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TOTW 15/07: Short story or movie, which one do you prefer?

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Aussie Chris:

--- Quote from: Artiste on December 12, 2007, 06:06:35 pm ---But since I sense that the accent of the movie is maybe too much on wives, I think that is one source where gay men might dislike or hate that film (and see it as anti-gay, in a way ) ??

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I think you should answer the questions that you want to Artiste.  Maybe start with this one though: what do you mean by the movie is maybe too much on wives?  I don't think the film spent too much time with the wives.  But even if it did lets not forget that the wives were just as much victims as Jack & Ennis.  I don't understand why you seem to have such a problem with them.  Do you?

And when you finish with this one, here's the next question: why do you think people who hate the film see it as anti-gay (in a way)?

Artiste:
Thanks Aussie Chris!!

It is obious that the movie does accent in many ways the difficulties of being female as well as wives!!

I am very puzzled as to why that is so numerous!! In a way, it does make the film anti-gay, to some persons!! Instead of remaining with the gay theme... if that what is the main aim. But we must not forget that it is  Annie who wrote the story and that she is a woman and a lady; she is obvious (to me) confused about female issues and tries to solve some by her book maybe, but the movie does much more of that?? The movie was created with a script not only done by a male but also by a female!! Gays or bi, do suffer in the movie and in the book; but also females do too, much more by the movie?? I am happy that those issues of freedom for ladies are in the movie too; however, why so much??

These are not only women issues but gay issues too?? Does Annie bring about too the subject of lesbians, and does the movie?? She could have done so... if she had wanted; so could have the movie; both touches but slightly it only, to my view.

The deviant idea that gays and bi men are so portrayed by the movie, is adamant!! Very clear!! Why, because, it is made by straights?? Why??

Many questions and issues remain un-explained to date!!

The BM movie tips towards feminism (luckily  I think) and I wonder why??

Hugs!!

LauraGigs:
Artiste, answer this question:  have you read the short story?

Aussie Chris:

--- Quote from: Artiste on December 13, 2007, 01:47:33 pm ---I am very puzzled as to why that is so numerous!! In a way, it does make the film anti-gay, to some persons!! Instead of remaining with the gay theme... if that what is the main aim. But we must not forget that it is  Annie who wrote the story and that she is a woman and a lady; she is obvious (to me) confused about female issues and tries to solve some by her book maybe, but the movie does much more of that?? The movie was created with a script not only done by a male but also by a female!! Gays or bi, do suffer in the movie and in the book; but also females do too, much more by the movie?? I am happy that those issues of freedom for ladies are in the movie too; however, why so much??

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Artiste, this is very hard to follow, but I don't think you answered my question either: Are you saying you think the film spends too much time on the wives?  If so why?  What's wrong with the amount of time spent on the wives?

And to suggest that AP has "female issues" is argumentative and unfounded, in my opinion.  Why do you say such things?

Artiste:
Thanks LauraGigs, and thanks Aussi Chris!!

LauraGigs, I will answer you firstly since your comment appears first, and I think that I can reply to you.
I read some or all of Annie's book, but which one I do not remember. I certainly want to do so again, not only because of gay, bi or straight issues, she seems to do; I will be reading this time relight if there are female issues too (if I may use that term). Do you think that she does about female issues??
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Aussi Chris: Yes, I do think that the film spends too much time on wives, to use your word; if that is what the script authors wanted, then maybe they do not spend enough time!!

As to answer why, if the film was meant to be for pro-gay issues, then it does not spend enough time, concerning that, not at all to my view, and understanding so far (but that can change as I am trying to evaluate)with myself and with others the movie!!
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I must go as I am late.

Please comment, answer, or pose questions you two and you all, details or not, as you wish, as am awaiting your news,

hugs!! Hugs!!


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