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Greetings!
I haven't read the first two posted chapters of this yet.  But, I was so excited to see that Testa Dura started a new story that I thought I'd post it here.  Based on her summary, it looks like it's going to be quite a serious story with some difficult topics covered.  I'm also very excited by the title of this story, since I live in Pittsburgh.  The Allegheny and the Mon. are two of the 3 major rivers in Pittsburgh.
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Here's a link to the first chapter.

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2009, 10:28:22 pm »
I've read it, and it's good. Serious topic, handled with restraint but taking care not to diminish its severity. Good introduction and characterization of the main characters and the events leading up to the major turning point that brings them to meet. I'm looking forward to reading more.

I did a doubletake at the fic's name though, even after I realized it was the name of two rivers. I have no idea at all how to pronounce those names!

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2009, 12:37:48 am »
I've read it, and it's good. Serious topic, handled with restraint but taking care not to diminish its severity. Good introduction and characterization of the main characters and the events leading up to the major turning point that brings them to meet. I'm looking forward to reading more.

I did a doubletake at the fic's name though, even after I realized it was the name of two rivers. I have no idea at all how to pronounce those names!

Thanks Mikaela.  It's nice to hear about it from someone who's already read the first chapters.  I still haven't started reading it.  The topic of domestic violence seems a little too heavy for my mood tonight.  But, I will definitely read this story.  The whole topic of Ennis and domestic violence reminds me of a few very heated debates in Open Forum on the topic (even extending to debates about how to think about him punching Jack).  I'll be curious about how the topic is handled in this story.  I loved 48 Days and Book of Dreams.  I was so surprised to see her start a new story!  Somehow I felt like she might be done after Book of Dreams.  I'm happy to see her active again.

And, LOL, about the names of the rivers.  Well, Allegheny is also the name of the county where Pittsburgh is located so it's kind of a common word here.  It's pronounced "Al-a-gain-y".  The Monongahela is a trickier word to pronounce and many folks simply call it the Mon.  It's pronounced something like "Mon-on-ga-hey-la".  It's the last part of the word that can sound a little strange.





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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2009, 05:11:20 am »
As much as I was hoping for more from Tes, the premise of the story pretty much turns me off, sorry to say. Since she's such a good writer I decided to give it a chance and overflew the two chapters. I will continue to do so until I either get hooked on the story or see that it's really not for me.


About the title, lol, my reaction was close to Mikaela's. I typed Allegheny into my didtionary even before I clicked the link, but nothing came up :laugh:. Thankfully she added a pic in her journal, so with one click to the story it became clear.

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2009, 05:32:32 am »
Thanks for the rec. I really enjoyed those two chapters and it´s interesting to get a glimpse of the darker side of Ennis.  Will definately keep reading.
The stories she has written earlier never caught my interest much, but I´m hoping this one will

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2009, 12:48:20 pm »
The stories she has written earlier never caught my interest much, but I´m hoping this one will

I'm sorry to hear this Bud!  I recommend giving 48 Days and Book of Dreams another try at some point.  Maybe someday when you're really hunting around for a new story to begin reading.  I think those two stories are true classics in the world of BBM fanfic.  I do recall that it took me some time to get into 48 Days way back long ago when I started reading it.   But now they're some of my favorites.



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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2009, 09:30:27 am »
I'm sorry to hear this Bud!  I recommend giving 48 Days and Book of Dreams another try at some point.  Maybe someday when you're really hunting around for a new story to begin reading.  I think those two stories are true classics in the world of BBM fanfic.  I do recall that it took me some time to get into 48 Days way back long ago when I started reading it.   But now they're some of my favorites.




Yeah, I really am looking for something new to read (if feels like I´ve read EVERYTHING) so I think I will give them another chance. :)

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2009, 11:45:44 am »
I haven't read 48 days/BoD either.
I seem to recall I saw a synopsis somewhere, way back when, to the effect that it was a spiritual/religious fic that took place in the afterlife....? Am I completely misremembering that, or is that really the premise for the storyline of those fics?

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2009, 11:54:52 am »
I haven't read 48 days/BoD either.
I seem to recall I saw a synopsis somewhere, way back when, to the effect that it was a spiritual/religious fic that took place in the afterlife....? Am I completely misremembering that, or is that really the premise for the storyline of those fics?

I think you must be mixing the description up with another story.  That's not the synopsis for 48 Days or Book of Dreams.  There's nothing religious/supernatural or spiritual about the stories.  They're both very down to earth stories.

48 Days is about the circumstances leading up to how Jack and Ennis move in together along with Bobby.  And Book of Dreams is the sequel. Both stories are about their struggles to establish a routine domestic life together, and fitting their children into their lives.  One of the nice things about both stories is the Testa Dura created some very good and compelling "other characters."

I'd say in a nutshell that they're domestic/relationship oriented stories.


Here's the link to the BetterMost "48 Days" thread:
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,4272.0.html

And, here's the linke to the BetterMost "Book of Dreams" thread:
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,7836.0.html


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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2009, 12:40:25 pm »
Thank you, Amanda!

I'm hereby giving those fics a healthy shove upwards on my list over "must reads".

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2009, 01:07:51 pm »
Hm, well I took a look.  It makes no sense for there to be Wyoming dialect in a story about Pittsburgh.
“Mr. Coyote always gets me good, boy,”  Ellery said, winking.  “Almost forgot what life was like before I got me my own personal coyote.”


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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2009, 01:21:35 pm »
Hm, well I took a look.  It makes no sense for there to be Wyoming dialect in a story about Pittsburgh.


Well, I confess I still haven't read the first two chapters of this new story.  Is it conceivable that they're meant to have moved to Pittsburgh from Wyoming?

I mean, I have friends here in Pittsburgh who have British accents and one good friend with a southern accent.

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2009, 03:44:26 pm »

Well, I confess I still haven't read the first two chapters of this new story.  Is it conceivable that they're meant to have moved to Pittsburgh from Wyoming?

I mean, I have friends here in Pittsburgh who have British accents and one good friend with a southern accent.



no sign of that being part of the plot so far, no.  Alma's family apparently is nearby, and there are other indications that they are long-term residents of the immediate area.  Even so, considering that the geography is intrinsic to the title and to the plot, the peculiarity of their dialect would need to be part of the back story right away to keep people like me wondering why they don't talk like Pennsylvanians.

What's even more baffling is that in the second chapter, Jack Twist and his boss DO talk like Pennsylvanians.  Or at least, mostly.  Still no explanation of why the del Mar household is in a different dialect.
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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2009, 04:12:58 pm »
Well, FWIW, my friend with the southern accent has lived here for over 20 years.  A dialect issue wouldn't bother me too much.

I'm still reluctant to dive into this story because of the theme described in the synopsis.  I think I'll have to be in just the right mood to actually sit down and read it.

It's also kind of interesting to think of the range of BBM fandom stories that take place in very different locales from the original story.  Testa Dura's other stories take place in Colorado (if my memory serves me correctly), so obviously much closer to the original.  I often wonder why folks decide to shift locations so much.

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2009, 05:29:26 pm »
Now, here's the upside to being a clueless foreigner: I have no idea how they speak in Pittsburg and in what way that is different from accents and mannerisms in Wyoming. It's all pretty much just "English" with some idioms thrown in to me. So there's no way such issues can distract me from the plot and characters!  :)

I think the fic is off to a promising start, and I liked the image of the two rivers coming from different directions, meeting, and after some initial struggles, rapids and muddy waters forming one bigger, stronger and united one. It seems very fitting in order to describe the J&E that might be emerging in the fic when we get to know them better.

I'm sure more backstory as to the fic's Dal Mar family will be provided in due course - without going back to check now, I think the story did say they'd moved from somewhere else when Ennis got the job he lost after few weeks when he couldn't keep his temper in check, maybe that wasn't the first time they moved either.

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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2009, 05:32:23 pm »
Now, here's the upside to being a clueless foreigner: I have no idea how they speak in Pittsburg and in what way that is different from accents and mannerisms in Wyoming. It's all pretty much just "English" with some idioms thrown in to me. So there's no way such issues can distract me from the plot and characters!  :)

I think the fic is off to a promising start, and I liked the image of the two rivers coming from different directions, meeting, and after some initial struggles, rapids and muddy waters forming one bigger, stronger and united one. It seems very fitting in order to describe the J&E that might be emerging in the fic when we get to know them better.

I'm sure more backstory as to the fic's Dal Mar family will be provided in due course - without going back to check now, I think the story did say they'd moved from somewhere else when Ennis got the job he lost after few weeks when he couldn't keep his temper in check, maybe that wasn't the first time they moved either.

yes, they moved 50 miles.  The accent he and Alma are using are from 1500 miles further away.
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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2009, 07:21:14 pm »
Well, as I said, maybe that wasn't the first time they moved.

But at any rate, I think it shapes up to be a good fic, and even if I did know enough to distinguish the various US dialects I hardly think some inconsistency in that regard would be an obstacle to my personal enjoyment.

I think for me, it's first and foremost characterization that is the make or break deal in whether a fic speaks to me. So we shall see.

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2009, 08:37:10 pm »
I was hesitant to read it as well because I hate "bad!Ennis" stories but I took a chance. I read the 2nd chapter first and it made the first chapter much easier to manage.
As for dialect-it's an interesting thing. In written form, Ennis and Alma could have been black people from Birmingham AL cause they kinda sound like my father.

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2009, 08:38:24 pm »

I think the fic is off to a promising start, and I liked the image of the two rivers coming from different directions, meeting, and after some initial struggles, rapids and muddy waters forming one bigger, stronger and united one. It seems very fitting in order to describe the J&E that might be emerging in the fic when we get to know them better.


Heya Mikaela!
 
Here's a photograph of downtown Pittsburgh.  From this angle you're pretty much looking east from the Ohio River towards the Allegheny (the smaller river to the left in the pic) and the Mon (the larger river to the right).  This part of the city is called the Point, because it's where the 3 rivers converge and the bit of land that contains downtown comes to such a crisp point.  The camera is positioned on the south side of the Mon. River.  Lots of steel mills used to dot both rivers and the Ohio, but now most of those are completely gone.  The Edgar Thompson Works steel mill mentioned in the story is one of the only steel mills that still exists in the area (and one of the oldest/ most historic mills).  If you follow the Mon. from this point shown in the picture for many miles southeast passed downtown you'd eventually come to the mill.  And, the mill is in the borough of Braddock, as the story mentions.  Braddock is a tough part of the metro area... but there are also little artist enclaves in that area too these days.

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The confluence of the rivers is a nice metaphor for Jack and Ennis coming together.   I agree.

All of the local details seem accurate in this story so far.  The borough names, neighborhood names, street names, etc. are accurate.  For instance, Observatory Hill, mentioned in reference to Jack and his mother is on the "North Side"... meaning the land north of the Allegheny River.  In terms of Pittsburgh geography, Ennis and Jack are more or less coming from opposite ends of the city.

I just finished reading the two chapters, so I feel like I can comment here for real.  The incident between Ennis and Alma was certainly hard to read.  But, there was a good sense of realism to it.  I'm not terribly surprised that Testa Dura would be interested in dealing with violence against women as a theme, and handling it in a serious way... In her other stories (I don't think this is really much of a spoiler), one of the main "other characters" is a woman who has survived a rape and a lot of attention is paid to the repurcussions of that event on her life, etc.  

I'll be particularly curious to see how Jack's role develops.  I also really liked his boss Trudy.

And, not to be-labor the discussion about accents and dialects... I noticed that Jack and Trudy don't seem to speak the same way as Ennis and Alma.  The writing of Jack and Trudy's dialogue seems very straight-forward and un-accented.  I wonder if the missing "g's" at the end of words when Ennis and Alma speak might be meant as an indicator of different social group.  I'm not sure that dropping the "g" at the end of a verb, like "goin'" or "walkin'", etc. is necessarily exclusive to Wyoming or a western accent.  The use of "warsh" I thought might be an attempt at throwing in a Brokieism.  But, yes, I think it's too soon to really know a lot about the backgrounds of any of the characters.

p.s. Heya Roux!  You're post came in as I was writing this. :)

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2009, 09:32:19 pm »
Hey Sweetness!

Thanks for the detail you added-it really makes the story much more interesting. Being from opposite ends of the city mirrors the original story-being from opposite ends of the state. Or maybe more just being opposites.

I agree that dropping "g's may not be an indiction of origin and may be more of a socioeconomic indicator. I was teased mercilessly growing up for my speech because it was "proper" and I didn't talk like many of my peers. My sister and I have somewhat different pronunciations (my brother and I are quite similar) but it may be due to her being an ex-pat. There are many influences on people's speech patterns so, at this point, I wouldn't hold that against the story  :P

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2009, 10:16:21 am »
Hey Sweetness!

Thanks for the detail you added-it really makes the story much more interesting. Being from opposite ends of the city mirrors the original story-being from opposite ends of the state. Or maybe more just being opposites.

I agree that dropping "g's may not be an indiction of origin and may be more of a socioeconomic indicator. I was teased mercilessly growing up for my speech because it was "proper" and I didn't talk like many of my peers. My sister and I have somewhat different pronunciations (my brother and I are quite similar) but it may be due to her being an ex-pat. There are many influences on people's speech patterns so, at this point, I wouldn't hold that against the story  :P

Hey there RouxRoux!  :-*

Last night I had a really pleasant little comment exchange with Tes about some of these questions that have come up in our thread here.  If you want to see her answers, you can find my comment (and the resulting little thread of replies) near the bottom of the second page of comments for Chapter 2.  My name at LJ is the same as it is here, but my avatar is a picture of bluebirds.

Basically, about the accent/ dropped-g's, it was done deliberately and she said it's just meant to indicate a casual style of speaking.  She said that when Jack's not at work he will occasionally speak that way too.



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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2009, 01:03:34 pm »
Heya Mikaela!
 
Here's a photograph of downtown Pittsburgh.  

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Thank you Amanda!  :)

I must say downtown Pittsburg looks like a very nice place. The rivers meet much more peacefully than I had envisaged, but the symbolism works at any rate. And what's that I spy at the very Point there ? A big, strategically-placed and distinctly phallic-looking fountain and/or column?  8)

Let's hope that one serves as clear foreshadowning for what's to come, too. I mean, we *are* talking slash here!  ;)

Like you I very much found Jack's boss Trudy an appealing OC. I like her a lot. Capable, no-nonsense, empatic and very decent sort of person.

I'll trot over and read your little exchange with TestaDura in the comments to the fic. I'm interested to see what she's been replying.

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2009, 01:19:52 pm »

I must say downtown Pittsburg looks like a very nice place. The rivers meet much more peacefully than I had envisaged, but the symbolism works at any rate. And what's that I spy at the very Point there ? A big, strategically-placed and distinctly phallic-looking fountain and/or column?  8)


Thanks Mikaela! :)

Yes, Pittsburgh is almost always a very pleasant surprise for folks who have never visited here before.  With all the bridges, hills, and rivers... geographically speaking and in terms of the cityscape, it's really very pretty.  Because of all the hills, you get really impressive vistas from many different areas in the city.

It's very different here now compared to the city's old, industrial history and lingering reputation.  So much of the industrial landscape is completely erased... it's amazing to think about how much of the industrial structures are completely gone now.  The air and rivers are much cleaner now too, so that's a really nice thing. 

And, you're right about the fountain at the point of the Point.  It's a simple fountain and the water shoots straight up, and I'm sure is supposed to signify the spot where the 3 rivers meet.  The green part of the Point at the narrowest part of the triangle/ with the fountain, is called Point State Park.  For the 4th of July people congregate in that park and they shoot fireworks off from barges in the rivers, and it's truly spectacular.

Visually speaking, the rivers often do look very calm. But, I think they each actually have a pretty strong undercurrent.





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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2009, 10:32:36 am »
Chapter 2 is up. (the author has renamed the two previously posts Chapter 1: part 1 and part 2)

http://testa-dura.livejournal.com/31113.html?view=950153#t950153



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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2009, 10:53:40 pm »
Hm, well I took a look.  It makes no sense for there to be Wyoming dialect in a story about Pittsburgh.

Writing in American dialects is a bit of an effort in futility. Part of the problem is the commonality of certain structures, but also because of cultural references.

The structural part has to do with stuff like the finite ways English has to indicate variations in vowel sounds. Another thing is that contractions, truncations, mispronunciations, and word order are also shared by multiple American regionalisms. "I'm gittin' it" could be used to spell a statement by a man or woman from Brooklyn, Atlanta, St. Louis, Riverton, or San Francisco.

Cultural reference comes into play to tell us which sounds are likely to go with those words. If you know the character is an urban black, you'll hear "I'm gittin' it" in your head one way. If you know the character is from a ranch in Wyoming, you'll hear it different.

I don't see testadura writing writing her dialogue in a Wyoming dialect. i her writing in dialect period. Knowing that Ennis & family moved up from 40 miles south of Pittsburgh, I expect them to have something closer to a West Virginia accent. Remember that geographically, southwest Pennsylvania is cradled by the "finger" and "thumb" of West Virginia. I've visited Waynesburg, PA. There's plenty of West Virginian accents of varying thickness in that town. So I hear West Virginia when I read the dialogue.
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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2009, 11:37:57 pm »
chapter 3

http://testa-dura.livejournal.com/31306.html

Just read all three chapters, and I'm genuinely impressed.  I was drawn in from the beginning, even though it is diffcult reading about Ennis beating down poor Alma.    I can't wait for chapter 4.  I'm hooked!

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2009, 02:06:30 pm »
I don't find a lot of use in giving two characters a dialect that I don't see related to Pennsylvania in any way, while the others talk in an uninflected fashion.  It just puts me off the story.  And it may not be a "Wyoming" dialect, but it sure hews close enough to what Annie Proulx's dialect is in "Brokeback" up to and including "warsh".

Never met a Pennsylvania native that said "warsh."
“Mr. Coyote always gets me good, boy,”  Ellery said, winking.  “Almost forgot what life was like before I got me my own personal coyote.”


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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2009, 02:15:38 pm »
I don't find a lot of use in giving two characters a dialect that I don't see related to Pennsylvania in any way, while the others talk in an uninflected fashion.  It just puts me off the story.  And it may not be a "Wyoming" dialect, but it sure hews close enough to what Annie Proulx's dialect is in "Brokeback" up to and including "warsh".

Never met a Pennsylvania native that said "warsh."

Well, as I posted a while back, I asked her about the use of language directly and she said it was deliberate and not meant to indicate a dialect.

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2009, 07:43:38 pm »
In the Ohio valley - in which I was BORN and reared - it is very very common to hear warsh.  In fact they even say warshing machine.  The closer you get to West Virginia the more you hear it.

Thanks for reading,

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2009, 03:16:27 pm »
Great to see you here Tes. Thanks for writing and sharing your story with us

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2009, 05:59:20 pm »

Yes indeed! Welcome to BetterMost Tes!  :D

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2009, 08:48:19 pm »
Hi Tes,

As one of the fanfic co-mods, let me welcome you to Bettermost. It's good when authors can participate in the discussion with readers.

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2009, 10:13:30 pm »
Welcome to BM, Tess.  I'm really enjoying your fic, and can't wait to read the next chapter. 

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #34 on: March 25, 2009, 04:33:55 am »
I don't find a lot of use in giving two characters a dialect that I don't see related to Pennsylvania in any way, while the others talk in an uninflected fashion.  It just puts me off the story.  And it may not be a "Wyoming" dialect, but it sure hews close enough to what Annie Proulx's dialect is in "Brokeback" up to and including "warsh".

Never met a Pennsylvania native that said "warsh."

Both of my parents say "warsh". They throw quite a few random "r"s around...
They also pronounce "coach" as "coarch.
It took me into junior high to get rid of "ax".

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #35 on: March 25, 2009, 05:13:03 pm »
  Welcome Tess:
      It was wonderful to see you here after all this time.  I love your fics and think you have a great grasp
on the psychology of your characters.    Looking forward to the rest of your stories, and hope you learn
to enjoy your time here on Bettermost. 
      It has been my experience in regards to the slang you are using, like warsh and goin, that it is more
an indication of educational status, than regional.  People use what I call lazy speech patterns, I have been
raised all my life around people that talked that way, and I was in California.  They were mostly the so called
"Oakies" from the depression era migration to California.  I didnt ever think of it as regional, so much as
class and educational.

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #36 on: March 26, 2009, 06:02:57 pm »

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2009, 09:41:15 pm »
this story really is moving along nicely. I like the pace and I find the events very realistic.

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2009, 09:53:43 pm »
Thanks for the update Bud. :)   I've actually fallen way behind with this story. 

The domestic violence starting point has been very, very hard for me to get past.  I find it nearly or maybe entirely impossible to develop a sense of sympathy for Ennis with that kind of starting point.  I was hoping I'd be able to get beyond that, but I hadn't been able to do that after the first few chapters.  So, I pretty much stopped reading a couple chapters ago. 

I still really admire Tes's writing, and as I've said repeatedly 48 Days and Book of Dreams are some of my all time favorite stories.

Maybe I'll give this one another try at some point. 



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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2009, 05:20:33 pm »
I hope you´ll give it another try, Amanda. The abuse isn´t swept under the rug as if it means nothing, but dealt with and the author realy has Ennis dealing with the consequences.

Chapter 8 is up. This story has become my latest fic addiction

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Re: Where the Allegheny Meets the Monongahela - New story by Testa Dura!
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2009, 08:15:18 pm »
I also visited Pittsburgh this weekend. I just had to get this shot of the two rivers meeting