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Your antipodes
« on: October 26, 2006, 03:01:02 am »
We were chatting about who is furthest from Wyoming, and I remembered I have made an antipodes map. As you can see, only southern South America / South East Asia and New Zealand / parts of Spain, and a few other places (eg Pacific islands) really have antipodes, everything else is rather neatly opposed by ocean. So only people in Argentina and Chile could really "dig a hole through to China" - except that they couldn't, the molten core would gush out the hole.

(The closer you are to the antipodes of Wyoming, the further you are from Wyoming, so someone in Perth or Capetown is further from Wyoming than me.)

« Last Edit: October 26, 2006, 03:09:01 am by Shuggy »

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Re: Your antipodes
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2006, 04:45:59 pm »
New Zealanders probably know our antipodes better than other places, first of course because we have some, but also because there used to be a map in the school atlases showing just New Zealand overlaid with an upside down Spain.

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Re: Your antipodes
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2006, 05:37:22 pm »
Hey Shuggy!

Thanks for the antipodes visual - I'm sometimes spatially challenged, so this helps a lot!  :)

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Re: Your antipodes
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2006, 11:47:29 pm »
I've now made a version for T-shirts, etc. and they're at http://www.cafepress.com/ahua/2090491.
But someone's posted one ex Wikipedia which is transparent, and that's so much better. Damn, I'll have to redo it.

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Re: Your antipodes
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2006, 03:09:12 am »
So apparently the antipode for Indiana is the Pacific ocean.

It's a good thing I never tried to dig that hole to China when I was a kid.... I would have drowned.  ;)

Thanks for posting this Shuggy! It's really interesting.  :)
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Re: Your antipodes
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2006, 03:33:51 am »
So apparently the antipode for Indiana is the Pacific ocean.
No, the Indian Ocean - the one on the other side goes the other way, you see.

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.. I would have drowned.  ;)
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Re: Your antipodes
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2006, 08:32:20 am »
random thought

It is startling to me that primitive man knew so much about the physical world and translated it into myth and religion.

One of the earliest forms of 'hell' was the pit of fire in the center of the Earth (or underground) How did they know that the middle of the planet was molten lava? I know they saw volcanos and all but seems a big jump to take a local event...a mountain that rained out fire and figure out the fire was all underneath their feet...

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Re: Your antipodes
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2006, 04:03:50 pm »
random thought

It is startling to me that primitive man knew so much about the physical world and translated it into myth and religion.

One of the earliest forms of 'hell' was the pit of fire in the center of the Earth (or underground) How did they know that the middle of the planet was molten lava? I know they saw volcanos and all but seems a big jump to take a local event...a mountain that rained out fire and figure out the fire was all underneath their feet...
Well, here in NZ we have extensive geothermal regions - mainly hot water and mud, and no myth of Hell. (We do have an earthquake god, Ruaumoko, a baby suckling at the Earth Mother's breast, who was taken underground when her children turned her over so she was not tormented by the sight of the Sky Father, whom they had separated from her.)

What's the story in Hawai`i, where molten lava is relatively common? What makes you think they are connected? While the magma/lava glows red when it comes out, it doesn't radiate any light anywhere when its in situ. Hell was traditionally burning sulphur. Someone calculated that Heaven was hotter (seven times something or other) than Hell (limited by the properties of sulphur).

Primitive people very much went by appearances. If it moved, it was alive. Overhead was something that looked like a dome studded with stars, so that what it was. What was on the other side? Aha! Heaven! And Hell would be diametrically opposed.

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Re: Your antipodes
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2006, 04:16:41 pm »
Watch out. That poster has a low startle point.

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Re: Your antipodes
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2006, 05:16:38 pm »
Well, here in NZ we have extensive geothermal regions - mainly hot water and mud, and no myth of Hell. (We do have an earthquake god, Ruaumoko, a baby suckling at the Earth Mother's breast, who was taken underground when her children turned her over so she was not tormented by the sight of the Sky Father, whom they had separated from her.)

What's the story in Hawai`i, where molten lava is relatively common? What makes you think they are connected? While the magma/lava glows red when it comes out, it doesn't radiate any light anywhere when its in situ. Hell was traditionally burning sulphur. Someone calculated that Heaven was hotter (seven times something or other) than Hell (limited by the properties of sulphur).

Primitive people very much went by appearances. If it moved, it was alive. Overhead was something that looked like a dome studded with stars, so that what it was. What was on the other side? Aha! Heaven! And Hell would be diametrically opposed.

 ???

That flew over my head so fast it parted my hair.

You lost me on that one Shuggy. I'm not a very intellectual person.

Plato, I'm not.

I wish I could understand it because it sounds very interesting.  :)
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