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Re: Adam loses to Kris on Idol...reminiscent of anything?
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2009, 09:15:16 am »
Last evening AOL News had an analysis of Adam's loss, five reasons why he didn't win, that sort of thing. I wish I'd saved or copied it, but the most memorable point--or, rather, the point that stuck with me--was that perhaps Kris is simply more the type that teenage girls go for than Adam.

Like the teenage girls swooning over Robert Pattinson in Twilight. ...

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Re: Adam loses to Kris on Idol...reminiscent of anything?
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2009, 10:27:04 am »
It was directly stated on the Australian nation-wide evening news tonight that, with his mascara and black nail varnish, Adam lost because he was just "too gay for America."   :-\
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Re: Adam loses to Kris on Idol...reminiscent of anything?
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2009, 10:36:05 am »
It was directly stated on the Australian nation-wide evening news tonight that, with his mascara and black nail varnish, Adam lost because he was just "too gay for America."   :-\

Interesting. I thought the whole "emo-kid"/metrosexual thing was in right now. Maybe its just not popular with that broad a fan-base yet.
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Re: Adam loses to Kris on Idol...reminiscent of anything?
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2009, 10:59:48 am »
Thank you, milomorris, for the great reprint of the review of Adam's voice and charisma from the Opera professionals. Very enlightening!
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Re: Adam loses to Kris on Idol...reminiscent of anything?
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2009, 11:16:57 am »
"TV GUIDE vieweres disaree wtih who won. 

Lambert Finishes First With TV Guide
Though he was America’s runner-up, Adam Lambert tops TV Guide magazine’s list of most desired Memorial Day guests. Among their choices of invitees from the television and reality realm, Lambert beat out Pam and Jim from NBC’s The Office and Bree Hodge from ABC’s Desperate Housewives as the most sought after weekend guest for TV’s all-star BBQ.

Lambert was also a winner according to the magazine’s online hot topic poll for the day. In response to the question, “Do you think America got it right on American Idol?” 53% responded “No.” "

http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid85195.asp

Personally, I think after the Ms California thing, many of the Christian right types thought this would be a chance for payback. Afterall, they think gays are on a roll (with new states granting same sex marriage, civil unions, etc etc).

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Re: Adam loses to Kris on Idol...reminiscent of anything?
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2009, 11:47:28 am »
Personally, I think after the Ms California thing, many of the Christian right types thought this would be a chance for payback. Afterall, they think gays are on a roll (with new states granting same sex marriage, civil unions, etc etc).

"Payback???" I really don't think we know enough about the voting audience of American Idol to say that there was any anti-gay factor in this. Besides, do we know for sure that Lambert is gay? Do we know that he is perceived to be gay by the voting audience?

There might not be any trouble here from a gay/straight perspective, and I don't think its wise to stir any up.
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Re: Adam loses to Kris on Idol...reminiscent of anything?
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2009, 05:47:24 pm »

 A cute Post-finale moment...  :)


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Re: Adam loses to Kris on Idol...reminiscent of anything?
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2009, 08:28:55 pm »
Awesome, just awesome. That speaks volumes for Adam's and Kris's sweet, genuine down-to-earthness and I'm glad for them. May they stay that way!!

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Re: Adam loses to Kris on Idol...reminiscent of anything?
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2009, 08:55:25 pm »
Total cuteness!!!!!  :D
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Re: Adam loses to Kris on Idol...reminiscent of anything?
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2009, 09:52:23 pm »
uh oh...

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/realityrocks/215180/aikens-lambert-rant-claymate-turns-to-clayhate/
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Clay Aiken and Adam Lambert's names have been linked quite a bit in the media lately--not just because of rumors (reported in the Chicago Sun-Times last week) that Clay actually wanted to record a duet with Adam, but because after Adam's shocking second-place finish on American Idol this week, many Lambert supporters have predicted that Adam will follow in Clay's footsteps and ultimately be more successful than the singer who actually won this year, Kris Allen.

But yesterday on his official website, ClayOnline.com, Clay Aiken made it clear in a personal blog titled "Silence Broken" that he is not a Lambert supporter at all.

Posting in the subscription-only "Ultimate Membership" section of his site, Clay responded to a fan's query about his opinions on Wednesday night's Idol finale with this rant:

"Now that it's all over, and for the record.... I couldn't be happier about the way AI ended this year. I only turn the show on once a season, and only to see what the set looks like each year. This year, I happened to turn it during the minute that Adam Lambert was singing 'Ring of Fire' and, at that moment, thought my ears would bleed. Contrived, awful, and slightly frightening! I wasn't really a fan and found myself surprised whenever folks told me that they liked him. Granted, I never saw another performance (and many folks who I trust said that he was great) but I can't imagine I would have enjoyed it. Just not my cup of tea at all. To each his own. I never saw Kris sing on the show, but whether he was good or not is really relative. It's usually a matter of taste, right? But Idol is not always a matter of musical taste only. It's about the person you like. From what little I saw, Kris seemed likable. (That's not to say that Adam isn't just as likable as anyone.. maybe more so... I don't know) When Ruben and I were standing next to each other every night (many years ago) you had two equally talented, equally unlikely, equally unpolished contestants.... so it really was a matter of taste as to who was voted for. While some may argue that one of us was hyped more than the other, I don't feel that was the case. However, this year, there was an obvious bias. Not even having watched the show, I can tell you that I was WELL aware of the bias from the judges as to who should win. In my opinion, that is awfully unattractive. I don't think I am alone."

Wow! And...MEOW!

Surely some will jump to the conclusion that Clay's bitter post was spurned by his un-amicable split with BMG and 19 Entertainment, or by 19's rumored attempts to prevent Clay from collaborating with Adam. And it does seem that if there's any "feud" going on here, it's between Clay and the Idol machine, not Clay and Adam himself.
The blog continues:

"In my opinion, it all often comes down to that last night of voting. Until the finale, folks are voting for the contestant that they want to see continue. But, I believe that on that last night, the dynamic changes. No longer forced to choose one person that they want to see win, the audience can effectively vote AGAINST the person that they don't want to see win. In the case of season two this might have happened. There may have been some folks who voted for myself or Ruben because they didn't like the other of us. I was the nerdy little girly boy who some didn't want to see win, so they may have voted for Ruben. I don't know. .. But again, I feel that Ruben and I were fairly matched. We both had our detractors and negatives, but I feel we were both very worthy of being on that stage in that moment, and either of us would have been worthy of winning. The show was different then, and folks made it in seasons 1-3 because they were 'real' people who happened to sing/entertain well. But, somewhere along the way, AI stopped being about real people.

In a battle between David and Goliath, my money is on David!

I think many voters got sick of being 'told who to vote for'. I think many were turned off by the blatant favoritism shown towards one contestant. Therefore, on that last night, they used their votes against a contestant that they were tired of hearing about and for the contestant who had been written off. And, at the same time, I think they voted AGAINST an American Idol that has, for four years now, been more about the slick productions and polished contestants than it has been about finding the raw talent that it did in its first three seasons.

Those votes for Kris were also votes to return the show to its roots of finding 'real' contestants with undiscovered talent and giving them the chance to grow and shine. They were votes that said 'we're tired of seeing contestants who already seem to know it all'.

Will American Idol choose to listen to the resounding and clarion call that those voters gave them?.... 'Enough with the pretention. More Rubens, more Clays, more Fantasias and Tamyras and Kellys please.' My faith has always been in the voters. I think they have gotten it right every year (mine included). It's now up to American Idol to decide if it will finally REALLY listen to the folks that keep it on the air."

Hmmm...but you know, maybe Clay's motives aren't so sinister after all. Maybe (despite his claim that he never saw Kris perform on the show, which seems odd) he just prefers Kris Allen's music--which, like Clay's, is pretty safe, sweet, and mellow. However, if Clay WAS trying to record a duet with Adam, this blog sure isn't going to help his chances. Maybe he should try to collaborate with Kris instead?