Author Topic: Would Brokeback Mountain movie been better or worst with no females, no wives ??  (Read 7200 times)

Offline Artiste

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So women are needed you say Katie and Front-Ranger for Annie's story and the Brokeback Mountain movie ? !! OK!!

But consider if otherwise, please.

Remember movies with no women?


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Cant say I remember any movies without both female and male characters. (Not unless it was X rated)

And we are not talking about any other movie, we are talking about Brokeback Mountain, where both men and women played an integal part of the story line.
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There have been some I think...I recall the movie Three Kings about the Gulf War...I don't think there were any women in that one. In the movie Apocalypse Now there were only one or two scenes with women. There was probably a Western or two that had no women. And there have been many many movies where women were rather inconsequential to the story. Such as Butch and Sundance, where Katherine Ross served very little purpose.

Also there was a movie called If set in a boy's school in Britain and there may have been a female teacher or two but I don't recall any. The Dead Poet's Society...I don't remember any women in that one. October Sky, History Boys, The Good the Bad and the Ugly, Maurice...gee there are more than I thought at first (yes, there's a female teacher in October Sky, but she is a minor player).

One thing that bothers me is when the only female in the story is the villain. And have you noticed how often it is a mother? That burns me up! In Shelter, there is an uncaring unnurturing mother or sister who leaves all the nurturing role to the lead character.
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Merci Front-Ranger !

I can see your point when you say:
              One thing that bothers me is when the only female in the story is the villain. And have you noticed how often it is a mother? That burns me up! In Shelter, there is an uncaring unnurturing mother or sister who leaves all the nurturing role to the lead character.
 
 
           

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Front-Ranger, and I accept that female not be such vilains!
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Can you also think that movie with only males, such Brokeback Mountain, could maybe help to combat anti-gay ideas ?


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hugs! I do ask that question to you and to others, since I know that women like being together, and men like being together !! (At least, at times! And I am not talking about islamic or other males ONLY all the time times!!)

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I do ask that question to you and to others, since I know that women like being together, and men like being together !! (At least, at times! And I am not talking about islamic or other males ONLY all the time times!!)

I don't think that's true friend Artiste. There are many who like a mixed company.
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     Without the women, the story would not have shown the true nature of the hiding that gay men had to go to in order to have a safe life.  What
you are proposing with only men, is just a story about two guys who have a lot of sex and time together.  That is not what the story is about.
It would be a totally different story, about a totally different time, and era.  It was meant to show the pain they were forced into.  The pain it
caused to the wives and children and other members of their family.  It was affecting everyone they came into contact with.  The parents and all.



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Merci ifyoucantfixit !

Your post says many things. I was firstly pleased as well as perplexed by your first sentence, then shocked by its second, and as I saw your detals in the rest, I must say: but it's that a female(s)/woman/women point of view ?

Ever thought of putting yourself in a males/men point of view ?  I do confirm that you tried in a way by stating that Ennis and Jack did hide via female/wives they had, but of course was that not only in the movie?

Didn't Annie show two men and that was not just sex, right ?

May I ask ?

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       The thing I was saying is that the story is about how society and the prejudices it produces, cause
pain to not only the gay men, but everyone they come into contact with.  That is what the story
tells.



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Merci ifyoucantfixit !

You tell more and well, by your post !

But it is still a woman's point of view, and can you think how a gay man would feel and/or see it?

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But it is still a woman's point of view, and can you think how a gay man would feel and/or see it?


Artiste, Here in my humble opnion, of a gay male, Brokeback is what it is and I don't question the
female parts or if it would be better without women. As the women here on Bettermost have stated,
it normal to have women around. Women, straight and lesbian, I have even seen in male gay bars.
Life is as it flows its natural courses.

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