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personally, I think most actors are gay.  :)

What makes you think that?  :)

 

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http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/cinema/2011/10/31/111031crci_cinema_denby


The Current Cinema
All That Glitters
“Margin Call”
by David Denby
October 31, 2011



Kevin Spacey, Stanley Tucci, Jeremy Irons, Simon Baker, and Demi Moore.


I n “Margin Call,” the executives working late at an imperilled investment firm in Manhattan stand in an office tower and stare at the lights and the streets below, wondering if the great city isn’t a dream. The movie is a fictionalized account of a disastrous twenty-four hours in 2008, when “financial instruments” that had seemed solid dissolved into air. The rush of panic is halted, now and then, by moments of disbelief. Earlier in the movie, two of the company’s young analysts, sitting in the back of a Lincoln Town Car, look out at the people walking by and marvel at how little they comprehend of what is about to hit them. As visual and verbal rhetoric, the awe-inspiring appearance of Manhattan at night and the moods of choking anxiety aren’t terribly fresh, but the writing and the acting in “Margin Call” are so good that we get completely caught up. When the investment guys ask if we’re aware of what’s happening, we look at them and ask the same thing. What were people like this thinking? How could men and women paid fortunes for their judgment have continued, as late as 2008, to package, repackage, and sell billions of dollars in bonds backed by subprime mortgages? Our sense of the unreality of their enterprise is far greater than their wonder at our innocence.

As the movie opens, people at the firm are being summoned to a glass-walled conference room and politely told to clear out. Among the victims is an uncomplaining risk-management executive, Eric Dale (Stanley Tucci), who, leaving with nineteen years of his life in a cardboard box, passes a flash drive to Peter Sullivan (Zachary Quinto), one of the young analysts. “Be careful,” he says. Staying late on the trading floor, and plugging Dale’s numbers into standard volatility models, Sullivan quickly understands: if the mortgage-backed securities currently on the company’s books, which are heavily leveraged, decline in value by an additional twenty-five per cent, the company’s losses will be greater than its total market capitalization.

“Margin Call” is one of the strongest American films of the year and easily the best Wall Street movie ever made. It’s about corporate manners—the protocols of hierarchy, the rituals of power, and, most of all, the difficulty of confronting flagrant habits of speculation with truth. That moment is avoided until it’s absolutely necessary, at which point communication among the responsible parties becomes exceptionally nasty. The young writer-director, J. C. Chandor, has made documentaries and commercials, but he’s never had a script produced before, and this is his first feature as a director. Chandor’s only obvious qualification is that his father spent forty years at Merrill Lynch, which, like Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers, destroyed itself with an excess of mortgage-backed securities and finally, in 2008, subsided, at a bargain rate, into the arms of a wealthier firm. Chandor is a beginner, but, to my ears, the terse, generally understated, yet sometimes barbarously rude language feels exactly right. I would guess that he has studied David Mamet’s work, digesting the dramatic value of repetition and silence in, say, “Glengarry Glen Ross,” along with the play’s stunned outrage and the characters’ strangely displaced, almost disembodied reactions as some appalling reality swings into view.

Chandor’s prickly script attracted a talented cast. At the company, Sullivan’s findings quickly work their way upward: first, to his immediate superior, Will Emerson (Paul Bettany), a cocky, cynical, free-spending pit boss with a streak of decency; then to the longtime head of trading, Sam Rogers (Kevin Spacey), a lonely man who believes that the company does some good in the world and finds himself grieving excessively over his dog, who is dying of cancer (a decent enough symbol); then to the head of risk, Sarah Robertson (Demi Moore), who warned of danger but still has to take the fall; then to their boss, Jared Cohen (Simon Baker), a severely controlled corporate snake; and then, at last, to the C.E.O., John Tuld (Jeremy Irons). Tuld sweeps in by helicopter, assembles everyone in a conference room at 2 A.M., and, with debonair flourishes, devises a desperate strategy: dump the “greatest pile of odiferous excrement in the history of capitalism” the next day; sell all of it, at discounted rates, in a few hours, before word gets around to buyers that the paper is nearly worthless. There are a few such group meetings in “Margin Call,” but most of the scenes play out with just two or three characters bullying or appeasing one another. (Is this guy my ally? Will I survive this mess?) Chandor has worked out what all these people think of one another while keeping the drama steadily moving forward—no easy job—and if there’s a false note or an overwrought scene in “Margin Call” I couldn’t find it. Chandor has just enough camera technique to do what he needs to do. In this largely indoor movie, the city looming outside is a palpable presence; the camera, quiet and relentless in moments of confrontation, tracks silently at night through the empty trading floor, a ghost invading a once healthy company.

The second half of the movie is devoted principally to the conflict between Tuld (his name a not too subtle play on that of Dick Fuld, the former head of Lehman), who thinks that investment is merely the greatest of games, and always subject to bubbles and crashes; and Sam Rogers, who hesitates to carry out Tuld’s strategy, on the plausible ground that if you peddle junk to your customers they will never buy anything from you again. Kill trust, and you kill the market, he says. But Tuld waves away his worries. The game will go on, he believes; the firm will rise again and make money. Irons is stentorian, charming, threatening. Spacey, after a long career of playing acidulous bad guys, gives a performance of surprising gentleness. As Rogers, sleepless, makes a speech to his traders in the morning, prepping them for the unsavory task ahead, Spacey’s body slumps and his facial muscles go slack. Will Rogers walk out on Tuld? In “Margin Call,” money insistently pushes its way into personal decisions; the movie is sympathetic to the executives’ plight but hard-nosed about their constant desire to elevate pay packages over principle.

No one ever says as much, but, of course, the toxic assets were assembled in the first place, and were sold well past the danger point, because the fees from doing so were high enough to extinguish caution. Until the last moment, the smugly reckless top executives don’t even comprehend the firm’s exposure; they need the fledglings, peering into computer models, to explain it to them (not an exaggeration of what happened at several firms). If Wall Street executives find themselves at a loss to understand what the protesters outside are getting at, they could do worse than watch this movie for a few clues.
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Tell you what, though, your vision of mainstream America who think all movie stars except for the likes of Sly and Clint are gay -- that doesn't match my encounters with mainstream America. I know you live in Texas and I live in Minnesota, but even objectively speaking I wouldn't automatically consider "mainstream America" to be synonymous with conservatives who view "Hollywood liberals" with suspicion. Liberals are part of mainstream America, too.

Second, in my experience mainstream America (meaning, middle-class, middle-income, non-famous people with sort of regular jobs and middle-of-the-road politics) is far LESS aware of who might or might not be gay in Hollywood than you or I would be. At a family gathering with the ex-in-laws, I once brought up the idea that Tom Cruise is often rumored to be gay. Everybody else there -- all about as mainstream America as you can get -- just looked baffled. Not only did they not consider him gay, they'd never even heard that he MIGHT be. I bet if you ask my ex-in-laws to name five gay Hollywood celebrities, they'd get through Ellen DeGeneres, maybe one or two others, and then have to reach for Liberace

My mainstream America is a mix of your version of it along with upper lower class people who didn't go to college, have their own businesses or work blue collar trades, tend to be very religious (or give lip service to it) and conservative. 

Mention Tom Cruise and his rumored gayness and they, too, will look at you confused. 

They weren't aware it was a rumor, they already thought it was true.

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The conservative mainstream Americans I know (who include people who didn't go to college, have their own businesses or work blue collar trades) simply don't spend much of their time thinking about whether celebrities are gay or not. Everybody is presumed straight unless they have indicated otherwise. Sounds like your friends are the other way around.

Neither view is accurate, of course. But statistically speaking, your friends are further off the mark.


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The conservative mainstream Americans I know (who include people who didn't go to college, have their own businesses or work blue collar trades) simply don't spend much of their time thinking about whether celebrities are gay or not. Everybody is presumed straight unless they have indicated otherwise. Sounds like your friends are the other way around.

Neither view is accurate, of course. But statistically speaking, your friends are further off the mark.

I would go further and say that mainstream American adults don't spend much of their time thinking about sexual orientation at all. Having said that, what I've noticed is that there are some areas of show business that are considered "gayer" than others. For example, dancers are assumed to be sexual minorities more often than musicians. Actors more so than singers. Jazz musicians are "cool" so they're typically near the bottom of the list, as are people who work in non-performing areas of the industry (make-up, wig, and costume designers being a notable exception).

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http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/cinema/2011/10/31/111031crci_cinema_denby


The Current Cinema
All That Glitters
“Margin Call”
by David Denby
October 31, 2011



Kevin Spacey, Stanley Tucci, Jeremy Irons, Simon Baker, and Demi Moore.


I n “Margin Call,” the executives working late at an imperilled investment firm in Manhattan stand in an office tower and stare at the lights and the streets below, wondering if the great city isn’t a dream. The movie is a fictionalized account of a disastrous twenty-four hours in 2008, when “financial instruments” that had seemed solid dissolved into air. The rush of panic is halted, now and then, by moments of disbelief. Earlier in the movie, two of the company’s young analysts, sitting in the back of a Lincoln Town Car, look out at the people walking by and marvel at how little they comprehend of what is about to hit them. As visual and verbal rhetoric, the awe-inspiring appearance of Manhattan at night and the moods of choking anxiety aren’t terribly fresh, but the writing and the acting in “Margin Call” are so good that we get completely caught up. When the investment guys ask if we’re aware of what’s happening, we look at them and ask the same thing. What were people like this thinking? How could men and women paid fortunes for their judgment have continued, as late as 2008, to package, repackage, and sell billions of dollars in bonds backed by subprime mortgages? Our sense of the unreality of their enterprise is far greater than their wonder at our innocence.

As the movie opens, people at the firm are being summoned to a glass-walled conference room and politely told to clear out. Among the victims is an uncomplaining risk-management executive, Eric Dale (Stanley Tucci), who, leaving with nineteen years of his life in a cardboard box, passes a flash drive to Peter Sullivan (Zachary Quinto), one of the young analysts. “Be careful,” he says. Staying late on the trading floor, and plugging Dale’s numbers into standard volatility models, Sullivan quickly understands: if the mortgage-backed securities currently on the company’s books, which are heavily leveraged, decline in value by an additional twenty-five per cent, the company’s losses will be greater than its total market capitalization.

“Margin Call” is one of the strongest American films of the year and easily the best Wall Street movie ever made. It’s about corporate manners—the protocols of hierarchy, the rituals of power, and, most of all, the difficulty of confronting flagrant habits of speculation with truth. That moment is avoided until it’s absolutely necessary, at which point communication among the responsible parties becomes exceptionally nasty. The young writer-director, J. C. Chandor, has made documentaries and commercials, but he’s never had a script produced before, and this is his first feature as a director. Chandor’s only obvious qualification is that his father spent forty years at Merrill Lynch, which, like Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers, destroyed itself with an excess of mortgage-backed securities and finally, in 2008, subsided, at a bargain rate, into the arms of a wealthier firm. Chandor is a beginner, but, to my ears, the terse, generally understated, yet sometimes barbarously rude language feels exactly right. I would guess that he has studied David Mamet’s work, digesting the dramatic value of repetition and silence in, say, “Glengarry Glen Ross,” along with the play’s stunned outrage and the characters’ strangely displaced, almost disembodied reactions as some appalling reality swings into view.

Chandor’s prickly script attracted a talented cast. At the company, Sullivan’s findings quickly work their way upward: first, to his immediate superior, Will Emerson (Paul Bettany), a cocky, cynical, free-spending pit boss with a streak of decency; then to the longtime head of trading, Sam Rogers (Kevin Spacey), a lonely man who believes that the company does some good in the world and finds himself grieving excessively over his dog, who is dying of cancer (a decent enough symbol); then to the head of risk, Sarah Robertson (Demi Moore), who warned of danger but still has to take the fall; then to their boss, Jared Cohen (Simon Baker), a severely controlled corporate snake; and then, at last, to the C.E.O., John Tuld (Jeremy Irons). Tuld sweeps in by helicopter, assembles everyone in a conference room at 2 A.M., and, with debonair flourishes, devises a desperate strategy: dump the “greatest pile of odiferous excrement in the history of capitalism” the next day; sell all of it, at discounted rates, in a few hours, before word gets around to buyers that the paper is nearly worthless. There are a few such group meetings in “Margin Call,” but most of the scenes play out with just two or three characters bullying or appeasing one another. (Is this guy my ally? Will I survive this mess?) Chandor has worked out what all these people think of one another while keeping the drama steadily moving forward—no easy job—and if there’s a false note or an overwrought scene in “Margin Call” I couldn’t find it. Chandor has just enough camera technique to do what he needs to do. In this largely indoor movie, the city looming outside is a palpable presence; the camera, quiet and relentless in moments of confrontation, tracks silently at night through the empty trading floor, a ghost invading a once healthy company.

The second half of the movie is devoted principally to the conflict between Tuld (his name a not too subtle play on that of Dick Fuld, the former head of Lehman), who thinks that investment is merely the greatest of games, and always subject to bubbles and crashes; and Sam Rogers, who hesitates to carry out Tuld’s strategy, on the plausible ground that if you peddle junk to your customers they will never buy anything from you again. Kill trust, and you kill the market, he says. But Tuld waves away his worries. The game will go on, he believes; the firm will rise again and make money. Irons is stentorian, charming, threatening. Spacey, after a long career of playing acidulous bad guys, gives a performance of surprising gentleness. As Rogers, sleepless, makes a speech to his traders in the morning, prepping them for the unsavory task ahead, Spacey’s body slumps and his facial muscles go slack. Will Rogers walk out on Tuld? In “Margin Call,” money insistently pushes its way into personal decisions; the movie is sympathetic to the executives’ plight but hard-nosed about their constant desire to elevate pay packages over principle.

No one ever says as much, but, of course, the toxic assets were assembled in the first place, and were sold well past the danger point, because the fees from doing so were high enough to extinguish caution. Until the last moment, the smugly reckless top executives don’t even comprehend the firm’s exposure; they need the fledglings, peering into computer models, to explain it to them (not an exaggeration of what happened at several firms). If Wall Street executives find themselves at a loss to understand what the protesters outside are getting at, they could do worse than watch this movie for a few clues.

It´s not often that I get very excited about new movies, but this one sounds very interesting!

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Having said that, what I've noticed is that there are some areas of show business that are considered "gayer" than others. For example, dancers are assumed to be sexual minorities more often than musicians. Actors more so than singers. Jazz musicians are "cool" so they're typically near the bottom of the list, as are people who work in non-performing areas of the industry (make-up, wig, and costume designers being a notable exception).

Clearly some professions are more proportionately gay. I would expect that to change as mainstream America gets less homophobic. My assumption is that the reason some professions have larger (or smaller) proportions of gay workers has more to do with the acceptance of gay people (or lack thereof) within that industry than because gay people are predisposed to pursue certain professions (though I suppose it's possible both are factors).

When I worked at Macy's, I sometimes joked that men practically HAD to be gay to work there. Not really, of course, but gay men outnumbered straight men. That's been the case since my mother started working in a department store 40 years ago.

In the case of Delalluvia's conservative friends, though, what seems to be happening is less a considered assessment of the relative openness of the entertainment industry to gay professionals than it is a more generalized suspicion of anything "Hollywood" that equates it with liberalism and homosexuality (and probably various other things they disapprove of).



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But Zach Quinto doesn't seem quite B-list, either. To me, B list celebrities are those who haven't held one of the top starring roles a big-budget major studio movie, playing a beloved TV character, and didn't also star in a successful TV series. Maybe he's A-minus list.




Not for long, I think.

"Then Spock beamed in."

Wow! He's a 'Playa'--a playa with pointy ears!  8) :laugh:







See? I told you--he is  a playa! Yay, Zach!   ;D





http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=682810


Zachary Quinto producing
Hurricane Katrina romantic drama

WENN
Nov. 12, 2011, 6:41 AM EST

 



"Star Trek" actor Zachary Quinto is set to produce a romantic movie set in the aftermath of 2005's devastating Hurricane Katrina in Louisiana.

The star's production company is teaming up with Killer Films to work on "Imperial Palace," which will tell the story of a man who manages a casino used as the headquarters for relief efforts and is caught up in a love triangle with his ex-girlfriend and another man.

This is not Quinto's first time producing a big screen project -- he previously worked behind the scenes on "Margin Call," in which he starred opposite Demi Moore, Kevin Spacey and Jeremy Irons.

In a statement, Quinto says, "We're thrilled to take the momentum of 'Margin Call' and our experience working with [director] Victor [Quinaz] on his first film to move into a second feature with him. He's a truly original talent, and Imperial Palace is a perfect example of his unique, commercial voice."


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I figure I'm pretty much always the last to know about celebrity "news," so I sure got a surprise from this morning's Metro newspaper. It didn't especially surprise me to learn that Zachary Quinto is "in a relationship," but it sure did come as a surprise to learn that his partner is my Lancaster County, Pa., homeboy Jonathan Groff, of Glee and Broadway.

Hot always does gravitate to hot.  :)
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