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TOTW 15/07: Short story or movie, which one do you prefer?
brokebackjack:
You have to read the book. It is only about 40 pages.
brokebackjack:
Oh--forgit to answer.
Artiste, the people who refused to watch simply do NOT want to change. At all. They arer happy complaining--or so it seems to me, and I have known some of them many years. If true change DID occur, the speed of that change would not matter. The mere fact of change would matter and they do not want to do it.
They would rather bitch about how miserable they are.
Change is not easy...I have had an enormous amount of chaqnge, yet sometimes I STILL bitch about how miserable it is. The thing is, it gets dealt with....while the others don't deal with anything. I am less and less friendly with them.
Artiste:
Thanks brokebackjack, thanks AussieChris, thanks LauraGigs, and thanks to all others.
So I may answer later on the question: Short story or movie, I prefer, may I ask to all of you: if the film was meant to be for pro-gay issues??
Brokenbackjack, you saying that some persons never want to change their lives? Never? Even if they read Annie's book or the BM movie? One brother of mine cut out quickly in front of me, the Ennis and Jack sex scene, while he and I watched the BM movie, but I seem to recall that he left the kissing one in - he is straight and did not know what I had asked of him when I was with him suggesting he rent the BM movie!! Will he change? Did he after seeing that movie... not at first since he bitched for days while I visited him and his family, but I think he did somewhat later... a bit or a start changed?? !! You know that I am a gay man! That brother knows that too of me... but always say sternly otherwise quoting the bible or so for mariage to be only sacred for a woman and man union!! He surprised me one day... you want to know?
Aussie Chris, you do not see any female issues in the BM movie?
LauraGigs, I yearn to read again Annie's story. Must refind it. Glad you mention that!
Hugs, hugs, hugs!!! Happy Gay Holidays and give unwanted or unneed gifts a new home if the giver wants to as you do suggest...since too many persons living on the streets that need our help in wondrous ways!! Good idea??
brokebackjack:
ARTISTE!!!!!
Joyeaux Noel et bonne annee!!!!!
I think some people simply do not WANT to change. I have one person very much in mind when saying that, a gay man whose life is as predictable as a clock. He does not like where he is. He is actually appalled and scared to death at the situation of his life. Yet refuses to acknowledge that change is even needed on any level. It is needed and more then needed. He knows this. Yet he wants no part of change and refuses to so much as mention the possibility of change. The very idea scares him to death.
He cannot deal with change, any change. He MUST, for example, find a new occupation. He refuses to do so. He refuses to even consider it. There is no possibility of his continuing with the same occupation, he will not be hired by any company.
Yet he openly tells us he has no need to change.
He will continue this until he is on the verge of ruin, when it will be too late. We--everyone he knows--has spoken with him about this. He refuses to admit he must change, and the result will be disaster. Astonishingly, EVERY FRIEND HE HAS tells him in detail why and how, yet he will not change because he does not wish to change.
He has no relationship and has never really had one. He gains solace from anonymous sex. He refuses to watch Brokeback Mountain because he knows several people hose lives have changed dramatically BECAUSE of Brokeback.
He mocks the film, without ever having VIEWED THE FILM.
He openly says if we allowed a film to change us we were crazy.
He became angry when we invited him to a small party, and he arrived, to find we were going to view Brokeback: he said he had no need to watch any film which would tell him to change, and left.
Yes, there are some people who will watch their lives collapse rather then change, and he is one of them.
Much love to you, and all happiness in the coming year! I hope to get to Montreal sometime this year and if I/we DO, I must say that there is nothing I would like more then to sit down and hear Artiste's Questions IN PERSON!!!!!
brokeplex:
Maybe your friend is in deep denial about the truth of his life. Sometimes there is little that we can do to help others in denial, whatever facts you present, they tend to discount them and deny them. My hope for your friend is that he will one day begin to see the truth and change his life and become a happier person. But, he has to take that step himself.
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