Author Topic: On This Tragic Occasion... (Read 46635 times)

Phillip Dampier · « **on:** January 22, 2008, 07:05:49 pm »

On this most tragic occasion, I see a large number of familiar faces of folks who have found their way back to our community to come together and grieve this most terrible news.

The BetterMost family will be here for you, as we always have been, and this forum has been established to allow you to share your thoughts and get support from one another. We will be planning several events to help the community through today's news, and you will find all such information right here.

If you've been away for a long time, I welcome you back. Our journeys together carry forward, but we pause and reflect on the remarkable performance of a young actor who changed the lives of so many of us... forever.

Brown Eyes · « **Reply #1 on:** January 22, 2008, 07:06:56 pm »

Thank you Phillip. This forum is a very nice idea and gesture following this horrible news.

Artiste · « **Reply #2 on:** January 22, 2008, 07:14:43 pm »

Good idea Phillip!

I always figured that Heath was on a mission!!

And did it to the best he could...

hugs to him and to you all too!!

TheravadaAskesis · « **Reply #3 on:** January 22, 2008, 07:15:35 pm »

Quote from: Phillip Dampier on January 22, 2008, 07:05:49 pm

Our journeys together carry forward, but we pause and reflect on the remarkable performance of a young actor who changed the lives of so many of us... forever.

Thank you Phillip for putting words to what I can't right now. Brokeback changed my life and I can't believe someone who effected me so deeply is gone. I only wish we could have given some of the hope we received from Heath's performance back to Heath himself.

mariez · « **Reply #4 on:** January 22, 2008, 07:16:20 pm »

Beautiful words, Phillip. Thank you.

Quote from: Phillip Dampier on January 22, 2008, 07:05:49 pm

.....the remarkable performance of a young actor who changed the lives of so many of us... forever.

So true.

Marie

Katie77 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 22, 2008, 07:17:03 pm »

HE WILL NEVER BE GONE......HE LIVES IN OUR HEARTS.....HE LIVES ON OUR BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN.....

serious crayons · « **Reply #6 on:** January 22, 2008, 07:20:38 pm »

This is a good idea. I suspect some old friends may find their way back here to express their sadness.

louisev · « **Reply #7 on:** January 22, 2008, 07:23:04 pm »

I had one very powerful reaction, which was to delete the short drabbles I had written that speculated on the method Heath used to transform himself into Ennis. Unlike other writers of "Real person slash" I did not speculate about a real life relationship between Heath and Jake, but instead, about Ennis taking on a life of his own and dominating the daily life of Heath. I had a feeling of urgency to remove my speculative writing, because they seemed to me to be eerily prophetic of whatever agony led him to his last moments today. It is really the only gesture I can make. What occurs to me now is that I hope other authors who have written RPS stories about Heath's private life, might be moved to do the same.

Kelda · « **Reply #8 on:** January 22, 2008, 07:25:38 pm »

Quote from: ineedcrayons on January 22, 2008, 07:20:38 pm

This is a good idea. I suspect some old friends may find their way back here to express their sadness.

Many already have - which is the silver lining to this bad bad horrible cloud.

henrypie · « **Reply #9 on:** January 22, 2008, 07:57:57 pm »

Hello friends,
I have nothing to say but thanks for being the church I can come to at such a sad time as this. My warmest wishes to you all!
Sarah

Shuggy · « **Reply #10 on:** January 22, 2008, 09:15:11 pm »

Might this cheer you up a little? Some mad preacher is going to say it's God's wrath for sympathetically portraying a ho mo sexual...

EDelMar · « **Reply #11 on:** January 22, 2008, 09:28:59 pm »

mario · « **Reply #12 on:** January 22, 2008, 09:32:46 pm »

we came here originally crying, trying desperately to make sense of what we had just seen on screen.....and found a community of the like-minded, of the fine, good people of this world......and now we come again crying, seeking solace in our far-flung community, world-wide actually......James Dean, River Phoenix, and now Heath Ledger......the gods giveth, the gods taketh away.....whether suicide, or drug overdose....doesn't matter really....he is gone......and we mourn....oh how we mourn......and will continue to mourn....the characters, the roles he could've had, would have created....all lost now......Batman is a must see now.....tho not as we imagined it.....i prefer to remember him as Cassanova, which i saw after BBM......so carefree, so light, so lovely....so having fun.....oh my golden boy, yu have broken my heart.

Shasta542 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 22, 2008, 10:29:40 pm »

Quote from: EDelMar on January 22, 2008, 09:28:59 pm

That's beautiful, EDelMar.

Wishes · « **Reply #14 on:** January 22, 2008, 10:50:41 pm »

Thank you for making this special section Phillip. I know everyone needs it.

Rayn · « **Reply #15 on:** January 22, 2008, 11:01:35 pm »

I just got the news on-line in Korea here...and I'm sitting here in shocked tears.... I can hardly believe it. It feels much like Jack dying in the movie only this it true life. I know everyone will be terribly upset today and for a good while we will feel a great sadness. Different scenes from Brokeback Mt keep appearing and disappearing in my mind. I'm so sad and even if I tell myself to be thankful for a superb actor to have played a role that gave our community such a great gift, I can't feel anything today but grief. I hope to see you here my friends, we need each other now.

Loved in Life, Loved in Death

Rayn · « **Reply #16 on:** January 22, 2008, 11:21:26 pm »

Quote from: Shuggy on January 22, 2008, 09:15:11 pm

Might this cheer you up a little? Some mad preacher is going to say it's God's wrath for sympathetically portraying a ho mo sexual...

It doesn't cheer me, and if any preacher or lay person were take a shot like that by saying such a stupid thing they would be so off the mark concerning the Divine that the best thing to say in reply would be... "We're tired of your dumb ass missin'!" Then send them some pics of what love can look like just to excite them! If I keep such images in my mind today, they help soften the sadness somewhat. ..

Flashframe777 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 22, 2008, 11:34:58 pm »

Don't know if I am posting in the right place, but a report says that the death was accidental, and that Heath was suffering from pneumonia at the time.

Rayn · « **Reply #18 on:** January 22, 2008, 11:42:25 pm »

Quote from: Phillip Dampier on January 22, 2008, 07:05:49 pm

The BetterMost family will be here for you, as we always have been, and this forum has been established to allow you to share your thoughts and get support from one another. We will be planning several events to help the community through today's news, and you will find all such information right here.

Thanks Phil. Rayn

j.U.d.E. · « **Reply #19 on:** January 22, 2008, 11:47:49 pm »

Quote from: Flashframe777 on January 22, 2008, 11:34:58 pm

Don't know if I am posting in the right place, but a report says that the death was accidental, and that Heath was suffering from pneumonia at the time.

Really? If this is true, I'd be hurting less. He took those pills then, just to be able to sleep a little...

Still, so sad.

j.U.d.E.

Shasta542 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 22, 2008, 11:58:42 pm »

Quote from: j. U. d. E. on January 22, 2008, 11:47:49 pm

Really? If this is true, I'd be hurting less. He took those pills then, just to be able to sleep a little...

Still, so sad.

j.U.d.E.

All accounts I've heard are totally discounting the suicide theory, Jude. I don't think anyone believes that to be the case at all. Sad, no matter what, but -- like you said --some comfort in the fact that it wasn't intentional.

This from an NYT interview in November:

“Last week I probably slept an average of two hours a night,” Ledger told the newspaper. “I couldn’t stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going.” He said he took two Ambien pills, which only worked for an hour, the paper said.

Rayn · « **Reply #21 on:** January 23, 2008, 12:10:36 am »

Quote from: Shasta542 on January 22, 2008, 11:58:42 pm

“Last week I probably slept an average of two hours a night,” Ledger told the newspaper. “I couldn’t stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going.” He said he took two Ambien pills, which only worked for an hour, the paper said.

Why was he in so much pain. Depression? Exhaustion for working too hard? What was goin' on with him, does anyone know yet?

Front-Ranger · « **Reply #22 on:** January 23, 2008, 12:24:22 am »

Quote from: mario on January 22, 2008, 09:32:46 pm

.i prefer to remember him as Cassanova, which i saw after BBM......so carefree, so light, so lovely....so having fun.....oh my golden boy, yu have broken my heart.

I feel the same way Mario (welcome, BTW). I was trying to xplain in chat just a couple nites ago why I liked Heath in Casanova so much. It was so great to see him smiling and a twinkle in his eye! He said one time that he took that part just to shake off the gloom that he felt after BBM, but I fear he wasn't able to totally shake it.

Lumière · « **Reply #23 on:** January 23, 2008, 12:46:54 am »

I think I'll logoff for a while..
It felt good to write this little poem.

Rest In Peace

May you sleep softly tonight
Rest your head upon the clouds
Close your eyes and sleep tight

May you sleep softly and find rest
Then may you soar far away from this place
Back home, to your very own blissful nest

May you find solace on this and all days
Look down often with a smile
Rest in peace. Rest in peace for always.

Brokie Hugs to all,
~M

David In Indy · « **Reply #24 on:** January 23, 2008, 12:52:49 am »

God, that poem is so beautiful and so is that picture! I wish I could do that! Thanks Milli!

j.U.d.E. · « **Reply #25 on:** January 23, 2008, 01:15:29 am »

Quote from: Shasta542 on January 22, 2008, 11:58:42 pm

All accounts I've heard are totally discounting the suicide theory, Jude. I don't think anyone believes that to be the case at all. Sad, no matter what, but -- like you said --some comfort in the fact that it wasn't intentional.

This from an NYT interview in November:

“Last week I probably slept an average of two hours a night,” Ledger told the newspaper. “I couldn’t stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going.” He said he took two Ambien pills, which only worked for an hour, the paper said.

Thank you Shasta.

I wonder then, why was he found lying on the floor and not 'asleep' in his bed? I'm asking silly questions, I know, but it's just all so unbelievable..

I just really can't grasp it yet.. I'm between angry, sadness and disbelieffff..

j.U.d.E.

David In Indy · « **Reply #26 on:** January 23, 2008, 01:32:33 am »

Quote from: Rayn on January 23, 2008, 12:10:36 am

Why was he in so much pain. Depression? Exhaustion for working too hard? What was goin' on with him, does anyone know yet?

From what I can gather, he was haunted and distraught over his role as the Joker in the new Bat Man movie because the Joker is so evil and hateful. Apparently he struggled with the role and it kept him up at night thinking about it. This is what I've been hearing from the media reports.

Once again this just shows us what a brilliant and dedicated actor Heath was. He was willing to take on and tackle any role, no matter how difficult.

Poor Heath!

LauraGigs · « **Reply #27 on:** January 23, 2008, 02:02:19 am »

Quote

I wonder then, why was he found lying on the floor and not 'asleep' in his bed? I'm asking silly questions, I know, but it's just all so unbelievable..

Hi sweetie.

They retracted that. Apparently he was found on his bed, and was moved to the floor as they tried to resuscitate him from apparent cardiac arrest.

belbbmfan · « **Reply #28 on:** January 23, 2008, 02:17:45 am »

It's 7 am. I'm sitting here shaking and crying. I just heard. I can't believe it.

Quote from: Phillip Dampier on January 22, 2008, 07:05:49 pm

On this most tragic occasion, I see a large number of familiar faces of folks who have found their way back to our community to come together and grieve this most terrible news.

The BetterMost family will be here for you, as we always have been, and this forum has been established to allow you to share your thoughts and get support from one another. We will be planning several events to help the community through today's news, and you will find all such information right here.

If you've been away for a long time, I welcome you back. Our journeys together carry forward, but we pause and reflect on the remarkable performance of a young actor who changed the lives of so many of us... forever.

thank you Phillip!

Meryl · « **Reply #29 on:** January 23, 2008, 02:21:00 am »

((((((((((Fabienne))))))))))

Aloysius J. Gleek · « **Reply #30 on:** January 23, 2008, 02:29:39 am »

Meryl, I bet you're sniffing as much as I am--and 1:30 am!

I've got to go to bed NOW or I'll be up all night--

Hope to see you at Starbucks tomorrow--call me!

xxxxx!
John

j.U.d.E. · « **Reply #31 on:** January 23, 2008, 02:38:55 am »

Fabienne!

j.U.d.E.

Ellemeno · « **Reply #32 on:** January 23, 2008, 02:48:27 am »

Silver lining - Lynne is coming over now, at 11pm.

SFEnnisSF · « **Reply #33 on:** January 23, 2008, 03:56:40 am »

Quote from: Ellemeno on January 23, 2008, 02:48:27 am

Silver lining - Lynne is coming over now, at 11pm.

Lynne is up that a way?

I'm glad you could be there fer eachother now.

Ellemeno · « **Reply #34 on:** January 23, 2008, 04:38:27 am »

Quote from: sfericsf on January 23, 2008, 03:56:40 am

Lynne is up that a way?

I'm glad you could be there fer eachother now.

I know. She's here now, right here in my living room. We just got done talking about you, Eric and how it good it was for her to spend time with you.

Oregondoggie · « **Reply #35 on:** January 23, 2008, 04:39:38 am »

Quote from: EDelMar on January 22, 2008, 09:28:59 pm

If postcards get up there to Heaven, this is it. Thank you, EDelMar.

BBMGrandma · « **Reply #36 on:** January 23, 2008, 06:50:22 am »

What a sad sad day!! I could hardly believe what I was seeing....hearing!! I felt so VERY DEEPLY....this LOSS.... and I had to connect with all of you!! Or I should say....RECONNECT!! I feel as though I've lost a dear friend...a friend who's heart sits so lightly inside my heart and always will.

Sleep deeply my dearest Heath....you've ALWAYS been my prince!!!

With Love....from this "Ole Grandma...."

Ellemeno · « **Reply #37 on:** January 23, 2008, 06:51:24 am »

Nancy, it's great to see you here. Sad.

BBMGrandma · « **Reply #38 on:** January 23, 2008, 07:04:26 am »

Thanks ELL....a sad return but this place always seems like home!! I've been absent tooo long.....I believe!!

jmstwist · « **Reply #39 on:** January 23, 2008, 10:03:51 am »

Words cannot be adequately expressed by me right now. I found out late yesterday of this tragedy and Mike and I were in shock all evening. Heath's performance helped to change my life and through forums on BBM helped to bring me here. It's cold, damp and rainy here in my part of Tx and that's exactly the mood my heart is in, I will sorely miss him and send his family in the US and Australia all my deepest sympathy. I know a little something about sleeping pills and know from first hand experience just one Ambien will put you out for hours. To all who read this, PLEASE be carefull with sleeping pills, as we all now know, they are dangerous as shit.
All my love to Heath, Rest in Peace brother, may your soul know only happiness now.
Jim

horo36 · « **Reply #40 on:** January 23, 2008, 11:49:28 am »

Wow, incredible! We had just heard of the tragic news this morning. It's unfortunate how his life reflected the the onscreen tragic lifes of the characters in Brokeback. He was way too young to die just like Jack did in the story. Hello to all and especially FrontRanger and Phillip...keep the dream alive at Bettermost!

-Cory & Marie from Calgary

sparkle_motion · « **Reply #41 on:** January 23, 2008, 11:53:47 am »

I'm so glad this place is here for all of us during this dark time. I instantly thought of you guys, when I heard the news. I realized that the only people that would understand me being devastated about someone I had never even met, would be the warm, caring family here.

Artiste · « **Reply #42 on:** January 23, 2008, 12:11:25 pm »

Love your photo creation EDelMar, so lovingly!!

Am sure Heath loves it too!!

And smiles now at you and at all of us, happy he had been as Ennis!!

Hugs to you and to all... May we see you forever with such truck Heath to ride us all in Ennis' heart!!!!

Berit · « **Reply #43 on:** January 23, 2008, 12:17:11 pm »

I'll say as BBMGrandma...it feels like I lost a dear friend.....or one who could have been one....

Thank you for this thread

My thoughts goes to his family i Australia, to Michelle and their daughter

Berit

Ellemeno · « **Reply #44 on:** January 23, 2008, 01:17:32 pm »

Stacey, Berit, everyone, so good to have you here.

mvansand76 · « **Reply #45 on:** January 23, 2008, 01:53:55 pm »

Hi everybody,

Just got home from a physics conference in the south of Holland.

I can't believe today. I woke up this morning in my hotel room, turned on the TV and the first thing I saw was the news about Heath. All I could think of at first was "Poor Matilda!", she will have to miss her sweet father who loved her so much. Then I thought of how much I was looking forward to all the great roles Heath was going to play in the future and how much I am going to miss his presence on the big screen.

Poor Matilda. Poor family and friends. And poor us for having to miss his extraordinary talent...

You will always be in our hearts, Heath! Thank you for everything you have given us....

souxi · « **Reply #46 on:** January 23, 2008, 02:03:30 pm »

Well it,s the end of the day, and I still can,t get my head round this awful news, as I,m sure none of you can either. Michelle must be devasted, as of course must poor Jake. He,s lost his best friend. It,s just so sad. This might sound silly but whenever I look at a picture of Heath now, I,ve got a tune in my head. The one played at the end of BMM when Ennis shut the wardrobe door in the trailer. I can,t get it out of my head. God bless you Heath.
Souxi. xxx

mvansand76 · « **Reply #47 on:** January 23, 2008, 02:21:10 pm »

Quote from: souxi on January 23, 2008, 02:03:30 pm

Well it,s the end of the day, and I still can,t get my head round this awful news, as I,m sure none of you can either. Michelle must be devasted, as of course must poor Jake. He,s lost his best friend. It,s just so sad. This might sound silly but whenever I look at a picture of Heath now, I,ve got a tune in my head. The one played at the end of BMM when Ennis shut the wardrobe door in the trailer. I can,t get it out of my head. God bless you Heath.
Souxi. xxx

I know what you mean.... just now they had a small documentary about him on TV here in Holland and they ended it with Ennis's "I guess I'll see you around then..."

Lumière · « **Reply #48 on:** January 23, 2008, 02:41:26 pm »

I wish to send out Brokie Hugs to you all..

~M

TOoP/Bruce · « **Reply #49 on:** January 23, 2008, 02:50:27 pm »

Given that one of Heath's last films was "I'm Not There", I think this poem appropriate:

I Am Not There

by Mary Elizabeth Frye (1932)

Do not stand at my grave and weep;
I am not there. I do not sleep.

I am a thousand winds that blow.
I am the diamond glint on snow.
I am the sun on ripened grain.
I am the gentle Autumn rain.

When you awake in the morning hush,
I am the swift, uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in circling flight.
I am the soft starlight at night.

Do not stand at my grave and cry;
I am not there. I did not die.

In deepest appreciation for all the lives you so deeply touched in your too short life.

BBM-Cat · « **Reply #50 on:** January 23, 2008, 02:51:04 pm »

Quote from: souxi on January 23, 2008, 02:03:30 pm

Well it,s the end of the day, and I still can,t get my head round this awful news, as I,m sure none of you can either. Michelle must be devasted, as of course must poor Jake. He,s lost his best friend. It,s just so sad. This might sound silly but whenever I look at a picture of Heath now, I,ve got a tune in my head. The one played at the end of BMM when Ennis shut the wardrobe door in the trailer. I can,t get it out of my head. God bless you Heath.
Souxi. xxx

Darn it if the radio station didn't play 'The Wings' as I was driving to work this morning while they did a news update on Heath. To hear 'The Wings' was such a a painful reminder. Wished I could have pulled off the road.

belbbmfan · « **Reply #51 on:** January 23, 2008, 02:56:15 pm »

Quote from: TOoP/Bruce on January 23, 2008, 02:50:27 pm

Given that one of Heath's last films was "I'm Not There", I think this poem appropriate:

I Am Not There

by Mary Elizabeth Frye (1932)

Do not stand at my grave and weep;
I am not there. I do not sleep.

I am a thousand winds that blow.
I am the diamond glint on snow.
I am the sun on ripened grain.
I am the gentle Autumn rain.

When you awake in the morning hush,
I am the swift, uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in circling flight.
I am the soft starlight at night.

Do not stand at my grave and cry;
I am not there. I did not die.

In deepest appreciation for all the lives you so deeply touched in your too short life.

Bruce, thank you for posting this poem.

Lumière · « **Reply #52 on:** January 23, 2008, 02:57:31 pm »

It is helping to write these little poems.
I posted it in my blog, but thought to bring it here too.

You Rise Still

you slipped away
unobserved
like a silent whisper.
your spirit rises
like soft strands of smoke
from a quenched candle.
you rise far
from this chaos and loss
you rise still.

there is more
beyond this earthly vale
distant shores
where footprints remain
forever etched in sand.
you are there
where shadows are not
where your sun gleams
you are there
you rise still.

you slipped away
in the light of day
I pray you felt no fear
close to the end
for you rise still.
bits of your soul breathe
in these bereft hearts
you are here
even as you rise far
from this restless haze
you rise still.

Rest In Peace.

mancityjinx · « **Reply #53 on:** January 23, 2008, 03:13:13 pm »

Wow I cannot believe that Heath Ledger passed away. I am still in shock at such a waste of a lovely man with so much talent. I feel so sorry for his family and Michelle and Matilda. Rest in Peace Heath...

Ellemeno · « **Reply #54 on:** January 23, 2008, 03:18:37 pm »

Hey Hillary, good to see you.

joey · « **Reply #55 on:** January 23, 2008, 05:05:50 pm »

I have never posted before, but as a close friend to southend.md I have met a number of you, and feel strongly that this occasion must be acknowledged. In trying to understand what Heath Ledger's death and life can mean, I have reflected on his strengths as an actor: the ability to "put on his character like a coat" (to quote Michael Chekov) - and to do that with a magical ability to show us both the color and line of the coat and his own being under it. I usually think of dancers as those who reveal themselves most in performance. But this paradox of Heath's - to be so revealing and yet so completely in character - is part of what made him so mesmerizing to me. His authenticity is the gift I treasure most.

Joey

Phillip Dampier · « **Reply #56 on:** January 23, 2008, 05:10:12 pm »

I heard from Meryl earlier this afternoon, who placed a card for BetterMost, and a picture of our journey to the Kananaskis Lakes this past summer, as a token of thought in front of his apartment in SoHo on behalf of all of us, at the impromptu shrine.

It's good to see so many familiar faces making their way back to our community over this tragic event. We are part of a big family here, and I hope that you will stick around and remain with us in the days and weeks ahead. We can get through this. Together, we can get through anything.

MaineWriter · « **Reply #57 on:** January 23, 2008, 05:10:46 pm »

Thank you, Joey, for that, and welcome.

Leslie

Scott6373 · « **Reply #58 on:** January 23, 2008, 05:11:52 pm »

Well said Joey!

Kelda · « **Reply #59 on:** January 23, 2008, 05:12:42 pm »

Quote from: Phillip Dampier on January 23, 2008, 05:10:12 pm

I heard from Meryl earlier this afternoon, who placed a card for BetterMost, and a picture of our journey to the Kananaskis Lakes this past summer, as a token of thought in front of his apartment in SoHo on behalf of all of us, at the impromptu shrine.

It's good to see so many familiar faces making their way back to our community over this tragic event. We are part of a big family here, and I hope that you will stick around and remain with us in the days and weeks ahead. We can get through this. Together, we can get through anything.

Thanks Meryl and Joey

Jeff Wrangler · « **Reply #60 on:** January 23, 2008, 05:13:07 pm »

Quote from: joey on January 23, 2008, 05:05:50 pm

I have never posted before, but as a close friend to southend.md I have met a number of you, and feel strongly that this occasion must be acknowledged. In trying to understand what Heath Ledger's death and life can mean, I have reflected on his strengths as an actor: the ability to "put on his character like a coat" (to quote Michael Chekov) - and to do that with a magical ability to show us both the color and line of the coat and his own being under it. I usually think of dancers as those who reveal themselves most in performance. But this paradox of Heath's - to be so revealing and yet so completely in character - is part of what made him so mesmerizing to me. His authenticity is the gift I treasure most.

Joey

Joey!!!! (((Joey)))

Kd5000 · « **Reply #61 on:** January 23, 2008, 05:16:59 pm »

Quote from: Phillip Dampier on January 23, 2008, 05:10:12 pm

I heard from Meryl earlier this afternoon, who placed a card for BetterMost, and a picture of our journey to the Kananaskis Lakes this past summer, as a token of thought in front of his apartment in SoHo on behalf of all of us, at the impromptu shrine.

Yes, that's great that Meryl was able to get down there. It sounds like a very touching tribute.

Ellemeno · « **Reply #62 on:** January 23, 2008, 05:20:04 pm »

Quote from: joey on January 23, 2008, 05:05:50 pm

In trying to understand what Heath Ledger's death and life can mean, I have reflected on his strengths as an actor: the ability to "put on his character like a coat" (to quote Michael Chekov) - and to do that with a magical ability to show us both the color and line of the coat and his own being under it.

Welcome Joey, any friend of Paul's is a friend of mine.

There is a video of a clip from an interview with Heath, done on the set of The Patriot, where he talks about literally putting on the clothes of the character giving him entrance into that character. In the interview, he mimes slipping on a jacket and straightening it on his body, and as he does, his bearing changes, his expression evolves, and even with the imitated gesture, he shows he becomes his part. I will try to find it.

Meryl · « **Reply #63 on:** January 23, 2008, 05:28:42 pm »

Quote from: Lucise on January 23, 2008, 02:57:31 pm

It is helping to write these little poems.
I posted it in my blog, but thought to bring it here too.

You Rise Still

you slipped away
unobserved
like a silent whisper.
your spirit rises
like soft strands of smoke
from a quenched candle.
you rise far
from this chaos and loss
you rise still.

there is more
beyond this earthly vale
distant shores
where footprints remain
forever etched in sand.
you are there
where shadows are not
where your sun gleams
you are there
you rise still.

you slipped away
in the light of day
I pray you felt no fear
close to the end
for you rise still.
bits of your soul breathe
in these bereft hearts
you are here
even as you rise far
from this restless haze
you rise still.

Rest In Peace.

Milli, this is so elegant and lovely, I wish you would also post it in the Cult thread. I encourage all of our members who want to post something meaningful about Heath's passing to do the same. Here is the link: http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,3655.msg69117.html#msg69117

Lumière · « **Reply #64 on:** January 23, 2008, 05:35:13 pm »

Quote from: Meryl on January 23, 2008, 05:28:42 pm

Milli, this is so elegant and lovely, I wish you would also post it in the Cult thread. I encourage all of our members who want to post something meaningful about Heath's passing to do the same. Here is the link: http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,3655.msg69117.html#msg69117

Thanks Meryl. Will do.

Delmardeb · « **Reply #65 on:** January 23, 2008, 06:55:04 pm »

Thanks Joey and Meryl; that was thoughtful of you. Thank you Lucise for the beautiful poem and pictures. I cannot believe how this tragedy has affected me and all of us here at Bettermost.

Heath- May you rest in peace.

iristarr · « **Reply #66 on:** January 23, 2008, 08:02:48 pm »

Rest in peace, Heath. You came into this old woman's life in the role of Ennis, and lived passionately in my heart for months and months. I can't begin to express how much you enriched my life. Words fail me, tears fall again. Iris

Shasta542 · « **Reply #67 on:** January 23, 2008, 08:12:32 pm »

Quote from: Lucise on January 23, 2008, 02:57:31 pm

It is helping to write these little poems.
I posted it in my blog, but thought to bring it here too.

You Rise Still

you slipped away
unobserved
like a silent whisper.
your spirit rises
like soft strands of smoke
from a quenched candle.
you rise far
from this chaos and loss
you rise still.

there is more
beyond this earthly vale
distant shores
where footprints remain
forever etched in sand.
you are there
where shadows are not
where your sun gleams
you are there
you rise still.

you slipped away
in the light of day
I pray you felt no fear
close to the end
for you rise still.
bits of your soul breathe
in these bereft hearts
you are here
even as you rise far
from this restless haze
you rise still.

Rest In Peace.

Beautiful images, Lucise -- a wonderful poem for Heath.

Ellemeno · « **Reply #68 on:** January 23, 2008, 08:20:24 pm »

Iris, so great to see you here.

joey · « **Reply #69 on:** January 23, 2008, 08:59:01 pm »

Quote from: Ellemeno on January 23, 2008, 05:20:04 pm

Welcome Joey, any friend of Paul's is a friend of mine.

There is a video of a clip from an interview with Heath, done on the set of The Patriot, where he talks about literally putting on the clothes of the character giving him entrance into that character. In the interview, he mimes slipping on a jacket and straightening it on his body, and as he does, his bearing changes, his expression evolves, and even with the imitated gesture, he shows he becomes his part. I will try to find it.

Thank you Clarissa -- I am new to all of this on the forum. But Paul is helping me! I would dearly love to see Heath's interview putting on the coat...it is a perfect image and whether or not he had read Michael Chekov's "To the Actor" he sure did do it right. If you find it, let me know.

PS I am the "Plant Dreaming Deep" lady.....

Ellemeno · « **Reply #70 on:** January 23, 2008, 09:01:58 pm »

Quote from: joey on January 23, 2008, 08:59:01 pm

PS I am the "Plant Dreaming Deep" lady.....

You are May Sarton?

southendmd · « **Reply #71 on:** January 23, 2008, 09:10:59 pm »

Quote from: Ellemeno on January 23, 2008, 09:01:58 pm

You are May Sarton?

(This is Joey replying to you:)

In my dreams, honey...but I love that book! Anyway, to complete the circle: it is really about authenticity. Right? About finding the way to be most true to yourself. That is the Heath legacy. That is what May Sarton struggled with. It is a struggle for all of us (lucky enough not to have to struggle first for bread on the table.) God bless.

bbm_stitchbuffyfan · « **Reply #72 on:** January 23, 2008, 09:30:29 pm »

I never imagined this would change my world the way it's doing...

The world seems a far better place with Heath Ledger in it.

BelAir · « **Reply #73 on:** January 23, 2008, 10:02:25 pm »

Quote from: Lucise on January 23, 2008, 02:57:31 pm

It is helping to write these little poems.
I posted it in my blog, but thought to bring it here too.

You Rise Still

you slipped away
unobserved
like a silent whisper.
your spirit rises
like soft strands of smoke
from a quenched candle.
you rise far
from this chaos and loss
you rise still.

there is more
beyond this earthly vale
distant shores
where footprints remain
forever etched in sand.
you are there
where shadows are not
where your sun gleams
you are there
you rise still.

you slipped away
in the light of day
I pray you felt no fear
close to the end
for you rise still.
bits of your soul breathe
in these bereft hearts
you are here
even as you rise far
from this restless haze
you rise still.

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thank you.

Lumière · « **Reply #74 on:** January 24, 2008, 01:17:09 am »

Quote from: Shasta542 on January 23, 2008, 08:12:32 pm

Beautiful images, Lucise -- a wonderful poem for Heath.

Quote from: BelAir on January 23, 2008, 10:02:25 pm

thank you.

Brokie hugs,
~M

nova20194 · « **Reply #75 on:** January 24, 2008, 08:27:25 am »

Dear friends,

I wish I could spend more time here this week, but my Dad passed away on Monday night, less than 24 hours before Heath. I'll mostly be away from BM until early next week. My thoughts are with everyone here at this very sad time.

Bob

BBM-Cat · « **Reply #76 on:** January 24, 2008, 09:15:27 am »

Bob,

Very sorry to hear about your father, what a terrible time for you. Please know you, and your father, are in our thoughts and prayers.

Love,
Chris.

belbbmfan · « **Reply #77 on:** January 24, 2008, 09:38:43 am »

Bob,

thinking of you. What a sad time indeed.

((Bob))

Fabienne

serious crayons · « **Reply #78 on:** January 24, 2008, 10:36:14 am »

So sorry to hear that, Bob. Take care, and we'll be here when you get back.

Phillip Dampier · « **Reply #79 on:** January 24, 2008, 10:50:53 am »

Quote from: nova20194 on January 24, 2008, 08:27:25 am

Dear friends,

I wish I could spend more time here this week, but my Dad passed away on Monday night, less than 24 hours before Heath. I'll mostly be away from BM until early next week. My thoughts are with everyone here at this very sad time.

I am very sorry to hear about this, Bob. John and I send our deepest condolences.

Penthesilea · « **Reply #80 on:** January 24, 2008, 10:57:06 am »

Quote from: nova20194 on January 24, 2008, 08:27:25 am

Dear friends,

I wish I could spend more time here this week, but my Dad passed away on Monday night, less than 24 hours before Heath. I'll mostly be away from BM until early next week. My thoughts are with everyone here at this very sad time.

Bob

I'm sorry to hear this. My condolences to you and your family.

Meryl · « **Reply #81 on:** January 24, 2008, 12:34:26 pm »

((((((((Bob))))))))

I'm so sorry to hear that this sad week is so much sadder for you. My sincere condolences.

Meryl

Kelda · « **Reply #82 on:** January 24, 2008, 02:28:19 pm »

Quote from: nova20194 on January 24, 2008, 08:27:25 am

Dear friends,

I wish I could spend more time here this week, but my Dad passed away on Monday night, less than 24 hours before Heath. I'll mostly be away from BM until early next week. My thoughts are with everyone here at this very sad time.

Bob

(((BOB))))

BBMGrandma · « **Reply #83 on:** January 24, 2008, 05:18:12 pm »

Dear fellow Brokies

I woke this morning with such a deep sense of loss and at first I didn't remember WHY!! And then Heath's face appeared in my mind...and I realized that he was gone!! Gone is that beautiful smile.....that easy gait...that shy demeanor....that impish grin.

And then I got up and dressed. Slowly...it seemed. As though I were still in a dreamlike
state. We've ALL heard about the deaths of many prominent people over the years. I was
17 when James Dean died...WAY before his time. I was devastated. I was young and had the typical crush that one has at that age. And then there was Elvis. Again....sadness and
grief. But Heath's death is close to debiliating...crushing...unreal...impacting like none I've experienced before. The ONLY death that was even close was when I lost my dear dad....and my best friend Everett two years ago. I had BARELY gotten 'over' losing them when suddenly....without warning...HEATH!!

Heath was the son I'd always wanted. I wrote here long ago that I wanted to pull a warm
blankie around Heath and Jake...to warm them...to keep them safe...to nurture them and help guide them along their way. I wanted to make hot chocolate for them and warm cookies. OH how I wish I could have put my arms around Heath....help soothe him...rock him to sleep....pull the blankies up around his shoulders and kiss his forehead with pure unadulterated LOVE!!

There's a hole in my heart today. It will heal...I'm SURE of that. But....it is soooo very painful.

Much love to all my fellow brokies who are mourning with me. Rayn....Iris....Lynne...and of course PHILIP....who has always been here for us to hold our hands and help ease the pain. THANK you Phillip....always! And the Brokies that I don't yet know!! Thank you all for your beautiful words in honor of our Heath.

Bob....I'm so so very sorry about the loss of your DAD.

Much love to all.....Nancy <an 'ole grandma>

Brown Eyes · « **Reply #84 on:** January 24, 2008, 05:19:57 pm »

{{Nancy}} Thank you for that post. It's so nice to see you at BetterMost again.

mvansand76 · « **Reply #85 on:** January 24, 2008, 05:39:18 pm »

You're so sweet, Nancy! I completely understand the blanket thing, there were several times in the past month that I saw pics of Heath and I just wanted to comfort him and hug him.

{{{{{{{ NANCY}}}}}}}}

Isaac31 · « **Reply #86 on:** January 24, 2008, 07:11:30 pm »

A horrible way to bring Brokeback Mountain back in to my life, but that's how I'm going to grieve. It has been a long time since I watched the movie, mostly because I had watched it so much that I no longer drew the same emotional response to it. I had overwatched and overthought it and all I could think about while watching is that it was only a movie and that I was silly for getting as in to it as I had.

I watched a couple scenes out of it today and cried harder then I ever had before. Heath's life lives on through the greatest performance any film has ever seen.

michaelflanagansf · « **Reply #87 on:** January 24, 2008, 08:31:39 pm »

To all of my wonderful friends at Bettermost on this tragic occasion - I just wanted to let you know that I'm thinking of you all. There is so little that can be said - and we have all lost so much.

I hold you all with love in my heart.

Michael

LauraGigs · « **Reply #88 on:** January 24, 2008, 08:34:17 pm »

Thank you for that Michael.

RouxB · « **Reply #89 on:** January 25, 2008, 12:23:47 am »

Bob-

Another beloved gone. My heart goes out to you.

roux

Ellemeno · « **Reply #90 on:** January 25, 2008, 02:37:57 am »

{{{Bob}}}

Bob, you gave me so much via Finding Brokeback. I am SO grateful today that I went and stood in the middle of that street in Alberta where Heath was filmed with the postcard. I am so grateful to you for easing our way on that trip.

mvansand76 · « **Reply #91 on:** January 25, 2008, 08:03:50 am »

Quote from: nova20194 on January 24, 2008, 08:27:25 am

Dear friends,

I wish I could spend more time here this week, but my Dad passed away on Monday night, less than 24 hours before Heath. I'll mostly be away from BM until early next week. My thoughts are with everyone here at this very sad time.

Bob

{{{{{{BOB}}}}}}}

HeathandMichelle · « **Reply #92 on:** January 25, 2008, 01:12:19 pm »

Thank you for setting up this site. I feel alone, my husband and friends think mourning a celebrity is silly. It's good to know that I'm not alone in my huge sadness.

souxi · « **Reply #93 on:** January 25, 2008, 01:21:56 pm »

Quote from: HeathandMichelle on January 25, 2008, 01:12:19 pm

Thank you for setting up this site. I feel alone, my husband and friends think mourning a celebrity is silly. It's good to know that I'm not alone in my huge sadness.

No you are not silly in the slightest. Welcome to Bettermost by the way.

Even though none of us, as far as I know, acutally knew Heath personally, we were all stunned, to say the least, by news of his death. He was such a young, handsome and incredibly talented young man, who still had so much to live for, and so much to give. You can pour your heart out here and express how you feel in any way you want, and I can assure you, no one will laugh at you. Your amongst friends here ok?
Souxi. xxx

MaineWriter · « **Reply #94 on:** January 25, 2008, 01:38:27 pm »

Quote from: HeathandMichelle on January 25, 2008, 01:12:19 pm

Thank you for setting up this site. I feel alone, my husband and friends think mourning a celebrity is silly. It's good to know that I'm not alone in my huge sadness.

Yes, welcome. You are with friends. Pour your heart out all you want.

Leslie
MaineWriter

adamblast · « **Reply #95 on:** January 25, 2008, 02:21:49 pm »

Greetings, new friends.

I'm a refugee from other BBM boards...

I lived on the Dave Cullen BBM boards throughout the "original" days, drifting away after the Oscars, the Ads in variety, the DVDs...

I needed some comfort when Heath died, so I went back, and it's great, but now it's blocked from work. Don't know why that one is blocked and this one isn't, but that's the random nature of "security" software these days.

I went to imdb and found it sadly full of kids eager to mock other's pain and prove they're "someone" in the most obnoxious manner.

So here I am.
______________________________

Yeah, it still hurts. Heath's Ennis meant the world to me. I'm one of those isolated, older gays who sees too much of Ennis in myself. It changed me, scared me, and made me take stock in ways only the people here might understand....

Anyway, thanks for the loving home. And thank you Heath, for what you taught me.

Meryl · « **Reply #96 on:** January 25, 2008, 02:25:43 pm »

Welcome, adamblast. I'm glad it worked out that you found your way here. We've got no mocking kids, just love and sorrow and comfort. Make yourself at home, Friend.

Front-Ranger · « **Reply #97 on:** January 25, 2008, 02:29:47 pm »

Welcome! Come in, stay a while! You'll have a cuppa coffee, won't you? Piece a cherry cake?

adamblast · « **Reply #98 on:** January 25, 2008, 02:36:37 pm »

Quote from: Front-Ranger on January 25, 2008, 02:29:47 pm

Piece a cherry cake?

Thanks. I'm afraid I'd just be pushing it around my plate today, a bit like that piece o' pie...

Thanks for the warm welcome.

Brown Eyes · « **Reply #99 on:** January 25, 2008, 03:02:11 pm »

Welcome adamblast.

MaineWriter · « **Reply #100 on:** January 25, 2008, 03:12:34 pm »

Quote from: adamblast on January 25, 2008, 02:21:49 pm

Yeah, it still hurts. Heath's Ennis meant the world to me. I'm one of those isolated, older gays who sees too much of Ennis in myself. It changed me, scared me, and made me take stock in ways only the people here might understand....

Anyway, thanks for the loving home. And thank you Heath, for what you taught me.

Welcome, Adam. Glad to have you here. You are among friends.

Leslie
MaineWriter

belbbmfan · « **Reply #101 on:** January 25, 2008, 03:20:41 pm »

Quote from: adamblast on January 25, 2008, 02:21:49 pm

And thank you Heath, for what you taught me.

It's the thought I'm hanging on to. The only one that will take away the sadness.

Welcome Adam.

Penthesilea · « **Reply #102 on:** January 25, 2008, 05:35:59 pm »

Welcome Adam and HeathandMichelle. You have found the right place.

youngdoe · « **Reply #103 on:** January 25, 2008, 09:48:39 pm »

Hello everyone, thank you for being here at such a sad, painful time. I am Youngdoe, a refugee from other boards where I have mostly been a lurker. Now, I feel that I must post and express my grief. I feel that a have lost a friend. Even though I never met Heath, I feel that I know him from his films. I guess I am not the only one who feels that way. He touched me so deeply with his performance as Ennis, I will never forget it. Part of me still doesn't want to believe he is dead. How can such a beautiful, talented young man be gone? I feel so bad for his family, Michelle and Matilda. For me, he will live on through his work. I hope his loved ones know that he made an enormous impact throughout the world with his honest and humane portrayal of Ennis. They got to know and love him in real life, we know him from his revelatory performances. Thank you again for having this site available.

serious crayons · « **Reply #104 on:** January 25, 2008, 10:07:46 pm »

Welcome, youngdoe. Please feel free to express everything you've wanted to express. You're among friends and people who understand.

And a belated welcome to you, adamblast and HeathandMichelle. I'm so glad new people are finding their way here during such a difficult time.

youngdoe · « **Reply #105 on:** January 25, 2008, 10:45:54 pm »

Thank you Ineedcrayons for your warm welcome. I will check out the threads here. It is important to see that many others feel as I do. I just hope that Heath knew how much his fans loved him. There is so much love and regard expressed here. Thanks.

Brown Eyes · « **Reply #106 on:** January 25, 2008, 11:13:44 pm »

Welcome youngdoe and all the new friends who are stopping by this thread. It really is such a comfort, at this sad time, to be here among other Brokies and to continue to meet new friends here.

doodler · « **Reply #107 on:** January 26, 2008, 01:02:20 am »

Ijust found this article and thought some other people might enjoy it. It is almost 2 years old but has some wonderful observations pf Heath.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/film/tale-of-an-untrained-homeboy/2008/01/23/1201024944702.html

Meryl · « **Reply #108 on:** January 26, 2008, 01:06:21 am »

Thanks, doodler. Welcome to BetterMost.

BelAir · « **Reply #109 on:** January 26, 2008, 01:17:21 am »

thanks for that link.

lovely article.

doodler · « **Reply #110 on:** January 26, 2008, 02:12:41 am »

Thank you. This is such a personal loss for so many of us it helps to be among folks who understand. For the last few months I have been feeling like I was ready to move on and then this.

Ellemeno · « **Reply #111 on:** January 26, 2008, 04:42:58 am »

Quote from: doodler on January 26, 2008, 01:02:20 am

Ijust found this article and thought some other people might enjoy it. It is almost 2 years old but has some wonderful observations pf Heath.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/film/tale-of-an-untrained-homeboy/2008/01/23/1201024944702.html

Wonderful article. One of my favorites, thanks, and welcome, doodler!

forsythia12 · « **Reply #112 on:** January 26, 2008, 04:54:28 am »

good to be here again. it's been a couple years, and i find myself back here, but with a sad heart.

BBMGrandma · « **Reply #113 on:** January 26, 2008, 05:04:17 am »

Oh Doodler....that is SUCH a beautiful article about our Heath and his family. Thank you so much It really gives such insight into what a truly caring man he was. Alas....always fidgety...but that was just our Heath.....his internal makeup!! It was what made him so endearing to us all....I think. He had messages to send to us all....and he did it so well.

Thank you Heath...for all that you've given us!!

A very grateful Grandma

Kelda · « **Reply #114 on:** January 26, 2008, 07:23:45 am »

welcome all

Kelda · « **Reply #115 on:** January 26, 2008, 07:35:52 am »

Quote from: doodler on January 26, 2008, 01:02:20 am

Ijust found this article and thought some other people might enjoy it. It is almost 2 years old but has some wonderful observations pf Heath.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/film/tale-of-an-untrained-homeboy/2008/01/23/1201024944702.html

That was a gorgeous article - Thank you.

MaineWriter · « **Reply #116 on:** January 26, 2008, 09:06:34 am »

Hello doodler, youngdoe, and forsythia12...glad to have you here. This is just one big happy family...well, maybe we're a little sad right now, but we are a family!

Leslie
MaineWriter

pgcatz · « **Reply #117 on:** January 26, 2008, 10:43:12 am »

This has been so painful for me. I feel like I've lost a personal friend. I am going to miss him so much. God Bless You Heath, and may you rest in peace.

Anya_Angie · « **Reply #118 on:** January 26, 2008, 01:21:42 pm »

Thanks very much for the re-welcome, Phillip. You were always so good to me, as were most everyone here. I had intended to drop by the past few weeks, but was just so busy. Now I am here, and I REALLY wish it were under more joyous circumstances. I just... I'm stunned by his passing, but I'm comforted in a way knowing that Heath changed so many people's lives for the better because of this movie and this role, and in general as well. My friend Lanie said she does not believe that a simple actor can never change people's lives. I immediately replied that I knew far too many people who say otherwise to agree with that statement. Her life wasn't affected by Heath or this film because she has never seen it, and has no wish to see it. Well, she's missing out on something truly enlightening. Never in my lifetime have I seen so many people's lives affected by a film, and I highly doubt I will ever see this again. I've treasured Brokeback Mountain from the moment I heard about its story, and then its music (I heard the score before I saw the movie

). No one can take away the profound impact it had on my life, and I know there are others who share that impact, many of whom I'm happy to call my friends.

Ellemeno · « **Reply #119 on:** January 26, 2008, 02:02:36 pm »

Welcome back Angie!

I remember that you are a film score aficionado, thanks for reminding us we can listen to that.

serious crayons · « **Reply #120 on:** January 26, 2008, 02:18:56 pm »

Quote from: doodler on January 26, 2008, 01:02:20 am

Ijust found this article and thought some other people might enjoy it. It is almost 2 years old but has some wonderful observations pf Heath.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/film/tale-of-an-untrained-homeboy/2008/01/23/1201024944702.html

Doodler, thank you so much for posting that. I almost didn't read it -- I feel like I've read so many articles about Heath that there's nothing new under the sun -- but after seeing all the comments about it I did, and it may have been the best Heath profile I've ever read. Far better than, say, the Rolling Stone piece because it went so much deeper beneath the surface. That writer did a wonderful job of gaining his trust and getting him to open up. Heck, it's one of the best celebrity profiles I've read, period.

Kelda · « **Reply #121 on:** January 26, 2008, 02:46:14 pm »

Quote from: ineedcrayons on January 26, 2008, 02:18:56 pm

Doodler, thank you so much for posting that. I almost didn't read it -- I feel like I've read so many articles about Heath that there's nothing new under the sun -- but after seeing all the comments about it I did, and it may have been the best Heath profile I've ever read. Far better than, say, the Rolling Stone piece because it went so much deeper beneath the surface. That writer did a wonderful job of gaining his trust and getting him to open up. Heck, it's one of the best celebrity profiles I've read, period.

Rolling Stone - can you link me?

MaineWriter · « **Reply #122 on:** January 26, 2008, 02:52:34 pm »

Quote from: Kelda on January 26, 2008, 02:46:14 pm

Rolling Stone - can you link me?

I don't think it's online. It was an interview in the March 23, 2006 issue. You can try to search on that date to see if it is available.

L

serious crayons · « **Reply #123 on:** January 26, 2008, 02:58:56 pm »

Who's the news sleuth now?

Here it is.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/profile/story/9448111/heath_ledger_lonesome_cowboy

Anya_Angie · « **Reply #124 on:** January 26, 2008, 03:01:16 pm »

Yes I am Elle! Glad to see I'm remembered despite my very long absence!

MaineWriter · « **Reply #125 on:** January 26, 2008, 03:01:48 pm »

Quote from: ineedcrayons on January 26, 2008, 02:58:56 pm

Who's the news sleuth now? Here it is.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/profile/story/9448111/heath_ledger_lonesome_cowboy

Hahahaha, I'll have to hand over my badge!

It is the entire thing? I have some vague memory of it being truncated when it was first posted, which is why I went and bought Rolling Stone.

EDIT: It is the whole thing. Excellent. They probably knew people would be searching for it. I see Peter Travers wrote a commentary on Heath's death.

Kelda · « **Reply #126 on:** January 26, 2008, 03:30:31 pm »

Thanks Katherine!

Penthesilea · « **Reply #127 on:** January 26, 2008, 03:32:29 pm »

Quote from: ineedcrayons on January 26, 2008, 02:18:56 pm

Doodler, thank you so much for posting that. I almost didn't read it -- I feel like I've read so many articles about Heath that there's nothing new under the sun -- but after seeing all the comments about it I did, and it may have been the best Heath profile I've ever read. Far better than, say, the Rolling Stone piece because it went so much deeper beneath the surface. That writer did a wonderful job of gaining his trust and getting him to open up. Heck, it's one of the best celebrity profiles I've read, period.

I second the thank you to Doodler.

This has always been my favorite article about Heath.

jstephens9 · « **Reply #128 on:** January 26, 2008, 03:35:12 pm »

Quote from: MaineWriter on January 26, 2008, 02:52:34 pm

I don't think it's online. It was an interview in the March 23, 2006 issue. You can try to search on that date to see if it is available.

L

I have that issue and it is a wonderful article about Heath. I learned a lot about him from it. I remember reading that not all that long after the first time I saw BBM.

ptannen · « **Reply #129 on:** January 27, 2008, 04:20:43 am »

Quote from: Phillip Dampier on January 23, 2008, 05:10:12 pm

I heard from Meryl earlier this afternoon, who placed a card for BetterMost, and a picture of our journey to the Kananaskis Lakes this past summer, as a token of thought in front of his apartment in SoHo on behalf of all of us, at the impromptu shrine.

It's good to see so many familiar faces making their way back to our community over this tragic event. We are part of a big family here, and I hope that you will stick around and remain with us in the days and weeks ahead. We can get through this. Together, we can get through anything.

Meryl - thanks so much for that wonderful jesture. Thank you, too, Philip, for posting about it.

ptannen · « **Reply #130 on:** January 27, 2008, 04:54:52 am »

Welcome Youngdoe, adamblast, doodler, forsythia12, and HeathandMichelle! We here at BetterMost are family and it is so good to see our wonderfuly family expand and old friends returning at this time of mutual need. Although it is such a sad time, it has given a whole new dimension to being a part of BetterMost.

Pete

ptannen · « **Reply #131 on:** January 27, 2008, 04:55:34 am »

Doodler -

what a wonderful article!

thank you so much!

ptannen · « **Reply #132 on:** January 27, 2008, 06:07:23 am »

Quote from: nova20194 on January 24, 2008, 08:27:25 am

Dear friends,

I wish I could spend more time here this week, but my Dad passed away on Monday night, less than 24 hours before Heath. I'll mostly be away from BM until early next week. My thoughts are with everyone here at this very sad time.

Bob

Bob -

My sincere condolences on your Dad's passing.

Thank you again for helping us all with Finding Broakback.

Pete

AngelaNicole · « **Reply #133 on:** January 29, 2008, 08:15:18 am »

Hi guys, I am new here. Found about this board through imdb. I am extremely sad about Heath, I am still heart broken over his death. He was a beautiful beautiful person, inside and outside, and I cant believe we will never seen him in a movie again after the dark knight. I dont want to blame anyone or anything for his death, and I hope he died of natural causes and did not suffer! He is an angel in heaven now and I feel at peace because I saw him in my dream watching me sleep a couple of nights ago. He has been on my mind non stop and I miss him so much! His memory will carry on. RIP heath. We love you! xoxo

mvansand76 · « **Reply #134 on:** January 29, 2008, 08:20:15 am »

Quote from: AngelaNicole on January 29, 2008, 08:15:18 am

Hi guys, I am new here. Found about this board through imdb. I am extremely sad about Heath, I am still heart broken over his death. He was a beautiful beautiful person, inside and outside, and I cant believe we will never seen him in a movie again after the dark knight. I dont want to blame anyone or anything for his death, and I hope he died of natural causes and did not suffer! He is an angel in heaven now and I feel at peace because I saw him in my dream watching me sleep a couple of nights ago. He has been on my mind non stop and I miss him so much! His memory will carry on. RIP heath. We love you! xoxo

Welcome AngelaNicole, hope you find a safe haven here to deal with your grief. We're all going through the same thing here... *hug* Mel

TOoP/Bruce · « **Reply #135 on:** January 29, 2008, 08:32:59 am »

Quote from: AngelaNicole on January 29, 2008, 08:15:18 am

Hi guys, I am new here. Found about this board through imdb. I am extremely sad about Heath, I am still heart broken over his death. He was a beautiful beautiful person, inside and outside, and I cant believe we will never seen him in a movie again after the dark knight. I dont want to blame anyone or anything for his death, and I hope he died of natural causes and did not suffer! He is an angel in heaven now and I feel at peace because I saw him in my dream watching me sleep a couple of nights ago. He has been on my mind non stop and I miss him so much! His memory will carry on. RIP heath. We love you! xoxo

Welcome AngelaNicole. Many of us here share with you in a sense of loss. I am glad you found your way here!

MaineWriter · « **Reply #136 on:** January 29, 2008, 09:20:58 am »

Welcome AngelaNicole. Glad to have you here.

Leslie

Kelda · « **Reply #137 on:** January 29, 2008, 04:47:21 pm »

Welcome AngleaNicole

youngdoe · « **Reply #138 on:** January 29, 2008, 06:07:56 pm »

Thank you atz75 and ptannen for you warm welcomes. I am still in schock and still hurting as we all are. I felt a ray of hope, however, when I heard Daniel Day-Lewis's tribute to Heath at the SAG awards. I saw it on a replay on one of the news shows. I have always regarded DDL as the finest of actors. The fact that he so appreciated Heath's work in BBM and expressed this, made me think that maybe people who had not viewed BBM might now view it because of Daniel's statement. I really don't know if this is the case, but who can say?
Maybe something positive could come from this terrible trajedy, if more people can share the experience of BBM---Youngdoe

TOoP/Bruce · « **Reply #139 on:** January 29, 2008, 06:22:45 pm »

Quote from: youngdoe on January 29, 2008, 06:07:56 pm

Thank you atz75 and ptannen for you warm welcomes. I am still in schock and still hurting as we all are. I felt a ray of hope, however, when I heard Daniel Day-Lewis's tribute to Heath at the SAG awards. I saw it on a replay on one of the news shows. I have always regarded DDL as the finest of actors. The fact that he so appreciated Heath's work in BBM and expressed this, made me think that maybe people who had not viewed BBM might now view it because of Daniel's statement. I really don't know if this is the case, but who can say?
Maybe something positive could come from this terrible trajedy, if more people can share the experience of BBM---Youngdoe

A very warm welcome to our community at Bettermost, Youngdoe. I share you feelings of shock and hurt over Heath's passing. Very sad...

As to people rediscovering this movie, I looked at Amazon.us and found that Heath now has 5 movies in the top 50 this week. "10 Things I Hate about You", "A Knight's Tale", "The Brothers Grimm", "Brokeback Mountain", and "Candy". It looks like people will be going back and discovering many of this wonderful young actor's various performances.

On IMDb, I am also seeing a resurgence of the usual questions from first time BbM viewers...

AngelaNicole · « **Reply #140 on:** January 29, 2008, 11:48:06 pm »

Thanks guys for the warm welcome! I am still thinking about Heath nonstop, and it makes me feel good to have a place to post, where everyone is grieving. I am not liking all the news I am hearing on the news about Heaths drug addiction, and only hope it is not true, and just speculation. I miss him so much, but I am honoring him by watching his movies. We love you Heath Ledger

AngelaNicole · « **Reply #141 on:** January 29, 2008, 11:52:18 pm »

This message is for Bob. Im so sorry to hear about your father passing away!

My thoughts are with you and your family. God bless.

youngdoe · « **Reply #142 on:** January 30, 2008, 12:14:11 am »

TOoP. Thanks for your reply. I did go back to Imdb and I read a whole thread full of posts where people who had just seen the movie for the first time expressed their thoughts and feelings. --Youngdoe.

ptannen · « **Reply #143 on:** January 31, 2008, 01:32:03 am »

Welcome to the Bettermost family AngelaNicole and Youngdoe.

Pete

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