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Viharsarok (Land of Storms)--BEWARE SPOILERS!
« on: April 07, 2015, 11:52:41 am »
Has anyone seen this?

[youtube=425,350]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=809f_qq-bko[/youtube]

I'm trying to find a suitable copy of it online and it seems most people trying to do the same run into the same problems.  The movie is hard to find and finding a proper English subtitle that syncs up with the movie is impossible.  It seems there is a subtitle that someone made a few months back but by their own admission there is mistakes because they aren't fluent in the languages and according to people who have tried that sub it doesn't sync properly with the movie anyway.

It drives me nuts because I want to see it.
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Re: Viharsarok (Land of Storms)
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2015, 12:38:04 pm »
Howdy, Superpop.  Wanna cup of coffee, dontcha, piece of cherry cake?

Here's your trailer for Viharsarok--some call it the "Hungarian Brokeback".  (I removed the 's' in the https).  Looks interesting; not much dialogue apparently.  I see it's available on Netflix in the US. Also on amazon.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=809f_qq-bko[/youtube]

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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2015, 12:49:06 pm »
Howdy, Superpop.  Wanna cup of coffee, dontcha, piece of cherry cake?

Here's your trailer for Viharsarok--some call it the "Hungarian Brokeback".  (I removed the 's' in the https).  Looks interesting; not much dialogue apparently.  I see it's available on Netflix in the US. Also on amazon.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=809f_qq-bko[/youtube]

Ahh...no Netflix.  

I'll get Netflix again in June when season 3 of Orange is the New Black comes out and than binge on that, House of Cards season 3, and Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt...and then cancel Netflix again. LOL

I want to watch this movie before then but I may just have to wait to see it properly because I'm not going to watch it with messed up subtitles.

As for "Hungarian Brokeback"...I mean I haven't seen the film but that sounds ridiculous to me.  From the trailer it looks nothing like Brokeback Mountain. It would be like calling Shelter the "Surfer Brokeback".  The only other gay film I have ever seen that I would compare to Brokeback Mountain is Freier Fall because they share the same story at a very basic level so I get why that is called the "German Brokeback".

Thanks for fixing my link BTW

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Re: Viharsarok (Land of Storms)
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2015, 04:51:40 pm »



More.


[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFZDOtoU5X8[/youtube]


[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKm4-fQYd6I[/youtube]


[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuErWcD0NMc[/youtube]



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Re: Viharsarok (Land of Storms)
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2015, 07:52:18 pm »
As for "Hungarian Brokeback"...I mean I haven't seen the film but that sounds ridiculous to me.  From the trailer it looks nothing like Brokeback Mountain. It would be like calling Shelter the "Surfer Brokeback".  The only other gay film I have ever seen that I would compare to Brokeback Mountain is Freier Fall because they share the same story at a very basic level so I get why that is called the "German Brokeback".

Thanks for fixing my link BTW

I certainly agree. The "whatever" Brokeback thing is often overdone.  However, do you know about "Undertow/Contracorriente"?  It's the "Peruvian Brokeback".  We have a thread about it here on BetterMost.

Also, I hear rumors of a Freier Fall 2. 

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Re: Viharsarok (Land of Storms)
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2015, 02:16:56 pm »
DVD arrived today.  I'll report back.

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Re: Viharsarok (Land of Storms)
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2015, 02:35:46 pm »
awaites Paul's review....


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Re: Viharsarok (Land of Storms)
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2015, 12:49:35 am »
DVD arrived today.  I'll report back.


Let us know what you think.  I just found a watchable copy but I started binge watching the show Vikings and gotta finish that up first before I watch Viharsarok.

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Re: Viharsarok (Land of Storms)
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2015, 11:25:43 pm »
I just finished watching it for the second time. 

I'll try to avoid spoilers. A few impressions.

While there are some parallels and interesting connections, even almost word-for-word lines, it's really not Hungarian Brokeback. 
It is, however, largely about rural homophobia, and internalized homophobia. 

Hungary is the Wyoming of Europe.  And, instead of horses, they have motorbikes.  A dilapidated house instead of a tent. You can find a Jack, and an Ennis, but it's a different story.  There are brutal father figures, a mother too. The Catholic church looms large.

So much of the story is told through (the main character) Szabi's face.  Not really that much dialogue, and I have no reason to think that the subtitles are wrong.  In fact, you could watch the film with the sound off and understand it completely.

It's full of ambiguity and ambivalence.  Eros/thanatos.  Love/death.  Eroticism/violence.  It is at times achingly tender. 

The cinematography is stunning.  All the more difficult because rural Hungary isn't much to look at.  No majestic mountains or lakes, etc.  There is one incongruous swan boat.  But each shot is somehow perfect. 

Not sure what to make of the ending, but at the very beginning, they say it's based on a true story.  It seems many people were disappointed.  Made more sense to me the second time. 

Has anyone else seen it yet?

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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2015, 04:36:23 am »
I just finished watching it for the second time.  

I'll try to avoid spoilers. A few impressions.

While there are some parallels and interesting connections, even almost word-for-word lines, it's really not Hungarian Brokeback.  
It is, however, largely about rural homophobia, and internalized homophobia.  

Hungary is the Wyoming of Europe.  And, instead of horses, they have motorbikes.  A dilapidated house instead of a tent. You can find a Jack, and an Ennis, but it's a different story.  There are brutal father figures, a mother too. The Catholic church looms large.

So much of the story is told through (the main character) Szabi's face.  Not really that much dialogue, and I have no reason to think that the subtitles are wrong.  In fact, you could watch the film with the sound off and understand it completely.

It's full of ambiguity and ambivalence.  Eros/thanatos.  Love/death.  Eroticism/violence.  It is at times achingly tender.  

The cinematography is stunning.  All the more difficult because rural Hungary isn't much to look at.  No majestic mountains or lakes, etc.  There is one incongruous swan boat.  But each shot is somehow perfect.  

Not sure what to make of the ending, but at the very beginning, they say it's based on a true story.  It seems many people were disappointed.  Made more sense to me the second time.  

Has anyone else seen it yet?

I just finished it.  I don't know what I can add to what you posted without spoilers.  I wish this website had spoiler tags that you had to highlight to read what was underneath so I could discuss it with you.

I would now like to read up more about the true story aspect but I'm guessing I would have a difficult time finding articles.

EDIT: I did find a facebook post and it's not quite what happened in the film.

SPOILERS....  https://www.facebook.com/landofstorms/posts/671325322989509


Still wish I could find more actual articles

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Re: Viharsarok (Land of Storms)---SPOILERS BEWARE!
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2015, 09:25:24 am »
Hi Superpop.  We have plenty of out-in-the-open threads with spoilers, as long as there's a warning. 

Since this is such a rare film, I suggest changing the thread title to SPOILERS BEWARE, and we can discuss anything. 

I'll go ahead and change the thread title.

I"ll also try and post some good articles.  Many are only in German or Hungarian...

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Re: Viharsarok (Land of Storms)
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2015, 09:28:22 am »
WARNING:  BELOW THIS POST THERE BE SPOILERS!

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Re: Viharsarok (Land of Storms)---SPOILERS BEWARE!
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2015, 02:32:12 pm »
Hi Superpop.  We have plenty of out-in-the-open threads with spoilers, as long as there's a warning. 

Since this is such a rare film, I suggest changing the thread title to SPOILERS BEWARE, and we can discuss anything. 

I'll go ahead and change the thread title.

I"ll also try and post some good articles.  Many are only in German or Hungarian...

I wouldn't mind some articles in German or Hungarian if you found any.  They are a little harder to follow when translated but still easy enough.

I will admit I did NOT see that ending coming even though it's based on a true story.  I thought Áron was just going to say they couldn't be together at the end.  I didn't think he would murder Szabolcs.  That ending messed with me!

Also I found a reuters article that suggests Áron murdered both Szabolcs and Bernard but I think that is inaccurate...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/12/berlin-film-gays-idUSL5N0LG3UE20140212

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Re: Viharsarok (Land of Storms)--BEWARE SPOILERS!
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2015, 02:37:02 pm »
Here's a review from CineVue:

Berlin 2014: 'Land of Storms' review

★★★☆☆
Ádám Császi's debut film Land of Storms (2014) is a tale of gay sexual awakening in rural Hungary that renders the endorphine rush of ecstasy that blooms during youthful infatuation. Told through a series of visually salient passages, Császi's confident debut provides another voice in the current collective discourse regarding gay rights in Eastern Europe. Szabo (András Sütö) plays for the youth team of a professional German football club. He spends his free time socialising with the rest of the players, partaking in late night drinking binges, communal pornography screenings and mutual masturbation sessions.

 Szabo's manager sees Szabo's potential, and rides him hard, determined to get the best out of him. However, there's something about this overtly masculine environment that doesn't suit this young footballing prodigy, and after an argument with his manager over a merited red card, he decides to return to Hungary in search of a new life. Opposing his father's wishes, he moves to his Grandfather's old house in the country, determined to fix it up and keep bees. He can't do all the labour by himself and ends up hiring a young man named Arun (Ádám Varga) who he first encounters when he attempted to steal Szabo's moped. The pair are instantly compatible, and it isn't long before their true feelings begin to rise to the surface.

Császi's idyllic rural ménage   trois could so easily have become a trite and sleazy drama were it not for the visually refined cinematography of the talented Marcell Rév, whose ornate imagery helps accentuate Császi's highly developed eye for framing and composition. This isn't to say that the film doesn't conform to the usual clichés and heavy-handed symbolism that have dominated this particular genre of cinema in the past. Whilst Land of Storms boasts a host of poignant and evocatively haptic imagery, the on screen relationships never quite feel fully developed, cutting all too willingly from the libidinous glance of their romance's initial gestation to the overpowering fixations that leads to their inevitable downfall.

Land of Storms is, ultimately, another film about Eastern European homophobia that, whilst pertinent to contemporary issues, ultimately feels like a story we've seen portrayed before. Even the film's subtle swipe at the paradoxical homophobia in the testosterone fuelled world of sport has been represent in Tomasz Wasilewski's clinical sophomore effort, Floating Skyscrapers (2013). Császi's confidently unchaste tale about forbidden desires in the disobliging environs of rural Hungary commendably never shies away from the sexuality at the core of its story, all the while never succumbing to gratuitous overt eroticism.

 Switching from picturesque wide-angled landscape shots to tight, intimate close-ups, Császi depicts sex in an erogenous, yet guarded fashion to highlight the tenderness of these sexual encounters rather than merely depict the corporeal covetousness their lecherous glances might otherwise presuppose. Heavily emblematic and often a little heavy handed, Land of Storms may feel like a reproduction of other film's highlighting homophobia, yet thanks to Császi's direction and some nuanced performances from the film's trio of deliriously infatuated young men we're left with an intensely beautiful replica of a sadly germane issue.

http://www.cine-vue.com/2014/02/berlin-2014-land-of-storms-review.html

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Re: Viharsarok (Land of Storms)--BEWARE SPOILERS!
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2015, 02:43:09 pm »
Here's a better review from Hollywood Reporter:

Land of Storms (Viharsarok): Berlin Review


11:00 AM PST 2/8/2014 by David Rooney 

Land of Storms


Sebastian Urzendowsky, Andras Sueto and Adam Varga in "Land of Storms"


The Bottom Line

A sensual film with equal parts tenderness and sadness that is forthright and unsentimental in its treatment of gay self-discovery.


Venue

Berlin Film Festival (Panorama Special)

Cast

Andras Sueto, Adam Varga, Sebastian Urzendowsky, Eniko Borcsok, Lajos Otto Horvath, Uwe Lauer, Kristof Horvath, Zita Teby

Screenwriters

Adam Csaszi, Ivan Szabo


Director

Adam Csaszi

A soccer player returns from Germany to a little house on the Hungarian prairie that soon becomes a hotbed of tormented gay passion in Adam Csaszi’s captivating drama.


Hungarian director Adam Csaczi’s assured debut feature, Land of Storms, is a potently atmospheric drama of three young gay men wrestling with their sexuality in an unaccommodating environment. Unfolding mainly in lonely rural flatlands that seem to belong to a forgotten Europe, the film is emotionally and erotically charged yet free from melodrama, even when it moves inexorably toward the somewhat inevitable martyrdom of one of its characters. Driven by compelling internalized performances from its easy-on-the-eye leads, this is a steamy, stylish entry that will entice specialized gay distributors. TLA Releasing has already acquired rights for the U.S., U.K. and other territories.

Cinematographer Marcell Rev’s beautifully composed low- and high-angle opening shots establish right off the bat that the director has a fully developed visual sense. The film’s central focus is the sexual awakening of Szabolcs (Andras Sueto), a talented Hungarian soccer player on a German team, all of them first seen spread out like youthful splendor in the grass after a hard round of practice.

In brief scene fragments we see his breezy rapport with his teammates – they get tattoos together, watch straight porn, and attempt to contain their pre-match nerves before a crucial faceoff. When that clash goes badly and Szabolcs’ team leadership is criticized, a fight ensues in the showers with his closest friend, Bernard (Sebastian Urzendowsky). Disillusioned by the experience, Szabolcs skulks off to Hungary. But instead of returning home to face the disappointment of his father (Lajos Otto Horvath), who is his main reason for pursuing a soccer career, Szabolcs takes up residence in the dilapidated prairie farmhouse his grandfather left him.

When he catches hunky villager Aron (Adam Varga) trying to steal his motorbike, the chastened guy sticks around to help him fix the leaking roof. A friendship develops, with mutual attraction surfacing during a night on the schnapps. Though while Szabolcs acts on the impulse, Aron initially hides behind his drunkenness to stay outside the experience. He loosens up as barriers are broken down, but the pressure of his religious beliefs, his needy mother (Eniko Borcsok), a sometime girlfriend (Zita Teby) and the homophobic local youths fuels his conflict.

Both Szabolcs and Aron endure separate experiences of violence as word gets out about them. However, a fresh problem arrives when Bernard turns up, declaring the affections he kept concealed in Germany. The romantic triangle becomes almost idyllic for a time, infused with tenderness, but jealousy and external forces quickly intrude.

In less accomplished hands, much of this might be standard-issue gay drama dominated by angst. But while it’s not without clichés, Csaszi and co-writer Ivan Szabo lend soulfulness and seriousness to the characters, in addition to refreshingly frank treatment of their physical relationships. There’s something unexpectedly affecting about Szabolcs’ desire for a life of simplicity in which to gain fuller knowledge of himself (he even starts beekeeping), and there’s strength of character in his decision to stay there after exposing Aron to hostility, rather than escaping to someplace more accepting.

While Sueto’s taciturn but disarmingly direct character is very much the heart of the film, the three lead actors are equally persuasive. They convey a touching sense of young men learning to trust themselves and one another during an uneasy personal process. The path of Aron, in particular, is well drawn. He seems as aware as we are that if Szabolcs hadn’t turned up he might have avoided, whatever the cost, facing a part of himself that causes him shame and anger.

In addition to the naturalness of the cast, the striking settings are a key part of the film’s effectiveness. The summer storms rolling in over painterly widescreen shots of countryside that’s both gorgeous and desolate might be a little obvious as a metaphor. But this is an absorbing drama, veiled in melancholy and also laced with moments of sexy, liberating self-discovery that will stir poignant memories of youth for many gay men. It sure kept me awake and glued at an 8:30 a.m. screening.

Venue: Berlin Film Festival (Panorama Special)

Production companies: Proton Cinema, in association with I’m Film, Cafe Film, Unafilm

Cast: Andras Sueto, Adam Varga, Sebastian Urzendowsky, Eniko Borcsok, Lajos Otto Horvath, Uwe Lauer, Kristof Horvath, Zita Teby

Director: Adam Csaszi

Screenwriters: Adam Csaszi, Ivan Szabo

Producers: Eszter Gyarfas, Viktoria Petranyi

Director of photography: Marcell Rev

Production designer: Nora Takacs

Music: Csaba Kalotas

Costume designer: Klara Kalicz

Editors: Tamas Kollanyi, Julia Hack

Sales: M-Appeal

No rating, 105 minutes

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/land-storms-viharsarok-berlin-review-678597

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Re: Viharsarok (Land of Storms)--BEWARE SPOILERS!
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2015, 02:45:44 pm »
Superpop, this reviewer from Variety surely agrees with you regarding the last scene.

Adam Csaszi's confidently directed gay love story boasts exceptional performances and evocative visuals.
 

Jay Weissberg
   
 
A diffident gay soccer player enters into a stormy relationship with a straight-identified builder in “Land of Storms,” a remarkably confident debut from Adam Csaszi. Boasting exceptional performances and evocative visuals, thanks to well-considered lensing paired with deep tonalities possible only on celluloid, “Land” barely puts a foot wrong. Too bad the last scene has such unfortunate resonances: The script discarded several facts from the case it’s based on, so why retain a finale that harks back to a more moralistic era? Notwithstanding this miscalculation, Csaszi’s trenchant drama of desire and homophobia deserves fest and arthouse attention.

Hungarian Szabolcs, nicknamed Szabi (Andras Suto), is a star player on a German team awash in the usual athletic machismo. Unsure about his direction in life and distressed by a fight with roommate Bernard (Sebastian Urzendowsky, “Goodbye First Love”), Szabi sabotages his favored position in the coach’s esteem and suddenly returns to Hungary and the dilapidated house he inherited in the countryside.

One night he catches Aron (Adam Varga) trying to steal his motorbike; rather than turn him in, Szabi has him help fix the tumbledown house. In isolation from the nearby town, their bond deepens, and in a strikingly shot scene set against a parched patch of earth, lit by the motorbike’s headlight, Szabi gives the drunken Aron a hand job. Awakening to this new desire yet uncomfortable with the idea, Aron mentions to his invalid mother Mari (Eniko Borcsok) that Szabi felt him up and he allowed it to happen.

Disgusted, Mari tells others, and Szabi is viciously beaten by some locals. Undeterred as long as Aron remains, Szabi starts raising bees — the first time he really smiles is when he’s tending the hive with Aron. Then, unexpectedly, Bernard turns up wanting to reclaim Szabi’s love and take him back to Germany. Now, after accepting his feelings for Szabi, and suffering torment from the malicious townsfolk, Aron fears he’ll lose his lover.

Csaszi doesn’t shy away from visualizing male flesh, and the homoeroticism onscreen is potently realized via a very masculine physicality that evokes the alternations of sensuality and force featured in the work of the modern dance company DV8 Physical Theatre (a striking scene of Szabi and Aron installing a glass-paned door has a dance-like grace). Deliberately recalling the male-on-male tactility on the soccer field and in the locker rooms, these sequences provocatively challenge the macho heterosexual posturing of the sports world, injecting an arousing tug of desire that’s not at all gratuitous.

“Land of Storms” is also unflinching in the way it depicts homophobia, whether in throwaway lines during sports practice or via brutal beatings in the rural town. By withstanding these slings and arrows of outrageous hatred, Szabi becomes a hero, not outright in the plot but in the subtext, and Suto’s inward-looking intensity magnifies that sense of a man who has recently come to believe he can control his own destiny, rather than be told by others how to live his life. It’s a performance worthy of awards, powerful yet vulnerable and finely attuned, like the film itself, to the effectiveness of silence.

Equally praiseworthy is the superb lensing by Marcell Rev, vividly realized in scene after scene that impresses with bold compositions and well-considered angles. Attentive to effects of light and shadow, Csaszi works beautifully with dusk and night shots that retain depth and warmth thanks to the full-bodied color hues offered by film stock. If only that last scene could be removed.

http://variety.com/2014/film/reviews/berlin-film-review-land-of-storms-1201112827/

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« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2015, 02:46:57 pm »
This page from IMDb gives links to many more reviews, including in German, Hungarian and other languages.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2474310/externalreviews?ref_=tt_ov_rt

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Re: Viharsarok (Land of Storms)--BEWARE SPOILERS!
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2015, 02:49:46 pm »
I didn't agree with Ádám Császi's decision to alter the ending while still saying it's based on a true story.

Either tell the full truth about how BRUTAL Szabolcs' murder was or alter the story more and call it fiction. Plus there is some doubt that Áron committed the murder and that bothers me as well.  

If those character names are even real....I wish I could find some articles about the real life case