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Re: Dave Cullen's new book - Oprah show cancelled
« Reply #30 on: April 21, 2009, 09:49:12 pm »
are you familiar with the situation at all??

they had great parents. they weren't bullied. They had been in trouble before for hurting other people.

their parents DID try to help them. They were in the system.


Yes, I am familiar with the situation. Obviously something was off. Kids that feel good about themselves don´t go around shooting people.

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Re: Dave Cullen's new book - Oprah show cancelled
« Reply #31 on: April 21, 2009, 09:51:05 pm »
Yes, I am familiar with the situation. Obviously something was off. Kids that feel good about themselves don´t go around shooting people.


YES!! they were EVIL!

bad kids!


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Re: Dave Cullen's new book - Oprah show cancelled
« Reply #32 on: April 21, 2009, 09:53:14 pm »
Yes, I am familiar with the situation. Obviously something was off. Kids that feel good about themselves don´t go around shooting people.


YES!! they were EVIL!

bad kids!



yeah yeah  ::)


everyone´s evil. You are evil, I am evil, we are all pure evil. And don´t forget all the movie villains. And chocolate fudge. Evil I tell you!

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Re: Dave Cullen's new book - Oprah show cancelled
« Reply #33 on: April 21, 2009, 10:00:41 pm »
no, see there you go!! comparing yourself to a mass murderer..you are NOT responsible for what bad people do. I know it gives you some feeling of control but it is a lie. You can't control other people. You need to learn how to take care of yourself so you won't feel so helpless.

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Lessons of Columbine
« Reply #34 on: April 21, 2009, 10:29:34 pm »
I am pretty familiar with the situation since I have lived in the same county as Columbine as long as the Columbine killers parents have, and I have raised two children there. It was a "perfect storm" situation where stress, parental neglect, a wasteland Suburbia, video game/tv/internet culture, and gifted minds gone awry came together.

Across the street from my children's school is a maximum security prison. The Unabomber spent time there, and Timothy McVeigh. Both men were probably gifted, like Eric Harris was.

If we "removed all the evil people from society" then there would be nobody left. In the US, we already incarcerate more people than in any other developed nation! I would probably be behind bars, since a person just called me "evil" recently, when I got out my Tarot deck to do a reading.
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Re: Lessons of Columbine
« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2009, 12:18:19 am »
I am pretty familiar with the situation since I have lived in the same county as Columbine as long as the Columbine killers parents have, and I have raised two children there. It was a "perfect storm" situation where stress, parental neglect, a wasteland Suburbia, video game/tv/internet culture, and gifted minds gone awry came together.

Across the street from my children's school is a maximum security prison. The Unabomber spent time there, and Timothy McVeigh. Both men were probably gifted, like Eric Harris was.

If we "removed all the evil people from society" then there would be nobody left. In the US, we already incarcerate more people than in any other developed nation! I would probably be behind bars, since a person just called me "evil" recently, when I got out my Tarot deck to do a reading.

oh I think there might be one or two people in America that obey laws and dont' hurt people. This kind of leftist socialist thinking is silly. This puts victims in the same group as criminals.

so according to you no one should be in jail at all? The Unabomber should be allowed to continue sending bombs, Manson should be released...

Sharon Tate (being as guilty as Manson) deserved to be cut open like a fish. It is all the same...there is no difference..

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Re: Lessons of Columbine
« Reply #36 on: April 22, 2009, 12:24:27 am »

so according to you no one should be in jail at all? The Unabomber should be allowed to continue sending bombs, Manson should be released...

Sharon Tate (being as guilty as Manson) deserved to be cut open like a fish. It is all the same...there is no difference..


Did I say this? I'm looking at my post again...I don't see any evidence of me saying this... such an empty, useless argument!
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Re: Lessons of Columbine
« Reply #37 on: April 22, 2009, 06:33:53 am »
Did I say this? I'm looking at my post again...I don't see any evidence of me saying this... such an empty, useless argument!

YOU said:

If we "removed all the evil people from society" then there would be nobody left. In the US, we already incarcerate more people than in any other developed nation! I would probably be behind bars, since a person just called me "evil" recently, when I got out my Tarot deck to do a reading.

what do you mean by "there would be nobody left"? to me, you are saying we are all equal. That a baby is as guilty of evil as Manson. I dont' see any other option offered here.

Talk about a useless, empty argument. HERE is one.

you are equating using tarot cards with murdering thirteen kids.

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Re: Lessons of Columbine
« Reply #38 on: April 22, 2009, 07:48:52 am »
I am pretty familiar with the situation since I have lived in the same county as Columbine as long as the Columbine killers parents have, and I have raised two children there. It was a "perfect storm" situation where stress, parental neglect, a wasteland Suburbia, video game/tv/internet culture, and gifted minds gone awry came together.

Across the street from my children's school is a maximum security prison. The Unabomber spent time there, and Timothy McVeigh. Both men were probably gifted, like Eric Harris was.

If we "removed all the evil people from society" then there would be nobody left. In the US, we already incarcerate more people than in any other developed nation! I would probably be behind bars, since a person just called me "evil" recently, when I got out my Tarot deck to do a reading.

I just caught this....seriously? right across the street? down here our prisons are put out a ways from other buildings, usually surrounded by some land....especially maximum security prisons. Do the prisoners taunt the children? If I was a parent there, I would have really protested. What if there is a breakout or a riot? wouldn't the children be at risk?

maybe they thought it would be a deterrent to the kids, having to see prisoners every day... :laugh: :P

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Re: Dave Cullen's new book - Oprah show cancelled
« Reply #39 on: April 22, 2009, 08:09:52 am »
no, see there you go!! comparing yourself to a mass murderer..you are NOT responsible for what bad people do. I know it gives you some feeling of control but it is a lie. You can't control other people. You need to learn how to take care of yourself so you won't feel so helpless.

As always you are arguing against yourself and not against anything I´ve said. It´s becoming a bit tedious.