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Beans or sheep?
« on: April 04, 2006, 01:08:56 am »
This is partly because I wanted to experiment with making a poll.  And partly because I am curious to see how you all answer.

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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2006, 01:15:29 am »
I would not have stuck with beans.
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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2006, 06:06:00 am »
Sorry a sheep would have bit the dust!  No way I'm eating Elk ever again...

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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2006, 08:21:56 am »
I would've went with a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2006, 09:54:32 am »
I never eat with my mouth full!
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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2006, 05:47:57 pm »
I never eat with my mouth full!

Soooooo naughty! 

I'm a vegetarian all around, but I don't like baked beans even a little. 
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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2006, 10:26:39 pm »
I couldn't shoot any animal - I'm one of those people that doesn't even kill spiders in my house!  I "rescue" them and put them outside.  So, beans it is I guess.  :-[
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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2006, 02:06:12 am »
Voted for Beans...


vegetarian.........them sheep are me pals....

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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2006, 05:19:01 am »
I vote for 'other'. I wouldn't stick with only beans, but I wouldn't do any of that other stuff. I'm resourceful, I'd find other stuff to eat. I'm semi-vegetarian. I eat fish and poultry, so I'd try to catch some fish.. Would eat no elk, nor sheep.

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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2006, 05:38:54 am »
Dang....sorry...but I started drooolin over camp-fire lamb chops.   ;)
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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2006, 04:49:29 pm »
I grew up here in western NY on Grandma Brown's baked beans.  It is -the- brand for most people around here.  Not very Brokebacky, complete with the grandma on the label that looks straight out of 1960, but they are a good all around bean when you top it with bacon and lots of brown sugar.

I have little brand loyalty personally, so I've tried lots of different kinds since.  They all seem fairly good, but only one reminds me of growing up....  Grandma Brown.
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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2006, 12:49:34 am »
Phillip, thanks for the stroll down bean lane.  Leslie (lnicoll) wrote to us once that she is from the same town as B&M baked beans, which I remember from my childhood in NYC.

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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2006, 12:35:19 am »
Beans for me.  I agree with Ennis about beans... "Mmmmm".  I quite like beans.    ;D
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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2006, 03:24:08 pm »
Other... And not because I don't want trouble. I'm not too bothered about that. But because I'm with Nicole there: I couldn't kill an animal. I am a vegetarian too.
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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2006, 08:41:20 am »
I'd have voted for shooting one of the sheep, except I can't stand mutton.  So the elk was the best of both worlds.  As much as I love baked beans, no way I could eat them solely for a week if I didn't absolutely have to.
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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2006, 08:43:00 am »
I grew up here in western NY on Grandma Brown's baked beans.  It is -the- brand for most people around here.  Not very Brokebacky, complete with the grandma on the label that looks straight out of 1960, but they are a good all around bean when you top it with bacon and lots of brown sugar.

I have little brand loyalty personally, so I've tried lots of different kinds since.  They all seem fairly good, but only one reminds me of growing up....  Grandma Brown.

Hey, I remember those!  Can't find 'em anymore, at least not down in South Florida.  It's Bush's (ironically) for me, now.
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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2006, 05:58:20 pm »
I have found a solution for the vegetarians.
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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2006, 06:35:48 pm »
Wow, Ray!  How did you find that?

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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2006, 11:40:21 pm »
I'd have voted for shooting one of the sheep, except I can't stand mutton.  So the elk was the best of both worlds.  As much as I love baked beans, no way I could eat them solely for a week if I didn't absolutely have to.

I wholeheartedly  concur!   ::)  Mutton will do when I'm starving.
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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2006, 12:12:35 pm »
 :o :o :o Nooooo it has a wee face....cant eat anything with a face....

cure picture though

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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2006, 01:35:03 pm »
I'd let Ennis shoot the elk--I'm a hypocrite: I'm not a vegitarian, but I can't stand killing big stuff; it squishes. Besides, I LOVE venison! Almost as much as Brokeback...

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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2006, 01:54:03 pm »
If we were Ennis and Jack, that vegetarian nonsense (sorry) would not have even been on our radar.

We would have shot the elk, dried some of the meat, and roasted lots of it, like their famililes did. 

I would have been so proud to help my buddy Ennis clean up that animal after he did my bidding and got me something other than beans to eat.  I would still enjoy the beans at the right time, but nothing would ever taste as good as that Elk that my buddy got for me that summer of 1963.

I vote for venison - I think elk meat qualifies as venison too, am I right?

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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2006, 02:11:17 pm »
Dear, sweet TOAST:

They ate BEANS, didn't they? Whatdoyou mean, nothing vegitable on their radar? That's what Jack was comnplaining about!

I don't mind cooking the elk; I just don't want to kill it--which is why I said i was a hypocrite...

You dion't have to get all huffy about it...

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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2006, 12:50:57 pm »

I have found a solution for the vegetarians.


Ray -

This is GREAT!  Assume you just break off the cauliflower flowers and leave the sheep intact?  How do you keep them from snacking on themselves?!  I think I'm going to steal this image if you don't mind!



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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2006, 02:37:21 pm »
But THAT sheep is all white, and fluffy--not like the ones of BBM. I would love that one...
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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2006, 02:26:50 pm »
Huffy?  Moi?

Now Julie you and I  are in agreement here.
we dont want to kiil itl, but we both will enjoy the meat.
face it, Ennis and Jack ate vegs, but I bet their characters would not know what a vegetarian was, back in 1963.
I really enjoy beans, canned too, on the right day, but I like a choice.
If Enis had a steak to stick in that frying pan, I would be so happy to peel potatoes to go with it.
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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2006, 08:41:47 pm »
I'd opt for beans, and here are some reasons why: I'm a wimp, and would never stir up trouble intentionally--couldn't fathom killing one of the animals that had been entrusted to my care. Secondly, I rather like beans, and could definitely get through a week, say, subsisting on them. Third, even though I eat meat, I (somewhat hypocritically) would much prefer to let someone else kill my animals for me. Fourth, I'm not a picky eater, and will generally content myself with what is at hand (very unlike Jack in this regard).

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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2006, 11:11:00 pm »
I opted to stick with beans, because they were entrusted with the care of the sheep.

But I do think hunting and shooting that elk was a real manly alternative. ...

And anyway, they got a food delivery every week.
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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2006, 03:29:14 pm »
I vote sheep.  Heck, there're a thousand of them.  Aguirre wouldn't have missed one.  They're bound for the dinner table anyway - unlike an elk - beautiful wild animal that was living in supposed protected grounds.

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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2006, 05:34:10 pm »
Beans. Definately beans. Heck I could have just lived on love.  ::)
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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2006, 06:38:45 pm »
Wow, Ray!  How did you find that?

Hi Elle & C.  It's one of a collection.  Pretty clever.  Will I email you the set?  And anyone else who is interested.  Perhaps you would have me put them on here?
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« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2006, 03:01:01 am »
Wow, Ray!  How did you find that?

Hi Elle & C.  It's one of a collection.  Pretty clever.  Will I email you the set?  And anyone else who is interested.  Perhaps you would have me put them on here?

Sure!

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« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2006, 03:06:46 am »
What do you mean "SURE!" L M N O?!  I sent them to you via Email ages ago.  Do you never read your Emails? 
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« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2006, 03:07:54 am »
I'm waiting!
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« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2006, 03:10:11 am »
Well?
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« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2006, 03:11:39 am »
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« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2006, 03:12:40 am »
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« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2006, 03:13:57 am »
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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2006, 12:14:54 pm »
Strawberry Snake is awesome, Ray. If I ate strawberries (I'm allergic), I'd certainly look twice!   :o

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« Reply #39 on: April 29, 2006, 03:29:05 pm »
In the movie, Ennis was actually satisfied with eating beans because he was not much of a cook. But, as to how much Annie Proulx's Ennis Del Mar liked beans, that would have to be a guess. (There is one kind of beans which I don't like and they are called "Blackeyed Peas." I tolerated them growing up when we were so poor that we had to eat them.)

Joe Aguirre would not have been able to prove that they had slaughtered/butchered a sheep if he didn't see them do it. And, it would have saved ammunition if they killed the sheep using a knife.

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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #40 on: May 02, 2006, 06:08:25 pm »
Eating all those beans night and day could of turned out to be really embarrassing,... concidering the situation.  Oh don't give me that innocent look, you know what I'm talking about!
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« Reply #41 on: May 04, 2006, 12:52:33 pm »
It was quite fun to see the Movie Ennis enjoying beans EVERYTIME that he was eating them. For normal diets, one needs a little meat protein to go with vegetable protein.

But, when I was in dire straits financially, I ate mostly beans which I cooked myself. The Licensed Practical Nurse and the RN at the VA Out Patient Clinic here in Tulsa, Oklahoma, told me that when I had beans, I should also mix rice with them and that would help with the lack of meat protein. I had never heard of that; but, I do like beans and rice together as a dish.

There are a couple of Biblical Proverbs which are somewhat related to this discussion, "Don't muzzle the ox who threshes the wheat" and "The worker deserves his wages."

In the "ox" proverb, the slaughter and eating a sheep when the food supply was low would fit that category with the guys being the "oxen" and the sheep being the "wheat."

While the movie implies that the boys were being paid a monthly wage, nothing about that is in the book. Aguirre might have just contracted to pay a certain wage for the whole late spring and summer season or so much per month or per day.

A certain percentage loss of livestock, aka the sheep, was expected due to the occasional extreme weather conditions up on the mountain. The sheep which scattered during the movie hail storm was not the fault of Ennis at all. The Chilean shepherds were doing the same illegal thing with their sheep as was being done with Aguirre's sheep or they would not have gotten mixed up together, IMO. Aguirre's sheep were not pastured where they were assigned to be by the Forest Service.

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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #42 on: May 05, 2006, 07:02:57 pm »
What do you mean "SURE!" L M N O?!  I sent them to you via Email ages ago.  Do you never read your Emails? 

Hunh?  I'll go look now - AND I only just saw this now.  I'm sorry, Ray.  Off I go to look for vegenimals in my email.

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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2006, 03:33:29 am »
Am I understanding this question correctly?

if so, I picked "I'll explain below"

I  can't imagine myself shooting an animal, but beans tend to... well... you know...

Is a steak an option? :)
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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2006, 11:25:48 pm »
Is a steak an option? :)

Nope, sorry.  But elk is!  When I answered this poll way back when... I was thinking along the same lines that you were.  I like beans (in real life) and I wouldn't want to kill an animal either.

But upon further consideration of this topic, I think the idea here is that if you choose beans like Ennis you feel compelled to play by the rules or you feel a sense of duty to the rules.  If you have the urge to eat a sheep like Jack, it means you're reckless and willing to break the rules.  Elk is a compromise... it's still breaking the rules (poaching) but it's less of an infringement than killing a sheep, which they're supposed to be protecting.  I think there are other major reasons why they can't kill a sheep (and certainly Jack can't kill a sheep either) within the logic of the movie... but that's a topic for another day/ thread.
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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #45 on: June 19, 2006, 11:55:02 pm »
Well... I guess I would have to choose the beans then.

I do bend the rules every once in awhile.

I guess beans, with a side of elk on a rare occasion. ;)
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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2006, 02:35:37 am »
Beans ......it is far easier to open a can, than to skin a bloody sheep
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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #47 on: July 21, 2006, 02:52:59 pm »
I choose 'other'.  I would do a little fishing.
I like beans but can't live on beans for 2 months.  Sheeps?  Yuck!  Elk?  Never have, maybe never will.

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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #48 on: March 26, 2008, 10:39:44 pm »

Bump!  Because this was a fun poll!  And, I'm in a beany mood! 8)




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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #49 on: March 27, 2008, 12:33:50 am »
i picked elk.  my friend hunted one last season (thank god i didn't actually see it), but we barbequed up some elk stakes last week from his frozen meat, and holy, was it good.  very lean meat.  just like stake, but leaner.  very tasty, so, although i don't hunt, i eat.  lol

not sure i'd be able to eat it after gutting it though.  eeewww

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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #50 on: March 28, 2008, 12:46:44 am »
beans and a bus ticket back home.

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Re: Beans or sheep?
« Reply #51 on: March 28, 2008, 07:49:23 am »

I'll stick with the beans.  8)
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