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Re: How Do You Celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2006, 05:48:12 pm »
I love your Christmas stories. I especially love your memories Dot.  I love the present for your teacher story.

We came over from Ireland when I was a little girl. We were dirt poor. I don't think we celebrated christmas too much when I was little Just because we didnt have the money..  My memories of Christmas come in around the age of 8.  I remember that my dad cut a tree down and my mom (because she had a new job)  bought lights and a box of ornaments, iceicles for the tree. I remember feeling just like the other kids in school. Cause we were having Christmas. And I loved the tree so much. I couldn't stop looking at it. Fixing it, smelling it. And constantly watering it.

Anyways. Apparently my brother who was a year older was getting his own ideas. While we were sleeping ( while sugar plums danced..) All of a sudden there was a loud crash in the living room. Everybody jumped up and ran out. I was sure it was Santa. When my dad turned on the light there was my brother lying under the tree. he had knocked it down on top of himself. He also had opened what few presents we had and scattered them all over the floor. for instance. Someone got checkers, they were all over the place. Every present was open! What a mess. My mother and father were both so upset. Especially my mom because I think she was so happy about being able to do this for us. Making a real Christmas for us. Well I don't have to tell ya but.. boy did he get it!!

I remember not feeling so bad about the presents as I did about the tree. Although my younger brother had a tantrum,  I just loved that tree. And I felt bad that it would be the only one chance  the tree had to be a" Christmas tree" and my brother knocked it over. But we got the tree back up but a few of the lights were broken and almost all the ornaments were (all 6 of them I think).  I know it sounds so simple and silly now. But we tell that story every christmas. our kids love to hear it. "The year my brother ruined Christmas"   My brother still remembers the scare  he got when the tree fell on him. And the good spanking he got.  But he can't really explain to us why he did it.  But we all know. 

 So the best part of christmas for me is still the tree. it always reminds me of my first beautiful tree. And telling old childhood stories. And of course, making fun of my brother.
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Re: How Do You Celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2006, 12:25:26 am »
Dot, do you have any idea how beautiful this seems to somebody who grew up where we hardly ever had snow for Christmas--maybe once or twice in my childhood--once that I remember for sure, but that's southeastern Pennsylvania for you!

        I can remember going to the store one Christmas Eve and getting a pair of cowgirl boots. I must have been about 6 or 7 years old at the time. That was the only present frivolous present I had that year, but I didn't care. Just having a tree with lights was enough to make my brother and me happy.  I grew up on a small horse ranch in Montana and my Dad raised quarter horses for a while.  At Christmas he would hitch up this old sleigh if it wasn’t too cold and we would ride that the Church on Christmas Eve after dinner at Grandma’s house.  I always remember how warm and cozy it felt to come home in the sleigh piled high with blankets, singing carols.  Then coming around the bend in the road and seeing our house with the lights on and the lit tree in the window.  The house would be warm and snug and smell like the delicious things my Mother had been baking.

        One year times must have been really hard, because there weren't any store bought presents. My Dad made me a doll house and my brother a bookcase and Mom knitted us sweaters and made fudge and peppermint lollypops.  We always had a tree because my Dad and my brother would go out into the woods and just cut one.  I remember going to my Grandmother's house on Christmas Eve that year. Her tree was all decorated, and there were presents under it to all the family members. A short time later, my Mother told us she had to go home to get something she had forgotten. While she was gone, my brother and I decided we needed to put more presents under the tree, so we found some empty boxes and wrapping paper. We spent quite some time wrapping those boxes to put under the tree. In each box we would put a note promising a chore or some such thing, so it wouldn't be empty. When we came out to put the presents under the tree, boy did we get a surprise. Santa had been!!! There were toys and new clothes just for us. We knew Grandma had done, but we never said a word.

It's like a real Little House on the Prairie--and, believe me, I do NOT mean that comment in a snide way.

Anyway, most of my Christmas memories involve my mother; this year will be the eleventh Christmas without her. I was an only child, so I got spoiled rotten at Christmas, even though we were just ordinary working-class folks, living on my dad's factory salary, as my mother generally did not work outside the home when I was very small. It's embarrassing now to think of the money my parents wasted on some of the things Santa brought me.

On the other hand, some gifts were definitely not a waste of money, for example, my Marx "Fort Apache" play set (of course I wanted the largest version in the Sears catalogue that year!  :laugh: ), my Lincoln Logs, and the train set that the Tyco company issued that was intended to represent the train from Petticoat Junction. And I still have those presents, all from the mid-1960s, and I expect to keep them till the day I die!

One year the Marx company issued a playset based on The Flintstones--an entire miniature Bedrock in plastic, complete with figures of Fred and Wilma and Barney and Betty. I really wanted one of those playsets--a friend of mine already had one. My mother clearly managed to get the last set in town--it was the display model from one of the local stores! So I got the added benefit of having a display board to set up the town of Bedrock, complete with streets and sidewalks!

The Christmas tree always went up in early December and then came down on New Year's Day--no keeping it up till Epiphany in our house! Unfortunately, by about the mid-1960s, my mother began to get deathly sick every year--she was allergic to the scent of a "real" Christmas tree, and since she was in the house with it all day, there was no avoiding it. Luckily, by the time the doctor ruled that the tree had to go--we had gotten a beautiful Douglas fir that year--they had just invented the "green" artificial trees, the kind you could put lights on. I was terribly worried that we were going to have to get one of those aluminum trees with a color wheel, like my grandmother had--and I hated because you couldn't put lights on it. As far as I was concerned, a Christmas tree without lights on it just really isn't a Christmas tree! Those early model "green" artificial trees were downright ugly, but at least you could put lights on them!

When I was a small boy I also really liked to help my mother with the Christmas baking, and she always baked multiple batches of several varieties of cookies. Check out my mother's recipe for molasses cookies!  ;D  Also, Christmas dinner was usually baked ham. I remember my mother saying that a ham was less work--less time in the kitchen--than a turkey, and she wanted to be in the living room with me and my presents, not stuck in the kitchen.

With my mother and all my grandparents gone, Christmas is a pretty quiet affair these days. I've always loved the music of Christmas, and that's still the best part of the holiday for me. The climax of the holiday is really the church service on Christmas Eve. Christmas Day itself is actually sort of anticlimactic--though, over the past few years, my dad and I have been having very pleasant Christmas Days spent with some of his cousins. We will have Christmas dinner at the home of my second cousin and his wife this year, too.

I always set up a table-top model Christmas tree in my condo, and a couple of years ago I began setting up a model train layout on the table under the tree. I also set up a number of decorations that had been made by my grandmother. Once upon a time Grandma did ceramics for a hobby--she even had her own kiln. I now have a Nativity set that she made, and also a ceramic Christmas tree, and a little group of children in Victorian attire singing Christmas carols. Needless to say, these things hold great sentimental value for me.

Since I began participating in medieval and Renaissance historical re-enacting and re-creating, another important part of my Christmas season is our local group's annual "Yule Revel." This year's event takes place tomorrow (Dec. 2). We will all be decked out in our medieval or Renaissance best, and there will be period music played on period-style instruments by our group's Early Music ensemble--who are very good!--and then we will all sit down to a feast prepared from authentic period recipes and consisting only of foods available in Europe--nothing native to the New World.

I will also endeavor to make time for viewing my three favorite Christmas classics, all of which I have on tape: A Charlie Brown Christmas, How the Grinch Stole Christmas, and my personal favorite version of A Christmas Carol, the "Hallmark Hall of Fame" version with George C. Scott as Scrooge and a great, predominantly British supporting cast, Roger Rees, Edward Woodward, David Warner, and Susannah York, among others. And that's the Boris Karloff cartoon Grinch, by the way. I'm sorry, I will not see the Jim Carey movie, which I consider as totally unnecessary!  ;D No matter how old I get, Christmas just won't be Christmas without Charlie Brown and the Grinch! (God, am I child of the Sixties, or what?  ;D )

The only thing wrong with the Christmas season is that there is never enough time, never enough!  :D
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Re: How Do You Celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2006, 07:18:03 pm »
I'll tell you about my Christmas celebrations later. First, for our entertainment, some Christmas music!  :)


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Re: How Do You Celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2006, 11:37:06 pm »
That was really cute Anke! Thanks for posting "White Christmas" for us. This version had a nice tropical sound to it. I loved the bongo drums in the background!

Oh I wish you would tell us about Christmas in Germany! I am really hoping some of the BetterMost members from other countries will tell us how they celebrate Christmas in their countries. Melissa already told us how she celebrates the holidays in the Netherlands!  :D

Thanks for the great music Anke!  :)
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Re: How Do You Celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2006, 09:46:06 am »
Oh I wish you would tell us about Christmas in Germany! I am really hoping some of the BetterMost members from other countries will tell us how they celebrate Christmas in their countries.

Although I'm not Anke, your wish is my command  :)

In Germany, the most important day of Christmas is Christimas Eve. At least for the children, because that's when Christ Child brings the presents (in the evening, after dinner and/or church). Being heavily influenced by American culture, in many families Santa Clause is the one who brings the presents and Santa Clause is to be seen everywhere in shopping malls, TV, adverdisements, etc.

In my family, Santa and Christ Child are doing the business of spreading the presents together. It's a compromise.

The Christmas tree is usually set up at Dec. 22nd or 23rd. The whole family does it together, everybody is allowed to help, not matter how little/young. Every year some Christmas ball onaments are broken and our Christmas tree is not 'beautiful' in an aesthetic sense. Often the ornaments are spread in a unbalanced way (one side overloaded, the other almost naked). But it is beautiful to us because it is ours and we did it together. Maybe you can guess I was never allowed to help decorating the (artificial plastic) Christmas tree when I was a child. My mother always did it alone, because she wanted a beautiful, perfectly decorated tree.

The morning of Christmas Eve is usually very busy. Last shoppings are done. No christmas shopping, though. Just the regular stuff like groceries because all shops are closed from Christmas Eve noon to Dec. 27th.

In the afternoon I have to do a long drive to pick up a former neighbour of mine, who is a kind of 'grandmother' to my children. Meanwhile my husband stays with the children at home. When we are back, we have a short coffee break, then get ready for church. The 'grandmother', my children and I go to church. My husband stays at home, prepares the Christmas meal and places the presents under the Christmas tree. Then he covers the keyhole with a piece of paper from the inside of the living room door and locks the room.

After church, we are eating and waiting for Christ Child to ring the bell. That's the sign that Christ Child and Santa have brought the presents and are right then leaving the room.
Yesterday my second child asked me, why the bell always rings when daddy is at the toilet? I asked back, if she really wants me to answer this question and she said "No"  ;D We had the same conversation the past two years. She knows there's no Santa and no Christ Child, but she wants to believe in them.

Then everybody unwraps his presents and the children and we play the rest of the evening. They are allowed to stay up much longer than usual. After they are finally in bed, we three adults sit together, chatting until we're tired. Then my husband has to do the driving to bring grandmother back to her home. She doesn't want to stay overnight, although we have two guest rooms. But elderly people are sometimes like this. She wants to sleep in her own bed. *shrugs*

The next day the children play all morning with their presents (and watch some TV) and we meet at noon at my parents in law's place with all members of my husband's family (14 people).
In the afternoon we go to visit my family (the part of my family I always felt at home with). There we are 16 family members and mostly some guests, too.
We spend the rest of the day there and when we finally drive home late, we're all beat.

At the 26th we have to visit my mother. She has dementia and lives in a nursing home. Since I was never close to this woman, it is a duty, not a joy (and a very long drive).
After that we sometimes visit my very best friend and her family. Sometimes we don't manage it (because she has many relatives to visit, too). Therefore my friend and I invented a special day, the "Third Christmas Holiday". In Germany the days of Christmas are called Christmas Eve (=24th), First Christmas Holiday (25th) and Second Christmas Holiday (26th). And my friend and me have a Third Christmas Holiday  ;D

Our Christmas is always busy, loud and fun. I love being toghether with all the people who have a place in my heart. I'm thankful that I have such a big family.

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Re: How Do You Celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2006, 01:33:20 pm »
Chrissi, thanks for posting this.  I enjoyed it very much.  I especially was inspired by how you took what was not a very happy time for you as a child, and transformed it in to a positive, special time for yourself and your own children, adapting it all to what works for you, i.e. Third Christmas Holiday.

I cannot imagine a single store in America being closed from the afternoon of the 24th, to the 27th.  That sounds kind of cozy.

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Re: How Do You Celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2006, 03:10:05 pm »
Thank You Chrissi for telling us about Christmas in Germany!

I think it is very interesting to read and hear how people in other countries celebrate Christmas. I was really interested in reading about how the Christ Child delivers the presents in Germany. I also like how people in Germany stretch Christmas out over several days. Unfortunately here in the US, Christmas is often over as soon as the last present has been opened. I wish we would continue to celebrate Christmas for two or three days, like you all do in Germany.

I remember someone telling me that Christmas is actually 12 days long, and Christmas day is only the first day of Christmas. I suppose this is why someone wrote the song "The Twelve Days of Christmas". But Americans seem to forget about all of that, and we tend to cram the 12 days of Christmas into a couple of hours, and then it is over until next year. I'm glad this is not the case in Germany.

Thanks again for your post Chrissi!  :D
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Re: How Do You Celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2006, 03:40:02 pm »
Geri, I didn't know you were from Ireland!  :D

I remember you told me you were born in London. You do look very Irish though (at least you do in your picture). Do you include any Irish Christmas customs in your holiday celebrations?

That was a beautiful story about your childhood Christmas tree. Oh, I feel so sorry for your brother. His curiosity got the best of him, didn't it? My cat Oreo feels compelled to climb my Christmas tree. He knocked it over last year. He will lay under the tree off and on for several days until he works up enough bravery to climb up it. He will only get about half way up the tree though, then his weight will shift the tree and it will fall over. I watched him do it last year, but by the time I caught him it was too late. The tree was already on its way down.

I haven't put my Christmas tree up yet this year. But I'm sure he will try and do it again sooner or later. He's very curious.  :)
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Re: How Do You Celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2006, 04:09:57 pm »
David~

 You are right, I was born in London England. It was a pit stop for my parents before coming to the US.  They were born and raised in Dublin Ireland. They left Ireland to look for better jobs at the time. My aunt met someone who was in the US Airforce and was stationed in NY. She moved here first and my parents followed with us kids.
Maybe they were not really prepared to come here, and found it more difficult at first then they planned on.

We really don't have any Irish customs besides drinking and fighting alot on the holidays!  Just kidding David!   My father came from a family of eleven children and I don't think they had enough money to follow or make too many customs.

  We  used to go to midnight mass every year. i really enjoyed that, but now they dont have it in my town anymore. Seeing we don't have alot of relatives here we don't have big family gatherings .. And now with both mom and dad gone I really don't know what everrybodys doing this year. I do know a first cousin from Dublin is coming the day after christmas. So that will be nice!

My cat Ricky never bothers with the tree.   he lays under it but he doesn't try climbing it. This is his third christmas tree and I was worried at first he would , but he hasn't yet.  :) but we do get him presents and wrap them .He opens them with us on Christmas Eve.
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Re: How Do You Celebrate Christmas?
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2006, 05:03:07 pm »

I think it is very interesting to read and hear how people in other countries celebrate Christmas.

Yes, I also love the Christmas stories from all of you. Keep them coming.


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I was really interested in reading about how the Christ Child delivers the presents in Germany. I also like how people in Germany stretch Christmas out over several days. Unfortunately here in the US, Christmas is often over as soon as the last present has been opened. I wish we would continue to celebrate Christmas for two or three days, like you all do in Germany.

We also have traditions for the weeks before Christmas (Advent time). I just posted about our first Advent on another thread. It's here:
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?topic=6112.msg123914#msg123914


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I remember someone telling me that Christmas is actually 12 days long, and Christmas day is only the first day of Christmas. I suppose this is why someone wrote the song "The Twelve Days of Christmas". But Americans seem to forget about all of that, and we tend to cram the 12 days of Christmas into a couple of hours, and then it is over until next year. I'm glad this is not the case in Germany.

I never heard about Christmas being 12 days. For me it always has been three days. Better than one day anyway. One day is much too short for Christmas  :o.

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Thanks again for your post Chrissi!  :D

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