Like I, you want a Brokeback Mountain II, yes a second film??

[Artiste]

Like I, you want a Brokeback Mountain II, yes a second film??

[Artiste]

I am really surprised that no one replied yet to this easy question or subject!!

Why?

Hugs to all!

[David]

A sequel?    "Beyond Brokeback"  perhaps?

What could it be about?        Ennis goes to Texas to find Jacks Murderers?      Along the way he finds himself?       That would be pretty cool.    But I'd want all the same cast members to be in it.    Jake would have to return for flashback scenes.       We'd  of course need Ann Hathaway to play Jacks widow.    Maybe Ennis would meet L.D.Newsome too.

[Artiste]

Thanks two of you for replying!!

Since I saw the questions by Ross In Illinois first, I will answer that firstly!


Firstly: Indeed it is my dream to have done or to do another Brokeback Mountain film,
especially a two hour one!! Can that be possible??

Secondly: I do not know if that title could be used?? You know that??

Thirdly: To me, it could very well be ANOTHER Brokeback Mountain,
because I do not think that that story is finished; far from it!!

As to these questions you ask and others, I will try to answer later.

For now, awaiting your answers, expressions, desires, etc.; as you please;
and, are you in the film industry?

Hugs!

[Artiste]

Thanks DavidnHartford for your reply.



It could be very well a sequel like Brokeback Mountain II!!

However, I would NOT want the same actors, not all; if so, then there would be changes, many!!

Enjoying your comments. And will add more later... my thoughts, if I may on them!!

Any other ideas which are great from you? From others too??

Hugs!

[BBM-Cat]

Maybe a sequel could work if they showed us the deleted footage in flashback scenes.....perhaps focusing on the sad life of Ennis after Jack? But that would be so depressing. IMO, there will never be a movie as great as BBM, a sequel would be a stretch and might ruin the phenomenal impact of the original, as well as stray from the intent of the author AP who asserts that a story is not finished but lives on in the minds of the readers (or viewers)....(I'm paraphrasing her famous quote here).

[Artiste]

Thanks BBM-Cat2006!

Your comment:
Maybe a sequel could work if they showed us the deleted footage in flashback scenes.....perhaps focusing on the sad life of Ennis after Jack? But that would be so depressing. IMO, there will never be a movie as great as BBM, a sequel would be a stretch and might ruin the phenomenal impact of the original, as well as stray from the intent of the author AP who asserts that a story is not finished but lives on in the minds of the readers (or viewers)....(I'm paraphrasing her famous quote here).
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I am glad about your comment!! Indeed a sequel could show the sad life of Ennis, after Jack's death, much more!!  Does that have to be ONLY a sad one?? And, for many years after Jack's death??
Could he not find ANOTHER Jack, maybe??

Indeed flashback scenes could enrich the movie and/or the story!! Even with deleted footage, as you say!!
And added new footage??

Of course, there could never be another equal likely to this First Brokeback Mountain movie and/or book!!
However, sequels are sometimes interesting too!! Plus, at times, enriching the story?? As there are a great many puzzles in this story/movie, and some could maybe be solved; hopefully not all!!

A sequel does NOT NEED to stray away the original intent of Annie Proulx!!

As she (Annie) says, the story will be not finished in the minds of the readers!! I say the same about a sequel!!

Any other ideas?

Hugs!!

[brokebackjack]

I can't see the point. For what reason? sequels almost never live up to the original in either content or style or interest. And what would it say???

If as, Diana ossama once said in an interview that she thought AP had written a story about Ennis, after Jack, for HERSELF.... we will not see such a thing until there is a posthumous collection. I for one would rather she lives many many years lolol.

What would a sequel actually have to SAY?

I can't see the point and don't want one. You can't remake a masterpiece.

IMO

[Artiste]

Thanks brokebackjack!1

It is true that you can NOT remake a masterpiece. I know that when I create a painting: I can NOT remake it!!

However, sometimes I make a serie or series, similar paintings. In making a serie, I usually make them very similar, indeed from 2 to 7, usually!
Even in a serie, there can be one or more which becomes too one or more materpieces!! That I know too!!

I do think that Brokeback Mountain  needs a sequel and/or be made like a serie!! One reason, is that this story speaks in wondrous levels of humanity... so many of them!!

There are many things that could be included in a remake, sequel and/or a serie. Wonderful themes... that they are and should or must be addressed much more, even to add some!!

We remain very lonely seeing or reading this story, yes?? We need more... to help us out!!

Any ideas, etc.,

awaiting your news,

hugs!!

[brokebackjack]

well the whole point of Brokeback is emotional devastation. You know that. I don't think I'd like a tv series at all, it would be studio BS. And I'll stick with what we got...

[louisev]

A sequel?    "Beyond Brokeback"  perhaps?

What could it be about?        Ennis goes to Texas to find Jacks Murderers?      Along the way he finds himself?       That would be pretty cool.    But I'd want all the same cast members to be in it.    Jake would have to return for flashback scenes.       We'd  of course need Ann Hathaway to play Jacks widow.    Maybe Ennis would meet L.D.Newsome too.

or maybe, he meets someone who falls in love with him who, wanting to do the right thing for the man who lost the love of his life, goes to Texas to find out what really happened to Jack... and ...

hold on.  This is starting to sound way familiar David.

[Artiste]

Thanks louisev!!

If Ennis goes to find Jack's murderers, that could be so??

Many scenes, even a serie of scenes.

Would that be devastating to Ennis; to viewers??

Hugs!!

[Artiste]

Thanks brokenbackjack!!

Ennis's feeling are affected by Jack's death!!

And yes as you say:
whole point of Brokeback is emotional devastation
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I agree with you. However, the devastation continues.... yes?? For Ennis!! For us, viewers too!!
Ever since my gay partner was killed by his MD in a hospital, because my gay partner was a chrsitian/and or jewish and because my gay partner was a gay man; this continues to devastate me too!! Like Eniss is sad!!

Ennis is in turmoil, since Jack's death!!

So a sequel, or remake, or a serie, seems nescessary for me. Somehow. And Ennis could seek those who killed Jack??

hugs!!

[HerrKaiser]

well the whole point of Brokeback is emotional devastation. You know that.

Wow. I'm as much or more of a BBM officianando than anyone, and I never got that the whole point of it was emotional devastation. Conversely, it is an opening, a realization, an affirmation. The net net is uplifting. If the point of the story was devastation, Lee failed in his work imo.

[Artiste]

Thanks HerrKaiser!!

More I read, the more I have a tendency to think like you do as you say this:
Wow. I'm as much or more of a BBM officianando than anyone, and I never got that the whole point of it was emotional devastation. Conversely, it is an opening, a realization, an affirmation. The net net is uplifting. If the point of the story was devastation, Lee failed in his work imo.
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Wow, wow!! I do think that Lee did fail in some points... if I can read you right!! ??
That would be one reason that I want a remake?

How??

Hugs!!

 
 

[brokebackjack]

Wow. I'm as much or more of a BBM officianando than anyone, and I never got that the whole point of it was emotional devastation. Conversely, it is an opening, a realization, an affirmation. The net net is uplifting. If the point of the story was devastation, Lee failed in his work imo.

I saw that film and was emotionally clobbered.
Read the short story and was devastated.
It's about the destruction and total devastation caused on the two main characters and everyone they are close to by rural homophobia, and that's the stated message of both director, author, and screenplay adaptors.

AND I agree with you; NOBODY but a truly morbid soul would stay as obsessed as we all are if it was a complete downer: this is Brokeback Mountain, not The Bell Jar lolol!!! Thing is, both the film and the SS are masterpieces, they inspire you to treasure the story, the characters breathed even for their creator.

I was clobbered, and it made me think, made me change direction, small step by small step. Like great art is supposed to do, BBM affected every single one of us. I don't feel clobbered any more when I watch Brokeback. Reading it can be rough, but it's effect is uplifting, the beauty is indescribable.....I'm still obsessed;  even when this obsession passes I hope the effects and the memory and the great friends gained DON'T.

[Artiste]

Thanks brokebackjack!!

You say this:
I was clobbered, and it made me think, made me change direction, small step by small step. Like great art is supposed to do, BBM affected every single one of us. I don't feel clobbered any more when I watch Brokeback. Reading it can be rough, but it's effect is uplifting, the beauty is indescribable.....I'm still obsessed;  even when this obsession passes I hope the effects and the memory and the great friends gained DON'T.
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May I say the same. I will describe that to you if you like?
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I do also think like HerrKaiser who says:
If the point of the story was devastation, Lee failed in his work imo.
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I take the stand that Lee did do good, as well as could have done better.
Because of that and for many reasons, I think a retake,  and/ora second film, and/or even a serie, will be great!!!

What do you think?

Hugs!!

[RossInIllinois]

Broke Back Mountain 2   Naaaa... only if they are Drag Queens would a second BBM movie work for me. 

[Artiste]

Thanks RossInIllinois!

Drag queens in the II?? Wow, wow!!

Would that be Ennis or Jack being one??

Wanting one?? Or in their dreams??

Hugs!!

[Artiste]

For a second film, I would want one, two or more actors to be real gay males.

There is a difference, I say!!

What do you say?

Hugs!

[Artiste]

I am finding more and more ways to make a II, yes!! Or even a serie!!

You have any ideas??

HUGS!!

[brokebackjack]

hell, what we had was good enough as it is.

[Artiste]

Thanks brokebackjack!

You say this:
hell, what we had was good enough as it is.
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And may I say this:
Since you using the word hell,
that is one reason that either a remake, another or a serie, should be made;
because this film is not enough!! It is too much HELL!!
It also remains TOO MUCH violent, and too lacking in many ways, I say!!

I suggest that it could but must be done, if possible!!
Not necessarily be re-done!! Discussion could also make it much better,
as a II, re-make, another, and/or a serie !! And for many reasons!

That does not mean that the first film would not remain a classic!!

There is too much hell in it!! ??

For you too there is too much hell in it??


Hugs!!

[brokebackjack]

Well, I just used an expression.

I think what we have is perfect.

It had the intended effect.

To "remake" it on a happy basis would turn one of the most tragic love stories of all time, in the English language, into another Hollywood feel good film.

You HAVE to read the short story. I THINK Annie Proulx translated it into French herself, not sure about that. But if she did-- unlike many translations--you will get the original story.

[Artiste]

Thanksbrokebackjack!

You say this:
To "remake" it on a happy basis would turn one of the most tragic love stories of all time, in the English language, into another Hollywood feel good film.
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May I say this by replying:
I agree with you that it is a good film. I want it to be better... if possible.

For many reasons!!

Hugs!

[Artiste]

I get he feeling that people fear another BM film??

What do you think??

Hugs!!

[brokebackjack]

I don't fear it, just see no point in it. The original was a brilliant adaptation of the short story. New material would be simply made up, the hollywood studios would add all sorts of crap and destroy it. What more would be added by remaking the story?

[Artiste]

Thanks brokebackjack!

There are also many other reasons, for continuation of the BBM!! And here is one:

Ok, the original is brilliant! Can't a remake, or a second, or a serie be brilliant too!! ??
I say that it can be.

Of course, Hollywood could overpower it with crap and destroy it, but they did not the First, since  they refrained from doing it, because it was to them a homosexual story, likely for that only reason!! Could be that Hollywood could turn it into a porno!! ?? I do not want a porno, as I am asking for better or equal to the First!! For example, when you look at twins, each have their own charator and yet are alike!! ?? Right?? A twin movie of BBM could very well be possible!! ??



Hugs!!

[brokebackjack]

There3 IS apparently a porno.

It's called Bareback Mountain or something like that, and supposedly has muscular young guys with Big Harmonica's wandering about a mountain in cowboy hats.

[Artiste]

I am not asking for a porno.

The movie already has (somewhat) elements of porno... men and woman.

Another reason for remake, another film, and/or a serie would be because the subject of violence to gay men is so strong, that it needs furtherly to be worked on, so to prevent it??

Hugs!

[brokebackjack]

If you go to the threads where we are discussing the various scripts, you will see that it  was difficult enough t5 make BBM without having all sorts of idiocies added onto the script by James Schamus. They had to shoot the hippy scene--knowing it would not be used--because he wrote it. JUST TO PLACATE HIM.

My friend, I feel we were lucky. And yes I know you want a remake. But that is why I do not. If it was done again, the studio would add all sorts of awful bullshit.

{How does one say Bullshit --a la francaise--anyway???}

I hope you come to the BBQ artiste. I would love to meet you!

[Artiste]

Thanks brokebackjack!

You say much, including that you do not want the next: studio (which maybe) would add all sorts of awful bullshit in a remake!
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To your comment, I say that much bullshits could very well happen. May I add that I do not want any bullshit.
I feel that there is enough bullshit already in this first one, may I say! Same and/or another studio, could think of NOT adding any bullshit, in an remake!!

..... May I ask you what hippy scene James Schamus had written? Please describe that... detailed it.
Or do you mean instead of the word hippy, you wanted to add: HAPPY ??

If I was the writer, script writer, and/or the studio: because the movie is so violent, so dramatic, so sad, I would even add another HAPPY scene in a remake!!

Awaiting your news from you and all,

hugs!!

[loneleeb3]

Absolutely not.
What could be accomplished.
Showing Ennis living as an old man who dies broken and lonely?
I couldn't bear to see him with anyone but Jack and he wouldn't want to be with anyone but Jack.
That was kinda the whole point of the movie. There was one man for Ennis, one shot at happiness and he let it slip away because of his own fears.
No, nothing would ever compare.

[Artiste]

Thanks loneleeb3 !

You bring up a good subject: Ennis would be older and older in a remake, another movie and/or a serie.

May I say: maybe that would be so!

And gay men do grow old too?? !! Hope, we do!! Otherwise, this movie would just remain like a porno, in way? Or just a romance? Or just a tragedy?  Too much, it is of tragedies, I say!!

The movie may show the love story, but, may I say that that is not all of it!! And, a remake, another film, and/or a serie, would be beneficial in many ways!! Why should we limit ourselves to only one so-called gay movie when straights have inummerable ones??


Much could be accomplished, I say! Think of some?

Hugs!

[brokebackjack]

Brokeback is a bit like a Renaissance painting: priceless and not to be tampered with. If you tried, you couldn't do it again.

It's like Mona Lisa: she's been painted.

[Artiste]

Thanks brkenbackjack !

I agree with you that some old paintings are timeless.

Some new ones becomes so too, like Annie's story!

I repeat new ones can be made too... as I create duos,
even bigger as a serie (up to seven at times), doing my paintings on canvas.
Most times duos of mine are materspieces! I feel therefore, that that BM
movie, one similar to it can be made like a duo!

Not only can, but even must be created, for many, many reasons!

I like always your comments, and that of all too,

hugs!!

[brokebackjack]

Ah, now I understand your name: "Artiste"!!

What is your style?

[Artiste]

Thanks brokebackjack !

You are asking me:
What is your style?
...................................................

May I ask you to guess that?

To detail that, like details of landscapes, Still Lifes, abstracts, realism, etc; as I think you know about art??
Your guessing will be interesting to me, since you are a cameraman!! You have an eye?? !!

Whic colours do you think I create?? My palette??

Hugs!!

[brokebackjack]

I'm no cameraman!

[Artiste]

Thanks brokebackjack!

Oh, you sure are like a cameraman, may I say!

You do have an eye on what is a good film!!

If you were to make another, how would you do it??

Hugs!

[delalluvia]

No, I wouldn't want a sequel to BBM anymore than I would want a sequel to 'Romeo and Juliet'.  Some movies say what they intend to say and that's enough.

[Artiste]

Thanks delalluvia!

Would you see such a sequel, if that was made?

Hugs!

[delalluvia]

Thanks delalluvia!

Would you see such a sequel, if that was made?

Hugs!

No.  It would be like trying to add on to perfection.  Some things are signposts in life and this movie is one of them.

I have this personal quirk, if I think a movie/book/TV character has been through enough and there is a satisfying stopping point, I stop watching/reading/following the character.  To  me, this chosen point is where the characters' story ended and they disappeared into history.

One book series I loved is now at 7 volumes.  I thought the characters suffered enough, had a happy landing at the end of book 3 and stopped reading.  One movie series I loved I stopped watching at movie 2,  The characters had suffered enough and deserved a happy ending.

[Artiste]

Thanks delalluvia!

I can understand what you say. And accept that too!! And I do not want that neither! I prefer news!

However, if something is perfection... that is impossble, because we can only aim at that! Therefore, one remake, another movie or a serie, is needed. That does not mean that the main charactors need to be badly done! There are more positive points to Ennis and Jack that need to be presented, I feel!!

The film is too sad, so far!! And too abrupt!!

Plus, the violence is way too  much!! Even that needs to be addressed, you know?

Awaiting you news,

hugs!!

[ghent]

I don't want a Brokeback II. The most important character died. What's the point?  If there's a sequel, it should mirror the fanfic 'Once Was Lost'. 

[Artiste]

Thanks ghent!!

The film is NOT that good!! In many ways, it could be better. Even if it can be considered already a classic!!

The main character died, yes, but how? Killed because he was a gay man?? That is one reason, for a sequel!
Plenty of other reasons too!!

You guessing of some??

Hugs!!

[ghent]

Absolutely not. What could be accomplished. Showing Ennis living as an old man who dies broken and lonely? I couldn't bear to see him with anyone but Jack and he wouldn't want to be with anyone but Jack.

Actually, I think that the biggest problem with this movie is that it overstates the significance of the J/E relationship. I don't think that Ennis was the love of Jack's life.  Annie Proulx probably killed off Jack not because she wanted to highlight the tragic 'Romeo and Juliet' quality of the film, but because that is the standard formula for many short stories/movies about gays : someone has to die, usually the gayest one.

The tragedy of the story is that Jack spent his life chasing a hopelessly dysfunctional, maddeningly incurious, pathologically hypocritical, psychosexually confused straight man who believed that his infrequent couplings with Jack were nothing more than the the libidinous equivalent of a bad toothache that he couldn't get rid of. The tragedy of this story is that Jack wasted his life chasing after a lost cause, not that Jack and Ennis were never allowed to spend their lives together.

Ennis was as dead and lifeless as a man as the prairie landscape he surrounded himself with. That Jack spent his life chasing after someone so completely incapable of giving love in a healthy manner to anyone is truly tragic.

The Jack Twist character was so courageous and forward thinking. The only mistakes he made were that he fell in love with the wrong person (Ennis) and married the wrong person (Lureen). He should have moved to a more progressive rural community, settled down and left Ennis behind.

If Ennis had died (and he was already dead man walking) and Jack had lived, then I'd be the first person in line for a sequel because then we'd have a chance to see a gay life truly lived.

With my post-Stonewall sensibility, I have absolutely no interest in the Ennises of the world.

Thanks ghent!!

The film is NOT that good!! In many ways, it could be better. Even if it can be considered already a classic!!

The main character died, yes, but how? Killed because he was a gay man??

Yes, and in the eyes of many heterosexuals, early death is the ultimate end for gay men, through a tire iron, alchohol poisoning or AIDS. Take your pick. The implicit message is that Ennis didn't die because he wasn't truly gay. I don't need a sequel to get the point.

[Artiste]

[Thanks/b] ghent!

It is very revealing what you say! Very much so!!

Because too many so-called straights in society  (not all but too many) want us gay men dead before our time, that is one reason I want another film so that it be shown we are truly humans and do not derserve such murderings just because we are homosexuals!!

What do you say to that?? Or any other idea??

Hugs!

[brokebackjack]

Artiste, mon ami, I have not posted for weeks, since before the bbq. How are you?

Your artists's eye would have fallen in love with Wyoming...

[Clyde-B]

  Annie Proulx probably killed off Jack not because she wanted to highlight the tragic 'Romeo and Juliet' quality of the film, but because that is the standard formula for many short stories/movies about gays : someone has to die, usually the gayest one.

In a way yes and in a way no.

The forbidden love genre has one or both of the lovers paying a high price for violating society's norms.

But Annie Proulx has taken that genre and stood it on its head.  Jack didn't die for societal reasons.  Jack died so that Ennis would find the shirts and come to realize that not only had he loved Jack, but Jack had loved him in return.

People don't leave this movie secure in the knowledge that this is the way things should be.  People leave the movie asking "Why did this have to happen?"

Annie has used the forbidden love formula to move us into the romance genre.

[brokebackjack]

In a way yes and in a way no.

The forbidden love genre has one or both of the lovers paying a high price for violating society's norms.

But Annie Proulx has taken that genre and stood it on its head.  Jack didn't die for societal reasons.  Jack died so that Ennis would find the shirts and come to realize that not only had he loved Jack, but Jack had loved him in return.

People don't leave this movie secure in the knowledge that this is the way things should be.  People leave the movie asking "Why did this have to happen?"

Annie has used the forbidden love formula to move us into the romance genre.

If Jack had not died, we would not be on this thread. If Jack had not died, we would not have been moved by this film/SS. If Jack had not died, we simply would not have given a damned because none, NONE of it would have bitten as deeply into our souls the way these masterpieces have done, as written and as filmed. .

[Clyde-B]

If Jack had not died, we would not be on this thread. If Jack had not died, we would not have been moved by this film/SS. If Jack had not died, we simply would not have given a damned because none, NONE of it would have bitten as deeply into our souls the way these masterpieces have done, as written and as filmed. .

Exactly!

The way to get people to really start rethinking their prejudices is to show them the full ugliness of the consequences.  And that means tragedy.

It took a real massacre in Selma Alabama for the voting rights act to get passed.  Hopefully we won't have to go that far.

I hope this story has opened the door for stories that end they way most of us wish this one could have ended.

It's been very difficult to have gone all my life never having seen a mainstream hero that was someone like me, or read a really well written book about two people like me who fell in love and carved out a happy life for themselves.

I would like to see that before I die.

[Artiste]

So, you want a 2nd BM movie??

Hugs!!

[Clyde-B]

So, you want a 2nd BM movie??

Hugs!!

It wouldn't be a second BM movie exactly.

BBM reads like the backstory for a typical Western hero.   The main character has screwed up royally and lost just about everything.

I'd like to see a continuation of Ennis's story, and have him become the first gay hero. 

As a gay kid, I grew up on borrowed heroes.  Like everybody else, gay kids need heroes of their own.

I'd rather have him become a hero than worry about him being just a finger pull away from becoming another notch in the Wyoming suicide statistics.

[Artiste]

Thanks  Clyde-B!

You suggestions are great!!

Other BM movies could be so as you suggest, plus many others to continue somehow.

I find the actual one too hard for gay men such as I.

Do you?

Hugs!!

[brokebackjack]

Hi Artiste!

Nope! I STILL do not want Brokeback 2

lol

[Artiste]

There is no doubt in my mind that there NEEDS TO BE  a second BM!

This first one is mainly for STRAIGHTS!

We need a second one for a GAY man such as myself!

Any comments?

Hugs!

[brokebackjack]

Mainly for straights??

I do not understand that at all. If it wasn't for gays---AND guys like me--why are you still so obsessed mon ami!!!

It was not just for straights, unless a 'gay' [or bi] film is supposed to have tons of sex and be about interiour decorators.

Brokeback threw the stereotypes out the window.

 

[Artiste]

Thanks brokenbackjack!

I do think strongly that BM was done ONLY for straights, as a movie, that is!

I felt that and still do; one of the reasons that I dislike the movie, a bit! It is anti-gay in many ways... as the director made it!

There are some or one articles about that.... you know?

Hugs!

[brokebackjack]

Hi artiste!

In this we must agree to disagree, I have never met anyone who thought it was antigay, never. I HAVE met a traditional 'flamer' who felt their status as iconic cowboys was insulting to him. He felt you could only be gay if you acted like a woman.

I do not agree with that at all.

[Artiste]

Thanks!!

I do feel that if Jack had not died, I would gladly see the film much more often, as it scares me and hurts me too much as it is now!!

Plus, I do feel that this film is now for mainly straights!! It is maybe or maybe not a gay story... yet!

That are two more reasons for added BM stories... other film about it or similar films are needed. Hopefully, the next one or ones will be positive and pro-gay without such a violent end... as in BM!!
The violence is too strong and too much continued in this BM!!

Find out what Tremblay is hiding about the end of BM if the director would have added a part not included in this one? We must find that?

Hugs!!

[brokebackjack]

Oh that's easy artiste.

Jack kissed Randall.

The mechanics at the garage saw it, lured him into a field and tire ironed him to death.

It would have changed the very essence of the short story AND the audience's view of Jack twist.

So I am glad they left it out.

[Artiste]

Thanks brokebackjack!

Even if that (as you say) had been added to the present BM film, that would have not changed the ending, it seems to me! We know that Jack was killed by anti-gays! So why do you say would have changed?

I still insist that a 2nd BM should be done! Are you sure that was what Tremblay meant about: Jack kissing Randall??

Hugs!

[brokebackjack]

Artiste that would have changed EVERYTHING.

And it is by no means certain jack was killed by tire iron. Even in nthe book that is never established. It was intentionally left that way by the author: murder or accident? YOU decide. We all decide

[Artiste]

Thanks brokenbackjack!

I can NOT see how that would have changed anything!

Nor ONE thing?

Please describe... details needed!!

Hugs!!

[KristinDaBomb]

I would never want a second movie. The movie is beautiful on it's own. It could never work as a sequel or trilogy or anything. It's perfect on it's own.

[Artiste]

Thanks KristinDaBomb!

I do NOT figure that the Brokeback Mountain is good on its own, as it is NOT at all that good!!

It is mainly violent towards gay men!!

You do not notice that?

Hugs!

[Artiste]

There are many reasons for an BM II, it seems to me.

You have one?

Au revoir,
hugs!

[myprivatejack]

There are many reasons for an BM II, it seems to me.

You have one?

Au revoir,
hugs!

Although we had many reasons for a second part-that had been very discussed up to now-you forget the main one ,not in favour,but against: Heath Ledger is dead IN REAL LIFE.And I guess there's a lot of Brokies,Heathens and Gyllenhalics who don't imagine BBM with any other actor than him.

[souxi]

There are many reasons for an BM II, it seems to me.

You have one?

Au revoir,
hugs!

Artiste please dont start all that again about BBM2. There CAN,T be one, Heath is dead, end of story, now can you just leave it please? 

[mvansand76]

Artiste,

I think you have made it clear that you want a BBM2 movie, however, I think other people on this forum have also made it clear that they find the idea of BBM2 something they can't imagine happening and don't even want to happen. Now that Heath has died, this opinion has become even stronger, and a lot of people can't imagine there ever being a second BBM movie without Heath in it. Heath can't be in BBM 2 because he's dead. It's a hard truth that people are rather not confronted with again and again, as the hurt is still too fresh.

Maybe we can end this discussion now?

Thank you! Mel

[Artiste]

Thanks Mel,

Why do you feel hurt?

May I ask why not feel joy  ??

There those who feel joy at a wake!! There are those who feel sad!

Of course, we all feel both I guess?? !!

Don't you think that Heath did what he did to make persons happier and, therefore, peaceful ??

Did you read all my posts on this?

Keep care Mel !!

Hugs!!

[Artiste]

Pray that you are having a sunny, joyful day to-day Sonny!

Au revoir,
hugs!  As I think that Heath would have wanted, since he loved NATURE, here are flowers!!

[Artiste]

Even to-day, I desire a BM  II !!

[Artiste]

And create such film where the gay identity doesn't fit?

Or you prefer when the gay indentity does fit?

[Artiste]

In order to create some more HAPPY scenes??

[Artiste]

I think more fun, could be in BM II !!