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what do you stand for?
« on: March 08, 2008, 11:10:18 pm »
i was thinking about all the things people make a stand for, and i wanted to know what folks here at bettermost stood for.  (i.e. M.A.D.D., animal rights, minority equality, anti war, etc....)
have you protested anything?
what charities mean a lot to you, or what ones do you support financially?
what social injustices make you angry?
if you could change the world, what would you put a stop to?

where i live, there's a lot of strife between loggers and treehuggers (sorry for the slang).

drinking & driving, and bullying are two of many things i really get upset about, and wish i could put a stop to.


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Re: what do you stand for?
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2008, 11:50:33 pm »
I stand for humanity!

Freedom!

Justice for all too!

And much more, like we all do!!
And LOVE!!

Hugs! (And for hugs too!!)

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Re: what do you stand for?
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2008, 12:41:01 am »
No, I have rarely protested anything, altho I have been teargassed a time or two. But once I was asked about what one word I would like to have incised on my gravestone and I said "Communicator" (which is what I do in my job and it's a big part of my personal life too, especially with my two children)
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Re: what do you stand for?
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2008, 02:04:31 am »
Great thread forsythia! :)

This is a big question for sure!

The main social injustice issue that I feel the most passionately about (and most consistently throughout my life) is anything to do with women's rights.  Issues surrounding injustices and violence against women (both in the U.S. and internationally) literally can keep me awake at night.

Other things that I feel passionately about are GLBT rights, the environment and peace/anti-war issues. 

In the past I have gone to anti-war demonstrations.  Actually, when I was in high school a really large group of students staged an old-fashioned "walk out" to protest the first Gulf War, and I participated in that (it was probably the first demonstration I was involved in).  I've also participated in demonstrations having to do with the environment (again in high school I was really active in our environmental club... and I recall some minor/local protests that we were involved with).  And, I've actually participated in two pride parades during grad school when I lived in Philly.  And, I've been to one or two other rallies having to do with gay rights in college and grad school.

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Re: what do you stand for?
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2008, 02:38:45 am »
No, I have rarely protested anything, altho I have been teargassed a time or two. But once I was asked about what one word I would like to have incised on my gravestone and I said "Communicator" (which is what I do in my job and it's a big part of my personal life too, especially with my two children)


teargassed for what front ranger??????????????????
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Re: what do you stand for?
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2008, 02:42:04 am »
Great thread forsythia! :)

This is a big question for sure!

The main social injustice issue that I feel the most passionately about (and most consistently throughout my life) is anything to do with women's rights.  Issues surrounding injustices and violence against women (both in the U.S. and internationally) literally can keep me awake at night.

Other things that I feel passionately about are GLBT rights, the environment and peace/anti-war issues. 

In the past I have gone to anti-war demonstrations.  Actually, when I was in high school a really large group of students staged an old-fashioned "walk out" to protest the first Gulf War, and I participated in that (it was probably the first demonstration I was involved in).  I've also participated in demonstrations having to do with the environment (again in high school I was really active in our environmental club... and I recall some minor/local protests that we were involved with).  And, I've actually participated in two pride parades during grad school when I lived in Philly.  And, I've been to one or two other rallies having to do with gay rights in college and grad school.



wow.  you have a lot of passion for things.  that's great.
keep posting here with your thoughts on issues, as i'd like to hear more.

is the enviornment something most people where you live feel passionatley for?  like i said earlier, it's very mixed here.  i think everyone cares, but there's a lot of jobs, such as logging that we see here, and spats about watershed damage due to the loggers practices.
thanks amanda!

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Re: what do you stand for?
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2008, 07:09:58 am »
Other things that I feel passionately about are GLBT rights, the environment and peace/anti-war issues. 

Took the words right out of my mouth. lol In the past I've attended London's annual Pride march, and in my college days I was fairly active in the student union's GLBT society and generally got myself into loads of trouble attending local protests and leafleting etc. lol! In those days I was young and naive and thought that we could change the world if we shouted loud enough.

I do feel very strongly about environmental issues though, along with peace/anti-war issues, though I don't really get involved much apart from signing online petitions and stuff.

These days financially I suppose a couple of deaf charities, a subject close to me as I've lost some hearing due to my medical problems. For the past few years I've been active in local deaf charities, being treasurer for one and getting involved with running education and training courses for deaf people, and deaf awareness with the general public. I have lots of deaf friends through the work I've been involved with, so I've seen many of the issues deaf people face first hand. I'm lucky that though I now use hearing aids, my hearing loss is relatively mild and I still have a fair amount of "natural hearing" left. I'm still fairly active in local disability rights organisations generally, and it's mainly in the disability rights/disability support networks that I'm active these days.

I also financially support the international research charity, based in the US, that works with the rare neurological problem that's caused most of my difficulties. It's the only international organisation working to support research into the condition, so it's work is vital. I'm also working at the moment to set up a UK charity for the condition with members from my support forum, to raise awareness of the condition, and to further support the international organisation's work. 


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Re: what do you stand for?
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2008, 11:07:02 am »
teargassed for what front ranger??????????????????
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thanks for the reply
It was just a common occurence during those times at the place I went to university. One time I was in my apartment just down the street from the student union and police released teargas right on the street, so I was driven out of my home!! Ran down the hill to some friends' house and chilled there. Another time, I was in the computer center, waiting for my boyfriend to get off work. The computer center was teargassed and we all had to leave. Apparently the police thot it was a subversive place in those times!! This was the same summer as Kent, Ohio.
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Re: what do you stand for?
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2008, 11:12:16 am »
This was the same summer as Kent, Ohio.

Sorry to sound dumb, but what's Kent, Ohio? (I'm a UK'er  ;))


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Re: what do you stand for?
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2008, 11:21:29 am »
Sorry to sound dumb, but what's Kent, Ohio? (I'm a UK'er  ;))

Thanks for asking! Kent State University was where four college students were killed by police during the Vietnam War riots. It was a pivotal experience of my young adulthood. Read more about it here:

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,1157.msg63032.html#msg63032

and our friend johngallagher also posted some good info about it here:

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,3351.msg63773.html#msg63773

I'm surprised we haven't had a similar situation with the Iraq War! But I guess students are lulled into serenity by their ipods or whatever today. Plus they have no rabble-rousing musicians like Crosby Stills Nash and Young!
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Re: what do you stand for?
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2008, 11:27:08 am »
Ah! Something's vaguelly coming back to me now. Thanks for the links - I'll check those out.


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Re: what do you stand for?
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2008, 01:53:02 pm »

is the enviornment something most people where you live feel passionatley for?  like i said earlier, it's very mixed here.  i think everyone cares, but there's a lot of jobs, such as logging that we see here, and spats about watershed damage due to the loggers practices.
thanks amanda!

Well, when I was most "active" in terms of being interested in the environment, I was living in Connecticut and I think there was a lot of support for environmental issues there.  As I mentioned, when I was in high school I was active in my school's environmental club (I was the club secretary) and I was a member of groups like Greenpeace.  Once I went to college, my activist urges about environmental causes sort of dropped off.  Two of my past girlfriends (one from college years and one actually from Pittsburgh) have been pretty active (even in terms of activism) with environmental and animal rights.  So, that kind of world has been on my radar screen for a long time.

Now I live in Pittsburgh, and there's a lot of interest in the environment in terms of cleaning up "brown fields", meaning the old, now unused steel mill sites and also in terms of cleaning up residual air pollution issues.  Pittsburgh was such a terribly polluted city at one time, people are very conscious of how bad things can get if the environment isn't cared for.  I mean, there was a huge campaign in the city in the 1980s to clean all the black soot off of old buildings.  Some buildings were never cleaned, and they really are pitch black with grime and soot all from air pollution.  The city has done a great job (in general) cleaning up, so that a lot of the old issues like that are no longer so visible or apparent and most of the heavy industry and steel mills are gone (there are still a handful of steel mills, but the ones that remain are pretty far outside of town).

And, in terms of my family, the environment has always been a big issue.  One of my cousins is an environmental lawyer in Wisconsin and my other cousin (the lawyer's older brother, actually) is the director of a watershed restoration project in northern California.  My cousin in California is by far the most "hardcore" environmentalist that I know.  He and his wife have been involved in environmental causes for years and years. 

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Re: what do you stand for?
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2008, 02:03:11 pm »
thanks to everyone.
keep writing your thoughts, and feel free to discuss any of these issues further.

the only charity right now that i support is WORL VISION.  we've had a 'foster' child for 6yrs now, and we really enjoy seeing what our contribution has done for him and his family.  he's in chad, affrica.
i held a street-wide garage sale to help with the hurricane katrina victims.  we raised quite a bit of money for the red cross.
the other organization i really feel passionate about is 'children's hospice'.  we donate to the 'canuck place' which is named after vancouver's hockey team.  i just feel so awfull that children and hospice are in the same sentence.  it's just not fair.  it breaks my heart to think of those poor kids with fatal illnesses and their parents.  i'm tearing up right now.

another one we contributed to one christmas is 'doctor's without borders' which i think is an amazing organization.

i guess that's it.
thanks again everyone!!!! :)

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Re: what do you stand for?
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2008, 03:57:30 pm »
i just feel so awfull that children and hospice are in the same sentence.

Same here. My mum does a lot of work with the local hospital raising funds for the hospital's breast care service (she was diagnosed with breast cancer nearly 7 years ago now). She and a friend run a second-hand bookstall weekly at the hospital and over the past five years have raised just over £35,000 between them through that and other fundraising activities. I help them out when I can and I designed and maintain their website.

Our local hospice has been the focus of a lot of personal tragedy over the last couple of years or so. We've lost a couple of good friends to cancer there, and last year also my grandma to cancer also - she also died at the hospice. About three years ago there was a huge local campaign to set up a dedicated children's hospice, which is finally becoming a reality - it opens this spring - with loads of local publicity on local radio, in local newspapers etc.

My mum writes poetry, and she's written poetry anthologies for both of the hospices to raise funds - five over the past few years if I remember rightly. She does the poetry and I do the editing/proofing and layout for her and make the printing arrangements with a local printer. She sells them locally and managed to persuade a couple of local bookshops to stock them. I'm just finishing off laying out her latest one, and then for the next project she wants to do a compilation of all the ones she's done so far and I'm going to set that one up for her and publish it through Lulu.com.

The medical world plays a large part in my life with the medical problems I have, and I usually end up in hospital a couple of times a year at our nearest local neurosurgery centre (over in the next city). They have a charity dedicated to raising funds for the neurosurgery intensive care, and having seen first-hand the amazing work they do, the terrible operations that some people endure, and the highly specialised equipment they need (I'm fortunate that I've never yet ended up in the intensive care unit, but I've been in the high dependency unit next door on more than one occasion), I can't praise them highly enough. Their Neurocare charity sells cards, Christmas decorations and toys, teddies and stuffed animals mainly, and every time I'm in there I make a point harassing the nurses until they let me off the ward to go and buy something from their stall - it costs me a small fortune every time I get taken in, and the sofa in my office in the spare room is over-flowing with teddies, which I name after the doctors and nurses, but they're worth every penny.


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Re: what do you stand for?
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2008, 05:11:46 pm »
Where I give (money, primarily):  The Nature Conservancy, the National Geographic Foundation, the ACLU, NARAL Pro-Choice America, the American Cancer Society, the ASPCA.

What I stand for:  Equal rights for *all*, choice, environmental conservation (including phasing out and ending our dependence on oil -foreign and local) universal health care, gun control (actually, banning them altogether would suit me just fine), the separation of church and state (what a concept), and the recognition by all in this country that freedom of religion also means freedom from religion - so ixnay the ishfay.
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Re: what do you stand for?
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2008, 05:31:34 pm »
I'm surprised we haven't had a similar situation with the Iraq War! But I guess students are lulled into serenity by their ipods or whatever today. Plus they have no rabble-rousing musicians like Crosby Stills Nash and Young!

I think a big reason we don't have a similar situation with the Iraq War is that, without a draft, young people don't feel the same personal risk. Vietnam-era protesters weren't working for peace purely for altruistic reasons, but also to save their own lives and those of their friends and relatives, many of whom were over there against their own wishes. Now, of course people are concerned about the lives of U.S. troops, but the fact that they volunteered for the armed forces makes the dynamic different.

We do have a few rabble-rousing musicians. I'm thinking of Green Day particularly, as well as, let's see, Bruce Springsteen and Neil Young and Eminem. It's not like the '60s, though, when so many musicians were making anti-war songs.




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Re: what do you stand for?
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2008, 07:26:25 pm »
May Our Soldiers be safe... always!!

They create our freedom!!

And may they all come back safe too!

Hugs!! May we all help too our soldiers who are back and need our help too, in many ways!!