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Joe Aguirre: what do you think of this character as portrayed in the movie?

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Artiste:
Thanks brokplex!

Well said is your comment!!

Why do we not consider maybe Aguirre as bi or gay or something else? Remember the 60's?

May I pose to you and to all that question?

Hugs!! In 2008, may we all continue torespond to concerns of others!! And create gay times!!

brokeplex:
We can only logically consider Aguirre as bi or gay if we have something concrete which leads us to that conclusion. The only facts that I have read which have caused some suspicion is the fact that he watched the boys in their nookies for 10 minutes thru the binoculars.

"They believed themselves to be invisible, not knowing Joe Aguirre had watched them through his 10x42 binoculars for ten minutes one day, waiting until they'd buttoned up their jeans, waiting until Ennis rode back to the sheep, before bringing the message that Jack's people had sent word that his Uncle Harold was in the hospital with pneumonia and expected not to make it."

I can interpret this action on Aguirre's part in many ways, the most logical is that he wanted to see who was going to tend to the sheep. Were the boys going to goof off for most of the morning, if so Aguirre needed to know then, he could possibly replace them with one of his other employees. Fortunately for Jack and Ennis, the nookies lasted only ten minutes, longer and Aguirre might have fired them on the spot.

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: brokeplex on January 03, 2008, 02:50:25 pm ---We can only logically consider Aguirre as bi or gay if we have something concrete which leads us to that conclusion.
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I agree. I don't like speculating about possibilities outside of what the text tells us. That includes Aguirre's sexuality and similar issues.

I did once see a pretty convincing argument that Lureen was pregnant when she met Jack. I rolled my eyes at that possibility for a long time, but this argument was based on actual textual info. I can't remember much of it now, though.

 ??? :-X

Brown Eyes:

--- Quote from: ineedcrayons on January 03, 2008, 07:48:21 pm ---
I did once see a pretty convincing argument that Lureen was pregnant when she met Jack. I rolled my eyes at that possibility for a long time, but this argument was based on actual textual info. I can't remember much of it now, though.

 ??? :-X

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It was an argument based on a really detailed (I mean, really, really, really detailed) analysis of the timeline... I recall it was a topic started back in the old imdb days.  I most definitely don't remember all the details either.  But, the argument boiled down to the idea that Lureen was in a big rush to get married because she was probably already pregnant when she married Jack.


Sorry for the tangent.... back to Aguirre....

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: atz75 on January 03, 2008, 09:16:44 pm ---It was an argument based on a really detailed (I mean, really, really, really detailed) analysis of the timeline... I recall it was a topic started back in the old imdb days.  I most definitely don't remember all the details either.  But, the argument boiled down to the idea that Lureen was in a big rush to get married because she was probably already pregnant when she married Jack.
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That was part of it. I believe there was some blue-eyed/brown-eyed stuff and some other clues from the movie. I think it would be a good TOTW someday, and perhaps I can summon up some more details of the argument by then.

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