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Re: Lesbian and/or Feminist Literature and Writing
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2008, 08:03:34 pm »

Btw, Amanda...

Now that you are done with Beyond the Pale, what is next on your list?

One of the books I am reading at the moment is an anthology called No Margins: Canadian fiction in lesbian edited by Catherine Lake.
I love anthologies on a variety of subjects, lesbian fiction/non-fiction being one of them.
Lately, I can't seem to stop buying lesbian anthologies, lol ... so I have added quite a few to my library.  I will do up a list of them one of these days.  :)


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Re: Lesbian and/or Feminist Literature and Writing
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2008, 12:29:57 am »
Hi Milli!

OK! So here I am, ready to catch up a bit with this cool thread.  Thank you so much for posting all of that information about the Triangle tragedy.  It's such a sad event, it's hard to even imagine or comprehend the horror and injustice of that situation.  And, I think it was handled beautifully in Beyond the Pale.  Some of that writing was so chilling.  The parts of the chapter "Melt the World" that were in either Rose's voice or the ghostly voices of the other victims were just haunting. 

In my copy, starting at p. 368 the formatting of the text becomes unconventional and Dykewomon writes these little short sentences and phrases, such as  [these are just some of the fragments... It's kind of hard to quote because the formatting is so unusual] "Flame spikes up through the floorboards.  Everyone is running... let me out of here... I have to get down stairs... don't you understand... let me through... how can this happen to me?... I was good... I was about to meet my lover... I was pregnant... I was bringing my paycheck to Mama..." And then the part that specifically from Rose's perspective "Chava I worked sewing since I was fourteen... seven years in sweatshops... and still I had pride in my needle... Chava I went to the window but I saw what happened to the girls... who jumped... I tried to get back to the doors... the black stripes on my shirt... burn first."

I love this part.  It's so unbelievably powerful to give voices to these victims.  And, I really like how the text breaks down almost into poetry.  :'(

It is interesting to see how this book, or at least Chava's story, is bracketed by two events of horrendous violence and injustice.  It's hard to imagine one individual enduring so much tragedy, so young and within such a short span of years.  Poor Chava. 

But, yes, I agree with you that I think she's meant to go on and do great things in Ohio and in the suffrage movement.  She gets so excited by social and political causes that I'd expect she would really enjoy working in the suffrage movement.  And, of course it seems that many suffragists would make good friends (and potential lovers for Chava) based on common interests and ambitions.  Really, I'd love to read a sequel to this book... to see how things go for Chava and to see some happier times for her (hopefully).

Anyway, thanks again for recommending Beyond the Pale.  I'm very happy to have discovered this book and author.  I'd never heard of her prior to your recommendation.

In terms of what I'm going to read next... I don't know.  Not Lonesome Dove afterall...  :laugh: I've decided to put that off some more (it seems like a good Brokie thing to do, but I don't have a huge sense of urgency).  At the moment I don't have the willpower to tackle it.  Or, if I do start it, I'll go ahead and read other books at the same time (I read multiple books at once quite frequently actually).

I've already read Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit, and really liked it.  I've also read Written on the Body and Powerbook... I really like Winterson a lot.

Some day I'd like to read more of Dykewomon's writing.  So, that's a possiblity.  Or, I might take your suggestion about the No Margins anthology.  It might be nice to read shorter works.  I actually really love short stories as a form of writing.

But, essentially at the moment I'm open to any and all suggestions about what to read next.  I'll have to buy my next lesbian read, I don't have anything in hand right now.

Thinking of anthologies, here's a good one edited by Lillian Faderman (I think she'll become a running theme in this thread).  ;)

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Chloe Plus Olivia: An Anthology of Lesbian Literature from the Seventeenth Century to the Present (1994)

The title comes from a famous passage in Virginia Woolf's A Room of One's Own, 1929.  I actually quoted this little passage in the Favorite Quotations thread in the Women Today forum.  (A Room... was first written/delivered as a lecture)- " I turned the page and read... I am so sorry to break off so abruptly.  Are there no men present? Do you promise me that behind that curtain over there the figure of Sir Chartres Biron is not concealed? We are all women, you assure me?  Then I may tell you that the very next words I read were these - 'Chloe liked Olivia'... Do not start.  Do not blush.  Let us admit in the privacy of our own society that these things sometimes happen.  Sometimes women do like women."

And, this is the blurb from the back of the book:
"Chloe Plus Olivia is an anthology of four centuries of lesbian literature, with each piece set in historical and literary context.  The most complete compilation of its kind, it offers an enlightening review of the shifting concept of lesbian literature itself, followed by examples of six different genres: Romantic Friendship, Sexual Inversion, Exotic and Evil Lesbians, Lesbian Encoding, Lesbian Feminism and Post-Lesbian Feminism.  Authors included range from Katherine Philips in the seventeenth century and Emily Dickinson in the nineteenth century to Audre Lorde and Dorothy Allison in the twentieth century.  With a historical scope enhanced by Faderman's personal search for a definition of lesbian literature, Chloe Plus Olivia is certain to become the reference point from which all subsequent studies of lesbian writing will begin."




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Re: Lesbian and/or Feminist Literature and Writing
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2008, 02:52:09 pm »
Hey Bud,

Thanks for lending some more of your insightful comments on Beyond the Pale.  The way she wrote the fire scene was chilling, very moving... I agree.  That is where the waterworks really began when I was reading that section of the book.  It was definitely poetry and it brought the images crisp and clear to the mind.  For example, this line you quoted: " the black stripes on my shirt... burn first."   :-\  Haunting.


Thinking of anthologies, here's a good one edited by Lillian Faderman (I think she'll become a running theme in this thread).  ;)

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Chloe Plus Olivia: An Anthology of Lesbian Literature from the Seventeenth Century to the Present (1994)

Oh yeah, this is another 900+ page book (I am thinking of Lonesome Dove as another, lol ).
I bought this book from a used book seller on Amazon for like a dollar (plus shipping) - if you can believe it.  I was amazed at how cheap it was & very excited about adding it to my collection.


Here are a few others I've acquired recently that fall in the category of Lesbian Anthologies:

Mammoth Book of Lesbian Short Stories by Emma Donoghue (editor)



I absolutely loved this anthology.  It is no longer in print, so you probably have to get it used. 
Beautiful, moving, inspiring stories from women with different backgrounds, experiences... loved it.


A Woman Like That  by Joan Larkin



Another great anthology.  I recommend it!  :)



Penguin Book Of Lesbian Short Stories by Reynolds, Margaret




I bought another edition of this book with a different, much more provocative cover -



Note: The picture has been edited in order to not violate Bettermost image rules.  :P
The cover makes it kinda hard to read the book in public, lol.


Does Your Mama Know?: An Anthology of Black Lesbian Coming Out Stories by Lisa C. Moore (editor)





I loved this anthology.  I went through it in a few short days - it was very good.



Passions Between Women: British Lesbian Culture 1668-1801 by Emma Donoghuea





This one should be fun to read.  Not sure it falls in the "anthology" category though.



So, Amanda, more recommendations.  :)

~M


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Re: Lesbian and/or Feminist Literature and Writing
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2008, 01:54:21 am »

Wow!  Thanks for all these suggestions Milli! 8)

I actually have been curious about the Penguin book of Lesbian Short Stories.  I've seen it around and have meant to pick it up.  I think I definitely am interested in reading fiction next.  As much as I like history books, I'm in the mood for narrative lately.

I'll add your suggestions to my shopping list!

I'm heading to my parents' house tomorrow for a full week of holiday vacation.  So, maybe while I'm on vacation I'll have some time to hit the bookstores.

I'll work on some more recommendations of my own for this thread too. :)

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Re: Lesbian and/or Feminist Literature and Writing
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2008, 01:49:03 pm »

I have quite a few more titles to add to this thread as well, but it'll probably have to wait till after the holidays.
Looking forward to your recommendations, A.  :)


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Re: Lesbian and/or Feminist Literature and Writing
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2008, 04:25:35 pm »
I also just ordered another one of her novels (again, from a used books seller on Amazon), Moon Creek Road - a collection of short stories.




Got it in the mail today!  :)

I also received another book I ordered (both from the same used bookdealer on Amazon):
   
Piece of my heart: A lesbian of colour anthology (by Makeda Silvera (1991) )



Uncompromising in its honesty, at times humorous, angry, confrontational, and erotic, Piece of My Heart celebrates the lives of women both out and coming out. [alibris.com/]

About the editor - Makeda Silvera -
Makeda Silvera (born 1955 in Kingston, Jamaica) is a Caribbean Canadian novelist and short story writer.

Silvera emigrated to Canada at the age of 12 with her family, and currently lives in Toronto. She published two volumes of short stories in the 1990s before releasing her first novel, "The Revenge of Maria" in 1998, followed by The Heart Does Not Bend, in 2002. An out lesbian,[1] she is the cofounder and managing editor of Sister Vision Press, and has edited a number of anthologies, including Piece of My Heart, the first North American anthology of literature by lesbians of colour.
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Believe it or not - I got this book for 13 cents plus shipping.   :D 


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Re: Lesbian and/or Feminist Literature and Writing
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2008, 09:42:44 pm »
Thank you very much for these recommendations. I hope to read at least two of these books in the coming year. Tipping the Velvet has me wanting more!!
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« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2008, 07:42:37 pm »
Thank you very much for these recommendations. I hope to read at least two of these books in the coming year. Tipping the Velvet has me wanting more!!



That's great Sister Mod!  8)

I'll post some more of my own recommendations when I'm back home in Pittsburgh after Christmas.

LOL, on a tangential note... I did bring Lonesome Dove along on the plane for the trip out to Chicago since it was close at hand and I was inbetween books as I was heading out the door... and so far I'm liking it a lot more than I'd sort of expected.  I've already read over 100 pages.  And there really is a ton of material in that book already that seems relevant to BBM (especially very familiar symbols such as the moon, etc.).

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Re: Lesbian and/or Feminist Literature and Writing
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2009, 02:10:48 pm »
LOL, on a tangential note... I did bring Lonesome Dove along on the plane for the trip out to Chicago since it was close at hand and I was inbetween books as I was heading out the door... and so far I'm liking it a lot more than I'd sort of expected.  I've already read over 100 pages.  And there really is a ton of material in that book already that seems relevant to BBM (especially very familiar symbols such as the moon, etc.).

How goes the Lonesome Dove read, A?  How many pages have you conquered thus far?  ;)


On another note...
Piece of my heart: A lesbian of colour anthology (by Makeda Silvera (1991) )



I took this book with me on holiday and read almost half of it on my flights.  I am halfway through it now.
I am enjoying it greatly - it is highly recommended.  :)


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Re: Lesbian and/or Feminist Literature and Writing
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2009, 01:12:21 pm »


These, I am sure, would be two good additions to any lesbian erotic fiction collection..
I will return with reviews in the near future..  ;)


On Our Backs, Vol 1.



Amazon.com:
For 16 years, On Our Backs has published the lesbian community's sexiest and most controversial erotic fiction. Now, for the first time, the best stories from this groundbreaking magazine are collected in one volume. The talents of writers as varied as Dorothy Allison, Fetish Diva Midori, Jewelle Gomez, Pat Califia, Peggy Munson, Joan Nestle, and Sarah Schulman come together to provide stories of erotic intensity while also exploring many of the political and social issues surrounding lesbian sex. On Our Backs: The Best Erotic Fiction will stimulate a new generation of women-intellectually and otherwise.


Vol 2.