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TOTW 16/07: Did Alma Jr. know Ennis was gay?
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: jstephens9 on November 30, 2007, 11:52:04 pm ---Good point Katie!!! ;)
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:D Yes, good point Katie! Definitely. :D
Although, it could be said that sometimes someone outside of oneself can see the person or situation more clearly than they can see themselves. I think self-awareness is sometimes harder than figuring out someone else.
I think there's little chance that Alma Jr. would have been capable of deducing all the aspects of Ennis's situation. I'm guessing she may have had something like a hunch or some fuzzy ideas about what his situation might be. She certainly wouldn't know the details and... she'd probably have no idea how hard things got for Ennis (and Jack) at times.
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: atz75 on December 01, 2007, 12:08:42 am ---Although, it could be said that sometimes someone outside of oneself can see the person or situation more clearly than they can see themselves. I think self-awareness is sometimes harder than figuring out someone else.
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Yes, it sure is. I have unlimited faith in the ability of human beings for self-deception, intentional or otherwise.
jstephens9:
I don't think there is any way she could have known how hard it was for Jack and Ennis whether or not she suspected or did not suspect her father was gay. I actually still find it hard to imagine that she could have used the term "gay" for Ennis. Can you only imagine if Junior would have said "Daddy I know you are gay and that is ok?" Ennis would have said "I ain't queer." :) I truly believe that the feelings Ennis had for Jack were things that he could have not put into one word such as "gay" or "queer" or whatever. They were feelings that Ennis did not know how to deal with in his mind. They were real feelings that I don't think Ennis could have found a word which would describe it. In fact, it may be that Junior understood him more than he understood himself.
Katie77:
--- Quote from: jstephens9 on December 01, 2007, 01:40:45 am ---I don't think there is any way she could have known how hard it was for Jack and Ennis whether or not she suspected or did not suspect her father was gay. I actually still find it hard to imagine that she could have used the term "gay" for Ennis. Can you only imagine if Junior would have said "Daddy I know you are gay and that is ok?" Ennis would have said "I ain't queer." :) I truly believe that the feelings Ennis had for Jack were things that he could have not put into one word such as "gay" or "queer" or whatever. They were feelings that Ennis did not know how to deal with in his mind. They were real feelings that I don't think Ennis could have found a word which would describe it. In fact, it may be that Junior understood him more than he understood himself.
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I think the word he was looking for was "LOVE"
jstephens9:
Wow Katie you sure do have a way of hitting the nail on the head. Yeah that would be the word ;)
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