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GETTING SLUTTY--GAY IN THAILAND
« on: April 13, 2015, 03:09:29 pm »
13 April 2015

No, sex is NOT all I think about, but I just got back from 6 weeks in Southeast Asia where I lived and worked for several year, and I did a lot of looking and remembering.  Since some of you guys may be contemplating a trip to Thailand with the hopes of getting laid.  I thought you might want to know what you are in for.

I only know about the men in Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand.  I'll talk about Thailand here.  Sexual orientation is not such a big deal in Thailand.  Thai men can be divided into 1) straighter men, 2) gay-for-pay men, 3) gay men, and 4) ladyboys—transgender men who, irritatingly, have come to be emblematic of what being gay in SE Asia is all about.  

Ladyboys are in all parts of Thailand, but their headquarters seems to be in Pattaya, the sin capital of Thailand south of Bangkok.  In Bangkok they are to be found in all the entertainment districts since many of them work as prostitutes and escorts  They are NOT to be found in the Khao San Road area.  Ladyboys were never my thing, and in all my time in Thailand I only spoke to a few—telling them (trying not to be rude) that I was interested in sleeping with a man not a woman.

There is a fine line between gay Thai men and gay-for-pay men.  This is because virtually every sexual  interaction between a foreigner and a Thai man involves money.  You can have a one-night stand or have a man stay with you during your entire trip, travelling with you to other parts of Thailand and beyond.  If the latter, he will act as your host, take you to all the places to see, to the best street food, and run interference for you if necessary in sticky situation, AND he will keep you warm at night.  You find them in the gay bars.  (You can also find expat Westerners providing the same services, but they are a lot more expensive than local men, and for them it is mostly sex)  There is no reason to class sex-workers as hustlers.  They provide a service, and happy to do it, and while you are with them they make you feel that they care.  I have seen some nice love stories come out of escort situations.

Where you will NOT find any gay action at all is on Khao San Road—the main backpacker street in Bangkok, and where you will probably start your trip unless you are the 5-star hotel type  Snooty and relentlessly politically correct people denounce Khao San Road for being overpriced, garish, basically bars, guest houses, and tee shirt shops—the ultimate in bad taste.  That is probably why I enjoy staying there at least for a few days.  It is absolutely straight.  There is one gay bar on a nearby street, but that is for gay Thais, not for foreigners.  I moaned about this to the Dutch woman who owned the little cafe/bar I frequented.  I told her that I KNEW I couldn't be the only queer on Khao San Road; statistically roughly 5% of the men I was looking out at had to be gay.  My gaydar went off a couple of times, but nowhere as much as it should have.

What you are looking for is to be found elsewhere in Bangkok. There are some gay bars in the Sukhumvit area, on some of the side streets (sois) especially around Soi Cowboy, Soi 45.  But the main action is where it has been for at least the past 50 years—Silom Road near near Patpong Road (a side street off of Silom) especially Soi 2 and Soi 4.  You can google <gay Bangkok> for more specific info like names of bars.  But almost all of them open up late, so don;t expect much action if you get there too early.  In younger days I got into trouble there from time to time, and was surprised I didn't end up floating face down in a canal.  But Thai gay men are not ruthless, unlike some of their counterparts in North America.  The scene in a Thai gay bar in the entertainment districts is pretty well the same as it is in straight bars, except the people who flock around you when you enter, and cluster around your table and try to sit on your lap, are young men rather than young women. And, gay bars are more expensive than straight bars.  If you find yourself in a straight bar and are inundated by unwelcome women, just tell them you are gay—even better go in with a friend and tell them you two are lovers.  Just telling them to go away won't work because they will think you want a different selection to draw from, and new women will take their place.  They won't care; you're just a little bit of money they won't male.  No hard feelings.  There ARE gay hotels catering to foreigners.  They are generally more expensive, but if you are unsuccessful in your search through the gay bars, there are lots of young  men available in the hotel bar and foyer, so you will find someone to keep you company there.

Now, to get down to basics,  I have not slept with every available Thai man (sadly) so I must generalize from my own experience.  The problem with Thai men is that their dicks are too small, and they cum so fast you haven't even gotten started.  Now I like to think I gave good head, but not THAT good.  Depending on what you are actually doing, it may not be crucially important when he cums, but I like it when we are at least on the same page.  Also, you'll have a better time if you are into twinks, since that is what most Thai men are.  Anyway, money is going to be involved somehow, so don't freak out and think you are being taken advantage of.   And remember that Thailand has a relatively high HIV rate, so play safely.

Enjoy your trip.


 
« Last Edit: April 19, 2015, 01:56:30 am by x-man »
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Re: GETTING SLUTTY--GAY IN THAILAND
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2015, 03:44:57 pm »
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on some of the side streets (sois) especially around Soi Cowboy, Soi 45.

Sorry, I'm confused. Is "Cowboy" the name of a bar or the name of a street?

Very interesting reading, X-man. Thailand does not sound like my kind of place. I'm afraid the culture as you describe it would just freak me out. The older I get, the more puritanical I seem to be becoming as regards my own conduct. Plus, with my luck, I'd spend a trip to Thailand with whatever is the Thai equivalent of Montezuma's Revenge.  :-\
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Re: GETTING SLUTTY--GAY IN THAILAND
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2015, 04:54:10 pm »
Sorry, I'm confused. Is "Cowboy" the name of a bar or the name of a street?

Very interesting reading, X-man. Thailand does not sound like my kind of place. I'm afraid the culture as you describe it would just freak me out. The older I get, the more puritanical I seem to be becoming as regards my own conduct. Plus, with my luck, I'd spend a trip to Thailand with whatever is the Thai equivalent of Montezuma's Revenge.  :-\

Jeff, Soi means alley.  Soi Cowboy is indeed a street.  Sois usually have numbers.  Soi Cowboy is the only soi I know that has a name.

Thailand isn't all like the stuff I was talking about--I was just focusing on the gay hot zones.  
You know me--I'm attracted to muscle bears, but if you are into twinks, you really won't go wrong hooking up with a Thai escort.  They will treat you right.
As for Montezuma's revenge, take Ducoral (sp?) before you go.  It takes care of the problem very well.  If you have ever had "explosive diarrhea" you will do anything to avoid it.  I shudder to remember.

You're  getting more puritanical as you get older?  I'm just the opposite.  In Penang this time I was naughty.  I didn't think I had had THAT many beers, but I found myself in a strange bar, I had blacked out, and came to being helped/half-carried back to my guesthouse )fortunately only 2 blocks away) by two of the barmen.  The one on my right was nice, and I knew he was gay.  So I said to him, "You are SO fucking hot  I haven't seen anything this good for a long time.  If I were 50 years younger, I would capture you and take you to my lair and we would fuck and fuck until we couldn't do it any more--then we'd take some poppers and fuck some more."  By that time we were halfway to my guesthouse, so I continued by telling him graphically exactly what I wanted to do with him.  He wasn't offended at all, and seemed delighted and amused.  I was playing it for laughs, even as drunk as I was.  Give me a little alcohol or put me in front of a class, and it's show time!
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Re: GETTING SLUTTY--GAY IN THAILAND
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2015, 06:18:23 pm »
Jeff, Soi means alley.  Soi Cowboy is indeed a street.  Sois usually have numbers.  Soi Cowboy is the only soi I know that has a name.

Thanks for clarifying that for me. Now, any idea how it got that name? Do lots of American tourists hang out there?

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Thailand isn't all like the stuff I was talking about--I was just focusing on the gay hot zones.

Thanks, I understood that. I'm sure Thailand must have a lot of beautiful cultural things to be seen by tourists who are looking for that sort of thing. I just think I couldn't deal with what apparently goes on in the "gay hot zones" anymore. I sure don't mean to be judgmental of gay Thai men or their cultural. It's their culture, after all; it's just not my culture. Seems like the older I get, the more the white, North European, Protestant, church-going background comes out.

But enough of me. Your accounts of your adventures are interesting, and you tell them well.

(Incidentally, I'll be away tending to my dad and his cataract surgery from tomorrow afternoon till Thursday evening. I'll try to catch up when I get back.) 

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Give me a little alcohol or put me in front of a class, and it's show time!

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