Author Topic: Brokeback Mountain on Oprah (Read 21904 times)

mvansand76 · « **on:** October 06, 2006, 02:29:31 pm »

Does anybody know where I can find that episode of Oprah with the cast of BBM on the internet? I can't find it on youtube or yahoo, because they always take it off!

Mikaela · « **Reply #1 on:** October 06, 2006, 02:48:17 pm »

IHeartJake has it. here's the link. Scroll down towards the end of that page.

mvansand76 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 06, 2006, 03:21:39 pm »

Thanks!

HerrKaiser · « **Reply #3 on:** October 27, 2006, 07:52:27 pm »

Oprah embraced the cast and film nicely. But, I remain very bitter about her nearly single handedly pushing and campaigning for the Academy to vote "Crash" as best film. To me, it was a near-unforgiveable slap, and exposed a side of Oprah that was an unpleasant discovery.

David In Indy · « **Reply #4 on:** October 28, 2006, 03:26:15 pm »

Quote from: HerrKaiser on October 27, 2006, 07:52:27 pm

Oprah embraced the cast and film nicely. But, I remain very bitter about her nearly single handedly pushing and campaigning for the Academy to vote "Crash" as best film. To me, it was a near-unforgiveable slap, and exposed a side of Oprah that was an unpleasant discovery.

Well, at least you had a chance to see it. I missed it the first time around, and when they aired it the second time, our local station decided to replace it with a sporting event.

Good old Indiana.

starboardlight · « **Reply #5 on:** October 30, 2006, 03:21:30 am »

Quote from: HerrKaiser on October 27, 2006, 07:52:27 pm

Oprah embraced the cast and film nicely. But, I remain very bitter about her nearly single handedly pushing and campaigning for the Academy to vote "Crash" as best film. To me, it was a near-unforgiveable slap, and exposed a side of Oprah that was an unpleasant discovery.

I don't know if I'd say she embraced the film. Some of her questions were made it clear that she either didn't get it or she didn't watch the film to begin with. That was the impression I got from her during that showing anyway.

mvansand76 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 30, 2006, 08:37:39 am »

I thought her questions about the movie were pretty silly (the usual....soooooooo boyssssss....tell us about the kissssss) and very superficial... I didn't like the interview, but the boys did make up for that by being cute.

HerrKaiser · « **Reply #7 on:** October 30, 2006, 11:30:35 am »

I agree, the interview was typical Oprah.

Curiously, why do so many refer to Ennis and Jack as "the boys"; and their being "cute" to me deflates them to children-ish level...needing coddling and sort of unable to handle their lives; somehow deficient which is how so many people think about gay men. To me, the spirit of each man and that of the film as well as the larger gay arena should grant them the status of "the men". Just my opinion! thanks!

mvansand76 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 30, 2006, 11:35:58 am »

I was referring to Jake and Heath and them being so cute and gracious in answering the questions that millions of reporters had already asked them millions of times before they appeared on the Oprah show.

HerrKaiser · « **Reply #9 on:** October 30, 2006, 11:43:55 am »

yes, I know. That was what I had referred to. thanks!

ednbarby · « **Reply #10 on:** October 30, 2006, 01:23:48 pm »

I think Oprah is an idiot. I've thought so for a long time, and this show just proved it all the more to me. I agree that the "questions" she asked showed that she either a.) didn't get the film or b.) didn't watch it. I'm leaning towards the former. Anyone who can say it didn't occur to them that Lureen knew who Ennis was when he said "Me and Jack herded sheep up on Brokeback in the summer of '63" missed one helluva good movie.

And I agree, too, that the cast were quite gracious, all things considered. I especially enjoyed Jake's "What're ya gettin' at?" when she kept pressing the kiss thing. Heath was particularly lovely, I thought.

And yes, campaigning for a movie to win the Best Picture Oscar when you are not a paid representative of that movie's production company is flat out wrong. I don't care if you're Jesus Christ (and God knows she thinks she is).

HerrKaiser · « **Reply #11 on:** October 30, 2006, 01:33:06 pm »

Quote from: ednbarby on October 30, 2006, 01:23:48 pm

I think Oprah is an idiot. I've thought so for a long time, and this show just proved it all the more to me. I agree that the "questions" she asked showed that she either a.) didn't get the film or b.) didn't watch it. I'm leaning towards the former. Anyone who can say it didn't occur to them that Lureen knew who Ennis was when he said "Me and Jack herded sheep up on Brokeback in the summer of '63" missed one helluva good movie.

And I agree, too, that the cast were quite gracious, all things considered. I especially enjoyed Jake's "What're ya gettin' at?" when she kept pressing the kiss thing. Heath was particularly lovely, I thought.

And yes, campaigning for a movie to win the Best Picture Oscar when you are not a paid representative of that movie's production company is flat out wrong. I don't care if you're Jesus Christ (and God knows she thinks she is).

AMEN BABY!

Shakesthecoffecan · « **Reply #12 on:** October 30, 2006, 01:59:36 pm »

Yeah ednbarby that makes me think of the interview the McMurtry and Ossana gave, he says when Ennis goes tothe Twist's house it becomes a great movie, I think when he calls Lureen it becomes great, the account have to start being paid at that point.

Sorry to get off on a tangent.

David In Indy · « **Reply #13 on:** October 30, 2006, 02:01:41 pm »

Quote from: HerrKaiser on October 30, 2006, 11:30:35 am

I agree, the interview was typical Oprah.

Curiously, why do so many refer to Ennis and Jack as "the boys"; and their being "cute" to me deflates them to children-ish level...needing coddling and sort of unable to handle their lives; somehow deficient which is how so many people think about gay men. To me, the spirit of each man and that of the film as well as the larger gay arena should grant them the status of "the men". Just my opinion! thanks!

I don't see anything wrong with referring to Jack and Ennis as "the boys". I do it all the time, and I'm gay. Let's face it, when they first met each other in 1963, they were still teenagers.... boys.

I think most people say it because they feel affection for the boys. They certainly don't say it to demean or ridicule gay people. If it was demeaning, why in the world would I say it?

Meryl · « **Reply #14 on:** October 30, 2006, 02:14:00 pm »

Quote from: HerrKaiser on October 30, 2006, 11:30:35 am

Curiously, why do so many refer to Ennis and Jack as "the boys"; and their being "cute" to me deflates them to children-ish level...needing coddling and sort of unable to handle their lives; somehow deficient which is how so many people think about gay men. To me, the spirit of each man and that of the film as well as the larger gay arena should grant them the status of "the men". Just my opinion! thanks!

I know what you mean, but I've seen Annie herself refer to Ennis and Jack as "the boys" from time to time, at least when speaking about their days on the mountain. On this site, depending on the context, I mostly see the term as affectionate.

Quote from: ednbarby on October 30, 2006, 01:23:48 pm

I don't care if you're Jesus Christ (and God knows she thinks she is).

Y'get yer point across, Barb.

Shakesthecoffecan · « **Reply #15 on:** October 30, 2006, 03:06:07 pm »

In the collection "Boys Like Us" Allen Gurganius (author of Last Surviving Confederate Widow Tells All) speaks of the buy term. In his small town in North Carolina, the librarian and florist and their friends were refered to as "The Boys", which he didn't perceive maliciously, but it seemed to him like the towns people were saying they were less than men.

But yeah, Jack and Ennis will always be my boys.

HerrKaiser · « **Reply #16 on:** October 30, 2006, 03:49:29 pm »

Quote from: David925 on October 30, 2006, 02:01:41 pm

If it was demeaning, why in the world would I say it?

Don't know. Often, terms used and words spoken are viewed as demeaning or offensive by others than those who speak them. That's why we have political correctness.

David In Indy · « **Reply #17 on:** November 02, 2006, 12:19:06 am »

Quote from: HerrKaiser on October 30, 2006, 03:49:29 pm

Don't know. Often, terms used and words spoken are viewed as demeaning or offensive by others than those who speak them. That's why we have political correctness.

Bullshit. How can I be politically incorrect towards myself or my orientation?

mvansand76 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 02, 2006, 07:29:31 am »

Quote from: David925 on November 02, 2006, 12:19:06 am

Bullshit. How can I be politically incorrect towards myself or my orientation?

I completely agree... let's go back and see where this discussion started... calling them 'the boys', now how did we get from that innocent phrasing to a serious subject such as political correctness?

Katie77 · « **Reply #19 on:** November 02, 2006, 07:52:24 am »

Calling Jack and Ennis "the boys",is definately a term of affection, and is not meant as demeaning or childish towards them....

When I say "the boys", thats all I need to say, everyone on here knows who I mean.....I think it makes them feel like family......

I still refer to my two sons as "the boys", and they are 35 and 31 yrs old......

HerrKaiser · « **Reply #20 on:** November 02, 2006, 12:15:31 pm »

your sons are family, true, and families have may have a variety of terms of endearment.

Calling Ennis and Jack "the boys" or "family" fictionalizes them, I think, tends to reduce their individualism, separates them from reality, and categorizes them a eternal kids. The major part of the story/film/relationship was a grown, mature men, and in fact, the essence of the work is about maturing, growth, and manhood.

mvansand76 · « **Reply #21 on:** November 02, 2006, 12:26:20 pm »

I have no idea what this discussion is about anymore.

Seaweed727 · « **Reply #22 on:** November 02, 2006, 01:07:42 pm »

I believe in this community, and on this forum, referring to Jack and Ennis as "the boys" is, as David says, a familiar and endearing term. In speaking about the movie and these characters in another forum I might choose to use more general terms.

But, getting back on the topic of Oprah's Show with Heath, Jake, Michelle and Anne. I agree with ednbarby in saying "Anyone who can say it didn't occur to them that Lureen knew who Ennis was when he said "Me and Jack herded sheep up on Brokeback in the summer of '63" missed one helluva good movie. Oprah was content to demonstrate with her silly questioning that she did not understand Brokeback Mountain. What I got out of the show was the tremendous opportunity to see these fine actors as they dealt with the stupid questions and yet demonstrated a level of maturity and professionalism beyond their years. The appearance made me fall even more in love with the actors who gave so much life to the characters in Brokeback Mountain.

Penthesilea · « **Reply #23 on:** November 02, 2006, 01:56:27 pm »

Quote from: Seaweed727 on November 02, 2006, 01:07:42 pm

What I got out of the show was the tremendous opportunity to see these fine actors as they dealt with the stupid questions and yet demonstrated a level of maturity and professionalism beyond their years. The appearance made me fall even more in love with the actors who gave so much life to the characters in Brokeback Mountain.

Amen to that! Very well put.

mvansand76 · « **Reply #24 on:** November 02, 2006, 02:55:36 pm »

Quote from: Seaweed727 on November 02, 2006, 01:07:42 pm

Oprah was content to demonstrate with her silly questioning that she did not understand Brokeback Mountain. What I got out of the show was the tremendous opportunity to see these fine actors as they dealt with the stupid questions and yet demonstrated a level of maturity and professionalism beyond their years.

Exactly! The boys rule!

mvansand76 · « **Reply #25 on:** November 02, 2006, 03:01:44 pm »

Oh and the girls too of course!!!

ednbarby · « **Reply #26 on:** November 02, 2006, 04:40:03 pm »

And I agree with you, Seaweed. Wholeheartedly. I actually fell in love with Jake when I saw him on Leno prior to that appearance for the very same reason you put so well. He just sealed the deal on Oprah, at the precise point in which he said "What're you gettin' at?" He was also particularly gracious in saying how he defers all compliments to Heath. There's none of that competitive bullshit with him. I doubt you'd hear Matt Damon say that about Leonardo DiCaprio in The Departed or any other actor with basically equal billing about his colleague in any other movie. Sure, they'll praise other actors for their performances, but not like that.

It also sealed the deal on my impression of Oprah. To say that she isn't the sharpest tool in the shed doesn't even begin to cover it. It makes me almost ill to think of the influence she has over so many people in this country. But then, we are Idiot America. And she's our queen.

Katie77 · « **Reply #27 on:** November 02, 2006, 05:03:02 pm »

I remember seeing that Oprah show, and while it was great to see the cast, I did too feel that Oprah's questions were downrigh silly....I got the impression she was trying to embarrass the boys with some of her questions...but, in true professional style, they stood up to the task, and didnt let her bother them....

jpwagoneer1964 · « **Reply #28 on:** November 02, 2006, 05:13:43 pm »

I got to see my favorite cousin from New York last weekend she is very much into movies. She didn't especially like it, thought it was depressing, but that it was important. I guess my point is that after having seen Oprah I thoungt here questions were resonable given the context of the the show and that she is not a Brokie like us. Interesting the Jake said that neither might have dione the movie if they had known it would be so big, too intimidating.

Katie77 · « **Reply #29 on:** November 02, 2006, 05:15:55 pm »

Quote from: jpwagoneer1964 on November 02, 2006, 05:13:43 pm

Interesting the Kake said that neither might have dione the movie if they had known it would be so big, too intimidating.

Who said that?

?

ednbarby · « **Reply #30 on:** November 02, 2006, 05:53:46 pm »

Quote from: Katie77 on November 02, 2006, 05:15:55 pm

Who said that??

Jake said that on Oprah. Not in exactly those words. I think he was saying that had they known it would be such a cultural phenomenon, they might not have done it. Which is not to say they regretted doing it - they just may have seen it as a more daunting task from the beginning.

And I don't think Oprah's questions were good in any context. But then I think she asks idiotic questions about everything, so I'm not the most objective person in the world when it comes to her. I will say that the question that annoyed me the most (and that's saying a lot) was the one about their relationship with each other after they were both married being "conflicting" and the way she emphasized that word.

To me, if all you see in this movie is a couple of guys having an illicit affair and hurting their wives and families in the process, you've totally missed the boat. And to me, that's all she saw.

HerrKaiser · « **Reply #31 on:** November 02, 2006, 06:07:38 pm »

Quote from: ednbarby on November 02, 2006, 05:53:46 pm

To me, if all you see in this movie is a couple of guys having an illicit affair and hurting their wives and families in the process, you've totally missed the boat. And to me, that's all she saw.

True enough. Oprah is simply way too busy to be any more than extremely superficial on most subjects she covers. Planning daily shows is daunting and she is just very, very topline; no depth or true 'getting into the meat' of it; even though BBM should not have required a course to 'get it'! A good friend of mine is a good friend of hers, and that is how she apparently has to be for her particular business situation. too bad since for the BBM segment, it really could have been much better.

Sheriff Roland · « **Reply #32 on:** November 02, 2006, 06:08:52 pm »

Quote from: Katie77 on November 02, 2006, 05:15:55 pm

Who said that??

Jake did - somebody's having trouble typing - like that never happens to the rest of us boys (right David & Bill(seaweed)?)

injest · « **Reply #33 on:** November 02, 2006, 08:19:52 pm »

Quote from: Roland on November 02, 2006, 06:08:52 pm

Jake did - somebody's having trouble typing - like that never happens to the rest of us boys (right David & Bill(seaweed)?)

no I think you did ok with THIS particular post....now all the other posts you have made...... $:-\$

Katie77 · « **Reply #34 on:** November 02, 2006, 09:35:53 pm »

I wasnt being critical of your spelling or your post.....I really did think you meant to write "Kake", and I wondered who the hell that was..

Its been a while since I saw the tape of that Oprah show, so cant remember all the text, I just remember, that I didnt much like the way Oprah pressed embarrassing questions at them.

jpwagoneer1964 · « **Reply #35 on:** November 02, 2006, 09:45:48 pm »

Quote from: Katie77 on November 02, 2006, 09:35:53 pm

I wasnt being critical of your spelling or your post.....I really did think you meant to write "Kake", and I wondered who the hell that was..

Its been a while since I saw the tape of that Oprah show, so cant remember all the text, I just remember, that I didnt much like the way Oprah pressed embarrassing questions at them.

Hi Katie
I was the one that wrote Kake, cant type worth s****. I thought the Opral show, taken in the context it was presented was positive and not meant to reslove any deep questions. All the actors were in every way supportive of the film.

Katie77 · « **Reply #36 on:** November 02, 2006, 09:50:24 pm »

yaeh......i mkae spllellign eorros two.....we aill dooooo.....

David In Indy · « **Reply #37 on:** November 03, 2006, 12:08:04 am »

Quote from: Katie77 on November 02, 2006, 09:35:53 pm

I wasnt being critical of your spelling or your post.....I really did think you meant to write "Kake", and I wondered who the hell that was..

What the hell does it mean? I'm not entirely sure either Sue.

It's a television station isn't it?

Or does it mean something else?

God. What the hell does it mean?

Sheriff Roland · « **Reply #38 on:** November 03, 2006, 12:14:18 am »

Quote from: David925 on November 03, 2006, 12:08:04 am

What the hell does it mean? I'm not entirely sure either Sue.

It's a television station isn't it?

Or does it mean something else?

God. What the hell does it mean?

Ah C'mon David - It's just a small typo the"J" of Jake is right there next to the "K" of Kake on your keyboard - He intended the word Jake - just a small typo (It's not like we're on a Tom of Finland site here, you know (HAHA))

David In Indy · « **Reply #39 on:** November 03, 2006, 12:19:44 am »

Quote from: mvansand76 on November 02, 2006, 07:29:31 am

I completely agree... let's go back and see where this discussion started... calling them 'the boys', now how did we get from that innocent phrasing to a serious subject such as political correctness?

It's even worse than that Melissa. This thread started by you innocently asking where on the Internet you could find a copy of the "Oprah" show.

These threads sometimes remind me of that "telephone" game. You know the game, don't you? One person will whisper something into the next person's ear; something like "President Bush is an idiot" and by the time it gets to the last person in the line it has changed to something completely different, like "Your dog needs a bath".

It certainly keeps things interesting. But it's very weird.

David In Indy · « **Reply #40 on:** November 03, 2006, 12:21:48 am »

Quote from: Roland on November 03, 2006, 12:14:18 am

Ah C'mon David - It's just a small typo the"J" of Jake is right there next to the "K" of Kake on your keyboard - He intended the word Jake - just a small typo (It's not like we're on a Tom of Finland site here, you know (HAHA))

Roland! Hey, I live in Indiana. We ain't too good at cipherin' around here.

Thanks for the info. I really did think he was talking about a television station. <blush>

David In Indy · « **Reply #41 on:** November 03, 2006, 12:27:59 am »

God. I just went back and reread what he said.

What was I thinking?

My mother always said I should "think before I talk"... or in this case "think before I type".

Geez, how embarrassing.

mvansand76 · « **Reply #42 on:** November 03, 2006, 07:55:45 am »

Quote from: David925 on November 03, 2006, 12:19:44 am

It's even worse than that Melissa. This thread started by you innocently asking where on the Internet you could find a copy of the "Oprah" show.

These threads sometimes remind me of that "telephone" game. You know the game, don't you? One person will whisper something into the next person's ear; something like "President Bush is an idiot" and by the time it gets to the last person in the line it has changed to something completely different, like "Your dog needs a bath".

It certainly keeps things interesting. But it's very weird.

Oh god, I was just thinking that this might have become that kind of thread!

The Thread of Misunderstandings and Political Incorrectness. Let's change the Topic name.

Seaweed727 · « **Reply #43 on:** November 03, 2006, 01:31:34 pm »

Quote from: ednbarby on November 02, 2006, 04:40:03 pm

And I agree with you, Seaweed. Wholeheartedly. I actually fell in love with Jake when I saw him on Leno prior to that appearance for the very same reason you put so well. He just sealed the deal on Oprah, at the precise point in which he said "What're you gettin' at?" He was also particularly gracious in saying how he defers all compliments to Heath. There's none of that competitive bullshit with him. I doubt you'd hear Matt Damon say that about Leonardo DiCaprio in The Departed or any other actor with basically equal billing about his colleague in any other movie. Sure, they'll praise other actors for their performances, but not like that.

My God ednbarby great minds think alike ! Ha.

It has always been my position with regards to Jake and Heath; both so very different in the way they deal with their interviews (Jake so comfortable and warm, with Heath very humble and uncomfortable) that they are both so well spoken or downright honest in their responses. I absolutely love Jake's interview on Leno and his kibitzing with Ellen Degeneres, he wins me over each and every time. The same goes for Heath, you can literally feel his level of discomfort, let alone see it, then he just blows you away with his very humble approach to life and what he believes to be important. And to echo your comment on the lack of competetive B.S. from Jake, I recall Heath's comments from the Brokeback DVD (the Logo special I believe)... where he comments on the lack of competetiveness in Jake, and the fact that he is there to help everyone else. I couldn't possibly be more in awe of two fine actors I've come to love as individuals and in particular as Jack and Ennis.

ednbarby · « **Reply #44 on:** November 03, 2006, 02:14:11 pm »

Yes, they're both such lovely young men each in his own way, aren't they?

It's funny - I find my intensely passionate crush on Jake is fading in the last couple of weeks. It was inevitable - I think I needed the idea of him to give me something I was missing in my life at the time and now I don't need whatever that was anymore. I'm sad in a way because it was a very enjoyable crush to have (I have quite a vivid imagination when I really set my mind to it). But I still adore him - just in a more platonic way, now. And Heath, too. Again, what you said about him is right on the money. He's so uncomfortable in his own skin, and you can just feel his discomfort when you watch him in an interview. But he's so humble and lovable and profound, too. I find it interesting that he seemed much more comfortable when Jake was there with him on Oprah, or perhaps it was the knowledge that Michelle would be joining him, too? I think he's someone, very much like me, who isn't good at being the center of attention and is greatly relieved when someone else with him is.

Seaweed727 · « **Reply #45 on:** November 04, 2006, 05:07:25 pm »

ednbarby,

I find it interesting that he seemed much more comfortable when Jake was there with him on Oprah, or perhaps it was the knowledge that Michelle would be joining him, too?

Good observation, and I'm sure a common one. Notice how Jake consistantly included Heath in all of the exchanges with Oprah, waiting for Heath's response, kind of encouraging it, and not just grabbing all the attention, which he could have done knowing how reserved Heath can be. Jake strikes me as a bit of a care-taker, very sensitive to other people's feelings, and another reason why he may have been so believable as Jack Twist.

And as you say, Heath is so "humble, loveable, and profound when he gets around to letting it all out.

Too bad Oprah isn't into doing in-depth stuff, could you imagine a comprehensive hour or two on Brokeback Mountain including topic's from the making of the movie to the cast, crew, awards, response on the internet and all that navel gazing?

ednbarby · « **Reply #46 on:** November 04, 2006, 07:08:13 pm »

Quote from: Seaweed727 on November 04, 2006, 05:07:25 pm

Notice how Jake consistantly included Heath in all of the exchanges with Oprah, waiting for Heath's response, kind of encouraging it, and not just grabbing all the attention, which he could have done knowing how reserved Heath can be. Jake strikes me as a bit of a care-taker, very sensitive to other people's feelings, and another reason why he may have been so believable as Jack Twist.

... could you imagine a comprehensive hour or two on Brokeback Mountain including topic's from the making of the movie to the cast, crew, awards, response on the internet and all that navel gazing?

Oh, yes, I noticed that. He's a lovely, lovely man. Definitely sensitive and care-taking, and also generous, which I guess goes hand in hand with those other things. I listened to an audio interview of him a couple times that was done backstage after he won the BAFTA, and he said something that struck me as possibly the most generous thing I've ever heard someone say. Someone asked something like how he feels about being such an object of adoration - about the fans that idolize him and fantasize about him, etc. And he said something to the effect of "If I can provide something that someone needs like that, I'm glad to be able to do it."

Wow.

And yes, wouldn't a show like that be The Shit. Charlie Rose or IAS, perhaps?

Meryl · « **Reply #47 on:** November 04, 2006, 07:55:19 pm »

Quote from: Seaweed727 on November 04, 2006, 05:07:25 pm

Too bad Oprah isn't into doing in-depth stuff, could you imagine a comprehensive hour or two on Brokeback Mountain including topic's from the making of the movie to the cast, crew, awards, response on the internet and all that navel gazing?

I remember being astonished that she only devoted half of her show to BBM. Here she had the young, hot cast of any talk show host's dreams, and she chose to devote the second half to an actor who dressed up in drag to play somebody's aunt or something. I truly think she was scared to death of the subject and didn't want to spend a lot of time on it.

ednbarby · « **Reply #48 on:** November 05, 2006, 10:37:28 pm »

Quote from: Meryl on November 04, 2006, 07:55:19 pm

I truly think she was scared to death of the subject and didn't want to spend a lot of time on it.

Excellent call. I'd say that was exactly the reason she did that.

Br. Patrick · « **Reply #49 on:** November 11, 2006, 05:51:03 pm »

Quote from: Katie77 on November 02, 2006, 05:03:02 pm

I remember seeing that Oprah show, and while it was great to see the cast, I did too feel that Oprah's questions were downrigh silly....I got the impression she was trying to embarrass the boys with some of her questions...but, in true professional style, they stood up to the task, and didnt let her bother them....

I caught about the last 15 minutes of it the day that it was on. I remember Oprah asking Anne Hathaway if her character KNEW what went on all those times Jack drove up to Wyoming two, three times a year. Anne Hathaway looked simply stunned and said something to the effect of "couldn't you TELL?" When Oprah said No, Anne Hathaway kind of freaked out saying over and over, something to the effect of 'O my God, I DISSED Oprah" It was a question that had been on my mind as well and on my 8th viewing, when Ennis tells Lurreen that Brokeback Mountain was a real place, her voice cracks ever so quietly and something of a tear appears in her eye. I didn't see that at all for a long time. So I'm really glad that I tuned in when I did. Somthin' I calls Divine Providence!

Ellemeno · « **Reply #50 on:** November 12, 2006, 12:14:08 pm »

Hi Everyone,

I have seen the Oprah BBM show twice, neither time recently. But I remember being so annoyed with her reaction. Didn't she show great astonishment that men like the Ennis and Jack characters could be gay? I think she marvelled something like, "And not a lisp or a swish between them!" That she would perpetuate a stereotype out loud like that was very offensive to me. I agree with what's been said here about how well Heath and Jake and Anne and Michelle handled it.

As for calling them 'the boys,' my only disagreement is over the spelling - I feel much more comfortable with the appropriately proper-nouned Our Boys.

I try to use that appelation for Ennis and Jack only, not Heath and Jake the real people.

Br. Patrick · « **Reply #51 on:** November 12, 2006, 02:35:09 pm »

Quote from: Ellemeno on November 12, 2006, 12:14:08 pm

I have seen the Oprah BBM show twice, neither time recently. But I remember being so annoyed with her reaction. Didn't she show great astonishment that men like the Ennis and Jack characters could be gay? I think she marvelled something like, "And not a lisp or a swish between them!" That she would perpetuate a stereotype out loud like that was very offensive to me. I agree with what's been said here about how well Heath and Jake and Anne and Michelle handled it.

I downloaded the show from the link above. I couldn't believe the way she treated OUR BOYS. Limp wrists and swishing indeed. She just missed the whole point. Heath and Jake handled it Very Well!

ednbarby · « **Reply #52 on:** November 12, 2006, 03:05:56 pm »

Quote from: Br. Patrick on November 12, 2006, 02:35:09 pm

I downloaded the show from the link above. I couldn't believe the way she treated OUR BOYS. Limp wrists and swishing indeed. She just missed the whole point. Heath and Jake handled it Very Well!

Yep. She just sank the nail into her own coffin for me on that one and proved what I'd known for a long time. Idiot. And Heath and Jake and Michelle and Anne just made me adore all four of them more.

Artiste · « **Reply #53 on:** December 21, 2008, 05:22:46 pm »

Any video link(s) on Oprah and Brokeback Mountain still working?

Front-Ranger · « **Reply #54 on:** December 21, 2008, 06:13:50 pm »

Quote from: Mikaela on October 06, 2006, 02:48:17 pm

IHeartJake has it. here's the link. Scroll down towards the end of that page.

Yes, this link provided by Mikaela still seems to be working.

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