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Re: Like I, you want a Brokeback Mountain II, yes a second film??
« Reply #50 on: June 08, 2007, 03:18:23 am »
In a way yes and in a way no.

The forbidden love genre has one or both of the lovers paying a high price for violating society's norms.

But Annie Proulx has taken that genre and stood it on its head.  Jack didn't die for societal reasons.  Jack died so that Ennis would find the shirts and come to realize that not only had he loved Jack, but Jack had loved him in return.

People don't leave this movie secure in the knowledge that this is the way things should be.  People leave the movie asking "Why did this have to happen?"

Annie has used the forbidden love formula to move us into the romance genre.




If Jack had not died, we would not be on this thread. If Jack had not died, we would not have been moved by this film/SS. If Jack had not died, we simply would not have given a damned because none, NONE of it would have bitten as deeply into our souls the way these masterpieces have done, as written and as filmed. .
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Re: Like I, you want a Brokeback Mountain II, yes a second film??
« Reply #51 on: June 08, 2007, 08:34:13 am »
If Jack had not died, we would not be on this thread. If Jack had not died, we would not have been moved by this film/SS. If Jack had not died, we simply would not have given a damned because none, NONE of it would have bitten as deeply into our souls the way these masterpieces have done, as written and as filmed. .

Exactly!

The way to get people to really start rethinking their prejudices is to show them the full ugliness of the consequences.  And that means tragedy.

It took a real massacre in Selma Alabama for the voting rights act to get passed.  Hopefully we won't have to go that far.

I hope this story has opened the door for stories that end they way most of us wish this one could have ended.

It's been very difficult to have gone all my life never having seen a mainstream hero that was someone like me, or read a really well written book about two people like me who fell in love and carved out a happy life for themselves.

I would like to see that before I die.

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Re: Like I, you want a Brokeback Mountain II, yes a second film??
« Reply #52 on: October 04, 2007, 06:08:49 pm »
So, you want a 2nd BM movie??

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Re: Like I, you want a Brokeback Mountain II, yes a second film??
« Reply #53 on: October 05, 2007, 11:29:22 am »
So, you want a 2nd BM movie??

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It wouldn't be a second BM movie exactly.

BBM reads like the backstory for a typical Western hero.   The main character has screwed up royally and lost just about everything.

I'd like to see a continuation of Ennis's story, and have him become the first gay hero. 

As a gay kid, I grew up on borrowed heroes.  Like everybody else, gay kids need heroes of their own.

I'd rather have him become a hero than worry about him being just a finger pull away from becoming another notch in the Wyoming suicide statistics.

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Re: Like I, you want a Brokeback Mountain II, yes a second film??
« Reply #54 on: October 06, 2007, 12:03:32 pm »
Thanks  Clyde-B!

You suggestions are great!!

Other BM movies could be so as you suggest, plus many others to continue somehow.

I find the actual one too hard for gay men such as I.

Do you?

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Re: Like I, you want a Brokeback Mountain II, yes a second film??
« Reply #55 on: October 08, 2007, 07:34:30 am »
Hi Artiste!

Nope! I STILL do not want Brokeback 2

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Re: Like I, you want a Brokeback Mountain II, yes a second film??
« Reply #56 on: October 08, 2007, 10:03:15 am »
There is no doubt in my mind that there NEEDS TO BE  a second BM!

This first one is mainly for STRAIGHTS!

We need a second one for a GAY man such as myself!

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Re: Like I, you want a Brokeback Mountain II, yes a second film??
« Reply #57 on: October 09, 2007, 05:50:53 am »
Mainly for straights??

I do not understand that at all. If it wasn't for gays---AND guys like me--why are you still so obsessed mon ami!!!

It was not just for straights, unless a 'gay' [or bi] film is supposed to have tons of sex and be about interiour decorators.

Brokeback threw the stereotypes out the window.

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Re: Like I, you want a Brokeback Mountain II, yes a second film??
« Reply #58 on: October 09, 2007, 09:48:36 am »
Thanks brokenbackjack!

I do think strongly that BM was done ONLY for straights, as a movie, that is!

I felt that and still do; one of the reasons that I dislike the movie, a bit! It is anti-gay in many ways... as the director made it!

There are some or one articles about that.... you know?

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Re: Like I, you want a Brokeback Mountain II, yes a second film??
« Reply #59 on: October 09, 2007, 07:56:41 pm »
Hi artiste!

In this we must agree to disagree, I have never met anyone who thought it was antigay, never. I HAVE met a traditional 'flamer' who felt their status as iconic cowboys was insulting to him. He felt you could only be gay if you acted like a woman.

I do not agree with that at all.
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