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Re: Heath Ledger - the grieving thread
« Reply #540 on: January 25, 2008, 12:33:05 pm »
I want to cut everyone slack in how they immediately handle shock and grief.  I have never been a bar and club person, but I sure see that some are.  I imagine she was just trying to feel better, and that it had nothing to do with disrespect for Heath.

Good point.

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Re: Heath Ledger - the grieving thread
« Reply #541 on: January 25, 2008, 12:49:36 pm »
Still, you had me laughing at this: I was even looking forward to defending him when he got old, bald and possibly Brando-fat and embarrassing.  (Of course, by then I'd be at best, a senile old man in Depends trying to feel-up disgusted orderlies, but that's beside the point.)  ;D


Thanks Meryl, I thought it was pretty funny myself.  I had just watched Away From Her I guess that's why I put that in, one of my biggest fears is being stricken with dementia.

I also appreciate the words of support from everyone else.  I feel so much better today, still sad, but healthy sad.  I could actually look at the EW cover with the gorgeous Heath photo, and smile.  I think I might even get it framed.

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Re: Heath Ledger - the grieving thread
« Reply #542 on: January 25, 2008, 01:14:52 pm »
The point is that the right thing to do if one finds someone not breathing and in cardiac arrest, is to call 911 and start CPR without delay, and to don't stop till the ambulance arrives.

For people who are in an "I want to do something" mode, getting trained in CPR (or getting re-trained, if you're like me) might help. (It might help with the grieving, and it might mean that you'll be able to make a difference for someone else someday.)
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Re: Heath Ledger - the grieving thread
« Reply #543 on: January 25, 2008, 01:23:27 pm »
For people who are in an "I want to do something" mode, getting trained in CPR (or getting re-trained, if you're like me) might help. (It might help with the grieving, and it might mean that you'll be able to make a difference for someone else someday.)

Good idea, Mel. Where's the best place to look for local classes? And how many hours of training are required?



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Re: Heath Ledger - the grieving thread
« Reply #544 on: January 25, 2008, 01:33:17 pm »
Good idea, Mel. Where's the best place to look for local classes? And how many hours of training are required?

I think it's a six-hour course or so? I suspect Leslie or another health professional knows. It includes infant CPR and restricted airway training, too.

Groups that teach classes:

American Red Cross: http://www.redcross.org/services/hss/courses/
American Heart Association: http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=3011764

CPR is also covered in first aid, wilderness first aid, and wilderness first responder classes. One of the times I took it, it was taught by a nurse who was part of the local volunteer ambulance squad. Another time, it was taught by the head lifeguard at a beach where I worked. But I think the Red Cross and the AHA make it easy to look for classes on the web. For anyone in a small town, the local emergency service groups (fire, search & rescue, etc) probably would know.
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Re: Heath Ledger - the grieving thread
« Reply #545 on: January 25, 2008, 01:40:14 pm »
Thanks, Mel! I always meant to take infant CPR when my sons were small. But like most of my ideas, it never come to pass.


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Re: Heath Ledger - the grieving thread
« Reply #546 on: January 25, 2008, 02:09:47 pm »
Anyone else thinking that the Memorial Service that is supposedly going to be held in Los Angeles is going to be the Paps' wet dream?  :-\ I wonder how they wiill manage keeping that sufficiently private and dignified. I hope that it doesn't turn into a loud disrespectful media circus....

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Re: Heath Ledger - the grieving thread
« Reply #547 on: January 25, 2008, 02:11:48 pm »
Los Angeles = loud disrespectful media circus....
I don't see how it will be anything but.  :-\
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Re: Heath Ledger - the grieving thread
« Reply #548 on: January 25, 2008, 02:33:03 pm »
Anyone else thinking that the Memorial Service that is supposedly going to be held in Los Angeles is going to be the Paps' wet dream?  :-\ I wonder how they wiill manage keeping that sufficiently private and dignified. I hope that it doesn't turn into a loud disrespectful media circus....

If you're looking for a private and dignified memorial service, one will be held in Denver on February 9, officiated by our own RodneyWY! Check out the Grieving Forum for all the details or go to http://www.heathandjackie.com/.

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Re: Heath Ledger - the grieving thread
« Reply #549 on: January 25, 2008, 02:47:04 pm »
Heath is dead. Do you f!cking understand!!!!!!!!!!!

 you are chatting some nonsense. where is the grief?