Um...Calculus?

[twocowboywaltz]

Anyone well-versed on this topic enough to provide a student with some help?

This is going to sound so random, but I'm doing some problems from my textbook at the moment. The section is indefinite integrals right now and antidifferentiation via substitution:

(let's see if I can do this here without totally screwing up any chances of conveying the problem!)

33. Take the indefinite integral of (...lol I don't know how to do that little squiggly line on the keyboard for integration):
       [(ln^6 x) / x] dx

Edit: Found a thing on the Web for equations!


I have no idea what that superscript "6" is doing there. I am -assuming- it's a typo and the book really means (ln x)^6 (because then I'd actually know how to do it), but that's only because I've never encountered this "superscript after a logarithm" before, and the book doesn't even explain this. I'm probably wrong on both counts, hehe.

Thanks to anyone taking the time to read this! I've been Googling this topic for a while now and come up with nothing.
Kinda weird to be posting this on a Brokeback forum (lol), but I'll take any help I can get!

[Ellemeno]

Good for you for asking for help, and good luck.  Pretty much everything in school was easy for me til I hit calculus.  I dropped the class because I was going to fail it.  So again, good luck! 

[injest]

If Wayne was on HE could help...he is very very smart!

[Clyde-B]

Hi twocowboy waltz,

You are correct, the superscript is an alternate notation for an exponent.  If it was a subscript, it would indicate a base.

ln^6(x) = [ln(x)]^6 

Putting it on the function makes it confusing, but it is acceptable.

[injest]

Hi twocowboy waltz,

You are correct, the superscript is an alternate notation for an exponent.  If it was a subscript, it would indicate a base.

ln^6(x) = [ln(x)]^6 

Putting it on the function makes it confusing, but it is acceptable.

There!! I knew there was some smart people on here...thanks Clyde!!

[twocowboywaltz]

Hi twocowboy waltz,

You are correct, the superscript is an alternate notation for an exponent.  If it was a subscript, it would indicate a base.

ln^6(x) = [ln(x)]^6 

Putting it on the function makes it confusing, but it is acceptable.

Thanks a lot!

I was fairly certain that if it were anything involving new material, it would have been brought to my attention either in the book or in my notes somewhere.
I knew it couldn't be a base, since natural log is base e. I had an inkling that it would be similar to trig functions such as:
                  sin^2 (x) = (sin x)^2
but I wasn't sure.

I am right about the above, though?
Man, why'd they have to make things so confusing? Geez, it's like they DON'T want people to understand what they're talking about.   
And my Calc teacher is always talking about how mathematicians "are lazy". Pfft. If they were truly lazy, they wouldn't be doing math, hehe.

[jstephens9]

I definitely wish you the best of luck. I am fairly knowledgeable about many subjects, but calculus is not one of them 

[Clyde-B]

Yep same deal,

They put the exponent on the function to indicate you're operating on the value of the function using the variable and not just the value of the variable by itself.

Personally, I prefer lots of parentheses - less confusing.

[sin(x)]^2

But it ain't as purty.

["Joseph Golden"]

I hate Maths, I gave it up for extra English.  

Now if we talking about a english subjest than i'd be a little more helpful.  

[twocowboywaltz]

I hate Maths, I gave it up for extra English.  

Now if we talking about a english subjest than i'd be a little more helpful.  

I admit it, I guess I'm a math geek. English is...tolerable for me. I used to love English a few years ago, when my teacher was really fun and engaging--and I actually felt like I was looking forward to each class, but the good days are over.

We're reading Shakespeare right now (Hamlet, actually), and while I don't hate it, I can't really say I like it either (SPARKNOTES saved my life!!).

I wish we could read stories that I actually was interested in. Like Brokeback, you know?

I'll be sure to come to you for help when I need it in English! 

["Joseph Golden"]

Maths geek Interesting!    

Shakesperes good. You just got to take the time to realise what his saying. Shakespere is all about love. And Brokeback is about love in a way. So when you reading Shakespeare. Replace the characters with Ennis and Jack. That way when your thinking about Brokeback. It becomes proactive. This helped me a lot.

I did a essay senior year on Brokeback mountain. It was about all the metaphors i the movie. I spent ages working on it and it came out really good in my option. When i handed it in i got a F. My subject material wasn't appropriate. The theacther never embarrassed me or told anyone. But his clear homophobic disapproval was so much worse. I got a second option from someone else. I got a A - Well it deserved that. 

[injest]

Maths geek Interesting!    

Shakesperes good. You just got to take the time to realise what his saying. Shakespere is all about love. And Brokeback is about love in a way. So when you reading Shakespeare. Replace the characters with Ennis and Jack. That way when your thinking about Brokeback. It becomes proactive. This helped me a lot.

I did a essay senior year on Brokeback mountain. It was about all the metaphors i the movie. I spent ages working on it and it came out really good in my option. When i handed it in i got a F. My subject material wasn't appropriate. The theacther never embarrassed me or told anyone. But his clear homophobic disapproval was so much worse. I got a second option from someone else. I got a A - Well it deserved that. 

well that stinks!!

 

[twocowboywaltz]

Maths geek Interesting!    

Shakesperes good. You just got to take the time to realise what his saying. Shakespere is all about love. And Brokeback is about love in a way. So when you reading Shakespeare. Replace the characters with Ennis and Jack. That way when your thinking about Brokeback. It becomes proactive. This helped me a lot.

I did a essay senior year on Brokeback mountain. It was about all the metaphors i the movie. I spent ages working on it and it came out really good in my option. When i handed it in i got a F. My subject material wasn't appropriate. The theacther never embarrassed me or told anyone. But his clear homophobic disapproval was so much worse. I got a second option from someone else. I got a A - Well it deserved that. 

Hm..I might just do that! Romeo and Juliet...meet Ennis and Jack. They're a couple of ranchers, and all. Soooo...yeah, you're fired. They're hired. Take a walk. 


On another note, ugh, I can't believe that the teacher would give you an F on something you worked so hard for, unless you were WAY off topic, like analyzing BBM metaphors when asked to analyze uh...Wuthering Heights (Heathcliff and Catherine...meet Ennis and Jack...hehe  ). I did start writing literary analysis essay myself on Brokeback last year (the assignment was to write an essay on any movie--how could I NOT choose our boys?), but never finished it because the teacher changed her mind and dropped the assignment.

Some people are really impossible! 

["Joseph Golden"]

Nah, It was a analysis on the specific metaphors in movies. He made lots of suggestions. But Brokeback wasn't there and i believe Brokeback is the best for metaphors. He said something like Annie prolux writing on Shipping news is appropriate. But a story about to gay cowboys whole unconvincingly falls in loves is not.  BULLSHIT

I turn every straight love affair into a gay one. It helps with accepting the idea that the world is normal in my standards.

Some people have small minded country views on the world. The type that comes after you with a tire iron 

Non of them here  I hope.

[injest]

Nah, It was a analysis on the specific metaphors in movies. He made lots of suggestions. But Brokeback wasn't there and i believe Brokeback is the best for metaphors. He said something like Annie prolux writing on Shipping news is appropriate. But a story about to gay cowboys whole unconvincingly falls in loves is not.  BULLSHIT

I turn every straight love affair into a gay one. It helps with accepting the idea that the world is normal in my standards.

Some people have small minded country views on the world. The type that comes after you with a tire iron 

Non of them here  I hope.

I dont' think you will find any of those kind here...

[twocowboywaltz]

I dont' think you will find any of those kind here...

...cause they get chased out with tire irons when they're found! 

I agree that Brokeback is chock full of metaphors, and for a teacher to say that it isn't...well, he must not know what he's talking about. 

I turn every straight love affair into a gay one. It helps with accepting the idea that the world is normal in my standards.

Admittedly, I find myself doing this a lot too. Reading about a Jane? Bam. She's a Jack. That sort of thing.

["Joseph Golden"]

...cause they get chased out with tire irons when they're found!

Yeah, we have our own band of brothers. It's a pity we all don't have our own Brokeback Mountain we can live and all the tire iron type get chased away. By the type that gets chased. Do you have you own Tire iron folks where you are?. I do 

It makes my universe turn. All of us are born gay. The straight are weird. And they get chased by tire irons. I cant seing our type doing that though. But im sure you understand the dream i have.

 

[twocowboywaltz]

Ewwwww. Straight people ARE weird! Haha. (j/k to all the straights reading!) The tire iron people hide in the ground, waiting for unsuspecting victims to pass by before they leap up to strike! They're blind like moles but stubborn in their ways like weeds. 


Unfortunately, I do have the tire iron type here. Yeah, my dad is the tire iron type, and it's like treading on eggshells around him because whenever he opens his mouth to talk to me, I flinch and go "oh god, he knows" and prepare myself for the worst. I really, really hope they're not everywhere, cause if they're not, that's the place I'd like to live. 

["Joseph Golden"]

Unfortunately, I do have the tire iron type here. Yeah, my dad is the tire iron type, and it's like treading on eggshells around him because whenever he opens his mouth to talk to me, I flinch and go "oh god, he knows" and prepare myself for the worst. I really, really hope they're not everywhere, cause if they're not, that's the place I'd like to live.

Dad's are the worse. When my real dad heard a rumor about me. He gave me this book. It was "How to control and elliminate unwanted or unexcepted desires" 

I dont know where he got it. But it all about how to not be homosexual. I burned t in the end. Theres no way i'm passing that on. 

I belive there is a place. It's called Brokeback Mountain. And we are all searching for it. One day we both will find it and i hope its the same one. 

[Lynne]

I belive there is a place. It's called Brokeback Mountain. And we are all searching for it. One day we both will find it and i hope its the same one. 

That's a beautiful and profound statement, Melb_boy.  I've been following your story and apologize for not posting before now.  I'm an 39-year old bisexual woman - for me my Brokeback Mountain was a place I found around the age of 19 but lost touch with so here I am 20 years later trying to reacquaint myself with who I really am.

Second thing - my minor in college was Southern American literature - Clearly, I'm no renown authority, but there are a lot of similarities in the Southern American lit tradition (like Faulkner, O'Connor) and American Western writers like Proulx.  Any teacher who thinks that Brokeback Mountain is not worthy of analysis vis a vis metaphor is missing some critical brain cells.  And as you say is likely prejudiced because of the homosexual nature of the story.  But jeez, hasn't this teacher ever read any Oscar Wilde??!  Viriginia Woolfe??!  I'd love to read your paper if you feel up to sharing it.  I sketched out an essay about the Christian symbolism in the movie in the early days - it needs polishing but I'd be happy to share.

-Lynne

[Ellemeno]

I did a essay senior year on Brokeback mountain. It was about all the metaphors i the movie. I spent ages working on it and it came out really good in my option. When i handed it in i got a F. My subject material wasn't appropriate. The theacther never embarrassed me or told anyone. But his clear homophobic disapproval was so much worse. I got a second option from someone else. I got a A - Well it deserved that. 

Well, you've got us - we'd LOVE to read about the metaphors in Brokeback Mountain.  If you aren't ready to post it, I'd be honored and very interested if you would PM me your essay.  Welcome to BetterMost!  Clarissa

[ifyoucantfixit]

          Me too.  Me too.  I would like to read it as well.  Looking forward to seeing it...I hope you saved it....