Thanks atz!
You do pose great questions.
That scene, I find it massive, too violent, but such violence by a gang does occurr often... in many ways unfortunately. So to me, that murderous scene had to be realistic... in order to bring about change now, soonest, forever, in our our so-called civilisations and in other countries where that is current!!
Jake must have wanted it to be real for Jack!! ??
It is OK to live in a dream (gay or other), but one has to protect oneself; since even straights, females, lesbians, bisexuals, gays, others, need to protect themselves/ourselves, plus laws against such murderers need to ne increased and enforced, and that to my experience is too rare (as you probably heard of my cases, including my own life which I had to protect myself and others too often!!).
To me, your question are connected to this thread. But no one wants to talk about that scene, to my experience, why? I have been told not to even write the word murderers on Bettermost; strange isn't it? - May I use therefore use the word thugs to use Bush's word? And therefore lessen the scene?-As if it's Ok to murder an innocent person (gay especially and others)? To me, a murderer is a murderer; there is a strong diffrence between a murderer and a killer!! ??
May I ask you and to all: why do we seem to accept a murderer more than a gay man?? That seems so to me.
I still think that Jack was murdered!
Anyway, much can be said still, and I await your comment(s) if you like and that from others too,
keep care,
hugs!!