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Offline Penthesilea

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Re: Marajuana
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2006, 03:38:38 pm »
On the other hand, sometimes I wonder if my friends' parents weren't a lot wilder than I used to think.

I'd bet. I always thought that my extended family (parents, uncles, aunts, some of their friends) were honest, square and boring people whose wildest times consisted in only one beer more than appropriate every now and then, and staying out longer than their parent's had allowed.
How wrong I was. They were a young and wild bunch. And I learned some pretty "undescent" things about my oh-so-strongly-catholic aunt.


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I bet some of them actually had sex, for instance.

(Not mine, though, of course. ;D )

Of course, lol. I'm sure I was brought to earth from the strork too  ;)


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But my experience is that people who didn't grow up using drugs as teenagers are somewhat unlikely to start using them as they approach 40,

I know some parents from friends who tried their first pot when they were in their fifties. Their children (then in their thirties) were tired of lying and hiding to their parents and finally told their parents that they were smoking pot for ages. Some of the parents were eager to try it themselves  ;D

But sure it's more unlikely than start using drugs in ones teenage years.


Back to Ennis and Jack:
I still think it fits somehow. In the 70s, when smoking dope became popular, they were between 26 and 36. More around thirty than around forty years.
Jack came around a lot. And he was in general more boyish, playful, more of a dreamer, more of a risk-taker, more open to having fun in various forms and more willing to trespass given rules (shooting a sheep, for example) than Ennis was. More open in many ways. So I can picture him being open to try something new, something that promises to be fun.
And Mexico is a good argument from delalluvia.

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Re: Marajuana
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2006, 10:18:08 pm »
Good. So, prenant pause, I've inhaled. How about you?
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Re: Marajuana
« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2006, 10:43:33 pm »
yeah nakymaton, in the story Jack came into money and found ways to spend it. He got his teeth fixed.
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Re: Marajuana
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2006, 11:57:57 pm »
Good. So, prenant pause, I've inhaled. How about you?

Wouldn't it be easier to ask who hasn't?

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Re: Marajuana
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2006, 02:12:15 am »
Wouldn't it be easier to ask who hasn't?


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Re: Marajuana
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2006, 09:37:11 am »
Wouldn't it be easier to ask who hasn't?

I haven't--God honest truth. I have been in the presence of other people partaking of the drug (I was first offered it when I was in the sixth grade), but have never sampled it myself.

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Re: Marajuana
« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2006, 08:28:50 pm »
Wouldn't it be easier to ask who hasn't?

I haven't--God honest truth. I have been in the presence of other people partaking of the drug (I was first offered it when I was in the sixth grade), but have never sampled it myself.

I was never into ilicit substances myself.   I prefer more natural highs but I tried it in college to see what all the fuss was about and just the smell alone was, and still is,  enough to trigger a migrane for me so no more pot for me ever.
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Re: Marajuana
« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2006, 09:13:11 pm »
I was never into ilicit substances myself.   I prefer more natural highs but I tried it in college to see what all the fuss was about and just the smell alone was, and still is,  enough to trigger a migrane for me so no more pot for me ever.
I actually find the smell pleasant (as I do that of smoky rooms and car interiors, though I can barely abide direct cigarette smoke itself [go figure]), but was sufficiently scared by parents, school, and media into staying away from any significantly mood- or mind-altering substances, and therefore have steered clear of them. I feel more emotionally vulnerable than the average person (with lots of challenges involving anxiety disorder and phobias), and don't want to fool around with anything that might psychically burden me even more. I have to concede, though, that the drug culture has helped to inspire some fantastic music, literature, and art (for example, The Velvet Underground, Hakim Bey, and Alex Grey, respectively), and has no doubt been part of the source of religious inspiration (note the references to soma in the Rig-veda)...the world would be a poorer place without some intrepid souls exploring this realm of pleasure and dissonance.

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Re: Marajuana
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2006, 09:13:23 pm »
IIRC, there *WAS* a thread about this on IMDB way back in the day...  It was called "Our boys smokin' a joint" or something like that....

I personally felt it fit in with the story and the time perfectly.  Made absolute sense to me.  

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Re: Marajuana
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2006, 09:45:02 pm »
I haven't--God honest truth. I have been in the presence of other people partaking of the drug (I was first offered it when I was in the sixth grade), but have never sampled it myself.

Me, neither. Hell, I've never even tried tobacco.

But back to Ennis and Jack and the joint in the story and the movie: I guess we really don't know that the time we see them smoke it is the first time--and they both seem so casual about it in the film that I suppose it isn't the first time.

As for the pot use seeming not to fit with their ages, maybe it's just another of Annie's anachronisms--like giving Alma, Jr., an age in May 1983 that doesn't square with her September 1964 birthdate. (Annie describes Alma, Jr., as "a shy seventeen-year-old" in 1983, but if she had been born in September 1964, she would have been 18-going-on-19.)
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