Author Topic: Jack's truck?? (Read 17541 times)

Artiste · « **on:** March 24, 2007, 04:27:58 pm »

I do not know if this is a puzzle to you, nor has it been proven yet??

Jack's truck?? About Jack driving in the movie, at the beggining with that truck,
was it his? Did he own it? Or was that his father's? Or the family truck?

Did he purchase it?

Was this the same truck he came there to Acquire during the first Summer??

This is starting to be a puzzle for me. Maybe for you too??

Other questions, I will add later.

Awaiting your news,

hugs!!

Front-Ranger · « **Reply #1 on:** March 25, 2007, 01:00:28 pm »

I think that Jack bought that truck with his rodeo earnings and/or his pay from the previous summer at Brokeback Mountain.

Artiste · « **Reply #2 on:** March 25, 2007, 02:00:00 pm »

Thanks Front-Ranger!!

Any proof(s) from the story by Annie that Jack got that truck from his first Summer's pay
working alone up on Brokeback Mountain with the sheep??

Any proof from the movie??

May I ask... as this could be important too. At least to me... it is. Maybe, it for you too??

Awaiting your news,

hugs!!

Front-Ranger · « **Reply #3 on:** March 25, 2007, 07:29:36 pm »

No, I have no proof for this, it's just a supposition.

Artiste · « **Reply #4 on:** March 25, 2007, 09:08:14 pm »

Thanks Front-Ranger!!

If you ever find out, about that, please tell me.

And if you were in the back of that truck, tell me too.... ah?? Wow, wow!!

I have an old truck. Maybe you do too??

That first truck of Jack, I wonder still about it, as I find that important!! ??

For being enriched by Annie's story, the movie, and your news,

hugs!!

Front-Ranger · « **Reply #5 on:** March 25, 2007, 11:05:26 pm »

I don't know anything about Jack's truck but...I am personally acquainted with Ennis's truck!!

So, if you are ever interested in knowing anything about it, ask me!!

Artiste · « **Reply #6 on:** March 26, 2007, 12:13:21 am »

Thanks Front-Ranger!!

Which Ennis's trucks?? One of Ennis's trucks in the movie??

What do you mean??

You are Ennis?

Hugs!!

Front-Ranger · « **Reply #7 on:** March 26, 2007, 12:37:52 am »

Here is Ennis's truck from the movie along with some of the people who are planning the Brokeback BBQ in Colorado, when we were at a planning meeting at my house:

Artiste · « **Reply #8 on:** March 26, 2007, 09:41:06 am »

Thanks Front-Ranger!!

Wow, wow!! That is a stud's truck!! Had one!!

Detail the names (if possible, if each wants me to learn that) of the persons in the photo... please!! Their penname also on this site??

What a great surprise, you present me!! So who owns this truck, you?

Hugs!!

Front-Ranger · « **Reply #9 on:** March 26, 2007, 09:50:11 am »

Okay, the names of the people, from left to right, are LauraGigs, brokebackjack, Front-Ranger (top), LoveEmBoys, EDelMar, and johnbeene. They are all members of BetterMost. The owner of the truck is EDelMar (and he is also wearing Ennis's coat from the movie).

If you have the DVD from the movie, you can see this truck beginning with the scene where Alma and Ennis are at the drive-in theater.

Artiste · « **Reply #10 on:** March 26, 2007, 10:33:28 am »

Thanks Front-Ranger!

So Front-Ranger is the person in the red coat in the back of the truck??

EDelMar was working in the movie??

Hugs!!

jpwagoneer1964 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 26, 2007, 11:22:37 am »

Sorry but the truck at the drive inn was a 1955 -57 GMC, Ennis's first truck, the same one when he returns home to find Jack's postcard.

Mark

Front-Ranger · « **Reply #12 on:** March 26, 2007, 11:41:17 am »

I stand corrected! Mark, does that two-tone truck appear before the post-divorce scene, then?

jpwagoneer1964 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 26, 2007, 11:52:50 am »

I believe the first scene it is shown is the 2nd camping trip we see "Your late...." when Ennis pulls up with the horses in the bed. According to the screenplay this is 1969 and Jack's blue Ford is a 1977. This truck of Ennis's is the same make and model, and if I could see the grille, maybe year of Jack's red truck.

This two tone combo of Ennis's truck was quite popular and there are two different 1966 Ford F100 I see regularly in my area with these colors.

Mark

Front-Ranger · « **Reply #14 on:** March 26, 2007, 01:06:41 pm »

Thanks! It's nice to have the word from the authority!!

And yes, Artiste, that is me in the red jacket.

Artiste · « **Reply #15 on:** March 26, 2007, 01:35:12 pm »

Thanks Front-Ranger!!

May I re-ask:
EDelMar was working in the movie??

With this truck?

hugs!!

jpwagoneer1964 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 10, 2007, 11:14:11 am »

Just notice some interesting about the trucks. In the scene where Ennis stops at the bar after Thanksgiving, parked on the oppisite side of the street is a truck very similar to Ennis. It actually a Mercury truck sold in Canada, nearly identical to Fords.

Mark

Artiste · « **Reply #17 on:** April 10, 2007, 03:52:11 pm »

Thanks jpwagoneer1964

You mean that the truck opposite side of the street was ONLY made and/or sold in CANADA??

Hugs!!

jpwagoneer1964 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 10, 2007, 04:13:45 pm »

Hi
Yes it was only sold in Canada, but would not be an unusual sight in Wyoming of any of the northern states and as all Mercurys made by Ford.

Artiste · « **Reply #19 on:** April 10, 2007, 04:19:19 pm »

Was it made in the USA and/or only in Canada??

I am guessin that it was made only in the USA??

Hugs!!

Artiste · « **Reply #20 on:** April 15, 2007, 07:19:27 pm »

How many trucks did Jack have?

loneleeb3 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 16, 2007, 10:11:00 am »

EDelMar is my new hero!
How cool wouldit be to own those two peieces of that movie?
Wow that is awesome! Thanks for sharing that pic.

moremojo · « **Reply #22 on:** April 16, 2007, 11:50:19 am »

Quote from: Artiste on April 10, 2007, 04:19:19 pm

Was it made in the USA and/or only in Canada??

I am guessin that it was made only in the USA??

Hugs!!

Hi, Artiste--

The film was shot almost entirely on location in Alberta, Canada (I say 'almost entirely' because I read on IMDb last year that the two tent scenes were filmed on a soundstage, apparently also in Canada). The story's setting is, of course, in the U.S. (Wyoming and Texas) and Mexico, but none of the film was actually shot in any of these locations.

Artiste · « **Reply #23 on:** April 16, 2007, 04:17:36 pm »

Thanks moremojo!

The tent scenes were made on soundstage??

Which soundstage?

And, do you know how many trucks were used in the movie??
Hugs!

moremojo · « **Reply #24 on:** April 16, 2007, 05:24:33 pm »

Quote from: Artiste on April 16, 2007, 04:17:36 pm

Which soundstage?

That might be the million-dollar question. I remember somebody (I think it was CaseyCornelius, also a member of BetterMost, and who happens to live in Alberta) on a thread on the movie's message board on IMDb stating that both tent scene 1 and 2 were filmed on a soundstage. There was no elaboration on that, but I think it most probable that the soundstage would have been located in Alberta, quite possibly Calgary.

But almost every other scene was shot on location, again in some Alberta location or another. Are you aware of the 'Finding Brokeback' website? It has detailed information on virtually all the sites used for the filming; it's really a lot of fun to peruse. Here's the link:

http://www.findingbrokeback.com/

welliwont · « **Reply #25 on:** April 16, 2007, 05:38:26 pm »

Quote from: moremojo on April 16, 2007, 05:24:33 pm

That might be the million-dollar question. I remember somebody (I think it was CaseyCornelius, also a member of BetterMost, and who happens to live in Alberta) on a thread on the movie's message board on IMDb stating that both tent scene 1 and 2 were filmed on a soundstage. There was no elaboration on that, but I think it most probable that the soundstage would have been located in Alberta, quite possibly Calgary.

But almost every other scene was shot on location, again in some Alberta location or another. Are you aware of the 'Finding Brokeback' website? It has detailed information on virtually all the sites used for the filming; it's really a lot of fun to peruse. Here's the link:

http://www.findingbrokeback.com/

Well that is really weird.... Here is something I only noticed on my 30+ viewing of the movie, and it has been quite a while since I did notice it,

*dredging months-old memory from deep in my cranium*

In one of the Tent Scenes, I think -- yes, definitely SNIT, when Ennis gets up to go into tent, the campfire light is shining into tent, and it should be showing the back wall of the tent but it is not. It shows trees and woods. The back tent wall is missing, as in not there. (obviously because the camera(s) subsequently film(s) from that vantage point).

Before reading this comment I never would have thought the tent scenes were filmed anywhere else but at the actual location.

Now I don't know what to think.

moremojo · « **Reply #26 on:** April 16, 2007, 05:43:20 pm »

Quote from: welliwont on April 16, 2007, 05:38:26 pm

Now I don't know what to think.

We need CaseyCornelius back here to enlighten us on these kinds of production details. Casey, where are you?

Artiste · « **Reply #27 on:** April 16, 2007, 06:24:56 pm »

Thanks all!

I am more puzzled about those two or three tent scenes too... for two reasons!

1. It seems to me that I have seen a clip about a tent sex or kissing scene, outside made I think it was,
as Lee, the director, looks into a camera-done-scene and seeing it not that well done, he asks Heath and Jack
to continue, to try again!!

2. Plus, if you see the Montreal co. which added parts to images, stills, the tent scene (one at least) was likely
on a stage (an soundstage as you say moremojo) for the one with the storm (ice)... but even there I am puzzled as that ice storming was likely real when I hear Lee!! ??

Puzzles can be solved??

Hugs!!

jpwagoneer1964 · « **Reply #28 on:** April 16, 2007, 11:46:27 pm »

Quote from: Artiste on April 15, 2007, 07:19:27 pm

How many trucks did Jack have?

They show four in the movie, 1980 GMC, 1965-6 red Ford, 1977 blue Ford, 1978-90 GMC/Chev dually, but we can assume he had some in between.

Artiste · « **Reply #29 on:** April 17, 2007, 09:26:09 am »

Thanks jpwagoneer1964!

I like your details!!
There were at least four trucks in the movie!! ?? Those were that Ennis and/or Jack used in the movie??

Hugs!!

jpwagoneer1964 · « **Reply #30 on:** April 17, 2007, 09:36:20 am »

Ennis had two, 1955-57 GMC and the 1966 Ford.

Artiste · « **Reply #31 on:** April 17, 2007, 09:45:26 am »

Thanks jpwagoneer1964 !

Where are those trucks that Ennis had in the movie ??
Are they all sold now??

Did the studio: the film co. purchase them or loan them from different persons??

Hugs!

jpwagoneer1964 · « **Reply #32 on:** April 17, 2007, 09:52:22 am »

EDelMar has trhe 1966 Ford. There are two simillar 1966 Ford trucks ( same colors ) near where I live.

Artiste · « **Reply #33 on:** April 17, 2007, 09:55:54 am »

Thanks jpwagoneer1964 !

How did EDelMar get that truck?

Where are the two other Ennis's trucks??
1955-57 GMC's?? Any way to find out?

Hugs!

jpwagoneer1964 · « **Reply #34 on:** April 17, 2007, 10:20:06 am »

Ennis had only two the GMC and the Ford. Jacks 19+50 Gmc And Ennis's Ford were auctioned.

loneleeb3 · « **Reply #35 on:** April 17, 2007, 10:22:32 am »

I would love to own a part of that movie.

Artiste · « **Reply #36 on:** April 17, 2007, 10:35:43 am »

Thanks jpwagoneer1964, and loneleeb3 !!

So if two were sold, where are the other trucks??

Hugs!!

jpwagoneer1964 · « **Reply #37 on:** April 17, 2007, 10:38:03 am »

jpwagoneer1964 · « **Reply #38 on:** April 29, 2007, 12:57:39 pm »

Quote from: Artiste on April 10, 2007, 04:19:19 pm

Was it made in the USA and/or only in Canada??

I am guessin that it was made only in the USA??

Hugs!!

Ford has several plants in the US and Canada and there is a no tariff agreement for vehicles. In fact many cars sold in the US as American cans are actually assembled in Canada. the Mercury trucks would have been built where ever the Ford pickups were.

Mark

Front-Ranger · « **Reply #39 on:** April 29, 2007, 01:14:02 pm »

Quote from: jpwagoneer1964 on April 17, 2007, 09:52:22 am

EDelMar has trhe 1966 Ford. There are two simillar 1966 Ford trucks ( same colors ) near where I live.

He's got the truck, but I've got the picture!!

Artiste · « **Reply #40 on:** April 29, 2007, 01:21:11 pm »

Thanks Front-Ranger!

Been missing you! And EDlmar!!

How did he get that truck?

Hugs, hugs to you both!!

Front-Ranger · « **Reply #41 on:** April 29, 2007, 05:37:50 pm »

We've been here! Even when we're climbing mountains or braving the wild North of Saskatchewan, we've been here!

I don't know the details, but my understanding is that EDelMar bought that truck from the props master for the movie.

loneleeb3 · « **Reply #42 on:** April 29, 2007, 07:08:44 pm »

Quote from: Front-Ranger on April 29, 2007, 01:14:02 pm

He's got the truck, but I've got the picture!!

Nothin finer than a cowboy and his truck!

Front-Ranger · « **Reply #43 on:** April 30, 2007, 12:24:36 pm »

Quote from: loneleeb3 on April 29, 2007, 07:08:44 pm

Nothin finer than a cowboy and his truck!

I'll see you on that, and raise you a license plate with "Ennis" on it!!

loneleeb3 · « **Reply #44 on:** April 30, 2007, 12:31:22 pm »

Quote from: Front-Ranger on April 30, 2007, 12:24:36 pm

I'll see you on that, and raise you a license plate with "Ennis" on it!!

Ain't it the truth!

Casey Cornelius · « **Reply #45 on:** April 30, 2007, 11:19:23 pm »

Reply to moremojo from April 16 who posted the following comment seeking info about the possibility that the First Night in the Tent was filmed on a sound stage in Calgary:
'We need CaseyCornelius back here to enlighten us on these kinds of production details. Casey, where are you?'

Sorry, moremojo, I've been missing in actiion for a while, but have to answer your query.

Working for Calgary Opera I'm in contact all the time with stage and film production artists who worked on Brokeback - including, if I may be permitted to drop a few names, Val Planche/the Waitress [who had her part cut out of the film, but is still credited because Ang Lee felt bad about having to excise it]; Duvall Lang/the Rodeo Announcer; and David Trimble/the Basque [who just played Lillas Pastia in the Calgary Opera production of Carmen].

More to your question, and I cannot believe the serendipity of coming upon your post - the Stage Manager for Calgary Opera is married to Chris Sprague, one of the two credited Gaffers on Brokeback. We were shooting the breeze a few days ago, talking about her own film work and her husband's, and she ended up saying how great he had found it to work on Brokeback, a special satisfaction of his being that he had lit the First Night in the Tent scene on the Calgary sound stage.

So there you have it.

Casey Cornelius

Meryl · « **Reply #46 on:** April 30, 2007, 11:44:22 pm »

Quote from: Casey Cornelius on April 30, 2007, 11:19:23 pm

Reply to moremojo from April 16 who posted the following comment seeking info about the possibility that the First Night in the Tent was filmed on a sound stage in Calgary:
'We need CaseyCornelius back here to enlighten us on these kinds of production details. Casey, where are you?'

Sorry, moremojo, I've been missing in actiion for a while, but have to answer your query.

Working for Calgary Opera I'm in contact all the time with stage and film production artists who worked on Brokeback - including, if I may be permitted to drop a few names, Val Planche/the Waitress [who had her part cut out of the film, but is still credited because Ang Lee felt bad about having to excise it]; Duvall Lang/the Rodeo Announcer; and David Trimble/the Basque [who just played Lilas Pastia in the Calgary Opera production of Carmen].

More to your question, and I cannot believe the serendipity of coming upon your post - the Stage Manager for Calgary Opera is married to Chris Sprague, one of the two credited Gaffers on Brokeback. We were shooting the breeze a few days ago, talking about her own film work and her husbands, and she ended up saying how great he had found it to work on Brokeback, a special satisfaction being that he had lit the First Night in the Tent scene on the Calgary sound stage.

So there you have it.

Casey Cornelius

Hey, Casey, that's really interesting about the connection between Brokeback and the opera. I love that David Trimble was Lillas Pastia!

It is serendipitous that you came by tonight, since I was about to PM you about the Alberta Pilgrimage this July. I hope you'll be in town when we all descend on Brokeback Country, because we all want to meet you, and I especially would like to trade opera stories with you. Did you notice the child board for the Alberta trip? Here's the link: http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/board,52.0.html. I'll drop you a PM soon.

Casey Cornelius · « **Reply #47 on:** May 01, 2007, 12:09:24 am »

Hey, Meryl !

I'm definitely around during the summer and had thought about at the very least dropping by the Ranchman's Friday night dinner and maybe hooking up with the other pilgrims at the Full Moon gathering. A guilty pleasure of mine is visiting all of the other sights you're planning to attend in my normal trips around the city and into the mountains and around Alberta., so I probably will not join those tours earlier in the week.
Can't keep from being aware of the various locations as I run errands around town.
It's unfortunate that several of them have been demolished or are soon to be under the wreckers ball as the findingbrokeback.com site indicates - those already demolished include the "Honey/Blue Parka searching" interior location, the Newsome Farm Equipment offices and Jack's Thanksgiving House. The King [Eddy] Edward Hotel, location for the Jimbo the Rodeo Clown Bar, is boarded up and the downtown Legion Hall, site of the Childress 1978 La Shawn dance, is set to be demolished shortly for a new office tower.

Was up having dinner in the revolving restaurant at the top of the Calgary Tower a month ago, pointing out the various remaining locations within sight to a colleague from out of town who was a huge fan of the film and could not believe that everything save the 10-second establishing shot of La Mesillas, NM was shot in and around Calgary. I gleefully pointed down to the area where the 'Mexican alley' was shot, visible from our window as we were eating, and his mouth dropped open !

Yes, a little synchronous that David Trimble would have played the Basque and another quasi-Spanish character in Lillas Pastia. Though, to be fair, I've seen him display his versatility in quite a few productions around town, most recently in Shaw's SAINT JOAN for Theatre Calgary. He's one of the busiest actors in town.

Casey

moremojo · « **Reply #48 on:** May 01, 2007, 05:21:34 pm »

Wow, Casey, thanks for that interesting and informative post!

And so glad to see you around these parts again, pardner.

You are really in the thick of all things Brokeback in that big slice of paradise called Alberta! It must feel incredible to be surrounded by the people and places associated with it...and to have even worked with some of those folks no less. I unfortunately will not be making the Alberta trip, and I don't even know how I would handle finding myself in some of those spots...I feel I would be overwhelmed by emotion. Especially Beiseker, the site of Ennis's trailer...I think my heart would hurt so much standing on that holy ground.

That is so interesting that you work for Calgary Opera. I have some interest in opera, though my exposure to the genre has been somewhat limited. I was reading (last year, I think) of a Calgary production of 'Dead Man Walking' that sounded interesting. Were you by any chance involved in that production?

Thanks again for your response, and know that each time you drop in here is a welcome occasion for all the rest of us.

Cheers,
Scott

RossInIllinois · « **Reply #49 on:** May 01, 2007, 08:53:23 pm »

One other "out door" scene was shot on the stage. It is the one in chapter 2 of the DVD where Jack is sitting at night smoking and is looking to Ennis in the far distance at the camp site. That whole scene of the camp in the far distance is phony (CGI) Green Screen effects.

HerrKaiser · « **Reply #50 on:** May 01, 2007, 09:31:08 pm »

that is not a surprise. I always thought that scene looked fake. But, what a great lean forward and stare by Jack!

SFEnnisSF · « **Reply #51 on:** May 01, 2007, 10:01:52 pm »

You can see how they did the special effects for the movie in this video:
http://www.buzzimage.com/en/work/making_of/33

I've always felt this should have been included in the Collector's/Special Edition!

Artiste · « **Reply #52 on:** May 03, 2007, 10:08:44 pm »

Thanks to all!!

Wow, wow, great news!!

Any more??

Hugs!!

Front-Ranger · « **Reply #53 on:** June 03, 2007, 02:48:27 pm »

News flash! Jack's red and white truck was spotted by the roadtrippers in Kaycee, Wyoming, just down the street from the Siesta Motel! Do you suppose he was visiting there? Pictures coming...

Artiste · « **Reply #54 on:** October 04, 2007, 06:09:54 pm »

Pics please.

Hugs!!

Artiste · « **Reply #55 on:** April 03, 2008, 10:50:59 pm »

More news?

brokeplex · « **Reply #56 on:** April 04, 2008, 12:05:01 am »

I saw Jack's truck in Ft Worth and it was painted orange.

Artiste · « **Reply #57 on:** April 04, 2008, 12:09:43 am »

News:

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