Author Topic: What would it take to let Jack be OK about himself? Ennis? Mrs. Twist? Mr.Twist?  (Read 3378 times)

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          What would it take to let Jack be OK about himself?

Ennis?

Mrs. Twist?

Mr.Twist?                 


Isn't there many differences????

But how could Jack become to really feel OK about himself as a gay (homosexual) man?

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My answer is: unconditional acceptance and love, from the very beginning of life.
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Merci Front-Ranger !

What you say:
         unconditional acceptance and love, from the very beginning of life          ,

may I ask if that is possible?

Who was the French philosopher that thought that a child if it came
from the woods and therefore, could teach self?

Or did he say that it was society that changed it?

Was it Rousseau?

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Merci Front-Ranger !

What you say:
         unconditional acceptance and love, from the very beginning of life          ,

may I ask if that is possible?

Who was the French philosopher that thought that a child if it came
from the woods and therefore, could teach self?



Was it Rousseau?


Yes. Only for boys, though.

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Why do you state a difference?

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Why do you state a difference?

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That´s what Rousseau said, I believe. That that kind of education should only be for boys.

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Merci Buffy! Happy Easter!

I wonder why he (Rousseau) thought ONLY for BOYS?

Jack had some education, and so did Ennis! Mrs. Twist did too?

I can not see why females can NOT be educated[/color]!

Do you too?

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I am uterly surprised that these subjects are not multiply talk about on Bettermost!

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Artiste Question about Rousseau
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2009, 05:56:30 pm »
This is a fascinating topic, Artiste. The branch of philosophy started by Rousseau held that Nature is good and that in order to be good we have to go back to our roots and be part of Nature. When he espoused that boys do this as a rite of passage, perhaps he was a prisoner of the times when boys and girls were raised very differently, boys for the world at large, and girls for the drawing room and hearth. One could argue that, were Rousseau alive today, would he broaden his prescription to solve society's woes to encompass all genders?

Rousseau's philosophies extended far beyond Europe. In fact, the very first Western (or so it's called) novel by Owen Wister, The Virginian, presented its protagonist as "Nature's Nobleman" a cowboy who owes his virtuousness to his life in Nature, subject to her laws and teachings. This strain of thinking was preserved and expanded by Thoreau and many others. In fact, Annie Proulx sent our boys up on the mountain where they truly learned right and wrong, in a manner that Rousseau would have definitely approved!
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Merci beaucoup Front-Ranger!


So Annie is a Rousseau ?

In more than one way?


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