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The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread
« on: April 06, 2006, 05:18:35 am »
Meryl made me do it - but you know we all love her nonetheless. She has exactly three lines in the movie and could have been nominated for best supporting actress. Kuddos to Roberta Maxwell for her portrayal ...And now on to the main feature of this thread:

The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread

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I love everything Jack's Mom because she understands...

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Re: The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread - merged
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2006, 05:20:39 am »
I love that Jack's mom wears a blue plaid flannel shirt over her dress and under her sweater.  I wonder if it was Jack's.
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Re: The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread - merged
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2006, 05:25:25 am »
I love that you can see where Jack's big, blue, expressive, soulful eyes came from.... (inspired piece of casting)
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2006, 05:35:54 am »
I love Jack's Mom because after watching my DVD six times I am CERTAIN she knew those shirts were there and wanted Ennis to find them!  The look on her face when he holds them up and she nods and turns for the bag and then the way she looks into Ennis eye's when she places them gently into the bag...As a Mom I really felt strongly that she knew and she wanted him to find them.
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2006, 05:46:21 am »
I love the sadness that comprises her whole essence as a character.
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2006, 11:08:28 am »
I love how she kept the room as basically a shrine to her son. Left everything in it's place. Surely a small house like that, they could have found some other usage for Jack's room...

Instead, it gives Ennis  the opportunity to see Jack's world as when he is a boy. And I like the fact that she stands up to her husband in her own way... Her husband isn't particularly happy to see Ennis, but she tries to be comforting, offers him coffee and cherry pie.

I don't know if she knew what the shirts symbolized, but she knew they were important, some connection between her late son and some memorable aspect in his life.   Of course, she must have gone thru the closet after he died.  Usually ppl throw away stuff, but Jack had been dead only recently. Plus, I suppose it was her only son, so it makes it so  much harder to part with his stuff and all she has left is heartless John Twist.

Her facial expressions  says alot without her having to verbalize it.
Like, I wish my husband wasn't here right now, we could have a very long talk. 

Probably the only sympathy Ennis will ever get from anyone in his relationship with Jack and it's for such a short duration.   :-[
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2006, 11:10:26 am »
I love her for being a pentecoste. I don't know what one is or even if I spelled it correctly, but I love her for it nonetheless.
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Re: The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread - merged
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2006, 12:20:11 pm »
I love Jack's mom!

I love her compassionate spirit, her loving heart and her beautiful soul.  :angel:
 She was a good woman!
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2006, 04:32:56 pm »
taking lucises thought one step further  ;)

I love Jacks Mom's compassionate spirit, her loving heart and her beautiful soul because they created her wonderful, charming and passionate son.
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Re: The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread - merged
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2006, 05:52:19 pm »
I love the way she straightens herself, holds her sweater, when she goes out to meet Ennis.  Part nervous, part proud.
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2006, 10:12:59 pm »
I love everything Jack's Mom bcause she gave us Jack Twist.
The more I think of the joy of watching Jack be so "carefree" and giving, the more I think of how good his Mom must have been to him - to let him express himself so well, even if the world did not accept him.  I would love to have a piece of her cherry cake.


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Re: The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread - merged
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2006, 09:56:09 pm »
dear latjoreme

yes there really is a santa claus I mean "I love everything Jack's Mom" thread

It was burried on page 9

So I'm bumping it back to the forefront, seeing as IMDb doesn't take care of its own anymore

I Love Jack's Mom for saying so much in such a small amount of time
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Re: The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread - merged
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2006, 10:07:29 pm »
dear latjoreme

yes there really is a santa claus I mean "I love everything Jack's Mom" thread

It was burried on page 9

So I'm bumping it back to the forefront, seeing as IMDb doesn't take care of its own anymore

I Love Jack's Mom for saying so much in such a small amount of time

Care to comment about having this thread (and other "I love everything .." threads) moved to the BBM Games & Quizzes section? Hunh?!?

Hey thanks, Roboy!

I love Jack's mom for the way that, when she is saying goodbye to Ennis, she looks away, obviously pained, when her husband spits out that final, "Tell you what, he's going into the family plot." Clearly she can't stand it, but has to because she can't fix it. Still, she'll at least rebel by communicating her empathy to the heartbroken man who so obviously loved her son.

As to whether to move this thread and the other "I love everything" threads to the games and quizzes board -- I guess I'd say yes. Because there they wouldn't get lost as easily, and I love the "I love everything" threads! Thanks for resurrecting them!


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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2006, 10:46:48 am »
Yeah, uh, I was gonna say... Aguirre? Jimbo? Or not...

This thread is so sweet. I love Jack's Mom too because she opens her heart to a complete stranger who she knew her son loved very much.
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Re: The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread - merged
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2006, 03:06:29 pm »
 I love Jack's mom because she allowed herself to acknowledge and accept the relationship between her son and Ennis. As a Pentecostal woman-that was a couragous thing to do. I grew up in the Pentecostal church. Let me tell you, homosexuality is about the worst "sin" in their view. There are some wonderful aspects of the church. But tolerance is not one of them. My grandmother and my father were two of the most honest and decent people i have ever known. They tried to live the best life they could. They followed the Pentcostal dogma though. So sadly, they missed the experience of knowing people of many beliefs and walks of life-because those people didnt conform to the church's view of what was "right".
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Re: The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread - merged
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2006, 03:16:27 pm »
I love Jack's mom because she allowed herself to acknowledge and accept the relationship between her son and Ennis. As a Pentecostal woman-that was a couragous thing to do. I grew up in the Pentecostal church. Let me tell you, homosexuality is about the worst "sin" in their view. There are some wonderful aspects of the church. But tolerance is not one of them. My grandmother and my father were two of the most honest and decent people i have ever known. They tried to live the best life they could. They followed the Pentcostal dogma though. So sadly, they missed the experience of knowing people of many beliefs and walks of life-because those people didnt conform to the church's view of what was "right".

Thanks for adding that, Hopefulheart. That makes Jack's mom's understanding and kindness even more profound. I remember a previous thread pointing out how she is the portrayed as the most strongly religious and Christian person in the movie, and the only one who fully accepts their relationship. I'm neither strongly religious nor Christian, but I found that refreshing.
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Re: The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread - merged
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2006, 09:26:27 am »
I love Jack's Mom for giving us JACK (for Ennis)  :)
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« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2006, 12:47:01 pm »
I love Jacks mom because she showed how much she loved Jack by the way she treated Ennis that day.
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Re: The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread - merged
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2006, 06:16:42 pm »
Beautifully stated, Toast. And what a great way to look at that scene.
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« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2006, 09:58:51 pm »
Discussion related to Jack's mother who believed in the Pentecost (and Pentecostals) has been started by me here:

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?topic=1162.0
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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2006, 04:31:41 am »
I love Jack's Mom with her careworn face and her heart in her eyes....she seemed kind of sad and desperate when she asked Ennis if he would stop by again sometime to visit...of course, we all know Ennis never will. Can you imagine how much Jack's Mom would have loved it if the old man wasn't there and she could have had a long heart to heart talk with Ennis about her son? To see Mrs. Twist and Ennis alone at that table, hugging and crying... Breaks my heart to think about it.  :'(
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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2006, 12:19:55 pm »
While almost all of the younger generation and the right-wing fundamentalist Bible-thumpers want to call anyone who has a sexual relationship with a person of the same sex, "gay," instead of "homosexual" even if the person is in the closet. I would not have thought that Mrs. Twist would have even considered Ennis to have been her son-in-law or even gay.

I just think that since she "believed in the Pentecost," she also put into practice what Jesus and His disciples preached and what his disciples wrote, too. Believers in Jesus are supposed to offer hospitality to strangers because in doing so, they might be entertaining angels without being aware of it. Literally speaking, all of the Angels in the Bible's pages look like normal men with no wings (the heavenly creatures in the Bible with wings are NEVER called angels).

I say that the way that Mrs. Twist acted toward Ennis would have been similar to how my own mother, who was a Pentecostal, would have acted if I had been dead and a person, who had been my best friend in the way that Ennis was with Jack, showed up at her home and she had never known that I was gay. (But, my father was not anything like Mr. Twist at all; Dad was just as hospitable toward strangers and my friends as Mom was.) In 1983 and early 1984, my parents liked my best friend whom I visited with a lot and even stayed overnight in his home and they had no idea that our friendship began with a sexual encounter. They did not have a clue about my sexual orientation at that time.

I do like the way that Roberta Maxwell played the role as it was written for the movie and how she interpreted it personally, too. The taking of the shirts by Ennis and the paper sack provided by Mrs. Twist was a movie thing. That's not in the book at all. But, if Ennis was going to carry the shirts out in plain sight, it was logical that she would give him a sack to put them in.

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« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2006, 12:33:59 pm »
I believe that if Mr. Twist had not been there when Ennis showed up at the house on the ranch; she would have spent some time visiting with Ennis. I believe that she might have offered more solid food than cherry cake, and offered to fix him lunch instead.

While my own Pentecostal believing/practicing mother never met my partner/husband, Ed, in person, she did talk to him on the phone when I was not a home. She even visited with him that way before she found out that I was gay. Before finding out, she just thought I was living with a friend.

Speaking of father's here: Until after I went home for Christmas before I was out to them, Dad sometimes asked, "Are you still living with that man?" He did not mean that in a negative way. I flew back to Tulsa for Christmas in 1985 and Ed found out that Dad wore the same size of coat he did. Ed had a winter coat which was in good shape but too warm to wear in LA. He told me to take it with me and give it to my dad.

After I got to the folks from the airport, and got just a little settled, I took the coat out of a suitcase and gave it to Dad. I told him that was from Ed who wanted him to have it. Dad was so thankful that he had me dial our number because he wanted to talk to Ed. That was the 1st time he had talked to Ed; Dad was not the type to call people on the phone, although he would talk to callers. I heard Dad thank Ed for the coat and he said, "Ed, if you was here, I would hug your neck!"

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« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2006, 07:42:38 pm »
Interesting response and background, TJ.  I can understand and/or accept most of what U wrote except that Mrs. Twist could not know that her son Jack was Gay -- and he was and she knew it -- and then consider his boyfriend as "not Gay".  ???
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In the strictest sense of the word and what I know from my own experiences and from real people from the country and rural areas in the Central states of the USA and the gays whom I have met since I left the closet more than 22 years ago (I did live in the North Hollywood section of Los Angeles for almost 8 years - 1984--1992), I would say that Jack's parents would have only thought that Ennis had been Jack's best friend but not his boyfriend. As remote and isolated as the Twist ranch was at Lightning Flat in Crook County in the extreme NE corner of Wyoming, they might not have even known if any of their acquaintances or neighbors were even homosexual when they actually were.

In January 1992, before I moved back to Tulsa, I stayed with my friend, Richard, in Panorama City in the San Fernando Valley for 3 weeks. During one of those weeks, Richard's mother came for a visit from Amery, MA. While she knew that Richard was openly gay, she never knew that I was. While I slept in Richard's bedroom, I did not sleep in his bed. Richard had not lied about me when he had told his mother, his sister and his brother back in his home town about me to them. He just did not tell them things which they did no have a need to know. He told them in around April 1991 that he had become friends with a born-again Christian and he attended morning worship services with him on Sundays at the First Assembly of God in North Hollywood. I lived half a mile from the church and Richard rode the bus to there.

Because I was involved in a sort of "bar ministry" while being a member of the Spiritual Advisory Committee of AIDS Project Los Angeles (APLA) as an independent Pentecostal evangelist, Richard's mother only assumed that I had not gone to the same club that Richard had on the Friday night she was visiting and when she guessed that we just both happened to be on the same bus going home, Richard and I just let her believe that part to be true. I did not have to lie about my ministry; because I did visit with guys whom I knew had HIV/AIDS at the club (even though some of them did not even know I was a volunteer with APLA where they were clients -  but, they knew my late partner, Ed, got services from APLA before he died on March 2, 1991).

The last time that I talked to Richard's sister on the phone was about 4 years ago. From what I could tell by the way she talked, she still did not have a clue about my sexual orientation. Their mother, who was also Pentecostal, had gone on to be with the Lord. But, before I left Richard's in January 1992, she had asked me to inquire about Richard's relationship with the Christ. I did visit with him where he just volunteered information and he did assure me that he was saved and prayed, too. Richard took a day off from work to spend a special day with me and we went to a local park to enjoy the warm sunshine. I talked to her before I left town and told her how I knew he was also born-again.


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Re: The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2006, 12:55:02 pm »
Will-U, I am here at last  :P!

I personally love Mrs Twist because she was a compassionate, non-judgemental, loving woman who loved her son deeply.  Everyone would want to have a mother like her.  She clearly knew that her son was gay, but she didn't lash out or chastise him.  We know this because her actions speak louder than words.  The way she looked at Ennis, the way she touched his shoulder as if to alleviate the burden of his pain, the way she looked into his eyes when she said "You come back and see us again." - these gestures showed her deep respect for her son at moments when her husband had nothing but scorn to dish out. 

I love Mrs Twist because although she said so little, she spoke volumes to Ennis and to all of us!
She was a warm, kind, generous soul, and God bless her for it!  :)


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« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2006, 02:27:32 pm »
I love Mrs. Twist because she is the only one who understands Ennis's loss and tries to comfort him. 

Ennis said kind words to Lureen, and to the Twists (I knew him a long time; we was good friends, etc).  But, no one else in Ennis's life would know what Jack meant to him.  Not Alma, nor Alma Jr.

Her hand on his shoulder is one of the simple, moving moments in the film.

BTW, how did we learn her name is Mary?? Did I miss something?
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« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2006, 03:55:29 pm »
It's interesting how we can assume something about fictional people like Mrs. John C. Twist (or even other story characters) from a movie and "guess" exactly what they were supposed to have known and yet never met any person like the fictional character.

In the way that Roberta Maxwell described Jack's mother and how she played her, and add to that the fact that Jack's family ranch was way out in the middle of nowhere, and then, for myself, knowing country women who were definitely Practicing Pentecostals, I just have to say, "There was no way that Mary Twist knew what Jack's sexual orientation was. My own parents who were also Pentecostal had no idea that, Bill, my best friend in the early 1980s was bisexual (also heterosexually married) and that we slept together when I spent the night at Bill's house."

Oh, Bill's wife, Carolyn, and I were friends, sorta like brother and sister in our family of choice. She was exclusively heterosexual and she knew Bill's sexual orientation before she married him. She approved of my relationship with her husband. One time she told me, when he was not around to hear it, "Joe, I trust Bill with you; because when I know he's with you, he is not going to get into anykind of trouble."

My parents also like Carolyn and their children.

So, I will stick to my own personal opinion that Jack Twist's mother never knew Jack's and Ennis's sexual orientation and the Twists probably would not have known a homosexual if they had seen one.

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« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2006, 06:19:22 pm »
TJ, why is it that the only person here whom you allow to assume anything about these characters seems to be you?  Just wondering.

Read the first paragraph of what I wrote again!

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It's interesting how we can assume something about fictional people like Mrs. John C. Twist (or even other story characters) from a movie and "guess" exactly what they were supposed to have known and yet never met any person like the fictional character.

Notice the we! That includes me!

My personal opinion and I mean MY own opinion is not based on what is in the book but, about what Roberta Maxwell said about her role in the movie.

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« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2006, 09:11:59 pm »
I'm sure Mrs. Twist knew about her son's sexual orientation; speaking as a parent myself, I really always knew pretty much what was going on "behind the scenes" with both my daughters. Whether she accepted it or not only she knew. I also believe that, as a believer in the Pentecost, she put into practice what Christ taught; that is, that it wasn't for her or anyone else to judge her son--that task should be left to a higher power.
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« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2006, 11:16:53 pm »
I totally agree with you, DeeDee. Thanks for a nice post.
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« Reply #30 on: May 10, 2006, 11:54:50 pm »
Thanx, Barb, for also telling it like it is.  (Where's Leslie?  Send her over.)

Mrs. Mary Twist did everything but have it engraved on her forehead:  My son is Gay and I know it!  "Jackie" was Gay.  He was!  U noticed that when he went slaging in MeXico, he dint need a road map of the Gay alleys!  Mrs. Twist as a mother probably knew her son was G-A-Y from the time that Lil' Jackie was 5 or less.  BTW, your parents being Pentecostal has nada to do w/ BBM or this Board! 

And TJ, dont talk "fictional characters" or U really, IMUHO, dont belong here at all.  Next U'll be telling us that Mrs. Twist breathed air. 

In the way that I read Annie Proulx's original short story as published in books, Jack Twist NEVER went to Mexico. He only claimed that he did when Ennis asked him if he did.

I don't think that it is fair for people who live in big cities claim they know more than people who have actually lived around and with country people like those in the Annie Proulx story.

My parents did NOT know that I was homosexual or even gay until November 1988 and I was 46 at the time. They had no idea that some of my friends whom they liked very much were homosexual, too.

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« Reply #31 on: May 11, 2006, 01:54:00 pm »
For a thread with only 15 posts, but viewed 211 times, it’s not bad at all  :).

Ditto all the above reasons why we love Mrs Twit.

I love Mrs Twist because she is such a loving, caring and understanding mother. Had it not been her, Jack would not be the loving person with a big heart that we came to know, and there won’t be the story of Ennis and Jack.  Can you imagine Jack grew up with only the influence of the stud duck?

Mrs Twist is a great mother, and should be honored on the special day.  Happy mother’s day, Mrs Twist!
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Re: The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread - merged
« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2006, 12:58:20 am »
I love Mrs. Twist because, after watching the movie today, I am convinced she knows about Ennis' and Jack's relationship, and communicates her knowledge, and her sympathies, to Ennis. First there's the comforting hand on his shoulder, the suggestion he go up to the room, the nod in response to the shirts, the paper bag.

Then, as Ennis is going out the door, he nods thanks again for the shirts. They lock eyes -- he actually turns slightly in a very subtle double-take when he sees her expression -- and they hold that look for maybe an extra half a second. In that moment she is telling him she understands, and offering one last wordless gesture of comfort. And he gets it.


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« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2006, 12:29:26 am »
I love Jack's Mom because it's Mother's  Day, and she reminds me of my own Mom before her stroke, the gentleness, the knowing kindness in the eyes, the careworn face.  Except my MOM was a real firecracker...SHE would have SAID , "JOHN!......... Listen up old man" ..." give him the damn ashes!"   and that would have been the end of that.!  ;)

Lost my Mom 2 years ago last month miss her everyday...

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« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2006, 01:25:03 am »
Since the local time is after midnight, I can say that this is the first Mother's day when my mom is not around.

I posted it elsewhere, but, there was only one of those days when I was not able to talk to her and that was when I was in Vietnam.

As Roberta Maxwell claimed about Jack's mom, my mother was a Practicing Pentecostal, too.

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Re: The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread
« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2006, 11:01:20 am »
I love that Jack's Mom kept his room the way it was when he was a boy because she thought he'd appreciate that.
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Re: The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread
« Reply #36 on: May 25, 2006, 07:44:40 am »
I love the way she stands next to Jack after giving him some coffee.  Such a comforting thing to do as they both hear John Twist's hateful statements.  If they only had time alone!
Lean on me, let our hearts beat in time,
Feel strength from the hands that have held you so long.
Who cares where we go on this rugged old road
In a world that may say that we're wrong.

...Cause I know - A love that will never grow old.

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Re: The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread
« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2006, 01:52:57 pm »
I love Jack's mom because the way she comforts Ennis. Ennis paid his respects to Lureen and to Jack's parents, but apart from Jack's mum, no one acknowledged his grief.
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Re: The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread
« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2006, 03:13:01 am »
I love Jack's Mom with her careworn face and her heart in her eyes....she seemed kind of sad and desperate when she asked Ennis if he would stop by again sometime to visit...of course, we all know Ennis never will. Can you imagine how much Jack's Mom would have loved it if the old man wasn't there and she could have had a long heart to heart talk with Ennis about her son? To see Mrs. Twist and Ennis alone at that table, hugging and crying... Breaks my heart to think about it.  :'(

I like to think that Ennis did go back, perhaps to work the ranch in Jacks place after Mr Twist passed as his way of honoring Jack and the kindness his mother gave him. This is where he would have felt closest to Jack.
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Thank you Heath and Jake for showing us Ennis and Jack,  teaching us how much they loved one another.

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Re: The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread
« Reply #39 on: May 11, 2008, 09:36:00 pm »
I like to think that Ennis did go back, perhaps to work the ranch in Jacks place after Mr Twist passed as his way of honoring Jack and the kindness his mother gave him. This is where he would have felt closest to Jack.

That is so sweet, Mark! I came here to pay tribute to Ma Twist on Mother's Day, and your post made me smile and cry at the same time!
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Re: The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread
« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2008, 07:52:37 am »
I like to think that Ennis did go back, perhaps to work the ranch in Jacks place after Mr Twist passed as his way of honoring Jack and the kindness his mother gave him. This is where he would have felt closest to Jack.

In every viewing of the movie, I've thought that the look he gives her when she says "you'll come and see us again?" suggested that he might, especially after Jack's father has passed on.  As isolated as the Twist ranch was, it isn't likely that she'd have many people to talk to about Jack, and this is a woman who's lost her only son.

Beautiful idea about remembering Mrs. T on Mother's Day.  I'll have to think of some special observance to start next May.

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Re: The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread
« Reply #41 on: June 06, 2008, 12:15:19 am »
I love  her because as heartbroken as she nust have been,she still has the sensitivity to understand that Ennis is equally heartbroken.She loves her son enough to allow Enns to have the shirts,which probably for her were just as important,They had not been washed and contained the essecnce of her only son.That was truly a gift from the heart.
I also  love her for just letting OMT finish ,and then as if the whole diatribe had never happened turns to ask Ennis ,if he wants to see jack's room.In her own way she stands up to OMT.and softens the blow of his words.He is hate and she is love and love wins.

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Re: The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread
« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2008, 12:42:27 am »
I love Jack's mom because she is the type of mom that everyone should have.
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Re: The "I LOVE everything Jack's Mom" thread
« Reply #43 on: September 09, 2008, 02:20:51 am »
The posts about Roberta Maxwell, the actress who played Jack's mom in the movie, have been moved to their own thread here:

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,22585.new.html#new