Gay Marriage Sinks Miss California's shot at Crown

[delalluvia]

Shouldn't judges be impartial? I don't think Perez Hilton was. I blame the pageant officials.

Impartial to what?  The Miss USA contest is looking for someone to represent the USA (and their sponsors) and go on to compete in Miss Universe, representing the USA.  They have standards by which they judge each contestant to be worthy of this.  Perhaps bigotry isn't high on their list of traits they want in a Miss USA and they - being the judges with the support of their sponsors - are the ones who decide what they want.  That is their perogative.  A beauty pageant isn't a democracy.

[Shasta542]

Impartial to what?  The Miss USA contest is looking for someone to represent the USA (and their sponsors) and go on to compete in Miss Universe, representing the USA.  They have standards by which they judge each contestant to be worthy of this.  Perhaps bigotry isn't high on their list of traits they want in a Miss USA and they - being the judges with the support of their sponsors - are the ones who decide what they want.  That is their perogative.  A beauty pageant isn't a democracy.

But for a pageant judge to say that a contestant lost because she's a dumb bitch? That isn't a good judge, IMO. Pageant officials should at least pick a judge who has a little discretion---one who can keep his/her mouth shut.

[injest]

Didn't they both choose their own course of action?

I don't understand blaming Perez Hilton for  Prejean's actions and not holding Prejean responsible for Hilton's actions.

Did either force the other to make their responses?

Didn't both have cause to be angry?

Either both of these people are each responsible for their own actions or neither is.

no, I dont' think so...as I pointed out, Ms Prejean did not attack Mr Lavandeira.

HE however DID attack her.

entirely different situation...and context is everything.

[delalluvia]

But for a pageant judge to say that a contestant lost because she's a dumb bitch?

   I don't think that's the total reason that Perez believes she lost.  Otherwise, how many other contestants in a beauty pageant might fit that description?  

That isn't a good judge, IMO. Pageant officials should at least pick a judge who has a little discretion---one who can keep his/her mouth shut.[/b][/color]

We have yet to figure out how he became a judge in the first place, but remember, he didn't make his comments until after the contest was over.  He was quiet about it until then.  How much discretion do you want?

[injest]

Impartial to what?  The Miss USA contest is looking for someone to represent the USA (and their sponsors) and go on to compete in Miss Universe, representing the USA.  They have standards by which they judge each contestant to be worthy of this.  Perhaps bigotry isn't high on their list of traits they want in a Miss USA and they - being the judges with the support of their sponsors - are the ones who decide what they want.  That is their perogative.  A beauty pageant isn't a democracy.

no one is saying she should have been awarded the crown.

but I am saying she should not have been attacked as she was.

[delalluvia]

no one is saying she should have been awarded the crown.

but I am saying she should not have been attacked as she was.

Some people get very angry at bigots.  You can't keep people from being angry and lashing out at them verbally.

[louisev]

Impartial to what?  The Miss USA contest is looking for someone to represent the USA (and their sponsors) and go on to compete in Miss Universe, representing the USA.  They have standards by which they judge each contestant to be worthy of this.  Perhaps bigotry isn't high on their list of traits they want in a Miss USA and they - being the judges with the support of their sponsors - are the ones who decide what they want.  That is their perogative.  A beauty pageant isn't a democracy.

I think at least as large an issue is that the Miss California pageant funded her new chicken cutlets to "enhance" her chances in the Miss USA contest.

[delalluvia]

I think at least as large an issue is that the Miss California pageant funded her new chicken cutlets to "enhance" her chances in the Miss USA contest.

That was an interesting factoid.  Reminds me of the upper-scale topless joints who make this offer to their top dancers...

[Clyde-B]

no, I dont' think so...as I pointed out, Ms Prejean did not attack Mr Lavandeira.

HE however DID attack her.

entirely different situation...and context is everything.

I consider someone trying to deny me rights an attack.

Being pleasant and cheerful about it seems to me just that much more cavalier and cold blooded.  If I'm stabbed in the back, it doesn't make it any more pleasant if it's done with a smile.  In some ways it makes it that much more heinous.

[delalluvia]

I consider someone trying to deny me rights an attack.

Being pleasant and cheerful about it seems to me just that much more cavalier and cold blooded.  If I'm stabbed in the back, it doesn't make it any more pleasant if it's done with a smile.  In some ways it makes it that much more heinous.

Agree.