them out of your head mostly because you really don't want to.  You love them like they're members of your own family."  The co-worker who's seen it goes, "Yes, YES!"

What I finally said to her that I think has convinced her to put aside her fear and watch it is that my husband, who she knows pretty well, actually said that this movie changed the way he thinks about gay men.  She knows him well enough to know that he is just about the most stubborn old mule that's ever walked the face of the Earth - you have to move mountains, so to speak, to change his mind about *anything*.  She said, "Wow.  OK.  I'll watch it.  But if it messes me up like it's messed you up, you're in big trouble."
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