Brokeback Mountain on Oprah

[ednbarby]

I think Oprah is an idiot.  I've thought so for a long time, and this show just proved it all the more to me.  I agree that the "questions" she asked showed that she either a.) didn't get the film or b.) didn't watch it.  I'm leaning towards the former.  Anyone who can say it didn't occur to them that Lureen knew who Ennis was when he said "Me and Jack herded sheep up on Brokeback in the summer of '63" missed one helluva good movie.

And I agree, too, that the cast were quite gracious, all things considered.  I especially enjoyed Jake's "What're ya gettin' at?" when she kept pressing the kiss thing.  Heath was particularly lovely, I thought.

And yes, campaigning for a movie to win the Best Picture Oscar when you are not a paid representative of that movie's production company is flat out wrong.  I don't care if you're Jesus Christ (and God knows she thinks she is).

[HerrKaiser]

I think Oprah is an idiot.  I've thought so for a long time, and this show just proved it all the more to me.  I agree that the "questions" she asked showed that she either a.) didn't get the film or b.) didn't watch it.  I'm leaning towards the former.  Anyone who can say it didn't occur to them that Lureen knew who Ennis was when he said "Me and Jack herded sheep up on Brokeback in the summer of '63" missed one helluva good movie.

And I agree, too, that the cast were quite gracious, all things considered.  I especially enjoyed Jake's "What're ya gettin' at?" when she kept pressing the kiss thing.  Heath was particularly lovely, I thought.

And yes, campaigning for a movie to win the Best Picture Oscar when you are not a paid representative of that movie's production company is flat out wrong.  I don't care if you're Jesus Christ (and God knows she thinks she is).

AMEN BABY!

[Shakesthecoffecan]

Yeah ednbarby that makes me think of the interview the McMurtry and Ossana gave, he says when Ennis goes tothe Twist's house it becomes a great movie, I think when he calls Lureen it becomes great, the account have to start being paid at that point.

Sorry to get off on a tangent.

[David In Indy]

I agree, the interview was typical Oprah.

Curiously, why do so many refer to Ennis and Jack as "the boys"; and their being "cute" to me deflates them to children-ish level...needing coddling and sort of unable to handle their lives; somehow deficient which is how so many people think about gay men. To me, the spirit of each man and that of the film as well as the larger gay arena should grant them the status of "the men". Just my opinion! thanks!

I don't see anything wrong with referring to Jack and Ennis as "the boys". I do it all the time, and I'm gay. Let's face it, when they first met each other in 1963, they were still teenagers.... boys.

I think most people say it because they feel affection for the boys.  They certainly don't say it to demean or ridicule gay people. If it was demeaning, why in the world would I say it?

[Meryl]

Curiously, why do so many refer to Ennis and Jack as "the boys"; and their being "cute" to me deflates them to children-ish level...needing coddling and sort of unable to handle their lives; somehow deficient which is how so many people think about gay men. To me, the spirit of each man and that of the film as well as the larger gay arena should grant them the status of "the men". Just my opinion! thanks!

I know what you mean, but I've seen Annie herself refer to Ennis and Jack as "the boys" from time to time, at least when speaking about their days on the mountain.   On this site, depending on the context, I mostly see the term as affectionate. 

I don't care if you're Jesus Christ (and God knows she thinks she is).

 

Y'get yer point across, Barb. 

[Shakesthecoffecan]

In the collection "Boys Like Us" Allen Gurganius (author of Last Surviving Confederate Widow Tells All) speaks of the buy term. In his small town in North Carolina, the librarian and florist and their friends were refered to as "The Boys", which he didn't perceive maliciously, but it seemed to him like the towns people were saying they were less than men.

But yeah, Jack and Ennis will always be my boys. 

[HerrKaiser]

If it was demeaning, why in the world would I say it?

Don't know. Often, terms used and words spoken are viewed as demeaning or offensive by others than those who speak them. That's why we have political correctness.

[David In Indy]

Don't know. Often, terms used and words spoken are viewed as demeaning or offensive by others than those who speak them. That's why we have political correctness.

Bullshit. How can I be politically incorrect towards myself or my orientation?

[mvansand76]

Bullshit. How can I be politically incorrect towards myself or my orientation?

I completely agree... let's go back and see where this discussion started... calling them 'the boys', now how did we get from that innocent phrasing to a serious subject such as political correctness?

[Katie77]

Calling Jack and Ennis "the boys",is definately a term of affection, and is not meant as demeaning or childish towards them....

When I say "the boys", thats all I need to say, everyone on here knows who I mean.....I think it makes them feel like family......

I still refer to my two sons as "the boys", and they are 35 and 31 yrs old......