NEw movie for Jake. He's playing Billy Batson,

[sparklemotion]

I wonder if we all would 100% agree that Jake would be Robin and Heath would be Batman?  It seems like the natural fit. 

Doesn't seem so natural to me.  Like I said above, Jake is not just sidekick.  I don't like this way of making Jake less than Heath.  Robin is not so much of a hero.  It just continues the thinking of Jack as less manly than Ennis, or Jake as less masculine as Heath. 

For myself, I wouldn't wish Jake to be a cartoon at all.

[David]

The reason I suggested Heath as Batman and Jake as Robin was not to put Jake as second banana.  Heath plays the strong silent type well.    And I think we'd all like to see Jake play an adoring Robin who not only fights crime with Batman, but perhaps longs for something more....

[brokebackjack]

Never posted before, but I saw on a bunch of other sites that this rumor has been shot down by the writer of the Captain Marvel movie.  He says no one has been considered yet.  That Jake G's name would be on any list but that there's no list. 

Also, why would Jake be Robin?  I don't see him as Heath, or anyone's sidekick.

Jake's ALWAYS played the sidekick, always. Never the lead. And that's by his own admission.

In Toadiac the lead was Todiac. In BBM the lead was HL , and the mountain. In Donnie Darko the lead was a 6 foot bunny rabbit. In proofs, the lead was Gwyneth Paltrow or whatever her name is.

[sparklemotion]

Jarhead. Lead.  October Sky - Lead.  Bubble Boy - Lead.  Moonlight Mile - Lead.

Also, Jack was not Ennis' sidekick.  Heath and Jake were co-leads, split into different ca4egories for awards possibilities.

Also, Jake WAS the lead in Donnie Darko, not the rabbit.  Not sure if you're just using sarcasm here.

[brokebackjack]

Bubble Boy , well, OK,but who cares, he was a kid...and Oct Sky was perhaps practice,there too  he was a kid. Jarhead, no, that was an ensemble. And in  BBM while his character was as important as HL's  it was not Jack's story, it was Ennis' story.

Jake himself has said he has never been lead. And IMO Brokeback is the closest he's ever come; Ennis character was the primary, cast first. Whoever was cast second supported HL.

And if you think I don't like Jake look at my avatar lololool. Better yet come to Estes, I will YEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAW for ya !!!

This kid has the best planned career in Hollywood, every role has stretched his abilities, every role is different and with every role he comes closer to being able to carry an entire film.

[sparklemotion]

I don't say you don't like Jake.  But I don't share your opinion.  Jake was the lead in Jarhead - every story/critique talked about him as the lead.  Almost every movie is an ensmble of sorts.  But Jake was the lead in Jarhead.  And in October Sky and Bubble Boy and Moonlight Mile. 

Even if you don't think Jack was co-lead in Brokeback, he was not a sidekick, for certain.  If you're going by whose story a movie is, Jarhead was Jake's; Donnie Darko was Jake's.  Bubble Boy, October Sky and Moonlights Mile are Jake's.

So what I meant was there is no reason to think of Jake as Robin to Heath as Batman.  Jake's not a sidekick; he's a lead actor.

[brokebackjack]

Sidekick isn't how I'd describe him, at all. Yet when he himself said he hasn't played a 'real' lead you have to listen. Right now he can't 'carry' traditional heavy leads--the Sean Connery-George Clooney sort of thing. Look at all his roles except for the bubble thing [lol]--he's not in the center, he's off ever so slightly to the side of that center. Even in Jarhead... He's a fine actor who grows with every role and is in line for a remarkable career, just like HL--who may well turn out as the finest actor of his generation. Even his father said as much.

Jake's just 26. For a 26 year old actor to have done so well, so beautifully and yes so BRILLIANTLY in some of those roles is amazing. He has chosen wisely and well...when he can handle those traditional 'leads' he will and I damned well hope he gets the Oscar they robbed from him in BBM. I hope I get to see him on stage sometime soon, rather then a film, I'd fly to NY to see it. He's better on stage then on film and THAT says an enormous amount about his potential.

[sparklemotion]

What is this quote you keep saying, about not being a real lead?  I've never seen it.

[delalluvia]

Gag.  I hope the role doesn't pan out.  If he has to play a superhero I suggest something out of the X-Men.  Wolverine is going to have his own spin-off movie series, I hear.

What about Heath and Jake in a new Robin Hood?  Jake can play Robin and Heath Will Scarlett.

[brokebackjack]

The exact words weren't 'real lead' it was more along the lines of carrying an entire film. I'll go through what I have and see if I saved it.

Don't for a minute think I'm remotely dumping on Jakey, as in even remotely. I agreed with what his father said last month  about abilities, and 'training himself'. That kid is training himself to be able to use what's inside him, and I think we just got a GLIMPSE of what he's capable of in Brokeback..