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Joe Aguirre: what do you think of this character as portrayed in the movie?
brokeplex:
Thank you for bringing this up! Please do find that speculative info on Lureen's pregnancy. Your thoughts have opened up a whole new avenue for my understanding as to why she chose to marry Jack. The marriage didn't make a lot of sense to me at first glance.
Artiste:
Thanks brokeplex, thanks ineedcrayons, thanks atz75, and thanks all too!!
One thing bugs me, in the movie, about Lureen indeed!! Concerning Jack's wife, maybe others, you, and I, will talk more about that on her thread? Is there one about her?
Coming back to the subject being Aguirre, this charater as portrait in the movie, may I ask if any of you ladies would have married him?? And men, would you too as in a gay marriage; please state if you are straight, gay, bi or other, if you care and can? All: can you possibly add why, like reason(s) pro or con, if not neutral; or any other points!!
Hugs!! May I Aguirres continue to be helpful to gays and to others!!
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: atz75 on January 03, 2008, 09:16:44 pm ---It was an argument based on a really detailed (I mean, really, really, really detailed) analysis of the timeline... I recall it was a topic started back in the old imdb days. I most definitely don't remember all the details either. But, the argument boiled down to the idea that Lureen was in a big rush to get married because she was probably already pregnant when she married Jack.
Sorry for the tangent.... back to Aguirre....
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I think that I may have figured out at least part of this analysis just watching film and the pertinent scenes closely last night.
1) Jack enters the rodeo contest at the Childress Co fair in Aug 1966 - you can see the marquee signs above the announcers both listing the dates of the fair.
2) Jack and Lureen make whoppee that night in her T-bird "...till daddy takes the T-bird awayyyyyyy!"
3) Jack sends a post card to Ennis about coming into Riverton on the 24th, the postmark on the card reads Sept 1967
4) After meeting Alma, Jack tells all that his little boy is 8 months old.
Lets do the math - if little Bobby was conceived in Aug 1966 then he would be normally born around April 1967. But in Sept 1967 Jack says Bobby is 8 months old, if Jack is the father, he couldn't be older than 5 months.
So, Jack isn't the father of Bobby! This explains some of the contempt that L.D. has for Jack and why he had no problem hinting at a cash settlement if Jack would just bug out of Childress. I have also always felt that OMT was not the father of Jack, so there is a symmetry here.
serious crayons:
Hold that thought, brokeplex!
I'd love to discuss this more thoroughly, but that's not the subject of this thread, and I'd prefer to see it in a thread devoted to that subject so that others who aren't interested in Aguirre but are interested in Lureen's pregnancy will know that the conversation exists.
I asked Chriss about making this issue a TOTW. If she prefers not to, I'll just start a different thread on the topic.
brokeplex:
AOK with me.
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