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ifyoucantfixit:
I would never cause or take part in an....as you call it. Knock down drag out...I am just saying there are two schools of thought..I appreciate yours. I hope I can expect the same.
I certainly meant no disrespect.....I would just decline my position if it were to lead to
that//
Daniel:
I know you didn't... and I just wanted to clarify all of what I just said before we got any further... There's no need for anyone to apologize for their own views... and if you're feeling rubbed the wrong way by what someone else has said, try to calm down and get to why it feels like you've been rubbed the wrong way. Okay, everything I'm saying is better reserved for argument-ending, which isn't happening here, but its good stuff so I'm just gonna leave it... lol...
So anyway, as long as we're agreeing that we're basically agreeing to disagree and to maintain our own viewpoints and not try to subvert others, let's carry on. :)
ifyoucantfixit:
I hope I did not seem too arguementative. I was only pointing out the fact that myself and
others have not seen the ethos or future as a place we choose to land. We only want to partake
in all the aspects of today and now..Without the disdain or criticisim that we are not worthy of
the ability to philosophize. That is...pardon my view.. of your brothers thoughts. Rude and
disregarding, and misogenistic. I don't and havent found that to be true at all...
injest:
Scott,
If I were to subscribe to it....I would be absolved of all 'sin' or crimes because the 'victims' wanted to be victims. So how can you justify putting anyone in jail?
If I believed that other people that are in worse circumstances than I am in CHOOSE their circumstance then what right have I got to aid them? In fact if I use and abuse them I am being helpful....since it is in fact what they wanted. A step further down the road you lay out....If I abuse WORSE then I am hastening them on their fun journey. So dont' just rape....mutilate! I am doing what she wants.
Your philosophy seems too close to the patriarchal standard we have just pulled ourselves away from.
Daniel:
It is misogynistic; my brother has some strange views about life, but considering the way my father is, its a miracle he's not a gung-ho male-chauvinist **** (insert expletive here). Fortunately, I think he's really trying to do something about them, unlike my father. And I have tried to point out that most of the girls that are his age that he can hang around with have some serious issues besides their "inability to philosophize". It was not much of a surprise to me when my brother informed me that most of the women his age have serious problems with alcohol, self esteem, and relationship addictions. And I hate to say that, because it sounds like I am stereotyping all women ages 21 to 25, but here in the DFW area, with its lack of public transportation resources and disturbing absence of anything really fun or meaningful for young adults.... I fear that a lot of young people have adapted their lives to weekend alcohol binging... err, partying, drug use and casual sex as a way of filling their lives. I am glad that my brother hasn't gotten into too much of that, though, and I think a large part of it might have been my urging of the free and open mind in his later education.
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